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[18:30:04] <\mm> hi :)
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[19:10:19] <@mmu_man> BePage
[19:10:21] <@mmu_man> here ?
[19:10:33] <@mmu_man> commited therading support on cvs, wanna have a try ?
[19:10:55] <@mmu_man> ./configure  --enable-mp3lame --enable-shared --disable-audio-beos --disable-ffserver --disable-vhook
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[19:11:16] <NathanW> mmu_man: what code is this?
[19:13:03] <@AndrewBachmann> ffmpeg
[19:13:17] <NathanW> ah, ok
[19:13:49] <@mmu_man> NathanW that's my current configure args for ffmpeg
[19:13:58] <@mmu_man> I added threading support in beos
[19:17:08] <@mmu_man> but it seems the codecs don't ilke that
[19:17:40] <@mmu_man> I'll try to add some threadsafety to avcodec_open and friends, because everyone is complaining, but nobody fixes it :)
[19:18:37] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/tools/translation/tgainfo/tgainfo.cpp: address compiler warnings
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[19:19:39] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/tools/translation/pnginfo/pnginfo.cpp: address compiler warnings
[19:23:12] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/tools/translation/bmpinfo/bmpinfo.cpp: address compiler warnings
[19:25:27] <w-ber> has there been any effort at porting Boinc to BeOS?
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[19:27:54] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/apps/bin/keymap/Keymap.cpp: address compiler warning
[19:29:39] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/tests/servers/input/inputdevice/main.cpp: address compiler warnings
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[19:33:56] <NathanW> Having fun, AndrewBachmann? :P
[19:34:22] <@AndrewBachmann> eh
[19:38:11] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/tests/kits/support/bblockcache/ (BlockCacheConcurrencyTest.cpp BlockCacheExerciseTest.cpp): address compiler warnings
[19:42:39] <@AndrewBachmann> lots of pointless warnings means that we don't see the ones that matter
[19:43:45] <NathanW> Yep
[19:44:03] <NathanW> It's just that, apparently unlike you, everyone else is way too lazy to do anything about them
[19:44:06] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/tests/kits/support/ (4 files in 2 dirs): address compiler warnings
[19:44:22] <@AndrewBachmann> eh, I go on build binges sometimes
[19:44:30] <@AndrewBachmann> good for the ego, lots of small easy to solve problems
[19:44:58] <NathanW> heh
[19:45:02] <BePage> binges?
[19:46:44] <@AndrewBachmann> binges.
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[19:50:47] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/tests/kits/net/netperf/Jamfile: extract common files and build once, suppress warnings for imported code
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[19:58:37] <matricks> roar
[19:59:04] <dipp> mjau..
[19:59:22] * matricks still doesn't get BeOS working :((
[19:59:26] <dipp> :<
[19:59:53] <NathanW> what hardware?
[20:00:07] <matricks> NathanW: Pundit-R
[20:00:18] <matricks> w8 for specs
[20:00:18] <NathanW> I don't know what that is
[20:00:24] <NathanW> ok
[20:00:24] <NathanW> thanks
[20:00:34] <NathanW> Could you also be more specific about what isn't working?
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[20:01:02] <CIA-6> laplace * current/src/add-ons/print/drivers/pcl6/PCL6Cap.cpp: Printer supports copy command.
[20:01:24] <matricks> http://se.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=Pundit-R&langs=19
[20:01:28] <matricks> Pundit-R specs
[20:01:34] <matricks> with P4 Celeron D
[20:01:38] <matricks> 256mb ram
[20:01:51] <matricks> normal ata 120gib disk
[20:02:12] <matricks> doesn't get futher than the boot screen (installation)
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[20:02:32] <NathanW> really?
[20:02:33] <NathanW> weird
[20:02:34] <matricks> console debug stops after IDE init (successful).. sysinit1: 27 is the last line
[20:02:44] <NathanW> huh
[20:03:39] <matricks> I think it's chipset releated.. but I dunno
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[20:03:57] <CIA-6> zooey * buildtools/gcc/libstdc++/std/bastring.h: - added clear()-method that was missing from basic_string.
