June 4, 2015 
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June 4, 2015 [00:00:39] *** BlackHorn has joined #eclipse[00:00:51] <BlackHorn> Can anyone tell me how to convert a .jar to an osgi bundle?[00:04:18] <mbooth> BlackHorn: It's usually just a case of adding extra metadata to the manifest file.[00:04:29] <mbooth> BlackHorn: This is a decent article: http://spring.io/blog/2008/02/18/creating-osgi-bundles/[00:07:22] *** BlackHorn has quit IRC[00:09:45] *** lefou has quit IRC[00:16:52] *** sene has quit IRC[00:18:03] *** LastTalon|Away is now known as LastTalon[00:31:05] *** hiroakip has quit IRC[00:31:24] *** rdutra has quit IRC[00:42:03] *** darkbasic_ has joined #eclipse[00:43:26] *** darkbasic has quit IRC[00:50:51] *** bb010g has quit IRC[00:55:44] *** Rickmasta has quit IRC[01:06:34] *** kernalogs has joined #eclipse[01:09:00] *** tommy_the_dragon has quit IRC[01:11:22] *** Rickmasta has joined #eclipse[01:13:33] *** Gama11_ has quit IRC[01:14:00] *** deSilva has quit IRC[01:24:30] *** Firespike has quit IRC[01:27:21] *** Firespike has 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BadBoy20[07:57:15] *** neo1691 has joined #eclipse[08:01:03] *** kottlett has joined #eclipse[08:02:16] *** ecfuser72182 has joined #eclipse[08:02:20] *** Firespike has quit IRC[08:09:49] *** momken has joined #eclipse[08:13:07] *** lefou has joined #eclipse[08:14:46] *** ecfuser72182 has quit IRC[08:14:49] *** neo1691 has quit IRC[08:19:03] *** neo1691 has joined #eclipse[08:19:21] *** kurus has joined #eclipse[08:20:14] *** Rickmasta has quit IRC[08:20:58] <kurus> there are separate package for Java,PHP,C++ builds. but i need to have all one. can i install all these through plugin[08:21:49] *** mistria has joined #eclipse[08:22:01] *** tdaitx has quit IRC[08:22:26] *** Gama11 has joined #eclipse[08:22:56] <nitind> kurus: yes[08:23:36] <kurus> thank you[08:27:37] *** LastTalon is now known as SquidNow[08:28:25] *** SquidNow is now known as KidNow[08:31:52] *** KidNow is now known as LastTalon[08:37:10] <kurus> nitind, can u give little bit explanation, bec i am in linux environment. and i have i downloaded separate packages are there any way to make them to one[08:38:20] *** fooctrl has joined #eclipse[08:38:22] *** vwegert has joined #eclipse[08:39:22] <nitind> kurus: No, you pick one to start and then use the included mechanism to add more features to it: http://help.eclipse.org/luna/topic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.user/tasks/tasks-124.htm .[08:43:20] *** neo1691 has quit IRC[08:44:58] <kurus> thank you nitind[08:50:03] *** mbooth has quit IRC[08:52:31] *** neo1691 has joined #eclipse[09:03:10] *** arturk has joined #eclipse[09:03:55] *** neo1691 has quit IRC[09:08:09] *** kurus has quit IRC[09:08:14] *** ppalaga has joined #eclipse[09:11:41] *** cbrun has joined #eclipse[09:19:02] *** mbooth has joined #eclipse[09:19:02] *** mbooth has joined #eclipse[09:20:08] *** Rickmasta has joined #eclipse[09:20:41] *** kurus has joined #eclipse[09:30:10] *** titanomachy has joined #eclipse[09:32:28] *** neo1691 has joined #eclipse[09:32:34] *** ylp1 has joined 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IRC[15:13:52] *** neo1691 has quit IRC[15:15:21] *** guidol has joined #eclipse[15:16:04] *** mistria has quit IRC[15:18:18] *** mistria has joined #eclipse[15:27:49] *** pacon has quit IRC[15:28:55] *** pacon has joined #eclipse[15:30:38] *** pacon has quit IRC[15:32:10] *** bsd has joined #eclipse[15:37:08] *** bsd has quit IRC[15:40:34] *** bsd has joined #eclipse[15:45:29] *** mamacdon has joined #eclipse[15:46:33] *** r00tWearsRedHats has quit IRC[15:50:56] *** r00tWearsRedHats has joined #eclipse[16:03:07] *** darkbasic_ has joined #eclipse[16:04:18] *** darkbasic has quit IRC[16:11:31] *** Firespike has joined #eclipse[16:12:56] *** bhorn1 has joined #eclipse[16:14:31] <bhorn1> Hey guys, looking into packaging Luna for a custom Ubuntu 15.04 install. Does anyone have any information as to why things are so far behind, first off. Second, does anyone have any experience with trying to package Luna for 15.04 yet?