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[00:06:56] * ShackaN wishes a happy new year to all the devs around here
[00:07:53] <@Dr_Evil> happy new year!
[00:08:01] <@Dr_Evil> it's finally 2005
[00:10:30] <Greyhawk_Dragon> Yes!
[00:10:36] <Greyhawk_Dragon> Happy new year!
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[01:04:20] <[Beta]> Happy New Year GMT :)
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[01:11:32] <Methe_> Happy new year Hiaku peeps ?
[01:11:34] <Methe_> !!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:12:30] <[Beta]> :)
[01:13:22] <BeMonni> one more build and then I do cvs diff
[01:14:16] <Methe_> :DDDDDDD
[01:14:37] <BeMonni> posix headers seem to be totally broken so someone else can fix them ;)
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[01:15:22] <Methe_> bon v aller promener le toutu
[01:15:28] <Methe_> gonna walk the dog :D
[01:15:30] <Methe_> on the beach
[01:15:32] <Methe_> ^^
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[01:47:46] <MikeW> happy new year all
[01:48:54] <ShackaN> BeMonni, are you a developer ? never seen ya before
[01:49:41] <[Beta]> developers hide in the woodwork, you should know that ShackaN
[01:50:02] <[Beta]> not enjoying New Years'?
[01:50:25] <ShackaN> ehm, sure
[01:51:00] <ShackaN> I am enjoying tonight the same way I enjoy every night
[01:51:01] <ShackaN> ...
[01:51:21] <ShackaN> why should be today any different?
[01:51:30] <Methe_> true dat
[01:51:45] <Methe_> No difference AT ALL
[01:51:52] <[Beta]> true, just wondering.
[01:52:15] <ShackaN> :)
[01:52:46] <[Beta]> it's my first new year here.. other channels i've been in for years.
[01:53:59] <reffie> so you irc during new year?
[01:54:07] <ShackaN> that's indeed my first new year on irc
[01:54:36] <ShackaN> reffie, aren't you ?
[01:54:47] <reffie> it's in more than 4 hours!
[01:54:51] <reffie> here
[01:55:00] <ShackaN> uh, where here ?
[01:55:01] <[Beta]> just nearly 1am here.
[01:55:12] <reffie> east coast, usa
[01:55:43] <ShackaN> here it is.. gasp! 2 am!!!
[01:55:44] <[Beta]> yeah, i've never been a "drink 'cause the years a'changing". and my friends do, so I get quiet time :)
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[02:10:50] <Begasus> happy newyear to all you peeps
[02:34:41] <Greyhawk_Dragon> :-)
[02:34:50] <Greyhawk_Dragon> Happy new year.
[02:39:28] <BeMonni> Begasus ;)
[02:39:42] <Begasus> BeMonni ;)
[02:39:50] <Begasus> happy newyear ;)
[02:40:00] <BeMonni> Begasus: cross your fingers... going to do cvs diff soon...
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[02:40:28] * Begasus crossing fingers
[02:40:44] <Begasus> hehe shatty dropped allready :P
[02:41:04] <BeMonni> Begasus: I guess he drops when he sees how many bytes the diff is...
[02:41:21] <Begasus> LOL
[02:42:14] <BeMonni> Begasus: I'm not going to fix all issues... Need to wait until someone fixes posix headers...
[02:42:44] <Begasus> well all small fixes are fixes BeMonni ;)
[02:43:03] <BeMonni> Begasus: Well... Let's see how small _this_ fix will be ;)
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[02:43:19] <Begasus> ;)
[02:43:56] <BeMonni> Begasus: I know if it is funny commited, a lot of people need to do full rebuild of the tree... so many files changed ;)
[02:44:43] <Begasus> hmm have to wait a few days to check out cvs then :)
[02:45:19] <BeMonni> Begasus: It's full of hacks and workarounds... If enough people notice them... Maybe they change the system headers so that the hacks are no longer required...
[02:46:15] <Begasus> hmm hacks in Haiku code?
[02:46:28] <BeMonni> Begasus: It seems so...
[02:46:32] <Begasus> didn't include your libmonni.so? :P
[02:46:47] <BeMonni> Begasus: And I know shatty likes to make hacks, dunno about others....
[02:47:11] <BeMonni> Begasus: Well... I guess I have to include libhentai.so instead.... too dirty code...