[20:04:22] <matricks> geist: hey!, you have done some experiments building haiku on linux right?
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[20:37:12] <w-ber> how do I get all the IP addresses of the BeOS R5 box in either C or C++ code?
[20:42:10] <@mmu_man> in BONE or Haiku you'd use som ioctl(SIOCGIFCONF)
[20:42:15] <@mmu_man> on a socket
[20:42:26] <@mmu_man> but that wno't work in net_server
[20:42:31] <@Dr_Evil> for (i = 0; i < 256; i++) for (j = 0; j < 256; j++) for (k = 0; k < 256; k++) for li = 0; l < 256; l++)  printf("%d.%d.%d.%d\n", i,j,k,l);
[20:42:42] <@Dr_Evil> gives you all the IP adresses
[20:42:58] <@mmu_man> LOL :)
[20:43:09] <@mmu_man> though 255.255.255.255 isn't a valid one
[20:43:14] <@mmu_man> and others either :p
[20:43:52] <w-ber> :(
[20:44:10] <w-ber> all the Unices have net/if.h
[20:44:51] <@mmu_man> so does BONE
[20:45:00] <@mmu_man> right that'd work too, but not in net_server
[20:45:06] <w-ber> I guessed as much
[20:45:46] <@mmu_man> ask AndrewBachmann he played with net_server
[20:46:02] <w-ber> right
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[21:07:27] <Schutti> re
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[21:18:27] <@Dr_Evil> fuck
[21:18:29] <@Dr_Evil> ERN 'cat'[557]: EEPROM 00: 09 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
[21:18:30] <@Dr_Evil> KERN 'cat'[557]: EEPROM 08: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
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[21:24:47] <@Dr_Evil> ooops, I didn't send an ack after the first byte
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[21:27:27] <Karat3> hi
[21:27:54] <Karat3> how long will it take to complete haiku for R1 ?
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[21:48:42] <@AndrewBachmann> Karat3 some parts are already complete
[21:50:28] <NathanW> Dr_Evil: has anyone written a video window media addon yet?
[21:50:47] <@Dr_Evil> don't know
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[21:56:41] <AlternativEnde> Hi Guys
[21:56:50] <AlternativEnde> someone here ?
[21:56:56] <NathanW> Because I have one that almost works now
[21:56:58] <NathanW> hi AlternativEnde
[21:57:06] <AlternativEnde> I would like to know how ti use MlNet ?
[21:57:10] <NathanW> And I wanted to know if you were interestred in having it
[21:57:30] <@Dr_Evil> I think we are
[21:57:43] <@Dr_Evil> brb, testing a driver
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[21:57:48] <@AndrewBachmann> yes NathanW
[21:57:54] <@AndrewBachmann> did you put in overlay support?
[21:57:55] <jonaskirilla> AlternativEnde: what's MINet?
[21:57:57] <NathanW> yep
[21:57:59] <AlternativEnde> :)
[21:58:04] <@AndrewBachmann> where from NathanW?
[21:58:07] <@AndrewBachmann> nplay?
[21:58:08] <NathanW> And some other nice things
[21:58:09] <NathanW> no
[21:58:13] <@AndrewBachmann> vlc?
[21:58:17] <NathanW> I pulled the code out of CodyCam :P
[21:58:18] <AlternativEnde> AlternativEnde>	A sharing tool I wanna download some BitTorrent stuff, but I want to surf by the way and
[21:58:23] <@AndrewBachmann> interesting
[21:58:26] <AlternativEnde> not uploading everything I have got
[21:58:29] <@AndrewBachmann> we should compare it to nplay then
[21:58:29] <NathanW> And added in overlay by hand
[21:58:39] <NathanW> It still has some bugs I need to work out
[21:58:55] <NathanW> It works perfectly from live sources
[21:59:06] <NathanW> BUt movie playback is being weird
[21:59:12] <jonaskirilla> AlternativEnde: don't use filesharing, it's a bad for your computer.. :-]
[21:59:30] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/tests/kits/app/bpropertyinfo/PropertyTestcase.cpp: address compiler warnings
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[22:00:38] <AlternativEnde> sad
[22:00:43] <AlternativEnde> nobody is using this app
[22:00:53] <NathanW> I used it for a while
[22:01:25] <AlternativEnde> How to start the GUI ?
