[00:00:02] <agentmumu> lymon: exactly
[00:00:15] <agentmumu> lymon: this might be a new one
[00:00:24] <lymon> as my kernel (it also so)
[00:00:27] <agentmumu> i just replaced an old one with the same link
[00:00:53] <lymon> but i can't get shell
[00:01:32] <agentmumu> this image worked at least on jonaskriillas pc and on my laptop
[00:02:01] <lymon> and in my desktop +) but my image (theoretically the same)
[00:02:08] <lymon> doesn't
[00:02:09] <agentmumu> but it can't find the haiku partition on my athlon box
[00:02:35] <agentmumu> lymon: do you get to the white screen?
[00:02:38] <mmadia> agentmumu your image from last night worked on my machine as well.
[00:03:15] <lymon> yes, i get white screen but seems that one driver is not loaded ... and followed
[00:03:22] <agentmumu> i'll do a fresh one in about 30 minutes or
[00:03:33] <agentmumu> lymon: i have the same problem in qemu
[00:03:35] <lymon> ... with my image, your image is well
[00:03:56] <lymon> i tested only in real =)
[00:04:13] <agentmumu> lymon: i once made an image and only got to the white screen, an the next day i recompiled the image, without doing a cvs update
[00:04:17] <agentmumu> and suddenly it worked
[00:04:23] <agentmumu> (this was with bochs)
[00:04:30] <lymon> hm
[00:05:19] <agentmumu> i don't know if this was coincidence or some wired kind of bug
[00:05:43] <lymon> i also found that we are use different gcc builds (041025 - yours, 041202 - my)
[00:06:21] <lymon> don't you want to update gcc ? ;-)
[00:06:24] <agentmumu> oh, i thought i have the december edition
[00:06:29] <agentmumu> lymon: hm, let me think
[00:06:43] <agentmumu> i guess i'll go the, never touch a running system, path
[00:06:52] <agentmumu> :)
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[00:08:44] <lymon> when system is not stable on ALL it doesn't stable at all =)
[00:09:43] <lymon> so let me know where your version of gcc is ? )
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[00:10:44] <agentmumu> i got it from olivers ftp site
[00:11:17] <lymon> but it seems that it is not gcc problem if you say that you observ similar problem in qemu
[00:11:46] <agentmumu> thats a good point
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[00:16:33] <lymon> athlon box have same sympthoms (just white screen) ?
[00:17:02] <lymon> or it reported that partition is not bootable or found
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[00:19:15] <agentmumu> lymon: the partition ist not found
[00:19:18] <lymon> jonaskirilla, did you boot haiku in shell or still use agentmumu's image ?
[00:19:20] <agentmumu> i get the haiku logo
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[00:19:39] <jonaskirilla> lymon: I haven't updated from cvs since yesterday
[00:19:41] <agentmumu> and with serial output it says the boot partition couldn't be found
[00:20:04] <jonaskirilla> but with agentmumu's image I did get the shell
[00:20:32] <jonaskirilla> it says something about boot area not found, but that doesn't seem to bother it
[00:20:49] <jonaskirilla> bfs says it mounts alright
[00:20:52] <lymon> i also, agenmumu made a spirit ritual on it =)
[00:21:00] <jonaskirilla> heh
[00:21:09] <jonaskirilla> I bet it's a trojan!
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[00:22:07] <agentmumu> h
[00:22:09] <lymon> boot area is not a problem, did it reported "PartitionLabel" message ?
[00:22:16] <agentmumu> uh, you caught me
[00:22:17] * agentmumu runs
[00:22:21] <jonaskirilla> heh agentmumu
[00:22:32] <jonaskirilla> lymon: I don't remember
[00:22:48] <jonaskirilla> booted off the cd so I had nowhere to store it
[00:23:00] <jonaskirilla> BeOS doesn't understand UFS
[00:23:52] <jonaskirilla> mmu_man: come out, come out, where ever you are!
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[00:24:39] <lymon> so another wave of debug waits for us (to get shell) :(
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[00:25:07] <jonaskirilla> lymon: what hardware have you got?
