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[17:35:30] <fraktor> I have several projects in Eclipse, and suddenly I'm not seeing any of the source files. I can see that the files are there if I use a file explorer, but I'm not able to view the code in Eclipse. The weirdest part is that I'm able to run a project properly.
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[18:04:46] <zarzar> are there any more recent plugins like Metrics for analysis of C/C++ projects?
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[18:16:39] <mbooth> zarzar: What kind of analysis are you looking for? Maybe take a look at Linuxtools project for profiling, code coverage, heap analysis, etc: https://eclipse.org/linuxtools/
[18:20:51] <zarzar> hi mbooth thanks i will check there, i am looking for code complexity mainly, i am already using cppcheck and clang for static analysis
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[18:21:36] <zarzar> would be great to get code complexity and maybe some dynamic analysis going as well, like heap and stack usage, memory leaks etc...
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[18:29:27] <zarzar> mbooth: do those tools work for cross compiled programs for embedded linux?
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[18:32:41] <mbooth> zarzar: "Probably"
[18:33:19] <mbooth> I mean you can cross compile with CDT and then Linuxtools support running tools remotely so you check for memory leaks with remote valgrind, for example
[18:33:29] <mbooth> zarzar: https://wiki.eclipse.org/Linux_Tools_Project/Valgrind/User_Guide#Remote_Valgrind
[18:34:25] <zarzar> mbooth: looks like a good option, althought I have read the early valgrind versions were very slow and resource intensive
[18:35:13] <zarzar> mbooth: is code complexity part of the linuxtools project?
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[18:37:57] <mbooth> zarzar: It's mostly call profiling and memory profiling
[18:44:10] <zarzar> mbooth: of course i get an error Missing requirement: Tools Launcher Core 3.3.0.201708010032 (org.eclipse.linuxtools.tools.launch.core 3.3.0.201708010032) requires 'bundle org.eclipse.cdt.core.native 0.0.0' but it could not be found
[18:44:58] <mbooth> zarzar: You are writing C/C++ without CDT installed? :-o
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[18:45:26] <zarzar> i'm just getting set up, i use makefile and c files
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[18:45:55] <zarzar> i avoid using eclipse and IDEs for this very reason, always some dependency
[18:46:46] <mbooth> zarzar: I mean, you didn't download Eclipse for C/C++ developers? That should everything you need
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[18:47:10] <zarzar> no i installed via software center in ubuntu
[18:47:16] <zarzar> no option for c/c++
[18:48:03] <mbooth> zarzar: Oh, the Eclipse packages from Ubuntu repos are extremely old and unmaintained. I'm surprised it actually works for you TBH
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[18:48:44] <zarzar> the miracle of open source
[18:48:46] <mbooth> zarzar: I usually recommend Fedora, because the distro packages are up to date, or downloading from eclipse.org
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[18:49:43] <zarzar> mbooth: this is the problem with the whole open source fiasco, everyone doing things differently, using different systems, no uniformity
[18:50:05] <zarzar> mbooth: that an ophaned projects all over the place
[18:50:13] <zarzar> orphaned***
[18:51:03] <mbooth> zarzar: IMO, Ubuntu should actively unmaintained packages -- we do this in Fedora regularly so while we may have fewer packages, a larger portion of them work out of the box ;-)
[18:51:14] <mbooth> actively cull, I mean
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[18:52:55] <zarzar> so how do i install eclipse c/c++? i'm stuck using ubuntu for now
[18:53:35] <mbooth> zarzar: As I say, usually the only option for Ubuntu is to download it from eclipse.org: https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/
[18:55:57] <zarzar> now how do i know that version will integrate with armhf cross compiler toolchain?
[18:58:33] <mbooth> What makes you think it won't?
[18:59:29] <zarzar> mbooth: because there's always some surprise issue in my experience, usually that eclipse is ahead of the cross tools or toolchain
[18:59:29] <mbooth> You can add whatever toolchain you like
[18:59:44] <zarzar> mbooth: ok
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[19:01:05] <zarzar> mbooth: should I do anythng extra for install? or just extract and run?
[19:01:21] <mbooth> Just extract and run
[19:02:23] <zarzar> mbooth: should I get a label not foudn error?
[19:02:40] <zarzar> mbooth: Could not create the view: org.eclipse.team.ccvs.ui.RepositoriesView
[19:03:21] <zarzar> mbooth: Could not create the view: org.eclipse.ant.ui.views.AntView
[19:05:12] <mbooth> zarzar: Ah it's trying to read in config from the old Eclipse you were using before -- You can try "rm -rf ~/.eclipse" to blow away config from the old Eclipse you were using before and/or starting a new workspace
[19:09:07] <zarzar> mbooth: ok i deleted all and reextracted, deleted old workspace from archaic version that ubuntu installed
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[19:20:30] <zarzar> mbooth: do you know if there is an irc for linux-tools?
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[19:21:27] <zarzar> mbooth: there are too many ambiguous options in the list, some seem to be related but it is not evident
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[19:32:47] <zarzar> mbooth: the valgrind install in the user guide says i need to install valgrind seperately also
[19:34:17] <mbooth> zarzar: Yes, the Eclipse plugins provide integration with valgrind but do not provide valgrind itself
[19:34:36] <mbooth> Ubuntu should have valgrind already
[19:36:27] <zarzar> mbooth: a current version or old version? the install mentions 3.3.0
[19:37:01] <mbooth> zarzar: The install guide says "valgrind-3.3.0 (or later)"
[19:37:56] <zarzar> mbooth: ok installed 3.11.0 via apt get
[19:39:06] <zarzar> mbooth: are you on eclipse-linux also?
