October 18, 2018 
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October 18, 2018 [00:43:46] *** Dimik <Dimik!~Dimik@ool-2f1499e1.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #eclipse[01:32:42] *** thc202 <thc202!~thc202@unaffiliated/thc202> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[02:07:49] *** nejni-marji <nejni-marji!~nejni-mar@unaffiliated/nejni-marji> has joined #eclipse[02:54:01] *** ferdna <ferdna!~ferdna@68-73-71-246.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net> has joined #eclipse[03:43:18] *** Dimik <Dimik!~Dimik@ool-2f1499e1.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[04:16:24] *** cpe_ <cpe_!~cpe@unaffiliated/cpe> has joined #eclipse[04:19:54] *** cpe <cpe!~cpe@unaffiliated/cpe> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[04:19:54] *** cpe_ is now known as cpe[04:35:42] *** computeiro <computeiro!~computeir@189.15.142.7> has joined #eclipse[04:35:54] <computeiro> How to configure Ivy Repositories in Eclipse?[04:36:18] <computeiro> I would like to add a Ivy repository but the configuration into a plugin jar[04:52:01] *** Anja_ 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<malveo!~Thunderbi@5.90.47.10> has joined #eclipse[10:06:58] *** acebrianjuan <acebrianjuan!~acebrianj@216.red-213-96-1.staticip.rima-tde.net> has joined #eclipse[10:07:02] <acebrianjuan> Hi all[10:07:15] <acebrianjuan> I am trying to install CDT in Eclipse Photon[10:08:07] <acebrianjuan> Via Help > Install New Software...[10:09:02] <acebrianjuan> But I can't find the CDT package[10:12:35] *** b3h3m0th <b3h3m0th!uid26288@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dtmmhviseouhcrnq> has joined #eclipse[10:22:55] *** malveo <malveo!~Thunderbi@5.90.47.10> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[10:31:02] <acebrianjuan> Ok, I found the solution[10:31:04] <acebrianjuan> The CDT can either be installed as part of the Eclipse C/C++ IDE packaged zip file or installed into an existing Eclipse using the "Install New Software..." dialog and entering the p2 repository URLs listed below.[10:31:20] <acebrianjuan> http://download.eclipse.org/tools/cdt/releases/9.5[10:38:59] *** acebrianjuan <acebrianjuan!~acebrianj@216.red-213-96-1.staticip.rima-tde.net> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)[11:06:21] *** Revan- <Revan-!~wesley@host-69-144-17-114.static.bresnan.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[11:11:53] *** Revan- <Revan-!~wesley@209.206.247.4> has joined #eclipse[11:25:01] *** malveo <malveo!~Thunderbi@host86-182-static.123-81-b.business.telecomitalia.it> has joined #eclipse[11:29:13] *** malveo <malveo!~Thunderbi@host86-182-static.123-81-b.business.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[12:06:57] <coraxx> how do I develop with JavaSE-1.8 in eclipse while having openjdk-11-jdk installed ... just setting it as the System Library doesn't seem to work ?[12:08:41] <mbooth> coraxx: You can change your projects execution environment and compiler compliance level in the properties[12:10:52] <coraxx> mbooth: changed "Java Compiler" to JavaSE-1.8 ... however still not working *sniff*[12:11:25] <mbooth> coraxx: What setting did you change, and what does "not working" mean?[12:13:27] <coraxx> mbooth: "not working" in this case means --> the packages omitted in Java JDK 9 and above does not become automatic included like the were in version 8, just because I change the execution enviroment or the System Library to JavaSE-1.8[12:14:03] <coraxx> mbooth: ...and is therefore an "incomplete" Java 8 jdk platform.[12:14:11] <mbooth> coraxx: Well, sounds like you did not actually change the execution environment[12:14:44] <mbooth> coraxx: In project properties: "Java Build Path" -> "Libraries" -> "JRE System Library" -> "Edit" -> Choose an execution environment[12:14:51] <mbooth> Is this what you did?[12:15:31] <coraxx> mbooth: (I changed "Java Compiler", "System Library" )[12:15:49] <coraxx> mbooth: yes that I did ...that was the first move.[12:16:38] <coraxx> (..and what I refer to as System Library)[12:17:16] <mbooth> coraxx: What do you mean by that? You have to use the same terminology as everyone else, or we will not understand you[12:18:45] <coraxx> mbooth: JRE System Library <-- is it the right terminology ? ... that is what I changed to JavaSE-1.8[12:19:38] <mbooth> coraxx: And you also set compiler compliance level to 1.8 or set from execution environment?