[00:25:28] <agentmumu> i'll take a shower, see you later
[00:25:49] <jonaskirilla> later agentmumu
[00:26:01] <lymon> jonaskirilla: ASUS TUSL2-C (i815EP) + Cel Tual 1.1GHz + 256 MB, agent cu
[00:30:45] <jonaskirilla> mine's an ASUS i845 2GHz Cel. with 512 MB
[00:30:45] <jonaskirilla> regular ATA
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[00:36:10] <jonaskirilla> sourceforge, godammit, let my password go!
[00:36:10] <w-ber> hehe, I'm lecturing one BeOS-ignorant on another channel :)
[00:36:10] <w-ber> he's never even heard of it
[00:36:10] <jonaskirilla> what? :)
[00:36:10] <jonaskirilla> I'm surprised how many have heard of it, and even tried and enjoyed it
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[00:37:04] <lymon> uhu, regular ATA
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[00:37:04] <jonaskirilla> test
[00:37:06] <agentmumu> i tried beos as a kid
[00:37:06] <agentmumu> r3 or something
[00:37:13] <agentmumu> argl, damn sourceforge cvs
[00:37:15] <jonaskirilla> lymon: our hardware is sort of similar
[00:37:15] <agentmumu> jonaskirilla: do you get broken pipe as well?
[00:38:00] <jonaskirilla> broken pipe.. with your image or my own?
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[00:38:01] <agentmumu> no on cvs
[00:38:09] <jonaskirilla> I don't recall :(
[00:38:09] <jonaskirilla> ah, yes, cvs wouldn't let me in
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[00:41:05] <jonaskirilla> it just hangs for a long while
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[00:42:26] <agentmumu> well, one last try, and then i'll visit flex (flex in vienna if anyone knows it)
[00:42:26] <jonaskirilla> askirilla>	a club?
[00:42:27] <agentmumu> yes
[00:42:27] <agentmumu> one of the very few in vienna
[00:42:27] <jonaskirilla> at this hour? ;)
[00:42:28] <agentmumu> its 00:42 down here :)
[00:42:28] <jonaskirilla> yeah, here too.. CET
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[00:43:18] <agentmumu> isn't that the time axeld usually starts commiting patches
[00:43:21] <agentmumu> :)
[00:43:28] <jonaskirilla> it is?
[00:43:44] <agentmumu> at least he is working late at night :)
[00:43:49] <jonaskirilla> working his way to his pillow
[00:45:09] <agentmumu> ok i'm out, enjoy your night guys :)
[00:45:33] <jonaskirilla> thanks agentmumu, the same to you!
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[00:47:12] <jonaskirilla> (hmm.. "the same to you".. is that swenglish?)
[00:47:22] <AnEvilYak> no, that's fine in english
[00:48:15] <jonaskirilla> thanks, I was beginning to worry
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[00:49:44] <AnEvilYak> hehe
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[03:15:43] <brennanOS> hi all
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[03:19:11] <brennanOS> anybody home?
[03:20:49] <MikeW> morn
[03:21:38] <brennanOS> hey, I have a programming question...
[03:23:45] <brennanOS> I have an application that handles B_KEY_DOWN, that ceases to handle B_KEY_DOWN properly after the mouse has been clicked in the corresponding BTextView
[03:24:06] <brennanOS> corresponding meaning the values of the keys are sent to this view
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[03:29:22] <brennanOS> and of course Im wondering why that is
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[03:30:53] <SiCuTDeUs> iam so hungry
[03:31:34] <SiCuTDeUs> iCuTDeUs>	i can eat a cow
[03:33:45] <brennanOS> go ahead
[03:33:57] <SiCuTDeUs> jejeje
[03:34:03] <SiCuTDeUs> like venezuela food?
[03:34:08] <SiCuTDeUs> arepas!!!
[03:34:11] <SiCuTDeUs> pabellon!!!!
[03:34:39] <SiCuTDeUs> have you taste any of these
[03:35:53] <Soulbender> no
[03:36:04] <SiCuTDeUs> mmm
[03:36:18] <SiCuTDeUs> a pasta named raggu?
[03:36:34] <SiCuTDeUs> iam italo-venezuelan
[03:40:32] <brennanOS> Im debating putting this app on BeBits
[03:41:39] <SiCuTDeUs> what app?
