[00:06:56] * ShackaN wishes a happy new year to all the devs around here [00:07:53] <@Dr_Evil> happy new year! [00:08:01] <@Dr_Evil> it's finally 2005 [00:10:30] <Greyhawk_Dragon> Yes! [00:10:36] <Greyhawk_Dragon> Happy new year! [00:22:14] *** MikeW has quit IRC [01:04:20] <[Beta]> Happy New Year GMT :) [01:11:22] *** Methe_ has joined #haiku [01:11:32] <Methe_> Happy new year Hiaku peeps ? [01:11:34] <Methe_> !!!!!!!!!!!! [01:12:30] <[Beta]> :) [01:13:22] <BeMonni> one more build and then I do cvs diff [01:14:16] <Methe_> :DDDDDDD [01:14:37] <BeMonni> posix headers seem to be totally broken so someone else can fix them ;) [01:14:48] *** Methe has quit IRC [01:15:22] <Methe_> bon v aller promener le toutu [01:15:28] <Methe_> gonna walk the dog :D [01:15:30] <Methe_> on the beach [01:15:32] <Methe_> ^^ [01:25:25] *** TLF has joined #haiku [01:47:21] *** MikeW has joined #haiku [01:47:46] <MikeW> happy new year all [01:48:54] <ShackaN> BeMonni, are you a developer ? never seen ya before [01:49:41] <[Beta]> developers hide in the woodwork, you should know that ShackaN [01:50:02] <[Beta]> not enjoying New Years'? [01:50:25] <ShackaN> ehm, sure [01:51:00] <ShackaN> I am enjoying tonight the same way I enjoy every night [01:51:01] <ShackaN> ... [01:51:21] <ShackaN> why should be today any different? [01:51:30] <Methe_> true dat [01:51:45] <Methe_> No difference AT ALL [01:51:52] <[Beta]> true, just wondering. [01:52:15] <ShackaN> :) [01:52:46] <[Beta]> it's my first new year here.. other channels i've been in for years. [01:53:59] <reffie> so you irc during new year? [01:54:07] <ShackaN> that's indeed my first new year on irc [01:54:36] <ShackaN> reffie, aren't you ? [01:54:47] <reffie> it's in more than 4 hours! [01:54:51] <reffie> here [01:55:00] <ShackaN> uh, where here ? [01:55:01] <[Beta]> just nearly 1am here. [01:55:12] <reffie> east coast, usa [01:55:43] <ShackaN> here it is.. gasp! 2 am!!! [01:55:44] <[Beta]> yeah, i've never been a "drink 'cause the years a'changing". and my friends do, so I get quiet time :) [01:57:14] *** Koki has quit IRC [02:05:39] *** ShackaN has quit IRC [02:10:50] <Begasus> happy newyear to all you peeps [02:34:41] <Greyhawk_Dragon> :-) [02:34:50] <Greyhawk_Dragon> Happy new year. [02:39:28] <BeMonni> Begasus ;) [02:39:42] <Begasus> BeMonni ;) [02:39:50] <Begasus> happy newyear ;) [02:40:00] <BeMonni> Begasus: cross your fingers... going to do cvs diff soon... [02:40:12] *** Dr_Evil has quit IRC [02:40:20] *** TLF has quit IRC [02:40:28] * Begasus crossing fingers [02:40:44] <Begasus> hehe shatty dropped allready :P [02:41:04] <BeMonni> Begasus: I guess he drops when he sees how many bytes the diff is... [02:41:21] <Begasus> LOL [02:42:14] <BeMonni> Begasus: I'm not going to fix all issues... Need to wait until someone fixes posix headers... [02:42:44] <Begasus> well all small fixes are fixes BeMonni ;) [02:43:03] <BeMonni> Begasus: Well... Let's see how small _this_ fix will be ;) [02:43:17] *** Greyhawk_Dragon has quit IRC [02:43:19] <Begasus> ;) [02:43:56] <BeMonni> Begasus: I know if it is funny commited, a lot of people need to do full rebuild of the tree... so many files changed ;) [02:44:43] <Begasus> hmm have to wait a few days to check out cvs then :) [02:45:19] <BeMonni> Begasus: It's full of hacks and workarounds... If enough people notice them... Maybe they change the system