[12:19:46] <coraxx> mbooth: yes[12:19:58] <mbooth> Then it should work.[12:20:06] <mbooth> What exactly is not working?[12:22:21] <coraxx> mbooth: I'm writing a simple java standalone application that initiates a WebService Endpoint .... so I'm using the packages javax.xml.ws.* and javax.jws.* which is included in the JavaSE-1.8, but no longer a part of Java SE 10[12:22:49] <coraxx> ...so it will not compile.[12:23:05] <mbooth> coraxx: Enterprise Edition packages were removed in Java 11. You should really use EE deps from maven.[12:24:02] *** Anja_ <Anja_!~Anja@222-152-223-126-adsl.sparkbb.co.nz> has joined #eclipse[12:24:13] <coraxx> mbooth: do you have a (very) easyway for me to get the correct packages (from maven) without turning my project into a "maven-project" ?[12:24:56] <mbooth> coraxx: The real question is why not use a dependency management system like maven gradle or ivy?[12:25:08] <mbooth> Makes life a lot easier ;-)[12:25:23] *** Anja_ <Anja_!~Anja@222-152-223-126-adsl.sparkbb.co.nz> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[12:25:25] <coraxx> mbooth: I'm not ready to use them for this project.[12:25:38] <mbooth> But if you don't want an easy life, you can still just download the jars from maven central[12:25:53] *** Anja_ <Anja_!~Anja@222-152-223-126-adsl.sparkbb.co.nz> has joined #eclipse[12:26:16] <coraxx> mbooth: can't it be done through eclipse ...make it get them and place them in the projects lib-folder ?[12:26:43] <mbooth> coraxx: The maven tooling does this[12:27:26] <coraxx> mbooth: ok ..interesting ... how ? ...or rather how do I do that ?[12:27:39] *** ylp <ylp!~ylp@2a01:e35:8b61:df20:488b:f44d:8a30:5070> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[12:27:50] <coraxx> mbooth: tried once without success.[12:28:03] <coraxx> mbooth: I must be doing something wrong[12:28:06] <mbooth> coraxx: You specify maven coordinates, it downloads into your local maven repo and then maven adds the deps to your classpath at build and runtime[12:28:18] <mbooth> coraxx: But you said you don't want to use it?[12:28:52] <mbooth> coraxx: Just download it manually if want, like any other dep you have[12:28:58] <coraxx> mbooth: I just didn't want to turn the project into a "maven-project" where it gets build from a POM file[12:29:39] <coraxx> mbooth: I dont mind execution maven commands to include files to my lib-folder[12:29:39] <mbooth> coraxx: For example, here is the javax.jws API jar: https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/javax.jws/javax.jws-api/1.1[12:30:17] <mbooth> coraxx: If you are executing maven commands, you might as well spend five minutes creating a pom.xml file to make a true maven project ;-)[12:33:37] <furrymcgee> maven download everything in home folder. how do you tell maven to use system libraries of the operation system?[12:33:52] <coraxx> mbooth: you a very kind to give me the link ... but if I didn't have you to ask, how would I know what package to download ? (downloaded several javax-jws packages without success)[12:34:44] <coraxx> mbooth: (and do you also now the link to the package for javax.xml.ws ?)[12:35:58] <mbooth> coraxx: I just searched for it on maven central and picked the glassfish one, because that's favourite EE provider. Which implementation to use is totally up to you...[12:37:40] <mbooth> furrymcgee: Which operating system?[12:38:34] <furrymcgee> gnu/linux[12:39:54] <mbooth> furrymcgee: Right, but which?[12:41:12] <furrymcgee> one of the big three[12:42:00] <coraxx> mbooth: damn ...still not working ... at run-time is says "Provider com.sun.xml.ws.spi.ProviderImpl not found", which is an error because something is missing ... this application compiles on a computer with the JavaSE-1.8 installed on it.[12:42:28] <mbooth> coraxx: I gave you a link the API jar, now you need the implementation jar...[12:43:40] <mbooth> furrymcgee: Okay, it's a secret. Different linuxes do it differently. I'm not going to explain about a distro you might not care about, it's a waste of both our time ;-)[12:44:47] <coraxx> mbooth: sounds like something I should know ... however not sure of what to search for on mvnrepository.com ... "javax.jws impl" doesn't give much ... do you have a hint for me ;-) ?[12:46:17] <coraxx> mbooth: I had hoped for a complete package from the internet with ALL missing JAR files in java 11[12:46:30] <furrymcgee> my eclipse environment is supposed to work independent of operation system[12:46:46] <mbooth> coraxx: Maybe search for the package you are missing? Like com.sun.xml.ws[12:47:59] <mbooth> furrymcgee: Sure, but the layout of system-installed dependencies on disk is (shocking, I know!) system-dependent.