[00:04:56] <NathanW> can anyone here use AIM?
[00:07:42] * mmadia .
[00:08:18] <@mmu_man> Aol hIt Me ?
[00:11:06] <AnEvilYak> lol
[00:11:15] <AnEvilYak> NathanW: my Sidekick's on AIM fine.
[00:11:16] <Koki> NathanW: aim:KokS413
[00:13:44] <@mmu_man> crap openssl which requires symlinking all its files to make a VPATH build
[00:23:15] <CIA-6> korli * current/configure: Fix a bug with timezones defined through Link (hint from Ingo).
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[00:29:54] <@Dr_Evil> mmu_man I finished the I2C cleanup now, code still seems to be stable :-)
[00:30:54] <@mmu_man> :)
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[00:40:18] <@mmu_man> ok now symlinks are done only once :)
[00:41:09] <@mmu_man> now config is ran only once :)
[00:41:14] <@mmu_man> getting there :)
[00:45:41] <@mmu_man> yeah I bootstrapped the all target now
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[00:58:36] <NathanW> Dr_Evil: so it's a gfx driver? :P
[00:59:11] <@Dr_Evil> NathanW a DVB-T card, Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA-T model 928
[00:59:25] <NathanW> ah, ok
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[01:28:32] <CIA-6> korli * current/headers/private/kernel/ (real_time_clock.h real_time_data.h syscalls.h):
[01:28:32] <CIA-6> added timezone_offset and dst_observed fields to real_time_data
[01:28:32] <CIA-6> added prototypes for set_tzspecs, used for setting these fields
[01:31:33] <@voidref> spammer
[01:32:42] <CIA-6> korli * current/src/kernel/core/real_time_clock.c:
[01:32:42] <CIA-6> timezone_offset and dst_observed fields of real_time_data struct are inited
[01:32:42] <CIA-6> timezone_offset is used to have GMT real_time_clock() and set_real_time_clock()
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[01:35:41] <CIA-6> korli * current/src/kernel/libroot/os/time.c:
[01:35:41] <CIA-6> added new fields to the real_time_date replacement struct
[01:35:41] <CIA-6> timezone_offset is used to have a GMT real_time_clock()
[01:35:41] <CIA-6> initial set_timezone implementation (still not working)
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[01:46:36] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/add-ons/kernel/partitioning_systems/session/Jamfile: extract common files and build once
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[02:03:52] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/apps/bin/eject.c: address compiler warning
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[02:09:23] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/apps/bin/compress/Jamfile: suppress warnings for imported code
[02:12:46] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/apps/bin/patch/Jamfile: suppress warnings for imported code
[02:14:03] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/apps/bin/sed-4.0.9/sed/Jamfile: suppress warnings for imported code
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[02:15:28] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/apps/bin/rcs/Jamfile: suppress warnings for imported code
[02:18:15] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/apps/expander/ExpanderRules.cpp: address compiler warning
[02:26:32] <@geist> hooga
[02:26:49] <@AndrewBachmann> hrm?
[02:30:08] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/libs/agg/Jamfile: suppress warnings for imported code
[02:31:32] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/prefs/devices/DevicesWindow.cpp: address compiler warning
[02:34:38] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/prefs/filetypes/FileTypesApp.h: address compiler warning
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[02:52:06] <@AndrewBachmann> no cvs :-(
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[03:01:20] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/prefs/network/ (Network.cpp funcs.cpp): address compiler warnings
[03:01:42] <@AndrewBachmann> lol, guess I should be careful when testing the Network pref :-)
[03:31:51] <CIA-6> shatty * current/Jamrules: allow resources as a fourth argument to the App rule, similar to the BinCommand
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[03:32:18] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/apps/stylededit/Jamfile: extract common elements and build once
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[03:32:50] <ChuffyCow> anybody from the BeArchive project?
[03:34:10] <@AndrewBachmann> BeArchive?
[03:35:53] <ChuffyCow> http://justbe.ath.cx:666/resources/archive.html
[03:36:22] <ChuffyCow> I have a large chunk of software to contribute (5 years of never deleting a download)
[03:36:37] <@AndrewBachmann> hmann>	hm I could contribute some too
[03:36:52] <@AndrewBachmann> the date on some of those is quite recent
[03:37:24] <ChuffyCow> %du -h /archives/BeOS
[03:37:32] <ChuffyCow> 2.8G    /archives/BeOS
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[03:40:09] <@AndrewBachmann> NathanW you still at uchicago?
