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[00:40:17] <loganRun> does anyone use the LaTex plugin for Eclipse?
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[00:41:10] <loganRun> I am still annoyed that there is no way for it to provide word choices when spelling errors are found with the spellcheck option
[00:41:25] <rcjsuen> Did you open a bug?
[00:41:28] <loganRun> wonder if there is any other option
[00:41:36] <loganRun> I don't think it is a bug
[00:45:20] <loganRun> it seems like they didn't enable the feature or something, which is strange since the standard editor has it
[00:45:39] <loganRun> no need to reinvent the wheel
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[00:46:46] <rcjsuen> well i suggest you inquire their suppotr channels for assistance then
[00:48:07] <loganRun> just thought I would check to see if anyone used it and had an alternative solution
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[01:57:49] <DeviceZer0> anyone have any suggestions on getting eclipse and egit to work properly? It either wont open my key or will just prompt me for user/pass(server is using ssh keys for git)
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[02:05:38] <rcjsuen> I suggest you ask for help on the forums
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[02:13:22] <g00s> hello. using 3.7.1 (fresh install) + JDT on mac os x 10.6.8. whenever i go to 'check for updates' the "Available Updates" dialog says "The operation can not be completed, see details"
[02:13:33] <g00s> ""Object Teams Patch for JDT/Core" is not applicable to the current configuration and will not be installed."
[02:13:51] <g00s> what is going on ? anybody know ?
[02:14:29] <rcjsuen> I'm not sure you'd have any updates to take if you have 3.7.1
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[02:16:28] <g00s> ill try reinstalling
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[02:22:30] <DeviceZer0> I made a project and am using git to share the project...however when i try to push to upstream...the "configure push to upstream" is grayed out...any ideas how i can set this up?
[02:26:16] <rcjsuen> DeviceZer0: Do you have a screenshot?
[02:27:34] <DeviceZer0> rcjsuen, sec.
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[02:33:14] <DeviceZer0> rcjsuen, http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/7354/eclipserdu.jpg
[02:33:49] <rcjsuen> I've never heard ppl say that menu item is disabled
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[02:35:41] <DeviceZer0> rcjsuen, the original git project was created locally...from within eclipse.
[02:35:42] <rcjsuen> Maybe it has no upstream I guess
[02:35:44] <rcjsuen> that would be possibly
[02:36:01] <DeviceZer0> rcjsuen, I dont see anywhere to set this
[02:36:02] <rcjsuen> if no remotes are configured then i guess there is no upstream
[02:36:15] <DeviceZer0> unless im completely overlooking something
[02:36:28] <rcjsuen> wel
[02:36:31] <rcjsuen> assuming what i say is even true
[02:36:35] <rcjsuen> i don't know, that's your repo, you would know
[02:37:10] <DeviceZer0> Is there a way to set remotes from inside eclipse?
[02:38:24] <DeviceZer0> i see a "fetch from"...but the local repo is the most upto date one...and the remote one is a blank repo. I dont want to set fetch from and have it download the blank repo and overwrite
[02:38:31] <rcjsuen> you'd set it up in the git repos view
[02:38:55] <rcjsuen> well when you fetch your working dir is not affected
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[02:44:10] <DeviceZer0> rcjsuen, hmm
[02:47:50] <DeviceZer0> rcjsuen, ok. I think I added it ok from under the repository view. Thanks :)
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[04:02:13] <vlcn> does anyone know how I might go about duplicating an entire project without eclipse puking?
[04:02:30] <CryWolf> I'm having trouble running a C++ project.  It builds fine, no errors, but when I run it, I get "/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14' not found".  I'm not sure where to look to figure this out.
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[04:09:59] <SARC> Greetings. I need some advice installing PDT for Eclipse. Do I need to install the php5 package, or do I also need php5-cli?
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[04:25:44] <SARC> I am having troubles getting PDT working with Zend.
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[04:53:48] <SARC> Does Eclipse support libapache2-mod-php5?  Or only php5-cgi?
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[05:02:49] <zabin> How do i tell eclipse to use my C++ makefile to build my project?