[16:17:42] *** vwegert has quit IRC[16:18:37] *** itissid has joined #eclipse[16:19:35] <itissid> is there a plugin to remove whitespaces on sourcecode on just the edited lines? BEcause I don't see how to do it for eclipse natively[16:19:39] *** kurus has joined #eclipse[16:21:33] <itissid> The default save actions don[16:21:41] <itissid> don't do the trick i believe[16:25:57] <nitind> Trailing whitespaces?[16:26:16] <itissid> nitind: test[16:26:18] <itissid> yes[16:29:48] <itissid> nitind: Right now the only option in eclipse is to remove trailing white spaces everywhere[16:31:19] *** Rickmasta has joined #eclipse[16:31:29] *** neo1691 has joined #eclipse[16:32:57] *** monk12 has quit IRC[16:33:00] *** monk12__ has quit IRC[16:33:13] <mbooth> bhorn1: It's so far behind probably because there is not much interest in it, sadly[16:34:24] <mbooth> bhorn1: There's probably a whole bunch of stuff missing from the distro that you will need first -- do you know if ubuntu ships tycho?[16:35:27] *** cumorris has joined #eclipse[16:35:35] <mbooth> jmspeex: BTW, did switching to GTK2 resolve your memory issues?[16:36:56] *** fooctrl has quit IRC[16:36:58] <bhorn1> mbooth: I don't believe so.[16:37:10] <jmspeex> mbooth: I was actually going to report on that[16:37:41] <jmspeex> All I can say is that so far the error has not reoccurred[16:38:44] <mbooth> jmspeex: Thanks for the feedback -- I asked others from my team, some of which are using Luna on F22 (I am still on F21) but no-one else has experienced it :-([16:38:56] <jmspeex> Previously, the MTBF has been about 1-2 hours and I've been working with Eclipse for about 4-6 hours since I moved it to GTK2. So it's not yet a definite confirmation that it's fixed, but it's looking propable.[16:39:34] <jmspeex> We'll know with more certainty later today I guess[16:39:59] <mbooth> jmspeex: I guess so -- I will definitely keep investigating it.[16:40:07] <jmspeex> mbooth: what does their setup look like. More broken like mine or closer to what I have on GTK2?[16:40:57] <mbooth> jmspeex: Unfortunately I am remote so I cannot see :-)[16:41:11] <jmspeex> they can provide a screenshot :-)[16:41:49] <jmspeex> With GTK2, Luna is now indistinguishable to what I had on F20: http://jmvalin.ca/video/screenshots/eclipse_daala.png[16:42:21] <mbooth> bhorn1: Are you familiar with building eclipse platform from source?[16:45:10] *** bpsizemore_ has joined #eclipse[16:45:12] <bhorn1> I am not.[16:46:58] <mbooth> bhorn1: If you wanted to package Luna for ubuntu, attempting to build it from source would be a good start. This is a good document: https://wiki.eclipse.org/Platform-releng/Platform_Build#Building[16:47:40] *** notIBM has joined #eclipse[16:48:15] <bhorn1> mbooth: Awesome. Thank you very much! Will check in periodically if I need you.[16:49:15] <mbooth> bhorn1: np[16:49:36] <notIBM> I'm running Kepler in Linux and am trying to display the plaintext of a password saved in secure storage. I have the master passphrase to secure storage but do not see a way within Eclipse to view the decrypted passwords in storage. Is this possible?[16:52:27] *** zz_NumberNoid is now known as NumberNoid[16:53:02] *** tdaitx has joined #eclipse[16:56:32] <jmspeex> mbooth: I did a quick test in gnome3 with a new user. Eclipse GTK3 looks about the same (bad!) as with XFCE. I didn't test long enough to trigger the memory issue though[16:57:46] <mbooth> jmspeex: It would be interesting to know whether it only occurs with xfce...