[03:40:18] <NathanW> yep
[03:40:48] <@AndrewBachmann> where's home for you?
[03:40:57] <NathanW> Boston
[03:41:07] <@AndrewBachmann> going back for the holidays?
[03:41:39] <NathanW> yep
[03:41:48] <NathanW> I got plane tickets for $5, too
[03:41:56] <@AndrewBachmann> wow
[03:41:58] <@AndrewBachmann> how?
[03:42:26] <NathanW> frewuent flier miles, all the way :)
[03:42:31] <@AndrewBachmann> I figured :-)
[03:42:31] <NathanW> frequent
[03:42:33] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/tests/add-ons/translators/TranslatorTestAddOn.cpp: address compiler warnings
[03:44:16] <Karat3> is beos posix compatible?
[03:44:44] <@AndrewBachmann> somewhat
[03:44:49] <@AndrewBachmann> mostly, even, perhaps
[03:45:20] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/tests/add-ons/translators/ (2 files in 2 dirs): address compiler warnings
[03:47:00] <@AndrewBachmann> when are you going to be leaving/returning to chicago NathanW?
[03:47:21] <NathanW> wednesday afternoon, and sunday morning
[03:47:35] <@AndrewBachmann> ah, how about christmas?
[03:47:49] <NathanW> later
[03:47:59] <NathanW> I'm actually not going home then
[03:48:01] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/apps/bin/findutils/locate/Jamfile: suppress warnings in imported code
[03:48:01] <NathanW> blah
[03:48:05] <NathanW> why?
[03:48:05] <@AndrewBachmann> oic
[03:48:14] <Karat3> i think the most difficult thing in haiku is the application interface
[03:48:15] <@AndrewBachmann> I'm going back to chicago sometime around christmas
[03:48:17] <NathanW> And why is BeAIM not working anymore?
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[03:49:18] <Karat3> i could write a jabber client for beos
[03:49:19] <Karat3> :)
[03:49:51] <ChuffyCow> write a plugin for the IM Kit
[03:49:59] <@AndrewBachmann> yeah
[03:50:02] <NathanW> AndrewBachmann: Are you from here?
[03:50:09] <@AndrewBachmann> yes
[03:50:20] <NathanW> ah, cool
[03:50:32] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/add-ons/print/drivers/pcl6/Jamfile: suppress warnings on imported code
[03:50:33] <Karat3> ChuffyCow: what IM Kit?
[03:52:19] <ChuffyCow> the IM Kit in development for BeOS-like OS's
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[03:59:23] <@AndrewBachmann> anybody seen tyler dauwalder?
[04:00:50] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/add-ons/kernel/partitioning_systems/session/session.cpp: added casts for deleting void*, this should cause destructors to be invoked now
[04:02:41] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/apps/bin/sed-4.0.9/lib/Jamfile: suppress warnings on imported code
[04:03:54] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/kernel/libroot/posix/glibc/regex/Jamfile: suppress warnings on imported code
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[04:38:36] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/audio/echo/ (24/Jamfile gals/Jamfile): jamfile simplification
[04:39:23] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/audio/echo/generic/CDarla24DspCommObject.h: address compiler warning
[04:50:58] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/network/bcm440x/Jamfile: suppress warnings on imported code
[05:11:45] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/apps/bin/gawk/awk.h: address compiler warnings
[05:12:53] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/libs/termcap/Jamfile: supress warnings on imported code
[05:14:09] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/apps/bin/gzip/Jamfile: supress warnings on imported code
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[05:17:40] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/apps/bin/bzip2/Jamfile: build resources once, supress warnings for imported code
[05:19:37] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/apps/bin/tar/src/Jamfile: suppress warnings on imported code
[05:23:24] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/libs/pdflib/libs/pdflib/Jamfile: suppress warnings on imported code
[05:24:23] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/libs/pdflib/libs/pdcore/Jamfile: suppress warnings on imported code
[05:26:27] <@AndrewBachmann> sigh, 1500 lines of build output still remain
[05:26:28] <@AndrewBachmann> yikes
[05:28:23] <@geist> fun
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[05:34:29] <@AndrewBachmann> I think I'll stop pleasing the compiler for the evening :-)
[05:42:29] <CIA-6> shatty * current/headers/os/support/Debug.h: avoid missing prototype warning
[05:43:41] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/apps/bemail/Jamfile: use shared headers
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[06:58:36] <@Sikosis> is>	is haiku-os.org down ?
