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[13:51:09] <stippi> hi ahwayakchih
[13:51:12] <ahwayakchih> hih>	hi stippi :)
[13:51:17] <[Beta]> lo
[13:51:28] <ahwayakchih> hih>	hi [Beta]
[13:51:47] <JBurton> stippi found the cvs mailing list ?
[13:52:32] <JBurton> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/open-beos-cvs this is the url
[13:52:36] <JBurton> if you're still looking
[13:53:04] <stippi> JBurton: Yes
[13:53:26] <stippi> JBurton: I realised, it was printing the mailing list when I commit stuff
[13:53:47] <CIA-7> stippi * current/src/servers/app/server/Painter/ (5 files): this code is part of the Painter testing framework, and thus doesn't belong here
[13:53:58] <JBurton> stippi :)
[13:55:26] <CIA-7> stippi * current/src/tests/servers/Jamfile: adding the Painter test
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[13:56:45] <CIA-7> stippi * current/src/tests/servers/app/Jamfile: adding the Painter test
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[13:58:54] <CIA-7> stippi * current/src/tests/servers/app/painter/ (5 files): Painter test code
[14:00:18] <matricks> JBurton: oh.. hi
[14:01:33] <JBurton> hi matricks
[14:02:07] <matricks> how is Haiku coming along? I've been abit out of the loop.. there should be a news update I think :)
[14:02:38] <JBurton> matricks we'll have some milestone to announce in short time, I think
[14:02:49] <matricks> the one that I know about? :)
[14:02:55] <JBurton> matricks no :P
[14:02:58] <JBurton> new ones
[14:03:01] <matricks> woot
[14:03:06] <matricks> tell me!
[14:03:07] <matricks> :)
[14:03:09] <JBurton> never :P
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[14:03:37] <matricks> guess I must dig in the cvs logs then
[14:03:46] <[Beta]> matricks: there have been alot of commits in the last few days..
[14:03:51] <matricks> but you haven't even annouced that other thing yet also
[14:04:00] <matricks> [Beta]: goodie
[14:04:09] <[Beta]> no :( 40 logs to read..
[14:04:19] <matricks> not that much
[14:04:25] <matricks> just do a quick scan
[14:05:10] <[Beta]> just over a 1mb; nah, i'm trying to learn the hard way
[14:05:31] <matricks> over 1mb? what?
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[14:07:35] <matricks> JBurton: lots of app_server checkins.. groovie
[14:08:38] <stippi> some here familiar with the build system?
[14:08:38] <matricks> [Beta]: nice :)
[14:08:43] <matricks> jam?
[14:08:57] <stippi> matricks: No, the build system
[14:09:05] <matricks> what build system? :)
[14:09:38] <stippi> matrix, how the Haiku Jamfiles work, specifically, how to make it find headers scattered across the tree.
[14:09:46] <matricks> ok
[14:09:50] <matricks> dunno about that
[14:10:04] <JBurton> stippi hmmm aren't you friend of Ingo :P
[14:10:08] * stippi phones Ingo
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[14:10:56] <JBurton> lol
[14:11:04] <matricks> JBurton: when will you make the announcements? It has been along time since Haiku made anything public
[14:11:07] <JBurton> stippi which headers do you need ?
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[14:11:25] <[Beta]> are we going to push jam as the build system for devs on Haiku r1 (and onwards) ?
[14:11:32] <JBurton> [Beta] I think so
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[14:12:21] <JBurton> matricks don't know, I'm not one of the big heads :P
[14:13:35] <JBurton> stippi I mean, where are the headers you need ?
[14:16:32] <JBurton> stippi ?