[22:01:31] <NathanW> YOu sue Firefox
[22:01:41] <AlternativEnde> ??
[22:01:44] <NathanW> COnnect to http://127.0.0.1:4001, I think
[22:01:51] <NathanW> I forget the exact port
[22:01:55] <NathanW> Maybe 8001?
[22:01:59] <NathanW> It says in the docs somewhere
[22:02:06] <NathanW> [use] Firefox
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[22:02:20] <NathanW> Dr_Evil: what driver are you testing?
[22:02:51] <jonaskirilla> ouch.. http apps.. I hate those
[22:03:07] <@Dr_Evil> err, top secret
[22:03:09] <NathanW> yeah, me too
[22:03:11] <NathanW> heh
[22:03:24] <AlternativEnde> Nathan didnt work
[22:03:32] <NathanW> look in the docs for the port number
[22:03:37] <NathanW> I forget what it is
[22:03:52] <CIA-6> shatty * current/src/tests/kits/app/bmessagerunner/GetInfoTester.cpp: address compiler warnings
[22:03:59] <AlternativEnde> but I dont wwant to run it over Firefox, because it is so instable
[22:04:13] <NathanW> Firefox is very stable
[22:04:23] <NathanW> What version are you using?
[22:04:26] <AlternativEnde> But it crashes a lot in Neo
[22:04:31] <AlternativEnde> even neo does :)
[22:04:35] <NathanW> What version are you using?
[22:04:41] <AlternativEnde> 1.00PR I think
[22:04:51] <NathanW> Try the 1.0 final release
[22:05:16] <NathanW> http://beosland.free.fr/archives/mozilla/MozillaFirefox-10-d4-upd-bone.pkg
[22:06:29] <Koki> AlternativEnde: Firefox is very stable on my Neo installation.
[22:06:50] <AlternativEnde> its so ugly
[22:06:53] <AlternativEnde> Neo itself I mean
[22:07:09] <NathanW> I don't use Zeta myself
[22:07:09] <AlternativEnde> I hope the SP will work it out a little bit
[22:07:16] <AlternativEnde> be happy about it
[22:07:22] <AlternativEnde> in this version
[22:07:41] <@AndrewBachmann> yay time for complete rebuild
[22:08:19] <Koki> what's ugly about it AlternativEnde? Can you be more specific?
[22:09:03] <Karat3> hm
[22:10:00] <Karat3> so when will there be a complete lgpl openbeos?
[22:10:38] <@AndrewBachmann> openbeos is not lgpl
[22:10:44] <@AndrewBachmann> not openbeos anymore either :-)
[22:10:44] <Karat3> gpl?
[22:10:49] <@AndrewBachmann> haiku is mit/freebsd
[22:10:53] <Karat3> ah
[22:10:58] <Karat3> even better
[22:11:01] <@AndrewBachmann> of course :-)
[22:11:04] <@mmu_man> what's -upd ?
[22:11:05] <Karat3> so when will it release?
[22:11:20] <AlternativEnde> Koki
[22:11:26] <AlternativEnde> it is so unstable
[22:11:28] <AlternativEnde> slowly
[22:11:32] <AlternativEnde> nothing works really fine
[22:11:37] <AlternativEnde> Jukebox, Champion
[22:11:40] <AlternativEnde> even nothing
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[22:12:22] <@AndrewBachmann> hey anybody remember the noise for "redirect both stdout and stderr to this file?"