[05:03:13] <SARC> zabin, i don't think anybody's here :(
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[05:07:08] <SARC> PDT room is empty, so i thought someone in here could help
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[05:12:36] <SARC> I am a little confused on the documentation regarding php5 for the eclipse php devloper tools
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[05:14:35] <ron> zabin: your best bet regarding CDT is either to read the ~faq or the CDT's faq
[05:14:35] <Arbalest> Please see the FAQs http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Category:FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/The_Official_Eclipse_FAQs
[05:14:56] <ron> zabin: and if those don't help, you should probably use the ~forums
[05:14:57] <Arbalest> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/
[05:15:40] <zabin> thanks ron, i figured it out now i'm trying to figure out how to get ride of these semantic errors it fines. Though my program compiles fine.
[05:16:51] <zabin> if anyone has any idea how to fix this let me know.
[05:17:09] <ron> zabin: go to window->preferences. you should have something like CDT or C or C++ there, under it you should have something like Compiler->Errors/Warnings.
[05:18:42] <zabin> ron: sorry I'm not seeing that.
[05:18:50] <zabin> I don't see anything like Complier in there
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[05:19:21] <zabin> I see build
[05:19:35] <ron> zabin: okay, in window->preferences, you have a filter box at the top left corner. try typing 'error' in it, and see what comes up.
[05:19:54] <zabin> ron that is under java
[05:19:58] <zabin> this is c++
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[05:20:32] <brownphysicist> Hey.
[05:20:39] <ron> right, it can be under other things as well. depends on the plugin.
[05:20:57] <ron> zabin: you can also try searching the help.
[05:20:59] <zabin> Gotcha I've install the C++ version but it doesn't seem to have this setting.
[05:21:09] <zabin> zon yea i found this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/802410/why-does-eclipse-cdt-say-syntax-error-but-compilation-no-problem
[05:21:12] <brownphysicist> where can I find a good tutorial for java ee project development, such as the one that seems dated, found at http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/jst/components/j2ee/scenarios/jee5_application_creation_tutorial.html
[05:21:46] <SARC> Does "libapache2-mod-php5" work with Eclipse PHP Developer Tools?
[05:21:48] <brownphysicist> Or more specifically, where has the java persistance entities wizard gone?
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[05:25:15] <CryWolf> Ok, that's irksome.  I've figured out why I couldn't get C++ apps to run.  It's because gnat is in the path, and eclipse somehow picks that up automatically.
[05:26:23] <CryWolf> And there appears to be no way to remove it from the includes.
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[05:27:32] <ron> brownphysicist: http://programming.manessinger.com/tutorials/an-eclipse-glassfish-java-ee-6-tutorial/
[05:27:41] <brownphysicist> Thanks.
[05:28:28] <CryWolf> Is eclipse meant to be the only development tool on a machine?
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[05:29:52] <hackenschmidt> hey all, got a fun problem. If i have a lot of nls packs installed, eclipse takes a good while to load and when if does it doesn't show any perspectives. if i run it from the command line as 'eclipse -vmargs' it will load just fine, or if I remove some nls packs
[05:30:45] <ron> what's the question?
[05:31:23] <hackenschmidt> well, what is -vmargs doing by default/why does doing either of these fix it
[05:32:19] <SARC> Got Eclipse installed with Apache and I want to develop PHP. Does Eclipse only support CGI an CLI SAPIs? Or can I use apache2-mod-php5?
[05:32:38] <ron> what made you use -vmargs in the first place?
[05:34:10] <hackenschmidt> a user reported that running 'eclipse -vmargs -XX:MaxPermSize=256m' allowed it to launch. When i looked at the debug output i noticed that it was already being set at 256m by default so I just ran -vmargs and it work just the same as with the second option
[05:35:16] <ron> if you just run it with -vmargs and no extra arguments after it, it will have no effect whatsoever.
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[05:35:35] <hackenschmidt> haha, that's what i thought to, but for some reason it does
[05:35:47] <ron> it's just an illusion.
[05:35:51] <hackenschmidt> ok
[05:35:58] <hackenschmidt> but it really does
[05:36:04] <hackenschmidt> and the perspectives are there
[05:36:19] <ron> it's a placebo :)
[05:36:35] <hackenschmidt> lol no I'm serious. It's like a factor of 10
[05:36:53] <ron> ok :)
[05:36:55] <hackenschmidt> but it shouldn't be doing anything right?
[05:37:02] <ron> right.
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[05:38:58] <ron> the only difference it *may* have is that it clears the -vmargs you have in your eclipse.ini file, and it *could* be that those args give you hell.