headers so that the hacks are no longer required... [02:46:15] <Begasus> hmm hacks in Haiku code? [02:46:28] <BeMonni> Begasus: It seems so... [02:46:32] <Begasus> didn't include your libmonni.so? :P [02:46:47] <BeMonni> Begasus: And I know shatty likes to make hacks, dunno about others.... [02:47:11] <BeMonni> Begasus: Well... I guess I have to include libhentai.so instead.... too dirty code... [02:47:26] <Begasus> hehe [02:47:50] <Begasus> well it could get the atention of some people :P [02:48:01] <BeMonni> I wonder how many hidden messages I didn't find yet... [02:48:11] <Begasus> :P [02:48:46] <BeMonni> like the mandatory hello world ;) all operating systems need to have it by default ;) [02:51:27] <BeMonni> I guess it's time for me to go to sleep... I guess it has finished compiling when I wake up... [02:54:05] <Begasus> if you hurry :P [02:59:08] *** nPHYN1T3 has quit IRC [03:04:56] *** gipfex has quit IRC [03:10:00] *** gipfex has joined #haiku [03:24:59] <Begasus> still awake BeMonni? :P [03:26:50] <[Beta]> nn peeps [03:36:28] *** Master199 has joined #haiku [03:53:17] *** gipfex has quit IRC [04:02:43] *** Potn has joined #haiku [04:12:20] *** bogomipz has joined #haiku [04:12:27] *** voidref has quit IRC [04:19:32] *** gipfex has joined #haiku [04:19:58] *** Methe_ has quit IRC [04:23:29] *** M199 has joined #haiku [04:24:06] *** gipfex has quit IRC [04:27:01] *** AnEvilYak has quit IRC [04:33:09] *** Master199 has quit IRC [04:36:40] *** Potn has quit IRC [04:37:26] *** Potn has joined #haiku [04:48:19] *** gipfex has joined #haiku [04:49:26] *** M199 has left #haiku [04:50:27] *** Potn_ has joined #haiku [04:51:16] *** Potn has quit IRC [05:14:54] *** gipfex_ has joined #haiku [05:15:54] *** gipfex has quit IRC [05:25:06] *** Begasus has quit IRC [06:01:43] *** Potn_ has quit IRC [06:01:44] *** Karina`` has quit IRC [06:03:13] *** Potn_ has joined #haiku [06:13:11] *** MikeW has quit IRC [06:48:41] *** bogomipz has quit IRC [07:18:58] *** mmadia has quit IRC [07:19:39] *** mmadia has joined #haiku [07:20:17] *** MikeW has joined #haiku [07:20:56] *** Bryan_W has quit IRC [08:03:04] *** MikeW has quit IRC [08:03:34] *** Karina`` has joined #haiku [09:00:15] *** Karina``` has joined #haiku [09:00:16] *** Karina`` has quit IRC [09:02:48] *** kr1stof has joined #haiku [09:42:30] *** kr1stof has quit IRC [09:56:03] *** RageMax has quit IRC [10:25:25] *** zortness has quit IRC [10:51:50] *** voidref has joined #haiku [10:51:50] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o voidref [11:01:19] *** Begasus has joined #haiku [11:31:54] *** kr1stof has joined #haiku [11:40:00] <BeMonni> . [11:44:01] <Begasus> .. [11:44:10] <Begasus> happy newyear kr1stof ;) [11:49:59] <kr1stof> Thanks Begasus Same to you and your family. :-D [11:50:03] <BeMonni> morning Begasus [11:50:26] <Begasus> thnx kr1stof same there ;) [11:50:33] <Begasus> morning BeMonni [11:50:38] <Begasus> and got any sleep? [11:54:15] *** CIA-6 has quit IRC [12:12:03] *** Dr_Evil has joined #haiku [12:12:03] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Dr_Evil [12:18:22] *** TLF has joined #haiku [12:20:39] <BeMonni> Begasus: I slept pretty well actually... Making last checks before doing cvs diff [12:21:36] <Begasus> food time .. bbl [12:21:49] <BeMonni> breakfast time here ;) [12:22:16] <Begasus> same here (late one) [12:22:20] * Begasus is