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[00:28:48] <CIA-5> axeld * current/src/add-ons/translators/ (12 files in 2 dirs):
[00:28:48] <CIA-5> Added a simple RTF translator.
[00:28:48] <CIA-5> It only supports colors and bold fonts beside plain ASCII text, but it's a
[00:28:48] <CIA-5> start.
[00:28:48] <CIA-5> The RTF* class hierarchy should get a cleanup, though (and will soon).
[00:28:49] <CIA-5> You'll need Haiku's StyledEdit to make use of this translator.
[00:31:11] <mumu25> he's back on track
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[00:57:27] <fyysik> !seen korli
[00:57:31] <fyysik> hmm
[00:59:01] * fyysik found that Driver section in BeBook is too laconic
[00:59:37] <slaad> Heh.
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[01:10:35] <dr_evil> hello BGA
[01:10:55] <@BGA> Hey"
[01:11:02] * BGA is back from vacations.
[01:11:26] <[Beta]> hey BGA.
[01:12:03] <dr_evil> great, what did you do, where did you stay?
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[01:13:12] <dr_evil> an 03 00:13:12 <dr_evil>	a lot happened, http://haiku-os.org/ http://mad-scientist-entertainment.org/ and http://beunited.org/ are all offline ;)
[01:16:08] <@BGA> dr_evil: I went with 7 friends to my father's place... I took more than 1000 pictures!
[01:16:15] <@BGA> Should put them online soon. :)
[01:16:23] <@BGA> It was great and I even got a new gf. ;)
[01:16:56] <fyysik> hm. nice idea. New Year with New gf!
[01:18:27] * dr_evil has an appointment at the eye specialist at 10:15, and it's already 1:20
[01:19:18] <dr_evil> vision (not the IRC app) is slowly improving
[01:24:12] <ShackaN> improving?
[01:24:31] <dr_evil> yes
[01:24:37] <ShackaN> if this is the case, why are you visiting a specialist?
[01:24:47] <dr_evil> after PRK
[01:25:02] <ShackaN> I thought people call the doctor when things start to go bad..
[01:25:05] <ShackaN> PRK ?
[01:25:09] <dr_evil> because of PRK side effets
[01:25:22] <dr_evil> ask google
[01:25:26] <ShackaN> what's that ?
[01:25:28] <ShackaN> mm, ok
[01:25:44] <ShackaN> is it maybe laser eye surgery ?
[01:26:11] <ShackaN> uh, yeah, google confirmes
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[01:27:01] <ShackaN> dr_evil, does it hurt ?
[01:27:25] <[Beta]> sounds like it should
[01:27:38] <ShackaN> that's why I'm asking..
[01:27:40] <[Beta]> polishing your cornea
[01:27:48] <ShackaN> I do know
[01:27:50] <[Beta]> maybe we can call him riddick?
[01:27:57] <ShackaN> LOOOOL
[01:28:32] <[Beta]> sadly i'm needing some work on my left eye, its losing focus
[01:28:49] <dr_evil> oh yes it hurts very much on the first day
[01:28:50] <ShackaN> sadly I'm myope on both eyes :P
[01:29:46] <ShackaN> dr_evil, can i ask you why did you undergo eye surgery ?
[01:30:05] <dr_evil> wanted to finally get rid of glasses
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[01:34:28] <ShackaN> me too, but I'm afraid of lasers
[01:36:32] <DaaT> was going to have that surgery last year but ended up not doing it, maybe this year
[01:36:55] <DaaT> last year=2003, sorry
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[01:40:01] <dr_evil> good info http://www.eyemdlink.com/EyeProcedure.asp?EyeProcedureID=7
[01:41:55] <DaaT> so lasik is better than prk it seems
[01:44:30] <dr_evil> my cornea was too thin for Lasik
[01:45:05] <dr_evil> with Lasik they make a cut into the cornea, wich has it's own risk and may destabilize the eye
[01:46:01] <DaaT> true true
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[01:47:11] <dr_evil> this Lasik "flap" also never really adnates again, it's basically adhesion with a few cells that merge. can be opened agaon without cutting after more than 2 years
[01:47:40] <dr_evil> so PRK isn't that bad, as PRK has no "flap" :)
[01:48:12] <DaaT> mmmmmmmmm... and more safe too it seems, though it has the risk of scarring
[01:48:18] <DaaT> slower recuperation though
[01:48:40] <DaaT> there's never a perfect method... darn
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[01:59:41] <slaad> See people, this is why Gattaca was a good idea ;)
[02:01:43] <dr_evil> lol
[02:01:44] <[Beta]> lol
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[02:10:50] <slaad> Well, I mean, it wouldn't solve anything for us poor sods, but you know...
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[02:17:25] <[Beta]> it'd be a good thing for our children..
[02:21:43] <dr_evil> no, for some other children, certainly not for ours
[02:27:09] * dr_evil added some stuff to his DVB-T driver, but right now the interrupt handler s crashing and needs work
[02:27:28] <dr_evil> and tuning doesn't seem to work, too
[02:37:02] <dr_evil> hmm, tuning, reminds me of "Dark City", great movie
[02:38:05] <mmadia> agreed dr_evil  :]
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[02:52:42] <dr_evil> First, there was darkness. Then came the Strangers.
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[03:03:41] <@AndrewBachmann> anybody here got a recent beos laptop - centrino chipset?
[03:03:48] <CIA-5> axeld * current/src/add-ons/translators/rtftranslator/ (RTF.cpp RTF.h):
[03:03:48] <CIA-5> Refactored the code: put everything in the RTF namespace, separated group
[03:03:48] <CIA-5> functions from the former RTFElement (now RTF::Element).
[03:03:48] <CIA-5> Put the parsing basics into a separate class RTF::Parser (used to be in
[03:03:48] <CIA-5> the static RTFHeader::Parse()).
[03:03:48] <CIA-5> RTF::Header is now always correctly set to RTF::TEXT_DESTINATION.
[03:03:50] <CIA-5> Some minor other related changes.
[03:04:09] <@AndrewBachmann> cool
[03:04:57] <CIA-5> axeld * current/src/add-ons/translators/rtftranslator/ (RTFTranslator.cpp RTFTranslator.h convert.cpp convert.h): Mostly adapted to the refactored RTF classes hierarchy.
[03:05:12] <dr_evil> AndrewBachmann I think that stippy(ie?) has a centrino
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[03:05:25] <dr_evil> hello AndrewBachmann!
[03:05:33] <@AndrewBachmann> hello happy new year dr_evil
[03:05:53] <dr_evil> I made much progress on my DVB-T driver today, however, the interrupt handler crashes, and it still doesn't tune channels
[03:06:13] <dr_evil> happy new near for you, too
[03:06:33] <@AndrewBachmann> I found a cool laptop but... vesa? :-(
[03:06:42] <@AndrewBachmann> it's the intel extreme graphics 2
[03:06:54] <@AndrewBachmann> 855GME chipset
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[03:10:45] <dr_evil> AndrewBachmann did you already ask voidref or mmu_man if that will be supported by YT?