[05:39:07] <ron> o/ mpiggott
[05:39:16] <mpiggott> ?
[05:39:29] <ron> it's a wave :p
[05:39:51] <hackenschmidt> ya
[05:39:55] <ron> \o/ <- victory!
[05:40:20] <hackenschmidt> so eclipse without anything takes over 2mins to load, with vmargs 10secs
[05:40:50] <ron> hackenschmidt: can you pastebin your eclipse.ini?
[05:40:51] <hackenschmidt> eclipse.ini, where's that floating around?
[05:42:05] <hackenschmidt> hum there are two
[05:42:42] <ron> there are two eclipse.ini in the same directory? :)
[05:43:52] <hackenschmidt> haha no, there's one in /etc/ /opt/eclipse and, and third i found out, in /usr/lib64/eclipse
[05:44:21] <ron> ugh. is that ubuntu with eclipse 3.5.2?
[05:44:33] <hackenschmidt> no, fedora with 3.6
[05:45:01] <ron> well, it *should* be in the same directory as the eclipse executable.
[05:45:11] <hackenschmidt> /usr/bin...?
[05:45:56] <ron> /usr/bin probably has a link to eclipse, not the executable itself.
[05:48:11] <hackenschmidt> http://pastebin.com/6m7d0AxB
[05:48:44] <ron> how much ram do you have on your machine?
[05:49:10] <hackenschmidt> hum the difference i see between the two commands it that time to load bundles increases from 3 to 5
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[05:50:18] <ron> hackenschmidt?
[05:50:21] <hackenschmidt> hum?
[05:50:32] <ron> how much ram do you have on your machine?
[05:50:46] <hackenschmidt> 4gigs
[05:52:06] <ron> right. change the params in eclipse.ini to -Xms512m and -Xmx1024m and try again. I need to take a shower, will check up on you when I get back,
[05:52:16] <hackenschmidt> k
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[05:55:58] <CryWolf> Looks like changing the PATH fixes my problem.  I guess I'll make a small script to set the path and run eclipse, and put that into the menu instead of putting eclipse directly in.
[05:56:25] <CryWolf> I wish I could have figured that out several hours ago.
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[06:05:50] <ron> hackenschmidt: anything?
[06:06:29] <hackenschmidt> nada, but i'm working on another lead. does vmargs read from the eclipse.ini file?
[06:07:22] <ron> ~eclipse.ini
[06:07:22] <Arbalest> Want to set startup flags for eclipse, like -vm, -vmargs, or -consolelog? Edit your eclipse.ini file. - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse.ini - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_How_do_I_run_Eclipse%3F#eclipse.ini
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[06:08:46] <hackenschmidt> this is it :-Dorg.eclipse.equinox.p2.reconciler.dropins.directory=/usr/share/eclipse/dropins
[06:08:48] <ron> hackenschmidt: follow those links. ^^
[06:08:56] <hackenschmidt> i meant -Dorg.eclipse.equinox.p2.reconciler.dropins.directory=/usr/share/eclipse/dropins
[06:09:35] <hackenschmidt> if i remove that line, everything runs great
[06:09:56] <ron> okay, that's great.
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[06:10:25] <ron> personally, I normally recommend people to download the eclipse package directly from eclipse.org rather than use their distro's version.
[06:10:38] <hackenschmidt> any idea what that does?
[06:10:40] <ron> in most distro's, they do funky things and the versions are outdated.
[06:11:03] <hackenschmidt> true that, but we have 400 machines and it's the middle of the semester
[06:11:08] <hackenschmidt> :D
[06:11:26] <ron> afaik, it tells eclipse to which directory you can put plugins to install outside from eclipse.
[06:11:32] <ron> just... drop it in.
[06:11:49] <hackenschmidt> werid
[06:11:58] <hackenschmidt> why is that freaking out....
[06:12:10] <ron> check the dir if it has anything in it.
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[06:13:01] <hackenschmidt> lots of stuff
[06:13:20] <hackenschmidt> including the nls packs
[06:13:22] <hackenschmidt> hum
[06:13:45] <ron> so every time eclipse loads up, it probably scans that dir to check whether there's something new to install.
[06:13:49] <ron> that's just a guess though.
[06:13:49] <SARC> Got Eclipse installed with Apache and I want to develop PHP. Does Eclipse only support CGI an CLI SAPIs? Or can I use apache2-mod-php5?