[12:48:46] <mbooth> coraxx: Oh look, it's the first result! ;-) https://mvnrepository.com/search?q=com.sun.xml.ws[12:48:48] <coraxx> mbooth: that I did the last time ... that will not help ... I read online that because of missing file/components the system fallsback on finding that particular class.[12:49:13] <furrymcgee> how do you handle this with maven?[12:49:40] <mbooth> furrymcgee: Depends on which linux you are using.[12:51:04] <furrymcgee> why?[12:52:31] *** malveo <malveo!~Thunderbi@185.212.170.101> has joined #eclipse[12:52:35] <coraxx> mbooth: including the jaxws RunTime give this --> "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/xml/bind/JAXBException"[12:53:14] <mbooth> coraxx: Now you need the javax.xml.bind API... I'm not doing your work for you :-p[12:53:14] <furrymcgee> there are variables like JAVA_HOME to deal with this kind of stuff[12:54:36] <mbooth> furrymcgee: So wait, you want java libraries or the jdk?[12:55:17] <mbooth> furrymcgee: You said you wanted to use the system install java libraries that maven would otherwise download, no?[12:55:48] <coraxx> mbooth: I know ;-) .... I'm already ahead of you ... so I included the JaxB API ....but then I got "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError"[12:55:59] <mbooth> furrymcgee: If you want system independence then let it continue to download them from the internet.[12:56:10] <coraxx> mbooth: ...and that is how far I got the last time.[12:56:44] <mbooth> furrymcgee: If you want to use system installed java libs, then it differs from system to system because different linuxes install them differently.[12:58:36] <furrymcgee> yes the system installed maven should manage this[12:59:43] <mbooth> furrymcgee: Yes. But it's different on different platforms. I'm not sure how else I can put this...[13:00:17] <mbooth> furrymcgee: For example, on Fedora/RHEL you need to use the xmvn extension to resolve system dependencies offline (xmvn -o)[13:00:28] <mbooth> furrymcgee: But this is not present on other systems[13:00:59] <mbooth> furrymcgee: You're all like "I want help, but won't tell you the necessary info to help me"[13:02:53] <mbooth> furrymcgee: But you won't tell me what linux you are on, so I can't help you further :-/[13:07:08] <furrymcgee> tools and libraries should work no matter what[13:10:52] *** gareppa <gareppa!~gareppa@unaffiliated/gareppa> has joined #eclipse[13:16:52] *** gareppa <gareppa!~gareppa@unaffiliated/gareppa> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[13:21:13] <coraxx> mbooth: IT WORKS !!!![13:22:02] <coraxx> mbooth: thank you so much for your time ... this is the link that worked for me http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/320[13:22:53] <coraxx> mbooth: the link did not include the jws-api ... that I got from maven ... the rest is included in the links on the page.[13:26:08] <mbooth> furrymcgee: Well, you need to talk to the distros about that. This is not a linux channel. ;-)[13:27:06] <mbooth> coraxx: Congrats -- FWIW, one of the great benefits of maven et al is not having to mess around so much with dependencies like this.[13:27:55] <furrymcgee> ant is more likely what i want i guess[13:30:21] *** YuGiOhJCJ <YuGiOhJCJ!~YuGiOhJCJ@gateway/tor-sasl/yugiohjcj> has joined #eclipse[13:32:56] <furrymcgee> if maven downloaded libraries to home folder. can this folder used as repository for other clienat?[13:33:11] <furrymcgee> clients[13:34:43] <mbooth> Yes[13:35:38] <mbooth> furrymcgee: You can tell maven to use a arbitrary location as a maven repo with: -Dmaven.repo.local=/some/path[13:40:04] *** coraxx <coraxx!~mrpagh@mail.8-pm.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[13:42:12] <furrymcgee> is this set to $HOME/.m2 by default?[13:42:26] <mbooth> furrymcgee: Yes[13:46:56] <furrymcgee> ah I would have expected this in a system subdirectory maybe /var/lib rather than a user directory[13:50:50] <mbooth> furrymcgee: Well, users can't write to /var/lib ;-)[13:51:51] <mbooth> And you probably want such a large cache to survive across sessions, so anywhere on a tmpfs is out[13:52:57] <furrymcgee> the installer could create a maven subfolder writable by maven user/group[13:54:16] <furrymcgee> this depends of your distrubtion of course[13:58:37] *** ylp <ylp!