[14:16:36] <JBurton> oh I guess he's on the phone
[14:17:14] <@mmu_man> [14:06] * stippi phones Ingo
[14:17:16] <@mmu_man> :p
[14:18:00] <JBurton> yeah, in fact mmu_man :)
[14:18:10] <JBurton> but I thought he was joking actually :)
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[15:08:22] <CIA-6> stippi * current/src/tests/servers/app/painter/Jamfile: it builds the Painter test app, feel free to review it for newbie mistakes
[15:09:55] <CIA-6> stippi * current/src/servers/app/server/PatternHandler.cpp: added some convinience functions to handle rgb_color additionally to RGBColor
[15:10:31] <CIA-6> stippi * current/headers/private/servers/app/PatternHandler.h: added some convinience functions to handle rgb_color additionally to RGBColor
[15:13:30] <CIA-6> stippi * current/src/servers/app/server/Painter/drawing_modes/ (PatternHandler.cpp PatternHandler.h): there can only be one
[15:15:12] <CIA-6> stippi * current/src/servers/app/server/Painter/drawing_modes/ (DrawingModeCopy.h DrawingModeInvert.h DrawingModeOver.h): adopted to different PatternHandler version
[15:16:21] <CIA-6> stippi * current/src/servers/app/server/Painter/drawing_modes/ (DrawingModeAdd.h DrawingModeFactory.cpp): new B_OP_ADD drawing mode
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[15:18:23] <WindowsUninstall> Hello *
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[15:23:27] <CIA-6> stippi * current/src/servers/app/server/Painter/makefile: now integrated with Haiku build system, so no more need for this
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[15:26:09] <JBurton> stippi hey, slow down, you're filling my mail folder :P
[15:26:21] <stippi> JBurton: No way.
[15:26:39] <JBurton> stippi :)
[15:26:52] <JBurton> glad to see you working there :)
[15:27:27] <CIA-6> stippi * current/src/servers/app/server/Painter/Painter.cpp: adopted for different PatternHandler version
[15:27:31] <stippi> JBurton: I wouldn't exactly call it working
[15:27:49] <stippi> JBurton: because I'm only ingegrating what I had previously been working on.
[15:28:49] <JBurton> ah, ok
[15:28:59] <stippi> Ok, I think I'm done. Running cvs diff now on the entire tree to see if I missed anything.
[15:30:39] <JBurton> at least you seem to know what you're doing, unlike some other people (cough.. me :P)
[15:31:21] <stippi> why?
[15:31:43] <stippi> I mean, why do you think you don't know what you're doing.
[15:31:59] <stippi> I actually did phone Ingo, and then I knew what I should be doing... :-)
[15:32:08] <JBurton> eheh
[15:32:25] <JBurton> well, my way of doing things is more hacking than programming
[15:32:52] <stippi> JBurton: And what makes you think I work any different?
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[15:33:18] <stippi> In Germany, we have a saying: "Don't put your light under the table"
[15:33:30] <stippi> Don't know if it makes sense in English...
[15:34:15] <stippi> JBurton: I'm certain your work is much appreciated, in fact, it is immediately useful. I can probably use your work on BMenu and friends in WonderBrush, because there is a shortcomming in the original design.
[15:36:41] <JBurton> stippi I hope so, though my BMenu isn't yet fully working :P
[15:36:50] <JBurton> thanks for the appreciation, btw :P
[15:37:03] <JBurton> which shortcoming ?
[15:37:05] <stippi> JBurton: At least your working on it and contributing. That's all that counts.
[15:37:10] <JBurton> yeah :)
[15:37:27] <stippi> JBurton: Well, in WonderBrush, you might have noticed the font popup menu.
[15:37:34] <JBurton> yup
[15:38:15] <stippi> JBurton: I cannot really make sure the currently selected font appears under the mouse when you open the popup, since BMenu prevents from being partially shown outside of the screen.
[15:38:37] <JBurton> ahh, yes I see
[15:38:39] <stippi> JBurton: You know how BMenus get to be scrollable when they don't fit within the screen?
[15:38:55] <JBurton> have yet to research this, actually
[15:39:06] <JBurton> though what I know is that BMenus are attached to a custom BWindow subclass
[15:39:07] <stippi> JBurton: I would have loved for this feature to be triggered when the menu is moved out of the screen by me intentionally.
