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[00:29:13] <CIA-6> bonefish * current/src/kernel/core/messaging/MessagingService.cpp: Added debug output. No functional change. Surprisingly things seem to work.
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[00:40:41] <CIA-6> bonefish * current/src/kernel/core/messaging/MessagingService.cpp: The reduced area size was used for testing only.
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[01:26:54] <CIA-6> bonefish * current/src/servers/registrar/ (MessageDeliverer.cpp MessagingService.cpp): Added a bit of documentation.
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[02:34:54] <NathanW> Anyone here run net_server and have the Haiku tree?
[02:35:15] <lymon> i have the Haiku tree
[02:35:19] <mmadia> its downloading at the moment NathanW.... 56k though :(
[02:35:25] <NathanW> ah, nice
[02:35:34] <NathanW> lymon: And net_server?
[02:35:39] <NathanW> You'll also need OpenSSL
[02:35:53] <lymon> nathanw: in tree ?
[02:35:55] <NathanW> And it needs to be current as of 20 hours ago
[02:35:59] <NathanW> no, it's not
[02:38:12] <mumu25> i'm so drunk
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[07:44:55] <gatolas> T.H. Elliot
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[07:46:00] <gatolas> fanskapet
[07:46:08] <gatolas> sounds like a carpet company
[07:46:11] <gatolas> that works fast
[07:50:42] <gatolas> soulbender is the puss version of soulreaver?
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[11:53:45] <CIA-6> rudolfc * current/src/add-ons/accelerants/nvidia/engine/nv_acc_dma.c: small simplification for reading and writing DMAGET and DMAPUT, gives a minor speedup (a few percent max).
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[12:45:02] <CIA-6> rudolfc * current/src/add-ons/accelerants/nvidia/engine/nv_general.c: added 3 more cardID's (a GF6600, a GF6800 and a PCX4300).
[12:46:19] <CIA-6> rudolfc * current/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/nvidia/driver.c: added 3 more cardID's.
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[13:36:42] <CIA-6> rudolfc * current/src/add-ons/accelerants/nvidia/ProposeDisplayMode.c: fixed memory size check for virtualmodes (take DMA into account)
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[15:36:58] <CIA-6> rudolfc * current/src/add-ons/accelerants/nvidia/engine/nv_acc_dma.c: completed NV20 architecture DMA acceleration: confirmed both NV20 and NV30 architectur up and running OK BTW.
[15:38:59] <dipp> \o/ nice :)
[15:40:36] <CIA-6> rudolfc * current/headers/private/graphics/nvidia/nv_macros.h: added NV20 arch defines.
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[15:50:52] <Dr3w> OOoooo....
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[17:49:10] <reflectioned> Hey
[17:49:52] <Methe> hey
[17:51:25] <reflectioned> What's up
[17:52:36] <Methe> studying
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[17:56:16] <Methe> :)
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[19:03:17] <Edrin> hi
[19:03:41] <desidaerius504> hello
[19:03:49] <Edrin> in>	in case i want to develop for haiku, what project is a good one to join?
[19:04:19] <Edrin> in>	i did much socket coding in the past, have experience with expat and GUI coding
[19:04:37] <Edrin> all in c++, I also know some wxWidgets very well
[19:04:59] <desidaerius504> idaerius504>	i don't know to be honest. Im sort of a lurker who is interested in seeing what Haiku turns into in the future. My answer would be any project you want to join :-p
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[19:05:56] <Edrin> hm
[19:05:56] <Methe> Edrin
[19:05:59] <Edrin> yes?
[19:06:02] <Methe> u better ask on the mailing list
[19:06:06] <Methe> though
[19:06:09] <Methe> if u're motivate
[19:06:17] <Methe> and as it seems u have motivation
[19:06:27] <Methe> you could choose the part you would like to develop
[19:06:35] <Methe> network/kernel/etc
[19:06:39] <Methe> but once again
[19:06:47] <Methe> I recommand you join up the mailing list and ask there
[19:06:54] <Methe> u'll get a 10 times better answer than here
[19:07:15] <Edrin> in>	i believe you
[19:07:22] <Methe> =)
[19:07:27] <desidaerius504> heh
[19:07:31] <Edrin> Methe: what project are you working on?