[03:11:18] <@AndrewBachmann> voidref said "it will probably work" but it didn't seem to go with the pro boot CD
[03:11:29] <@AndrewBachmann> I don't have a zeta install
[03:11:34] <@AndrewBachmann> was planning to try phos
[03:14:01] <dr_evil> AndrewBachmann the 855G graphics chipset is completely different from the 810 and 815 graphics chipset
[03:14:22] <dr_evil> the board itself may work, vith vesa graphics
[03:14:41] <dr_evil> and I can give you the chipset docu for the graphics chipset
[03:15:45] <dr_evil> I don't know if zeta has support for that graphics chipset, but YT should not
[03:15:50] <dr_evil> shoud NOW
[03:15:52] <dr_evil> KNOW
[03:15:55] <dr_evil> damn
[03:16:09] <dr_evil> YT should know this
[03:16:15] <dr_evil> going to sleep now
[03:17:36] <@AndrewBachmann> ok thanks
[03:17:51] <@AndrewBachmann> it's unfortunate that I don't have much time to experiment
[03:18:04] <dr_evil> snooze(216E8) now or soemthing like that...
[03:18:42] <dr_evil> tomorrow is a business day, call them ;)
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[03:21:22] <dr_evil> bye...
[03:21:32] <@AndrewBachmann> g'night
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[09:33:31] <CIA-5> axeld * current/src/add-ons/translators/rtftranslator/ (RTF.cpp RTF.h): (log message trimmed)
[09:33:31] <CIA-5> The parser now uses a BBufferIO stream to speed things up.
[09:33:31] <CIA-5> Text::Parse() now converts bigger chunks at once.
[09:33:31] <CIA-5> Default RTF element destination is visible in text now, only known
[09:33:31] <CIA-5> other destinations are marked that way (using a lookup table).
[09:33:32] <CIA-5> Added virtual method IsDefinitionDelimiter() to Element to make
[09:33:34] <CIA-5> definition iterating nicer.
[09:34:36] <CIA-5> axeld * current/src/add-ons/translators/rtftranslator/RTFTranslator.h: We're not really yet version 1.0.0 :)
[09:39:00] <CIA-5> axeld * current/src/add-ons/translators/rtftranslator/convert.cpp:
[09:39:00] <CIA-5> Extended support of RTF features. Ie. the conversion/group context is now
[09:39:00] <CIA-5> maintained, and should work more or less correctly.
[09:39:00] <CIA-5> Monospaced fonts can now be chosen (the font table is partially parsed),
[09:39:00] <CIA-5> italics works, and many other things.
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[11:11:00] <CIA-5> axeld * current/src/add-ons/translators/rtftranslator/ (RTF.cpp RTF.h):
[11:11:00] <CIA-5> Added a simple RTF::Worker class that can be subclassed in order to work
[11:11:00] <CIA-5> with the RTF document step by step.
[11:13:45] <CIA-5> axeld * current/src/add-ons/translators/rtftranslator/convert.cpp:
[11:13:45] <CIA-5> No longer uses the RTF::Iterator to process the document; it now subclasses
[11:13:45] <CIA-5> the RTF::Worker for this task (TextOutput).
[11:13:45] <CIA-5> Cleaned the sources a bit, TextOutput now also contains the functionality
[11:13:45] <CIA-5> of the former AppServerConnection class.
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[12:34:29] <CIA-5> jackburton * current/src/kits/interface/ (Menu.cpp MenuBar.cpp): Now menuitems are highlighted correctly, and submenus open, at least.
[12:34:32] <JBurton> hi
[12:34:44] <[Beta]> hey.
[12:36:56] <JBurton> heya [Beta]
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[12:42:37] <Fanskapet> woho now i got my new laptop :)
[12:42:45] <Fanskapet> maybe i should try BeOS on it now :)
[12:45:20] * Methe jumps on mahlzeit's shoulders, grabs his head with his feets, jumps back and smashes his head on the ground. Tekken style
[12:45:54] <Fanskapet> :)
[12:45:55] * mahlzeit is looking at pictures of jessica biel
[12:46:17] <Methe> who is she ?
[12:46:33] <Methe> Fanskapet: go check @ beOs laptops website if supported
[12:46:48] <Fanskapet> mine isn't listed there
[12:46:53] <Fanskapet> Acer Ferrari 3200
[12:47:45] <Master199> biel ? texas chainsaw massacre *g* ?
[12:47:51] <@mahlzeit> yep
[12:47:59] <Master199> ahhh , hehe
[12:48:01] <Methe> url ? :D
[12:48:05] <[Beta]> shes cute
[12:48:23] <Fanskapet> hehe.. there's a sound of a ferrari on a race that races by when starting windows :)
[12:48:24] <Fanskapet> lame :)
[12:48:38] <Master199> lol :-D
[12:48:49] <Fanskapet> but the machine seems to be real nice.
[12:49:08] <Fanskapet> and it sure looks good :)
[12:49:34] <Fanskapet> i guess that i will have to install atleast a 64bit linux on it :)
[12:50:04] <Master199> laptop with an AMD64 ?
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[12:50:11] <Fanskapet> Master199, yep
[12:50:18] <Master199> cool
[12:51:16] <Fanskapet> Master199, http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?art=658
[12:51:54] <@mahlzeit> Methe: http://celeb-babes.blogspot.com/2004/12/jessica-biel.html
[12:51:59] <@mahlzeit> :-)
[12:52:43] <Methe> huhu
[12:52:48] <Methe> but so american-ish
[12:52:56] <Methe> (and so lame pic)
[12:53:04] <Fanskapet> but i sure hope that i did the right thing buying this.... i mostly bought it for the radeon 9700.. im pretty clueless about how the preformance in laptop gfx card is.
[12:53:21] <Fanskapet> but this card should be good from what i've seen on the internet..
[12:53:29] <Master199> hmm K8T800 chipset
[12:53:54] <Fanskapet> is it bad or?
[12:54:52] <Master199> nope the chipset is okay, but wasnt there problems with beos ?
[12:55:56] <Fanskapet> dunno
[12:59:55] <Fanskapet> but i will probably find out when i try to boot Be :)
[13:00:28] <Fanskapet> hmm.. but now i need to find out a way to creat bootable cd's with partitionmagic
[13:00:37] <Fanskapet> never done this.... can't be that difficult with nero though :)
[13:00:42] <Fanskapet> point 'n click :)
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[13:10:20] <@mahlzeit> bah, i didn't win the lottery :-(
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[13:12:42] <Begasus> same here mahlzeit :(
[13:12:42] <JBurton> mahlzeit aaah bad
[13:12:48] <JBurton> well I didn't even play
[13:12:59] <@mahlzeit> actually i won 15 euros, but i wanted 20 million!