[02:47:26] <Begasus> hehe
[02:47:50] <Begasus> well it could get the atention of some people :P
[02:48:01] <BeMonni> I wonder how many hidden messages I didn't find yet...
[02:48:11] <Begasus> :P
[02:48:46] <BeMonni> like the mandatory hello world ;) all operating systems need to have it by default ;)
[02:51:27] <BeMonni> I guess it's time for me to go to sleep... I guess it has finished compiling when I wake up...
[02:54:05] <Begasus> if you hurry :P
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[03:24:59] <Begasus> still awake BeMonni? :P
[03:26:50] <[Beta]> nn peeps
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[11:40:00] <BeMonni> .
[11:44:01] <Begasus> ..
[11:44:10] <Begasus> happy newyear kr1stof ;)
[11:49:59] <kr1stof> Thanks Begasus Same to you and your family. :-D
[11:50:03] <BeMonni> morning Begasus
[11:50:26] <Begasus> thnx kr1stof same there ;)
[11:50:33] <Begasus> morning BeMonni
[11:50:38] <Begasus> and got any sleep?
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[12:20:39] <BeMonni> Begasus: I slept pretty well actually... Making last checks before doing cvs diff
[12:21:36] <Begasus> food time .. bbl
[12:21:49] <BeMonni> breakfast time here ;)
[12:22:16] <Begasus> same here (late one)
[12:22:20] * Begasus is idle: BRB
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[13:38:08] <Begasus> happy NY to all you guys
[13:38:13] <Begasus> cya'll later
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[14:11:58] <Teknomancer> hi gorapa
[14:12:09] <gorapa> Well hello, I found my way here
[14:12:52] <Teknomancer> hehe :-)
[14:12:54] <Teknomancer> good
[14:13:04] <gorapa> I wonder how many people there is actually using beos right now.
[14:13:34] <Teknomancer> not many
[14:14:16] <gorapa> Tecnomancer... isn't that a name I've heard somewhere?
[14:15:13] <Teknomancer> lol
[14:15:19] <Teknomancer> i told u to come here from Beshare
[14:16:14] <gorapa> Well, I'm not that retarded ;) ...from somewhere else I ment to say
[14:17:12] <Teknomancer> oh
[14:17:13] <Teknomancer> hehe
[14:19:40] <gorapa> So what to do with Zeta then, at that price there should be something exciting to do?
[14:20:40] <Teknomancer> Uninstall it ?
[14:21:53] <Teknomancer> well actually
[14:21:55] <gorapa> Hehe... well, that would be a waste. My little quest is to use it as my main OS.
[14:23:04] <Teknomancer> i havent seen zeta
[14:23:13] <Teknomancer> so i dont know anything 'exciting' in it
[14:23:18] <Teknomancer> maybe the USB support ? if u have iPod ?
[14:23:20] <Teknomancer> is that exciting ?
[14:24:11] <gorapa> Well, I guess it's a needed update... but it's still full of bugs and glitches.
[14:24:27] <gorapa> I do have a iPod, but a older, firewire connected one.
[14:25:21] <gorapa> My USB camera works well with some usb-mass storage driver found on BeBits
[14:25:23] <Fanskapet> happy newyear... *a bit late though* :)
[14:25:41] <Fanskapet> but better late than never :)
[14:26:04] <Teknomancer> happy new year Fanskapet
[14:26:14] <gorapa> Tackar... thanks alot
[14:26:19] <gorapa> the same to you
[14:26:45] <gorapa> So there are other sweeds using beos?
[14:26:51] <Teknomancer> gorapa did u not read about zeta before u bought it ?
[14:27:22] <gorapa> Quite alot, I drooled over all articles I could find.
[14:27:52] <Teknomancer> don't see those screenshots ;-P
[14:27:54] <Teknomancer> don't see those screenshots ;-P
[14:28:29] <Fanskapet> geist, there is many sweeds using BeOS..
[14:29:35] <gorapa> I hope that I by buying the OS I helped the OS staying alive a moment longer. But I'm not very found of YellowTab and their way of doing things.
[14:29:54] <Teknomancer> like what way ?
[14:30:14] <gorapa> like what way what?
[14:30:54] <gorapa> Is there not any swedish forums or sites?
[14:31:01] <ShackaN> what's "their way of doing things" ?