[06:59:04] <@Sikosis> my packets are being dropped at 64.200.56.70
[07:01:01] <@AndrewBachmann> down
[07:04:38] <@Sikosis> ikosis>	i cleaned up the factory a little yesterday and got it building again but then it failed during the ftp
[07:05:18] <@Sikosis> ive also got another machine im proly going to replace the factory with ... a P3 800 ... it runs beos really well and it shutsdown and starts up with no assistance required :)
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[07:14:54] <@AndrewBachmann> 644 lines of warnings in my last build
[07:15:15] <@AndrewBachmann> 81 due to bind
[07:15:18] * bs0 is away: off to school
[07:15:39] <@AndrewBachmann> 73 related to usb stuff
[07:17:10] <@AndrewBachmann> 71 due to networking stuff not bind
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[07:31:02] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/tests/kits/storage/disk_device/DiskDeviceTest.cpp: Ingo claims VisitEachPartition is the same as VisitAll, so I fixed this compile problem by changing VisitAll into VisitEachPartition
[07:40:23] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/add-ons/kernel/generic/atomizer/atomizer.c: changed T_ATOMIZER_MODULE_NAME to B_ATOMIZER_MODULE_NAME for compiling under DEBUG
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[07:42:45] <@AndrewBachmann> yo monni
[07:43:03] <Monni> shatty burger ;)
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[08:19:36] <@AndrewBachmann> time to go
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[08:50:50] <vava> hal\\
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[09:09:51] <JBurton> hi all
[09:10:07] <Konrad> Morning JBurton
[09:10:12] <JBurton> hi Koki
[09:10:13] <JBurton> er
[09:10:14] <JBurton> Konrad
[09:10:15] <JBurton> damn
[09:10:22] <JBurton> well, hi Koki too
[09:10:24] <JBurton> ^_^
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[09:13:59] <NathanW> someone really should do a BeOS distro that doesn't suck
[09:14:16] <Konrad> NathanW feel free to do one..
[09:14:19] <NathanW> PE + stable Haiku components (StyledEdit, ShowImage, MDR, etc.) + drivers
[09:14:28] <Konrad> + BONE
[09:14:35] <NathanW> That's legally questionable
[09:14:46] <NathanW> which is the problem
[09:14:49] <Konrad> Really? Who would say something?
[09:14:54] <NathanW> I don't know
[09:14:57] <Konrad> =)
[09:15:00] <Konrad> exactly
[09:15:05] <NathanW> I'm still uncomfortable, though
[09:15:08] <JBurton> same here
[09:15:11] <JBurton> I wouldn't use it
[09:15:19] <sys2> NathanW, how about start with PE and build your own distro from that? :P
[09:15:29] <Konrad> Can you apply pathces like AMD/INTEL patch legally?
[09:15:31] <NathanW> that's what I was saying
[09:15:34] <NathanW> yeah
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[09:15:41] <NathanW> I'm pretty sure, anyway
[09:15:51] <NathanW> And have no reason to believe the contrary
[09:15:54] <Konrad> So you can change a binary without breaking the law?
[09:16:22] <NathanW> It doesn't change binaries
[09:16:50] <Konrad> Eh? GenunineAMD is changed with diskprobe if Iam not misstaken
[09:17:42] <NathanW> nope
[09:17:44] <Konrad> JBurton did you see my private msg?
[09:17:48] <NathanW> It just replaces some text files
[09:18:00] <Konrad> NathanW I changed it in the binary
[09:18:20] <Konrad> But NathanW I think thats an good idea
[09:18:28] <Konrad> Install the new compiler aswell
[09:18:40] <NathanW> yeah
[09:18:44] <NathanW> new dev tools
[09:18:48] <NathanW> new drivers
[09:18:49] <NathanW> etc.
[09:19:01] <NathanW> So you don't have to patch it to hell and back as soon as you download it
[09:19:58] <Konrad> NathanW that would be nice..
