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[06:50:06] <pestil> or anybone? [06:51:27] <mmadia> hi pestil [06:51:33] <pestil> hellou! [06:51:41] <mmadia> hi. [06:51:48] <pestil> I have been meaning to ask a haiku question [06:52:23] <pestil> It's a question that's in the FAQ, but the answer is not complete enough for me. [06:52:58] <mmadia> k. [06:54:08] <pestil> I understand that Tracker is open source. So is Deskbar. And app_server has been finished. And a bunch of stuff is already made. So... What are the big things missing from Haiku? [06:54:18] <pestil> answer not in FAQ [06:54:54] <mmadia> app_server, kernel, networking_kit, are the major chunks that have the longest road to go. [06:55:30] <pestil> oh, I thought app_server was done. Wasn't the networking thing grabbed from BSD? Isn't kernel the NewOS one? [06:55:43] <mmadia> other items that still need work, media kit, input kit, ...... not sure what else. [06:56:17] <mmadia> oh no, app_server still has a ways to go. it has significant progress, jsut nothnig thta can be used as an R5 replacment yet. [06:56:28] <pestil> oh. [06:56:48] <pestil> what is the approximate size of the current team of volunteers? [06:56:59] <mmadia> iirc, the network was taken from BSD, but there's still things that need to be done .. . integrating it into the BeAPI and other components. [06:57:56] <mmadia> there's 1 main person working on the kernel, about 3 main people on the app_server, one of the networking kit devs left eariler this month. [06:58:18] <pestil> left as in, left for vacations, or as in left for good? [06:58:20] <mmadia> there are many others, i just dont know an accurate number. [06:58:50] <pestil> is there a way to donate other than paypal? [06:58:52] <mmadia> for good... he said computerswere taking up too much time of his life. [06:59:10] <mmadia> you can donate through networkforgood.org ( or something like that ) [06:59:22] <pestil> no, wait! they accept credit cards! [06:59:37] <pestil> computers were taking too much time of his life?? [07:00:13] *** m_eiman has joined #haiku [07:00:33] <mmadia> m_eiman about how many active devs would you estimate Haiku has currently? [07:01:02] <pestil> hello m_eiman [07:02:31] *** slaad has joined #haiku [07:06:40] <pestil> echo [07:06:41] *** m_eiman has quit IRC [07:07:11] <mmadia> pestil are you a dev? :) [07:07:26] *** hUMUNGUs has joined #haiku [07:07:59] <pestil> humungus how do you make the first capital letter smallr than the rest [07:09:10] <hUMUNGUs> pestil, ? they are all small here in Vision. [07:09:18] <pestil> ! [07:09:21] <hUMUNGUs> eh.. [07:09:32] <hUMUNGUs> well, sorry.. just woke up [07:09:46] <pestil> well good... morning? [07:10:05] <hUMUNGUs> hehe.. thanks.. its 07:09 AM [07:10:26] <hUMUNGUs> try a /nick pESTIl [07:10:31] <hUMUNGUs> or whatever [07:10:36] <pestil> ok [07:10:56] <pestil> I'll go dig more haiku stuff. are there forums for this? [07:11:24] <mmadia> http://haiku-os.org/forums [07:11:25] <hUMUNGUs> If you run BeOS, try the app BeShare from http://www.bebits.com [07:11:35] <pestil> okay bye [07:11:39] *** pestil has quit IRC [07:11:41] <hUMUNGUs> bye [07:22:59] *** m_eiman has joined #haiku [07:23:05] *** Karina`` has left #haiku [07:24:22] *** Karina`` has joined #haiku [07:33:27] *** mmadia has quit IRC [07:44:09] *** voidref has joined #haiku [07:44:09] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o voidref [07:52:11] *** voidref has quit IRC [07:57:13] *** RageMax has quit IRC [08:45:33] *** khorben has joined #haiku [08:55:31] *** m_eiman has quit IRC [09:32:35] *** |pst| has quit IRC [09:32:36] *** pst2 has quit IRC [09:37:50] *** voidref has joined #haiku [09:37:50] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o voidref [09:40:15] *** dipp has joined #haiku [09:47:08] *** thaflo_ has joined #haiku [09:54:05] *** past0R has joined #haiku [09:55:44] *** past0R has quit IRC [10:15:02] *** thaflo_ has quit IRC [10:17:40] *** thaflo_ has joined #haiku [10:36:30] *** Racer__X has joined #haiku [10:42:19] *** Korli has joined #haiku [10:42:22] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Korli [10:59:47] *** Soulbender has quit IRC [11:13:49] *** el_gringo has joined #haiku [11:14:27] *** el_gringo has quit IRC [11:15:41] *** kr1stof has joined #haiku [11:17:26] *** Sikosis has joined #haiku [11:17:27] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sikosis [11:18:33] *** el_gringo has joined #haiku [11:28:44] [11:29:30] <el_gringo> Ouais ca roule [11:30:09] <el_gringo> mais heuuh a mon avis c'est pas au bon gringo que tu parles [11:30:17] *** Dr3w has joined #haiku [11:32:22] [11:34:22] <@Korli> non pourquoi ? [11:35:21] [11:35:51] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku [11:35:52] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man [11:37:14] <el_gringo> je viens jamais sur IRC d'habitude [11:37:34] *** Sikosis has quit IRC [11:40:54] *** illissius has quit IRC [11:41:01] *** illissius has joined #haiku [11:43:44] <el_gringo> is there someone who have news about Blue Eyed OS ? [11:44:11] <sys2_> that its a stupid idea to continue with it and that they should work on haiku insted? :/ [11:44:35] <slaad> Wow. [14:19:56] *** [Beta] has joined #haiku [14:32:11] *** Fanskapet has joined #haiku [14:47:07] *** slaad has quit IRC [15:32:57] *** dipp has joined #haiku [15:39:39] *** Begasus has quit IRC [16:03:41] *** hUMUNGUs has quit IRC [16:10:34] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku [16:23:28] *** jonaskirilla has joined #haiku [16:25:35] <jonaskirilla> Does anyone know what nick Christian Packmann uses, or if he's ever here? [16:27:30] <jonaskirilla> Korli: I successfully built TagLib with -fmultiple-symbol-spaces, but it didn't prevent it from crashing [16:28:43] <jonaskirilla> it uses a lot of STL [16:28:50] <jonaskirilla> if that matters [16:31:43] <jonaskirilla> if there's anyone here who wants to take a look, taglib and the Army Knife work in progress is in BeUnited's cvs [16:31:46] <jonaskirilla> export CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous at code dot beunited.org:/cvs/flipside [16:31:49] *** xeD has quit IRC [16:32:00] *** thaflo has quit IRC [16:32:10] <jonaskirilla> you need Oliver's new gcc to build it [16:32:28] *** hUMUNGUs has joined #haiku [16:32:47] <Lebuzzer> jonaskirilla [16:32:59] <Lebuzzer> I see you are persuing the issue here. :-) [16:32:59] <jonaskirilla> Lebuzzer: heya [16:33:21] <jonaskirilla> yeah, I really want to use TagLib, it's got great functionality and the API is nice [16:33:41] <jonaskirilla> plus, it works on BSD, like I said [16:34:00] <Lebuzzer> jonaskirilla needs some better porting apparently eh? [16:34:18] <jonaskirilla> so there must be something wrong in how its built on BeOS, or in the BeOS libraries or in the gcc stuff [16:34:53] <jonaskirilla> Lebuzzer: the thing is it compiles just fine, and for the most part it works great [16:35:11] <Lebuzzer> jonaskirilla Have you checked the points? Plugs? Carburator? [16:35:28] <jonaskirilla> the points? [16:35:29] <Lebuzzer> Maybe the gasline is blocked? [16:35:34] <jonaskirilla> heh [16:35:41] *** motoyama has joined #haiku [16:36:44] <jonaskirilla> there are a few sample apps included with TagLib, command-line stuff, and the relevant one, tagwrite too crashes on BeOS in the same way Army Knife does [16:37:45] <Lebuzzer> Are the tires all well-inflated? [16:38:04] <Lebuzzer> If crashes are a problem, I'd recommend strong bumpers and an airbag. [16:38:09] <Lebuzzer> sorry, I'll stop now. [16:38:24] <jonaskirilla> thanks :) [16:38:28] <Lebuzzer> hehe [16:38:42] <Lebuzzer> I just wish I could provide any insight, but programming is not a Dane thing. :-) [16:39:03] <jonaskirilla> but you sure are good at enlisting the help of others! :) [16:39:11] <jonaskirilla> I wish I had some of that voodoo [16:39:49] *** thaflo_ has quit IRC [16:39:49] *** Lebuzzer has quit IRC [16:40:10] <@Korli> jonaskirilla did you try to bdb the app [16:40:11] <@Korli> ? [16:41:20] <jonaskirilla> good suggestion, is -DDEBUG sufficient to build anything with debugging info? [16:41:35] <@mmu_man> -g [16:41:49] <jonaskirilla> ah, cool [16:42:18] <@Korli> it should help [16:42:26] <jonaskirilla> so export CXXFLAGS=-g should do it [16:45:04] *** Koki has joined #haiku [16:47:08] *** thaflo has joined #haiku [16:59:38] *** Greyhawk_Dragon has joined #haiku [17:02:44] <CIA-6> korli * current/src/kernel/libroot/os/debug.c: implemented _xdebugPrintf and _debugPrintf [17:07:15] *** motoyama has quit IRC [17:15:35] *** thaflo has quit IRC [17:15:45] *** Mazon has quit IRC [17:17:46] *** thaflo has joined #haiku [17:17:52] *** jonaskirilla has quit IRC [17:28:20] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC [17:37:46] *** Mazon has joined #haiku [17:39:54] *** mmadia has joined #haiku [17:47:50] *** tqh has joined #haiku [17:56:09] *** thaflo has quit IRC [17:58:51] *** sys2_ has quit IRC [17:59:56] *** Korli has quit IRC [18:00:35] *** RageMax has joined #haiku [18:01:45] *** mmadia has quit IRC [18:02:13] *** sys2 has joined #haiku [18:15:18] *** Karat3 has joined #haiku [18:19:41] *** el_gringo has quit IRC [18:20:27] <CIA-6> axeld * current/src/kernel/apps/consoled/ (consoled.cpp Jamfile main.c): [18:20:27] <CIA-6> Renamed main.c to console.cpp and link it against libbe.so [18:20:27] <CIA-6> (in anticipation of future changes). 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Version of driver is now 0.36. [21:29:19] <CIA-6> rudolfc * current/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/nvidia/ (UPDATE.html nv.settings): updated fixes documentation. 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[23:04:37] <Ortyx> it's been a while [23:04:51] <Ortyx> what kan haiku do nowadays [23:04:59] <Methe> french fries [23:05:02] <Methe> with ketcup [23:05:03] <@mmu_man> boot :p [23:05:08] *** Konrad has quit IRC [23:05:12] <Methe> kikoo mmu_man [23:05:24] <Ortyx> french fries is good.. windows can't even make coffe [23:05:39] <Ortyx> It could boot back when I last checked as well [23:05:45] <Ortyx> but not on hardware.. I think [23:05:51] <Ortyx> no graphical apps yet ? [23:06:04] <Ortyx> app server still slow in progress ? [23:06:18] <Methe> 18 <Methe> 1 peep added to the team [23:06:23] <Methe> and committed nice stuffs [23:06:31] <Methe> but yeah still slow [23:06:44] <Methe> like a bit kernel [23:06:53] <Methe> vut everything else is almost here [23:07:12] <Ortyx> was that person from the blue eyes project ? [23:07:20] *** slaad has joined #haiku [23:07:23] <Ortyx> methe: sounds cool [23:07:36] <Ortyx> most other kits are > 50% done ? [23:07:41] <Methe> yeah [23:07:44] <Methe> definitely [23:07:49] <Ortyx> cool.. even the game kit ? [23:07:55] <Methe> uhuh [23:07:57] <Methe> :) [23:08:00] <Methe> I dunno about it [23:08:05] <Ortyx> damn.. shit's getting exciting [23:08:09] <Methe> everything is taken from mesa or sthing [23:08:23] <Ortyx> but no graphical apps run yet.. even little simple ones ? [23:08:31] <Ortyx> sthing ? [23:08:36] <Ortyx> mesa's niuce [23:08:37] <Methe> well [23:08:50] <Methe> the> the biggest thing that lately happen is Jave and Swing [23:09:04] <Ortyx> ooh.. are they released ? [23:09:44] <Methe> http://haikunews.org/?id=959 [23:09:48] <Methe> see by yourself the video [23:09:57] <mmadia> nope. the java implementation needs to be certified by sun 1st. [23:10:18] <Ortyx> aah.. .that might take a while, ey ? [23:10:38] <Methe> but code is here and working [23:10:40] <Methe> see the video [23:14:15] *** oco has quit IRC [23:16:53] <Ortyx> cool [23:18:04] *** Methe has quit IRC [23:22:38] *** Ortyx has quit IRC [23:24:03] *** mmadia has quit IRC [23:25:17] *** tic has quit IRC [23:34:24] *** kr1stof has quit IRC [23:43:10] *** mmu_man has quit IRC [23:45:38] *** tqh has quit IRC [23:46:43] *** mmadia has joined #haiku [23:47:56] *** illissius[f00d] is now known as illissius[sleep] [23:48:19] *** fyysik has joined #haiku [23:48:49] *** fyysik has quit IRC [23:49:57] *** Potn has quit IRC [23:53:09] *** xeD has left #haiku [23:55:42] *** Fanskapet has quit IRC [23:57:26] *** kr1stof has joined #haiku [23:58:44] *** dipp has quit IRC