December 15, 2004  
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[00:00:32] <MikeW> unless you have to answer questions orally
[00:01:02] <tic> yes, indeed.
[00:01:22] <tic> err-- yes, that's indeed what I'm going to do.
[00:03:22] * Dr3w has been looking at the source...
[00:03:53] <Dr3w> I think that there is going to be a "community xmas present" of a Haiku that boots to a windowing system....
[00:04:45] <fyysik> hmm
[00:07:59] <MikeW> the kernel mode graphics driver?
[00:08:27] <Dr3w> I dunno, I was just trying to wind up some newbies in here :)O
[00:08:30] <tic> I doubt it..
[00:09:48] <MikeW> heh, they didn't get KGI or whatever else into the kernel that fast :)
[00:10:21] <MikeW> oh dear
[00:10:32] <MikeW> I fear I won't have ordered and received parts for my new computer by Christmas
[00:10:37] <MikeW> damn me for leaving it too late
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[00:36:17] <CIA-6> mmu_man * current/src/apps/bin/rescan.c:
[00:36:17] <CIA-6> 10000l do return somethng from main (how the hell did I forgot that ? I always do it usually) :)
[00:36:17] <CIA-6> Also dump some usage for --help
[00:37:51] <CIA-6> mmu_man * current/src/apps/bin/rescan.c: update doc url since bedriven is no more
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[00:55:09] <@mmu_man> zzz
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[01:13:39] <CIA-6> axeld * current/src/kernel/apps/ (mount/main.c mount/Jamfile unmount/Jamfile unmount/main.c): Removed unused mount/unmount commands.
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[01:27:57] <dipp> hmm when do the cvsviewer @ sf.net update so I can view the latest updates?
[01:37:35] <dipp> I take the silence as it never does...:,(
[01:38:31] <@geist> eh?
[01:39:35] <dipp> the cvsviewer located @ sf.net doesn't seem to reflect the very recentley changes that has been made to the source
[01:39:59] <@voidref> idref>	i guess that's becuase it goes off the anon replication ofthe source
[01:40:04] <@voidref> which takes aday or more to update
[01:40:38] <dipp> okay
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[02:43:51] <Tenzin> hi Karina
[02:51:59] <Tenzin> Karina do you use Darwin for anything,or only OS X ?
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[03:11:52] <monolith> onolith>	on the dano iso, what sector size is needed to burn it?
[03:12:07] <monolith> none of the mac apps i have can reco. the iso format
[03:15:37] <slaad> 2k, I think
[03:16:27] <monolith> 2048?
[03:16:40] <slaad> Si.
[03:16:44] <monolith> ok
[03:16:57] <monolith> you know if dano had hd support for large drives?
[03:17:02] <monolith> r5 certainly didn't
[03:18:14] <slaad> Define "support" ?
[03:18:23] <monolith> meaning
[03:18:31] <monolith> ith>	i could create a 120GB partition to install dano on
[03:18:36] <monolith> unlike r5
[03:18:42] <monolith> which i ended up making a 40GB partition for
[03:18:49] <slaad> R5 could support them.
[03:18:56] <slaad> Just that the R5 makebfs had a bug.
[03:18:56] <monolith> only with the updated ide driver
[03:19:00] <slaad> Which is fixed post R5.
[03:19:03] <monolith> ok
[03:19:07] <monolith> so dano == workable
[03:19:09] <monolith> good deal
[03:19:16] <slaad> R5 would support it, you just had to create the partition elsewhere.
[03:19:30] <monolith> gotcha, well, i'm doing this on install
[03:19:43] <monolith> anyways, this way i won't have to jack with updating quite as much at least
[03:19:47] <monolith> bone is in dano afaik
[03:19:51] <slaad> Indeed.
[03:19:53] <monolith> it's been years since i used beos
[03:19:59] <monolith> so i'm way out of date ;)
[03:20:13] <slaad> It's okay, you haven't missed much :P
[03:20:20] <monolith> hehe, so i've heard
[03:20:45] <monolith> i've been compiling kde for the past day and a half
[03:20:51] <monolith> onolith>	on the spare box i have
[03:21:00] <monolith> so pondering dumping beos onto it
[03:21:07] <monolith> one other question for you, it's an athlonxp
[03:21:09] <slaad> Eww, KDE :P
[03:21:17] <monolith> do i need to do anything funky with dano to get it to work?
