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[00:22:14] * Dr3w cheeers at winning a new external hard disk...
[00:22:30] <Dr3w> 20Mb in size.
[00:23:24] <slaad> ...
[00:25:24] <Fanskapet> salad!
[00:25:35] <slaad> Fanska!
[00:26:05] <Fanskapet> what's up big guy?
[00:26:15] <slaad> I'm actually a little guy...
[00:26:27] <[Beta]> har har
[00:26:27] <slaad> Not much though. Just working on the template class for WebIM a little.
[00:27:03] <slaad> No, really. I am. I'm 55kg, [Beta] :P
[00:27:07] <Fanskapet> ahh okey nice.. that webgui for im_kit i presume?
[00:27:18] <slaad> Yup.
[00:27:28] <Fanskapet> ahh.. even lighter than me :) i weight about 67kg
[00:27:44] <slaad> How tall are you, Fanskapet?
[00:27:51] <Fanskapet> 179
[00:28:00] * DaaT is 70Kg and 1.89
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[00:28:20] <slaad> Yeah, I'm about 178ish also.
[00:28:21] <Fanskapet> although, my weight is just muscles also.. remember that :)
[00:29:08] <slaad> Haha.
[00:29:11] <slaad> Mines bones!
[00:29:30] <Fanskapet> :)
[00:29:39] <[Beta]> i'm only about 65kg, then. just under 1.9 metres
[00:29:59] <Fanskapet> ahh well you can code :) then muscles isn't needed very much :)
[00:30:06] <Dr3w> I am 55Kg and 2.6 meters.
[00:30:07] <[Beta]> anyone here used eudoraToBeMail ?
[00:30:13] <DaaT> [Beta], you're even more thin than I am... wow
[00:30:14] <DaaT> :P
[00:30:15] <[Beta]> 2.6 metres? LOL
[00:30:23] <Fanskapet> i can't do "real" coding like C so i need something else instead of that knowledge :)
[00:30:27] <Dr3w> My arms a 1 meter long each.
[00:30:30] <[Beta]> i'm a skiny runt, thats for sure.
[00:30:57] <slaad> Hehe
[00:31:09] * tic is 70 kg, 1.76, all muscle. :P
[00:31:17] <Fanskapet> ahh.. should get my final answer from SweINT about kosovo this month.. hummz
[00:31:18] <DaaT> :)
[00:31:21] <DaaT> i'm big boned
[00:31:22] <Dr3w> my legs are only 200cm though.
[00:32:17] <tic> and my biceps are 34 cm around, if I flex them.</useless facts>
[00:33:48] <Dr3w> I don't have biceps.
[00:34:40] <tic> yay. :P
[00:35:00] <Fanskapet> tic wasn't you supposed to goto bed ? :)
[00:35:11] <tic> Fanskapet, yes I was.  I'm getting up in <6 hours.
[00:35:16] <Fanskapet> agh
[00:35:18] <Fanskapet> yuck
[00:35:32] <tic> yeah.  although I _could_ get up later, but then I'd have to stay at work for so long. :)
[00:35:38] <tic> I'd rather leave at 16
[00:36:09] 
[00:37:31] <Fanskapet> ahh okey :)
[00:38:37] <tic> where are you from? I forgot.
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[00:39:08] <Dr3w> Get your rocks off.
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[00:40:27] <Fanskapet> tic, Arboga :)
[00:40:42] <tic> right.  so then you have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about. :9
[00:40:47] <Fanskapet> the ghetto of sweden, where you live to die another day :)
[00:41:01] <Fanskapet> tic, exactly :)
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[00:51:58] <tic> *Zzz*
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[01:55:23] <CIA-6> axeld * current/src/kernel/core/cache/file_cache.cpp:
[01:55:23] <CIA-6> cache_module_info::node_opened() was called with the wrong argument order.
[01:55:23] <CIA-6> Added generic syscall to control the cache. Right now, only setting/removing
[01:55:23] <CIA-6> cache modules is implemented.
[01:57:04] <CIA-6> axeld * current/headers/private/kernel/file_cache.h:
[01:57:04] <CIA-6> Added some definitions for the generic syscalls. Cache modules should currently
[01:57:04] <CIA-6> be located in the "file_cache" directory - this might or might be changed later.
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[02:10:52] <fyysik> Dr_Evil - there are some globals in emuxki.c - like emuxki_dev cards[NUM_CARDS]; char * names[NUM_CARDS*20+1]; static pci_module_info	*pci   - etc. Used in several functions. Is it safe to use globals?
[02:11:54] <Dr_Evil> yes, if one is caeful, then this is save
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[02:43:53] <fyysik> Dr_Evil - also what i noticed, emuxki does much less work in init_hardware than your driver. In only checks for card existance and determines card type.  Is it OK
[02:44:02] <fyysik> ?
[02:45:27] <fyysik> ok, reboot
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[02:51:12] <@geist> hmm, cache modules, eh?
[02:51:19] <@geist> axeld is definitely off in new territory for me
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[02:52:05] <slaad> What does axeld do exactly?
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[02:53:02] <@geist> kernel stuff mostly
[02:53:13] <@geist> he's pretty much taken the torch from me and running with it
[02:53:15] <slaad> I mean outside of BeOS-ville.
[02:53:29] <slaad> Is he doing this for a thesis or something?
[02:53:31] <mmadia> iirc he's working towards a masters or phd.
[02:53:34] <mmadia> yea.
[02:53:36] <@geist> dunno, he lives halfway around the world from me
[02:53:49] <slaad> In CompSci, I presume?
[02:55:08] <fyysik> huh, there is also array/pointer of emxuki_dev shared between files. global and not static
[02:55:24] <CIA-6> stippi * current/src/servers/app/server/Painter/ (15 files): Initial version of the Painter framework, which should be usable as a drawing backend.
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[02:57:33] <CIA-6> stippi * current/src/servers/app/server/Painter/drawing_modes/ (10 files): Initial version of the Painter framework, which should be usable as a drawing backend.
[02:58:51] <CIA-6> stippi * current/src/servers/app/server/Painter/font_support/ (8 files): Initial version of the Painter framework, which should be usable as a drawing backend.
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[03:02:05] <Dr_Evil> didn't know that one: BCH = Bose - Chaudhuri - Hocquenghem code
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[03:04:51] <brennanOS> hey MYOB
[03:05:35] <MYOB> hi
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[03:43:49] <CIA-6> stippi * current/src/servers/app/server/Painter/ (Painter.cpp Painter.h): cosmetic changes, and removal of some unnecessary vector conversion pipelines in Stroke and FillRoundRect
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[03:44:26] <brennanOS> heh... no wonder this box felt so pokey, had the wrong damn CPU in it
[03:44:42] * brennanOS think the 266 just wasnt cutting it
[03:45:29] <stippi> good night
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[03:46:10] <MYOB> brennanOS you think 266 is bad? I've got a P100 laptop I'm trying to get BeOS onto :-)
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[03:51:11] <mmadia> for the love of god, why?
