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[12:29:39] <JBurton> bbl lunch
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[12:57:35] <@mmu_man> [revol@patrick ~/devel/drivers/put_vnode]$ echo "13:2" >/dev/misc/putvnode
[12:57:36] <@mmu_man> [revol@patrick ~/devel/drivers/put_vnode]$ unmount /google/
[12:57:38] <@mmu_man> [revol@patrick ~/devel/drivers/put_vnode]$
[12:57:40] <@mmu_man> haha \o/
[12:57:44] <@mmu_man> got ya
[12:58:50] <@mmu_man> called new_vnode where I shouldn't, it wouldn't unmount...
[13:00:45] <dipp> O_o
[13:00:51] <dipp> what are you doing?
[13:02:10] <@mmu_man> coding on googlefs
[13:02:31] <dipp> for beos? cool :D
[13:03:59] <@mmu_man> (which is *not* gmailfs)
[13:04:44] <dipp> heh okay
[13:04:53] <dipp> So what exactly does it do?
[13:06:01] <@mmu_man> publishes bookmarks from a query :)
[13:06:04] <@mmu_man> well not yet
[13:06:15] <@mmu_man> for now I can mount and mkdir in there
[13:10:05] <dipp> aha..ok
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[13:57:17] <CIA-2> axeld * current/src/kits/app/Application.cpp: (log message trimmed)
[13:57:17] <CIA-2> Moved the quit window code into window_quit_loop() which is now called by
[13:57:17] <CIA-2> quit_all_windows(). I've also implemented the file panel quit mechanism,
[13:57:17] <CIA-2> but I'm not sure it's correctly done yet.
[13:57:17] <CIA-2> The BApplication destructor now locks the looper. Added commented out
[13:57:18] <CIA-2> deletion of fServerTo port and a ToDo comment if this should be done.
[13:57:20] <CIA-2> Run() no longer checks fMsgPort somewhere, but fInitError at the beginning;
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[14:03:37] <JBurton> re
[14:04:33] <CIA-2> axeld * current/src/kits/app/Application.cpp:
[14:04:33] <CIA-2> Grouped all constructors together.
[14:04:33] <CIA-2> Moved InitData() to be close to the constructors.
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[14:07:15] <CIA-2> rudolfc * current/src/add-ons/accelerants/nvidia/engine/nv_acc.c: updated more acc commands to use pointers, one more to go until completion.
[14:10:56] <@mmu_man> [revol@patrick /google]$ catattr BEOS:TYPE .
[14:10:57] <@mmu_man> . : string : application/x-vnd.Be-directory
[14:11:02] <@mmu_man> ok, attrs work
[14:11:02] <CIA-2> rudolfc * current/headers/private/graphics/nvidia/ (nv_acc.h nv_macros.h): updated register and acc command defines
[14:11:09] <@mmu_man> hmm maybe I should shower and eat something
[14:11:11] <@mmu_man> it's 2pm
[14:14:37] <JBurton> bah, food is overrated
[14:16:03] <[Beta]> ditto for showering
[14:17:30] <@mmu_man> lol
[14:17:35] <@mmu_man> real life sux, but hey
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[14:20:56] <ahwayakchih> hih>	hi everyone
[14:21:12] <JBurton> hey ahwayakchih
[14:21:26] <ahwayakchih> hih>	hi JBurton
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[14:30:17] <CIA-2> axeld * current/src/kits/storage/LibBeAdapter.cpp: _kern_open_query() syscall had been changed.
[14:39:44] <@mmu_man> http://clapcrest.free.fr/revol/beos/shot_googlefs.png
[14:43:23] <Dr3w> mmu_man, the icon would be better if it was as standard hard disk, but with the google eyes overlayed on the bottom.
[14:43:47] <Dr3w> like where the BeOS eye/eye is on the system volume.
[14:43:49] <@mmu_man> Dr3w hmm maybe, though it's not a disk actually
[14:44:00] <@mmu_man> an>	a gmailfs would, sicne it fakes a disk
[14:44:07] <Dr3w> ah yeah OK.