[14:31:10] <Fanskapet> there is www.bug-nordic.org
[14:31:15] <Teknomancer> what are u NOT fond of with yellowtab gorapa
[14:31:26] <Fanskapet> yeah im not very fond of yellowtab either
[14:31:46] <Fanskapet> many promises they can't keep
[14:31:49] <ShackaN> yeah, but giving a reason would be better :)
[14:31:53] <gorapa> Oh. Well, as many other said before me, they turn it in to something not intended for beos to begin with.
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[14:32:22] <Fanskapet> ShackaN, heard the new numbers of missing sweeds ?
[14:32:22] <Teknomancer> gorapa be more specific :) cause u can save me 100$ :)
[14:32:24] <gorapa> I'm not sure i need SVG icons... thumbnails... z-menu and so on. I like it minimalistic but working
[14:32:34] <nielx> happy new year
[14:32:55] <ShackaN> Fanskapet, I read about 2500 still no one heard about
[14:33:05] <Fanskapet> ShackaN, 3500 last time i checked the news
[14:33:09] <ShackaN> ...
[14:33:34] <ShackaN> No one you know, I hope
[14:33:46] <gorapa> BUT(!) they have done a good work with drivers, and making it a little bit more 21-century (but I guess that includes thumbnails and alike)
[14:33:47] <Fanskapet> gorapa well I think that i will be forced to use Zeta on my new laptop.. will need some new drivers that doesn't exist for R5 i guess
[14:34:31] <Fanskapet> ahh well you can get a nice SVGtracker for R5 now aswell :)
[14:34:33] <gorapa> It's not all bad... far from it. I claim it to be more usfull than R5, alot in fact.
[14:34:45] <Teknomancer> i'm using R5
[14:34:48] <Fanskapet> NewFS... from what i've heard it's working very well
[14:35:00] <gorapa> But I realy hope that haiku pulls it off.
[14:35:02] <ShackaN> NewFS ?
[14:35:16] <Teknomancer> Tracker.NewFS ?
[14:35:20] <ShackaN> they're not using bfs anymore?
[14:35:22] <[Beta]> Tracker.NewFS he means I guess.
[14:35:23] <Fanskapet> http://www.bebits.com/app/1567
[14:35:32] <Fanskapet> yeah of course :)
[14:35:32] <ShackaN> ah ok ok
[14:36:14] <gorapa> Well I suggest buing it, if not for the SVG icons... for the sake of Beos survival
[14:36:39] <gorapa> Can haiku accept donations yet?
[14:36:47] <ShackaN> I think so
[14:36:50] <Fanskapet> ah well my hopes is on Haiku :)
[14:36:53] <slaad> Yes.
[14:37:00] <Teknomancer> hehe
[14:37:23] <Fanskapet> still i personally think that Haiku won't actually do my needs in the future.. but still it will be a fun toy for me :) just as BeOS is right now :)
[14:37:43] <Fanskapet> nice to get back in the old way :)
[14:37:57] <Fanskapet> but i might be proved wrong in the future :) who knows :)
[14:38:21] <gorapa> Haiku's code becomes quite usefull for YellowTab is I understand it correctly.
[14:38:23] <Teknomancer> i hope Haiku makes it big like linux .. but my negative side prevails right now.
[14:38:38] <Teknomancer> i feel haiku isn't gearing to become as big as linux leave alone windows.
[14:38:40] <Fanskapet> yeah.. but that won't happen that im sure of
[14:38:47] <ShackaN> Teknomancer, that's what I hope too
[14:39:00] <Teknomancer> yeah ShackaN
[14:39:35] <ShackaN> yeah, sooo many people trying to make a unix clone into a desktop pc already, sigh, unix was NOT meant to do that!!!
[14:39:42] <ShackaN> but people don't seem to get it
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[14:40:02] <gorapa> I agree... that's what Beos is for.
[14:40:17] <ShackaN> and that's why I like beos
[14:40:24] <gorapa> And I hope that YellowTab can pull it of... in some degree.
[14:40:30] <ShackaN> uhmm
[14:40:46] <ShackaN> I really don't know how can they be still alive
[14:41:18] <ShackaN> does anybody know how many people are working at yT atm ?
[14:41:20] <Fanskapet> ah.. well the
[14:41:30] <Teknomancer> i know one
[14:41:33] <Teknomancer> mmu_man :)
[14:41:39] <Fanskapet> *nixx envoirement can be made to work nice on a desktop.. that i belive
[14:41:39] <BeMonni> last time I heard official count was 2 ;)
[14:42:09] <gorapa> I wonder if Zeta can provide their paychecks.