[06:13:55] <hackenschmidt> mine to
[06:14:05] <hackenschmidt> it runs faster with less nls packs installed
[06:14:28] <hackenschmidt> curious why it breaks down at a  point
[06:14:41] <hackenschmidt> 19 to be exact
[06:14:51] <hackenschmidt> #20 breaks everything
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[06:17:01] <hackenschmidt> well i'll just remove all the nls packs for now and open a ticket with eclipse
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[06:32:17] <hackenschmidt> ron, thanks a lot
[06:33:02] <ron> hackenschmidt: sure thing, though eventually I didn't do much :)
[06:33:17] <hackenschmidt> you pointed me in the right direction
[06:33:25] <hackenschmidt> seriously, thanks
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[08:47:49] <pulse00> hi all. what's the difference between eclipse 3.7 and 4.1? i always thought that 3.7.1 was the latest stable version as it's the one which is available on the download page
[08:48:00] <ron> it is.
[08:48:32] <pulse00> and 4.1.1 is the development version?
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[08:49:00] <ron> yeah.
[08:49:27] <pulse00> what about 3.8M2 ? ;)
[08:49:48] <ron> maintenance work.
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[08:51:26] <pulse00> so Juno will be the next release, which will have the version 4.2 ? or 3.8 ?
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[08:51:46] <ron> most likely 4.2
[08:51:55] <pulse00> i see, thanks
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[09:56:36] <jogla> Hi
[09:58:19] <jogla> Can I add a composite to a Sash?
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[10:10:15] <newman> Eclipse 4.1 freezes every time I right click on a file in a project(Package Explorer, Project explorer..). Anyone knows where to start checking for errors? I run eclipse from a terminal with no args but I get no output at all.
[10:12:02] <newman> The eclipsepedia irc faq mentions java vm logs, but not which files that would be.
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[10:14:59] <newman> Found the workspace metadata log now, would that be it?
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[11:02:05] <jwa> the eclipse color themes don't seem to work in indigo, all I get from the plugin is a selection of themes but I can't preview them nor import a new style (button's don't show up)
[11:02:11] <jwa> anyone with the same issue?
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[11:20:24] <pulse00> jwa: themer works fine here (3.7.1 / osx )
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[11:26:00] <jwa> pulse00: hm, what jdk/jre do you have?
[11:27:10] <pulse00> java version "1.6.0_26"
[11:27:10] <pulse00> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_26-b03-383-11A511)
[11:27:10] <pulse00> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.1-b02-383, mixed mode)
[11:28:02] <jwa> hmm yeah I'm on 1.7
[11:28:10] <jwa> might be the cause :<
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[12:11:31] <ron> newman: found the logs?
[12:11:58] <newman> ron: Nope, working on it.
[12:12:15] <ron> ~logs
[12:12:15] <Arbalest> Looking for your Eclipse logs? The workspace log should be located at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. In Eclipse, try Help > About > Installation Details > Configuration and then choose "View Error Log". If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[12:12:56] <ron> does that help?
[12:16:14] <newman> ron: If that contains jvm output then it does help :)
[12:16:34] <ron> check the links :)
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[12:30:45] <newman> Well.. Nothing too extreme in there, except perhaps for this line, "Unhandled URL protocol "platform"", which causes an exception. Can this be fixed? Do I have to worry at all? I don't know how serious that is..
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[12:32:55] <ron> two questions: 1. what do you mean by "freezes"? 2. any special reason you use eclipse 4.1?
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[12:35:12] <newman> ron: 1. It stops responding. Nothing disappears or anything, I can still move the mouse(it's just eclipse that freezes, not the os), but nothing happens when I hover over a menu with it, rightclick etc..
[12:36:09] <newman> 2: Nothing big, it's just that I've tried most versions now from 3.5 upwards and they all seem to behave the same way.
[12:36:34] <ron> well, if you have no specific reasons to use 4.1, I'd suggest using an official release.
[12:36:38] <ron> which OS are you on?
[12:37:18] <newman> ubuntu, which hasn't moved since 3.5
[12:37:40] <ron> have you tried Indigo?
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[12:38:52] <newman> ron: Yes. Galileo, Helios, Indigo and now 4.1.
[12:39:20] <ron> and Indigo has given you problems as well?