[14:44:14] <@mmu_man> but that"s just to virtualise the searches
[14:44:17] * Dr3w scrolls back to see what it *is* :)
[14:44:55] <Dr3w> where does it publish them to?
[14:45:03] <Dr3w> Mmmm, what is it?
[14:45:05] <@mmu_man> to itself
[14:45:09] <@mmu_man> one folder/query
[14:45:25] <[Beta]> you query it, and it returns 'references' from t'internet
[14:45:37] <@mmu_man> Net+ bookmarks
[14:46:30] <Dr3w> Ah I see, like a search, but it uses google.
[14:47:37] <@mmu_man> yup
[14:51:12] <Dr3w> Hmmm.. you still need a better icon.  Perhaps perhaps...
[14:51:28] <Dr3w> Take a standard query icon and overlay the google eyes on the bootom.
[14:51:36] <Dr3w> it kinda keeps some conformaty.
[14:51:38] <Dr3w> (sp)
[14:51:55] <Dr3w> sets a standard too, anyone else who makes a search thing like that shoudl do the same.
[14:52:10] <Dr3w> I woudl make it for you if I wasn't at work.
[14:53:14] <CIA-2> axeld * current/Jamrules: __HAIKU__ is now always defined for the kernel build rules.
[14:54:14] <JBurton> re
[14:55:31] <ahwayakchih> re JBurton
[14:56:32] <CIA-2> axeld * current/src/kits/interface/Font.cpp:
[14:56:32] <CIA-2> Fixed warnings.
[14:56:32] <CIA-2> Applied our style guide.
[14:56:32] <CIA-2> Removed fHeight from comparisons, fSize should be enough. Clarified comparisons.
[14:58:38] <@mmu_man> hmm mkdir foo; mkdir foo
[14:58:49] <@mmu_man> that shouldn't work :)
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[15:02:05] <ahwayakchih> mmu_man i've made icon like Dr3w said :)
[15:02:23] <@mmu_man> well it's more logical than a disk :)
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[15:02:50] <ahwayakchih> yep :)
[15:03:44] <Dr3w> can I see it?
[15:04:27] <ahwayakchih> yep, wait a sec :)
[15:05:36] <JBurton> hey mahlzeit
[15:05:40] <@mahlzeit> yo
[15:06:01] <@mahlzeit> realbasic is pretty cool
[15:06:35] <@mahlzeit> (just so you know)
[15:07:05] <Dr3w> thanks for letting us know.
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[15:08:24] <ahwayakchih> Dr3w i'm DCC'ing it to You
[15:09:15] <Dr3w> yeah thats pretty cool!
[15:10:38] <ahwayakchih> :)
[15:11:56] <Dr3w> mmu_man, have yuo seen it?
[15:13:11] <@mmu_man> ?
[15:14:00] <ahwayakchih> mmu_man i tried 16x16, but those eyse are bgger than whole icon, i'll try to make just two colorfull circles
[15:15:01] * mmu_man pets convert -scale :p
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[15:18:02] <ahwayakchih> mmu_man ok, C files read on beshare :)
[15:20:35] <@mmu_man> icons are 8 bits usually :)
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[15:22:54] <ahwayakchih> Dr3w since it's Your idea, i'm DCC'ing also 16x16 version to You :)
[15:23:56] <@mmu_man> hmm, ALT-F should set teh volume to that of where it was called on query...
[15:24:19] <@mmu_man> so you don't Find on All Volumes for site:foo plop -bar
[15:24:42] <ahwayakchih> mmu_man yep
[15:27:19] <ahwayakchih> anyone here would like to test LibPak installation for me? http://libpak.neoni.net/packages
[15:27:35] <Dr3w> ahwayakchih, its mmu_man's program :)
[15:27:45] <Dr3w> I just suggested an icon for it.
[15:28:05] <ahwayakchih> Dr3w i know, but You gave the idea, so i thought You may want to see results :)
[15:28:56] <@mmu_man> ahwayakchih btw your ssl libs are broken :p
[15:29:04] <ahwayakchih> I need people to test new LibPak installations. Anyone? (You can test FULL, or just download.. let's say... sdl_image, and use autodownload option to install required dependencies :)
[15:29:12] <ahwayakchih> mmu_man ?