[03:42:36] <brennanOS> I combined Graph with my (what I intend to be) mutlimode calculator to form a complete TI-89 like calculator app
[03:43:01] <brennanOS> But I may not get time to go any further with it, and I dont want it to just sit here
[03:43:30] <brennanOS> I dont know
[03:44:24] <SiCuTDeUs> well
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[03:45:27] <coolhand> has anyone heard any news from the guy who was working on dhcp support
[03:45:51] <SiCuTDeUs> if it can help some one uploadit... and expecified that is the only version
[03:46:11] <brennanOS> There was a debate about scrapping the current network code and porting FreeBSDs net stack
[03:46:12] <SiCuTDeUs> my english socks
[03:46:21] <SiCuTDeUs> mmm
[03:46:22] <brennanOS> so I don't know if he is still working on it or what
[03:46:25] <coolhand> what was the reason
[03:46:45] <brennanOS> I dont know... I thought it was kind of a dumb idea, but I didn't voice my opinion
[03:47:30] <coolhand> yeah seems like a big undertaking for having a semi working netstack already
[03:47:38] <brennanOS> I don't think this project needs a big time setback
[03:47:47] <brennanOS> There is no momentum to it as it is
[03:48:12] <brennanOS> We/they need to produce some form of alpha release people can mess with, in my opinion
[03:48:22] <coolhand> yeah, especialy because there are basicly no networking team
[03:48:25] <Soulbender> the guy who was pushing for portng the freebsd stack stopped working on haikuall together
[03:48:26] <Soulbender> iirc
[03:48:36] <brennanOS> who was the again?
[03:48:38] <brennanOS> that
[03:48:41] <coolhand> waldermer
[03:48:44] <coolhand> ?
[03:48:45] <Soulbender> kornewald
[03:48:48] <coolhand> oh
[03:48:52] <brennanOS> he stopped working on Haiku?
[03:49:41] <Soulbender> yes
[03:49:48] <brennanOS> interesting... reason?
[03:50:40] <Soulbender> http://www.freelists.org/archives/openbeos/01-2005/msg00062.html
[03:51:55] <coolhand> damn
[03:53:22] <brennanOS> hm
[03:53:29] <brennanOS> no wonder the network team has all but died
[03:53:48] <coolhand> you a developer?
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[03:54:04] <brennanOS> I was doing debugging and testing on the network code awhile ago
[03:54:16] <coolhand> how bad was it
[03:54:22] <brennanOS> I dont know
[03:54:27] <brennanOS> I cant tell if its good or bad
[03:54:28] <coolhand> haha
[03:54:34] <brennanOS> only if it worked or not
[03:54:46] <brennanOS> we had a good month or two there, then nothing
[03:55:02] <brennanOS> it was mostly working
[03:55:17] <brennanOS> could ftp, ping, and some people were able to get online with NetPositive
[04:00:31] <brennanOS> I would assume it still can
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[04:02:31] <brennanOS> How many active developers do we have?
[04:02:34] <brennanOS> Three?
[04:09:11] <brennanOS> Wasn't YellowTab selling machines with Zeta pre-installed?
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[05:05:18] <CIA-6> axeld * current/src/apps/bin/translate.cpp: (log message trimmed)
[05:05:19] <CIA-6> Almost complete rewrite of the translate command. Fixed broken argument
[05:05:19] <CIA-6> parsing and type code conversion.
[05:05:19] <CIA-6> Some additions/changes to the original:
[05:05:19] <CIA-6> -6>	- now prints the version information in the new versioning scheme (base 16)
[05:05:19] <CIA-6> -6>	- added optional --verbose parameter that gives information about the
[05:05:21] <CIA-6> translations needed to get the output format.
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[08:06:14] <Brycegroff> hello
[08:06:58] <Brycegroff> when using the makehdimage and copying all the files to a real hard disc is it nessasry to use dd to copy zbeos to the mbr?
[08:21:55] <mmu_man> re
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[10:43:45] <CIA-6> jackburton * current/src/kits/interface/ChannelSlider.cpp: Added bitmaps for the horizontal and vertical thumbs.
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[10:52:38] <@JBurton> hi
[10:54:01] <@JBurton> hi Korli
[10:56:45] <@Korli> hi JBurton
[10:58:50] <@Korli> anyone knows BeGeistert 014 dates ?