[03:21:26] <slaad> Not sure, to be honest.
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[07:37:11] <Tenzin> where can I download haiku source ?
[07:37:11] <Tenzin> the links on haiku-os.org/factory don't seem to be source,and I don't knwo which files to dl from open-beos.sf.net
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[07:51:54] <Kernel86> Tenzin: i'm just guessing but cvs.openbeos.org maybe?
[07:52:42] <Tenzin> Kernel86:  I was about to type "Doh ! the third link in the topic " :)
[07:53:10] <Kernel86> @:P
[07:53:18] <Tenzin> looking at the headers page now,nice MacOS 9 folder icons BeOS colour
[07:54:21] * Kernel86 is just getting use to his lovely os x @:)
[07:54:47] <Kernel86> lmao, my busty keyboard is adding hair to all my smileys!
[07:55:02] <Kernel86> *busted
[07:55:46] <Tenzin> busty keyboards sound novel :)
[07:56:08] <Tenzin> two trackpoint nipples :)
[07:56:14] <Kernel86> got a few shorts in it and my cat drown the usb one i was using in place of it...
[07:56:16] <Kernel86> lol
[07:57:49] <Kernel86> well, sleep time... l8r
[08:00:55] <Tenzin> l8r
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[09:28:19] <JBurton> hi
[09:34:00] <Tenzin> how can I find the size of all or part of the cvs.openbeos tree ? i.e,to know much space I need to wget the header branch or part of it
[09:37:04] <@mmu_man> cvs co it, and use du -s :)
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[09:37:25] <JBurton> eheh
[09:37:35] <JBurton> or right click on the folder and "get info"
[09:37:54] <JBurton> anyway the whole tree is ~60 mb
[09:38:00] <JBurton> gzipped
[09:38:14] <JBurton> hm, no the whole CVS, sorry
[09:38:24] <JBurton> with history et all
[09:38:29] <Tenzin> cool,thanks
[09:44:31] <Tenzin> Doh ! cvs is in viewcvs py and UI have python cvs tools already installed I think :)
[09:44:45] <Tenzin> UI / I
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[10:24:03] <CIA-6> korli * current/ (2 files in 2 dirs): added get_rtc_info, needed in the kernel for services which use local timestamps such as the dos filesystem
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[10:24:35] <@Korli> hi JBurton
[10:27:35] <JBurton> hey Korli
[10:28:18] <JBurton> whats'up Korli ?
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[10:36:19] <JBurton> hi AnEvilYak
[10:36:55] <Dr3w> All Yak's are Evil.
[10:37:32] <Dr3w> JBurton, you didn't answer the other day - are you Team Haiku on distributed.net
[10:39:13] <JBurton> ah no :P
[10:39:43] <JBurton> I didn't understand the question the other day
[10:39:44] <JBurton> brb
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[10:42:00] <JBurton> re
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[11:00:44] <JBurton> hi |pst|
[11:00:50] <JBurton> nice connection
[11:00:52] <JBurton> :)
[11:02:42] <JBurton> Korli get_rtc_info() wasn't so complex :P, btw I'm glad to see Axel agreed on adding it :P
[11:02:52] <|pst|> Well :-)
[11:03:37] <JBurton> Korli did you try to run other applications on haiku ?
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[13:06:24] <jonaskirilla> hi
[13:07:34] <jonaskirilla> LCSCanada's site is down. I hope they haven't folded or something.
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[13:11:32] <Soulbender> www.lcsaudio.com works for me
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[13:16:33] <jonaskirilla> Soulbender: ah, lcsaudio!
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[13:19:43] <JBurton> bye all
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[13:21:41] <jonaskirilla> Soulbender: thanks
[13:21:49] <Soulbender> np
[13:22:15] <jonaskirilla> bbl
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[15:04:12] <CIA-6> axeld * current/src/apps/diskprobe/FindWindow.cpp:
[15:04:12] <CIA-6> Fixed a bug that I introduced with revision 1.9 when fixing the selection
[15:04:12] <CIA-6> deletion: you just couldn't delete over a ' ' with backspace...
[15:04:12] <CIA-6> Merged B_BACKSPACE and B_DELETE handling again.
[15:04:12] <CIA-6> Applied suggestions made by Stefano, like using ByteAt(x) over Text()[x].
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[15:20:57] <Tenzin> lol (14:14:21) quittt left the room (quit: Client Quit).
[15:21:20] <@mahlzeit> ?
