June 3, 2015 
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IRC[01:42:33] <HotCoder> drake the type of guy to clean project everytime he finishes working with eclipse[01:55:48] *** bsd has joined #eclipse[01:57:04] *** TheNet has joined #eclipse[02:19:47] *** bsd has quit IRC[02:23:32] *** karpuragauram has joined #eclipse[02:27:27] *** vivekananda has quit IRC[02:38:23] *** MandL26 has joined #eclipse[02:40:50] *** bb010g has quit IRC[02:42:27] *** MandL27 has quit IRC[02:44:55] *** bsd has joined #eclipse[02:49:40] *** karpuragauram has quit IRC[02:59:59] *** MisterD has quit IRC[03:08:28] *** LastTalon has quit IRC[03:16:24] *** MandL25 has joined #eclipse[03:19:21] *** MandL26 has quit IRC[04:12:23] *** bsd has quit IRC[04:17:44] *** LastTalon has joined #eclipse[04:33:30] *** mamacdon has joined #eclipse[04:49:45] *** TheNet has quit IRC[04:50:14] *** Firespike_ has quit IRC[04:55:24] *** bb010g has joined #eclipse[04:56:48] *** Firespike has joined #eclipse[04:57:14] *** darkbasic has quit IRC[04:57:46] *** darkbasic has joined 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IRC[07:19:22] *** melonstorm has joined #eclipse[07:40:04] *** Rickmasta has quit IRC[07:59:02] *** shal3r has quit IRC[08:00:27] *** shal3r has joined #eclipse[08:03:00] *** momken has joined #eclipse[08:23:34] *** m1hael has joined #eclipse[08:24:20] *** deSilva has quit IRC[08:24:47] *** momken has quit IRC[08:29:29] *** Pulp has quit IRC[08:30:59] *** vwegert has joined #eclipse[08:35:51] *** avvs has joined #eclipse[08:36:37] *** avvs_ has joined #eclipse[08:37:16] *** momken has joined #eclipse[08:41:11] *** fooctrl has joined #eclipse[08:46:16] *** ylp1 has joined #eclipse[08:55:41] *** rominronin has joined #eclipse[08:58:35] *** neer has joined #eclipse[08:59:36] <neer> Eclipse mars is available for download but download link takes to to installer download[08:59:54] <neer> Have anyone tried this installer yet?[09:02:47] *** magnet has quit IRC[09:05:44] *** lefou has joined #eclipse[09:11:39] *** cbrun has joined #eclipse[09:23:51] *** Whiskey has quit IRC[09:27:13] *** neeraj has joined #eclipse[09:38:14] *** z8z has joined #eclipse[09:38:51] *** kottlett has joined #eclipse[09:40:29] *** MisterD has joined #eclipse[09:41:12] *** fooctrl2 has joined #eclipse[09:43:42] *** Whiskey has joined #eclipse[09:44:09] *** jim has joined #eclipse[09:44:22] *** acron17_ has joined #eclipse[09:46:00] <jim> I'm trying to do a python project, every time I run it, it wants to use ant to run it when (not surprisingly) there's not an ant file... possible to fix this?[09:48:08] <jim> right now the project consists of one python source file, and it needs two modules which have been installed into a virtual env, and I tried to select that python as the interpreter[09:49:35] *** neer has quit IRC[09:52:39] *** Rickmasta has joined #eclipse[09:53:30] *** xcoulon has joined #eclipse[09:56:00] *** LastTalon is now known as LastTalon|Sleep[09:57:26] <amitev> egit advanced users around?[10:00:13] <mbooth> amitev: Please ask your question[10:00:17] *** LastTalon has joined #eclipse[10:01:11] <amitev> i created a branch where i renamed some directories and the history is fine (it follows renames) however after i merged the branch back in the master the history follows don't work anymore[10:01:15] *** tdaitx has quit IRC[10:01:26] <amitev> i see only the commit that changed the file path[10:01:59] <amitev> when i manually run git log --follow <file name> in the console i see a correct history[10:02:57] *** LastTalon|Sleep has quit IRC[10:02:59] *** ppalaga has joined #eclipse[10:03:06] *** mistria has joined #eclipse[10:04:07] *** cbrun has quit IRC[10:04:14] *** cbrun_ has joined #eclipse[10:05:49] <amitev> btw "Follow Renames" is checked[10:06:15] <mbooth> amitev: So the merge worked correctly and just the history view is incorrect?