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[03:51:30] <MYOB> Because I can
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[03:52:23] <brennanOS> I guess the machine didnt like having the keyboard half plugged in
[03:52:48] <MYOB> mmadia - 100Mhz, 16MB of RAM, ~800KB Neomagic graphics :-)
[03:53:43] <mmadia> just for fun or for somewhat serious use?
[03:54:44] <MYOB> fun
[03:54:51] <brennanOS> are we talking about our slowest usable machines?
[03:55:28] <MYOB> brennanOS I'm not :-)
[03:55:35] <MYOB> my slowest usable is a 25Mhz Dell 325 laptop
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[03:58:36] <mmadia> i've an abacus in the attic.
[03:58:57] <MYOB> heh
[03:59:29] <MYOB> my dad got one from his work when he got promoted into IT (back in the 80's) with "Latest chinese technology calculator" on the box :-)
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[04:01:14] <brennanOS> nice
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[04:01:44] <brennanOS> I have been coding on my C64, so I guess my slowest usable is a 1mhz
[04:02:15] <@AndrewBachmann> AnEvilYak thanks for the information
[04:03:07] <brennanOS> I did install Minix on a 286 laptop once.. a couple of years ago
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[04:15:08] <MYOB> anyone know what nick Andrew McCall uses?
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[04:19:32] <MikeW> and I havn't looked in mIRC for an hour and a half
[04:20:15] <MikeW> http://i.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/photoshop/12-31-04-antidrug/toolboi.jpg heh
[04:21:05] <MYOB> MikeW coding?
[04:21:28] <MikeW> no, reading something awful
[04:21:32] <MYOB> when will you be hitting the Big Smhoke then?
[04:21:37] <MikeW> monday evening
[04:22:27] <MYOB> Jurys I presume?
[04:22:47] <MikeW> er, no
[04:22:53] <MikeW> same as last year, bewleys
[04:23:00] <MikeW> simply because its close
[04:23:13] <MYOB> I'm annoyed that my school is outside Dublin for the setting up days but not outside Dublin for the getting the school to pay for the hotel factor
[04:23:16] <MYOB> bastard school
[04:23:30] <MYOB> oh, was it Donal in Jurys?
[04:23:35] <MikeW> nope
[04:23:42] <MikeW> donals in mount herbert
[04:24:17] <MikeW> isn't it nice that we are discussing where we and others are going to be in a public channel
[04:24:41] <MYOB> heh
[04:24:58] <MYOB> Mount Herbert was the weird rambly hotel he was in two years ago IIRC
[04:48:31] <brennanOS> yeah... expect my hired goons at your doorsteps any minute
[04:48:38] <brennanOS> mwahaha
[04:49:30] <MYOB> Some people on here actually have my adress and phone number
[04:49:42] <MYOB> MikeW has my phone number anyway. AxelD has my adress....
[04:49:56] <MikeW> I think I have your address
[04:50:13] <MikeW> actually, no, its not you
[04:50:42] <brennanOS> all I know is you both live in Ireland
[04:50:42] <MYOB> I could guess at yours. "Mike Walsh, Castlebar" would probably get to you in the dn
[04:50:49] <brennanOS> about 100 miles apart or so if I recall
[04:51:16] <MikeW> MYOB: well it might now
[04:51:30] <MYOB> around 200 miles, but still not that far in US standards
[04:51:42] <brennanOS> yeah...no it isnt very far
[04:51:42] <MikeW> MYOB: I had a neighbour, a relation of mine called Michael Walsh, with the same address apart from a different spelling of the townland
[04:51:51] <MikeW> but now hes dead so I generally receive my packages
[04:52:14] <MYOB> yay! managed to get down Buck Rodgers
[04:52:16] <brennanOS> whats a townland?
[04:52:23] <MikeW> well, hmm, now that hes dead theres a bigger chance that packages will be returned to the sender with "Receipent dead"
[04:52:38] <MYOB> brennanOS hard concept to explain to an American
[04:52:51] <MYOB> in rural Ireland, we have no adress system, rural postage route system, etc
[04:53:04] <MYOB> so the areas around towns are divided into rough areas called townlands
[04:53:27] <MikeW> brennanOS: okay, so theres a big hill in the parish, so looking over the hills and fields and houses areas are divided up roughly and they are generally split by drains passing through fields. And each "section" is a townland
[04:53:31] <MYOB> e.g. my old house was in the townland of Illion in the postal area of Arranmmore
[04:53:47] <@geist> sounds quaint
[04:53:50] <MYOB> to differentiate from everywhere else on the island
[04:54:14] <brennanOS> I see
[04:54:30] <MikeW> MYOB: we seem to ram quite a lot of them in over here
[04:54:39] <brennanOS> probably not much different than the Rural Route system
[04:54:44] <brennanOS> I think that just goes by roads
[04:54:48] <brennanOS> though Im not sure
[04:54:58] <@geist> how do big delivery folks like UPS or whatever deal with that addressing system? I guess they have the same data to operate off of
[04:55:04] <MYOB> MikeW well, on Arranmore they're usually TINY, but out around here they're usually pretty big
[04:55:27] <brennanOS> Im from Iowa which is just about 100% rural
[04:55:40] <MYOB> my current house is in an estate so it has a proper number, but would previously have been in the Dowdstown townland
[04:55:41] <MikeW> er, I though Iowa was 100% backward
[04:55:54] <@geist> in the US rural areas are usually addressed by the route the delivery folks take
[04:56:02] <@geist> ie, route 5 box 208
[04:56:09] <brennanOS> oh yeah, thats right
[04:56:09] <@geist> works pretty well
[04:56:13] <MYOB> geist we're too behind for that :-)_
[04:56:21] <brennanOS> I never actually LIVED in a rural area though
[04:56:22] <MikeW> I will oppose postcodes
[04:56:26] <brennanOS> just heard about it ;)
[04:56:28] <MYOB> we don't have postboxes for houses, we still use letterboxes in the door
[04:56:36] <MikeW> MYOB: our letterbox is gone!
[04:56:39] <brennanOS> and smelled the pig shit if the wind was right
[04:56:44] <MYOB> MikeW you know that Maynooth has a Dublin postcode now?
[04:56:52] <MYOB> not in use yet but its now in Dublin 343
[04:56:54] <MYOB> 33*
[04:56:55] <MikeW> we got a hole in the door thanks to the wind ripping the flap off it
[04:57:04] <MYOB> even though WE'RE NOT IN DUBLIN
[04:57:27] <MikeW> and us taking the frame out because the door people said they would be out in the morning to fit a new one. They never came and now we got masking tape over the hole
[04:57:38] <MikeW> looks really really bad
[04:57:50] <MikeW> so funny though
[04:58:23] <MYOB> MikeW heh
[04:58:47] <MYOB> we didn't have a letterbox at the old house, the postie would come around the back door, if it was open, dump the letters on the kitchen table
[04:59:01] <brennanOS> heh
[04:59:01] <MikeW> thats what happens here
[04:59:13] <brennanOS> nothing wrong with that
[04:59:22] <MikeW> he either puts them in the car, or opens the door and leaves them on the side table in the hall
[04:59:23] <brennanOS> certainly better than everybody being afraid of everybody else
[04:59:28] <@geist> cept if you're standing naked in the kitchen
[04:59:34] <brennanOS> bah
[04:59:35] <MYOB> we've finally done that house up to a modern habitable standard
[04:59:38] <brennanOS> that just makes it funnier
[04:59:41] <MYOB> but still no postbox
[04:59:44] <@geist> strangling your wife and hacking her body into pieces
[04:59:51] <MikeW> but I was a little offput by the priest parking on the road, coming in but walking around the back of the house and coming into the kitchen
[04:59:56] <MikeW> without knocking or anything
[04:59:57] <brennanOS> well... thats just dumb
[05:00:19] <MYOB> MikeW why would you let a priest into your house
[05:00:26] <MYOB> I'd shoot them at twenty paces
[05:00:28] <MikeW> MYOB: because hes a priest
[05:00:38] <MikeW> MYOB: or Father Todd Umptious
[05:00:42] <MYOB> ...well actually considering I can SEE the church from the old house that'd be a bit hard to enforce
[05:00:53] <MYOB> MikeW I forgot you were religious...