[19:40:01] <mbooth> Yes
[19:40:21] <zarzar> mbooth: #4 here http://wiki.eclipse.org/Linux_Tools_Project/PluginInstallHelp several items seem to be important but i am not sure
[19:40:58] <zarzar> like profile framework and profile framework remote capabilities
[19:42:14] <mbooth> zarzar: Just choose the items that look interesting to you, dependencies will be resolved for you :-)
[19:43:12] <zarzar> mbooth: for example: Profile Framework details: Plugins common to profiling tools.
[19:44:02] <zarzar> I can;t find info about it on the site
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[19:45:32] <mbooth> zarzar: Yes -- I am saying don't think too hard about it ;-) the profiling framework is some common tooling required by a bunch of the plugins, it will be installed if chosen explicitly by you or if required by something else you choose.
[19:46:21] <zarzar> mbooth: ok
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[19:48:05] <zarzar> mbooth: is oprofile for kernel profiling only?
[19:48:53] <mbooth> zarzar: I think you can do system-wide profiling with it
[19:49:37] <mbooth> zarzar: I think perf is the kernel one
[19:50:14] <zarzar> mbooth: it is described as a kernel driver, i'm not doing any kernel work, so i don't want to install anything or change the kernel
[19:50:31] <zarzar> mbooth: i am guessing i do not want this
[19:54:27] <mbooth> zarzar: It's totally up to you -- install everything and only use what you need, or install stuff as you develop the need
[19:54:57] <mbooth> TBH, I only ever used gprof and gcov in my ISV days
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[20:00:05] <zarzar> mbooth: There is something listed called Dataviewers for Linux Tools, I can't find info about it either
[20:05:29] <mbooth> zarzar: IIRC that plugin contains some graphical charts used by some of the profiling tools
[20:07:17] <mbooth> rgrunber: ^ Maybe some of the low-level or shared components shouldn't be shown in the p2 repo category :-)
[20:08:54] <rgrunber> hmm yeah.. just the tools themselves..
[20:14:05] <zarzar> mbooth: seems like a rough road if someone just wants code complexity analysis
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[20:14:28] <mattfly> hi
[20:14:29] <Arbalest> Welcome! If you have a question, just ask, or take a look at our FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ :) Try typing ~faq to see more FAQs! If you have errors or logs to show, see ~pastebin. If you have screenshots to share, see ~image. You need to describe your problem in detail,so please provide some ~info about your setup. Don't ask to ask, just ask. You might also want to try http://mattermost.eclipse.org
[20:14:43] <mattfly> my problem is too much ram consuming
[20:14:59] <mbooth> zarzar: Well, as I say Linuxtools is mostly profiling tools and some other tools specific for Linux users
[20:15:07] <mattfly> eclipse starts taking 20% of my ram then takes 50 or 60% and my system freezes
[20:16:05] <mattfly> im on linux
[20:16:07] <mattfly> ubuntu
[20:16:18] <mattfly> using oxigen
[20:16:19] <mbooth> zarzar: For most people just downloading Eclipse for C/C++ devs covers most use cases (coverage, profiling and heap analysis)
[20:16:22] <zarzar> mbooth: when you say "Linux users" do you mean linux users or linux kernel/driver developers?
[20:16:52] <nitind> there's a whole middleground there.
[20:17:10] <mbooth> zarzar: In general, "people who write software and target Linux as a platform"
[20:18:35] <zarzar> mbooth: ok, just making sure i was understanding the use of these tools
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[20:30:50] <zarzar> mbooth: autotools is on the web site but not listed as an option during install
[20:31:57] <mbooth> zarzar: If you downloaded the Eclipse for C/C++ devs, you should already have autotools support
[20:32:18] <mbooth> (But it is a feature of CDT, not Linuxtools project)
[20:32:27] <zarzar> oh ok
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[20:34:32] <zarzar> mbooth: does this have the tools installed already? https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/epp/downloads/release/oxygen/R/eclipse-cpp-oxygen-R-win32-x86_64.zip
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[20:37:42] <zarzar> mbooth: wrong link, meant to paste this one http://wiki.eclipse.org/Linux_Tools_Project/Getting_Started
[20:38:30] <mbooth> I'm not sure what you are asking?
[20:38:53] <mbooth> zarzar: The C/C++ package has some tools already installed yes -- gprof/gcov, valgrind, etc -- usually enough for most common needs
[20:39:30] <nitind> Check the Detailed features list at https://eclipse.org/downloads/packages/eclipse-ide-cc-developers/oxygenr
[20:40:04] <zarzar> oh ok
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[20:46:37] <zarzar> mbooth: i imported a makefile project, the makefile invokes the armhf cross compilers for c and c++, how do I use that in the eclipse project and in new projects?
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[21:09:21] <zarzar> hi "Tool Settings" is missing from the Properties->C/C++ Build->Settings in the makefile project I imported, it is a cross compiler makefile, what did I do wrong/
[21:09:24] <zarzar> ?
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[21:24:50] <zarzar> i installed c/c++ version of oxygen release, when I create a new project there is an option for c/c++ project using Cross GCC or Linux GCC, is the cross GCC compiler the one I installed (gcc version 5.4.0 20160609 (Ubuntu/Linaro 5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.4) ) or one that is part of eclipse install?
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[21:48:50] <zarzar> i just set up a project and added in cross compiler path and rpefix but the project builds native not cross compiler, does not invoke cross compiler, please help me sort this out
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