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[00:04:52] <DaaT> night
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[00:33:04] <Dr3w> Anyone here on a very fast connection, who can view QuickTime streams?
[00:33:35] <pobe> If I reboot to windows...
[00:33:39] <pobe> I could
[00:34:20] <pobe> And it's not a big deal, I'm not doing anything else right now...
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[01:33:26] <Lebuzzer> Just time enough to sneak in here and give you a quick URL, then have to go...  please everyone try the new stream links at http://www.beosradio.com  all new service!
[01:48:28] <CIA-3> darkwyrm * current/src/kits/interface/Menu.cpp: A small crash fix whilst testing with a stock People app
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[02:27:14] <nathanw> Can someone answer a hardware question for me?
[02:27:33] <nathanw> Namely, can I use DDR > 266 RAM in a DDR 266 slot?
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[02:35:22] <znation> ... i think so?
[02:35:23] <znation> :P
[02:35:33] <znation> ion>	i would assume that it would scale back to the fastest speed the slot can handle
[02:35:36] <znation> not just ... break
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[03:12:36] <CIA-3> axeld * current/src/kernel/core/arch/x86/arch_cpu.c:
[03:12:36] <CIA-3> Changed the way we're resetting the machine: we're now first trying the
[03:12:36] <CIA-3> keyboard controller method, and only if that fails we fall back to what
[03:12:36] <CIA-3> we have before.
[03:12:36] <CIA-3> At least my SiS laptop now properly reboots, and doesn't just halt
[03:12:36] <CIA-3> anymore - doesn't seem to have a negative impact on other machines, but
[03:12:38] <CIA-3> please report any regressions :-)
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[04:22:31] <CIA-3> axeld * current/src/kernel/apps/consoled/consoled.cpp:
[04:22:32] <CIA-3> Fixed the build of the boot floppy and removed all input_server headers
[04:22:32] <CIA-3> when USE_INPUT_SERVER is not defined.
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[04:51:51] <CIA-3> axeld * current/src/kernel/libroot/posix/unistd/directory.c:
[04:51:52] <CIA-3> getcwd() is actually implemented like elsewhere, and not strictly after
[04:51:52] <CIA-3> POSIX demands: if you pass in a NULL pointer, a buffer will now be
[04:51:52] <CIA-3> allocated for you.
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[05:10:18] <NathanW> mmmmmmmm
[05:10:29] * NathanW is now using his very own dual Xeon :)
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[05:15:34] <CIA-3> axeld * current/src/apps/bin/ (Jamfile error.c):
[05:15:34] <CIA-3> New "error" command; unlike the previous, this should work :)
[05:15:34] <CIA-3> Added it to the build.
[05:18:43] <CIA-3> axeld * current/data/etc/termcap: Added standard BeOS termcap file.
[05:20:14] <CIA-3> axeld * current/makehdimage: Added the "error" command and the termcap file to the image.
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[09:10:19] <@JBurton> hi all
[09:10:31] <dipp> hi
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[09:28:07] <CIA-3> jackburton * current/src/kits/interface/Menu.cpp: A couple of small style changes, fixed a problem with some compilers
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[10:00:07] <@JBurton> hi xeD
[10:00:18] <xeD> JBurton ciao!
[10:00:43] <tic> what does ESR mean when it comes to capacitors?
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[10:02:40] <@JBurton> no idea
[10:02:47] <@JBurton> xeD come va ?
[10:02:56] <xeD> JBurton fine! and you?
[10:03:12] <xeD> JBurton what are you doing now? (on haiku/beos)
[10:03:42] <@JBurton> xed nothing, unfortunately :(
[10:03:45] <@JBurton> brb
[10:05:10] <@voidref> Electro Static REsponse?
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[10:08:11] <@JBurton> re
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[10:08:44] <@Korli> hey JBurton AndrewBachmann
[10:09:23] <@JBurton> hey Korli
[10:11:19] <@JBurton> Korli I was thinking about the B_MESSAGE_NOT_UNDERSTOOD problem
[10:11:29] <@JBurton> can I share my thoughts with you ?
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[10:19:50] <@JBurton> Korli ?
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[10:50:25] <@JBurton> I hey BGA
[11:07:13] <@BGA> JBurton!
[11:09:30] <@JBurton> what's up ?