[22:12:38] <jonaskirilla> heh
[22:12:53] <jonaskirilla> &2> or something
[22:12:57] <jonaskirilla> I never recall
[22:13:05] <Karat3> so?
[22:13:09] <Karat3> so when will it release?
[22:13:44] <Koki> hmmm... AlternativeEnde, I use Zeta Neo and I do not have stability problems. come over to #zeta-talk and maybe I can help.
[22:14:13] <@AndrewBachmann> Karat3 when it's ready
[22:14:27] <Karat3> are you developing on it?
[22:14:54] <@AndrewBachmann> yes
[22:14:59] <Karat3> what?
[22:15:32] <@AndrewBachmann> jonaskirilla I just used the terminal logging instead
[22:15:38] <AnEvilYak> AndrewBachmann: 2>&1
[22:15:38] <@AndrewBachmann> :-)
[22:15:53] <@AndrewBachmann> ah I see AnEvilYak, I always want to write 1&2> for some reason
[22:15:55] <matricks> how much kernel changes are there in Zeta?
[22:15:58] <jonaskirilla> 2>&1 !  of course...
[22:16:08] <AnEvilYak> cmd > file 2>&1 iirc
[22:17:39] <jonaskirilla> not  cmd 2>&1 file ?
[22:17:51] <AnEvilYak> afaik not if you want both
[22:17:57] <AnEvilYak> I might be wrong though
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[22:18:56] <@mmu_man> cmd > file 2>&1
[22:19:10] <@mmu_man> anyone compiled openssl here ?
[22:19:18] <@mmu_man> is thread support enabled by default in beos ?
[22:19:23] <@mmu_man> is it needed ? :)
[22:21:33] <jonaskirilla> bourne is weird
[22:21:47] <@mmu_man> logical
[22:21:57] <@mmu_man> >	> file = redirect stdout to file
[22:22:02] <jonaskirilla> bourne to be wild
[22:22:07] <@mmu_man> 2>&1 redirect stderr to stdout
[22:22:12] <jonaskirilla> yeah, that part is ok
[22:22:38] <@mmu_man> you can do 2>file2 to get stderr separately
[22:23:34] <jonaskirilla> two separate files?
[22:23:41] <jonaskirilla> that's nice
[22:23:58] <@AndrewBachmann> well, seems nice except you can't line up the stdout with stderr messages :-)
[22:24:44] <Karat3> AndrewBachmann: what are you developing
[22:24:57] <@AndrewBachmann> I work in various places
[22:25:03] <@AndrewBachmann> on what's needed :-)
[22:25:10] <@mmu_man> gahhh for once I'd like to find a diff from 0.9.7d to 0.9.7e but there isn't any
[22:25:30] <@mmu_man> Karat3 embedding Amigas into rovers to go to mars
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[22:25:46] <@mmu_man> cause the PCs were not very reliable
[22:25:49] <jonaskirilla> AndrewBachmann: perhaps if you redirect to two pipes, from which two readers read and add timestamps.. or something.. :]
[22:26:57] <@AndrewBachmann> and then use a program to combine them? :-)
[22:27:25] <jonaskirilla> yah
[22:27:40] <jonaskirilla> great
[22:28:43] <@mmu_man> pipes are not easy to use from scripts
[22:28:52] <@mmu_man> they tend to close when you won't expect them to
[22:28:55] <@mmu_man> at least under R5
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[22:54:02] <Methe> 59 peeps here
[22:54:05] <Methe> new record !!!!!!
[22:54:17] <Methe> :DD
[22:54:35] <[Beta]> you mean 62
[22:54:41] <[Beta]> ;)
[22:54:52] <Methe> why 62 ?
[22:55:02] <[Beta]> Konrad, Atomo & illiss just left..
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[22:55:49] <Methe> yup
[22:55:50] <Methe> :DD
[22:55:56] <Methe> 62. nice
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