[10:06:27] <amitev> yes[10:06:50] <amitev> and is incorrect only in the history view of eclipse[10:07:08] <mbooth> amitev: Sounds like a bug in egit then :-)[10:07:23] <amitev> yes[10:07:34] <amitev> i'm currently browsing the bugzilla but cannot find anything related[10:07:45] <mbooth> amitev: Consider trying the very latest nightly to see if it is already fixed[10:08:04] <mbooth> If it is still a problem in the nightly, you should consider opening a new bug[10:08:46] <mbooth> amitev: See "Nightly Builds" https://www.eclipse.org/egit/download/[10:08:51] <amitev> it looks similar to - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=434085[10:10:46] <amitev> mbooth: thx. trying right away[10:11:02] <mbooth> amitev: Yeah it could be that bug[10:22:30] *** Rickmasta has quit IRC[10:22:47] *** scela has joined #eclipse[10:33:33] *** scela_ has joined #eclipse[10:34:39] *** scela__ has joined #eclipse[10:43:11] *** scela__ has quit IRC[10:43:15] *** scela_ has quit IRC[10:43:19] *** scela has quit IRC[10:47:34] *** Olipro_ is now known as Olipro[10:52:38] *** Alina-malina has quit IRC[10:53:21] <jim> two things git does not do... one, track directories, two, track renames[11:10:14] *** rominronin has quit IRC[11:26:13] *** ylp1 has quit IRC[11:26:16] *** ylp2 has joined #eclipse[11:28:08] *** Alina-malina has joined #eclipse[11:34:57] *** gossi has joined #eclipse[11:36:19] <gossi> I exported my Eclipse RCP App (with the PDE Product definition editor), yet it is unable to start, the Application class can't be found in the classpath. At which point did I miss putting the classpath together?[11:37:04] *** rominronin has joined #eclipse[11:38:59] <mbooth> gossi: Usually that means unresolved bundle -- did you add extra bundle to your run configuration that are not specified as a dep in your product?[11:40:23] *** cbrun_ has quit IRC[11:40:46] <gossi> mbooth: Here is the error message: http://pastebin.com/JunYkE2Y[11:41:48] <gossi> I added some plugins to my product dependencies (those required for the compatbility layer) anyway I just synch from plugin.xml to .product (it is an e3 RCP plugin)[11:43:06] <mbooth> gossi: And does it work when you launch the product using this button: http://help.eclipse.org/luna/topic/org.eclipse.pde.doc.user/guide/images/product_editor/overview_testing.png[11:43:17] <gossi> yes, it does[11:43:58] <gossi> err, nope not anymore...[11:44:07] <gossi> same error now[11:44:57] <mbooth> gossi: Right, this button re-creates your run profile[11:45:33] <gossi> I had it running the other day, then I only hit export[11:45:41] <jim> I'm trying to do a python project, every time I run it, it wants to use ant to run it when (not surprisingly) there's not an ant file... possible to fix this?[11:46:53] <jim> and, I'm not sure how to include the proper environment, there are some old lib dirs I happen to not be using[11:47:04] *** it_ has joined #eclipse[11:47:57] <mbooth> gossi: It is still likely to be a missing dep[11:48:05] <it_> Hello there. I have "undocked" my code area from eclipse to another screen. Now when I look at the problems tab and doubleclick one, it opens the file. Unfortunately that does not happen where I want it to. (Where the other code window is). How can I control that..?