[13:13:18] <Methe> :)
[13:13:22] <Methe> actually
[13:13:25] <Methe> with a friend
[13:13:37] <Methe> we stated that u need 4millions Euros
[13:13:41] <Methe> to live like a prince
[13:13:43] <Methe> and your kid
[13:13:46] <Methe> and kid of your kid
[13:13:54] <Methe> until next economical break
[13:14:02] <Methe> take 4millions
[13:14:03] <JBurton> eheh
[13:14:05] <Methe> put them in bank
[13:14:12] <Methe> an 03 12:14:12 <Methe>	an account blocked
[13:14:17] <Methe> meaning u can't touch anything of it
[13:14:24] <JBurton> so you live just with interests
[13:14:29] <Methe> exactly
[13:14:30] <Methe> u get
[13:14:36] <Methe> if I remember our calcul correctly
[13:14:39] <@mahlzeit> my kids can go work for their own damn money!
[13:15:02] <Methe> sthing like 15000Euros per month
[13:15:06] <Methe> with only inbterest
[13:17:02] <JBurton> hmmm not bad Methe
[13:17:03] <JBurton> mahlzeit eheheh
[13:17:09] <JBurton> right :)
[13:18:10] <Methe> like Bill Gates
[13:18:15] <Methe> he>	he said his kid wouldnt get much
[13:18:20] <Methe> he>	he has to work 4 it
[13:18:36] <Methe> but he's at least sure to never end up on the street
[13:19:10] <@mahlzeit> unless haiku becomes successful :-)
[13:20:36] <[Beta]> or Uuu :p
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[13:21:16] <Methe> mahlzeit: yeah but even if it does, I guess with the money Bill has, his son will have the time to end it's life before ruining his dad
[13:21:31] <@mahlzeit> money can go quickly
[13:22:18] <@mahlzeit> usually kids of millionaires spend all the parent's money :-)
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[13:24:03] <lemon> hello
[13:24:19] <@mahlzeit> hi lemon
[13:24:30] <lemon> is there any way to sync with haiku sources and build it ?
[13:24:30] <Methe> hello lemon
[13:24:38] <Methe> well mahlzeit tehre's millionaires and there's bill gates
[13:24:52] <@mahlzeit> http://home.tiscali.nl/mahlzeit/gettingstarted.html  <-- look here lemon
[13:25:29] <Methe> mahlzeit@I binded it
[13:25:33] <@mahlzeit> Methe: people of bill gates's level have fallen too, but i agree that he isn't the average millionaire ;-)
[13:26:57] <lemon> how is haiku openbeos and newos kernels are related ?
[13:28:02] <Methe> openbeos equal haiku
[13:28:10] <Methe> openbeos is old Haiku's name
[13:28:21] <Methe> and Haiku's kernel is forked from newOS kernel
[13:28:32] <Methe> was forked 1year ago
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[13:28:40] <Methe> am I right mahlzeit about the date ?
[13:28:53] <@mahlzeit> it>	i think it's longer ago
[13:30:10] <JBurton> yeah
[13:30:11] <lemon> does openbeos managment give attention to haiku/ppc ?
[13:30:19] <JBurton> like 2 and a half years ago
[13:30:32] <JBurton> or 2
[13:30:36] <[Beta]> 2:30:36 <[Beta]>	2 years, 5 months
[13:30:37] <JBurton> anyway, more than 1
[13:30:38] <JBurton> :P
[13:30:54] <[Beta]> hmm - who is ejakowatz ?
[13:31:16] <dos4> he doesn't do much [Beta]
[13:31:26] <dos4> why do you ask?
[13:31:38] <JBurton> he's Erik Jaesler
[13:31:45] <[Beta]> just names in the cvs logs that I dont reckonize.
[13:31:55] <JBurton> he does no longer work on haiku
[13:32:10] <[Beta]> shame
[13:32:41] <JBurton> dos4 [Beta]'s just a PalmSource lawyer. He's writing down the names of all haiku's contributors to sue them
[13:32:57] <[Beta]> lol, and i've got a good case too!
[13:33:53] <JBurton> :=)
[13:34:04] <[Beta]> for r1, and on, I presume we'll have a HaikuBook of our own?
[13:35:08] <JBurton> [Beta] hmmm can't remember the plan
[13:35:11] <JBurton> I guess, though
[13:35:24] <JBurton> I'm sure mahlzeit knows better
[13:35:33] * [Beta] pokes mahlzeit
[13:35:45] <@mahlzeit> hmm
[13:35:56] * Methe pokes [Beta] for poking mahlzeit
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[13:36:43] <[Beta]> its a very cool year to be in.
[13:36:56] <[Beta]> MMV
[13:37:35] <[Beta]> i'm just interesting in QAing the book - thats all
[13:37:50] <@mahlzeit> we discussed the haikubook several times
[13:38:07] <Teknomancer> haikubook .. is that haiku's BeBook API ?
[13:38:28] <@mahlzeit> looking through my email archives, it seems we decided to rewrite the bebook for r1
[13:39:02] <@mahlzeit> Teknomancer: no, it's the bebook but rewritten for haiku
[13:39:05] <[Beta]> well, the public api wont change Teknomancer. just get extended. at least for r1
[13:39:26] <Teknomancer> ok
[13:39:32] <Teknomancer> if it wont change
[13:39:37] <Teknomancer> why does it need to be rewritten ?
[13:39:44] <[Beta]> copyright I guess
[13:39:48] <@mahlzeit> because we don't own the copyright
[13:39:51] <[Beta]> plus its hideous html
[13:39:55] * [Beta] cackles
[13:40:20] <@mahlzeit> and because we need our own docs for r2 anyway, so r1 is a good foundation there too
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[13:40:56] <Methe> that's tricky
[13:41:05] <Methe> to rewrite something without copying
[13:41:11] <Methe> because bebook is c00lto read so
[13:41:11] <Teknomancer> BeBook is superb HTML
[13:41:12] <lemon> people, i see that kernel for now is not replaceable
[13:41:16] <[Beta]> very, because alot of it they covered.. plagarism is going to be :s
[13:41:38] <[Beta]> no, it really isnt Tekno. not semantic at all.
[13:42:15] <Methe> who is doing haikuBook atm ??
[13:42:26] <@mahlzeit> jeff biss
[13:42:33] <@mahlzeit> but he's slowly getting started
[13:42:34] <Methe> :o
[13:42:41] <Methe> ah k
[13:42:45] <[Beta]> Teknomancer: <br>
[13:42:45] <[Beta]> <FONT face=helvetica><b>Allocation:</b></font>&nbsp;Constructor only
[13:42:45] <[Beta]> <br>
[13:42:45] <[Beta]> <FONT face=helvetica><b>Summary:</b></font>&nbsp;
[13:42:45] <[Beta]> <A HREF="NetAddress.summary.html"><i>more...</i></A>
[13:42:50] * [Beta] hurls
[13:43:03] <Teknomancer> bah, its flawless to read.