[15:29:20] <@mmu_man> putting libcrypto in libssl is really wrong
[15:29:28] <@mmu_man> bbl
[15:29:45] <ahwayakchih> mmu_man ? i make two libs, i don't put libcrypto into libssl
[15:30:17] <@mmu_man> hmm thought so
[15:30:29] <ahwayakchih> so what's wrong?
[15:30:31] <@mmu_man> msn addon in im kit was linked to libssl with syms from libcrypto
[15:30:40] <@mmu_man> well
[15:31:06] <ahwayakchih> (btw ther'e new version of openssl, so i'll have to port it before release of new libpak, so i may try to fix things if i'll know what's wrong :)
[15:31:27] <@mmu_man> neosp1 has the d one
[15:31:38] <@mmu_man> I'll have to check e
[15:31:50] <@mmu_man> i'll give you teh diff
[15:31:54] <@mmu_man> bbl
[15:32:29] <ahwayakchih> mmu_man d is old already (it's the one in new LibPak) :) "e" is latest
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[15:33:31] <ahwayakchih> ehh so no one to test installer/uninstaller? :(
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[15:48:40] <@mmu_man> yes I know
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[15:51:41] <ahwayakchih> mmu_man can You tell me what was wrong with LibPak's openssl? any errors?
[15:57:07] <@mmu_man> I'm not sure it was libpak's
[15:57:24] <@mmu_man> just the IM Kit msn addons was using syms from ilbcrypto but only linked to libssl
[15:57:32] <@mmu_man> actually libssl.so.0.6.7
[15:57:50] <@mmu_man> first this should have been .so :p
[15:58:54] <ahwayakchih> mmu_man hmm... i don't remember older version, but at least now libssl.so is linked with libcrypto.so
[16:00:17] <ahwayakchih> ok, checked that, and older version (the one from bebits) also is linked to crypto
[16:01:14] <ahwayakchih> mmu_man also i never use verion numbers in library names
[16:01:31] <ahwayakchih> verion=version
[16:01:50] <ahwayakchih> that's the way Be used, and i just continue it :)
[16:02:57] <@mmu_man> so do I
[16:03:09] <@mmu_man> well Be did some bad things too
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[16:03:13] <@mmu_man> like putting libGLU in libGL
[16:04:07] <ahwayakchih> yeah, or other libs into libroot
[16:04:17] <@mmu_man> odd, Find panel doesn't put googlefs in the searchable volumes
[16:04:25] <@mmu_man> but I did set teh HAS_QUERY flag
[16:04:45] <Teknomancer> mm.. whats googlefs ?
[16:05:15] <ahwayakchih> mmu_man maybe it also have to have some other flag?
[16:05:47] <ahwayakchih> Teknomancer a way to mount google search, and use BeOS queries on it :)
[16:05:58] <ahwayakchih> or at least BeOS Find
[16:06:35] <JBurton> re again
[16:07:00] <ahwayakchih> re again JBurton :)
[16:07:09] <Teknomancer> mount google search ??
[16:07:10] <ahwayakchih> JBurton have You tried also gcc?
[16:07:13] <Teknomancer> what has google to do with the harddisk ?
[16:07:22] <Teknomancer> i thot google was just netsearch
[16:07:26] <ahwayakchih> Teknomancer heh, it has data in it ;)
[16:07:47] <JBurton> ahwayakchih still have to turn on the pc at home :P
[16:07:47] <ahwayakchih> JBurton what exactly was wrong with language?
[16:07:50] <Teknomancer> ahwayakchih what do u mean do a google search on the hard disk??
[16:07:54] <ahwayakchih> JBurton lol
[16:07:59] <Teknomancer> ahwayakchih has google released their search algorithm or soemthing ?
[16:08:12] <JBurton> ahwayakchih "<menu title> Campagna" instead of "Campagna"
[16:08:13] <JBurton> etc
[16:08:22] <ahwayakchih> Teknomancer no, fs will be just an "frontend" to google websearch
[16:08:47] <ahwayakchih> JBurton on BeOS?? strange, main menu worked ok here with Italian
[16:08:52] <Teknomancer> ah so its a web search  ...