[15:39:18] <JBurton> oic
[15:39:35] <JBurton> yes, ahwayakchih asked me the same thing
[15:39:59] <stippi> JBurton: recently? Maybe because he and I were talking about this quite a lot...
[15:40:05] <JBurton> today, actually :)
[15:40:08] <stippi> heh
[15:40:11] <ahwayakchih> :)
[15:40:14] <stippi> :-)
[15:40:26] <ahwayakchih> hmmnot today... yestarday i think
[15:40:44] <JBurton> ah yes, could be ahwayakchih :P
[15:41:07] <stippi> JBurton: have you compiled Painter before?
[15:41:28] <JBurton> not yet, stippi, actually it's been a while since I used my beos boxx
[15:41:29] <JBurton> box
[15:41:37] <JBurton> lately I've developed under VPC
[15:41:39] <JBurton> under win32
[15:42:00] <stippi> the diff is done, seems like I didn't forget anything.
[15:42:06] <stippi> Ok, now I can work again.
[15:42:15] <JBurton> go ! Gooo!
[15:42:17] <JBurton> ^_^
[15:42:32] <ahwayakchih> heh
[15:42:33] <JBurton> will you also start integrating it to the app server ?
[15:42:34] <stippi> I mean, real work, JBurton: like implementing more drawing modes...
[15:42:36] <JBurton> ah ok
[15:42:41] <stippi> JBurton: No, not yet.
[15:42:50] <JBurton> you'll finish it first then :P
[15:43:05] <stippi> JBurton: I have not even managed to compile app_server and its test app.
[15:43:30] <stippi> JBurton: I kind of dislike how app_server is not really integrated with the Haiku build system.
[15:43:39] <stippi> Or so it seems.
[15:44:03] <JBurton> stippi that's because the developers used to build it with a beide project, I think
[15:44:12] <JBurton> actually I do that too, usually, with my subprojects
[15:44:22] <stippi> JBurton: Yeah, I figured, but does it have to be like this?
[15:44:25] <JBurton> but then I reintegrate them into the build system
[15:44:33] <ahwayakchih> have to go
[15:44:36] <JBurton> stippi dunno, maybe because it's simpler for them
[15:44:37] <stippi> JBurton: It makes sense to integrate tests-
[15:44:38] <JBurton> ahwayakchih see ya
[15:44:39] <ahwayakchih> cya JBurton stippi
[15:44:40] <stippi> bye ahwayakchih
[15:44:41] <JBurton> stippi yup
[15:44:43] <ahwayakchih> cya
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[15:45:52] <stippi> JBurton: I think it makes it unnecessarily hard to get an overview of app_server for new devs like me.
[15:46:33] <JBurton> stippi yeah, I agree
[15:46:36] <stippi> I would like to cd into the tests/servers/app and just launch that thing.
[15:46:46] <JBurton> maybe it's also one of the reasons why it hasn't attracted many devs
[15:46:53] <stippi> maybe
[15:47:48] <stippi> It's not easy to see where things are missing. DarkWyrm is helpful and explains things, but that is distracting him from work.
[15:48:29] <JBurton> I see
[15:48:39] <stippi> It's part of the reason why I simply started a separate framework to mimic BView drawing, instead of trying to fill that right into app_server-
[15:49:04] <JBurton> brb in 10 minutes, sorry stippi
[15:49:07] <stippi> np
[15:55:02] <CIA-6> stippi * current/src/servers/app/server/Painter/README: updated info
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[16:06:34] <JBurton> re
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[16:23:08] <CIA-6> stippi * current/src/servers/app/server/Painter/Painter.cpp: line profile is now cached by being a member of Painter, as was suggested by Maxim, it's too heavy an object for being created on the fly
[16:23:42] <CIA-6> stippi * current/headers/private/servers/app/Painter.h: line profile is now cached by being a member of Painter, as was suggested by Maxim, it's too heavy an object for being created on the fly
[16:24:09] <JBurton> maxim is agg's author ?