[13:43:08] <Methe> what's the point [Beta] ?
[13:43:08] <[Beta]> are we using anything for it mahlzeit, docbook or anything ?
[13:43:12] <Teknomancer> who cares if they use <BR> ?
[13:43:14] <@mahlzeit> yeah docbook
[13:43:26] <[Beta]> because if its in a better format, we can do more with it
[13:43:40] <[Beta]> bebookfs ?
[13:44:00] <Methe> if I remember correctly it exists a script or sthing that makes a beBook out of XML pages
[13:44:13] <Methe> if it's not doxygen it's homemade by a friend
[13:44:15] <[Beta]> piss-easy pdf generation, support for visual impairment, accessiblity.
[13:44:18] <Methe> cant remember
[13:44:52] <Methe> [Beta]: HTML is lighter
[13:45:09] <[Beta]> ? erm, i'm recommending it
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[13:45:15] <[Beta]> xHTML to be precise
[13:46:55] <Teknomancer> is using const char *const kHello = "xx", *const kHey = "cc";    a good way to store STRING constants in Header files ??
[13:47:52] * Methe likes #DEFINE for string constants :)
[13:48:17] <[Beta]> Methe: http://www.david-reid.com/cynic/index.php?p=38 that ?
[13:48:41] <Methe> nope [Beta]
[13:48:45] <Teknomancer> Methe but using const char* const isn't incorrect or anything right ?
[13:48:49] <Methe> but intreesting
[13:49:13] <Methe> const char *const is a contant pointer on a constant string
[13:49:31] <Teknomancer> yes i know.
[13:49:38] <@mahlzeit> Teknomancer: wouldn't that cause a duplicate symbol error when you include the .h in more than one .cpp file?
[13:49:43] <Teknomancer> is it all right to use those instead of #DEFINE
[13:49:48] <Teknomancer> mahlzeit nope
[13:49:55] <Methe> mahlzeit: yeah was just gonna say it too :)
[13:49:55] <Teknomancer> mahlzeit been using it all the time.
[13:50:09] <Methe> so
[13:50:12] <Methe> if u like it
[13:50:14] <Methe> and it works
[13:50:20] <Methe> where's the problem ?
[13:50:21] <@mahlzeit> personally, i think it's ugly :-)
[13:50:21] <Methe> :x
[13:50:27] * Methe too
[13:50:54] <Teknomancer> mahlzeit so just const char * ?
[13:51:06] <@mahlzeit> nah, #define :-)
[13:51:20] <@mahlzeit> but you should use whatever makes you feel happy
[13:51:27] * Methe pets mahlzeit
[13:51:31] <Methe> true too
[13:51:49] <JBurton> Teknomancer or static const char * const
[13:51:50] <JBurton> :)
[13:51:59] * Methe slaps JBurton. u lamer
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[13:52:19] <[Beta]> heh
[13:52:28] <Methe> argh I had a question for JBurton
[13:52:39] <Methe> I'll assk tonight
[13:52:44] <Methe> got to go to school
[13:52:49] <Methe> grrrrrr english course
[13:53:10] <JBurton> Methe hmmm tonight ?
[13:53:15] <JBurton> as when ?
[13:53:20] <Methe> 4PM ?
[13:53:24] <Methe> fine 2 u ?
[13:53:31] <Methe> but I can ask another day lol
[13:53:33] <JBurton> if we are in the same timezone, yes
[13:53:40] <Methe> JBurton lol where are u
[13:53:43] <Methe> in italia
[13:53:43] <JBurton> Italia
[13:53:45] <JBurton> yes
[13:53:50] <Methe> I'm in France
[13:53:52] <JBurton> ah ok
[13:53:57] <Methe> and have always been :x
[13:53:58] <JBurton> I'll be here
[13:53:59] <JBurton> :P
[13:54:04] <Methe> c u then
[13:54:08] <Methe> hf every1
[13:54:22] * Methe hihi @ IRC-stylish suxing typo
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[13:56:55] <Teknomancer> ok thanks all
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[14:06:26] <JBurton> hi mmu_man
[14:06:41] <@mmu_man> plop
[14:06:46] <Teknomancer> ;-P
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[14:21:59] <Teknomancer> SirMik.
[14:22:04] <SirMik> ah hi :)
[14:22:23] <Teknomancer> welcome :-)
[14:22:29] <Begasus> plop
[14:22:47] <SirMik> Teknomancer: thnx
[14:22:59] <SirMik> Teknomancer like Beshare better :)
[14:23:56] <Teknomancer> hehe :-)
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[14:33:16] <CIA-5> jackburton * current/src/kits/interface/ (Menu.cpp MenuBar.cpp MenuItem.cpp): implemented B_ITEMS_IN_MATRIX layout correctly. Small cleanups all around.
[14:35:56] <JBurton> obligatory screenshots:
[14:35:58] <JBurton> http://burton666.neoni.net/menu_selection.jpg
[14:36:04] <JBurton> http://burton666.neoni.net/menu_in_matrix.jpg
[14:36:24] <JBurton> it's not perfect, mind you
[14:38:06] <dos4> progress is good
[14:38:54] <JBurton> yeah
[14:39:16] <dos4> hi mmu_man are you here?
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[14:39:44] <JBurton> ha, so you were "disguised", Dr_Evil :P
[14:40:13] <Dr_Evil> I wasn't hiding
[14:40:16] <Begasus> well you know he's Evil <bg>
[14:40:48] <JBurton> Dr_Evil well yeah, I just didnt' know you were ... er, you were you
[14:40:49] <@mmu_man> plop do
[14:40:53] <@mmu_man> plop Dr_Evil
[14:41:02] <@mmu_man> btw, fixed a nasty one in dosfs
[14:41:14] <Dr_Evil> uhh, great
[14:41:15] <@mmu_man> returning an error btu leaving *len !=0
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[14:41:36] <Dr_Evil> mmu_man can you please send me a traceroute to ftp.overhagen.de ?
[14:41:37] <@mmu_man> I was wondering why grep was eating up the ram =)
[14:41:51] <@mmu_man> sutre
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[14:49:41] <@mmu_man> no wonder why dosfs is sooo slow
[14:49:52] <@mmu_man> there is a single big volume lock
[14:50:06] <JBurton> hmmm great
[14:50:25] <@mmu_man> let's fix that :)
[14:52:17] <JBurton> go!
[14:52:27] <JBurton> gooo!
[14:52:28] <JBurton> gooooooo!