[14:42:25] <gorapa> It probably can.
[14:42:38] <BeMonni> only 110 kB diffs in 4 days ;) I thought I get a lot more ;)
[14:43:03] <gorapa> Where did you get that number from?
[14:43:19] <BeMonni> cvs diff -N -u ;)
[14:43:28] <ShackaN> Fanskapet, yeah, if the shell was not littered with absurd commands with idiotic names and a even more stupid names for options, and if conf files didn't have a different syntax each one, and if man pages could really teach you something instead of being just a quick reference for those who already know thing and ... and..., ok, you get it
[14:44:39] <nielx> I believe Apple made a real effort to combine UNIX and a desktop operating system (before OS X)
[14:44:41] <ShackaN> grep, troff, rm, cp, vi, sed, ed, ls, aaaaaaaaaaaaargh
[14:44:55] <nielx> I saw screenshots where you could graphically add cmmand line options
[14:45:21] <ShackaN> unfortunately I've never seen a Apple pc
[14:45:36] <nielx> well, it was an internal project only
[14:45:44] <gorapa> I think *nix works as a desktop os. But I always disagree with RPM and depencies.... hate that part. Anyone tried a nother sollution to that (besides gentto)
[14:45:57] <ShackaN> nielx, you were internal at Apple ? :)
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[14:46:13] <nielx> ShackaN: nope, though I'd like to be
[14:46:39] <ShackaN> gorapa, it does work as a desktop os, but it does *not* work as a *mainstream* desktop os
[14:47:33] <Teknomancer> Debian does away with dependencies using Synaptic Package manager
[14:48:02] <ShackaN> debian is what I'm using in fact :)
[14:48:34] <Teknomancer> but i managed to corrupt debians package manager some how .. LOL
[14:48:39] <Teknomancer> so much for linux's rock solidness
[14:48:50] <gorapa> I think it would if you made a I-don't-know-shit-about-shit-distrobution that actually worked well with beginners and experienced users aswell
[14:49:17] <Teknomancer> hehe
[14:49:19] <gorapa> (sorry for the delay)
[14:52:46] <gorapa> Anyone know when haiku-os.org will be back up?
[14:52:57] <gorapa> ...and why they're down?
[14:52:58] <CIA-6> beveloper * current/src/add-ons/screen_savers/haiku/ (Jamfile ScreenSaver.cpp): Added OpenBeOS text screensaver, renamed to Haiku
[14:53:16] <CIA-6> beveloper * current/src/add-ons/screen_savers/Jamfile: Added OpenBeOS text screensaver, renamed to Haiku
[14:54:56] <CIA-6> beveloper * current/src/add-ons/screen_savers/haiku/ScreenSaver.cpp: Updated from OpenBeOS to Haiku
[14:55:58] <@Dr_Evil> gorapa Hardware problem
[14:56:23] <@Dr_Evil> we are using the downtime to switch to a managed hosting
[14:57:05] <gorapa> When do you expect it up again?
[14:57:48] <[Beta]> BeMonni: what are you doing with the res. atm ?
[14:58:14] <BeMonni> [Beta]; res?
[14:58:15] <[Beta]> kinda got the  hint you were cleaning(?)
[15:00:04] <[Beta]> ah.
[15:00:59] <BeMonni> [Beta]; Most are caused by broken headers or lazy devs not knowing that Haiku does miss some things but adds a lot of new declarations too
[15:01:02] <@Dr_Evil> gorapa within January :)
[15:01:23] <[Beta]> k
[15:01:52] <BeMonni> [Beta]: going to upload it to my homepage, because I don't have commit rights to the tree and it's way too big for the mailing list
[15:02:12] <[Beta]> would be nice for people to clean the imported code (agg/matroska).. its hardly to our style +includes lots of ifdef WIN32 :/
[15:03:03] <BeMonni> [Beta]: Me and shatty are going to edit atleast matroska but dunno how much and when
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[15:04:11] <CIA-6> beveloper * current/src/add-ons/screen_savers/haiku/Jamfile: made filename start with upper case
[15:04:39] <BeMonni> wc -l /data2/haiku/haiku-Jan-01-2004.diff
[15:04:40] <BeMonni> 3651 /data2/haiku/haiku-Jan-01-2004.diff
[15:04:44] <[Beta]> if you'd like me to hack it, i've got a day or two free. at least to remove bloat.