[16:24:14] <stippi> JBurton: yes
[16:24:28] <JBurton> ok, thought so
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[16:25:53] <brennanOS> Hi all
[16:27:05] <JBurton> hi brennanOS
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[16:28:07] <brennanOS> Hi
[16:28:25] <brennanOS> I cant seem to get the makehdimage script in ../current to build me a Bochs HD image
[16:30:32] <JBurton> what happens ?
[16:30:38] <JBurton> do you have UserlandFS ?
[16:31:40] <brennanOS> yeah, I installed that... it just doesnt create the image
[16:32:06] <brennanOS> It goes through the motions, links everything it wants to link and it LOOKS like it works, but no image
[16:33:21] <JBurton> hmmmm
[16:33:27] <JBurton> no error message ?
[16:33:54] <JBurton> I used to get some error when UFS tried to mount the image
[16:33:56] <JBurton> some time ago
[16:33:59] <JBurton> didn't try lately
[16:35:12] <JBurton> if you look at the current folder after the process....
[16:35:24] <JBurton> is it full of binary files ?
[16:36:29] <brennanOS> no
[16:36:42] <brennanOS> Let me boot up my laptop and give it a whirl again here
[16:37:21] <JBurton> btw the build was broken till... yesterday or some hours ago
[16:37:28] <brennanOS> hm
[16:37:31] <JBurton> so you'd better be current with the repository
[16:37:33] <brennanOS> so a CVS update is in order
[16:38:25] <JBurton> yeah
[16:40:22] <brennanOS> well, lets hope this works... sourceforge is pretty flakey
[16:42:13] <JBurton> yup it is
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[16:45:29] <brennanOS> I do get a bunch of No such file or directory, while the build process is looking for Jamfiles
[16:45:40] <brennanOS> Is that normal?
[16:46:02] <JBurton> it's not
[16:46:14] <JBurton> uh wait
[16:46:17] <JBurton> about media kit ?
[16:46:27] <JBurton> I remember one or two which were normal
[16:47:59] <brennanOS> I had maybe 30 or 40
[16:48:08] <JBurton> oh
[16:48:11] <JBurton> weird
[16:48:15] <JBurton> hmmm
[16:48:24] <JBurton> what's your commandline for a cvs update ?
[16:48:54] <brennanOS> cvs -q update
[16:49:00] <JBurton> -q ?
[16:49:09] <JBurton> anyway, you need to use -d -P also
[16:49:20] <JBurton> because otherwise you don't get new directories
[16:49:25] <brennanOS> oh
[16:49:31] <JBurton> (-d creates new directories)
[16:49:33] <brennanOS> well, that would make a difference eh
[16:49:38] <JBurton> (-P deletes old ones)
[16:49:45] <JBurton> if needed, of course
[16:50:16] <brennanOS> what pathname does -P need?
[16:50:50] <JBurton> nothing
[16:50:59] <JBurton> you just cvs -q -d -P update
[16:51:10] <JBurton> or -qdP
[16:51:16] <JBurton> btw, what's -q ?
[16:51:24] <brennanOS> CVSROOT: -P must be an absolute pathname
[16:51:31] <brennanOS> quiet
[16:51:46] <JBurton> hmmm
[16:52:14] <JBurton> wait a sec
[16:52:56] <brennanOS> -d just overrides the $CVSROOT variable
[16:53:58] <JBurton> ah, sorry
[16:54:03] <JBurton> it's cvs update -d -P
[16:54:13] <JBurton> those two stuff needs to go after the command
[16:54:40] <brennanOS> ah
[16:56:52] <brennanOS> hm, yeah, that makes a big difference
[16:57:02] <JBurton> eheh
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[17:16:15] <JBurton> leaving
[17:16:16] <JBurton> bye all
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[17:40:31] <fyy__> heh, it seems there are more people here than at BeShare
[17:41:19] <mmadia> less linux talk here.