[16:09:15] <ahwayakchih> Teknomancer yep
[16:09:19] <JBurton> ahwayakchih could be different libraries versions ?
[16:09:25] <@mmu_man> hmm maybe it's cause it has no bytes
[16:09:31] <@mmu_man> /google          googlefs        0        0 QAM---W
[16:09:53] <ahwayakchih> JBurton yeah, or maybe You installed over old, and some files are wrong now (thought it should have overwrite)
[16:10:07] <JBurton> ahwayakchih yeah could be
[16:10:14] <JBurton> ahwayakchih I think I'll try a clean install
[16:10:22] <ahwayakchih> JBurton ok, THX :)
[16:11:34] <ahwayakchih> mmu_man does query work on bfs if it's empty? or do You mean it shows "0 available space"?
[16:12:02] <JBurton> ahwayakchih np :P
[16:13:29] <@mmu_man> maybe with B_FS_IS_PERSISTENT
[16:14:10] <@mmu_man> can't be empty there is atleast root node
[16:14:34] <ahwayakchih> hmm yes
[16:15:09] <@mmu_man> yeah that was it, persistant
[16:15:15] <@mmu_man> odd
[16:16:12] <ahwayakchih> strange
[16:16:24] <@mmu_man> hmm arf, _trk/qryvol1 is flattened bmessage
[16:17:19] <@mmu_man> I might be able to take avdantage of that
[16:18:08] <@mmu_man> arf no
[16:18:11] <@mmu_man> stupid
[16:18:25] <@mmu_man> I removed teh persistent flag and the template forgot it was for googlefs only :-(
[16:18:36] <Dr3w> arh, you idiot!
[16:19:45] <@mmu_man> I wanted to have a query template in /google/ with fixed fs, so it wouldn't make usual queries on that volume
[16:20:00] <Dr3w> any PowerPC users in here?
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[16:21:46] <Dr3w> is there a BeShare Java client for Windows?
[16:21:50] <ahwayakchih> not me Dr3w
[16:22:35] <Dr3w> ah, JavaShare
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[16:24:25] <CIA-2> rudolfc * current/src/add-ons/accelerants/nvidia/engine/nv_acc.c: on-the-fly FIFO channel reassignments should now be useable.
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[16:27:16] <JBurton> Dr3w javashare ?
[16:27:38] <JBurton> ahwayakchih did I tell you I'm playing PSX2 games all the time when I'm home ? :P
[16:28:00] <ahwayakchih> JBurton yep, You mentioned it :)
[16:28:29] <JBurton> that's bad for coding :P
[16:29:10] <dipp> JBurton: perhaps you should send it to me then instead so you can code more >.<
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[16:29:23] <CIA-2> rudolfc * current/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/nvidia/driver.c: modified a struct's type name, now the driverinterface works in MESA if needed.
[16:30:25] <ahwayakchih> JBurton :( and Your wife let's You play so much time? but she was against coding?? she's EVIL ;)
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[16:31:29] <JBurton> ahwayakchih well she is not happy I play all the time (mostly because we have just one TV :P)
[16:31:40] <JBurton> dipp eheheh
[16:31:40] <ahwayakchih> JBurton heh
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[16:32:58] <dipp> :)
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[16:35:13] <CIA-2> rudolfc * current/headers/private/graphics/nvidia/ (DriverInterface.h nv_acc.h nv_macros.h): completed engine command struct defines so on-the-fly FIFO channel re-assignments can be done. Will be expanded more to include used 3D commands.