[14:55:38] <JBurton> mmu_man add some random locks around
[14:55:43] <JBurton> that will make it faster :)
[14:56:06] <@mmu_man> first a multi-reader single-writer lock on the FAT
[14:56:14] <@mmu_man> and maybe node locking
[14:56:25] <@mmu_man> that should help :)
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[15:00:51] <Fanskapet> hmm anyone know if this 4in1 device is any good?
[15:01:03] <Fanskapet> or is it just crap?
[15:01:15] <JBurton> hmmmm windows Fanskapet ?
[15:01:22] <Fanskapet> ahh no
[15:01:32] <JBurton> ah sorry
[15:01:36] <Fanskapet> I have a device called 4in1 instead of an ordinary floppy on my new laptop
[15:01:37] <JBurton> I read "4in1 driver"
[15:01:40] <JBurton> :P
[15:01:43] <JBurton> no idea
[15:01:51] <Fanskapet> looks like a memorycard
[15:01:53] <Fanskapet> hmm okey.
[15:02:09] <JBurton> I'm broken
[15:02:16] <JBurton> (by Pantera)
[15:02:18] <JBurton> ^_^
[15:02:39] <Fanskapet> ahh. great.. even windows didn't support all my hardware as standard :) i wonder how much BeOS will support.. *shrugs*
[15:03:33] <@mmu_man> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=134685&cid=11243879 [ahhh, google...]
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[15:05:55] <@mmu_man> plop!
[15:08:14] <JBurton> hi BGA
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[15:38:08] <JBurton> brb coffee
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[15:49:20] <@AndrewBachmann> mmu_man do you know about centrino laptop video + beos
[15:49:30] <@AndrewBachmann> it's Intel Extreme Graphics 2 (855GME chipset)
[15:49:58] <JBurton> hey AndrewBachmann
[15:51:40] <@mmu_man> hmm no
[15:51:59] <@AndrewBachmann> I wonder if I can use the 810 driver
[15:52:16] <@AndrewBachmann> if I change the card code
[15:52:32] <JBurton> AndrewBachmann, the driver haxor
[15:52:34] <JBurton> :P
[15:53:31] <@AndrewBachmann> :-P
[15:53:35] <@AndrewBachmann> ok anyway gtg
[15:53:47] <JBurton> bye AndrewBachmann
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[15:57:38] <@Dr_Evil> AndrewBachmann YOU CAN'T USE THE 810 DRIVER FOR 855G GRAPHICS
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[15:59:44] <JBurton> wb Methe
[15:59:55] <Methe> ahah
[15:59:59] <Methe> I was sure of that
[15:59:59] <@Dr_Evil> AndrewBachmann I have both datasheets, and they really have nothing in common
[16:00:12] <Methe> that u'd jump on me. =]
[16:00:16] <JBurton> Methe :)
[16:00:52] <Methe> 2sec :]
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[16:03:53] <Methe> JBurton I saw your checkin of Menu
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[16:04:17] <Methe> where u stated u had'nt done a drawing
[16:04:22] <Methe> like menubar == 2
[16:04:56] * Methe goes into CVS
[16:05:39] <JBurton> yes, I remember
[16:05:43] <JBurton> it was BSeparatorItem
[16:05:49] <JBurton> not menubar
[16:05:50] <JBurton> IIRC
[16:06:25] <JBurton> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/open-beos/current/src/kits/interface/SeparatorItem.cpp?rev=1.2&view=log
[16:06:41] <Methe> indeed
[16:06:50] <Methe> have gone through BeBook
[16:06:56] <JBurton> yes ?
[16:07:02] <Methe> and have't seen a blasted example of how style 2 should look like
[16:07:13] <JBurton> well, open your "Menu" pref app
[16:07:26] * Methe autoslop. Im fkn too dumb
[16:07:30] <JBurton> ^________^
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[16:07:57] <Methe> then I'll try to code it for you :]]
[16:08:06] <Methe> Just got to understand the little funcs u're calling
[16:08:19] <JBurton> ok :P
[16:08:45] <Methe> where are there defined: tint_colr & ui_color ?
[16:09:13] <JBurton> InterfaceDefs.h, IIRC
[16:09:14] <@Dr_Evil> GraphicsDefs.h or InterfaceDefs.h  perhaps
[16:09:17] <JBurton> or GraphicsDefs :)
[16:09:24] <Methe> thx
[16:09:28] <Methe> gonna look taht up
[16:09:55] <Methe> It'll take 3 more times than if u guys did it directly but well. If it can spare you time ..... :]]
[16:10:47] <JBurton> well, I'm simply not going to do it :P
[16:10:53] <Methe> ah
[16:10:56] <JBurton> I hate doing those things :)))
[16:11:01] <Methe> then if I can. I'll gladly sent it to you :]
[16:11:05] <JBurton> ok thanks
[16:11:08] <JBurton> :)
[16:11:19] <Methe> no pb. For once that my poor skill & knowledge can be any help
[16:12:08] <JBurton> ahah you shouldn't understimate yourself like that
[16:12:24] <Methe> well, maybe i'm not
[16:13:27] <JBurton> btw... I guess you want to be able to test our BMenu*** implementatio, right ?
[16:13:30] <JBurton> implementation
[16:14:17] <Methe> well. I was planning to simply test the drawing code
[16:14:21] <Methe> for simplicity
[16:14:35] <JBurton> ok, it's better
[16:14:37] <JBurton> right
[16:14:40] <JBurton> good idea
[16:14:47] <Methe> :]
[16:15:44] <Methe> where are the *.h in the tree lol ?
[16:15:59] <JBurton> "/current/headers
[16:27:33] <CIA-5> mmu_man * current/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/dos/ (dosfs.h file.c): report error correctly (*len = 0) when read()ing a dir; some comments; don't tell BEOS:TYPE changed for folders since they don't have it.
[16:29:15] <@mmu_man> ahh :)
[16:31:53] <JBurton> hah, mmu_man the C haxor
[16:31:53] <JBurton> :P
[16:31:59] <@mmu_man> bbl
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[16:33:35] <JBurton> hi Koki
[16:34:18] <Konrad> Hello JBurton, nice work on the menus
[16:34:54] <Koki> hello JBurton
[16:34:59] <Koki> bon jorno
[16:38:28] <JBurton> Konrad oh, thanks :P
[16:38:40] <JBurton> buona sera, Koki, it's already evening here :P
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[16:54:56] <Koki> JBurton, aqui en California sono 8:00AM
[16:57:48] * Koki is idle: breakfast
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[17:01:18] <lechu_mys> hellp
[17:01:21] <lechu_mys> hello ;]
[17:01:49] <lemon> hello
[17:02:20] <lechu_mys> do you know anything how is GUI status ?
[17:05:01] <lechu_mys> :|
[17:05:17] <CIA-5> jackburton * current/src/kits/interface/ (Menu.cpp MenuWindow.cpp): Added some todo items, cleanups. Removed the frame parameter from BMenuWindow as it's not needed.