[16:57:53] *** itissid has left #eclipse[16:58:24] <jmspeex> Well, that is hard to figure out because it only happens when I'm getting work done. And I can't get work done in gnome3.[16:58:55] <mbooth> I understand[16:59:44] <jmspeex> but considering that it doesn't look different from what it looks in XFCE, I think it's likely.[17:01:56] *** darkbasic_ has quit IRC[17:03:20] *** darkbasic has joined #eclipse[17:13:43] *** ylp1 has quit IRC[17:16:12] <jmspeex> mbooth: now that I have a working Eclipse setup, is there a way to make sure that if it gets upgraded to soemthing broken I'm still able to go back?[17:18:06] <mbooth> jmspeex: At most you might have to re-edit your eclipse.ini to select GTK2.. Unless I misunderstand the question?[17:18:40] <jmspeex> mbooth: Well, you were talking about upgrading Eclipse to Mars... who knows what issues that can bring[17:18:46] *** Rickmasta has quit IRC[17:21:25] <mbooth> jmspeex: There is "excludes" option for dnf: http://dnf.readthedocs.org/en/latest/conf_ref.html#options-for-both-main-and-repo[17:21:38] <mbooth> If you don't want to see upgrades[17:21:55] <jmspeex> mbooth: I mean I'm OK with trying it, I'd just like a fallback if it doesn't work[17:23:18] <mbooth> Oh okay, sure. That should be possible with dnf history undo command: http://dnf.readthedocs.org/en/latest/command_ref.html#history-command[17:23:45] <mbooth> (I haven't tried it though :-)[17:23:49] *** darkbasic has quit IRC[17:24:03] <jmspeex> are all old versions of packages stored somewhere?[17:24:13] *** darkbasic has joined #eclipse[17:24:56] <jmspeex> I recall in the past (F17) having problems because newer kernels didn't work and I couldn't get the old ones that had been deleted from my laptop.[17:27:05] *** momken has quit IRC[17:27:08] <mbooth> jmspeex: These are questions for Fedora Infra people -- In the worst case, I believe you would still be able to get all historic builds from koji: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=183[17:27:18] *** Gama11 has quit IRC[17:27:25] *** momken has joined #eclipse[17:28:39] *** Gama11 has joined #eclipse[17:32:08] *** darkbasic has quit IRC[17:32:16] *** jamespat has joined #eclipse[17:32:34] *** darkbasic has joined #eclipse[17:37:45] *** mamacdon has quit IRC[17:40:56] *** darkbasic_ has joined #eclipse[17:41:50] *** darkbasic has quit IRC[17:50:22] *** MandL27 has quit IRC[17:51:57] *** krowv has joined #eclipse[17:55:44] *** ericwill has quit IRC[17:56:22] *** ericwill has joined #eclipse[18:01:35] *** Psyko_ has joined #eclipse[18:02:38] <Psyko_> Hello. Does anyone know where to find the minimum list of required features (feature id) for a basic eclipse e4 app ?[18:03:09] *** ppalaga is now known as ppalaga_away[18:03:35] *** bsd has quit IRC[18:04:17] *** MandL27 has joined #eclipse[18:10:15] *** mistria has quit IRC[18:12:23] *** fooctrl has joined #eclipse[18:18:08] *** arturk has quit IRC[18:18:33] *** fooctrl has quit IRC[18:20:07] *** luneff has joined #eclipse[18:29:57] *** jamespat has left #eclipse[18:30:51] *** bb010g has quit IRC[18:31:08] <jmspeex> mbooth: another piece of potentially useful info about the memory problem. In most (all?) cases when it happened, I was actually saving a file, which then triggered a build (I have build on save enabled).[18:34:43] *** mamacdon has joined #eclipse[18:41:12] <mbooth> jmspeex: Interesting, thanks[18:41:53] <jmspeex> Also, I think I mentioned it before but the leak looked like it was in the shared memory with the X server[18:42:56] <jmspeex> i.e. the "SHR" field in Xorg (and also java IIRC) would go up to 2-3 GB and the whole machine would get very very slow to respond. killing eclipse would then bring things back to normal.