[16:39:27] <dipp> damn... rudolfc have been busy today
[16:39:47] <JBurton> yeah
[16:40:39] <ahwayakchih> bbl - dinner
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[16:56:36] <ahwayakchih> re
[16:56:44] <JBurton> fast dinner :P
[16:57:07] <ahwayakchih> fast? i had time to quickly "scan" newspaper :))
[16:57:17] <ahwayakchih> so it was kinda slow by me ;]
[16:57:23] <ahwayakchih> by me=as for me
[16:57:24] <ahwayakchih> :)
[16:57:32] <ahwayakchih> heh
[16:58:00] <ahwayakchih> well.. we don't have "big dinners", just one plate with meal and a cup of tea
[16:58:07] <ahwayakchih> (one plate for each)
[16:58:43] <ahwayakchih> so it's faster than with many meals on many plates, and everyone taking what he/she wants onto his/her plate
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[17:00:56] <JBurton> ahah
[17:00:58] <JBurton> :P
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[17:07:12] <Dr3w> I just won a super cool CD-ROM drive to use on my Mac.
[17:07:13] <Dr3w> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5147342412
[17:07:15] <Dr3w> that rules.
[17:09:41] <ahwayakchih> Dr3w congrats :)
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[17:14:20] <Dr3w> my Macintosh Plus is my favorite computer ever.
[17:15:42] <@mmu_man> ok, lunch time =)
[17:19:52] <TuneTracker> ahwayakchih hey there!
[17:20:04] <ahwayakchih> hih>	hi TuneTracker! :))
[17:20:12] <TuneTracker> ahwayakchih Nice seeing you in here.
[17:20:33] <ahwayakchih> heh, nice to see You too :)
[17:21:10] <TuneTracker> ahwayakchih We're getting so many cool things developed for TuneTracker now that we'll need to have a newsletter to send out to all the programmers soon, just so they all know what each other are doing.  :-)
[17:21:32] <ahwayakchih> TuneTracker nice :)
[17:21:42] <TuneTracker> Actually I should do that.
[17:21:47] * TuneTracker makes a note of it...
[17:24:52] <ahwayakchih> TuneTracker i find a way to use alf for myself too later - maybe i'll create my own webpage, and write proper scripts, so alf can give notice to server each time i'm woriking on some application and source files are changed :) kinda like CVS (in fact alf could upload files to cvs also :)
[17:25:36] <@mmu_man> alf ?
[17:25:50] <@mmu_man> that ET character from the eponym serie ?
[17:26:15] <ahwayakchih> mmu_man hehe, that too :) but it's a workname only
[17:26:20] <ahwayakchih> AFAIK :)
[17:27:18] <JBurton> ahwayakchih have to go now
[17:27:23] <JBurton> see ya tomorrow :)
[17:27:35] <JBurton> bye all
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[17:37:48] <Dr3w> Anyone around?  I need to speak shop with someone :)
[17:38:53] * mahlzeit hides
[17:40:02] <Dr3w> one BeOS what part of the system is it that lets the input_server talk to devices over serial or usb?
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[17:40:29] <Dr3w> so, if someone wanted to write an ADB stack, what bit would someone write?
[17:40:52] <@mmu_man> to support keyb on ppc ?
[17:41:11] <@mmu_man> an>	a kb and mouse driver to put in arch/ppc
[17:41:36] <@mmu_man> having a look at PearPC's adb code might help you figure out what the controller does
[17:41:57] <Dr3w> what about the ADB bus itself?
[17:42:01] <@mmu_man> maybe you'll need an addon, not sure
[17:42:46] <@mmu_man> well it's not much of a bus in the sense of usb
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[17:50:07] <gipfex_> hi!
[17:50:21] <Dr3w> hi
[17:50:30] <ahwayakchih> hih>	hi
[17:50:35] <dipp> hi!
[17:51:20] <brennanOS> nice, my Linux server at work wont start up if there isnt a ps/2 mouse plugged in... the 'new hardware' check locks up the machine
[17:51:24] <brennanOS> what a joke
[17:51:24] <gipfex_> ipfex_>	i want install in my HD a BeOS system, what is the best option?
[17:51:34] <ahwayakchih> brennanOS lol
[17:51:53] <Dr3w> brennanOS, just remove the hardware scan from your init process.
[17:52:10] <Dr3w> if its a server, why is it restarting anyway?