[19:07:38] <Methe> Themis
[19:07:49] <Methe> but it's a bit on halt dueto real life for every dev of it
[19:08:04] <Edrin> what is Themis?
[19:08:36] <Methe> http://themis.sf.net
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[19:11:16] <Methe> Edrin; I might have misunderstood you. You would like to develop for the Haiku platform (apps, drivers, etc..) or you would like to help making Haiku ?
[19:11:35] <Edrin> second one
[19:11:48] <Methe> ok then i understood right = )
[19:11:58] <Methe> Themis is something independant
[19:12:10] <Methe> so for Haiku itself. The Mailing List is the bes t way (TM)
[19:12:16] <Methe> =)
[19:13:22] <Edrin> hm...
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[19:13:39] <Edrin> in>	i know there is the IM Kit for BeOS, is it stable/good?
[19:14:50] <Methe> I wouldnt be able to tell you
[19:14:54] <Methe> be some peeps use it
[19:14:56] <Edrin> so far i was mainly developing Jabber Clients
[19:14:58] <Methe> there's a whan
[19:15:01] <Methe> *chan
[19:15:17] <Methe> #beosimkit
[19:15:18] <Edrin> so maybe i could write a jabber module for beos
[19:15:25] <Methe> theree's already
[19:15:28] <Methe> an 31 18:15:28 <Methe>	a jabber module
[19:15:31] <Methe> in development
[19:15:38] <Edrin> do you have an url?
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[19:16:14] <Methe> hmm
[19:16:17] <Methe> Google ? :D
[19:17:10] <Edrin> in>	i know there is a jabber lcient but is there a real jabber lib/interface for it?
[19:17:19] <Edrin> in>	i am working on wxxcd.sf.net atm.
[19:17:21] <Methe> I have myself a Jabber client
[19:17:22] <Methe> for BeOS
[19:18:13] <Edrin> yes, does it offer API :)?
[19:18:23] <Methe> I dunno
[19:18:29] <Methe> :)
[19:18:35] <Edrin> Methe: what do you think, when will there be a beta of haiku
[19:18:36] <Edrin> ?
[19:19:03] <Methe> In a year I guess
[19:19:06] <Methe> for complete haiku
[19:19:20] <Edrin> yes
[19:19:23] <Edrin> hm...
[19:19:32] <Methe> but if u help them that might be seeoner
[19:19:36] <Methe> *sooner
[19:19:45] <Methe> there's already plenty of woking stuffs
[19:19:49] <Edrin> Methe: how do you like the concept of XCD? http://wxxcd.sourceforge.net/xcd-lib.jpg
[19:19:50] <desidaerius504> my uninformed guess would be about 18 months
[19:19:53] <Methe> but Kernel andd app_server are tough
[19:20:51] <Methe> I would need to study it
[19:20:56] <Methe> got no time right now
[19:21:02] <Methe> I'm studying ofor my tomorrow exam
[19:21:06] <Methe> :))
[19:21:23] <Edrin> in>	i am really looking forward to it. i dont like linux because of its config files... when i used beos it was already dieing (and not OS)
[19:21:29] <Methe> anyway all your questions would get a better answer... (guess where ?) on the mailing list :DD
[19:21:41] <Methe> yeah
[19:21:43] <Edrin> jaja
[19:21:46] <Methe> I dont like Linux either
[19:21:59] <Methe> I just lvove my BeOS box. :)
[19:22:06] <Methe> Installed it 5 years ago
[19:22:14] <Methe> still handiest computer in my room
[19:23:15] <Methe> I'm sure u'll find something u'll like :)
[19:23:21] <Methe> now i'm sorry i really got to work
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[19:23:44] <Koki> Edrin, check out the #beosimkit channel on this server.
[19:24:03] <Methe> Koki: already pointed it
[19:24:24] <w-ber> will Haiku eventually support network booting?
