[00:02:18] <desidaerius504> do you know if the crash that occurs when you try to change text color is fixed in this version?
[00:02:51] <fyysik> is this crash available with new document and simple text? if so, i can try
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[00:03:34] <desidaerius504> it will occur at any point you change text color. I've reproduced it in new documents and fromopening old ones and trying it
[00:04:09] <fyysik> :( it is here
[00:04:54] <desidaerius504> eccck
[00:05:10] <desidaerius504> guess I am going to buying Gobe Productive :-p
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[00:05:36] <fyysik> purplus.com had it for funny price
[00:05:47] <desidaerius504> 21.95 I think
[00:05:50] <fyysik> it is worth buying even as demo of great concept
[00:06:11] <desidaerius504> its only a demo?
[00:06:27] <fyysik> at purplus? no, full functional
[00:06:36] <desidaerius504> oh, good
[00:06:42] <desidaerius504> Im not paying for a demo :-p
[00:07:52] <desidaerius504> is anyone still working on the BeOS port of AbiWord?
[00:09:08] <fyysik> no. for long time
[00:09:14] <fyysik> since 1.0
[00:10:04] <desidaerius504> makes me wish I could code
[00:10:13] * fyysik wish gcc 2.953 to be optimized for compilation speed
[00:15:01] <desidaerius504> Is MozillaFirefox-1.1.0-d2.zip for BONE or net_server?
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[00:22:43] * desidaerius504 scratches head
[00:28:12] <desidaerius504> okay, now i figured out how to get Firefox to work :-p
[00:33:48] <fyysik> desidaerius504 - did you get new Firefox bone from bebits? or are u using netserver beOS?
[00:36:13] <desidaerius504> I downloaded it from a link on the BeZilla blog. I apparently downlaoded the right version because I have Firefox running now.I just couldn't figure out *how*
[00:36:24] <desidaerius504> I discovered it through trial and error :-p
[00:37:12] <fyysik> today's bebits version is from latest blog and is best till no
[00:38:14] <desidaerius504> cool. I'd tried BeBits earlier this week but the download links weren't wanting to work so I started looking elsewhere to see if I could find it. Next time I'll go back to BeBits :-)
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[03:52:39] <MikeW> how backwards compatable is agp?
[03:52:47] <MikeW> as in, can I put an 8x agp card in a 2x slot?
[03:53:05] <MikeW> although I think that would be a foolish thing to do
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[03:55:17] <mmadia_> MikeW:  usually it wont work.
[03:59:05] <MikeW> I just bought 2 matrox cards from ebay instead :)
[03:59:13] <MikeW> PCI, opengl supported
[04:05:32] <MikeW> actually, since 2 cards come with the auction, I wonder could I put both of them in and get dual display (even though both are different types of matrox G200 cards)
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[11:59:43] <mmadia_> mornin ablyss
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[12:21:03] <mmadia_> hi illissius
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[12:55:39] <CIA-3> rudolfc * current/src/add-ons/accelerants/nvidia/engine/nv_general.c: added a few ID comments ('sync' to Xorg6.8.2)
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[12:56:36] <Hoern> hi
[12:56:43] <Dr3w> hey.
[12:56:44] <CIA-3> rudolfc * current/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/nvidia/driver.c: added a few ID comments ('sync' to Xorg 6.8.2)
[12:57:22] <Hoern> tqh: FYI - with the static build I again had to build a new profile.
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[13:08:11] <tqh> Hoern From the previous build this week?
[13:08:35] <tqh> Are you using any extentions?
[13:08:52] <Hoern> tqh: yep -- no
[13:09:17] <Hoern> tqh: from MozillaFirefox_1.0+-beos-20050210-BONE-EXPERIMENTAL.zip to MozillaFirefox_1.0+-beos-20050210-BONE-EXPERIMENTAL-STATIC-REORDERED.zip
[13:09:20] <tqh> hmm, funny I have had the same profile very long thru different builds
[13:09:41] <tqh> Well, it should work. Dunno what's going on there.
[13:09:45] <Hoern> tqh: yep strange The only thing I changed were a few settings
[13:10:33] <tqh> yes. hmm
[13:11:10] <Hoern> tqh: if that happens next time gain I try and copy file by file from the old profile to the new one to find out what file causes this
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[13:18:24] <tqh> Hoern ok, I know to little about how the profile is built, so I can't say if we will get anything useful out of it, but it's worth a try.