[11:48:49] *** cbrun_ has joined #eclipse[11:49:25] <gossi> mbooth: I think I'll work it out on my own now - I had a shifted mindset of what stage my plugin/app was in, which you corrected - thanks :)[11:50:47] <paulweb515> amitev: yes[11:51:00] *** ylp2 has quit IRC[11:58:18] *** it_ has quit IRC[12:01:06] <paulweb515> bbiab[12:01:51] *** TomTom has joined #eclipse[12:01:51] <gossi> mbooth: ok, not quite... I do get the "launch" button to work, yet the exported product isn't starting. I think I located the error: In my plugin under "runtime" tab, I have all my required jars in the classpath + my "src/" folder, which I think is the wrong entry here[12:02:38] <gossi> I tried "." and "./" instead, yet they don't seem to work, I can't start the plugin from inside eclipse then[12:07:14] *** ylp1 has joined #eclipse[12:07:28] *** momken has quit IRC[12:08:47] <mbooth> gossi: How is your build.properties file?[12:09:18] <mbooth> If you open the exported jar for that bundles, does it contain everything you expect?[12:10:05] <gossi> yes, everything is there[12:10:38] <gossi> bin.inclues: META-INF/, icons/, splash.bmp, bin/, plugin_customization.ini, plugin.xml, lib/, src/[12:12:01] <gossi> however, I am working with src/ but the complied .class files are under bin/ does that matter?[12:13:36] <gossi> :] Adding bin/ to my class path made it work[12:15:07] <mbooth> gossi: Usually I expect it to look like this: http://fpaste.org/228381/14333264/[12:15:19] <mbooth> But if that works for you then that is good :-)[12:15:44] <gossi> yours makes more sense =)[12:18:20] <gossi> ... but doesn't work :D I'll go back to mine ;)[12:18:48] <mbooth> May be some difference in project layout :-)[12:20:00] *** momken has joined #eclipse[12:20:22] *** Rickmasta has joined #eclipse[12:42:41] *** avvs has quit IRC[12:42:41] *** avvs_ has quit IRC[12:43:03] *** avvs has joined #eclipse[12:43:47] *** avvs_ has joined #eclipse[12:45:49] *** avvs has quit IRC[12:46:07] *** avvs_ has quit IRC[12:50:05] *** Rickmasta has quit IRC[13:08:25] *** z8z has quit IRC[13:10:10] *** rominronin has quit IRC[13:10:30] *** HotCoder has quit IRC[13:14:44] *** Firespike has joined #eclipse[13:15:32] *** rominronin has joined #eclipse[13:30:38] *** bgardner has joined #eclipse[13:40:01] *** cbrun_ has quit IRC[13:45:18] *** Pulp has joined #eclipse[13:45:43] *** it_ has joined #eclipse[13:46:34] <it_> Hey. How can I undock my code view from the eclipse window and have new files be opened in a tab there?[13:48:06] *** rdutra has joined #eclipse[13:51:08] *** enleeten has quit IRC[13:57:36] *** enleeten has joined #eclipse[13:57:36] <it_> ?[14:12:34] <paulweb515> amitev: ping[14:14:15] *** darkbasic has quit IRC[14:14:31] *** darkbasic has joined #eclipse[14:27:14] <it_> ? How is it defined where my files are opened when I do so. Like in what view are they opened? Can I change that to some undocked view?[14:28:33] *** darkbasic_ has joined #eclipse[14:29:18] *** avvs has joined #eclipse[14:29:44] *** darkbasic has quit IRC[14:31:26] *** sene has joined #eclipse[14:31:38] *** mamacdon has joined #eclipse[14:32:10] *** sene has quit IRC[14:32:42] *** sene has joined #eclipse[14:47:03] *** ericwill has joined #eclipse[14:49:58] *** StephenLynx has joined #eclipse[14:52:34] <StephenLynx> hey, is it possible to set html formatting settings to be project specific? http://imgur.com/l61QuAc,W8D86hg notice in the first image the editor settings. but in the project settings, they are not there at all.