[05:00:55] <@AndrewBachmann> hi geist AnEvilYak told me that the sidekick can do SSL for downloading gmail.
[05:01:01] <@AndrewBachmann> I'm really close to getting one
[05:01:01] <MikeW> I havn't been to mass all year
[05:01:27] <MYOB> its only been SIX DAYS Mike!
[05:01:39] <MikeW> oh, we are in 2005 now
[05:02:08] <MYOB> I haven't been in a Catholic Church in, err, 9 months. I was in for a christining
[05:03:19] <MYOB> haven't been to a full mass in a fair few years now
[05:03:57] <MYOB> considering I actually have a form somewhere from the archbishops office confirming that I've been legally removed from their registers, I doubt I'm allowed in a church now :-)
[05:04:31] <MYOB> brennanOS to see how rural where I come from is, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arranmore has a photo I took on it
[05:04:57] <mmadia> ........ MYOB why were you removed from the registers?
[05:05:23] <MYOB> mmadia I'm not a Catholic, I never was, I was baptised at the behest of my naive mother
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[05:07:24] <brennanOS> I was baptized Catholic too
[05:07:52] <brennanOS> My Moms family is Irish Catholic (that what they say here, not sure if that is a real term or not)
[05:08:00] <MYOB> so was mmadia I presume, as is MikeW....
[05:08:22] <brennanOS> MYOB: yep, looks rural
[05:08:32] <mmadia> yup. i'm a freak.
[05:08:37] <mmadia> err.  catholic.
[05:08:40] <brennanOS> looks about like all of Iowa looks from the highway, minus any actual geographic features
[05:09:00] <MYOB> brennanOS the house I lived the first few months of my life in hadn't got an internal toilet
[05:09:02] <brennanOS> other than huge corn field, bean field, and so on
[05:09:06] <MYOB> this was in 1987
[05:09:27] <brennanOS> MYOB: who needs a toilet
[05:09:29] <MYOB> the water system on the island was incapable of taking the strain at the time so you weren't allowed internal toilets
[05:09:38] <brennanOS> heh
[05:09:44] <MYOB> although we did have a shower and sinks, etc
[05:10:27] <brennanOS> pee in the shower...
[05:10:45] <brennanOS> crap into a big hole in the ground I suppose
[05:10:45] <MYOB> whereas after the restoration we're doing now, it has two powershowers, two toilets, a washing machine, and a full hot water system
[05:11:03] <brennanOS> nice
[05:11:15] <brennanOS> I often wonder what it would have been like to grow up somewhere else
[05:11:19] <MYOB> we used Elsan chemical toilets, a bit like what planes have
[05:11:21] <brennanOS> Especially another country
[05:11:28] <MYOB> its only a two bedroom house, BTW
[05:11:41] <MYOB> the bathrooms are both ensuite
[05:11:48] <MYOB> because theres nowhere else to put them
[05:13:08] <MYOB> its a three room house where the door opens right onto the road outside despite having around 3 acres behind it....
[05:15:51] <brennanOS> interesting
[05:15:54] <brennanOS> I have no such stories
[05:16:48] <MikeW> facinating MYOB
[05:17:12] <MYOB> brennanOS its not really a 'story' considering the entire time we lived there we had a 5 bedroom house in Dublin :-)
[05:17:53] <MYOB> just moved to the island because my grandfather was very ill at the time. He's still alive now, and seems totally fine
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[05:19:14] <MYOB> my dad teleworked - we had dual phonelines, might even have been ISDN, before we had a toilet :-)
[05:20:04] <brennanOS> you had a toilet, just not a standard flush toilet
[05:20:25] <brennanOS> alot of people here have a septic system sort of like that
[05:20:36] <brennanOS> instead of being hooked up to city sewer and water
[05:21:04] <MYOB> well we have a flush toilet now but it just goes to a septic tank
[05:21:15] <MYOB> still no sewerage outside towns in Ireland
[05:22:52] <MYOB> no money in the 30's when it was cheap to slap them down, no reason to put them in now when it'll cost probably a billion, minimum
[05:23:20] <MYOB> last time we chucked silly money at something, it was ISDN. And we all know where that went...
[05:23:54] <slaad> I'm sure sewage systems are bound to head the same way as ISDN!
[05:24:02] <MYOB> slaad heheh
[05:24:40] * mmadia grabs a coil of cable wire and HHGttG.  back in 20.  ;)
[05:25:16] <MYOB> theres more chance of Diageo putting in a nationwide beer network then there is of rural Ireland getting a sewerage scheme at this stage
[05:25:39] <MYOB> as piped beer is so much cooler as a concept than pipes of shit
[05:25:54] <MikeW> thats a good idea
[05:26:06] <MikeW> you really are very enterprising
[05:26:22] <MikeW> but what about the cost and waste of alcohol that fills the pipes
[05:26:29] <MikeW> rather than whats used
[05:26:39] <MYOB> use low-bore high pressure pipes
[05:26:44] <MYOB> fill a pint in seconds
[05:26:54] <MYOB> little waste as the pipes are low bore
[05:27:27] <MikeW> subscription alcohol
[05:27:29] <MikeW> its brilliant
[05:27:42] <brennanOS> yeah, sewage systems are really the OS/2 of modern civilization
[05:27:51] <MikeW> don't mention the os/2 war
[05:28:26] <MYOB> when did we have an OS/2 war?
[05:28:39] * MYOB digs out his WarpPad as a defence system
[05:29:03] <brennanOS> heh... I have OS/2 2.something
[05:29:09] <brennanOS> on I think 24 floppies
[05:29:16] <MYOB> actually, that Thinkpad hasn't got Warp on it anymore, but it DID come shipped with Warp
[05:29:18] <brennanOS> the one before Warp
[05:30:06] <MYOB> my TP600 came with Warp 4.0 on it
[05:30:11] <brennanOS> if OS/2 won, maybe we'd all be coding in REXX now
[05:30:15] <MYOB> it and XP are the only OS's that work right on it
[05:31:01] <MYOB> BeOS works fine if you can live without communications - no PCMCIA, no modem but sound+graphics
[05:32:23] <MikeW> microsoft antispyware is a pest!