idle: BRB [12:23:42] *** ShackaN has joined #haiku [12:26:55] *** gipfex_ has left #haiku [12:30:01] *** slaad has joined #haiku [13:12:14] *** illissius- has joined #haiku [13:20:28] *** illissius has quit IRC [13:32:19] *** TLF has quit IRC [13:38:08] <Begasus> happy NY to all you guys [13:38:13] <Begasus> cya'll later [13:39:00] *** Begasus has quit IRC [13:44:22] *** Greyhawk_Dragon has joined #haiku [13:45:00] *** Greyhawk_Dragon has quit IRC [13:51:53] *** Fanskapet has joined #haiku [13:52:22] *** TLF has joined #haiku [13:57:40] *** Teknomancer has joined #haiku [14:10:19] *** gorapa has joined #haiku [14:11:58] <Teknomancer> hi gorapa [14:12:09] <gorapa> Well hello, I found my way here [14:12:52] <Teknomancer> hehe :-) [14:12:54] <Teknomancer> good [14:13:04] <gorapa> I wonder how many people there is actually using beos right now. [14:13:34] <Teknomancer> not many [14:14:16] <gorapa> Tecnomancer... isn't that a name I've heard somewhere? [14:15:13] <Teknomancer> lol [14:15:19] <Teknomancer> i told u to come here from Beshare [14:16:14] <gorapa> Well, I'm not that retarded ;) ...from somewhere else I ment to say [14:17:12] <Teknomancer> oh [14:17:13] <Teknomancer> hehe [14:19:40] <gorapa> So what to do with Zeta then, at that price there should be something exciting to do? [14:20:40] <Teknomancer> Uninstall it ? [14:21:53] <Teknomancer> well actually [14:21:55] <gorapa> Hehe... well, that would be a waste. My little quest is to use it as my main OS. [14:23:04] <Teknomancer> i havent seen zeta [14:23:13] <Teknomancer> so i dont know anything 'exciting' in it [14:23:18] <Teknomancer> maybe the USB support ? if u have iPod ? [14:23:20] <Teknomancer> is that exciting ? [14:24:11] <gorapa> Well, I guess it's a needed update... but it's still full of bugs and glitches. [14:24:27] <gorapa> I do have a iPod, but a older, firewire connected one. [14:25:21] <gorapa> My USB camera works well with some usb-mass storage driver found on BeBits [14:25:23] <Fanskapet> happy newyear... *a bit late though* :) [14:25:41] <Fanskapet> but better late than never :) [14:26:04] <Teknomancer> happy new year Fanskapet [14:26:14] <gorapa> Tackar... thanks alot [14:26:19] <gorapa> the same to you [14:26:45] <gorapa> So there are other sweeds using beos? [14:26:51] <Teknomancer> gorapa did u not read about zeta before u bought it ? [14:27:22] <gorapa> Quite alot, I drooled over all articles I could find. [14:27:52] <Teknomancer> don't see those screenshots ;-P [14:27:54] <Teknomancer> don't see those screenshots ;-P [14:28:29] <Fanskapet> geist, there is many sweeds using BeOS.. [14:29:35] <gorapa> I hope that I by buying the OS I helped the OS staying alive a moment longer. But I'm not very found of YellowTab and their way of doing things. [14:29:54] <Teknomancer> like what way ? [14:30:14] <gorapa> like what way what? [14:30:54] <gorapa> Is there not any swedish forums or sites? [14:31:01] <ShackaN> what's "their way of doing things" ? [14:31:10] <Fanskapet> there is www.bug-nordic.org [14:31:15] <Teknomancer> what are u NOT fond of with yellowtab gorapa [14:31:26] <Fanskapet> yeah im not very fond of yellowtab either [14:31:46] <Fanskapet> many promises they can't keep [14:31:49] <ShackaN> yeah, but giving a reason would be better :) [14:31:53] <gorapa> Oh. Well, as many other said before me, they turn it in to something not intended for