[14:52:41] <StephenLynx> this is a static content web project.[14:56:27] <it_> Anyone using CDT? I'm having issues with the C++ indexer not even being able to recognize a variable from the same method ...[14:56:48] <it_> So let's say I get a parameter passed in a method and somewhere where it's used I want to find its declaration, the indexer won't find it....[14:57:32] <ericwill> it_ are you using any special libs?[14:57:48] <it_> We have our own written frameworks and we also use boost and other libraries[14:57:57] <it_> *framework[14:58:58] <it_> one problem might be that we are not compiling with eclipse. We just use make targets in eclipse. So by default our projects have no toolchain defined, if that's an issue[14:59:46] <ericwill> you most likely need to add all your framework/libs in the project properties[15:00:00] <ericwill> project properties -> C/C++ General -> Paths and Symbols -> References[15:00:30] <ericwill> that's how I get the indexer to read my stuff when I use Gtk and other libs[15:00:44] <it_> Yes but here it's just about one method?[15:01:26] <ericwill> hmm. does it compile outside of eclipse?[15:01:41] <ericwill> sometimes the indexer is not perfect i.e. it misses the odd function name/type[15:01:53] <it_> Yes it works perfectly.[15:02:05] <it_> It must be the settings in eclipse, but I have no clue what could be wrong..[15:02:20] <ericwill> could just be an indexer bug. it happens[15:03:06] <it_> :c[15:03:16] <it_> happens like really often though.. ?[15:04:06] *** MisterD has quit IRC[15:05:22] <it_> and any idea how that works with opened files? In what view are they opened? Can I move that to some window NOT in eclipse?[15:06:11] <ericwill> it happens to me yeah. won't recognize some of the variables being passed to a method even though the type is correct and in the indexer can find the method[15:06:21] <ericwill> and what do you mean by opened files[15:08:47] *** Pulp has quit IRC[15:09:14] <it_> Well in the project explorer when you click a file, it opens[15:09:28] <it_> It usually opens at the same place, how can I make this place be elsewhere?[15:09:33] *** wainersm has joined #eclipse[15:09:44] *** Firespike has quit IRC[15:09:47] <it_> It seems as if this area is specially for code files? It's possible to move it by moving all the others[15:10:05] <ericwill> you mean like you want the code in a new window or something similar?[15:10:05] <it_> But what if I want to detach this "code area" from eclipse itself? I can detach one file, but new files aren't opened there..[15:10:44] <it_> Yes[15:11:16] <it_> I have two screens and it would be nice if one contained only code[15:11:59] <ericwill> something like this perhaps: http://help.eclipse.org/luna/index.jsp?topic=%2Forg.eclipse.platform.doc.user%2Ftasks%2Ftasks-9l.htm[15:12:03] <ericwill> I have never tried it[15:12:55] *** darkbasic has joined #eclipse[15:12:58] *** darkbasic_ has quit IRC[15:13:00] *** Gama11 has joined #eclipse[15:13:57] <it_> I'll have a look at it, ty[15:18:03] *** bsd has joined #eclipse[15:23:34] *** TheNet has joined #eclipse[15:25:38] *** Rickmasta has joined #eclipse[15:33:19] *** gossi has quit IRC[15:37:39] *** lefou has quit IRC[15:39:42] *** rominronin has quit IRC[15:42:36] *** Gama11_ has joined #eclipse[15:44:24] *** Gama11 has quit IRC[15:45:25] *** rominronin has joined #eclipse[15:47:35] *** wainersm has quit IRC[15:47:47] *** wainersm has joined #eclipse[15:49:17] *** ylp2 has joined #eclipse[15:49:17] *** ylp1 has quit IRC[15:53:29] *** r00tWearsRedHats has quit IRC[15:56:55] *** r00tWearsRedHats has joined #eclipse[16:04:06] *** avvs has quit IRC[16:05:13] *** Rickmasta has quit IRC[16:12:53] *** Gama11 has joined #eclipse[16:12:53] <amitev> paulweb515: pong[16:13:40] <amitev> mbooth: tried the lastes nightly build - no effect[16:13:46] *** Blaguvest has quit IRC[16:16:33] *** Gama11_ has quit IRC[16:19:52] *** avvs has joined #eclipse[16:29:16] *** fooctrl has quit IRC[16:35:35] *** ppalaga has left #eclipse[16:36:08] *** StephenLynx has left #eclipse[16:37:21] *** r00tWearsRedHats has quit IRC[16:41:03] *** r00tWearsRedHats has joined #eclipse[16:42:18] *** tdaitx has joined #eclipse[16:42:20] *** r00tWearsRedHats has quit IRC[16:46:10] *** r00tWearsRedHats has joined #eclipse[16:46:44] *** zz_NumberNoid is now known as NumberNoid[16:47:17] *** r00tWearsRedHats has quit IRC[16:47:54] *** r00tWearsRedHats has joined #eclipse[16:55:37] *** avvs has quit IRC[17:05:39] <paulweb515> amitev: you had an EGit question[17:11:39] *** ylp2 has quit IRC[17:11:54] *** sene has quit IRC[17:12:57] *** viran has joined #eclipse[17:13:27] <viran> Hey, I've got luna, just updated to JDK8... How do I make them work togheter? The JAVA_HOME env var is set to the new JDK[17:14:42] <viran> never mind, got it[17:15:36] *** raztoki has quit IRC[17:18:55] *** viran has quit IRC[17:21:26] *** acron17_ has quit IRC[17:21:37] *** m1hael has left #eclipse[17:23:20] *** raztoki has joined #eclipse[17:24:55] *** mamacdon has quit IRC[17:42:41] *** paulweb515 has quit IRC[18:00:10] *** ircfox has joined #eclipse[18:00:20] <ircfox> Hello folks![18:01:07] <ircfox> I got a issue after upgrading some of my Android SDK like an exclamation mark at the top of my projects, Could someone help me figure how to fix it please?[18:06:12] *** Blaguvest has joined #eclipse[18:08:19] *** it_ has quit IRC[18:18:20] *** paulweb515 has joined #eclipse[18:18:48] *** darkbasic_ has joined #eclipse[18:19:27] *** darkbasic has quit IRC[18:20:35] *** Argure has quit IRC[18:21:31] *** gossi has joined #eclipse[18:21:58] *** rdutra has quit IRC[18:22:56] *** paulweb515 has quit IRC[18:23:17] *** tdaitx_ has joined #eclipse[18:23:23] *** tdaitx has quit IRC[18:26:00] *** Argure has joined #eclipse[18:30:15] *** tdaitx_ has quit IRC[18:37:22] *** paulweb515 has joined #eclipse[18:38:52] *** sene has joined #eclipse[18:39:00] *** bsd has quit IRC[18:41:38] *** gossi has quit IRC[18:48:46] *** bsd has joined #eclipse[18:53:32] *** Gama11_ has joined #eclipse[18:56:54] *** Gama11 has quit IRC[19:05:00] *** rdutra has joined #eclipse[19:14:23] *** bsd has quit IRC[19:17:48] *** rdutra has quit IRC[19:22:07] *** rominronin has quit IRC[19:33:59] *** MandL25 is now known as MandL27[19:35:24] *** bsd has joined #eclipse[19:41:26] *** Firespike has joined #eclipse[19:45:11] *** TomTom has quit IRC[19:53:37] *** justtobe has joined #eclipse[19:53:49] *** neo1691 has quit IRC[19:57:34] *** neo1691 has joined #eclipse[19:58:43] *** MandL26 has joined #eclipse[20:01:46] *** MandL27 has quit IRC[20:13:57] *** hiroakip has joined #eclipse[20:18:36] *** MisterD has joined #eclipse[20:19:09] *** mistria has quit IRC[20:24:18] *** Psyko_ has joined #eclipse[20:25:22] <Psyko_> Hello. Does