[05:32:57] <MYOB> you testing it now?
[05:33:03] <MikeW> mercora is fingerprinted because they created a special version of it with the grokster skin and grokster logos but doesn't have spyware but grokster does
[05:33:16] <MikeW> I *think* shareaza is labeled as spyware
[05:33:31] <MikeW> and WinPCap - Potential enabler for other spyware apps
[05:33:56] <MYOB> even though its one of the few clean p2p apps around
[05:34:53] <MYOB> I hope, anyway, as I've recommended it to people as being spyware safe
[05:34:53] <MikeW> its always been clean. It was one of the first
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[05:35:13] <MYOB> finger slipped on trackpad, dammit
[05:35:27] * MYOB thinks this song has the worst lyrics ever
[05:36:04] * brennanOS is eating some damn good salsa
[05:36:07] <MikeW> Error 1304.Error writing to file
[05:36:08] <MikeW> C:\WIN  OWS\system32\hashlib.dll.  Verify that you
[05:36:08] <MikeW> have access to that directory.
[05:36:19] <MikeW> pft, they don't even follow their own development guidelines
[05:37:35] <MikeW> speaking of installers. What has haiku to offer for PKGs?
[05:37:48] <MYOB> Darkwyrm's draft RFC
[05:38:03] <MYOB> .pac = .zip with metadata. Has some level of dependency resolution, from memory
[05:38:13] <MikeW> Warning, Microsoft AntiSpyware has encountered a critical error (Error 103). Please restart Microsoft AntiSpyware again. If you continue to experience this problem,
[05:38:13] <MikeW> please contact Microsoft technical support at support at giantcompany dot com for immediate assistance.
[05:38:41] <MikeW> looks like they missed some entries with their global find and replace
[05:39:33] * MYOB just spilled half a can of pepsi on the floor
[05:40:31] <MikeW> lets see how much spyware has been detected on my (what I think is a) clean machine
[05:41:32] <MYOB> next item on list of stuff to do today - shampoo carpet
[05:41:43] <MikeW> shampoo it?
[05:41:55] <MikeW> okay then, you do not want to see my room
[05:42:04] <MYOB> I'm not in my room
[05:42:07] <MYOB> I'm in the living room
[05:42:40] <MYOB> if I was in my room I'd be panicking about the ceilings after having an entire can of pepsi go on the floor in a few seconds
[05:42:56] <MikeW> because your ceeling is made of cloth?
[05:43:35] <MYOB> no, its no
[05:43:37] <MYOB> not*
[05:43:44] <MikeW> an 07 04:43:44 <MikeW>	an entire can, heh, that isn't a 1 litre can by any chance?
[05:44:05] <MYOB> no, 330ml
[05:44:21] <MYOB> but still quite a lot for a 20 year old plasterboard ceiling to take
[05:44:27] <MYOB> anyway, I spilt it in the living room
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[15:05:34] <lechu_mys> hi ;)
[15:11:00] <mmadia> hi lechu_mys
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[15:15:16] <lechu_mys> hi hi
[15:15:18] <lechu_mys> ;)
[15:15:32] <lechu_mys> i have good day ;]
[15:15:39] <lechu_mys> weekend =)
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[15:26:10] <lechu_mys> :|
[15:27:23] <Dr3w> don't, stop, me now!
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[15:29:12] <lechu_mys> dr3w  ??
[15:29:24] <Dr3w> oh, nothing....
[15:29:28] <lechu_mys> ok ;)
[15:29:34] <Dr3w> House of Flying Daggers rules.
[15:29:44] <lechu_mys> haha :)
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[15:29:51] <lechu_mys> ok .. whatever ;]
[15:31:51] <lechu_mys> ok i think i should go ;]
[15:32:01] <lechu_mys> so .. bye bye all ;]
[15:32:38] <lechu_mys> i wish i had an angel :P
[15:32:44] <lechu_mys> bye ;]
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[16:00:46] <@Korli> Dr_Evil i just saw your screenshots, nice !
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[16:09:53] <@mmu_man> Korli what makes you think it's his ? :P
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[16:29:01] <CIA-6> korli * current/src/tests/kernel/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
[16:29:01] <CIA-6> Added kernel benchmarks from bsd
[16:29:01] <CIA-6> The purpose is to compare Haiku and BeOS R5 on specific operations
[16:48:45] <@Korli> mmu_man the website address is
[16:49:11] <@mmu_man> shhh :p
[16:49:53] <@Korli> mmu_man what's up with your webcam driver ?
[16:50:07] <@mmu_man> not much atm
[16:50:13] <tic> what URL?
[16:50:37] <@Korli> http://www.iscomputeron.com/index/
[16:50:40] <@mmu_man> nothing:p
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[17:04:51] <@AndrewBachmann> voidref around?
[17:11:45] <ShackaN> garbage collection removed all void references laying around
[17:11:48] <ShackaN> :)
[17:12:35] <@AndrewBachmann> I wish
[17:16:08] <@voidref> AndrewBachmann, hey there.
[17:16:37] <@AndrewBachmann> I wasn't able to get the sony v260 to come up
[17:17:38] <@AndrewBachmann> did you have a chance to pick up the i855 accelerant ?
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[17:22:17] <@AndrewBachmann> well looks like I have to run anyway
[17:22:18] <@AndrewBachmann> ttyl
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[17:51:39] <brennanOS> wow.. my Linux From Scratch install actually works!
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[18:02:41] <CIA-6> laplace * current/src/apps/showimage/ShowImageWindow.cpp: Fixed printing related bug. Image was offset by the left, top corner of the printable rectangle.
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[18:06:31] <CIA-6> laplace * current/src/add-ons/print/shared/PrintJobReader.cpp: Added method GetScale
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[18:11:52] <CIA-6> laplace * current/src/add-ons/print/drivers/preview/ (PageSetupWindow.cpp PageSetupWindow.h Preview.cpp Preview.h): Show current displayed page number and added ability to scale the page contents contributed by Dr.H.Reh.
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[18:45:04] <lechu_mys> :|
[18:45:08] <lechu_mys> anybody ? :P
[18:45:13] <lechu_mys> are you there ? :P
[18:46:04] <tic> not really.
[18:46:06] <tic> :)
[18:46:19] <lechu_mys> hihi :)
[18:46:36] <lechu_mys> ok ..
[18:46:54] <lechu_mys> whats up ? :P
[18:47:07] <tic> not much.  have had some dinner, watched DuckTales. you?
[18:47:29] <Methe> Duck tales own
[18:47:42] <lechu_mys> eee .. i dont know what is Duck Tales :|
[18:47:43] <tic> yeah.
[18:48:03] <tic> lechu_mys, http://www.ducktales.freeservers.com/
[18:48:18] <lechu_mys> ok ;]
[18:48:18] <tic> Methe, I'm at #54, which means I have only 46 episodes left. :(
[18:49:54] <lechu_mys> heh those links to clips dont work :|
[18:50:07] <lechu_mys> 404 .. :|
[18:51:07] <tic> well, at least you know which series I meant.