[10:59:24] <@Korli> it's annoying these dates are published so late
[11:03:44] <@JBurton> yeah, once can't organize well enough
[11:03:48] <@JBurton> s/once/one
[11:04:36] <@JBurton> I think I could even come this time
[11:04:47] <@JBurton> my financial situation isn't so bad lately
[11:05:00] <@Korli> cool
[11:05:43] <@Korli> mail from Adi reminds me our difference with BlueEyedOS :)
[11:07:36] <Soulbender> difference?>
[11:07:50] <@JBurton> gpl/mit ?
[11:07:54] <@JBurton> closed/open ?
[11:08:31] <Soulbender> oh right
[11:08:42] <Soulbender> that ole flogged horse
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[11:09:44] <@JBurton> I think he was here yesterday afternoon, looking for me
[11:09:54] <@JBurton> right ?
[11:10:05] 
[11:10:06] <@JBurton> (adi)
[11:10:35] <Soulbender> dunno
[11:11:05] <@JBurton> I'm sure I saw his name just before I shut down the pc
[11:12:55] <@JBurton> Korli so you're going to get an ECHO card ? :P
[11:16:00] <@Korli> it's just a prop
[11:16:23] <@Korli> as no one steps on this since one year
[11:17:01] <@Korli> whereas hard work is done
[11:17:03] <@JBurton> I see...
[11:17:19] <@Korli> no pressure ...
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[13:14:36] <Dr3w> Hey folks.
[13:14:49] <Dr3w> I was looking at some old code I never finished last night, and got myself well confused :)
[13:15:02] <Dr3w> its a simple calculator, but I am confused at the logic of it.
[13:15:53] <Soulbender> if you dont know i doubt anyone else will :P
[13:18:53] <Dr3w> say a users enters 1 then presses + then enters 1 again then presses equals, the logic would be something liek this:
[13:19:10] <Dr3w> grab whats in the display
[13:19:14] <Dr3w> put it in variable1
[13:19:26] <Dr3w> wait.
[13:19:28] <Dr3w> thats wrong :)
[13:19:55] <Dr3w> user enters numbers, it gets put in the display, they then press + the display gets grabbed
[13:20:21] <Dr3w> the grabbed display gets puts into variable 1, the user enters the second number and it gets put in the display
[13:20:47] <Dr3w> I set a type to 1 (meaning +)
[13:21:06] <Dr3w> then when the user presses = I grab the display, add it to variable 1
[13:21:25] <Dr3w> and then set the display to the value of variable 1.
[13:23:04] <Dr3w> oh yeah, thats the question
[13:23:26] <Dr3w> what sort of logic can I use if the user *dosen't* press enter, say they press * or /...
[13:24:23] <Soulbender> i have no idea
[13:25:35] <Dr3w> I need some sort of loop, but I am confused as to how you do that in OOP, what with messages being passed around...
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[13:28:28] <@voidref> Dr3w, there are 2 things here
[13:28:32] <@voidref> 1) OO programming
[13:28:38] <@voidref> 2) Event driven API
[13:29:49] <@voidref> basically in the API, you set up your UI, and then wait to react to messages.
[13:30:27] <@voidref> the reacting happens in one or more MEssageREceived() methods that you override.
[13:30:46] <Dr3w> voidref, I think I am trying to put some procedural code smack bang in the middle of an object - which is why I am gettin gconfused.
[13:30:53] <Dr3w> I haven't coded oop in over 2 years :)
[13:31:05] <@voidref> there is always procedural code in an object
[13:31:12] <@voidref> objects are made up of procedural code
[13:31:39] <Dr3w> well, I am trying to put a loop in the object
[13:31:54] <@voidref> you are confusing event driven and OO
[13:32:05] <Dr3w> yeah - thats it :)
[13:32:16] <@voidref> you dont' want a loop
[13:32:27] <@voidref> you MIGHT want more of a state machine
[13:32:44] <@voidref> what you really need to do is respond to input in the message received.
[13:32:52] <@voidref> if you are using the haiku api
[13:33:14] <@voidref> you should read the bebook sections on 'responding to the user'
[13:33:37] <@JBurton> voidref the haiku api ? :P
[13:34:06] <@voidref> this is #haiku isn't it?