[09:20:05] <NathanW> It's hard to say whether you want to apply the AMD patch, though, by default
[09:20:09] <Konrad> Nov 22 08:20:09 <Konrad>	No bloat.. just needful things
[09:20:17] <NathanW> Since it turns off some nice optimizations on x86
[09:20:19] <NathanW> but yeah
[09:20:25] <NathanW> Maybe I'll do it
[09:20:30] <NathanW> It shouldn't be too hard
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[09:20:40] <NathanW> And definitely worth while
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[09:21:07] <NathanW> OT, StyledEdit, OBOS Screen, ShowImage, MDR, Haiku drivers (and Patrick's drivers)
[09:21:29] <NathanW> Haiku translation kit
[09:22:22] <Konrad> + Olivers GCC
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[09:22:30] <NathanW> right
[09:22:32] <NathanW> that too
[09:22:45] <JBurton> patrick's drivers ?
[09:22:50] <NathanW> We should build a new libroot, with the new libc, libio stuff
[09:22:52] <JBurton> what are those ?
[09:22:53] <Konrad> 3c90x
[09:22:57] <JBurton> ah
[09:22:58] <JBurton> ok
[09:23:00] <NathanW> 3c920, 3c920, hfa384x
[09:23:28] <Konrad> NathanW the 3c9201 doesnt work well here.. I have a lockup.. maybe I shold mail about that
[09:23:36] <NathanW> my broadcom ones, if I can figure out why in hell they don't work on net_server
[09:23:36] <JBurton> yeah you should Konrad
[09:23:42] <NathanW> Even with the new version?
[09:23:47] <Konrad> NathanW yes
[09:24:09] <Konrad> It hangs after BeOS inits the desktop.. I guess it does some ifconfig there
[09:24:18] <Konrad> Totall lock
[09:24:44] <NathanW> weird
[09:25:04] <Konrad> Yes because it worked for some time
[09:25:17] <Konrad> And then one day it decided to not work for me
[09:25:22] <JBurton> Konrad serial debug output could help
[09:25:48] <JBurton> I guess it tries to acquire a spinlock twice, or acquire a semaphore with interrupts disabled
[09:26:07] <JBurton> that's the stuff which could cause a total lock
[09:26:07] <Konrad> Serial debug how?
[09:26:31] <JBurton> with another pc connected via serial port :P
[09:26:37] <Konrad> I dont even have a serial port ( none of my machines has a serial port )
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[09:27:39] <NathanW> hi mmu_man
[09:31:25] <JBurton> ah bad, Konrad :P
[09:31:26] <JBurton> hi mmu_man
[09:32:07] <@mmu_man> hi
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[09:53:13] <@Korli> hi mmu_man geist JBurton
[09:53:14] <JBurton> hi Korli
[09:54:39] <@mmu_man> plop
[09:56:08] <CIA-6> mmu_man * current/src/kernel/libroot/os/find_directory.c: C version of find_directory, still needs some rework.
[09:58:32] <JBurton> yay!
[09:58:38] <JBurton> triple hurrah for mmu_man
[09:58:40] <JBurton> _=)
[09:58:42] <JBurton> :)
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[10:05:05] <@geist> hi Korli
[10:05:13] <CIA-6> mmu_man * current/src/kernel/libroot/os/find_directory.c: make use of COMPILE_FOR_R5, make some things static.
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[10:13:29] <JBurton> hi BNickName brb in 10 minutes :)
[10:13:42] <BNickName> hi JBurton :)
[10:15:29] <@Korli> thanks mmu_man
[10:15:40] <@Korli> hi BNickName
[10:15:49] <BNickName> hi Korli :)
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[10:17:55] <@Korli> ok je testerai au pire :)
[10:18:38] <@mmu_man> je sais pas ce qu'il faut utiliser pour construire les chemins vers les volumes
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[10:19:22] <@mmu_man> _kopen_vn_...
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[10:23:57] <JBurton> re
[10:24:15] <CIA-6> mmu_man * current/src/kernel/libroot/os/find_directory.c: #define OSDIR to "beos" and use it, so we can later just change that
[10:26:27] <@Korli> mmu_man question bete : les appels posix ne fonctionnent pas ?
[10:26:36] <@Korli> plutot que les syscalls ?