[18:51:30] <lechu_mys> yeah ;]
[18:51:47] <lechu_mys> im from poland .. so the names are different
[18:51:58] <ShackaN> qt apps randomly crashing.. have to restart kde.. :(
[18:52:02] <tic> an 07 17:52:02 <tic>	a jak sie serial nazywa sie w polsce? zaponialem.
[18:52:11] <lechu_mys> hehe
[18:52:19] <lechu_mys> dont know ;]
[18:52:26] <tic> heh.
[18:52:27] <lechu_mys> tic .. where are you from ?
[18:52:32] <ShackaN> tic? you polish too?
[18:52:49] <tic> "kaczor donald i dziadek" :P
[18:52:53] <tic> ShackaN, nope.
[18:53:01] 
[18:53:11] <lechu_mys> oh i remember
[18:53:17] <tic> goodie :)
[18:53:18] <ShackaN> you learned polish for fun ? :D
[18:53:20] <lechu_mys> your mother is Polish ? :>
[18:53:23] <tic> lechu_mys, exactly.
[18:53:26] <lechu_mys> uuu
[18:53:27] <ShackaN> ok
[18:53:30] <tic> ShackaN, I kinda had to, the only language my mother would talk to me in. :P
[18:53:32] <lechu_mys> i forgot your nick i think :|
[18:53:46] <ShackaN> tic, that's luck... :P
[18:53:50] <lechu_mys> Polka jezyk trudna jezyk :P
[18:54:36] <tic> troche.... ja zawsze umialem, wiec nie tak _bardzo_ trudno dla mnie. ale nie umiem pisac, nigdy oczylem sie tego
[18:54:40] <tic> uczylem
[18:54:47] <lechu_mys> haha :)
[18:55:03] <tic> czytalem "skad sie bierze woda sodowa (i nie tylko)" pare razy :P
[18:55:23] <lechu_mys> it is hard to find people from other countries who knows Polish
[18:55:26] <tic> and well, I know how to speak, so it's fairly easy to catch up.
[18:55:27] <tic> hehe :)
[18:55:28] <tic> bet it is.
[18:55:48] <lechu_mys> oh i think you are lucky ;]
[18:55:53] <tic> funny thing though, two or three in the class above me at uni, one in my class and one below me are half-polish, just like me.
[18:56:11] <lechu_mys> =)
[18:56:15] <tic> and then there are a crap-load of half-Polish girls/boys in my age where I live.
[18:56:15] <lechu_mys> how old are you ? :>
[18:56:24] <tic> '82, so, uhm, 22?
[18:56:28] <lechu_mys> :)
[18:56:32] <lechu_mys> ok :P
[18:56:42] <tic> I think a lot of Polish people moved to especially Sweden around the time of "Solidarnosc"
[18:56:53] <lechu_mys> ;]
[18:56:58] <tic> "jest chleb?"
[18:57:02] <tic> "niema"
[18:57:07] <tic> "jest cukier?"
[18:57:08] <lechu_mys> hehe i dont know i dont know history ;]
[18:57:09] <tic> "niema"
[18:57:11] <tic> "a co jest?"
[18:57:13] <tic> "ocet"
[18:57:13] <tic> :P
[18:57:14] <lechu_mys> "nie ma"
[18:57:15] <lechu_mys> :P
[18:57:19] <tic> ah, nie wiedzialem.
[18:57:22] <lechu_mys> ;]
[18:57:27] <lechu_mys> nie z czasownikami piszemy oddzielnie
[18:57:28] <tic> "nie ma" od "nie mam"?
[18:57:35] <lechu_mys> nie z przymiotnikami sie pisze razem
[18:57:35] <tic> mhm.
[18:57:46] <tic> a-ha
[18:57:53] <tic> co to jest przymiotnik?
[18:57:54] <lechu_mys> czasownik - bic robic trzaskac
[18:58:03] <lechu_mys> przymiotnik - ladny brzydki krzywy
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[18:58:07] <tic> ahh
[18:58:24] <lechu_mys> ale od tego jest  w chuj wyjatkow ;)
[18:58:25] <tic> verb and adjective, then.
[18:58:30] <lechu_mys> yeah ;]
[18:58:32] <tic> :P
[18:58:37] <tic> okay, thanks for the lesson.
[18:58:42] <lechu_mys> no prob ;]
[18:58:48] <tic> I'm planning on taking classes at uni to catch up with my polish.
[18:59:01] <tic> as I don't live at home anymore, I seldom speak Polish, and so I keep forgetting words. Highly annoying .:/
[19:00:18] <w-ber> is Polish difficult?
[19:00:25] <Konrad> Isnt kourva much or something like that a bad word in polish?
[19:00:45] <lechu_mys> yes ;]
[19:00:52] <lechu_mys> kurwa mac ;]
[19:01:04] <Konrad> Ah
[19:01:19] <lechu_mys> but you can't translate is word to word
[19:01:28] <lechu_mys> it is something like an idiom
[19:01:31] <tic> w-ber, I wouldn't know...
[19:01:47] <w-ber> tic: well, compared to Finnish, Swedish, German, English or Japanese
[19:02:01] <lechu_mys> tic what kind of music you listen ?
[19:02:11] <tic> w-ber, my native languages are Swedish and Polish. When I grew up, my mother talked to me in Polish, and my father in Swedish.
[19:02:29] <w-ber> tic: sounds like great fun :)
[19:02:57] 
[19:03:13] <lechu_mys> oh
[19:03:16] <tic> w-ber, sure.  I doubt my mother knew more than a couple of words in Swedish when I was born :P
[19:03:18] <lechu_mys> do you listen polish musix ?
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[19:03:29] <tic> lechu_mys, hm, I do have an album my Budka Suflera :)
[19:03:36] <lechu_mys> ;]
[19:03:40] <lechu_mys> hihi ;)
[19:03:46] <tic> and I've heard, hm.. some other band. psytrance.
[19:03:51] <lechu_mys> tic i think you dont like hip hop ?
[19:04:05] <tic> lechu_mys, depends.  I like old-school hiphop, like House of Pain.
[19:04:11] <lechu_mys> uuuuu
[19:04:15] <lechu_mys> house of pain :)
[19:04:18] <lechu_mys> mniam =)
[19:04:33] <tic> and Deep Puddle Dynamics, a (for me) new band.
[19:04:34] <tic> :)
[19:04:40] <lechu_mys> ;]
[19:04:44] <lechu_mys> hihi
[19:04:46] <lechu_mys> :P
[19:05:03] <tic> hrm, I want some paczki!
[19:05:12] <lechu_mys> paczki ?
[19:05:16] <lechu_mys> what you mean ?
[19:05:21] <tic> (pontschki)
[19:05:26] <tic> isn't that how they're spelled?
[19:05:28] * tic suck at spelling.
[19:05:29] <lechu_mys> aaaaa
[19:05:31] <tic> sucks, even.
[19:05:36] 
[19:05:48] <tic> uhm, that didn't come out right.
[19:06:02] <tic> a-z-kreska?
[19:06:18] <tic> can't type polish characters on my keymap.