[12:39:54] <pulse00> can anyone recommend a not too complicated way to build a plugin into an eclipse product - not an rcp application ? i've tried tycho and buckminster, failed with both.
[12:40:16] <newman> ron: Yes. Same thing for all versions.
[12:40:51] <ron> newman: great. which java do you have installed?
[12:41:38] <newman> java version "1.6.0_26"  Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_26-b03)  Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.1-b02, mixed mode)
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[12:42:31] <ron> I see. Can you try installing openjdk and run it with that?
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[12:43:28] <ron> oh, and if you use Unity, I pity you.
[12:43:37] <ron> has absolutely no relevance, just wanted to say.
[12:43:37] <ron> :p
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[12:55:41] <newman> ron: Heh, actually I did remove Unity earlier. Even though I'm on a laptop. Anyway, added -vm ... and ran eclipse from command line. New workspace, managed to open a file :)!. But when I tried to exit Eclipse afterwards it seems to take forever(hasn't finished yet) saving workspace state. But the buttons in that window react to mouse hover,
[12:55:54] <newman> so I guess I shouldn't kill anything, yet.
[12:56:56] <ron> hmm
[12:57:00] <ron> that's odd.
[12:57:09] <newman> The progress information window says:
[12:57:53] <newman> Initializing Javascript tooling (blocked:.....)    Triggering validation after upgrade
[12:58:06] <ron> o_O
[12:58:12] <ron> sorry, not familiar with that.
[12:59:03] <newman> You pointed me to openjdk, which seems to work a lot better, so I'll forgive you :)
[12:59:11] <ron> hehe :p
[13:03:57] <ron> ooh... it's getting late. should eat lunch.
[13:05:31] <newman> Yep, same here. Oh, eclipse seems to have finished now :). Weird thing to be initializing a lot of things when exiting..
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[13:57:37] <Chris64> hi
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[13:58:41] <Chris64> do I need Eclipse 4.x to develop e4 applications? I get several package conflicts when trying to install E4 Tools and E4 UI Packages on Eclipse 4.1.1 and 4.2M2
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[13:59:38] <rcjsuen_> with a target platform you probably could do without Eclipse 4
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[14:08:05] <Chris64> Marketplace need to be installed separately in 3.7 Indigo?
[14:08:09] <Chris64> +s
[14:08:22] <mihael> hi, i want to call IHandlerService.executeCommand(id, event) but i "only" got for event a TypedEvent and an Event. Is there a simple way to get an Event from a TypedEvent (TypedEvent from Selectionlistener.widgetSelected)
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[14:10:12] <rcjsuen> Chris64: It's always not been included with the SDK. Assuming you have the SDK/Classic.
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[14:10:28] <rcjsuen> mihael: Just make a new Event yourself.
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[14:11:16] <Chris64> rcjsuen: oh, okay
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[14:12:37] <SARC> Got Eclipse installed with Apache and I want to develop PHP. Does Eclipse only support CGI an CLI SAPIs? Or can I use apache2-mod-php5?
[14:13:17] <Chris64> there is a Eclipse+Apache bundle available?
[14:13:34] <SARC> Got Eclipse installed with Apache and I want to develop PHP. Does Eclipse only support CGI an CLI SAPIs? Or can I use apache2-mod-php5?
[14:13:43] <Chris64> sounds interesting, is there a description/tutorial available?
[14:15:11] <Chris64> @sarc
[14:15:47] <SARC> i just installed apahce through apt-get
[14:15:54] <SARC> and eclipse manually
[14:16:08] <mihael> rcjsuen: ok trying that
[14:16:49] <SARC> then installed the php developer tools under help -> get new software
[14:16:59] <Chris64> SARC: why should eclipse have an influence on how the php script is executed? as far as i know it just starts the browser with the specified url
[14:17:23] <Chris64> so it's up to you how to configure apache and php
[14:17:31] <SARC> i know, but it gives you the choice of using different SAPIs, doesn't it?
[14:17:41] <SARC> (in eclipse)
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[14:19:55] <Chris64> don't think that there is a difference which needs to be obeyed by an IDE
[14:20:24] <Chris64> but I'm not up to date regarding PDT plugin
[14:20:50] <SARC> PDT asks for SAPI, too bad the PDT room is empty :(
[14:21:12] <rcjsuen> try the PDT forums at eclipse.org/forums
[14:21:20] <Chris64> ah okay, good to know :) thought it's a question if it asks for that
[14:21:20] <SARC> ok
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[14:22:42] <dcorbin_work> Something setting is Indigo is causing my first indent to sometimes be 8 spaces instead of 2.  I haven't found a Formatter setting that would do this.  Suggestions?