[17:52:46] <ahwayakchih> gipfex_ that depends on Your hardware
[17:52:53] <Dr3w> mccall@uranus:/ > uptime
[17:52:53] <Dr3w> 4:52pm  up 106 days,  7:12,  2 users,  load average: 1.99, 1.97, 1.91
[17:53:53] <ahwayakchih> gipfex_ best is pure BeOS r5 and patch and install drivers and apps You need, but if You have AthlonXP or later, or P4 You need kernel fixes which are kinda hard to apply, so You may want to try some pre-configured "distro" like BeOS MAX
[17:53:59] <gipfex_> ahwayakchih: i have a pentium M with an intel video card
[17:55:52] <gipfex_> ipfex_>	i only know a Zeta distribution and Beos r5...
[17:56:54] <ahwayakchih> gipfex_ well... i don't like Zeta for various reasons, but You may try it if You have free access to it (so You can try it before You pay anything)
[17:57:47] <gipfex_> yeah ok
[17:58:10] <gipfex_> and Beos r5?
[17:58:24] <ahwayakchih> ih>	i use BeOS r5
[17:58:46] <ahwayakchih> but i'm not sure what is pentium M actually, and if r5 will work on it without problems
[17:59:14] <ahwayakchih> gipfex_ try to look for it here: http://www.bedrivers.com/hardware/
[17:59:22] <gipfex_> ok
[17:59:31] <gipfex_> thanks
[18:00:44] <ahwayakchih> gipfex_ if You have good inet connection download BeOS MAX and try it, if it will not work, at least You'll not waste any money (except price of cd-r :)
[18:01:33] <ahwayakchih> gipfex_ if it will work, You may try to install r5 PE later and configure it whatever You want
[18:02:23] <gipfex_> ok
[18:04:00] <ahwayakchih> or buy BeOS r5 pro here http://store.purplus.net/beos.html if You want to use BeOS commercially (for work, selling things, etc..)
[18:04:18] <ahwayakchih> (but only after You'll be sure r5 works for You :)
[18:06:15] <gipfex_> umm the BeosMax website is closed
[18:06:19] <gipfex_> :_
[18:06:54] <ahwayakchih> heh
[18:08:23] <ahwayakchih> wait i'll try to find working url
[18:10:39] <gipfex_> heh
[18:11:00] <@Korli> bye
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[18:13:08] <gipfex_> ipfex_>	i found one mirror with BeosMax v3
[18:14:49] <ahwayakchih> latest version released was 3.1 beta IIRC
[18:16:34] <ahwayakchih> gipfex_ http://www.bebits.com/app/3892
[18:16:43] <ahwayakchih> download link works there
[18:23:19] <gipfex_> ok thanks
[18:25:27] <ahwayakchih> gipfex_ no problem :)
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[18:28:16] <gipfex_> ahwayakchih: why are you use beos? and not other operating system...
[18:28:50] <ahwayakchih> gipfex_ because it's best for me :)
[18:30:03] <ahwayakchih> it's fast, doesn't crash all the time, has nice GUI, simple to use, clean (well.. more or less) file system, queries, it's small, has almost everything i need to work ad or wast my time :)
[18:30:50] <ahwayakchih> cya everyone
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[18:31:13] <gipfex_> umm the beos system have a unix terminal?
[18:33:04] <@mahlzeit> it>	it has bash
[18:33:20] <gipfex_> uoo ok :)
[18:37:17] <TuneTracker> I had a potential TuneTracker user ask, "how secure is BeOS?"  Generally, he wants to know whether it's easy to hack into from the Internet.  He plans to use FTP and possibly Telnet.  Any opinions on that?
[18:37:46] <TuneTracker> He wants to get a sense of how safe his stuff will be on the machine.
[18:39:16] <TuneTracker> will check in later to see if anybody answers
[18:40:49] <@mahlzeit> the built-in ftp and telnet are not really secure
[18:41:07] <@mahlzeit> i.e. once you gain access, everything is free for the taking
[18:41:17] <@mahlzeit> whether it really is difficult to gain that access, i don't know
[18:42:06] <tic> Hey guys.
[18:42:11] <Dr3w> hey tic
[18:42:22] <tic> hey drew.
[18:42:27] <tic> mahlzeit, yeah, that'd be the problem.