[13:20:07] <Hoern> tqh: then perhaps it's enough to delete one file that's rebuild automatic and one hasn't to redo all settings
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[13:38:20] <tqh> yes
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[17:22:20] <CIA-3> mwilber * current/src/tests/kits/interface/balert/ (AlertTest.cpp AlertTest.h): Added tests for the B_OFFSET_SPACING mode.
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[17:25:32] <MikeW> MikeW26745: Mike, stop confusing people :)
[17:25:36] <MikeW> use the ghost command
[17:26:19] <MikeW26745> the ghost command? what does that do?
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[17:30:52] <mwilber> Ok, now there should be no confusioni.
[17:34:35] <MikeW> mwilber: /ns ghost mwilber yourpassword will kick out the other nick so you don't have to wait for the connection to time out
[17:34:59] <MikeW> reeeally handy
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[17:38:40] <mwilber> Awesome! Thanks for letting me know.
[17:41:21] <@mmu_man> /quit oldnick
[17:41:23] <@mmu_man> :p
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[17:41:57] <tic> http://www.suitcaseservers.com/gallery.html
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[17:50:01] <Dr_Evil> thats totally stipid tic
[17:51:15] <thies> I bet I can build a smaller one with less annoying lights.
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[17:54:16] <tic> yeah
[17:54:33] <tic> just reminded me of the case I'm going to build. (no lights or windows, however)
[17:54:38] <tic> *DT*
[17:55:11] <sys2> tic, if you could allow users to view the pictures it would be nice
[17:55:28] <sys2> ohh now it works :P
[17:56:24] <tic> uh, it's not my site...
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[18:24:11] <mmadia_> does  http://haiku-os.org/forums/   403 for anyone else?
[18:24:49] <mmadia_> and/or 404 for that matter
[18:25:07] <Dr_Evil> yes
[18:26:08] <dipp> bah...that website is cursed...it must be
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[18:40:00] <@mahlzeit> it>	it worked earlier today
[18:40:25] <mmadia_> yeah.  i posted to it maybe 4 or 5 hours ago.
[18:40:34] <@mmu_man> prolly someone messed up with .htaccess
[18:43:05] <@mahlzeit> heh, the haiku 2004 financial statement was made with stylededit ;-)
[18:43:16] <Methe> lol
[18:43:18] <Methe> where is this doc
[18:43:21] <Methe> I wanna see it
[18:43:31] <mmadia_> news article on the front page
[18:43:41] <@mahlzeit> with the haiku stylededit, even
[18:44:25] <@mmu_man> hmm
[18:44:33] <@mmu_man> anyone has an inheritance tree of the BeAPI ?
[18:45:17] <@mahlzeit> doesn't the bebook have a picture of that?
[18:45:32] <@mahlzeit> the printed one does
[18:45:40] <Methe> mmu_man
[18:45:43] <Methe> BeHappy
[18:45:53] <Methe> can sho u classes by Inheritance tree
[18:45:58] <Methe> it's not a diagram
[18:46:00] <Methe> but it's sthing
[18:46:46] <@mmu_man> yeah I do use BeHappy
[18:46:57] <@mmu_man> wanted a tree like picture
[18:47:15] <tic> mmu_man, what for?
[18:47:20] <@mahlzeit> so most of the donations were used to pay for waltercon...