[13:34:57] <Dr3w> yes, its Be code.
[13:35:10] <Dr3w> Hmmmm...
[13:35:39] <Dr3w> actually, I think I have a completed Tic-Tac-Toe game I wrote about 3 years ago that has some UI driven code in it.
[13:35:45] <Dr3w> ahhh.... I think I get it now.
[13:36:07] <Dr3w> I need to create a new object, like a math object that stores variables, and does the maths.
[13:36:29] <Dr3w> I can then recieve messages in MessageREcevied, and then manupulate that object based on the messages
[13:36:33] <Dr3w> is that right?
[13:36:42] <Dr3w> the UI is all done.
[13:36:48] <Dr3w> its the logic that isn't!
[13:39:16] <Dr3w> voidref, would that work - having a MathObject?
[13:39:38] <Dr3w> where variables are stored and maniplulated?
[13:40:48] <@Korli> there is a skinnable calculator written by a japanese developer
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[13:44:31] <@JBurton> voidref eheh
[13:44:39] <@JBurton> Dr3w that's an idea
[13:44:55] <Dr3w> Korli, I wanted to finish the one I have written to be honest!
[13:45:20] <@Korli> ehe
[13:45:23] <Dr3w> even though it looks almost exactly like this http://haydenm0.tripod.com/calc/screens.html
[13:45:55] <@JBurton> brb
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[14:08:44] <JBurton> re
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[15:34:40] <ahwayakchih> i]
[15:34:41] <ahwayakchih> hih>	hi
[15:35:18] <w-ber> damn that Linux box
[15:35:28] <w-ber> or maybe it's a hardware problem
[15:35:48] <w-ber> sometimes when I boot the keyboard and mouse (PS/2 both) don't work and sometimes they do
[15:36:36] <ahwayakchih> any good english speaker here who could write README file with some instructions for my silly app? :)
[15:37:30] <Dr3w> I will
[15:37:57] <Dr3w> ahwayakchih, what language is the original file in?
[15:38:20] <CIA-6> bonefish * current/headers/os/kernel/debugger.h:
[15:38:20] <CIA-6> * Some formatting cleanup.
[15:38:20] <CIA-6> * Removed ARM support.
[15:38:20] <CIA-6> * Removed PEF references.
[15:38:20] <CIA-6> * Added structure and constants for pre syscall tracing.
[15:38:50] <ahwayakchih> Dr3w i don't have original file (if i had it would be in polish probably :(
[15:39:01] <ahwayakchih> ih>	i thought i can explain what does it do
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[15:39:50] <Dr3w> ok, well if you write the polish version, I will run the polish version through a translator then clean it up so its "real" english :)
[15:40:26] <ahwayakchih> Dr3w heh, maybe i can just write what it does and tell You what's needed to use it (install it)?
[15:41:11] <Dr3w> ok
[15:41:31] <Dr3w> I am at work *right* this second, so email me @ andrew.mccall at gmail dot com and I will write a nice doc for you :)
[15:41:34] <ahwayakchih> Dr3w here's the thing: attr2bmsg is a "workaround" which lets user compress and decompress files into all available formats without loosing BFS attributes data
[15:41:51] <Dr3w> ah thats pretty simple!
[15:42:00] <ahwayakchih> Dr3w nah, that's just intro :)
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[15:42:33] <ahwayakchih> Dr3w thing is that to "inmplement" it into Expander and Archiver one has to convert their rule files, which may not be so simple for common user
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[15:43:05] <ahwayakchih> ih>	i wrote simple converter but it's too simple (ie. it assumes always recurse option anddo-not-follow-symlinks)
[15:44:49] <ahwayakchih> Dr3w Do You know C/C++ ?
[15:44:56] <Dr3w> heh - I *did* :)
[15:45:42] <ahwayakchih> heh, ok, so i'll send You also converter application along with app itself so You can try/test it, and look into sourcecode if my explanation will not be understandable :)
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[16:27:24] <@JBurton> hi ahwayakchih
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[16:29:46] <tic> moo
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[16:31:06] <jonaskirilla> muu tic!