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[10:33:13] <@mmu_man> BVolume fait pareil pour trouver le chemin
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[10:34:31] <JBurton> hey how come you're allowed to talk french here ? :P
[10:35:25] <@mmu_man> [10:31] [x] Channels: #marrowdev #ffmpeg @#haiku
[10:35:36] <@mmu_man> .                                                                                ^ because of that
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[10:35:43] <@BGA> :)
[10:36:00] <JBurton> lol mmu_man :P
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[10:39:15] <@Korli> sorry JBurton :p
[10:39:36] <JBurton> np I was just joking Korli :P
[10:39:51] <@Korli> :)
[10:40:48] <@mmu_man> BGA I finally checked in my find_directory() code :p
[10:41:04] <JBurton> about time, mmu_man :)
[10:41:12] <JBurton> I have been bugging you for ages :P
[10:42:15] <@BGA> mmu_man: Let me guess... Unfinished. :)
[10:42:48] <@mmu_man> works for r5
[10:42:55] <@Korli> BGA untested on haiku :)
[10:44:29] <@BGA> Excuses, excuses...
[10:44:34] <JBurton> lol
[10:45:00] <@geist> what does find_directory() do anyway?
[10:46:10] <@mmu_man> map constants to paths
[10:46:25] <@geist> oh it's a beos thing
[10:46:27] <@mmu_man> B_APPS_DIRECTORY to /boot/apps
[10:46:40] <@mmu_man> yup
[10:46:55] <@geist> not a very good name
[10:47:12] <JBurton> well yeah it's misleading
[10:47:16] <@mmu_man> if everyone use it correctly it would be easy to enable multiuser in R5...
[10:47:34] <JBurton> bah who needs multiuser anyway
[10:47:37] <JBurton> :======))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
[10:47:46] <@mmu_man> well it finds a directory from a symbolic name
[10:48:05] <@mmu_man> JBurton me
[10:48:07] <@geist> the beos architecture has some issues with multiuser
[10:48:17] <@mmu_man> for samba 3.0.0, sshd...
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[10:48:20] <@geist> for example, in what context does the mail_daemon run in?
[10:48:25] <JBurton> mmu_man suffering from multi personalities syndrome ?
[10:48:26] <JBurton> ^_^
[10:48:28] <@geist> does it handle all of the users mail?
[10:48:29] <@mmu_man> geist not much, rather big holes
[10:48:39] <@geist> what about media_server, etc
[10:48:45] <@geist> we had issues when we turned it on at Be
[10:48:55] <@geist> for the most part everything worked, but the *design* was flawed
[10:48:56] <JBurton> brb
[10:49:00] <@mmu_man> heard about it
[10:49:02] <@geist> lots of the servers were goig to have to be rewritten
[10:49:24] <@mmu_man> yeah, well cloning shared areas ...
[10:49:42] <@mmu_man> should be priviledged... but then
[10:49:42] <@geist> right and that says nothing about the global namespaces most of the kernel objects sit in
[10:50:13] <@mmu_man> well I got some luck on R5 once...
[10:50:25] <@geist> OS X actually has at least one multiuser problem. if you start up itunes with sharing, switch to another user, then try to run itunes again it doesn't work right
[10:50:34] <@geist> since itunes is coded to only allow one instance at a time
[10:50:41] <@mmu_man> lol yeah
[10:50:43] <@geist> lots of the beos servers had similar problems
[10:50:54] <@mmu_man> we have that flag too... its meaning should be changed
[10:51:02] <@mmu_man> rather fix registrar
[10:51:26] <@geist> anyhoo, going to sleep
[10:51:27] <@geist> see ya!
[10:53:17] <@mmu_man> that and rootfs which doesn't know what permissions are :)
[10:53:20] <@mmu_man> anyway
[10:55:40] <@Korli> if the design is flawed, why are we remaking R5 ? :)
[10:56:42] <@mmu_man> don't ask me :p
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[10:58:09] <@mmu_man> hmm does our media kit load_add_on() a plugin for each instance or is it kind enough to reuse the image ?
[11:00:10] <@Korli> mmu_man i think the plugin is loaded in the app context
[11:00:56] <@Korli> unless the kernel reuse the same image when load_addon, it doesn't reuse it
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[11:11:55] <@mmu_man> no it doesn't
[11:12:03] <@mmu_man> load_add_on makes a new image each time
[11:12:06] <@mmu_man> at least in R5
[11:12:20] <@mmu_man> it's problematic since libavcodec needs locking when calling avcodec_init()
[11:12:37] <@mmu_man> it's not in ffdecoder (or maybe it's),but it won't work if used that way...