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[11:21:05] <@JBurton> hi mmu_man
[11:29:23] <@Korli> JBurton of course your thoughts are welcome
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[11:38:16] <@JBurton> Korli okay
[11:38:43] <@JBurton> Korli the only places where a B_MESSAGE_NOT_UNDERSTOOD message is send are BHandler::MessageReceived() (and I think this is the culprit)
[11:39:11] <@JBurton> and BLooper::ResolveSpecifier()
[11:39:37] <@JBurton> so I think that adding a message.PrintToStream() to the first will help
[11:39:55] <@JBurton> as I think our BHandler::MessageReceived() implementation isn't complete enough
[11:40:54] <@JBurton> near the end of that function, there is : else
[11:40:54] <@JBurton> {
[11:40:54] <@JBurton> message->SendReply(B_MESSAGE_NOT_UNDERSTOOD);
[11:40:54] <@JBurton> }
[11:41:06] <@JBurton> there I would add a PrintToStream()
[11:41:45] <@JBurton> Korli
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[11:43:59] <@JBurton> makes sense ?
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[12:53:16] <w-ber> http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/feature.asp?CIaFID=1031&p=7
[12:53:24] <w-ber> "Bernd: We have USB 2.0, WiFi, ATI & Radeon chipset and other peripheral support. I recently bought myself a new Notebook and loaded Zeta up off the CD. Worked fine, without the need for additional drivers or a recompile of the kernel."
[12:53:29] <w-ber> interesting
[12:53:33] <w-ber> recompiling the kernel?
[12:54:42] <slaad> He's comparing it to Linux where such things may be required.
[12:54:54] <slaad> To get kernel level drivers and what not.
[12:55:00] <w-ber> most likely
[12:55:01] <trefas> they dont have the source?
[12:55:14] <w-ber> so the rumours tell us
[12:55:19] <slaad> Whee!
[12:55:25] <slaad> Lets have this discussion again!
[12:55:35] <w-ber> for the nth time
[12:55:36] <trefas> no sorry
[12:56:08] <slaad> Oh, common, please? Maybe someone will come up with some new unfounded comment or insult :)
[12:56:27] <trefas> hehe, maybe so
[12:57:37] * kr1stof has many creative ideas for another dozen of unfounded comments :p
[12:58:51] <kr1stof> :-D
[12:59:31] <w-ber> write them on paper and then ritually burn the paper
[13:01:15] <kr1stof> lol
[13:02:04] <w-ber> (no, we don't actively prevent people from asking certain questions =)
[13:02:48] <@mmu_man> Kernel name: kernel_intel built on: <date censored to protect the innocent>
[13:02:49] <@mmu_man> 16 12:02:49 <@mmu_man>	 1 Athlon XP revision 0681 running at 1511MHz (ID: 0x00000000 0x00000000)
[13:02:52] <@mmu_man> :P
[13:03:49] <matricks> <date censored to protect the innocent>
[13:03:50] <matricks> ?? :)
[13:05:47] <slaad> Oh my gawd! He means they're using the Looooonix kernele!!!!1111~
[13:06:06] <trefas> nooo
[13:06:25] <@JBurton> you mean lunix
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[13:06:48] <w-ber> Lunix is a perfectly good OS for Commodore 128
[13:08:45] <matricks> omg.. preemtive multitasking on a c128
[13:09:07] <matricks> 16 12:09:07 <matricks>	1 second timeslices with 0.2 seconds context switch? :)
[13:09:37] <@Korli> JBurton wondering what your suggestion would help to ? (PrintToStream is a bit useless for InputServer, there is no stdout)
[13:09:41] <trefas> seems like a productive enviroment
[13:09:57] <@Korli> maybe serial print the message what code ?
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[13:10:22] <@JBurton> Korli yeah that would help too
[13:10:39] <@JBurton> it's just to see which message it doesn't understand
[13:10:50] <@JBurton> btw media server gets the same message
[13:11:18] <@mmu_man> Korli syslog ? ;p
[13:11:26] <@mmu_man> now you can always restart input_server in a terminal
[13:11:34] <@JBurton> in haiku, mmu_man ? :P
[13:11:43] <@mmu_man> eh :p
[13:11:52] <slaad> Redirect stdout, Korli!
[13:12:09] <@Korli> slaad to where ? :p
[13:12:13] <slaad> File.
[13:12:25] <slaad> ~/slaadistehsmrt.log :)
[13:12:29] <@Korli> i>	i think this is buggy
[13:12:31] <@JBurton> and then, use another shell to... er... :P
[13:14:07] <tic> mmu, why the censored date?
[13:14:43] <@Korli> patched kernel build date ? ;)
[13:14:47] <matricks> tic: perhaps some kid in somalia will die if he shows it
[13:15:41] <tic> .... right
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[13:17:50] <trefas> they are probably tired of the kernel speculations?
[13:18:43] <@JBurton> nah, how could they be ?