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[14:36:41] <nitind> SARC: And again, you don't have to repeat yourself.  No one was here 23 minutes ago that wasn't here 24 minutes ago.
[14:44:11] <SARC> Troubles installing eclipse plugins: pastebin.com/kx5LnRhy
[14:46:03] <rcjsuen> There is nothing in this paste.
[14:47:19] <SARC> Sorry: pastebin.com/kx5LnRhY
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[14:54:07] <SARC> rcjsuen?
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[14:57:15] <wolololo> Hi, if I add an breakpoint that "watches for modification" on a variable foo (that is of type Fooclass), will it only break on lines like foo = something; or also when any of the Fooclass'es variables that it contains changes?
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[15:02:41] <SARC> i guess my question was too challenging
[15:02:58] <Chris64> okay, I've now searched the marketplace of 3.7 for e4 plattform tools. Seems to me that there is no way to develop e4 Applications on Eclipse 3.7. Also I didn't saw any options which allow to specify a target platform :/
[15:03:49] <rcjsuen> Chris64: that should be in the documentation
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[15:20:57] <Chris64> rcjsuen: I'm afraid there is no documentation about how to develop e4 applications with Eclipse 3.7 Indigo. http://wiki.eclipse.org/E4/Install solely describes the installation on Eclipse 4.x
[15:21:17] <rcjsuen> Chris64: I'm referring to how to setup a target platform
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[15:25:22] <Chris64> rcjsuen: I'll try to setup one, thank you :)
[15:26:19] <rcjsuen> Chris64: Your problem is that you couldn't install e4 tools on 4.2M2?
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[15:32:48] <Chris64> rcjsuen: yes it is
[15:33:34] <rcjsuen> Chris64: I believe I was able to install the 0.11 GA e4 Tools .
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[15:35:49] <Chris64> rcjsuen: I did nothing more than downloading 4.1.1 and 4.2M2 and selecting E4 Tools and E4 UI for install which is blocked by dependency conflicts. I friend of mine has the same problem :|
[15:36:02] <SteveC> If I want to deploy jackrabbit in my eclipse debug server environment, where do I put the .war file ?  Tried in the root of the workspace and tried in the webapps directory of the Tomcat install, neither worked.
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[15:36:10] <SteveC> (or at least, neither autodeployed)
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[15:39:56] <Chris64> rcjsuen: Do you have some time to spare to install e4 tools again on a fresh Eclipse 4.2M2?
[15:40:06] <rcjsuen> Chris64: That's what I'm trying to do.
[15:48:24] <rcjsuen> I can kind of see why 4.2M2 doesn't work
[15:48:28] <rcjsuen> I'll see what's with 4.1.1
[15:48:34] <rcjsuen> I wouldn't expect the same error anyway
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[15:50:51] <Chris64> rcjsuen: Thank you very much for verifying it
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[15:54:08] <rcjsuen> I opened ~359237 and ~359238 and am going to test 4.1.1 now.
[15:54:10] <Arbalest> Bug 359237 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=359237 - Platform / Releng / 4.2 - PC / Windows XP - NEW / normal / - Assignee: platform-releng-inbox - e4 downloads page has dead links
[15:54:10] <Arbalest> Bug 359238 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=359238 - Platform / Releng / 4.2 - PC / Windows XP - NEW / normal / - Assignee: platform-releng-inbox - 0.12-I-builds update site has old content
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[15:59:22] <Chris64> rcjsuen: you did not get dependency conflicts on installation of e4 tools and e4 ui?
[15:59:31] <rcjsuen> Chris64: I also get that.
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[15:59:34] <Chris64> ah ok
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[15:59:50] <rcjsuen> Maybe when I installed the tools successfully I was using Eclipse 4.1 GA.
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[16:00:16] <rcjsuen> but yes 4.1.1 also fails
[16:00:23] <rcjsuen> both appears to  be the EMF problem
[16:01:08] <rcjsuen> Chris64: Do you actually need the e4 tools bridge?
[16:01:13] <rcjsuen> if you just install the e4 tools that should work
[16:01:32] <soc42> hi #eclipse
[16:01:34] <soc42> i'm having some trouble with file encodings...