[11:12:50] <@mmu_man> and it seems noone is interested in having the locking in lavc itself :^)
[11:13:00] <@mmu_man> though it'd be much simpler
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[11:16:34] <w-ber> fscking net_server crashed again
[11:29:56] <JBurton> mmu_man "need to know what I should use
[11:29:56] <JBurton> in haiku to build up path from dev/inode of the mountpoint...
[11:30:23] <@mmu_man> yep
[11:30:23] <JBurton> mmu_man isn't BEntry suited for that work ?
[11:30:36] <@mmu_man> R5 uses undocumented syscalls and bad things like open()ing a folder
[11:30:44] <@mmu_man> JBurton from *libroot*
[11:30:49] <JBurton> oh s**t
[11:30:49] <@mmu_man> no C++ object
[11:30:51] <JBurton> :P
[11:30:52] <@mmu_man> :p
[11:31:12] <@mmu_man> but probably ourBEntry or BVolume implementation has some hints, thx :)
[11:31:24] <JBurton> well, actually, it's "no objects from libbe"
[11:31:30] <JBurton> I guess you can use C++ objects
[11:31:37] <@mmu_man> yup
[11:31:39] <JBurton> :)
[11:31:53] <@mmu_man> but I'd like to keep C++ where it belongs
[11:31:57] <JBurton> oki :P
[11:32:01] <@mmu_man> seems some others don't share that idea  though :)
[11:32:07] <JBurton> we all know you're a C addict anyway :P
[11:32:09] <@mmu_man> c++ in kernel... shrug
[11:32:18] <JBurton> eheh
[11:32:25] <matricks> Is there a page that describes how to boot haiku on a computer? not with bochs etc
[11:32:35] <JBurton> hmmmmmm...........................
[11:32:36] <JBurton> hmmmmmm...........................
[11:32:36] <JBurton> hmmmmmm...........................
[11:32:37] <JBurton> hmmmmmm...........................
[11:32:37] <JBurton> no
[11:32:38] <JBurton> :)
[11:32:59] <JBurton> mmu_man I think I remind of some "get_ref_from_path" and "get_path_from_ref"
[11:33:07] <JBurton> or something like that
[11:33:16] <JBurton> dunno if I found them in our repository
[11:33:17] <matricks> basterds :\
[11:34:03] <@Korli> JBurton did you see the haiku news on osnews ?
[11:34:05] <JBurton> mmu_man well, actually, I think you can construct an entry_ref (mhhh dunno if it's in libbe) and get the path from ther, no ?
[11:34:07] <JBurton> Korli yeah
[11:34:13] <JBurton> Korli quite a weird news item
[11:34:25] <@Korli> seems weird yeah, since when cvs log are news ?
[11:34:39] <JBurton> Korli Eugenia totally missed the game kit news of many months ago, and now this ?
[11:34:50] <JBurton> bah
[11:34:54] <@mmu_man> I guess I could do some entry ref likle {dev, , "."}
[11:35:05] <JBurton> yeah, mmu_man
[11:35:20] <JBurton> though, is entry_ref defined in libroot or libbe ?
[11:35:23] <@mmu_man> not sure I have  the inode...
[11:35:35] <@Korli> JBurton this kind of news lowers our image
[11:35:36] <@mmu_man> hmm 1 should be the inode of teh root directory of a fs
[11:35:39] <JBurton> yeah, Korli true
[11:35:45] <@Korli> JBurton and we don't ask for this
[11:35:47] <@mmu_man> but it's not necessarily true
[11:35:59] <@mmu_man> hmm some fs func might tell that
[11:36:09] <JBurton> get_ref_for_path()
[11:36:13] <JBurton> yeah, it's in Entry.h
[11:36:24] <JBurton> the reverse isn't there, though
[11:36:28] <@Korli> JBurton the only good think is people know something is done
[11:36:37] <@mmu_man> yeah struct fs_info::root
[11:36:39] <JBurton> yeah
[11:36:41] <@Korli> think => thing
[11:37:02] <JBurton> well I think we should publish a regular newsletter
[11:37:06] <JBurton> as we used to do in the past
[11:37:11] <@mmu_man> so I can make an entry_ref {dev, fsi.root, "."};
[11:37:25] <@mmu_man> but then I need something to use it
[11:37:33] <JBurton> something ?
