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[17:05:33] <JBurton> hi ShackaN
[17:07:21] <ShackaN> hi
[17:09:41] <mumu25> .
[17:10:18] <CIA-6> axeld * current/src/apps/bin/listattr.cpp:
[17:10:18] <CIA-6> Some cosmetics. The string for unknown types no longer tries to print
[17:10:18] <CIA-6> unprintable characters, but replaces them with '.'; when there is more
[17:10:18] <CIA-6> than one unprintable character in the type code, it will show the hexcode
[17:10:18] <CIA-6> instead.
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[17:12:53] <JBurton> hi BGA
[17:14:08] <@BGA> JBurton!
[17:14:33] <NathanW> hi BGA
[17:15:21] <@BGA> NathanW!
[17:15:57] <NathanW> I released MDR 3 :)
[17:16:12] <CIA-6> axeld * current/src/kernel/core/fs/vfs.cpp:
[17:16:12] <CIA-6> The open attr dir syscalls didn't work correctly in the FD modes.
[17:16:12] <CIA-6> fd_and_path_to_vnode() now accepts NULL as path argument.
[17:16:12] <CIA-6> Added some more debug output and comments.
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[17:28:48] <@Korli> hey NathanW was there a MDR 2 ?
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[17:36:40] <JBurton> Korli Ingo said STL is still broken... do you know what's wrong with it ?
[17:38:24] <@Korli> JBurton no i didn't even ask
[17:38:46] <JBurton> hm okay
[17:38:52] <@Korli> it prevents CppUnit tests to build or run i suppose
[17:39:15] <JBurton> ah ok I see
[17:39:25] <JBurton> (in the log)
[17:41:25] <JBurton> Korli did you try to run unzip, patch or vim ?
[17:41:35] <@Korli> no
[17:42:05] <JBurton> it would be great to have vim working :P
[17:42:22] <@Korli> i>	i won't even try because of our term
[17:42:49] <JBurton> ah right our term sucks
[17:43:17] <JBurton> though patch should be trivial, as diff works
[17:43:26] <JBurton> and patch shouldn't be much more complex
[17:43:53] <@Korli> correct
[17:45:04] <JBurton> hmmm I really want to have a working image
[17:45:17] <JBurton> the old userlandfsserver wouldn't let me
[17:45:33] <JBurton> I had "general OS error" every time I tried to mount anything
[17:45:46] <JBurton> as soon as I have time I'll try with the new one
[17:46:17] <JBurton> oh listdev would be also nice to have
[17:46:34] <JBurton> (needs a working config manager module)
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[17:55:37] <@Korli> JBurton this config manager is a good question i asked to axeld, device policy isn't fixed yet
[17:57:02] <JBurton> ah yes, true
[17:57:10] <JBurton> I asked him about the devfs the other day
[17:57:10] <JBurton> too
[17:58:27] <JBurton> ah mahlzeit there is a bug in rc
[17:58:28] <JBurton> :P
[17:58:45] <@Korli> nah there are bugs in rc :p
[17:58:49] <JBurton> lol
[17:59:17] <@mahlzeit> impossible
[17:59:28] <JBurton> eeheh, well phoudoin thinks so
[17:59:29] <JBurton> http://www.bebits.com/talkback/2289
[18:00:08] <@mahlzeit> well that's a pretty big assumption
[18:00:18] <JBurton> eheh I know
[18:00:23] <JBurton> though I got your attention mahlzeit :))
[18:00:39] <@mahlzeit> that's because my irc client started blinking :-)
[18:00:48] <JBurton> eheheehh
[18:01:11] <@mahlzeit> anyway, you'll have to fix any bugs yourself because i have no beos atm
[18:01:28] <JBurton> ooh bad
[18:01:36] <JBurton> :P
[18:01:54] <JBurton> then I take back what I said
[18:01:57] <JBurton> there are no bugs in rc
[18:01:58] <JBurton> :P
[18:02:05] <@mahlzeit> exactly :-)
[18:02:08] <JBurton> eheh
[18:03:09] <@Korli> i>	i hope to fix float support soon
[18:03:30] <JBurton> Korli in libio ?
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[18:10:13] <@Korli> JBurton yes
[18:10:24] <JBurton> ok
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[18:12:29] <JBurton> hi Koki
[18:14:18] <JBurton> leaving now, Korli mahlzeit et all
[18:14:20] <JBurton> bye all
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[18:24:32] <CIA-6> korli * current/headers/posix/ctype.h: added _tolower and _toupper
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[18:55:10] * NathanW is ultra confused
[18:55:22] <NathanW> I sanyone here using MDR 3?
[18:57:53] <Dr_Evil> no, MDR 4 beta 7 is much better, so we are all using that one
[18:58:09] <NathanW> hahaha
[18:58:23] <Koki> I am NathanW
[18:58:24] <NathanW> Some people are having trouble with it that I simply can't reproduce
[18:58:39] <Koki> what kind of problems?
[18:58:46] <NathanW> Talkback is full of people with bitmaps that don't show up, or dissapearing icons
[18:58:57] <NathanW> And I absolutely cannot reproduce any of them
[18:59:01] <NathanW> http://www.bebits.com/talkback/2289
[18:59:12] <Koki> checking
[18:59:41] <MikeW> hey NathanW
[18:59:45] <MikeW> did MYOB get back to ya?
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[19:01:50] <Koki> NathanW, no problems here.
[19:02:06] <NathanW> nope
[19:02:24] <NathanW> Koki, yeah, I just don't understand what's going on on these people's machines
[19:05:01] <Koki> Actually, the deksbar icon did not show after installation. But just restarting the mail_daemon did the trick for me. Have been using it for a day, and no problems so far.