[18:47:29] <@mahlzeit> that's nice :-)
[18:48:13] <Methe> :)
[18:48:22] <@mmu_man> hmm there are partial diags
[18:48:22] <Methe> sarcasm spotted
[18:48:29] <@mmu_man> in /boot/beos/documentation/Be\ Book/*/art
[18:48:40] <@mahlzeit> yeah the printed book has them by kit
[18:49:08] <@mmu_man> aw
[18:49:11] <@mmu_man> never saw that one /boot/beos/documentation/Be\ Book/The\ Interface\ Kit/art/alpha1.jpg
[18:49:17] <@mmu_man> was searching for that the other day
[18:49:19] <@mahlzeit> but i'm sure i've seen a pdf or picture with the full tree
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[18:50:56] <@mmu_man> let's search beshare
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[18:52:13] <Methe> google image doesnt know a thing
[18:52:52] <@mahlzeit> maybe in the extra beos bible chapters
[18:53:11] <@mahlzeit> or there was that pdf that someone sold a long time ago (a quick api guide)
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[18:56:58] <@mmu_man> is nice but not that
[18:58:12] <@mmu_man> ohh yeah 4_InterfaceKit_DR3.pdf
[18:58:20] <@mmu_man> page 8
[18:58:22] <@mmu_man> but that's quite old
[18:58:25] <@mmu_man> and uncomplete
[18:58:35] <@mmu_man> and wrong
[18:58:40] <@mmu_man> no BObject
[18:58:46] <@mahlzeit> you can use a tool to build the tree from the header files :-)
[18:58:47] <@mmu_man> though it would have been quite useful sometimes
[18:59:01] <@mmu_man> maybe even from haiku wioth doxy
[19:01:35] <@mahlzeit> it>	i don't think doxygen makes a picture of the entire tree
[19:05:12] <@mmu_man> hmm
[19:05:29] <@mmu_man> I think I can make a script that'd make some TeX figs source
[19:05:45] <@mahlzeit> B_NOT_INVENTED_HERE :-)
[19:06:09] <tic> mmu_man, shouldn't be too difficult if you have a class browser.
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[19:06:28] <@mmu_man> oh, well there's XEmacs speedbar
[19:06:33] <@mmu_man> but it's sluggish with the current port
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[19:12:16] <swer> can anyone help me building FireFox from CVS?
[19:13:10] <swer> the build script returns "configure: error: --enable-application=APP is required"
[19:13:20] <swer> what do I fill in for APP in my mozconf?
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[19:13:45] <Procton> what does "./configure --help" give?
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[19:14:46] * swer slaps forehead
[19:14:53] <swer> thanks Procton :)
[19:14:57] <swer> that was too obvious for me
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[19:28:05] <fyysik> seen JBurton
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[19:31:30] <Maxzorin123> hello
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[19:35:06] <@mahlzeit> hi Maxzorin123
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[19:37:58] <DaaT> hi jonaskirilla
[19:38:11] <jonaskirilla> heya, DaaT
[19:38:25] <DaaT> how's it going?
[19:38:39] <jonaskirilla> I'm a little beat
[19:38:48] <DaaT> too much working?
[19:39:15] <jonaskirilla> I stayed up to 07:30 this morning, coding
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[19:39:25] <DaaT> ouch
[19:39:39] <jonaskirilla> bad idea in general :]
[19:39:49] <DaaT> yeah, i have to agree :)
[19:39:58] <DaaT> was it worth it though, in terms of productivity?
[19:40:06] <jonaskirilla> well, I don't know :)
[19:40:10] <jonaskirilla> I got some done
[19:40:11] <DaaT> lol
[19:40:26] <@mahlzeit> usually you'll find out the next day that you only made things worse :-)
[19:40:40] <jonaskirilla> haha, yeah, maybe.
[19:41:01] <DaaT> true true
[19:41:10] <jonaskirilla> first I wrote some C code for queries and reading attributes, which was a pain
[19:41:37] <jonaskirilla> then I decided I didn't like C and rewrote it in the C++ API, which turned out a lot nicer
[19:41:52] <DaaT> nice
[19:41:57] * mmu_man pets C
[19:42:00] <DaaT> too bad about the wasted time writing it in C
[19:42:21] <jonaskirilla> well, I keep the snippets in my toolchest
[19:42:48] * mmu_man sings "Write in C, Write in Ceee, Write in C, oohhhh write in CEeeeee... whisper words of wisdom, write in Ceeeee"
[19:42:58] <DaaT> lol, that sounds like you've been playing some RPG like WoW "i found me some snippets and i keep them in my toolchest, so i can sell them later"
[19:43:04] <jonaskirilla> don't know if there are any cases where you need to avoid the C++ API.. I think Haiku is supposed to allow even more C++ without having a BApplication, etc
[19:43:10] * DaaT slaps and gags mmu_man
[19:43:21] <@mmu_man> tsss
[19:43:39] <jonaskirilla> DaaT: haha, yeah, like scrolls..
