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[00:02:44] <Lt_Henry> Im reading the SDL 1.2.8 changelog, but I can't undestand this:
[00:02:45] <Lt_Henry> 1.2.8: Added missing window manager and OpenGL functions on BeOS
[00:03:15] <Lt_Henry> can someone explain it, please?
[00:03:19] <Lt_Henry> :|
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[00:08:36] <@AndrewBachmann> what's to explain?
[00:09:31] <Lt_Henry> what window manager refers to?
[00:10:15] <Lt_Henry> and... what OpenGL functions ?
[00:10:34] <@mmu_man> window manager = things ilke clos the window, move to, resize by ???
[00:10:43] <@mmu_man> s/???/.../
[00:11:06] <Lt_Henry> perhaps...
[00:11:31] <@AndrewBachmann> thing that manages windows :-)
[00:12:40] <Lt_Henry> seems to be talking about those WM events (close, resize...)
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[00:18:17] <Lt_Henry> anyway... I'll see the answer in dreams
[00:18:19] <Lt_Henry> good night
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[00:58:12] <Dr_Evil_> uhh ohh: http://www.elug.de/projekte/patent-party/patente/
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[01:22:43] <GNUStep_Me> Does anybody testing the NetworkKit from Haiku?
[01:23:04] <GNUStep_Me> What is missing for real work?
[01:23:29] * GNUStep_Me no one?
[01:23:29] <mmadia> ppp support.
[01:23:47] <GNUStep_Me> ok ppp support, means a pppd daemon is missing...
[01:24:12] <mmadia> sorry, by ppp  i meant dialup :-)
[01:24:16] <GNUStep_Me> mmadia, normal network works ok?
[01:24:55] <GNUStep_Me> the current haiku build fails on arp. other things seams to build...
[01:24:57] <mmadia> yes, to what extent as far as performance and stability, i dont know.
[01:26:16] <GNUStep_Me> If I realy understand without ppp it works an local networks, corrent me if I'm wrong (unstable/stable)
[01:27:01] <GNUStep_Me> hm.
[01:29:44] <GNUStep_Me> I see pppoe and modem in userland?
[01:29:51] <mmadia> NIC support is there,  allowing a person to connect to LAN's and WANs ( eg, internet)
[01:30:18] <mumu25> does the network stack already run on haiku?
[01:30:28] <mmadia> it doesn't ( or at least not that i know of) support dialup connections --  dialup modems
[01:31:09] <GNUStep_Me> if the stack is bsd compatible a pppd is the need of.
[01:31:19] <GNUStep_Me> right mmadia.
[01:31:22] <GNUStep_Me> ?
[01:31:32] * mmadia shrugs.
[01:32:15] <GNUStep_Me> pppoe/modem is only the protocol as I see, not shure I look at the source for a second...
[01:32:49] <Dr_Evil_> there is kernel pppd support
[01:33:15] <Dr_Evil_> or the other way: there is no pppd, it's in the kernel
[01:35:45] <GNUStep_Me> Dr_Evil_ I think I saw the pppoe protocol support, that means a pppd must be ported to make dialup possible for modem/pppoe...
[01:36:30] <Dr_Evil_> there is no pppd, it's in the kernel
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[01:37:26] <GNUStep_Me> Dr_Evil_, are we able to use it?
[01:44:19] <GNUStep_Me> Dr_Evil_?
[01:44:54] <GNUStep_Me> Ok, why there are headers and modem/pppoe in userland?
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[01:46:10] <CIA-5> bonefish * current/src/servers/registrar/ (7 files):
[01:46:10] <CIA-5> Replace ClipboardTree by Clipboard, a class just representing a clipboard.
[01:46:10] <CIA-5> The clipboards are managed in a simple string->Clipboard map.
[01:48:53] <CIA-5> bonefish * current/src/tests/kits/app/bclipboard/CountTester.cpp:
[01:48:53] <CIA-5> * When run more than one time, the tests the increment the clipboard count
[01:48:53] <CIA-5> didn't pass anymore. Now we check only the difference, not for absolute
[01:48:53] <CIA-5> values.
[01:48:53] <CIA-5> * Fixed the style.
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[01:50:40] <CIA-5> bonefish * current/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Use new init_clipboard() function which initializes the global be_clipboard at libbe init time.