[18:47:13] <jmspeex> Also, it's not 100% clear to me what the exact cause of the slowdown was (whether it was just X or the whole system). I don't have swap enabled on my system so it can't be a "swap storm". I also have 16 GB RAM so the "pressure" wasn't so large either by the time I did the kill.[18:48:32] <mbooth> jmspeex: Does the kernel OOM killer get activated if you don't kill it yourself?[18:49:12] <jmspeex> mbooth: I never let it run long enough to check that. Besides, the OOM could very well have killed X[18:50:27] <mbooth> I just think of enabling of enabling dump task state on oom kill[18:53:19] <jmspeex> Just curious, is anyone working on a Qt GUI for Eclipse?[18:53:52] *** bhorn1 is now known as bhorn1|lunch[18:56:14] <mbooth> jmspeex: TBH I've no idea, there was some talk about it, but then people got excited about javafx[18:58:23] <jmspeex> My only experience with Gtk managed to convince me that it's a terrible development framework (despite the fact that I think it looks slightly better than Qt).[18:59:57] <mbooth> jmspeex: Our chief problem is trying to support every version of GTK between 2.18 and 3.18[19:00:03] <mbooth> It's a maintenance nightmare[19:00:23] <jmspeex> They're changing the API between minor releases?[19:00:29] <mbooth> Yep[19:00:37] <jmspeex> nice[19:00:38] <mbooth> LeoUfimtsev might have some war story ;-)[19:02:01] <jmspeex> Well, I never played with Gtk3, but I had to transition an app from Gtk1/gnome1 to Gtk2/gnome2. That was a major PITA because of all the stuff they deprecated.[19:02:45] <jmspeex> "Look, here's GnomeCanvas and everyone should use it... no nm we're depecating it."[19:07:00] <jmspeex> BTW, what does GTK share with the X server beyond pixmaps?[19:08:41] <mbooth> Good question :-)[19:09:52] *** mamacdon has quit IRC[19:11:51] *** mamacdon has joined #eclipse[19:19:00] *** bsd has joined #eclipse[19:40:16] *** mamacdon has quit IRC[19:40:45] <LeoUfimtsev> mbooth, hmmm ?[19:41:11] *** notIBM has quit IRC[19:42:37] *** mamacdon has joined #eclipse[19:43:26] <mbooth> LeoUfimtsev: Was talking about the range of GTK versions we must support[19:43:48] <LeoUfimtsev> I see I see[19:49:28] *** bpsizemore_ has quit IRC[20:07:10] *** mikael_a has quit IRC[20:12:16] *** bhorn1|lunch has quit IRC[20:18:26] *** hiroakip has joined #eclipse[20:22:37] *** r00tWearsRedHats has quit IRC[20:23:36] *** hiroakip has quit IRC[20:24:25] *** hiroakip has joined #eclipse[20:25:32] *** r00tWearsRedHats has joined #eclipse[20:39:18] *** Jackneill has joined #eclipse[20:54:22] *** darkbasic_ has quit IRC[20:55:44] *** darkbasic has joined #eclipse[21:05:04] *** luneff has quit IRC[21:22:16] *** rafaelsene has joined #eclipse[21:29:39] *** ericwill has quit IRC[21:29:47] *** ericwill has joined #eclipse[21:34:00] *** kurus has quit IRC[21:34:09] *** Rickmasta has joined #eclipse[21:35:53] *** HotCoder has joined #eclipse[21:48:59] *** Guest60251 has quit IRC[21:49:03] *** darkbasic_ has joined #eclipse[21:50:06] *** darkbasic has quit IRC[21:54:25] *** mamacdon has quit IRC[21:56:16] *** Fisiu has quit IRC[22:00:53] *** paulweb515 has quit IRC[22:00:59] *** Olipro_ has joined #eclipse[22:01:05] *** Olipro_ is now known as Guest27039[22:01:07] *** Psyko_ has quit IRC[22:03:09] *** lefou has quit IRC[22:04:16] *** Rickmasta has quit IRC[22:05:31] *** MisterD has joined #eclipse[22:18:00] *** momken has quit IRC[22:24:41] *** Rickmasta has joined #eclipse[22:38:43] *** ppalaga_away has left #eclipse[22:38:56] *** ericwill has quit IRC[22:59:36] *** deSilva has joined #eclipse[23:01:19] *** bgardner has quit IRC[23:02:43] *** paulweb515 has joined #eclipse[23:05:58] *** pacon has joined #eclipse[23:25:20] *** bsd has quit IRC[23:28:51] *** Jackneill has quit IRC[23:30:46] *** Rickmasta has quit IRC[23:47:09] *** pacon has quit IRC[23:50:17] *** kottlett has quit IRC