[18:42:37] <Dr3w> mahlzeit, there is a known flaw on the ftp server, although I don't know what it is.
[18:43:52] <Dr3w> I seem to remember betips.net getting taken by it once.
[18:45:24] <@mahlzeit> the risk is: would the average cracker know, and what are the odds that a non-average cracker tries to break in
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[18:47:27] <TuneTracker> Would it be safe to say that it would take a fairly sophisticated cracker to break in?
[18:48:10] <tic> Yeah.
[18:49:01] <tic> there are probably exploits in the default ftpd and telnetd, but none that _I'm_ aware of.  The seasoned hacker, however, would look up the version number of ftpd and see if he finds anything in the known bugs. After-all, it _is_ almost 5 years old now.
[18:49:46] <gipfex_> linux is more secure that beos?
[18:50:42] <gipfex_> or is the same?
[18:50:43] <tic> thing is, beos doesn't have any network daemons running constantly, like Linux.
[18:51:03] <tic> I mean, if you turn off telnetd and ftpd, there's really no way to gain access to the box .):
[18:51:03] <tic> :)
[18:51:30] <gipfex_> xd
[18:51:34] <matricks> :)
[18:55:44] <gipfex_> and the haiku OS project will be 100% free and open source?
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[19:04:13] <@mahlzeit> heh, google for "beos exploit" :-)
[19:04:38] <tic> gipfex_, yes.
[19:04:42] <tic> rehi geist.
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[19:27:56] <CIA-2> rudolfc * current/src/add-ons/accelerants/nvidia/engine/nv_general.c: updated driver version number (0.31)
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[19:30:55] <CIA-2> rudolfc * current/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/nvidia/UPDATE.html: doc update.
[19:37:50] <CIA-2> rudolfc * current/headers/private/graphics/nvidia/nv_acc.h: added cmd struct for the textured_triange cmd. Check it out.. 8-)
[19:38:45] <tic> Hm, maybe one should get a NVidia card next.
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[19:42:08] <matricks> hoho.. rudolf is doing nice stuff
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[19:42:26] <@mahlzeit> he ain't the red-nosed reindeer for nothing
[19:42:31] <matricks> :)
[19:42:50] <tic> pfft :)
[19:42:59] * tic is waiting for cottage cheese+cheese pie
[19:43:07] <tic> and then, episode 17 of ducktales OR the Simpsons.
[19:43:26] * mahlzeit votes simpsons
[19:43:27] <tic> only 83 simpsons episodes left, after-all. ;)
[19:43:29] <tic> err
[19:43:30] <tic> ducktales.
[19:43:37] <tic> Yeah, Simpsons I don't have recorded.
[19:43:52] <tic> I'll check if I haven't seen it yet, probably have.
[19:43:52] <@mahlzeit> and it's not as braindead as ducktales
[19:43:56] <tic> bah!
[19:43:59] <tic> ducktales 4 teh win!
[19:44:06] <@mahlzeit> teh suck
[19:44:33] <tic> nah.
[19:44:42] <tic> I'm pragmatic; I can enjoy both simpsons and ducktales. ;)
[19:44:44] <@mahlzeit> it>	i could never get my pirate copy of ducktales for the c64 to run
[19:44:52] <tic> ah, so that's why it sucks? I see..
[19:44:59] <tic> any snow in wooden shoe land?
[19:45:07] <@mahlzeit> clear blue skies
[19:45:22] <@mahlzeit> black now, obviously
[19:45:57] <tic> ah.
[19:46:01] <tic> it started snowing yesterday
[19:46:08] <tic> all buss traffic out, crazy.
[19:46:14] <@mahlzeit> cool
[19:46:19] <@mahlzeit> it>	it never snows here with xmas
[19:47:36] <tic> rarely here either, but this time someone got it right.  I doubt it'll stay though; rumours has it there'll be plus degrees on 23rd or something, so it'll be slush puppie.
[19:49:05] <@mahlzeit> 60% chance of rain here on saturday, max +4 degrees
[19:50:19] <brennanOS> The roads are covered with ice here
[19:50:26] <brennanOS> It was a fun drive in to work
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[19:50:52] <tic> Why would one have a thread count of 0 for a sem?