anyone have some tips about e4 product deployment (feature based) for multi architecture (32 and 64bits) ? I always have error when using the delta pack[20:27:12] <Psyko_> The product launches fine. The x86_64 export as well. But when I try to export for multi-architecture, I have unresolved dependencies issues about some 64 bits libs[20:29:42] *** spyzer has joined #eclipse[20:29:46] *** bsd has quit IRC[20:30:50] <spyzer> hi everyone, is there a way to look at code for eclipse plugins in side eclipse. Weird question, but a noob just asking[20:40:25] <nitind> spyzer: Install the PDE (Plug-in Development Environment) and then the "Developer" or "SDK" features for whatever plug-ins you're thinking about.[20:40:42] <mbooth> spyzer: And then if you open the "Plug-in" view, you can right-click a plug-in and "import as source project"[20:43:40] *** spyzer has quit IRC[20:43:46] *** spyzer_ has joined #eclipse[20:43:51] <spyzer_> thanks :)[20:44:23] *** MandL26 is now known as MandL27[20:47:37] <spyzer_> one more thing, does freenode supports loading last N messages through a bot? I mean i just got disconnected and I need to look at last few messages which were conveyed to me[20:49:37] <spyzer_> ~logs[20:49:37] <Arbalest> Looking for your Eclipse logs? The workspace log should be located at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. In Eclipse, try Help > About > Installation Details > Configuration and then choose "View Error Log". If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F[20:49:39] <nitind> spyzer_: No, but there's a bot logging this and other channels. See the topic.[20:50:08] *** tdaitx has joined #eclipse[20:50:39] <spyzer_> yup got it, thanks[20:53:32] *** darkbasic_ has quit IRC[20:54:59] *** darkbasic has joined #eclipse[20:56:06] *** LastTalon_ has joined #eclipse[20:59:04] *** LastTalon has quit IRC[21:00:12] <Psyko_> Is there a way to automatically add required plugins to a feature project ?[21:01:40] <nitind> What does that mean?[21:02:27] <Psyko_> I'm working on an e4 app that was plugin based. I want to switch to feature based in order to use p2[21:02:53] *** LastTalon has joined #eclipse[21:03:05] <Psyko_> So I created a feature project from the "Run configuraion" of my app using eclipse Wizard[21:03:46] <Psyko_> but since I'm running on a 64bit platform, the feature misses all the 32bits plugins (SWT...)[21:04:34] <Psyko_> and in the Feature.xml editor, under Dependency tab, there is no "Add Required Plug-ins", while there is in the plugin.xml editor[21:05:03] *** LastTalon_ has quit IRC[21:10:51] *** bb010g has quit IRC[21:12:44] *** adante has quit IRC[21:14:52] *** darkbasic_ has joined #eclipse[21:15:42] *** darkbasic has quit IRC[21:15:44] *** spyzer_ has quit IRC[21:16:31] *** TheNet has quit IRC[21:17:46] *** Psyko_ has quit IRC[21:17:51] *** momken has quit IRC[21:18:30] *** xcoulon has left #eclipse[21:20:48] *** lefou has joined #eclipse[21:20:59] *** r0kc4t has quit IRC[21:21:34] *** adante has joined #eclipse[21:43:32] *** mamacdon has joined #eclipse[21:45:42] *** tommy_the_dragon has joined #eclipse[21:47:17] *** rdutra has joined #eclipse[21:53:22] *** paulweb515 has quit IRC[21:58:04] *** HotCoder has joined #eclipse[22:00:20] *** sene has quit IRC[22:00:49] *** sene has joined #eclipse[22:01:14] *** TheNet has joined #eclipse[22:03:16] *** Blaguvest has quit IRC[22:12:43] *** r0kc4t has joined #eclipse[22:16:46] *** hiroakip has quit IRC[22:16:55] *** hiroakip has joined #eclipse[22:19:15] <jmspeex> I'm running Eclipse Luna and every 1-2 hours it goes in a loop of eating all memory available on the system (I have to kill it quick before everything grinds to a halt).