[19:07:08] <tic> Aww, how cute: http://sam.zoy.org/fun/porn/horse_cock_doggystyle.jpg
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[19:09:05] <tic> okay, gotta go back to work..
[19:09:14] <tic> hey renester!
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[19:12:26] <tic> meshouldworkie
[19:12:46] <tic> 'sup yakster?
[19:12:53] <AnEvilYak> just woke up, you?
[19:13:55] <tic> done a full day at work, out jogging half an hour, had dinner and watched an episode of ducktales. :P
[19:14:16] <w-ber> ah, Ducktales :)
[19:14:48] <tic> yep.  looked again, seems I've got 44 episodes left.
[19:15:08] <tic> :(
[19:15:19] <AnEvilYak> how big are all those episodes?
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[19:15:33] <tic> They're 22G in total.
[19:15:38] <tic> 100 episodes.
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[19:17:45] <tic> man, awful lot of stuff at CES being displayed.
[19:17:53] <tic> working through gizmodo.com as we speak
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[19:20:40] <w-ber> I have all the ten seasons of Turtles
[19:20:48] <w-ber> some 11 GB
[19:21:12] <tic> awesome :)
[19:21:16] <tic> in German or English?
[19:21:27] <w-ber> English, but with Dutch subtitles :)
[19:21:42] <w-ber> low quality VHS rips, but I don't think they ever were even released on DVD
[19:22:17] <tic> nah, doubtful.
[19:22:36] <w-ber> I should try and find the original He-Man series
[19:22:43] <tic> What's annoying me in the cartoon world is that the DVDs of Les Mondes Englitous is in French-only and no subs. :(
[19:22:51] <tic> ("Spartakus and The Sun Beneath The Sea")
[19:23:22] <w-ber> rings a bell, but very little
[19:23:43] <tic> Hm..
[19:23:57] <tic> wonder if I can find the lost archives of arcadia
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[19:24:15] <tic> http://www.80scartoons.net/toons/spartakus.html
[19:24:20] <tic> Les Mondes Engloutis, even.
[19:24:45] <tic> I get tears in my eyes when I hear the theme music, it's so damn good.
[19:25:39] <w-ber> sounds like I missed much
[19:26:33] <tic> Indeed you do!
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[19:31:02] <tic> Hm, not much happening in the Haiku world..
[19:31:04] <tic> why's that? :)
[19:31:26] <w-ber> everyone's on a well earned vacation, I suspect :)
[19:32:31] <w-ber> oh, I totally forgot tomorrow's Saturday
[19:34:16] <tic> indeed.
[19:34:23] 
[19:35:10] <w-ber> I write, but not for Haiku :)
[19:36:17] <w-ber> I'll go watch some Excel Saga
[19:36:18] <Dr_Evil> I write, but not for Haiku
[19:36:29] <Dr_Evil> and I don't code while chatting
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[19:37:42] <tic> Dr_Evil, true enough.
[19:37:43] <tic> hey korli
[19:37:51] <@Korli> re
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[19:58:09] <@Korli> hey fyysik
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[20:45:47] <fyysik> is there any decoder for BeOS (except VLC) to watch Photo JPEG (mjpeg?) compressed movies
[20:47:18] <tic> isn't there a codec in R5 Pro?
[20:48:18] <fyysik> if only for some very ancient version
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[21:38:29] <fyysik> Jan 07 20:38:29 <fyysik>
[21:39:04] <@voidref> Jan 07 20:39:04 <@voidref>
[21:39:10] <dipp> Jan 07 20:39:10 <dipp>
[21:40:22] <tic> dipp, looking at SVT2?
[21:40:32] <tic> dipp, first time I saw a home video of the wave.
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[21:44:41] <dipp> tic: I watched some minutes ago but I didn't see any wave then :/
[21:44:48] <tic> ah
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[21:46:54] <dipp> I am looking now
[21:47:04] <dipp> watching*
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[22:07:25] <CIA-6> rudolfc * current/src/add-ons/accelerants/nvidia/engine/nv_acc.c: mode DMA related programming (currently disabled I hope..)
[22:09:10] <CIA-6> rudolfc * current/headers/private/graphics/nvidia/nv_macros.h: DMA related register defines
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[22:44:37] <ShackaN> I was talking to a guy which says the == operation is not atomic, and must be synchronized if more threads access the variables involved, is that true ?
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[22:47:18] <CIA-6> rudolfc * current/src/add-ons/accelerants/nvidia/engine/nv_acc.c: added some unknown stuff for NV45(?)
[22:47:22] <Dr_Evil> yes, but why care about the result, if the conditions change?
[22:48:28] <CIA-6> rudolfc * current/headers/private/graphics/nvidia/nv_macros.h: more reg defines
[22:50:36] <@mmu_man> :)
[22:51:07] <@mmu_man> ShackaN it depends on the cpu, and the data type
[22:51:15] <@mmu_man> and what you appart of it
[22:51:16] <ShackaN> integers
[22:51:23] <@mmu_man> for ex
[22:51:32] <@mmu_man> if (foo == bar)
[22:51:53] <@mmu_man> that loads foo in a reg
[22:51:58] <ShackaN> yes
[22:51:59] <@mmu_man> loads bar in another ref
[22:52:01] <@mmu_man> and compares
[22:52:05] <ShackaN> uhm
[22:52:14] <@mmu_man> it doesn't copares foo and bar at teh same time
[22:52:16] <Dr_Evil> this all doesn't matter mmu_man, as long as there is a chance for it to change
[22:52:24] <ShackaN> mov reg, foo
[22:52:25] <tic> just use a semaphore, then?
[22:52:40] <ShackaN> cmp reg, dword ptr[bar]
[22:52:47] <@mmu_man> anyway access to shared should be protected
[22:52:52] <ShackaN> I know
[22:53:03] <@mmu_man> else there is no use to access it
[22:53:08] <ShackaN> but I didn't know if == required protection too
[22:53:10] <Dr_Evil> however example, i=0; if (i == 0) { a(); [here i changes to 1] b(); }
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[22:53:23] <Dr_Evil> you need locking!
[22:53:27] <Dr_Evil> not only for the compare
[22:54:06] <fyysik> mmu_man - is there any newer pjpeg/mjpeg decoder for BeOS?
[22:54:22] <ShackaN> but (i == 0) is atomic, since the righthand is an immediate, or not ?
[22:54:38] <fyysik> old one cannot play movies from newer photocameras, and VLC plays it in start-stop mode
[22:54:50] <@mmu_man> fyysik ffdecoder supposedly can decode that, but in practice some files decoded better with Be's
[22:55:41] <@mmu_man> ShackaN well the test is atomic, but it's quite useless if the thing you do after it depends on i being 0
[22:56:27] <ShackaN> it was just an example .)
[22:56:28] <Dr_Evil> and the test is not atomic if i is 64 bit, or a unaligned 32 bit
[22:56:42] <ShackaN> uhm, ok ok, I was wrong
[22:59:29] <ShackaN> so the only true atomic operations are assignment and (in|de)crement ?
[22:59:59] <@mmu_man> ?