beos to begin with. [14:32:19] *** nielx has joined #haiku [14:32:22] <Fanskapet> ShackaN, heard the new numbers of missing sweeds ? [14:32:22] <Teknomancer> gorapa be more specific :) cause u can save me 100$ :) [14:32:24] <gorapa> I'm not sure i need SVG icons... thumbnails... z-menu and so on. I like it minimalistic but working [14:32:34] <nielx> happy new year [14:32:55] <ShackaN> Fanskapet, I read about 2500 still no one heard about [14:33:05] <Fanskapet> ShackaN, 3500 last time i checked the news [14:33:09] <ShackaN> ... [14:33:34] <ShackaN> No one you know, I hope [14:33:46] <gorapa> BUT(!) they have done a good work with drivers, and making it a little bit more 21-century (but I guess that includes thumbnails and alike) [14:33:47] <Fanskapet> gorapa well I think that i will be forced to use Zeta on my new laptop.. will need some new drivers that doesn't exist for R5 i guess [14:34:31] <Fanskapet> ahh well you can get a nice SVGtracker for R5 now aswell :) [14:34:33] <gorapa> It's not all bad... far from it. I claim it to be more usfull than R5, alot in fact. [14:34:45] <Teknomancer> i'm using R5 [14:34:48] <Fanskapet> NewFS... from what i've heard it's working very well [14:35:00] <gorapa> But I realy hope that haiku pulls it off. [14:35:02] <ShackaN> NewFS ? [14:35:16] <Teknomancer> Tracker.NewFS ? [14:35:20] <ShackaN> they're not using bfs anymore? [14:35:22] <[Beta]> Tracker.NewFS he means I guess. [14:35:23] <Fanskapet> http://www.bebits.com/app/1567 [14:35:32] <Fanskapet> yeah of course :) [14:35:32] <ShackaN> ah ok ok [14:36:14] <gorapa> Well I suggest buing it, if not for the SVG icons... for the sake of Beos survival [14:36:39] <gorapa> Can haiku accept donations yet? [14:36:47] <ShackaN> I think so [14:36:50] <Fanskapet> ah well my hopes is on Haiku :) [14:36:53] <slaad> Yes. [14:37:00] <Teknomancer> hehe [14:37:23] <Fanskapet> still i personally think that Haiku won't actually do my needs in the future.. but still it will be a fun toy for me :) just as BeOS is right now :) [14:37:43] <Fanskapet> nice to get back in the old way :) [14:37:57] <Fanskapet> but i might be proved wrong in the future :) who knows :) [14:38:21] <gorapa> Haiku's code becomes quite usefull for YellowTab is I understand it correctly. [14:38:23] <Teknomancer> i hope Haiku makes it big like linux .. but my negative side prevails right now. [14:38:38] <Teknomancer> i feel haiku isn't gearing to become as big as linux leave alone windows. [14:38:40] <Fanskapet> yeah.. but that won't happen that im sure of [14:38:47] <ShackaN> Teknomancer, that's what I hope too [14:39:00] <Teknomancer> yeah ShackaN [14:39:35] <ShackaN> yeah, sooo many people trying to make a unix clone into a desktop pc already, sigh, unix was NOT meant to do that!!! [14:39:42] <ShackaN> but people don't seem to get it [14:39:50] *** slaad has quit IRC [14:40:02] <gorapa> I agree... that's what Beos is for. [14:40:17] <ShackaN> and that's why I like beos [14:40:24] <gorapa> And I hope that YellowTab can pull it of... in some degree. [14:40:30] <ShackaN> uhmm [14:40:46] <ShackaN> I really don't know how can they be still alive [14:41:18] <ShackaN> does anybody know how many people are working at yT atm ? [14:41:20] <Fanskapet> ah.. well the [14:41:30] <Teknomancer> i know one [14:41:33] <Teknomancer> mmu_man :) [14:41:39] <Fanskapet> *nixx envoirement can be made to