[22:19:28] <jmspeex> Any clues on whether I should be blaming Eclipse of jre for that?[22:19:31] *** ericwill has quit IRC[22:20:33] <mbooth> jmspeex: What platform?[22:20:41] <jmspeex> Linux (Fedora 22)[22:21:13] <mbooth> jmspeex: Are you using Luna from Fedora package repos or downloaded from eclipse.org?[22:21:20] <jmspeex> From Fedora[22:21:52] <jmspeex> I'd previously had better luck with the Fedora packages than Eclipse downloads (fewer "Eclipse is ugly" issues)[22:22:24] <mbooth> jmspeex: Hmm, we carry a lot of patches in Fedora because GTK moves too quickly for upstream Eclipse[22:22:50] <jmspeex> I've been really happy with Kepler in F20.[22:23:00] <jmspeex> But since I upgraded to F22, it's been pretty terrible[22:23:22] <mbooth> jmspeex: Would you please file a bug at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ ?[22:23:24] <jmspeex> It's not only ugly, but I get this annoying memory issue[22:23:53] <jmspeex> I'm not sure what to file, but I can try.[22:24:03] <jmspeex> BTW, this is what Eclipse looked like in F20: http://jmvalin.ca/video/screenshots/eclipse_daala.png[22:24:23] <jmspeex> And this is what it looks like in F22: http://jmvalin.ca/misc_stuff/eclipse_luna.png[22:25:32] <mbooth> jmspeex: Can you try running it under GTK2 instead of GTK3?[22:25:40] <mbooth> To see if that fixes your problem[22:25:52] <jmspeex> iIs that the SWT_GTK3=0 thing?[22:26:12] <mbooth> jmspeex: No, you need to edit your /etc/eclipse.ini[22:26:26] <mbooth> And set --launcher.GTK_version to 2[22:26:38] <jmspeex> let me try that[22:28:14] <jmspeex> Ha! It suddenly looks right again[22:28:22] *** bb010g has joined #eclipse[22:29:17] <mbooth> jmspeex: Yeah, GTK3 is a moving target :-/ Unfortunately this isn't a real fix since GTK2 will eventually go away[22:30:50] <jmspeex> Still I don't understand why Fedora would ship something that broken[22:31:43] <mbooth> jmspeex: Eclipse and GTK3 looked really good until recently, honestly![22:31:57] <jmspeex> I also don't undertand why there's absolutely no mention of this "hack" anywhere I could find on the Web[22:32:28] <mbooth> jmspeex: Anyway, my plan is to move F22 to Eclipse Mars when it is released.[22:32:49] <mbooth> Which should work a lot better[22:35:03] <jmspeex> mbooth: are you Fedora package maintainer for Eclipse?[22:35:10] <mbooth> jmspeex: Yes[22:35:26] <jmspeex> May I suggest pusking the GTK2 change before that?[22:36:04] <jmspeex> Out-of-the-box eclipse on F22 right now is really terrible[22:38:27] <mbooth> jmspeex: We stayed with GTK2 for F21 and that lead to many crash reports due to crappy proprietary browser plugins causing webkit to crash :-([22:38:37] <mbooth> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F21_bugs#eclipse-crash-bluejeans[22:39:01] <mbooth> And the workaround was to switch to GTK3 (!)[22:39:12] *** darkbasic has joined #eclipse[22:39:23] <mbooth> Because the webkit support in gtk3 does proper sandboxing of plugins[22:39:27] *** darkbasic_ has quit IRC[22:39:48] <jmspeex> Well, right now, support for proprietary plugin makes Eclipse nearly unusable for everyone[22:39:59] <nitind> support or lack of it?