[17:42:09] <brennanOS> so, I was working on Linux yesterday
[17:48:03] <w-ber> omg, brennanOS just killed the conversation! You bastard!
[17:49:06] <brennanOS> hehe
[17:49:08] <brennanOS> sorry
[17:49:30] <w-ber> lol
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[17:58:52] <mmadia> has anyone luck building and using the input_server recently?
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[20:28:57] <fyy__> got idea of screenaver "Real Job Matrix"
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[20:42:35] <adioanca> !seen rudolfc
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[20:43:10] <adioanca> (service not available) :-)
[20:43:50] <AnEvilYak> /ns info rudolfc would be able to tell you that
[20:43:54] <AnEvilYak> except he doesn't have that name registered
[20:43:56] <AnEvilYak> so it can't track him
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[20:54:20] * Karina`` waves to Rene
[20:55:38] * AnEvilYak pets Karina``
[20:56:14] <Karina``> how's life treating you hon?
[20:56:51] <AnEvilYak> sleepy
[20:56:51] <AnEvilYak> you?
[20:57:21] <Karina``> much the same actually
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[20:57:34] <Karina``> sleepy but not wanting to sleep
[20:57:47] <Karina``> stupid insomnia
[20:58:06] <AnEvilYak> well
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[20:58:11] <AnEvilYak> more like no choice atm since I need to work ;p
[20:58:14] <Karina``> if I lay down I'll just stare at the ceiling for the next few hours
[20:58:17] <Karina``> bummer
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[21:07:24] <brennanOS> It would be great if I could figure out why makehdimage wont make an image for me
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[21:44:44] <fyy__> what is stdint.h replacement in BeOS ?
[21:46:40] <@mmu_man> inttypes.h
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[21:49:18] <fyy__> thanks mmu_man
[21:49:40] <fyy__> IIRC Dano has stdint.h or?
[21:51:17] <@mmu_man> /boot/beos/etc/develop/zeta-r1-gcc2-x86/headers/kjs/stdint.h
[21:51:18] <@mmu_man> /boot/beos/etc/develop/zeta-r1-gcc2-x86/headers/posix/stdint.h
[21:51:24] <@mmu_man> dunno about dano
[21:52:04] <brennanOS> let me see
[21:52:24] <@mmu_man> oh crap
[21:52:31] <@mmu_man> Dano's images aren't idnexed
[21:52:31] <brennanOS> doesnt look like it
[21:52:41] <fyy__> such stupid thinks break mozilla/FF building everytime
[21:52:44] <@mmu_man> its not in
[21:53:39] <@mmu_man> AC_CHECK_HEADERS(stdint.h inttypes.h)
[21:54:17] <fyy__> #ifdef HAVE_STDINT_H #include <stdint.h> #endif and this is pain to introduce #ifdef BeOS every time when someone makes quilte logical assumption
[21:57:34] <@mmu_man> nothing about beos
[21:57:43] <@mmu_man> just about platforms having those headers or not
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[22:06:02] <Lebuzzer> Procton
[22:06:05] <Lebuzzer> ProctonW
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[22:08:59] <@mmu_man> wtf
[22:09:10] <@mmu_man> BlockSize->512, 512
[22:09:11] <@mmu_man> ???
[22:09:23] <@mmu_man> this diskprobe is broken :)
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[23:03:05] <[Beta]> HMM
[23:03:23] <[Beta]> nathanw: how come some of your address doesnt compress to :: ?
[23:03:56] <[Beta]> I mean, I would've thought it would show the brief v. (~nathanw@2002:8087:d610:0:0:0:0:1) has joined #haiku
[23:04:09] <nathanw> It should
[23:04:20] <nathanw> FreeNode's IPv6 support is weird, though
[23:04:45] <[Beta]> 'least its got it.