work nice on a desktop.. that i belive [14:41:39] <BeMonni> last time I heard official count was 2 ;) [14:42:09] <gorapa> I wonder if Zeta can provide their paychecks. [14:42:25] <gorapa> It probably can. [14:42:38] <BeMonni> only 110 kB diffs in 4 days ;) I thought I get a lot more ;) [14:43:03] <gorapa> Where did you get that number from? [14:43:19] <BeMonni> cvs diff -N -u ;) [14:43:28] <ShackaN> Fanskapet, yeah, if the shell was not littered with absurd commands with idiotic names and a even more stupid names for options, and if conf files didn't have a different syntax each one, and if man pages could really teach you something instead of being just a quick reference for those who already know thing and ... and..., ok, you get it [14:44:39] <nielx> I believe Apple made a real effort to combine UNIX and a desktop operating system (before OS X) [14:44:41] <ShackaN> grep, troff, rm, cp, vi, sed, ed, ls, aaaaaaaaaaaaargh [14:44:55] <nielx> I saw screenshots where you could graphically add cmmand line options [14:45:21] <ShackaN> unfortunately I've never seen a Apple pc [14:45:36] <nielx> well, it was an internal project only [14:45:44] <gorapa> I think *nix works as a desktop os. But I always disagree with RPM and depencies.... hate that part. Anyone tried a nother sollution to that (besides gentto) [14:45:57] <ShackaN> nielx, you were internal at Apple ? :) [14:45:59] *** CIA-6 has joined #haiku [14:46:13] <nielx> ShackaN: nope, though I'd like to be [14:46:39] <ShackaN> gorapa, it does work as a desktop os, but it does *not* work as a *mainstream* desktop os [14:47:33] <Teknomancer> Debian does away with dependencies using Synaptic Package manager [14:48:02] <ShackaN> debian is what I'm using in fact :) [14:48:34] <Teknomancer> but i managed to corrupt debians package manager some how .. LOL [14:48:39] <Teknomancer> so much for linux's rock solidness [14:48:50] <gorapa> I think it would if you made a I-don't-know-shit-about-shit-distrobution that actually worked well with beginners and experienced users aswell [14:49:17] <Teknomancer> hehe [14:49:19] <gorapa> (sorry for the delay) [14:52:46] <gorapa> Anyone know when haiku-os.org will be back up? [14:52:57] <gorapa> ...and why they're down? [14:52:58] <CIA-6> beveloper * current/src/add-ons/screen_savers/haiku/ (Jamfile ScreenSaver.cpp): Added OpenBeOS text screensaver, renamed to Haiku [14:53:16] <CIA-6> beveloper * current/src/add-ons/screen_savers/Jamfile: Added OpenBeOS text screensaver, renamed to Haiku [14:54:56] <CIA-6> beveloper * current/src/add-ons/screen_savers/haiku/ScreenSaver.cpp: Updated from OpenBeOS to Haiku [14:55:58] <@Dr_Evil> gorapa Hardware problem [14:56:23] <@Dr_Evil> we are using the downtime to switch to a managed hosting [14:57:05] <gorapa> When do you expect it up again? [14:57:48] <[Beta]> BeMonni: what are you doing with the res. atm ? [14:58:14] <BeMonni> [Beta]; res? [14:58:15] <[Beta]> kinda got the hint you were cleaning(?) [15:00:04] <[Beta]> ah. [15:00:59] <BeMonni> [Beta]; Most are caused by broken headers or lazy devs not knowing that Haiku does miss some things but adds a lot of new declarations too [15:01:02] <@Dr_Evil> gorapa within January :) [15:01:23] <[Beta]> k [15:01:52] <BeMonni> [Beta]: going to upload it to my homepage, because I don't have commit rights to the tree and it's way too big for the mailing list [15:02:12] <[Beta]> would be nice for people to clean the imported code (agg/matroska).. its hardly to our style +includes lots of ifdef WIN32 :/ [15:03:03] <BeMonni> [Beta]: Me and shatty are going to edit atleast matroska but dunno how much and when [15:03:45] *** TLF has quit IRC [15:04:11] <CIA-6> beveloper * current/src/add-ons/screen_savers/haiku/Jamfile: made filename start with upper case [15:04:39] <BeMonni> wc -l /data2/haiku/haiku-Jan-01-2004.diff [15:04:40] <BeMonni> 3651 /data2/haiku/haiku-Jan-01-2004.diff [15:04:44] <[Beta]> if you'd like me to hack it, i've got a day or two free. at least to remove bloat. [15:05:08] <BeMonni> going to upload the diff now and then I'm going to find something to eat ;) [15:05:42] <gorapa> Do anyone know where to get libfreetype.so for beos? Is it the same as for Linux? [15:06:13] <Teknomancer> LibPak [15:06:13] <Teknomancer> ;-P [15:07:22] <gorapa> oh. thanks [15:07:29] <[Beta]> http://libpak.neoni.net/files/LibPak_v1_libfreetype_user.zip [15:07:48] <[Beta]> hmm. I thought there were newer versions.. [15:08:02] <[Beta]> than 04/06/04 [15:08:51] <BeMonni> http://www.raasu.org/tools/haiku/haiku-Jan-01-2004.diff <--- still needs a little cleaning up, but does tell pretty well where is issues [15:15:59] *** FastJack has joined #haiku [15:19:00] <BeMonni> hehe... still living last year ;) [15:24:46] *** DaaT has joined #haiku [15:25:05] <Teknomancer> hey DaaT [15:25:25] <DaaT> hey Teknomancer [15:25:28] <DaaT> happy new year everyone [15:25:32] <DaaT> hope it's better than 04 [15:25:59] <Teknomancer> yeah.. hope so [15:26:02] <Teknomancer> too [15:28:09] <DaaT> yep, sucked for the most part [15:28:11] *** Methe has joined #haiku [15:28:29] <Teknomancer> are u the one that runs IsComputerON ? [15:28:42] <DaaT> yeah [15:28:48] <Teknomancer> ah, nice site :-) [15:28:54] <DaaT> thanks :) [15:28:59] <DaaT> though i can't reach it atm [15:29:05] <Teknomancer> oh [15:29:17] <DaaT> dunno why, been having some probs staying up... waiting for a reply from the hosting company [15:29:28] <Teknomancer> ah.. [15:29:47] <DaaT> ah, now i can :) [15:30:26] * Methe throws some Microsoft Lawyers at DaaT. happy new year ! :] [15:30:44] <DaaT> eeek [15:30:51] * DaaT lights them on fire... weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [15:31:12] <Teknomancer> grr writing docs is boring :( [15:31:32] <DaaT> tell me about it [15:31:57] *** ConneX- has joined #haiku [15:32:06] <Teknomancer> especially when the apps done .. the docs delay it . what a drab. [15:32:27] <Teknomancer> g'nite all ... [15:33:21] *** Teknomancer has quit IRC [15:34:30] <DaaT> hey ConneX- [15:34:32] <DaaT> happy new year [15:35:16] *** Methe has quit IRC [15:35:18] <ConneX-> hey and happy new year to you as well :) [15:38:41] <BeMonni> http://www.raasu.org/tools/haiku/haiku-Jan-01-2005.diff <--- still needs a little cleaning up, but does tell pretty well where is issues, now with right year :) [15:39:51] *** Fanskapet has quit IRC [15:39:52] *** Fanskap has joined #haiku [15:56:00] *** Monni has joined #haiku [15:56:41] *** thies has quit IRC [15:59:16] *** thies has joined #haiku [16:01:31] *** thies has quit IRC [16:04:35] *** thies has joined #haiku [16:05:41] *** mene has joined #haiku [16:18:38] *** Monni has quit IRC [16:28:31] *** eazel7 has joined #haiku [16:30:53] <eazel7> hi haiku people, happy new year for occidentals [16:31:09] <eazel7> how things are going on? [16:31:56] <DaaT> hi [16:34:04] <eazel7> since haiku-os.org is down, I'm lost [16:34:21] <eazel7> where can I find the latest kernel, I want to try to boot it? [16:34:33] <eazel7> *if I want... [16:35:01] <mmadia> Jan 01 15:35:01 <mmadia> [16:35:01] <mmadia> cvs -d:pserver:anonymous at cvs dot sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/open-beos login [16:35:02] <mmadia> cvs -d:pserver:anonymous at cvs dot sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/open-beos co current [16:35:02] <mmadia> ./configure --include-gpl-addons --floppy /dev/disk/floppy/raw ; jam [16:35:34] <mmadia> hit enter when promted for the password. [16:35:38] <eazel7> I will have to crosscompile [16:35:44] <eazel7> I'm on linux, is it ok? [16:35:46] <mmadia> oh, no idea then :) [16:36:49] <eazel7> don't mind, I'm gonna see what to do [16:59:53] *** ConneX- has quit IRC [17:01:22] *** D14n4 has joined #haiku [17:08:05] *** gorapa has quit IRC [17:10:08] <DaaT> bbl [17:10:11] *** DaaT has quit IRC [17:10:42] *** m_eiman has joined #haiku [17:14:42] *** ShackaN has quit IRC [17:14:57] *** mene has quit IRC [17:15:29] *** gipfex has joined #haiku [17:16:04] *** gipfex has left #haiku [17:17:42] *** ShackaN has joined #haiku [17:20:16] *** nielx has quit IRC [17:20:31] *** mmadia has quit IRC [17:21:43] *** mmadia has joined #haiku [17:22:55] *** inseculous has joined #haiku [17:23:09] <inseculous> hello [17:23:30] <eazel7> hi inseculous, happy new year [17:23:50] <inseculous> thanks, right back at ya [17:24:06] <eazel7> thx [17:24:43] <inseculous> anyone here familar with the emuxki driver source? [17:31:33] *** zortness has joined #haiku [17:31:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o zortness [17:34:02] *** MikeW has joined #haiku [17:34:03] *** Methe has joined #haiku [17:36:54] *** eazel7 has quit IRC [17:51:57] *** TLF has joined #haiku [17:54:56] <inseculous> who should I contact about emuxki driver changes? [17:57:29] *** illissius- has quit IRC [17:57:44] *** illissius has joined #haiku [18:04:07] *** zortness has quit IRC [18:06:08] *** RageMax has joined #haiku [18:13:39] <@Dr_Evil> inseculous korli [18:20:15] *** Koki has joined #haiku [18:27:21] *** Methe has quit IRC [18:39:39] *** Koki has quit IRC [18:48:33] *** D14n4 has quit IRC [19:00:26] *** Dr3w has joined #haiku [19:00:27] *** MikeW has quit IRC [19:00:53] <Dr3w> Happy new year all. [19:01:07] *** fyysik has joined #haiku [19:01:23] <fyysik> hapy new year, people! [19:04:47] *** fyysik has quit IRC [19:09:29] *** m_eiman has quit IRC [19:38:38] *** mmadia has quit IRC [19:39:08] *** Aimy2 has joined #haiku [19:39:40] <Aimy2> hi, i am a beos noobie, is there a tutorial online that explains the process of installing haiku os? [19:46:22] <w-ber> if I had an euro every time someone asks about installing Haiku, I'd never need to work again ;) [19:46:55] <Aimy2> lol [19:47:07] <Aimy2> is haiku just 'addons' for beos? [19:47:19] <Aimy2> imy2> i have been wanting to try beos for a long time now :| [19:47:37] <w-ber> well, at its current state it's almost like a bunch of addons [19:47:50] *** fyysik has joined #haiku [19:48:02] <Aimy2> so i have to install beos 5? [19:48:30] <w-ber> well, that might be the easiest way to test the different components [19:48:51] <w-ber> I'm not too sure, but I remember someone