[22:40:03] * jmspeex 's machine has no proprietary crap on it[22:40:46] * nitind wouldn't pretend that non-proprietary can't smell as bad[22:41:17] <jmspeex> non-proprietary has a chance of being fixed[22:41:35] <mbooth> nitind: We can't fix proprietary browser plug-ins :-([22:42:16] <mbooth> But I can't switch it back to gtk2 just because of aesthetic problems[22:42:45] <jmspeex> mbooth: In any case, I'll see if the memory bug also goes away with GTK2. I suspect it might because when it happens, the memory shows up as shared memory with Xorg[22:43:02] <mbooth> jmspeex: I would appreciate that feedback[22:43:26] <jmspeex> mbooth: It's beyond aesthetic. The cursor acts weird, the colors are all wrong, ...[22:43:44] <jmspeex> I mean I'd assume anyone running F22 would easily see it[22:44:18] <jmspeex> mbooth: BTW, not sure it has an impact, but I'm running XFCE[22:44:23] <mbooth> The colours are different because gtk3 theming works very differently[22:44:46] <mbooth> There are many on-going bugs about getting it right[22:45:04] <mbooth> Aha, FWIW I only use it on gnome 3[22:45:31] <jmspeex> well, the colours are pretty broken anyway, including highlighting being nearly invisible, and the same color as the symbols that highlight when you click on them.[22:46:01] *** mamacdon2 has joined #eclipse[22:46:06] <jmspeex> mbooth: With gnome3, do you also see the tabs being very tall like I have in my screenshot?[22:46:19] <jmspeex> and the toolbar items being much wider?[22:46:21] *** mamacdon has quit IRC[22:49:09] <mbooth> jmspeex: Hmm, I remember a patch about this: http://git.eclipse.org/c/platform/eclipse.platform.swt.git/commit/?id=4b2efc18e9766c038130b73874c789ddb36da6d2[22:49:25] <mbooth> jmspeex: I will see if it is present on Fedora and back-port it for you if not[22:52:57] <jmspeex> mbooth: the toolbars are just one issue, though I guess fixing that doesn't hurt.[22:53:43] *** mamacdon2 has quit IRC[22:54:04] <mbooth> jmspeex: Out of interest, do you see the same issues with upstream Eclipse?[22:55:07] *** wainersm has quit IRC[22:55:15] <mbooth> Memory issues, I mean (aesthetic problems are less important in my eyes)[22:56:15] <jmspeex> mbooth: I've not tested on F22, but I'd previously tried downloading Eclipse from eclipse.org and since 4.x I've always had the "Eclipse is ugly" problem. F20 was the first time I saw Eclipse 4.x look right. I guess it was due to GTK2[22:56:48] <jmspeex> As for the memory issue, it's the first time I've encountered it, but then again this is the first time I've attempted to work at all with Eclipse using GTK3.[22:57:09] <jmspeex> As I said, it's beyond just ugly, there's a serious usability issue[23:01:06] *** LastTalon is now known as LastTalon|Away[23:05:12] *** gercan_off has quit IRC[23:05:24] *** inductiveload has quit IRC[23:08:02] *** bgardner has quit IRC[23:16:03] *** inductiveload has joined #eclipse[23:16:37] *** gercan_off has joined #eclipse[23:18:58] *** deSilva has joined #eclipse[23:23:03] *** paulweb515 has joined #eclipse[23:25:12] *** kottlett has quit IRC[23:29:11] *** justtobe has quit IRC[23:31:20] *** monk12_ has joined #eclipse[23:31:24] *** Rickmasta has joined #eclipse[23:43:16] *** kessel has quit IRC[23:44:04] *** kessel has joined #eclipse[23:47:57] *** vwegert has quit IRC[23:48:30] *** Haswell has joined #eclipse[23:48:42] *** Haswell has quit IRC[23:48:43] *** Haswell has joined #eclipse[23:52:15] *** NumberNoid is now known as zz_NumberNoid[23:54:14] *** Luben has quit IRC[23:57:15] *** gercan_off is now known as gercan[23:57:15] *** gercan has joined #eclipse