[16:31:13] 
[16:31:28] <jonaskirilla> hey mmu_man
[16:31:43] <jonaskirilla> got my email, mmu_man?
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[16:35:52] <Dr3w> later folks!
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[16:39:33] <mmu_man> jonaskirilla can't check my mbox from there
[16:40:01] <jonaskirilla> mmu_man: ah, ok
[16:40:17] <jonaskirilla> mmu_man: just a little army knife related
[16:41:08] <CIA-6> stippi * current/src/tests/servers/app/painter/main.cpp: clean up, ellipse comparison test
[16:43:37] <mmu_man> k
[16:43:47] <CIA-6> stippi * current/src/servers/app/server/Painter/Painter.cpp: DrawingMode is no longer in agg namespace, an ellipse is drawn with a minimum of 12 sections
[16:43:47] <mmu_man> will read when I'm back from mannheim
[16:44:13] <jonaskirilla> mmu_man: ETA?
[16:44:13] <mmu_man> gahh bloody qwertz keyb with an azerty keymap
[16:44:23] <mmu_man> tomorrow 5am
[16:44:29] <jonaskirilla> great
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[16:45:37] <CIA-6> stippi * current/src/servers/app/server/Painter/defines.h: a little clean up, usage of unpacked scanline container gives a small speedup
[16:45:43] <jonaskirilla> bbl
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[16:53:11] <CIA-6> stippi * current/src/servers/app/server/Painter/drawing_modes/ (20 files): huge cleanup and more style guide conformance, removed agg namespace, used marcos for inlined blending functions to avoid dereferencing, which gives a small speedup
[17:03:47] <ahwayakchih> re
[17:03:53] <ahwayakchih> JBurton sorry i was away
[17:04:00] <ahwayakchih> hih>	hi JBurton :)
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[17:05:21] <@JBurton> me too :P
[17:09:42] <ahwayakchih> ;]
[17:12:37] <@JBurton> I'm doing extra work
[17:12:43] <ahwayakchih> ?
[17:13:34] <@JBurton> we bought a new server, today we removed an old one and put in the new
[17:13:54] <@JBurton> so, I'm setting things up so that monday people can work as usual
[17:14:28] <@JBurton> time to go :P
[17:14:31] <@JBurton> see ya ahwayakchih
[17:14:32] <@JBurton> et all
[17:14:36] <ahwayakchih> cya JBurton
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[17:14:55] <ahwayakchih> cya everyone
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[17:18:58] <Dr_Evil> hi
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[18:47:40] <agentmumu> does haiku boot for anyone on real hardware with a cd- or dvd-burner installed?
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[19:30:30] <MikeW> finally, I remembered what I wanted to ask
[19:30:49] <MikeW> any oBFS devs in?
[19:31:08] <MikeW> or knowledgable out the fs?
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[19:32:21] <MikeW> Does bfs support multiple filestreams?
[19:32:43] <@Dr_Evil> well, there are attributes
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[19:32:59] <@Dr_Evil> but I think they are limited to 4 GB size, but I'm not sure
[19:33:07] <MikeW> hmm, storing a diff of the file as an extra attribute mightn't be the best
[19:33:39] <MikeW> 4gb, hmm, I must have BADLY misread about them before. I thought attributes were limited to 255 characters
[19:33:39] <@Dr_Evil> you can write arbitrary data into attribues, so I think they can be called filestreams :)
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[19:33:59] <@Dr_Evil> MikeW it's possible that the attribute name is limited to 255 bytes
[19:34:08] <@Dr_Evil> but the data can be large, at least 4 GB
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[19:41:26] <MikeW> because I was just thinking how much I'd love a versioning system for files on my filesystem
[19:42:09] <@Dr_Evil> I'm using svn for local source management
[19:42:16] <MikeW> each time a file is modified, have the ability to save the diff to the file in an attribute and switch between versions
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[19:42:53] <MikeW> bleh, yeah, for your source code
[19:45:47] <@Dr_Evil> hmm, Beer
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[19:48:47] <mmadia> hi fyysik.  got some good news.
[19:49:37] <mmadia> Kancepts donating some hardware... Tyan S1834D dual slot 1    max: 1ghz@100 or 933@133.