[15:05:08] <BeMonni> going to upload the diff now and then I'm going to find something to eat ;)
[15:05:42] <gorapa> Do anyone know where to get libfreetype.so for beos? Is it the same as for Linux?
[15:06:13] <Teknomancer> LibPak
[15:06:13] <Teknomancer> ;-P
[15:07:22] <gorapa> oh. thanks
[15:07:29] <[Beta]> http://libpak.neoni.net/files/LibPak_v1_libfreetype_user.zip
[15:07:48] <[Beta]> hmm. I thought there were newer versions..
[15:08:02] <[Beta]> than 04/06/04
[15:08:51] <BeMonni> http://www.raasu.org/tools/haiku/haiku-Jan-01-2004.diff <--- still needs a little cleaning up, but does tell pretty well where is issues
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[15:19:00] <BeMonni> hehe... still living last year ;)
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[15:25:05] <Teknomancer> hey DaaT
[15:25:25] <DaaT> hey Teknomancer
[15:25:28] <DaaT> happy new year everyone
[15:25:32] <DaaT> hope it's better than 04
[15:25:59] <Teknomancer> yeah.. hope so
[15:26:02] <Teknomancer> too
[15:28:09] <DaaT> yep, sucked for the most part
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[15:28:29] <Teknomancer> are u the one that runs IsComputerON ?
[15:28:42] <DaaT> yeah
[15:28:48] <Teknomancer> ah, nice site :-)
[15:28:54] <DaaT> thanks :)
[15:28:59] <DaaT> though i can't reach it atm
[15:29:05] <Teknomancer> oh
[15:29:17] <DaaT> dunno why, been having some probs staying up... waiting for a reply from the hosting company
[15:29:28] <Teknomancer> ah..
[15:29:47] <DaaT> ah, now i can :)
[15:30:26] * Methe throws some Microsoft Lawyers at DaaT. happy new year ! :]
[15:30:44] <DaaT> eeek
[15:30:51] * DaaT lights them on fire... weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[15:31:12] <Teknomancer> grr writing docs is boring :(
[15:31:32] <DaaT> tell me about it
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[15:32:06] <Teknomancer> especially when the apps done .. the docs delay it . what a drab.
[15:32:27] <Teknomancer> g'nite all ...
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[15:34:30] <DaaT> hey ConneX-
[15:34:32] <DaaT> happy new year
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[15:35:18] <ConneX-> hey and happy new year to you as well :)
[15:38:41] <BeMonni> http://www.raasu.org/tools/haiku/haiku-Jan-01-2005.diff <--- still needs a little cleaning up, but does tell pretty well where is issues, now with right year :)
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[16:30:53] <eazel7> hi haiku people, happy new year for occidentals
[16:31:09] <eazel7> how things are going on?
[16:31:56] <DaaT> hi
[16:34:04] <eazel7> since haiku-os.org is down, I'm lost
[16:34:21] <eazel7> where can I find the latest kernel, I want to try to boot it?
[16:34:33] <eazel7> *if I want...
[16:35:01] <mmadia> Jan 01 15:35:01 <mmadia>
[16:35:01] <mmadia> cvs -d:pserver:anonymous at cvs dot sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/open-beos login
[16:35:02] <mmadia> cvs -d:pserver:anonymous at cvs dot sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/open-beos co current
[16:35:02] <mmadia> ./configure --include-gpl-addons  --floppy /dev/disk/floppy/raw   ; jam
[16:35:34] <mmadia> hit enter when promted for the password.
[16:35:38] <eazel7> I will have to crosscompile
[16:35:44] <eazel7> I'm on linux, is it ok?
[16:35:46] <mmadia> oh,  no idea then :)
[16:36:49] <eazel7> don't mind, I'm gonna see what to do
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[17:10:08] <DaaT> bbl
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[17:23:09] <inseculous> hello
[17:23:30] <eazel7> hi inseculous, happy new year
[17:23:50] <inseculous> thanks, right back at ya
[17:24:06] <eazel7> thx
[17:24:43] <inseculous> anyone here familar with the emuxki driver source?
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[17:54:56] <inseculous> who should I contact about emuxki driver changes?