[13:19:00] <@JBurton> it has been raised just a hundred millions of times
[13:19:18] <matricks> maybe its from 1942... and it's a CommieNaziJew kernel
[13:19:23] <@JBurton> lol
[13:19:25] <slaad> Everytime a yT kernel date is shown, god kills a kitten!
[13:20:02] <matricks> slaad: woot
[13:20:04] <@Korli> lol
[13:20:05] <matricks> I hate cats
[13:20:18] <matricks> sneaky prude basterds
[13:20:19] <@JBurton> nah, cats are cool
[13:20:19] <slaad> Fine, for you, matricks, god kills a puppy.
[13:20:29] <slaad> Or a attractive young wench. Whatever :P
[13:20:35] <@JBurton> lol
[13:20:36] <matricks> slaad: hate those too.. they just bites me
[13:20:43] <matricks> both wench and puppies
[13:20:45] <@JBurton> matricks girls bite you ?
[13:20:47] <matricks> :)
[13:21:24] <matricks> JBurton: naa.. dogs do however
[13:22:04] <matricks> and cats are just scary.. sneaking around.. brr
[13:22:19] <matricks> then they get a twitch and jump straight at you
[13:23:53] <@JBurton> eheh
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[13:24:47] <matricks> atricks>	a month back.. I just walked by a guy who had a dog.. and the dog just bit me in my leg for no reason
[13:25:27] <matricks> dogs don't like me so I don't like em
[13:25:36] <@JBurton> matricks pets can see evil people, that's why
[13:25:39] <@JBurton> :)
[13:26:31] <matricks> ahhh
[13:26:40] <matricks> damn it
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[13:56:52] <@JBurton> bye all
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[14:23:46] <Lebuzzer> http://lebuzz.blogspot.com  (new news)
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[17:09:45] <Farrod> evening folks
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[17:14:28] <Farrod> can someone help me find some code?
[17:14:58] <matricks> www.sf.net
[17:15:02] <matricks> lots of code there :)
[17:15:18] <Farrod> fantastic!
[17:15:26] <Farrod> it's bound to work now
[17:15:27] <Farrod> :P
[17:15:46] <Farrod> I'm too dumb to make your cvs page work
[17:16:13] <Farrod> I've found the directory I'm after, but I can't see its contents
[17:18:40] <kr1stof> Aren't they moving right now?
[17:19:13] * Farrod shrugs
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[21:39:51] <MikeW> hmm, has postgres 8 been compiled for beos?
[21:40:40] <MikeW> +ql
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[22:56:35] <CIA-3> axeld * current/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/common/console.cpp:
[22:56:35] <CIA-3> Since the mode commands are ignored anyway, we're now also accepting a "?"
[22:56:35] <CIA-3> starting parameter (or better, we silently ignore it) that's used for
[22:56:35] <CIA-3> private DEC modes. Vim uses those for whatever reason.
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[23:37:22] <pobe> will there be any Haiku people at FOSDEM?
[23:37:32] <pobe> (hi, btw)
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[23:38:15] <Hoern> Hi
[23:38:19] <tic> hey Hoern
[23:38:48] * Hoern gets crazy with this General OS error
[23:39:12] <@mmu_man> pobe I wanted to be there this year, but I can't
[23:39:18] <Koki> where is FOSDEM pobe?
[23:39:24] <tic> mmu_man, attending BeGeistert #014?
[23:39:30] <@mmu_man> Koki France
[23:39:35] <@mmu_man> tic probably yeah
[23:39:38] <tic> mmu_man, woo!
[23:39:41] <Koki> ah, no chance then. :-)
[23:39:44] <pobe> brussels
[23:39:53] <tic> mmu_man, 'cause this year I'm almost certain I'm attending.. and m_eiman too, most probably.
[23:39:55] <@mmu_man> hmm ohyeah it's in belgium this year =)
[23:40:14] <@mmu_man> tic no dying flight company ? :)
[23:40:21] <Koki> either way. :-) Europe is not on my itinerary until 2006. :-)
[23:40:26] <tic> mmu_man, I hope not :) germanwings.com seems stable enough.
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[23:57:27] <slaad> I hear you're paying for me to attend too, tic!
[23:57:40] <tic> slaad, yeah, well... maybe next year! *g*
[23:57:45] <slaad> Woo!
[23:57:53] <tic> if I'm a zillionaire or so
[23:58:24] <tic> and now, I need to sleep.. http://d3proj.mine.nu/bugs correctly set up now.
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[23:59:38] <tic> btw slaad, I got other instructions from the PSU guy; he told me to increase the caps by connecting a 1000uF@16V cap on two of the input caps, and remove the L3 by-pass. Now it works correctly. :)
[23:59:43] <tic> (w/ the ISA sound card)
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