[19:05:37] <Koki> gotta go now.
[19:05:48] <NathanW> thanks
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[19:17:34] <@mahlzeit> it>	it *could* be related to rc, like phoudoin suggested
[19:21:07] <@mahlzeit> (as in: endianness issues)
[19:21:13] <NathanW> what I don't understand is why it works perfectly here
[19:21:24] <NathanW> I just installed the package off BeBits
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[19:21:31] <NathanW> And it works fine on many systems
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[19:22:45] <@mahlzeit> do the bitmaps require translators?
[19:23:50] <NathanW> They are archived BBitmaps
[19:24:22] <@mahlzeit> and you just unflatten them, so no translator kit magic?
[19:24:44] <NathanW> yep
[19:24:56] <@Dr_Evil> do we have a working VNC server? that would be nice for these problems
[19:25:18] <NathanW> BMemoryIO stream(data, len);
[19:25:18] <@mahlzeit> the strange thing is that phoudoin claims that you can make it work by using quickres -- that would imply the problem is in the .rsrc file
[19:25:18] <NathanW> stream.Seek(0, SEEK_SET);
[19:25:20] <NathanW> BMessage archive;
[19:25:20] <NathanW> if (archive.Unflatten(&stream) != B_OK)
[19:25:20] <NathanW> goto err;
[19:25:21] <NathanW> newIcon = new BBitmap(&archive);
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[19:25:35] <NathanW> But I've verified locally that the resources are fine
[19:25:54] <NathanW> I don't understand either
[19:25:56] <sys2> what are you coding ? .. basic?
[19:26:01] <@mahlzeit> so maybe that wasn't a fix, but a misdiagnosis
[19:26:02] <NathanW> The entire thing makes no sense
[19:26:08] <NathanW> sys2: heh, it's BGA's code :P
[19:26:45] <@mahlzeit> the it-works-on-some-systems-but-not-on-others reeks of a thread issue, actually
[19:26:46] <sys2> if(archive.Unflatten....) newIcon = new B.....; else error;
[19:26:47] <sys2> :>
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[19:27:45] <NathanW> mahlzeit: The strange thing is that that code hasn't changed since the last release
[19:27:58] <NathanW> athanW>	at all
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[19:28:20] <@mahlzeit> it>	it would be interesting to know what the common thing is between the people with the problem; i.e. are they all running some weird version of opentracker
[19:28:43] <NathanW> AlienSoldier, on BeShare, is running R5+BONE with OT 5.2.1
[19:28:51] <NathanW> i.e., my configuration
[19:29:47] <@mahlzeit> hmm
[19:30:08] <sys2> OT ?
[19:30:18] <NathanW> OpenTracker
[19:30:38] <sys2> ahh
[19:30:54] <NathanW> I especially don't understand, because that code has not changed *at all* since the last release
[19:30:58] <NathanW> not a line
[19:31:17] <@mahlzeit> well, something must have changed somewhere, if not in the code, then somewhere else :-)
[19:31:28] <tic> Why does OT suck so much?  Or, is there a way of disabling the open-one-folder-in-multiple-workspaces?
[19:31:55] <NathanW> yeah, I know
[19:33:02] <sys2> tic ?
[19:33:33] <tic> sys2, what?
[19:34:25] <sys2> open in multiple workspaces?
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[19:35:45] <tic> sys2, yes.
[19:36:13] <tic> sys2, if I've got /boot open in one workspace, switch to another, I don't want -two- windows to open up /boot on different workspaces. I want the last opened folder window to be moved to the current workspace.
[19:36:15] <tic> like it _used_ to be.
[19:37:22] <sys2> that sounds a bit stupid .. what do you do when you need to have two windows on two diferent workspaces then ?
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[19:39:14] <tic> sys2, 1) Open /boot in Workspace 1.  2) Switch to Workspace 2. 3) Open /boot.
[19:39:26] <tic> Here, I want the window in Workspace 1 to be moved to Workspace 2.
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[19:39:32] <tic> But what happens, is that a _new_ window is opened
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[19:41:50] <_jasper_> hi
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[19:53:17] <Dr_Evil2> tic 8 pm is disconnect time
[19:53:28] <tic> Dr_Evil2, sheesh.
[19:53:39] <tic> it's crazy! :)
[19:54:34] <Dr_Evil2> at least the ip is the same as before
[19:55:22] <tic> yay.
[19:59:11] <tic> simpsons!
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[20:36:44] <@mahlzeit> *click*
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[20:37:51] <Methe_> lier
[20:37:52] <Methe_> again
[20:39:50] <Methe_> yesterday
[20:39:56] <Methe_> I read "The Farm" again
[20:40:05] <Methe_> I exumated it from it's hashes
[20:40:14] <Methe_> was really bad script lol :DD
[20:41:44] <@mahlzeit> heh heh
[20:41:54] <@mahlzeit> told you so :-) (just kidding)
[20:42:02] <Methe_> well
[20:42:06] <Methe_> it's indeed is
[20:44:31] <@mahlzeit> see ya
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[20:56:19] <reflectioned> Hello :D
[20:56:45] <_jasper_> hi
[20:57:23] <_jasper_> bye
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[20:59:38] <reflectioned> Well =/
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[21:03:53] <Dr3w> geist: are you around?
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[21:11:22] <reflectioned> Dr3w I'm around ;)
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[21:14:04] <reflectioned> Very well then Dr3w :(
[21:14:10] <Dr3w> Heh, have you ever done any programming with OpenFirmware on both SPARC and PPC machines?
[21:14:13] <reflectioned> I'm going to cry myself to sleep now, excuse me
[21:14:24] <reflectioned> Nope but once I progammed in java script :D
[21:14:31] <reflectioned> It took me 40 hours
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