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[18:13:39] <@Dr_Evil> inseculous korli
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[19:00:53] <Dr3w> Happy new year all.
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[19:01:23] <fyysik> hapy new year, people!
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[19:39:40] <Aimy2> hi, i am a beos noobie, is there a tutorial online that explains the process of installing haiku os?
[19:46:22] <w-ber> if I had an euro every time someone asks about installing Haiku, I'd never need to work again ;)
[19:46:55] <Aimy2> lol
[19:47:07] <Aimy2> is haiku just 'addons' for beos?
[19:47:19] <Aimy2> imy2>	i have been wanting to try beos for a long time now :|
[19:47:37] <w-ber> well, at its current state it's almost like a bunch of addons
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[19:48:02] <Aimy2> so i have to install beos 5?
[19:48:30] <w-ber> well, that might be the easiest way to test the different components
[19:48:51] <w-ber> I'm not too sure, but I remember someone making an install disk from the source tree
[19:48:57] <Aimy2> w-ber what is the other way?
[19:49:10] <Aimy2> eg how have you got openbsd to work :p
[19:49:13] <w-ber> sorry, I'm not much of help as I'm not in the project in any way :/
[19:49:22] <Aimy2> its cool
[19:49:59] <Aimy2> how did you get openbsd installed?
[19:50:38] <w-ber> uh, booted the installation CD and installed :)
[19:50:45] <w-ber> OpenBSD != BeOS
[19:51:08] <Aimy2> where can i get the boot cd?
[19:51:20] <w-ber> http://www.openbsd.org
[19:52:10] <Aimy2> now im confused
[19:52:20] <w-ber> OpenBSD is not BeOS :)
[19:52:21] <Aimy2> imy2>	i thought beos was different from bsd
[19:52:31] <Aimy2> w-ber i have just confused myself :|
[19:52:38] <w-ber> BeOS has nothing to do with different Unixes
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[19:52:45] <Aimy2> good
[19:52:50] <Aimy2> so, how did you get beos to work
[19:52:56] <Aimy2> imy2>	im used to typing bsd :/
[19:53:11] <w-ber> I installed the personal edition
[19:53:20] <w-ber> http://www.bebits.com/app/2680
[19:53:30] <w-ber> I also have Zeta, but that's another story
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[19:53:50] <Aimy2> you bought yellowtab?
[19:54:33] <w-ber> I translated most of Zeta and a couple of applications to Finnish and got a free copy
[19:54:42] <Aimy2> ic
[19:54:46] <inseculous> Aimy2: what's your skill level with compiling and stuff?
[19:54:49] <w-ber> which reminds me, I ought to update the translations
[19:55:12] <Aimy2> inseculous im a linux geek
[19:55:13] <Aimy2> lol
[19:55:32] <Aimy2> imy2>	i compiled my own linux distro a year ago
[19:56:43] <inseculous> ok, I'd suggest installing xbeox, then cvsing opentracker and building it.  From there you can install the haiku kits as you see fit
[19:57:05] <inseculous> make sure to get gcc 2.95.3 from bebits also
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[22:53:34] <gorapa> I would like to ask a Zeta user a little question: Do you have any problem playing files in media player (the new "flashy" one)?
[22:54:08] <slaad> I don't really use it, gorapa
[22:55:18] <gorapa> Guess there are other applications to use, but I see no reason why it shouldn't work :(
[22:55:55] <slaad> It doesn't have codecs to play the files you want to play.
[22:56:42] <gorapa> But it should be able to play MP3 out of the box right?
[22:57:56] <[Beta]> should, yeah.
[23:00:08] <gorapa> Oh... looks like the update took care of it. Thanks anyway.
[23:00:40] <gorapa> ..other than that my first days of zeta has been quite plesant :)
[23:03:13] <slaad> The folks at yT do some pretty good work, gorapa. Just that their QA sucks patootie.
[23:03:45] <DaaT> hi slaad
[23:03:50] <slaad> Hey DaaT.
[23:15:28] <@Dr_Evil> slaad that and their release naming policy
[23:15:39] <ShackaN> ghghgh
[23:15:55] * ShackaN heard rumors about an upcoming Zeta Reloaded
[23:15:58] <ShackaN> :D
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[23:34:35] <@Dr_Evil> ShackaN I think it's called Zeta NWO
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