making an install disk from the source tree [19:48:57] <Aimy2> w-ber what is the other way? [19:49:10] <Aimy2> eg how have you got openbsd to work :p [19:49:13] <w-ber> sorry, I'm not much of help as I'm not in the project in any way :/ [19:49:22] <Aimy2> its cool [19:49:59] <Aimy2> how did you get openbsd installed? [19:50:38] <w-ber> uh, booted the installation CD and installed :) [19:50:45] <w-ber> OpenBSD != BeOS [19:51:08] <Aimy2> where can i get the boot cd? [19:51:20] <w-ber> http://www.openbsd.org [19:52:10] <Aimy2> now im confused [19:52:20] <w-ber> OpenBSD is not BeOS :) [19:52:21] <Aimy2> imy2> i thought beos was different from bsd [19:52:31] <Aimy2> w-ber i have just confused myself :| [19:52:38] <w-ber> BeOS has nothing to do with different Unixes [19:52:42] *** fyysik has quit IRC [19:52:45] <Aimy2> good [19:52:50] <Aimy2> so, how did you get beos to work [19:52:56] <Aimy2> imy2> im used to typing bsd :/ [19:53:11] <w-ber> I installed the personal edition [19:53:20] <w-ber> http://www.bebits.com/app/2680 [19:53:30] <w-ber> I also have Zeta, but that's another story [19:53:39] *** Dr3w has quit IRC [19:53:50] <Aimy2> you bought yellowtab? [19:54:33] <w-ber> I translated most of Zeta and a couple of applications to Finnish and got a free copy [19:54:42] <Aimy2> ic [19:54:46] <inseculous> Aimy2: what's your skill level with compiling and stuff? [19:54:49] <w-ber> which reminds me, I ought to update the translations [19:55:12] <Aimy2> inseculous im a linux geek [19:55:13] <Aimy2> lol [19:55:32] <Aimy2> imy2> i compiled my own linux distro a year ago [19:56:43] <inseculous> ok, I'd suggest installing xbeox, then cvsing opentracker and building it. From there you can install the haiku kits as you see fit [19:57:05] <inseculous> make sure to get gcc 2.95.3 from bebits also [20:18:23] *** [Beta] has quit IRC [22:50:18] *** [Beta] has joined #haiku [22:52:25] *** gorapa has joined #haiku [22:52:29] *** illissius[food] is now known as illissius [22:53:34] <gorapa> I would like to ask a Zeta user a little question: Do you have any problem playing files in media player (the new "flashy" one)? [22:54:08] <slaad> I don't really use it, gorapa [22:55:18] <gorapa> Guess there are other applications to use, but I see no reason why it shouldn't work :( [22:55:55] <slaad> It doesn't have codecs to play the files you want to play. [22:56:42] <gorapa> But it should be able to play MP3 out of the box right? [22:57:56] <[Beta]> should, yeah. [23:00:08] <gorapa> Oh... looks like the update took care of it. Thanks anyway. [23:00:40] <gorapa> ..other than that my first days of zeta has been quite plesant :) [23:03:13] <slaad> The folks at yT do some pretty good work, gorapa. Just that their QA sucks patootie. [23:03:45] <DaaT> hi slaad [23:03:50] <slaad> Hey DaaT. [23:15:28] <@Dr_Evil> slaad that and their release naming policy [23:15:39] <ShackaN> ghghgh [23:15:55] * ShackaN heard rumors about an upcoming Zeta Reloaded [23:15:58] <ShackaN> :D [23:20:19] *** fyysik has quit IRC [23:25:44] *** zortness has joined #haiku [23:25:44] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o zortness [23:26:45] *** fyysik has joined #haiku [23:34:35] <@Dr_Evil> ShackaN I think it's called Zeta NWO [23:34:44] *** gorapa has quit IRC [23:50:01] *** Zenton has joined #haiku [23:50:12] *** MikeW has joined #haiku [23:53:34] *** nielx has quit IRC