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[01:54:15] <CIA-5> bonefish * current/ (headers/os/app/Clipboard.h src/kits/app/Clipboard.cpp):
[01:54:15] <CIA-5> * Got rid of the BClipboard::fCount. It was modified, but never read.
[01:54:15] <CIA-5> Renamed fSystemCount to fCount.
[01:54:15] <CIA-5> * be_clipboard is now initialized by init_clipboard().
[01:54:15] <CIA-5> * Documented at least {Local,System}Count(), since their meaning wasn't
[01:54:16] <CIA-5> very obvious to me (neither helped the BeBook description).
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[01:59:07] <mmadia> is there an RSS or RDF feed for haiku's cvs commits?
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[02:10:04] <mumu25> mmadia: http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/OpenBeOS/.rss
[02:10:32] <mmadia> thanks mumu25 !
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[07:01:15] <SeaForth> oooh, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4607&item=5156712683&rd=1
[07:01:37] <SeaForth> nice little PPC beos system for those in love with the aforementioned.
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[07:52:21] <@geist> cute
[07:54:56] <@voidref> those red v blue videos are hilarious
[07:54:57] <@voidref> http://www.redvsblue.com/archive/
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[08:19:59] <SeaForth> voidref, yah, those are fairly funny, mostly funny fun funny.
[08:20:03] <SeaForth> hahah
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[08:44:23] <Bernd> hi
[08:44:27] <Bernd> hi NathanW
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[08:45:49] <tic> good morning Bernd
[08:46:01] <Bernd> morning
[08:46:13] <Bernd> good? will tell you in the afternoon :-)
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[08:46:19] <tic> Heh.
[08:46:21] <tic> why so?
[08:46:38] <Bernd> dont know yet :)
[08:47:09] <tic> heh
[08:47:28] <tic> hm, breakfast perhaps..
[08:48:15] <kr1stof> Most important for me is a tripple espresso first. ;-)
[08:48:30] <mmadia> Bernd is there anything we can do to help you get the open-source stuff publically accessible?  http://www.david-reid.com/cynic/index.php?p=123
[08:48:52] <kr1stof> Noone is allowed to talk to me before. ;-))
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[08:54:25] <JBurton> hi
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[08:58:02] <mmadia> hi JBurton
[08:58:16] <JBurton> hey mmu_man
[08:58:17] <JBurton> er
[08:58:18] <JBurton> doh
[08:58:19] <JBurton> mmadia
[09:00:54] <@mmu_man> hi anyway
[09:01:28] <tic> goooooood morning mmu_man
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[09:05:37] <tic> hei Greyhawk_Dragon
[09:05:43] <Greyhawk_Dragon> :-)
[09:05:45] <Greyhawk_Dragon> Hallo!
[09:05:54] <@AndrewBachmann> hello folks
[09:05:58] <@AndrewBachmann> hi Bernd
[09:06:04] <@AndrewBachmann> geist, mmu_man, etc
[09:06:21] 
[09:06:30] 
[09:06:36] 
[09:06:52] <Bernd> hi
[09:07:03] <Greyhawk_Dragon> lol
[09:07:08] <Greyhawk_Dragon> Hey!
[09:07:29] * tic wishes for an app_server that let apps know when screen draws happened, so one could have a fast VNC server...
[09:10:19] <JBurton> mmu_man sure, hi anyway :)
[09:10:39] <JBurton> and sorry for the delay :P
[09:11:06] <JBurton> tic someting like BWindow::SubscribeToRedrawEvents() ? ;P
[09:11:14] <JBurton> or BScreen, even
[09:11:14] <tic> JBurton, yah.
[09:11:23] <tic> mhm, BScreen would probably be the right one.
[09:11:26] <JBurton> yeah
[09:11:26] <tic> it'd totally rule.
[09:11:31] <tic> I mean, just getting a BRect() would be enough.
[09:11:35] <JBurton> yup
[09:11:41] * Bernd pets cscope
[09:11:44] <tic> it'd be total sweetness. imagine the speed.
[09:11:48] <tic> Bernd, what's cscope?
[09:12:07] <Bernd> check sf
[09:12:27] <JBurton> http://cscope.sourceforge.net/
[09:12:31] <Bernd> yep
[09:12:37] <Bernd> works like charme
[09:12:54] <JBurton> C only, I guess
[09:12:55] <Bernd> mmu_man did you test it?