[23:00:15] <AnEvilYak> ShackaN: depends on the CPU
[23:00:20] <@mmu_man> assignment only to an aligned 32 bit int on x86
[23:00:23] <AnEvilYak> ShackaN: most CPUs have atomic compare and swap
[23:00:28] <@mmu_man> inc/dec certainly not
[23:00:36] <Dr_Evil> if you need atomic, use atomic_* functions
[23:00:40] <tic> atomic_add, atomic_or, atomic_and.
[23:00:54] <@mmu_man> inc and dec requires teh cpu to fetch teh data, inc, and put it back to mem
[23:00:56] <@voidref> atomic_image_viewer_app()
[23:01:11] <tic> voidref, yeah, that's really useful. ;)
[23:01:14] <@voidref> atomic_is_computer_on()
[23:01:20] <ShackaN> I want to know, just in case I am to write a kernel some day.. :)
[23:01:24] <Dr_Evil> here are some atomic x86 implementations http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/open-beos/current/src/kernel/libroot/os/arch/x86/atomic.S?rev=1.5&view=auto
[23:01:30] <@mmu_man> voidref well that one is rentrant anyway
[23:01:40] <Dr_Evil> even for 64 bit variables
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[23:01:48] <@voidref> true
[23:02:09] <@mmu_man> atomic_fusion(void *core);
[23:02:34] <tic> *laughs*
[23:02:40] <@mmu_man> hmm, arg should be uint32 cpu
[23:02:42] <@voidref> atomic_man(sidekick* _boy_wonder)
[23:02:52] <ShackaN> hahhaha
[23:02:53] <tic> Watch out, radioactive man!
[23:02:53] <w-ber> :D
[23:03:03] <tic> "Good! Again"
[23:03:07] <slaad> Haha
[23:03:08] <tic> "Watch out, radioactive man!"
[23:03:26] <w-ber> ridiculously funny
[23:03:29] <slaad> You kids don't get out much ;)
[23:03:30] <Dr_Evil> ShackaN have a look whats needed for a atomic 64 bit assignment, atomic_set64
[23:03:38] <tic> "Great, great!  You're hired! .... <pause> ... that's what I'd say to you if you haven't been one inch too short! NEXT!"
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[23:03:49] <w-ber> atomic_kittens(music *songs)
[23:03:55] <tic> pfft.
[23:04:00] * tic loathes atomic kittens.
[23:04:06] * w-ber too
[23:04:07] <tic> I prefer 'em locked in, by a semaphore.
[23:04:17] * Dr_Evil prefers a spinlock
[23:04:21] * AnEvilYak too
[23:05:08] <w-ber> atomic_bomberman(teh *bomb)
[23:05:41] <ShackaN> Dr_Evil, I see..
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[23:06:53] <tic> you low low level creeps!
[23:07:36] <AnEvilYak> hm, what was it again...
[23:07:39] <AnEvilYak> lock cmpxchg32?
[23:08:11] <ShackaN> ?
[23:08:27] <AnEvilYak> just trying to scare tic more
[23:08:39] <AnEvilYak> if my memory isn't totally shot, that's the x86 instruction for atomic compare-and-swap
[23:08:41] <@mmu_man> lock movl $0,(0)
[23:08:47] <slaad> HCF, HCF!
[23:08:51] <@mmu_man> oops dbl fault
[23:08:55] <AnEvilYak> mmu_man: am I about right?
[23:08:56] <ShackaN> hahah
[23:09:03] <w-ber> hmm, could someone explain a compiler-newbie how can the compiler make atomic_* calls in actual fact atomic?
[23:09:09] <ShackaN> AnEvilYak, you are
[23:09:13] <tic> AnEvilYak, nah, I meant doing a spinlock on the cats.  that's really low.
[23:09:19] <AnEvilYak> tic: oh.
[23:09:21] <@mmu_man> w-ber it's not the compiler
[23:09:29] <@mmu_man> it's the asm code they have in
[23:09:30] <AnEvilYak> w-ber: it's CPU functionality
[23:09:34] <w-ber> oh
[23:09:34] <AnEvilYak> w-ber: in the x86 case the lock keyword
[23:09:35] <@mmu_man> it's the cpu that does that
[23:09:36] <ShackaN> w-ber, the compiler just calls them
[23:09:38] <AnEvilYak> PPC has a different way of doing things.
[23:09:49] <w-ber> I must study more
[23:09:53] <AnEvilYak> iirc you have a begin/end instruction around the atomic block
[23:10:09] <AnEvilYak> with a test loop for the op itself
[23:10:12] <AnEvilYak> but I might be wrong.
[23:10:44] <tic> o/~ the cotton squares are gonna steal your dough, and gonna take a holiday down to mexico with your wife o/~
[23:11:13] <slaad> Heh
[23:11:23] <ShackaN> cotton.. squares ?
[23:11:24] <tic> It's from "don't fuck with the cotton squares"
[23:11:28] <tic> ShackaN, sheesh, where have you been!
[23:11:33] <tic> ShackaN, Be's house band.
[23:11:47] <ShackaN> do you have a BAND !?
[23:11:49] <tic> ShackaN, the authors of such smash-hits like Virtual (void), 5038, among others.
[23:11:53] <tic> ShackaN, Be used to, yeah.
[23:12:03] <tic> Ficus & friends.
[23:12:19] <tic> they're called Kissing Contest now, though.  (dunno if it's the same band members)
[23:12:22] <@geist> AnEvilYak: that's right. ppc and some other arches do that for atomic ops
[23:12:40] <AnEvilYak> geist: any reason why?
[23:12:41] <tic> ShackaN, geist would know about that better.
[23:12:43] <@geist> you do "load with reserve", do the ops on a register, and "store with reserve"
[23:12:50] <AnEvilYak> geist: I seem to remember something about ppc not having to lock the SMP bus to do it.
[23:12:51] <ShackaN> uhm, are they the ones singing during the java2D christmas video ?
[23:12:55] <AnEvilYak> geist: unlike Intel
[23:12:56] <tic> ShackaN, yeah.
[23:13:01] <ShackaN> aaaaaah
[23:13:04] <@geist> the store with reserve will only succeed if no other cpu referenced that memory address since the load
[23:13:09] <tic> ShackaN, that's 5038.
[23:13:13] <@geist> yes, that's a fantastic way to do it
[23:13:18] <tic> ShackaN, i.e., the song's called 5038.
[23:13:21] <ShackaN> uh, I *NEEED* that
[23:13:27] <AnEvilYak> geist: hence the loop presumably?
[23:13:36] <@geist> it doesn't kill the load/store architecture of the system
[23:13:49] <@geist> and you can effectively do whatever you want between the load and store
[23:14:00] <ShackaN> geist, on how many archs did you port newos?
[23:14:13] <@geist> complete ports are x86, sh4, ppc
[23:14:20] <@geist> incomplete is x86-64
[23:14:26] <ShackaN> wow
[23:14:26] <tic> ShackaN, hold on a sec.