[17:05:50] <lechu_mys> uh ..
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[17:05:58] <CIA-5> jackburton * current/headers/private/interface/MenuWindow.h: Removed the frame parameter from BMenuWindow
[17:06:03] <lechu_mys> i wrote some letters to Hiku
[17:06:09] <lechu_mys> Haiku
[17:06:14] <lechu_mys> but no answer :|
[17:06:23] <JBurton> hmmm to which address ?
[17:06:30] <lechu_mys> i dont remember :|
[17:06:33] <JBurton> heh
[17:06:38] <lechu_mys> eh
[17:06:43] <JBurton> well, I'm sure it wasn't haiku at haiku dot org :P
[17:06:45] <@Dr_Evil> which address?
[17:06:58] <lechu_mys> i think i can help with making graphics
[17:07:24] <lechu_mys> eh .. i dont remember .. sorry :|
[17:07:55] <lechu_mys> i can make some icons .. and others :>
[17:08:02] <lechu_mys> it they need any help ..
[17:09:19] <lechu_mys> so ? :>
[17:09:38] <@Dr_Evil> well, I would like to say: write an email
[17:09:44] <lechu_mys> ;]
[17:10:07] <lechu_mys> hih
[17:10:59] <lechu_mys> mmm .. Dr_Evil .. i think i know you ;]
[17:11:29] <lechu_mys> via .. ICQ or .. other instant ..
[17:12:26] <lechu_mys> uh .. i remember :)
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[17:12:52] <lechu_mys> i think it was ICQ
[17:13:19] <lechu_mys> and you send me some your Zeta Wallpapers
[17:13:24] <lechu_mys> ;]
[17:14:16] <lechu_mys> sorry but haiku-os.org dont work
[17:14:26] <JBurton> er, I know
[17:14:29] <lechu_mys> can you give me an email ?
[17:14:44] <JBurton> er, of who ?
[17:14:47] <JBurton> mine ?
[17:14:51] <lechu_mys> eee
[17:14:52] <lechu_mys> no
[17:15:01] <lechu_mys> an 03 16:15:01 <lechu_mys>	an email to haiku ;]
[17:15:04] <lechu_mys> i dont know ;]
[17:15:13] <JBurton> heh
[17:15:17] <lechu_mys> sorry .. ;]
[17:15:26] <@Dr_Evil> mphipps1 at rochester dot rr.c
[17:15:26] <@Dr_Evil> om
[17:15:41] <@Dr_Evil> well, use mphipps1 at rochester dot rr.com
[17:15:44] <lechu_mys> Dr Evil
[17:15:50] <lechu_mys> ok ok
[17:16:03] <JBurton> that's the most official mail to haiku you can get
[17:16:13] <lechu_mys> ok
[17:16:15] <lechu_mys> thanks
[17:16:30] <lechu_mys> need any help  ?
[17:16:50] <lechu_mys> because i remember ... Dr Evil could make graphics
[17:17:17] <lechu_mys> i still have some on my hdd ;]
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[17:18:13] * Dr_Evil isn't into graphics
[17:18:25] <lechu_mys> eh .. sorry
[17:18:45] <lechu_mys> i dont know how i can say it in english ;]
[17:18:58] <lechu_mys> after new year .. i'm still :|
[17:20:12] <lechu_mys> eh .. ok whatever ;]
[17:20:25] <lechu_mys> i'll write an email ;]
[17:20:41] <lechu_mys> and i want to help .. ;]
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[17:22:53] <lechu_mys> ok
[17:22:56] <lechu_mys> i must go
[17:23:28] <lechu_mys> big thnx and bigger sorry for everything ;]
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[17:25:42] <lechu_mys> eh .. ok ;]
[17:25:45] <lechu_mys> bye ;]
[17:25:51] <lechu_mys> =))
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[17:46:42] <JBurton> bye all
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[19:55:45] <fyysik> hi ppl
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[19:57:56] <Monni> pretty dead here...
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[20:18:15] <tqh> yep
[20:18:45] <tic> hey tqh
[20:18:52] <tqh> hey
[20:19:46] * tic is testing the vnc server from within windows
[20:23:11] * tqh should probably install it to be able to do some FF building while at work.
[20:23:29] <Konrad> Thats an good idea tqh
[20:23:40] <tic> yeah. it's atble, but not yet very fast
[20:27:58] <tqh> Unfortunatly I don't have much spare time at work.
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[20:38:46] <fyysik> tqh, i met weird situation with gcc 2.953. It really produces Mozilla which cannot be executed under netserver, while starts ok under BONE
[20:39:16] <fyysik> inspite i'm building it under netserver
[20:42:23] <tqh> I read it, sounds like missing library to me.
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[20:43:15] <tqh> From terminal it never reports what library is missing but launching from deskbar does.
[20:43:28] <fyysik> it isn't. at least it don't complain about missing symbol, which usually happens in case of missing library
[20:43:31] <AnEvilYak> tqh: terminal will report in syslog
[20:43:43] <fyysik> it just says "cannot execute binary"
[20:43:47] <tqh> hmm
[20:44:28] <tqh> Oh, it says 'sh: ./firefox-bin: Missing library'
[20:44:38] <tic> so double click itc.
[20:44:41] <tic> and you'll see it in Tracker.
[20:44:48] <tqh> fyysik: That seems very weird
[20:44:50] <tic> mm, sweet sweet svorak again.
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[20:45:22] <tqh> tic, nah, I just had to see what it says when libraries are missing and launching from Terminal.
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[20:46:57] <tqh> hmm, well I have no clue about what it can be then.
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[20:59:58] * fyysik changed his userpict in LJ - enjoy - http://www.livejournal.com/userpic/24160346/134134
[21:00:41] <Fanskapet> agh.! BeOS did not work well on my laptop :/ can't even start the Zeta installation :/
[21:00:43] <Fanskapet> well well
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[21:03:50] <tic> fan: patch?
[21:04:21] <Fanskapet> tic, patch?
[21:04:31] <Fanskapet> can't patch it when not even the installation works :)
[21:04:43] <Fanskapet> maybe a patched R5 could work.. but the Zeta issue seems a bit strange
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[21:08:23] <tic> get a patched R5 and install
[21:08:26] <tic> then install zeta, and patch it.
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[21:10:27] <tqh> fyysik Nice
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[21:27:43] <NathanW> hey BGA
[21:27:55] <dos4> oh hey NathanW!
[21:28:38] <NathanW> hi dos4
[21:29:31] <fyysik> what happened with Dr_Evil's site?
[21:29:35] <@BGA> NathanW!
[21:29:37] <dos4> oops, need new nick
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[21:29:52] <Dr_Evil> fyysik will reappear in a few days
[21:29:53] <fyysik> mad-scientist i mean
[21:30:03] <fyysik> changing hoster?