[15:21:25] <matricks> ?
[15:22:03] <Tenzin> I'm going to Tenzin,see you later :)
[15:22:04] <Konrad_77> I think the numerous quit(t) was the funny part
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[15:22:44] <@mahlzeit> strange brits
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[15:23:31] * Methe whispers to Santa Claus mahlzeit's gift. hihi. I think i'm gonna laugh on 25
[15:23:44] <@mahlzeit> Methe: santa doesn't really exist
[15:23:50] <@mahlzeit> sorry, but someone had to break the news
[15:24:07] <Methe> haha
[15:24:10] <Methe> nice try
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[15:46:53] <CIA-6> axeld * current/src/apps/diskprobe/ (DataView.cpp DataView.h):
[15:46:53] <CIA-6> Started implementing drag&drop - for now, you can drag contents out of the
[15:46:53] <CIA-6> DiskProbe window only. Only ASCII clippings will contain "text/plain" data,
[15:46:53] <CIA-6> so don't be surprised if Tracker sometimes doesn't create a clipping file
[15:46:53] <CIA-6> (if you drop on Tracker).
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[17:00:54] <bs0> i have a problem with my Wacom PenPartner Serial...it works with both drivers from bebits, now i'm using the other one (not from becasso)...and works, but i can't click! nor on the becasso tablet driver...help me...
[17:03:04] <@mmu_man> which beos ?
[17:03:36] <bs0> zeta rc2
[17:04:09] <bs0> on max i cannot do anything, because inptserver hangs up (usb keyboard)
[17:04:20] <bs0> input_server*
[17:11:27] <@mmu_man> there is a known issue with tablet driver in Zeta, it's being fixed atm
[17:20:03] <@Korli> mmu_man how ?
[17:21:02] <Konrad> Hmm shoulldnt allocation with strdup be free(d)? instead of using delete?
[17:21:05] <@mmu_man> Korli well it actually seems fixed already :)
[17:21:18] <@mmu_man> Konrad indeed
[17:21:37] <Konrad> Well why dont they do that in the Hauku (Stringview.cpp ) for example
[17:21:41] <@mmu_man> though t's not in neo sp1
[17:21:57] <@mahlzeit> sounds like a bug
[17:22:04] <@mmu_man> Konrad send patches to mailto:openbeos at freelists dot org :)
[17:22:24] <Konrad> Hehe.. Iam saying it here.. that should be enough.. =)
[17:24:56] <dipp> code code!
[17:25:01] <Konrad> 155.1 Mb Source.. thats alot
[17:25:27] <Konrad> Fresh checkout
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[17:26:13] <w-ber> still not enough, though :)
[17:26:38] <matricks> :)
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[17:40:15] <sys2> http://www.keenjunk.com/sketchbk/pr20716.jpg <-- got to love monkeys :>
[17:43:44] <bs0> mmu_man: could you send me a patch for that tablet...for zeta rc2... ?
[17:44:14] <@mmu_man> nope, don't have the file anyway
[17:44:23] <bs0> :(
[17:44:34] <bs0> and I money for zeta
[17:44:55] <@mmu_man> well it should be in R1 when it's dested enough :)
[17:45:20] <bs0> in 2010 ??
[17:45:49] <bs0> through the RC4, RC5, RC6, RC7, RC8...
[17:45:53] <@mmu_man> before I hope :P
[17:46:07] <bs0> and earned big money
[17:46:14] <@mmu_man> not that big
[17:46:19] <@mmu_man> and I need to make a living :)
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[18:18:24] <CIA-6> korli * current/src/kits/interface/StringView.cpp:
[18:18:24] <CIA-6> Replaced delete[] by free() as noticed by Konrad on IRC
[18:18:24] <CIA-6> Better style
[18:18:49] <Konrad> Oh Iam famous.. bring in the ladies
[18:19:04] <Dr3w> "I'm a ladieeee"
[18:19:09] <Konrad> Hehe
[18:19:18] <Dr3w> in a high pitch voice
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[18:39:28] <LdrofLstSouls> does haiku have an iso out or does anyone have a bochs or vmware image?
[18:42:21] <@mahlzeit> there is a boot floppy for the kernel
[18:42:28] <@mahlzeit> also available as bochs image
[18:42:32] <@mahlzeit> but nothing more
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[18:44:47] <Dr3w> later folks.
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[19:12:36] <eazel7> hi pppl

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