[09:13:00] <Bernd> JBurton yes
[09:13:06] <JBurton> hence the name... heh
[09:13:19] <Bernd> but you can also enhance it too c++
[09:13:47] <tic> ah. problem is I don't code in C or C++ :)
[09:13:51] <tic> (or at least try not to)
[09:14:08] <@AndrewBachmann> hello JB
[09:14:12] <JBurton> hi AndrewBachmann
[09:14:18] <@mmu_man> not yet
[09:14:21] <@AndrewBachmann> going to China in 12 hours
[09:14:28] <tic> coolio. found a laptop?
[09:14:32] <Bernd> AndrewBachmann i am at 19 of February
[09:14:35] <Bernd> ro Bejing
[09:14:41] <tic> Bernd, leisure trip?
[09:14:44] <@AndrewBachmann> I'll be leaving feb 18
[09:15:00] <JBurton> AndrewBachmann oh, nice
[09:15:04] <JBurton> AndrewBachmann have a good trip
[09:15:24] <JBurton> same to you Bernd
[09:15:32] <Bernd> JBurton well i leave tonight to USA :(
[09:15:48] <tic> Bernd, is that a bad thing?
[09:15:50] <Bernd> i am not happy with that
[09:15:53] <tic> why?
[09:15:54] <Bernd> tic well for 3 weeks
[09:16:03] <tic> Bernd, yeah, and?
[09:16:04] <Bernd> and my youngest son is 4 months old
[09:16:10] <Bernd> so 3 weeks is a LONG time
[09:16:12] <tic> Ahh.. You don't want to be without him.
[09:16:14] <tic> *nod*
[09:16:15] <Bernd> yes
[09:16:24] <Bernd> i will lose a lot of things he will learn in that time
[09:16:30] <tic> so, bring him along? just gzip him and put him in your pocket.
[09:16:34] <Bernd> haha
[09:16:39] <Bernd> he is only 64 cm's
[09:16:47] <Bernd> so i do not need tp zip him :)
[09:17:21] <tic> coolio
[09:17:32] <tic> what's happening in the US, except for meeting up with voidy?
[09:18:15] <Bernd> voidy :)
[09:18:35] <JBurton> have him move to Deutschland :P
[09:18:44] <Bernd> he will
[09:18:45] <tic> Bernd, only meeting up with him?
[09:18:46] <Bernd> in March
[09:18:49] <tic> ohh!
[09:18:50] <tic> coolness.
[09:18:52] <Bernd> yep
[09:19:00] <tic> then he'll definitely attend BG, I suppose?
[09:19:44] <Bernd> yes i thnk so :)
[09:20:03] <tic> nice nice.
[09:20:11] <tic> hope I have time & money to attend as well..
[09:20:43] <tic> So, you're only meeting up with Alan during the three weeks? :)
[09:22:25] <Bernd> :)
[09:22:36] <Bernd> america is SO huge
[09:22:46] <Bernd> and there are 380B people?
[09:22:59] <tic> not 380B. M.
[09:26:27] <@AndrewBachmann> not 380M yet
[09:26:35] <@AndrewBachmann> more like 300-330
[09:27:27] <Bernd> ok
[09:27:33] <Bernd> so anway enough to visit :)
[09:28:12] <tic> heh.
[09:28:13] <@AndrewBachmann> china and the united states are roughly the same size
[09:28:21] <Bernd> yes
[09:28:25] <tic> not in population, though.
[09:28:28] <@AndrewBachmann> although china has a lot more people, and the US has a lot more arable land
[09:28:29] <Bernd> so 4 times more people
[09:28:39] <tic> time to pick up the laundry...
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[09:41:07] <CIA-5> jackburton * current/src/kits/interface/PopUpMenu.cpp: Added a clarifying comment.
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[09:43:01] <JBurton> hi Methe, Korli
[09:44:00] <Methe> kikoooooo JBurton & Korli & Haiku peeps
[09:46:06] <@Korli> hi JBurton
[09:46:57] <@Korli> JBurton i won't be online next week, just you to know
[09:48:31] <JBurton> Korli ok
[09:50:54] <JBurton> brb
[09:51:06] <CIA-5> jackburton * current/src/kits/interface/Menu.cpp: A BMenuItem couldn't be removed and then added back to a BMenu: Fixed.