[19:43:52] <jonaskirilla> always goog having a few scrolls in your belt
[19:43:56] <jonaskirilla> good
[19:44:03] <jonaskirilla> damn google
[19:44:10] <DaaT> :)
[19:45:50] <jonaskirilla> I'm having problems reading my DVD-Rs.. very strange.. I get 0 kb after a certain point, and they all used to work.
[19:45:58] <DaaT> weird
[19:46:04] <jonaskirilla> I burnt them on the same device.
[19:46:20] <DaaT> just burned my first movie today (downloaded the DVD-R of it) ... *snif snif*... such a special moment :)
[19:46:42] <jonaskirilla> askirilla>	a disc you can play in a real DVD player?
[19:46:53] <jonaskirilla> or just a DVD-R?
[19:47:05] <DaaT> aaT>	a disc you can play anywhere
[19:47:08] <jonaskirilla> cool
[19:47:13] <jonaskirilla> I've never tried that.
[19:47:13] <DaaT> yeah
[19:47:34] <DaaT> you download the 4.7GB image file (img or iso or whatever) and just burn it onto a dvd-r
[19:47:43] <DaaT> like game isos
[19:48:32] <jonaskirilla> nice.. I wonder if CreateDeviceImage can rip that way.. it should
[19:48:43] <DaaT> could be
[19:51:47] <tic> it's basically a front-end to dd
[19:52:28] <DaaT> i see
[19:53:26] <jonaskirilla> would be nice having it in source form, nevertheless
[19:54:04] <DaaT> *nod*
[19:54:10] <jonaskirilla> it's a very convenient tool
[19:54:30] <DaaT> so it seems, yes
[19:54:43] <jonaskirilla> askirilla>	a little BVolumeRoster voodoo goes a long way
[19:55:34] <DaaT> it does? :)
[19:55:46] <@mmu_man> cp can rip it I guess :p
[19:55:50] <@mmu_man> dd even
[19:56:27] <DaaT> :)
[19:56:32] <jonaskirilla> yeah, but you don't get the nice interface with the live updates and zero-typing device names
[19:57:19] <jonaskirilla> mmu_man: hey, I've got a C question!
[19:57:49] <jonaskirilla> I tried this
[19:57:55] <jonaskirilla> if (access(path.Path(), X_OK)) something;
[19:58:23] <jonaskirilla> but it wouldn't work althought the path was clearly executable
[19:58:37] <jonaskirilla> I think it's correct use, but I could be wrong.
[19:59:29] <@mmu_man> probably a bfs bug
[19:59:37] <jonaskirilla> I had to resort to a huge boolean complex of user, group and the individual bits of the permissions
[20:00:00] <@mmu_man> that might explain why the kernel insists on having read perms on executables but not requiring  exec perm
[20:00:08] <jonaskirilla> mmu_man: not a bug in libc?
[20:00:44] <@mmu_man> access() is forwarded to the fs addon
[20:00:57] <jonaskirilla> I see.
[20:01:09] <@mmu_man> not just a stat + bit compare
[20:01:32] <[Beta]> the values on the 2004Statement are US$ ?
[20:02:32] <@mmu_man> guess so
[20:04:55] <jonaskirilla> argh.. someone ought to fix the website css so the links stand out from the rest of the text
[20:05:06] <jonaskirilla> they're quite invisiable as it is
[20:05:29] <[Beta]> arent some bold / some green ?
[20:06:22] <jonaskirilla> not the ones in the article.. in the text paragraphs
[20:07:12] <[Beta]> you dont see ".. information for 2004 here" ?