[23:14:37] <@geist> got it to compile at some point on alpha, mips, 68k, sparc
[23:14:42] <@geist> but with everything stubbed out
[23:14:46] <tic> ShackaN, http://dundermusen.mine.nu/stuff/media/cottonsquares
[23:14:56] <ShackaN> tic, THANKS :)
[23:14:57] <dipp> dreamcast \0/
[23:15:01] <tic> (I think they're public domain anyway)
[23:15:04] <tic> ShackaN, no problem!
[23:15:13] <ShackaN> I didn't know there was even geek music out there..
[23:15:31] <@geist> and of course, dont forget http://kissingcontest.com/
[23:15:34] <tic> note though: the "fan" songs are tributes to Cotton Squares
[23:15:37] <@geist> the best band evar
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[23:15:47] <@geist> the successor to cotton squares
[23:15:57] <tic> Ohh.
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[23:16:00] * tic leeches
[23:16:06] <tic> an 07 22:16:06 <tic>	a new-recording of Focus Pocus.
[23:16:09] <tic> and I like "Untitled 2"
[23:16:18] <tic> But maybe that's not only StyledEdit?
[23:16:19] <@geist> ist>	i like mucky lee
[23:17:06] <@geist> though I'd record that bass track over again if I ever got the chance
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[23:18:21] <tic> yay, downloading.
[23:18:49] <tic> that's one fast link.
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[23:19:22] * ShackaN will write his kernel, one day (well, hopefully...:( )
[23:20:03] <tic> geist, what's the album called?
[23:21:11] <@geist> Kissing Contest
[23:21:20] <@geist> never could find a good name for it
[23:21:27] <tic> okay.
[23:21:43] <Dr_Evil> how do I catch a Ctrl+C ?
[23:21:48] <tic> sigint?
[23:21:58] <slaad> Yeah, signal handlers.
[23:21:59] <AnEvilYak> Dr_Evil: install a signal handler for sigint
[23:22:16] <slaad> And wear a slab of meat for a hat. Vital to the process.
[23:22:23] <@geist> MEAT SLAB!
[23:22:24] <tic> geist, where is the name Untitled 2 from?
[23:22:27] <slaad> \m/
[23:22:41] <slaad> Apoptygma Berzerk use Untilted {Number}, tic
[23:22:51] <tic> That's quite true
[23:22:54] <@geist> tic: I think it's the obvious source
[23:22:57] <@geist> gotta go
[23:22:57] <AnEvilYak> Dr_Evil: see posix/signal.h, sigaction()
[23:22:58] <tic> geist, okay.
[23:23:00] <tic> ciao!
[23:23:05] <ShackaN> ciao!
[23:23:12] <Dr_Evil> ok
[23:23:14] * tic has started using slaad's italian greetings.
[23:23:19] <slaad> Haha.
[23:24:10] <tic> o/~ rock and roll never died, it just went on vacation for a while... o/~
[23:24:32] <ShackaN> slaad's? the only italian guy here it's me :P
[23:24:34] <slaad> You know, I don't think of it as Italian, but as Australian :P
[23:24:43] <slaad> Naw, I'm Ocka as they come, ShackaN.
[23:24:53] <tic> nah, australian would be to say "snake" or something.
[23:24:59] <ShackaN> hahhaha
[23:25:07] <slaad> Although the Missus is Italian. First generation Australian.
[23:25:29] <tic> heh, there you have it.
[23:25:56] <tic> first generation australian means one of her parents are from Italy?
[23:26:04] <slaad> Both are.
[23:26:14] <slaad> She's the first generation of her family to be born here.
[23:26:20] * ShackaN has got relatives in australia..
[23:26:28] <slaad> Are they as cool as me, ShackaN? ;)
[23:26:44] <ShackaN> never seen 'em, actually :P
[23:26:46] <@mmu_man> slaad what type is Number ? (ie. how many will they do ? :)
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[23:27:13] <ShackaN> slaad, and I've never seen you, too :p
[23:27:37] * slaad fails to parse mmu_man...
[23:29:17] * w-ber sets errno
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[23:30:44] * ShackaN dumps core and panic()
[23:31:27] <tic> might want to clean that up after you.
[23:31:32] <tic> s/you/yourself.
[23:32:38] <w-ber> Welcome to Kernel Debugging Land
[23:33:06] <Dr_Evil> sigaction works well
[23:33:10] <@mmu_man> hangman
[23:33:11] <tic> You see a showel, a paper with text written on it and a pen.
[23:34:23] <tic> look at paper
[23:34:29] <tic> err
[23:34:31] <tic> >>> look at paper
[23:35:06] <tic> on the paper is written, on each line, arcane combinations of characters; their meaning only displayed for The Skilled Ones.
[23:35:51] <slaad> You know what was funny? The Zorkesque guide to driver writing for some video card in a Be newsletter
[23:36:01] <tic> Yeah, I remember that. :9
[23:36:07] * ShackaN reads, and says "is that PERL ?!?!?"
[23:36:10] <tic> give 50'000 to ugly monster
[23:36:33] <tic> you receive a paper with a bit of text on it. pay him more. etc. :)
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[23:42:05] <slaad> http://www.beatjapan.org/mirror/www.be.com/aboutbe/benewsletter/volume_III/Issue8.html !
[23:42:53] <@mmu_man> EVADE TROLL
[23:43:56] <AnEvilYak> best...article....ever.
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[23:45:01] <slaad> Word :)
[23:45:39] <ShackaN> haaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahhahahahahahhahaa
[23:45:44] <ShackaN> *laughs*
[23:46:07] <ShackaN> 1999.. sigh.. those were times
[23:46:53] <slaad> >	> DON'T EDITORIALIZE
[23:48:09] <@voidref> did you know the author of that article reverse engineered the Nvidia driver over the weekend for Be?
[23:48:21] <AnEvilYak> umm
[23:48:24] <AnEvilYak> you did say *weekend* right?
[23:48:25] <slaad> Eep.
[23:48:27] <AnEvilYak> oh wait
[23:48:29] <AnEvilYak> you mean in general
[23:48:31] <@voidref> I guess he cheated with teh obfuscated X code driver
[23:48:33] <AnEvilYak> I thought you meant he wrote it in 1 weekend
[23:48:41] <@voidref> yes, it was over 1 weekend
[23:48:47] * AnEvilYak blinks
[23:48:50] <AnEvilYak> with accelerant and all?
[23:48:53] <@voidref> that's how long it took him
[23:48:58] <@voidref> as far as I have been told
[23:49:05] <AnEvilYak> Leo officially goes on my "frightening" list.
[23:49:05] <@voidref> I did not witness it first hand.
[23:49:19] <tic> that's pretty awesome.
[23:49:20] <ShackaN> WEEKEND?
[23:49:31] <@voidref> yea, I guess he was bored.
[23:49:34] <tic> you should hire Leo Schwab.
[23:49:36] <ShackaN> ...
[23:49:36] <tic> and Jason.
[23:49:41] <tic> and, and, and ...
[23:49:48] <@voidref> Jason works at nVidia now
[23:50:00] <ShackaN> and leo?
[23:50:01] <tic> voidref, figures. :)
[23:50:07] <@voidref> leo, not sure where he is.
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[23:58:48] <AnEvilYak> yeah, the last time he updated his public home page was like 7 years ago
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