[21:30:09] <Dr_Evil> I just need to configure that new dedicated linux server box
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[21:30:16] <Dr_Evil> don't know how to do that yet
[21:30:27] <Dr_Evil> and DNS changes will need 24 hours to propagate
[21:30:32] <Bernd> hi
[21:30:39] <Dr_Evil> fyysik yes, changing hoster
[21:30:43] <Bernd> happy new year to all
[21:30:50] <Bernd> NathanW are you here?
[21:30:56] <NathanW> hi Bernd
[21:31:32] <fyysik> Is Oliver Tappe visiting this channel sometimes?
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[21:31:49] <Dr_Evil> fyysik not that I know
[21:32:28] <@mmu_man> the linker
[21:32:34] <@mmu_man> EBADWIN
[21:32:40] <fyysik> ?
[21:32:48] <Dr_Evil> lol
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[21:36:22] <NathanW> Does anyone know if axeld's working on an HTML text translator too?
[21:36:42] <NathanW> It would be nice for BeMail...
[21:37:19] <NathanW> And I don't want to duplicate work
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[21:38:50] <tqh> He probably is as he seems to be working on everything :P
[21:38:57] <NathanW> haha
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[21:42:04] * fyysik wish to be some open source sponsoring foundation supervisor, to provide some donation to axeld. Like EUR 10 000 to let him work at haiku 2-3 months full time:)
[21:42:23] <NathanW> heh - yeah
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[21:43:11] <@mmu_man> let's buy him some coke and crackers
[21:43:15] <@mmu_man> and pizzas
[21:43:19] <@mmu_man> all he needs
[21:43:21] <Bernd> haha
[21:43:24] <@mmu_man> ni the basement
[21:43:35] <Bernd> i remember when mmu_man was in Mannheim in the office
[21:43:40] <Bernd> he worked for around 26 hours
[21:43:41] <fyysik> actually open source software should follow science financing model - development and research grants for projects
[21:43:42] <DaaT> why cokes and crackers? Just coke
[21:43:48] <Bernd> then his had knocked down to the keyboard
[21:43:52] <Bernd> and he slept around 2 hours
[21:44:03] <Bernd> then his had lifted up as nothing would have been happend
[21:44:04] <@mmu_man> Bernd didn"t you sign an NDA ???
[21:44:07] <@mmu_man> :p
[21:44:09] <Bernd> and he started to code again *LOL
[21:44:13] <Bernd> it was SO funny !!!
[21:44:24] <Bernd> i think he didnt knwo that he had a "shutdown"
[21:44:42] <fyysik> rather suspend/hybernate
[21:44:57] <Bernd> yeah
[21:45:03] <fyysik> probably he started from same point
[21:45:08] <Bernd> to bad that we made no video :)
[21:45:11] <Bernd> he DID!
[21:45:17] <@mmu_man> that's the problem with APM, the BIOS does it behind your back
[21:45:20] <@mmu_man> :p
[21:45:23] <tqh> I think the cpu was processing some heavy task :)
[21:45:32] <Bernd> haha
[21:47:05] <fyysik> reboot. trying to crate report for Oliver
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[21:47:17] <DaaT> mmu_man, btw, make APM work with my laptop :)
[21:47:27] <DaaT> you have... 28 hours to do it, with 2 of sleep included
[21:47:32] <@mmu_man> DaaT well apm does work
[21:47:38] <@mmu_man> but you must stay in vesa mode :)
[21:47:59] <Dr_Evil> SMM - system management mode
[21:48:00] <DaaT> eeewww
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[21:58:28] <fyysik> !ChanServ news
[21:58:43] <fyysik> !seen fyysik
[21:58:51] <Bernd> watch a mirror :)
[21:58:55] <fyysik> !ChanServ seen fyysik
[21:59:15] <fyysik> eghm, and what for that nick registration is?
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[22:02:57] <tic> huh?
[22:02:58] <tic> :)
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[22:08:03] <AnEvilYak> fyysik: /cs
[22:08:11] <AnEvilYak> fyysik: /cs help for chanserv commands
[22:08:18] <DaaT> counter-strike!
[22:09:10] <fyysik> btw, this is boring. No server tells me everytime that fyysik is not me, and asking for identification. So wondering, how to remove my nick from registration:(
[22:09:21] <fyysik> s/No/Now
[22:10:13] <AnEvilYak> fyysik: that's because it matches against hostmask
[22:10:37] <AnEvilYak> fyysik: try /ns set secure on
[22:10:52] <AnEvilYak> and set kill on
[22:13:46] <fyysik> NickServ- Kill Protection is disabled on this network
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[22:14:56] <ahwayakchih> hih>	hi all
[22:15:13] <ahwayakchih> fyysik have You tried to run it from Tracker (to get missing symbol name :)
[22:15:14] <ahwayakchih> ?
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[22:17:50] <fyysik> don't worok, and tells something similar, like not executable or such
[22:18:52] <ahwayakchih> hmm.. that's strange
[22:19:09] <ahwayakchih> ok, can You tell me exact error message?
[22:19:22] <ahwayakchih> does it mention missing symbol?
[22:19:31] <fyysik> no, it don't as i said
[22:19:34] <fyysik> wait a minute
[22:20:07] <fyysik> should reboot to netserver. Under bone it starts
[22:20:22] <ahwayakchih> hmm
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[22:20:35] <@mmu_man> cvs diff -u -r1.4 -r1.5 src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/dos/dosfs.c
[22:20:45] * mmu_man slaps NathanW for putting non-R5 includes there
[22:20:59] <tic> heh.
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[22:23:07] <fyysik> damn, obviously i should kill that stupid registration
[22:23:15] <ahwayakchih> :)
[22:23:49] <fyysik> ahwayakchih - at morning
[22:24:00] <fyysik> currently it is built with 2.9
[22:24:13] <ahwayakchih> :)
[22:24:13] <fyysik> so cleaning, configuring, makeing
[22:24:15] <ahwayakchih> ok
[22:24:46] <ahwayakchih> one thing: i was getting "not executable" type error when i first tried new binutils with 2.x gcc - maybe You have something wrongly installed?
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[22:25:14] <Bernd> thaflo?
[22:25:18] 
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[22:25:34] <thaflo> ja :-
[22:25:34] <ahwayakchih> (i also was getting that error with 3.x - binutils needs to be patched for BeOS to not generate one symbol - Oliver Tappe found it)
[22:25:41] <thaflo> :-)
[22:25:44] <fyysik> ahwayakchih - but why it starts under bone? and why VLC don't suffer from that problem?
[22:26:12] <ahwayakchih> fyysik hmm, You're right, maybe it's not that type of rerror :)
[22:26:36] <fyysik> it seems don't link some bootstrap code
[22:26:53] <ahwayakchih> fyysik yep, it may be - maybe it's linked as shared library?