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[18:40:58] <fyysik> TuneTracker - are you on BeShare? potential buyer there:)
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[19:08:08] <w-ber> hey, what's this?
[19:08:21] <w-ber> MPlayer 1.0pre6 has a line in changelog saying it has a mostly working support for ZetaOS
[19:08:21] <tic> which?
[19:08:27] <tic> !!
[19:08:37] <w-ber> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html
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[19:09:05] <tic> Heh. so it's called ZetaOS now? :)
[19:09:09] <tic> tja tqh!
[19:09:14] <[Beta]> heh
[19:09:27] <tic> w-ber, think it's dependant on mmap.
[19:09:42] <w-ber> hmm?
[19:09:55] <tic> "mostly working", because of no mmap().
[19:10:15] <tqh> tja
[19:10:32] <w-ber> oh
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[19:17:00] <w-ber> http://www.string-emil.de
[19:18:06] <tic> bwhdahaha :)
[19:18:28] <[Beta]> ick!
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[19:19:47] <w-ber> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/images/shot-Zeta-01.png
[19:19:53] <w-ber> there's the one
[19:20:19] <w-ber> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/images/shot27.jpg
[19:21:07] <tic> nice!
[19:21:13] <GNUStep_Me> What do I need to compile it w-ber
[19:21:44] <w-ber> no idea
[19:21:58] <w-ber> the newest 1.0pre6 might be supported out of the box
[19:22:04] <w-ber> I'd guess at least SDL is needed
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[19:46:39] <Procton> hmm.. I hope their not talking about Zeta support in mplayer with SDL... that has worked for a long time already.
[19:48:21] <GNUStep_Me> no, got the current source here....
[19:48:54] <tic> GNUStep_Me, what is it then?
[19:49:04] <tic> BDirectWindow with BView fallback?
[19:49:46] <GNUStep_Me> No, I wann compile it an got diffrent problems....
[19:51:00] <mumu25> for the hard guys (and only for the hard guys): http://daemlich.net/4252
[19:52:47] <GNUStep_Me> mumu25, ugly
[19:54:24] <mumu25> yes
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[19:57:35] <Dr_Evil_> ohhh. a great patent, swinging on a swing: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6368227.WKU.&OS=PN/6368227&RS=PN/6368227
[19:57:38] <Dr_Evil_> sooo innovative
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[20:00:09] <AnEvilYak> old one
[20:00:39] <Dr_Evil_> lol
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[22:49:25] <Lt_Henry> hi
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[22:51:10] <Lt_Henry> the apm driver does not support my board, is there any option to power the system off ?
[22:52:16] <lizdeika> power button ?
[22:52:40] * DaaT applauds
[22:52:41] <DaaT> :)
[22:52:55] <Lt_Henry> I have a problem shutting down the system using the button
[22:53:02] <lizdeika> oh
[22:53:18] <DaaT> pull the cord?
[22:54:40] <Lt_Henry> my usb keyboard dows not work, if the system was powered off by hand
[22:55:05] <lizdeika> O_O
[22:55:13] <Lt_Henry> yeah, strange
[22:55:13] <lizdeika> now thats one problematic pc
[22:55:45] <Lt_Henry> but only happens with BeOS
[22:56:15] <DaaT> had to be... humph
[22:56:16] <DaaT> :)
[22:56:26] <Lt_Henry> I have to unplug the keyboard, and plug again
[22:57:22] <[Beta]> could you use 'hey' ?
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[22:58:27] <tic> yo slaadster.
[22:58:33] <tic> slaad, good morning, I assume?
[22:58:37] * tic is just about to hit the sack
[22:58:58] <DaaT> hi slaad
[23:02:26] <slaad> Yip
[23:02:27] <slaad> Hey DaaT
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[23:07:12] <CIA-5> bonefish * current/src/kits/storage/ (Directory.cpp Entry.cpp File.cpp Node.cpp Query.cpp): All internally used FDs are now set to O_CLOEXEC.
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[23:46:48] * ShackaN ascolta i massive attack : smalltime shot away
[23:48:56] <@geist> well okay then
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[23:52:46] <slaad> And don't you forget it, geist!
[23:53:04] <@geist> yeah
[23:53:08] <@geist> better not





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