[19:24:41] <Methe> w-ber: not in R1 i guess
[19:25:10] <w-ber> Methe: I didn't think so :)
[19:25:31] <Methe> ah
[19:25:32] <w-ber> considering that BeOS R5 doesn't support it, and Haiku R1 is supposed to be nearly 1:1
[19:25:53] <Methe> that's a wrong statement
[19:26:04] <Methe> Haiku is R5
[19:26:09] <Methe> + some fixes here and there
[19:26:16] <Methe> and some preparing for futures
[19:26:29] <Methe> but there is no feature added
[19:26:30] <w-ber> therefore the statement was right :)
[19:26:39] <w-ber> it's 1:1 plus enhancements
[19:26:48] <Methe> internal enhancements
[19:27:31] <Methe> i might be wrong but I'm ready to bet a beer :D
[19:29:00] <Methe> anyway, u better ask on mailing list :D
[19:29:08] * Methe should trademark that
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[19:36:29] <CIA-6> axeld * current/src/kernel/core/vm/vm.c:
[19:36:29] <CIA-6> transfer_area() now reserves the address range of the old area after removing
[19:36:29] <CIA-6> it, so that it can guarantee readding it again, in case the transfer is failing.
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[20:11:04] <NathanW> Is anyone here running R5+BONE?
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[20:11:46] <sys2> i am in my beos .. not in it atm tho
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[22:26:09] <fyysik> hi biesi-win - unfortunately AnEvilYak is somewhere else:(
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[22:27:42] <fyysik> frankps - did you see Rene here recently?
[22:29:46] <frankps> Saw him this morning I guess
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[22:31:18] <fyysik> Christian Biesinger received Zeta copy, frankps - and already installed. So wish to help him to get in touch with Rene
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[22:32:27] <fyysik> btw, where Rene is living atm - Austria? Swiss? Belgium?
[22:33:36] <tqh> fyysik Ah that's great.
[22:34:28] <fyysik> tqh - only problem is that Zeta crashes for him. We tried to replace RTL8139 driver, lets see if it helps
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[22:35:11] <fyysik> tqh - di you receive your Zeta too? I saw z_eight asking today people about that
[22:35:28] <tqh> fyysik No I havn't
[22:36:12] <tqh> but the timing is perfect as I'll soon have a new laptop and a 250GB USB disk.
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[22:47:41] <Konrad> fyysik US if Iam not misstaken
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[22:49:48] <fyysik> Konrad - Rene moved to US? interesting
[22:50:10] <Korli2> i2>	i thought he was in Belgium
[22:51:23] <fyysik> Korli2 - do you know if haiku IDE bus manager is same as in IDE Replacement Driver? Or Thomas changed something there?
[22:51:33] <mmadia> western US for now.  he's considering moving to EU,  as of last month or so.
[22:52:39] <Korli2> fyysik can't say, at least some code is common to both
[22:53:19] <DaaT> Korli2, he moved back to the US more than a year ago
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[23:02:22] <Procton> geez... Rene moved to the states a year ago or so.
[23:04:39] <Korli2> mmu_man are you in Paris ?
[23:04:45] <DaaT> exactly what i said Procton :)
[23:05:07] <Procton> DaaT: well... duh. I have you on ignore. ;)
[23:05:17] <Korli2> ok
[23:06:44] <@mmu_man> Korli2 non, valence
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[23:07:52] <Korli2> hmm thought from your hostname you were in Tuileries, Paris :)
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[23:10:24] <Procton> _who_ did that!?!
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[23:10:47] <Procton> out of no-where I felt this pain on my cheek.
[23:11:18] <slaad> Heh.
[23:14:20] <@mmu_man> Korli2 wanadoo does not know how to set up DNS
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[23:31:36] <dr_Evil_> who was looking for the Realtek 8169 driver yesterday? I put an update on bebits
[23:32:45] <fyysik> so it is free now?
[23:34:13] <fyysik> nice, will buy some gigabit card at work, have there 2 BeOS installations
[23:36:06] <fyysik> Korli2 - it seems that emuxki change helped for other person who had KDL with it - http://bebits.com/talkback/3209
[23:36:15] <dr_Evil_> its free, was included in zeta since about RC2, and was in haiku cvs since May 2004
[23:36:44] <dr_Evil_> I just hoped that *somebody* who was bitching about that it should be open source would release it
[23:37:15] <fyysik> heh
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[23:49:20] <fyysik> hi AnEvilYak
[23:49:27] <AnEvilYak> heya
[23:49:55] <Korli2> fyysik i read
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