[22:26:59] <fyysik> like some main() parts
[22:27:09] <thaflo> Freu mich schon auf morgen, ich nehm mal meine Gitarre mit
[22:27:11] <ahwayakchih> right
[22:27:13] <@mmu_man> hmm actually -r1.3 -r 1.4 is the interesting one
[22:27:28] <ahwayakchih> fyysik does it work with default specs file?
[22:28:01] <fyysik> ahwayakchih - with default specs it don't build under netserver at all, as you explained yourself to me:)
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[22:28:04] <ahwayakchih> (ie. compiled and linked uing default specs, not ".r5" one)
[22:28:24] <ahwayakchih> fyysik ah, right :) but maybe try to just add -lnet to specs file?
[22:28:33] 
[22:28:41] <ahwayakchih> (to default one)
[22:28:43] <fyysik> and when i manually forced to use libnet with default specs, it behaved in same way
[22:28:52] <ahwayakchih> fyysik ah :(
[22:28:58] <fyysik> cannot execute
[22:29:18] <fyysik> maybe there is something about default stack size?
[22:29:19] <Bernd> thaflo *LOL
[22:29:28] <fyysik> is there such definition in specs?
[22:29:41] <ahwayakchih> fyysik hmm AFAIK no
[22:31:58] <ahwayakchih> fyysik was "makefile" (or whatever is used for mozilla" changed lately? maybe someone changed something and broke r5 build?
[22:32:04] <ahwayakchih> (r5 netserver)
[22:33:06] <Bernd> good night all
[22:33:17] <fyysik> no, i as i tried it with very different sources, one from begining of 2004, second from end
[22:33:45] <fyysik> ahwayakchih - and again, it builds
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[22:34:01] <fyysik> and if it is built with 2.9 - it starts nicely
[22:34:51] <fyysik> also that crash under Dano/Zeta
[22:35:09] <fyysik> it happens only if built with gcc 2.953
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[22:35:31] <fyysik> works fine with R5+bone7a
[22:35:48] <ahwayakchih> fyysik that's really strange :(
[22:35:52] <fyysik> ik>	i mean 1.7a version currently at bebits
[22:37:21] <ahwayakchih> fyysik try to get exact error message, maybe that will help something. also have You tried that syslog thing Oliver mentioned?
[22:37:38] <fyysik> ahwayakchih - at morning
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[22:37:42] <ahwayakchih> fyysik ok
[22:37:45] <fyysik> no such version here at moment
[22:37:49] <fyysik> which i can to try
[22:38:08] <fyysik> as i rebuilt it with 2.9 for testing and publishing
[22:39:38] <fyysik> bbl
[22:40:04] <ahwayakchih> fyysik looks like default and r5 specs are different only at one line, only by "-lnet" so i guess it's not specs file thing...
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[22:44:09] <Dr_Evil> -lnet is an error and should be removed
[22:44:47] <ahwayakchih> Dr_Evil from where? specs file? yes You're right :)
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[22:47:21] <Dr_Evil> yes
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[22:50:51] <ahwayakchih> Dr_Evil thing is fyysik (and others) probably wants to work on actual code and not on stupid makefiles/configure/whatever hell. That's why it's easier to just use -lnet in specs :)
[22:51:54] <mmadia> liquidboy: plfiorini is in #mockup if you want to ask him about it
[22:51:57] <ahwayakchih> config files can be patched properly later
[22:52:15] <ahwayakchih> (or first if it's too much work to workaround them ;)
[22:52:19] <liquidboy> mmadia: i didnt ask a question...
[22:52:27] <liquidboy> did you mean someone else?
[22:52:56] <mmadia> liquidboy: no, you.   a few days ago we were talking about #mockup and you had some questions that i couldnt answer
[22:53:23] <liquidboy> aaahhh
[22:53:34] <liquidboy> now that i remember, i can
[22:53:39] <liquidboy> t exactly remember what they were
[22:53:41] <liquidboy> :P
[22:54:06] <ahwayakchih> good night everyone
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[22:59:08] <liquidboy> iquidboy>	i think plfiorini is away or something
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[23:10:40] <Sg_Henry> hi
[23:10:53] <slaad> 'lo
[23:10:59] <Begasus> ho
[23:11:56] <DaaT> bork
[23:11:56] <DaaT> :P
[23:12:55] <Begasus> hi DaaT ;)
[23:16:02] <DaaT> hey Begasus
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[23:23:58] <fyysik> dropped registration
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[23:38:01] <CIA-5> mmu_man * current/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/dos/ (encodings.cpp file.c mime_table.c):
[23:38:01] <CIA-5> because uni_str is incremented in utf8_to_u_hostendian() UNICODE is moved inside
[23:38:01] <CIA-5> the loop in _utf8_to_sjis_bendian() to avoid crashing. (it points to a single
[23:38:01] <CIA-5> unicode char!!) (other option is to not increment uni_str, but it's kept for
[23:38:01] <CIA-5> consistency).
[23:38:02] <CIA-5> some cosmetic changes
[23:38:12] <tic> go mmu_man!
[23:39:11] <fyysik> mmu_man - did you add ability to set dosfs encoding in kernel/drivers/settings ?
[23:39:31] <fyysik> that's quite essential
[23:41:16] * Dr_Evil opens a beer. *plop*
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[23:43:04] <ConneX> fyysik, sorry to bother you, but i hope you can answear why my Firefox outputs Signature in rsrc doesn't match constructor arg. (application/x-vnd.Mozilla,application/x-vnd.Firefox) when it wont start?
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[23:44:22] <Dr_Evil> ConneX thats because the signature in rsrc doesn't match constructor arg
[23:44:33] <Dr_Evil> BApplication constructor
[23:45:17] <ConneX> hmm
[23:45:18] <ConneX> yea
[23:46:54] <slaad> The resource signature overrides the constructor, doesn't it?
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[23:50:47] <fyysik> ConneX - old thing, must be fixed in new build
[23:51:32] * tic wants a new 'puter
[23:51:56] <ConneX> fyysik, its quite old.. trying to update it :)
[23:52:08] <fyysik> no sense
[23:52:16] <fyysik> no proper FF build at moment
[23:52:34] <fyysik> look if you find some better working at bezilla blog
[23:52:42] <@mmu_man> fyysik not yet
[23:53:01] <fyysik> LoLL from France made two or 3 working newer builds
[23:54:54] <slaad> Me too tic, me too.
[23:55:03] <slaad> I need to buy a case to set up an IM Kit server.
[23:57:56] <tic> aha.
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[23:58:18] <tic> got myself a geforce fx5700 today, and the TFTs hooked up to it.
[23:58:29] <tic> So I'm kinda looking at a single-fan Dothan system.
[23:58:38] <tic> oh well. should be sleeping, taking care of my wrist instead of typing.
[23:58:41] <tic> night!





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