[16:02:16] <soc42> a web-project running on a windows machine, got checked into git, now i try to open the project files on a mac eclipse indigo and some special characters are broken or beeing displayed as ?
[16:02:37] <Chris64> rcjsuen: no, but there was another conflict. with which version it should work?
[16:03:28] <soc42> i thought i was perhaps while first transferring the files from the windows to the mac machine and then checked into git
[16:03:35] <soc42> +t
[16:04:20] <soc42> but gave it another try and created the git repo on windows and now clone to the mac machine opening the file gives me strange characters
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[16:04:53] <rcjsuen> Chris64: For both 4.2M2 and 4.1.1, if you select 'E4 Tools > Eclipse e4 Tools (Incubation)' from the http://download.eclipse.org/e4/updates/0.11 update site you should not get a dependency error.
[16:04:55] <soc42> the default settings on the mac machine are utf-8
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[16:05:10] <Neikius> Hello, I know I am a bit offtopic with this, but anyone here has experience debugging eclipse+glassfish stuff?
[16:05:16] <Chris64> soc42: did you check file encoding options in project settings? on windows I had another encoding than utf8 on 3.6
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[16:06:19] <soc42> yes, there are utf-8, us-ascii, iso-8859-1 and some more utf-variants... but none of them seem to work
[16:06:25] <Neikius> To put things in words - my breakpoints are hit in debug mode, but I don't get anything else besides that - it never properly moves into debug mode just hangs at the breakpoint hit. Almost looks like eclipse can't get additional data on the internal server state
[16:06:53] <soc42> ups, i though i tried it, but the "ISO-8850-1" seem to work
[16:08:01] <soc42> so to set this file encoding as project-specific helps...
[16:08:08] <Chris64> rcjsuen: there was a conflict in E4 UI package too, the tutorial at http://www.vogella.de/articles/EclipseE4/article.html#installation required them
[16:08:40] <rcjsuen> Chris64: Personally I don't understand what Lars added those.
[16:08:46] <Chris64> I'll check which was it in detail
[16:08:53] <rcjsuen> Because that's alrdy included in the SDK.
[16:09:13] <Chris64> okay, then I'll try to install E4 tools only without bridge
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[16:10:34] <zabin> I have an eclipse c++ question. It seems like when I click build project eclipse runs all the makefiles in my project. I just want it to run the top level make.
[16:10:54] <Chris64> sorry got disconnected after "[16:08:16] <Chris64> okay, then I'll try to install E4 tools only without bridge"
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[16:11:47] <rcjsuen> Chris64: I also see the error but I think you can ignore that one because it is alrdy in the build.
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[16:12:25] <zabin> anyone use eclipse for C++ ?
[16:12:51] <soc42> sorry, nope not atm
[16:13:52] <Neikius> so anybody using glassfish + eclipse got debugging working?
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[16:18:40] <Chris64> rcjsuen: there is a problem with the project wizard, second page for e4 application is empty, sorry that it took some time to respond, extracted a fresh install of eclipse4 :/
[16:19:19] <Chris64> is this problem occuring there too? (hope you did not delete the install :/)
[16:19:45] <rcjsuen> I don't use that wizard so I don't know.
[16:19:52] <zabin> Anyone know how to specify the makefile i want to use for eclipse?
[16:21:57] <Chris64> rcjsuen: so the alternative to the wizard is a custom target platform?
[16:22:26] <zabin> got it nvm
[16:22:28] <rcjsuen> no that wouldn't change this aspect of programming
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[16:23:01] <Chris64> rcjsuen: or are you not developing e4 applications?
[16:23:42] <Quutar> wierd question... anybody know why an app i wrote that used JNative might work inside of eclipse, but fail outside of eclipse?
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[16:26:00] <rcjsuen> Chris64: yes/no, I work on Eclipse 4
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[16:27:03] <SpecialEmily> why the hell is it that when I create a new freakin HTML file in a package it decides in all its damn wisdom to put it in /resources?
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[16:27:33] <rcjsuen> Chris64: All three pages of my wizard has stuff in it
[16:27:36] <rcjsuen> Chris64: i tried with 4.1.1
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[16:31:14] <Smashcat> Hi, I've got a problem with Eclipse crashing out when trying to edit an XML file that Eclipse saved in an Android project
[16:31:35] <rcjsuen> What if you edit XML files that aren't in an Android project?