[23:04:51] <nathanw> That's true
[23:06:38] <nathanw> We does to make sure Haiku does, too
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[23:12:51] <fyy__> damn.plain mozilla built from cvs is fantastically SLOWWW
[23:13:24] <fyy__> and they add ton of crap for little bit of coolness - e.g. to show OS icons for files
[23:13:54] <fyy__> coolness is devil's temptation, straight way to bloatware
[23:14:02] <agentmumu> is firefox not enough?
[23:14:14] <agentmumu> or do you have to build mozilla to build firefox
[23:14:14] <fyy__> Mozilla == Firefox
[23:14:25] <agentmumu> ic
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[23:14:29] <[Beta]> fyy__: can you just build DOM Inspector ?
[23:14:45] <fyy__> never investigated
[23:14:50] <[Beta]> Firefox lacks one or two things I need :(
[23:16:31] <fyy__> ?
[23:19:17] <MikeW> what do you miss from mozilla?
[23:20:11] <[Beta]> firefox comes w/ DOM inspector ?
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[23:24:26] <[Beta]> "optional" oo, neat.
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[23:32:00] <brennanOS> The latest build won't boot :(
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[23:33:36] <Hoern> hi
[23:35:42] <mmadia> hello Hoern
[23:36:25] <tic> hi Hoern! long time no see
[23:36:39] <Hoern> tic: yep :-))  just foun here :)
[23:37:23] <tic> ahh.
[23:37:25] <tic> hehe.
[23:37:30] <Hoern> tic: seems the community changed to yet another server - quite full here :-)
[23:37:39] <tic> Hoern, yap. you were still on efnet?
[23:38:01] <Hoern> tic: just sometimes - still in ircnet
[23:38:11] <tic> ah. freenode's slightly more populated.
[23:38:16] <tic> also, check out #beclan and #beosimkit
[23:38:18] <Hoern> tic: I wonder if axeld is here too
[23:38:24] <tic> yeah, he is, just not right now.
[23:38:30] <tic> rudolfc, axeld, mphipps, etc.
[23:38:57] <Hoern> tic: have some questions regarding opentracker :)
[23:39:42] <tic> Ah.
[23:39:46] <tic> yeah, axeld's has a finger in everything :)
[23:39:54] <Hoern> *g*
[23:40:03] <brennanOS> has anyone tried booting the latest Haiku build?
[23:41:15] <CIA-10> mmu_man * current/src/apps/bin/ (listimage.c listarea.c): handle pseudo-team 1 in listimage as well; (pets Axel) addr_t is nice but that ain't compile in R5; added search by team name in listarea as well
[23:43:33] <@mmu_man> zzz
[23:43:54] <brennanOS> So, I guess that's a no?
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[23:45:19] <brennanOS> Am I on /ignore here, or what?
[23:45:26] <@mmu_man> ...
[23:45:32] <@mmu_man> it's really quiet here
[23:45:58] * AnEvilYak hears cricets chirping
[23:46:01] <AnEvilYak> er crickets too
[23:46:17] <brennanOS> well, if anyone tries to boot Haiku, it wont boot
[23:46:50] <@mmu_man> has anyone tried booting the latest Haiku build?
[23:47:22] <brennanOS> hmmm... yeah, I just asked that question
[23:47:42] <tic> ohh, cricket! let's play some
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[23:50:54] <tic> eepu
[23:51:08] <tic> oww, so /that's/ where my headache came from?
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[23:55:06] <tic> Anyone given any thought to porting Haiku to Xen?
[23:57:37] <CIA-10> stippi * current/src/servers/app/server/Painter/Painter.cpp:
[23:57:38] <CIA-10> Maybe I have actually nailed bitmap scaling, though I would think that the BView
[23:57:38] <CIA-10> implementation doesn't exactly follow the Be Book. Could be I'm overlooking
[23:57:38] <CIA-10> something. Anyways, Painter seems to behave like the original now. The previous
[23:57:38] <CIA-10> revision had a compile error too for aliased drawing.





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