[11:38:00] <JBurton> mmu_man did you read what I wrote above about entry_ref living in libbe or libroot ?
[11:38:32] <JBurton> Korli at least we could say "ok, we did this and this" in the newsletter
[11:38:40] <JBurton> if we did something that month
[11:38:41] <JBurton> :P
[11:38:52] <@Korli> JBurton actually yeah
[11:39:10] <@mmu_man> no idea
[11:39:11] <@Korli> you're talking of the current state then
[11:39:23] <JBurton> Korli sort of
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[11:39:38] <@Korli> JBurton maybe a christmas newsletter ...
[11:39:42] <JBurton> yep
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[11:42:13] <JBurton> mmu_man hmmm btw, do you think that the entry_ref constructor will be called if you initialize it like that ?
[11:42:24] <JBurton> and, more important... does it matter ? :)
[11:42:34] <@mmu_man> bbl
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[11:49:27] <JBurton_> re
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[11:50:35] <JBurton> damn the sh**ty computer locked up
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[12:00:03] <JBurton> grr re again
[12:01:56] <JBurton> so what happened while I was away ?
[12:01:59] <JBurton> haiku released ? :P
[12:02:14] <@Korli> JBurton i noticed Be had added a Menlo Park timezone entry, should we do it too ? :)
[12:02:23] <@Korli> lunch
[12:02:36] <JBurton> lol
[12:02:41] <JBurton> dunno, Korli :P
[12:05:46] <@mmu_man> sure
[12:06:01] <@mmu_man> it's of historical interest :)
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[12:46:01] <w-ber> has there been any movement towards porting Boinc to BeOS?
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[12:46:28] <@mmu_man> what's ?
[12:46:38] <w-ber> http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu
[12:47:14] <w-ber> I tried briefly compiling it, but seems like it uses POSIX threads
[12:57:06] <@mmu_man> well there are several attempts as a pthread lib but I donh't know which is the less buggy one
[13:00:00] <w-ber> pthreads in BeOS? Sounds... icky
[13:00:19] <@mmu_man> why not
[13:00:41] <@mmu_man> you can also add beos code for threading in boinc
[13:04:40] <w-ber> my idea exactly
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[13:06:49] <Dr3w> Hello
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[14:00:57] <@mmu_man> http://linuxfr.org/2004/11/22/17734.html 404 ??
[14:03:04] <eNGIMa> yep, 404
[14:03:43] <@Korli> mmu_man how to find_directory the boot volume ?
[14:03:49] <@Korli> dev_t = 0 ?
[14:05:03] <@mmu_man> B_COMMON_BOOT_DIRECTORY, dev=0
[14:05:26] <@mmu_man> hmm not that one
[14:05:56] <@mmu_man> well only dano has a constant for B_BOOT_VOLUME
[14:06:31] <@Korli> ok thanks
[14:06:52] <@mmu_man> hmm dev = -1 even
[14:07:02] <@mmu_man> 07:02 <@mmu_man>	0 is rootfs :)
[14:07:09] <@Korli> okkk
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[14:13:42] <JBurton> re
[14:14:12] <JBurton> so what's new ?
[14:14:21] <bs0> hey
[14:14:50] <bs0> can anyone write a gui program for my freind: after closing it, it must be deleted by itseld
[14:14:55] <bs0> *itself
[14:15:03] <bs0> *friend
[14:16:15] <@mmu_man> int main(int argc, char **argv) { BApplication app(...); app.Run(); // the app's job...
[14:16:24] <@mmu_man> unlink(argv[0]);
[14:16:27] <@mmu_man> return 0; }
[14:16:44] <slaad> I see no GUI, mmu_man! :P
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[14:17:19] <@mmu_man> slaad look at Deskbar, there is something on :)
[14:17:23] <@mmu_man> that's a gui :)
[14:17:35] <slaad> Touche/
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[14:20:28] <@mmu_man> some very light snowing here
[14:20:30] <@mmu_man> brrrr
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[14:25:35] <w-ber> 5:35 <w-ber>	5 cm here
[14:27:11] <@mmu_man> nothing down, just some flakes dancing





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