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[20:25:00] <fyysik> AnEvilYak
[20:25:24] <AnEvilYak> yes?
[20:27:55] <AnEvilYak> ugh...cable connection going nuts
[20:28:05] * AnEvilYak might disconnect
[20:29:01] <fyysik> AnEvilYak - strange issue in Vision
[20:29:34] <fyysik> When i try to select text in channel window by dragging mouse from end to beginnging of line, for example
[20:29:40] <fyysik> ik>	i cannot select first letter
[20:30:24] <fyysik> it allows if it isnt wrapped line
[20:30:43] <fyysik> but when line is wrapped, so no nickname at taht line
[20:30:49] <fyysik> it cannot be selected
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[20:40:08] <AnEvilYak> fyysik: dunno, can't seem to replicate that behavior here.
[20:42:37] <fyysik> AnEvilYak - decrease vision width, so lines go to be wrapped
[20:42:50] <AnEvilYak> fyysik: still works.
[20:43:23] <fyysik> are you trying to select "second" line to beginning?
[20:43:41] <AnEvilYak> yep.
[20:44:04] <AnEvilYak> there was a bug like that once, but that was like 2 years ago.
[20:44:19] <fyysik> ok, i succeed to select whole "line when move cursor line above, like selecting "new-line" character or end of previous line
[20:45:03] <fyysik> fine, About shows me slides with credits
[20:45:09] <fyysik> when i wish to see version
[20:45:56] <AnEvilYak> current from bebits by the looks of it.
[20:46:26] <AnEvilYak> you can see it at the top of any of the server windows in any case.
[20:48:08] <AnEvilYak> what font btw?
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[20:52:16] <fyysik> Zurich BT
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[21:03:53] <AnEvilYak> hm, I only have regular Zurich
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[21:05:56] <fyysik> ik>	i think it is same
[21:06:36] <fyysik> AnEvilYak - names are bit cryptic
[21:06:52] <fyysik> what is name for font here in channel window?
[21:07:01] <fyysik> Channel List?
[21:07:03] <fyysik> Text?
[21:07:16] <CIA-6> axeld * buildtools/INSTALL-from-source-BeOS:
[21:07:16] <CIA-6> Added some of the tools you need to build and where you can find them.
[21:07:16] <CIA-6> It still doesn't seem to be enough, though.
[21:07:30] <AnEvilYak> fyysik: Text
[21:07:38] <AnEvilYak> fyysik: Channel List is for /list
[21:07:40] <fyysik> test2 gdfk;kk fglk; fdl;k              fgkl;dkl;dfkl;k dfglkl;dfkg l;kl;dfkg   dflkl;k gl;k;lk ;lkdfg
[21:07:48] <fyysik> same with Verdana
[21:08:05] <fyysik> ik>	i don't think this is font issue, though
[21:08:11] <AnEvilYak> weird though
[21:08:14] <AnEvilYak> 'cause I can't dpulicate it here
[21:08:20] <AnEvilYak> anyhow, getting lunch
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[21:49:57] <mmadia> does the nVidia nForce3 chipset work with beos?
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[21:57:13] <TuneTracker> Does anyone know if netgear wireless nics work with BeOS or Zeta?
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[21:59:10] <@Dr_Evil> MA401 works
[21:59:33] <@Dr_Evil> but this one is sold with different chipsets, so you don't know if you get the correct one
[22:00:37] <b3w> my ma111 only works up to 15 minutes - netserver, bone, zeta - all the same - my next task ist to write an email to patrick l.
[22:00:44] <TuneTracker> Dr_Evil MA401 is netgear?
[22:01:07] <b3w> yes - an older card
[22:01:41] <TuneTracker> In order to install, do you have to download a driver from somewhere, or just plug it in and cross your fingers?
[22:02:07] <@Dr_Evil> hfa384 driver from bebits
[22:02:20] <@Dr_Evil> and you need to edit the settings file if you want WEP key support
[22:02:41] <@Dr_Evil> thats just one card that I have here, there may be others
[22:03:43] <TuneTracker> Dr_Evil Another dumb question, what's WEP key?