~ylp@2a01:e35:8b61:df20:488b:f44d:8a30:5070> has joined #eclipse[14:03:02] <mbooth> furrymcgee: At that point, you'd be better off setting up a nexus instance and cache for the whole organisation[14:21:01] <furrymcgee> this is like managing your own linux distribution[14:32:04] *** b3h3m0th <b3h3m0th!uid26288@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dtmmhviseouhcrnq> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[15:02:52] *** malveo <malveo!~Thunderbi@185.212.170.101> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[15:22:19] *** YuGiOhJCJ <YuGiOhJCJ!~YuGiOhJCJ@gateway/tor-sasl/yugiohjcj> has quit IRC (Quit: YuGiOhJCJ)[15:30:04] *** c3llulardaxius <c3llulardaxius!~thansen@173.55.177.230> has joined #eclipse[15:31:10] *** c3llulardaxius is now known as c3llular[15:36:06] *** ericwill <ericwill!~ericwill@38.104.156.250> has joined #eclipse[15:51:45] *** ericwill <ericwill!~ericwill@38.104.156.250> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:10:58] *** eddieb <eddieb!~Eddie@eddieb.xs4all.nl> has joined #eclipse[16:38:20] <furrymcgee> it seems debian solved my problems with maven[16:38:39] <furrymcgee> there is a package maven-repo-helper[16:39:06] <furrymcgee> dont know about other linux systems[16:48:35] *** ferdna <ferdna!~ferdna@68-73-71-246.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net> has joined #eclipse[16:55:03] *** pitastrudl <pitastrudl!~quassel@unaffiliated/pitastrudl> has quit IRC (Quit: Cya)[16:57:22] *** pitastrudl <pitastrudl!~quassel@unaffiliated/pitastrudl> has joined #eclipse[17:20:44] *** eddieb <eddieb!~Eddie@eddieb.xs4all.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[17:22:37] *** eddieb <eddieb!~Eddie@2001:982:2f86:0:bc7b:5f53:6eea:454f> has joined #eclipse[17:26:02] *** eddieb <eddieb!~Eddie@2001:982:2f86:0:bc7b:5f53:6eea:454f> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:32:04] *** ylp <ylp!~ylp@2a01:e35:8b61:df20:488b:f44d:8a30:5070> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[17:34:23] *** apupier <apupier!~apupier@LFbn-1-7946-49.w90-112.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:37:44] <mbooth> furrymcgee: So you're on Debian! That wasn't so hard, was it? :-D[17:39:45] <furrymcgee> would like to have a solution for redaht as well[17:42:29] <mbooth> I already told you, use the xmvn extension[17:46:57] <furrymcgee> why is it a extension and not built into maven?[17:50:02] <mbooth> furrymcgee: Because RHEL/Fedora use a non standard filesystem layout that cannot be used as a straight maven repo. The xmvn extension adds a resolver that knows how to navigate it.[17:50:25] <mbooth> furrymcgee: If you'd told me you wanted to know RHEL earlier I could have explained this ;-)[17:51:49] <furrymcgee> debian can build xmvn according their filesystem i guess[17:52:31] <mbooth> Well, IIRC the layout on disk for debian-based distros is just like a real maven repo so they had no need for such[17:53:08] <mbooth> Whereas the Fedora Java stack was inherited from the jpackage project[17:53:24] <mbooth> (And RHEL inherits from Fedora)[18:23:01] *** TomTom <TomTom!uid45892@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tlkiphobapecklba> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[18:52:03] *** rcw <rcw!~rcw@128.224.252.2> has joined #eclipse[18:58:20] *** Jybz <Jybz!~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6> has joined #eclipse[19:01:36] *** lone-wolf <lone-wolf!~lone-wolf@181.220.17.2> has joined #eclipse[20:31:05] *** ferdna <ferdna!~ferdna@68-73-71-246.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:44:31] *** eddieb <eddieb!~Eddie@eddieb.xs4all.nl> has joined #eclipse[21:03:48] *** rcw <rcw!~rcw@128.224.252.2> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:06:54] *** malveo <malveo!~Thunderbi@93-33-210-130.ip46.fastwebnet.it> has joined #eclipse[21:09:41] *** malveo1 <malveo1!~Thunderbi@185.230.125.173> has joined #eclipse[21:11:21] *** malveo <malveo!~Thunderbi@93-33-210-130.ip46.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[21:11:21] *** malveo1 is now known as malveo[21:13:14] *** ferdna <ferdna!~ferdna@68-73-71-246.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net> has joined #eclipse[21:14:20] *** Jybz <Jybz!~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:23:12] *** grumble <grumble!~grumble@freenode/staff/grumble> has quit IRC (Quit: Didn't like XP. 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