[20:07:53] <jonaskirilla> oh, it's a problem with my font
[20:08:24] <jonaskirilla> at the fontsize my Mozilla has there is no difference.. I don't see the links a bold
[20:08:40] <jonaskirilla> if I do Alt-+ I see the bold
[20:09:23] <[Beta]> scaling through font sizes I dont see that problem, but i'm not in BeOS atm :)
[20:10:01] <jonaskirilla> I think it's local to BeOS and the default font.. I see it in StyledEdit too sometimes
[20:10:15] <jonaskirilla> bold doesn't happen unless I turn up the size
[20:11:40] <jonaskirilla> bbl
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[20:17:10] <@mmu_man> [revol@patrick ~/devel]$ ./access ./access.c x
[20:17:10] <@mmu_man> 0, No Error
[20:17:16] <@mmu_man> hmm yeah that's odd
[20:17:23] <@mmu_man> though root is supposed to be allowed anything
[20:17:58] <@mmu_man> [I have no name!@patrick ~/devel]$ /boot/home/devel/access /boot/home/devel/access.c x
[20:17:58] <@mmu_man> -1, Permission denied
[20:18:19] <@mmu_man> yeah that's it (uid 1 there)
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[20:28:23] <fyysik> seen Andrew
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[20:34:24] <sys2> http://www.fcw.com/fcw/articles/2005/0207/news-la-02-07-05.asp
[20:34:25] <sys2> yay
[20:34:37] <sys2> MS is loosing town by town and country by country and person by person :>
[20:35:05] <sys2> ofc i guess thats still windows
[20:35:12] <sys2> havnt had time to read it :P
[20:36:30] <DaaT> makes sense, the state has no money
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[20:37:23] <sys2> nice
[20:37:27] <sys2> oops :>
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[20:52:38] <swer> is there a bezilla developer in the room?
[20:53:16] <swer> getting build errors from CVS
[20:54:18] <mmadia_> swer:  i doubt i'll know the answer, but i've compiled it a few times.
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[20:55:19] <swer> i'm getting a linker error, missing symbol "find_directory_r"
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[20:57:53] <mmadia_> ia_>	i *think* that maybe in libzeta.so    .... maybe it needs to be included in one of the makefiles.
[20:58:35] <@mmu_man> yep
[20:58:36] <@mmu_man> hmm
[20:58:47] <swer> OK, I'll give it a try
[20:58:56] <@mmu_man> #define _ZETA_TS_FIND_DIR_
[20:59:05] <@mmu_man> that will zap it
[20:59:27] <@mmu_man> it should be fixed cleanly someday anyway
[21:01:34] <swer> where's the best place for global defines in the mozilla build system?
[21:01:44] <swer> config/rules.mk?
[21:02:02] <@mmu_man> CPPFLAGS='-D_ZETA_TS_FIND_DIR_' ./configure ...
[21:02:06] <@mmu_man> sometimes that works
[21:02:37] <swer> i'd love to have something that works with the usual ./configure build process
[21:02:50] <swer> otherwise I'll have to remember way too many commands I forget two days later :D
[21:03:35] * mmadia_ travels homeward.   later.
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[21:05:52] <tic> mmu_man, what's that do?
[21:05:59] <tic> ah, threadsafe.
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[21:12:29] <@mmu_man> just disables the hack
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[21:15:46] <MikeW> Dr_Evil: didn't you write a driver for the Realtek RTL8139D chipset?
[21:16:16] <Dr_Evil> no I didn't
[21:16:29] <Dr_Evil> I wrote one for the RTL8169 (gigabit)
[21:17:28] <MikeW> ah okay. I seen that the 8139D is supported on beos with a driver, but I don't know if that driver is open source or not
[21:17:39] <MikeW> hmm, doesn't bother me much anyway
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[21:17:56] <Dr_Evil> there is a driver for 8139 in our cvs
[21:17:58] <Dr_Evil> but I don
[21:18:07] <Dr_Evil> don't know it it works relyable
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[21:25:50] <Dr_Evil> MikeW http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/open-beos/current/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/network/rtl8139/
[21:26:01] <Dr_Evil> written by nielx
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[21:29:37] <MikeW> ooh, interesting
[21:31:47] <fyysik> btw, interesting that BeOS driver is also at RealTek corporate site
[21:31:58] <MikeW> they want customers :)
[21:32:09] <MikeW> Well I ordered a ultra cheap card based on it from http://www.dabs.com/uk/ProductView?quicklinx=1Y31
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[21:46:39] <agentmumu> argl, my laptop is completely unsupported by beos
[21:46:42] <agentmumu> no video
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[21:46:46] <agentmumu> no audio
[21:46:50] <agentmumu> no network
[21:46:56] <fyysik> really?