[22:04:08] <@Dr_Evil> a (weak) encryption
[22:04:11] <TuneTracker> ah ok
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[22:04:22] <TuneTracker> ok, will do some spearminting  :-)
[22:04:27] <TuneTracker> thanks much...
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[22:23:38] <CIA-6> nielx * current/docs/develop/kernel/USB_stack_design:
[22:23:50] <CIA-6> zooey * buildtools/gcc_distribution/README: - forgot about committing this, contains updated changes (from last release).
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[22:40:15] <pres589> Hey everybody
[22:41:02] <pres589> I'm looking for a web browser that actually launches in Dano, besides Net+... what should I do?
[22:41:55] <@Dr_Evil> FireFox
[22:42:48] <pres589> Which build?
[22:42:54] <pres589> I've got a firefox on here already that doesn't launch
[22:43:18] <@Dr_Evil> don't know, perhaps fyysik knows
[22:46:31] <pres589> fyysik: poke poke poke
[22:51:57] <pres589> he's not responding
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[22:54:41] <fyysik> ?
[22:54:45] * fyysik was away
[22:55:15] <fyysik> pres589 - did you test versions from links at bezila blog?
[22:55:26] <fyysik> some of those recent may work
[22:56:04] <pres589> I'm downloading the latest Bezilla CVS build from bebits as we speak
[22:56:18] <pres589> 1.8a5
[22:56:53] <fyysik> pres589 - this will work, though it is much more slower than 1.7a builds. But those crash under Dano for misterious reason:(
[22:57:13] <pres589> hrm
[22:58:31] <fyysik> look at this blog http://www.livejournal.com/community/bezilla/  for 2-3 last weeks, there must be working FF builds published
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[22:59:47] <pres589> ok
[23:00:08] * fyysik noticed that pres589 is even member of the blog
[23:01:39] <pres589> heh, indeed I am
[23:01:51] <pres589> but I hadn't seen anyone go "woot, got this working under Dano/Zeta"
[23:01:57] <pres589> and hadn't used my Be box for much lately
[23:03:44] <pres589> ok, the build in the Jan 31 post launchs here in 5.1
[23:03:53] <pres589> I'll let you know if I see a crash or anything
[23:03:55] <fyysik> actually lot of latest "not-so-public" builds do work under Dano
[23:04:25] <b3w> i think this is  the build i use at the momen on zeta > http://bezilla.xentronix.com/tqh/MozillaFirefox_1.0+-beos-20050119-BONE-EXPERIMENTAL.zip
[23:05:21] <b3w> but i do not know if i am right - i tested many builds in the past
[23:06:32] <pres589> This thing scrolls a ton better than I remember
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[23:45:27] <desidaerius504> anyone want a gmail invite?
[23:45:52] <LdrOfLstSouls> i would love to try gmail
[23:46:20] <desidaerius504> whats your email so I can send you an invite?
[23:46:25] <desidaerius504> you can pm it to me
[23:46:43] <LdrOfLstSouls> absleadcoder at msn dot com
[23:47:02] <LdrOfLstSouls> i don't care about pms, that is my spam account anyway, lol
[23:47:21] <desidaerius504> lol
[23:47:33] <LdrOfLstSouls> so when is gmail becoming public???
[23:47:34] <[Beta]> wont msn/yahoo eat the gmail invite thou?
[23:47:38] <desidaerius504> thats what i use my gmail account for, my in-laws lame forwards :-p
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[23:47:57] <desidaerius504> not that I am aware of Beta
[23:48:03] <LdrOfLstSouls> nope
[23:48:07] <desidaerius504> Ldr: I'm not sure, its still in beta last i heard
[23:48:43] <LdrOfLstSouls> yeah i love the features of the gmail
[23:49:00] <LdrOfLstSouls> google has become really well integrated on the net
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[23:52:05] <desidaerius504> sent :-)
[23:53:10] <LdrOfLstSouls> thank you, i love google
[23:54:18] <desidaerius504> me too, at least the search engine anyway. I once accidently overwrote an old HTML file on my website and i didnt hav e a backup, so I searched for the page on google and went to the cached page. Saved me about two hours of work :-)
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[23:55:05] <desidaerius504> never thought the cahced page feature would ever come in handy till then :-)
[23:56:40] <desidaerius504> let me know that you got it when you receive it
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