[19:51:24] <@mahlzeit> to start in a blocked state
[19:52:13] <tic> so if I release the sem twice, it'll have a "thread count" of 2?
[19:52:27] <@mahlzeit> sounds right
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[19:53:44] <tic> okay, great.
[19:54:02] <tic> Is there a way of getting the number of threads currently holding a sem?
[19:54:04] <tic> i.e., the thread count?
[19:54:29] <tic> I'm working on replacing a bool+busy-loop w/ a semaphore in a producer/consumer setup. ;)
[19:56:28] <@mahlzeit> according to the bebook there is, but you shouldn't rely on it
[19:56:41] <tic> okay.
[19:56:51] <@mahlzeit> at least, that's what the hardcopy says :-)
[19:57:05] <tic> I'll probably do without; can't be /that/ difficult to implement a producer/consumer scheme using sems.
[19:57:26] <tic> My brain thinks in bools and busy-looping when doing that, need to re-learn myself. :)
[19:57:31] <tic> simpsons!  bbl.
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[20:45:02] <thaflo> Hallo emwe!
[20:45:12] <thaflo> Bin ja schon wieder hinterm Roter :-)
[20:45:20] 
[20:45:29] <thaflo> und hallo an alle sonst!
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[22:46:35] <ahwayakchih> mmu_man
[22:46:40] <@mmu_man> plop
[22:46:59] <ahwayakchih> ih>	i just sa Your patch to openssl for d :)
[22:47:02] <ahwayakchih> sa=saw
[22:47:20] <ahwayakchih> mmu_man why do You define "OPENSSL_SYSNAME_BEOS"?
[22:47:39] <ahwayakchih> ih>	i just used __BEOS__ all the way :)
[22:48:12] <@mmu_man> I guess I did like other OSes
[22:48:17] <@mmu_man> but yeah it's redundant
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[22:49:24] <ahwayakchih> but Your way to define BeOS compile options is nicer than my "faking linux-ppro" :)
[22:50:55] <ahwayakchih> can i use it?
[22:51:59] <ahwayakchih> (i'll have to change options itself fo r5, but i didn't know how to do proper config patch before :)
[22:52:22] <ahwayakchih> mmu_man i can give You rand_beos.c if You want :)
[22:52:32] <@mmu_man> sure
[22:52:34] <@mmu_man> what ?
[22:53:00] <ahwayakchih> or i'll give You whole patch for e, You'll just have to cutout r5 network stuff
[22:53:14] <ahwayakchih> ih>	i wrote rand generator for BeOS
[22:53:30] <ahwayakchih> unix and windows have their, so i wrote one for BeOS :)
[22:53:40] <@mmu_man> why that ? just use the fixed random driver
[22:53:53] <ahwayakchih> crypto/rand/rand_beos.c :)
[22:54:26] <ahwayakchih> well.. i wanted something more similar to other platforms
[22:54:43] <ahwayakchih> also this one generates enough data if there's no /dev/random
[22:54:48] <ahwayakchih> (AFAIK)
[22:55:38] <ahwayakchih> i'll try to also write dl routines so it won't have to be linked with libdl
[22:56:04] <@mmu_man> http://clapcrest.free.fr/revol/beos/private/haiku-random-fixed.zip
[22:57:15] <@mmu_man> AGMS's query parser is ugly and Axel's is in C++ :-(
[23:00:00] * dr_evil finished cleaning the bathroom
[23:00:09] <Bryan_W> eww
[23:00:30] <ahwayakchih> mmu_man what is -DNO_SYS_UN_H for?
[23:01:31] <@mmu_man> no <sys/un.h> :)
[23:01:35] <@mmu_man> (AF_UNIX sockets)
[23:02:18] <ahwayakchih> ah, THX :)
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[23:18:10] <@mmu_man> GRRRR
[23:18:18] <tic> what?
[23:18:22] <@mmu_man> configured with --enable-debug and it keeps -fomit-frame-pointer
[23:18:24] <@mmu_man> stupid
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