[21:47:01] <agentmumu> yes
[21:47:13] <agentmumu> dell c600
[21:47:29] <agentmumu> maestro3 audio card
[21:47:40] <agentmumu> ati m3 graphics
[21:47:51] <agentmumu> 3com mini pci network card
[21:48:42] <DaaT> sucks
[21:48:50] <DaaT> even the ati gfx? really sucks
[21:49:00] <fyysik> did you try older Ati Mobility driver?
[21:49:36] <frankern> agentmumu: Dell Latitude D600 - Sound, graphics and network do work
[21:49:38] <fyysik> and some 3com are now supported by bcm570 driver, IIRC
[21:49:43] <frankern> I have that machine
[21:50:11] <agentmumu> frankern: c600 or d600
[21:50:32] <agentmumu> fyysik: c600 and d600 are diffent machines
[21:50:33] <frankern> I am running Zeta on it straight out of the box
[21:50:46] <agentmumu> frankern: on a c600?
[21:50:50] <frankern> agentmumu: oh, didn't know
[21:50:53] <frankern> d600
[21:50:56] * fyysik said nothing about c and d and 600
[21:51:01] <agentmumu> yes, d600 works
[21:51:26] <agentmumu> fyysik: oh, right
[21:51:38] <agentmumu> i'll try dano, now
[21:52:02] <agentmumu> maybe it has an updated rage 128 driver
[21:52:16] <fyysik> better try bebits
[21:52:34] <agentmumu> i've already looked there
[21:53:58] <agentmumu> i guess prism54 is still unsupported on beos?
[21:54:10] <fyysik> ik>	i know 3 Rage 128 divers
[21:54:21] <fyysik> drivers
[21:54:46] <agentmumu> on bebits was one patched driver to work with rage 128 pro
[21:54:58] <fyysik> and yet another one
[21:55:00] <frankern> agentmumu: the mini-pci for that model was a prism2 one. that should have work
[21:55:01] <fyysik> for Fury
[21:55:29] <fyysik> prism 2-5 should work with hfa384 driver IIRC
[21:55:49] <agentmumu> frankern: i have a 3com plain vanilla ethernet card in the mini-pci slot
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[21:56:02] <agentmumu> and a prism54 pcmcia card
[21:56:19] <fyysik> just try
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[21:58:13] <frankern> agentmumu: perhaps you can use this for the 3com card: http://www.bebits.com/app/3551
[21:58:43] <frankern> I have been using that driver on one of my earlier dell laptops
[21:58:51] <agentmumu> i'll try taht
[21:58:52] <agentmumu> hat
[21:58:55] <agentmumu> argl
[21:59:01] <agentmumu> damn lags
[22:00:12] <frankern> :-)
[22:05:07] <fyysik> anybody seen Stefano Cecceriny recently?
[22:05:16] <fyysik> Ceccerini rather
[22:06:35] * fyysik is sleepy, and even oz of brandy hardly will help
[22:07:35] <agentmumu> the 3com 920 driver won't work :)
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[22:44:26] <[Beta]> fyysik: he's in here, no ?
[22:48:54] <DaaT> the nick is
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[23:00:16] <fyysik> JBurton is his nick
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[23:54:16] <desidaerius504> has anyone in here experienced any issues with the original email app in BeOS 5.03 Pro timing out when sending/receiving email messages that are bigger than ~1500 bytes
[23:55:31] <NathanW> You're using PPPoE, aren't you?
[23:55:40] <NathanW> And why are you using the original mail app?
[23:56:08] <desidaerius504> cause i havent upgraded yet. I just started exploring BeOS a week ago
[23:56:20] <desidaerius504> and yes PPPoE
[23:56:56] <NathanW> ok
[23:57:16] <NathanW> well, I would suggest downloading MDR from http://www.bebits.com/app/2289
[23:57:29] <NathanW> As to the PPPoE problem
[23:57:55] <NathanW> There is a problem with your ethernet MTU, which I forget how to solve on 5.0.3 systems, at the moment
[23:58:25] <NathanW> Specifically, the ethernet MTU should be 1492 bytes, and is 1500 bytes instead
[23:58:54] <slaad> I think BeTips.net has a tip...
[23:59:06] <NathanW> http://www.bebits.com/app/3424
[23:59:23] <desidaerius504> wait I thought PPPoE was standard PPP for dialup (I am using dial-up)
[23:59:30] <desidaerius504> (sorry)





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