[16:31:36] <Smashcat> I'm on version 3.7.0
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[16:32:54] <Smashcat> I only have files in the android projects here at the moment - the crash is caused by  an "Illegal UTF8 character" apparently. Although it's happening in any XML file in the projects I have
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[16:33:55] <rcjsuen> Find a VM crash log
[16:34:18] <Smashcat> "Illegal UTF8 string in constan pool in class org/eclipse/wst/xml/core/internal/document/StructuredDocumentRegionManagementException
[16:35:00] <rcjsuen> I don't see how this would kill Eclipse though.
[16:35:19] <Smashcat> It just crashes the editor - Eclipse is still running
[16:35:36] <rcjsuen> oh okay "Eclipse crashing out" != Eclipse crashing
[16:36:08] <rcjsuen> sounds like something wrong with the compiler or the VM I guess
[16:36:12] <Smashcat> well, fair enough - still the end result is the same for me = unusable ;-)
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[16:38:00] <Smashcat> Hmm, I think I saw this happen a while ago - eclipse corrupted a project and from that point on would not open XML files in the project. I had to delete the project from eclipse then restore from backup I think. Ah well
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[16:41:39] <SpecialEmily> seriously, I would really like to know why eclipse is sticking my HTML files in the wrong place when I create them
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[16:44:15] <Chris64> rcjsuen: my partner for the project runs 4.2m2 on ubuntu and cannot access the second page of e4 application project wizard. I'm on Windows and get additionally an empty first page where I should enter project name
[16:44:52] <Chris64> He's able to create any other projects but e4 application not
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[16:45:40] <Chris64> I've non existant forms for project name on nearly all projects, only new Class wizard seems to be complete
[16:47:17] <SteveC> Any clue why the jackrabbit 1.4 war won't deploy to my tomcat 6 server (in an eclipse debug environment) ?  It's erroring with, "The server does not support version 3.0 of the J2EE Web module specification."
[16:48:46] <nitind> SpecialEmily: Wrong place?  It's not going into the container that the wizard indicates?
[16:48:57] <nitind> SpecialEmily: By container I mean folder.
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[16:51:39] <soc42> hi eclipses
[16:52:09] <soc42> what about integrating/developing SQL within eclipse...
[16:53:22] <soc42> how can i find out more about developing T-SQL against a MS SQL SERVER within an eclipse project?
[16:53:40] <Chris64> rcjsuen: "e4/Model/New Application Model" and "e4/Class/New Addon Class" Wizards seems to be complete too :| I'll check 4.1.1 now
[16:53:51] <rcjsuen> You mean incomplete?
[16:53:53] <soc42> does DTP do the trick, like offering e.g. auto-complete?
[16:53:57] <Chris64> no
[16:54:10] <Chris64> "too" was wrong, sorry
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[17:04:42] <rcjsuen> Chris64: the wizard doesn't work on 4.2 because of a bug
[17:04:58] * ron gasps
[17:05:02] <ron> impossible!
[17:05:39] <Chris64> rcjsuen: okay, I'll try to use the bugtracker next time, thank you for your help :)
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[17:06:01] <zabin> Hello, is there a way to figure out why I have a red x over one of my .cpp project files?
[17:06:12] <zabin> When I look at the file it looks fine no bug mark
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[17:08:36] <ron> zabin: Window->Show View->Markers
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[17:12:35] <zabin> ron I don't have markers there ?
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[17:14:08] <SARC> I am switching to komodo.
[17:14:17] <rcjsuen> zabin: go to Other...
[17:15:21] <zabin> got it thanks
[17:15:37] <zabin> Got to figure out how to resolve these semantic errors. It doesn't like getopt_long
[17:16:16] <zabin> I've read I need to add /usr/local to project path any idea where that is done at?
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[17:16:45] <zabin> nvm found it.
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[17:17:46] <zabin> Hmm any idea why it says it can resolve getopt_long? This is in /usr/include
[17:17:53] <zabin> the program compiles fine.
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[17:18:30] <zabin> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/t/238953/ <-- never was answered though
[17:19:37] <nitind> Why would getopt_long() be resolved?
[17:20:18] <nitind> zabin: For that matter, what's the *exact* error message, and what do you do to get it?
[17:20:42] <zabin> nitind: "Function 'getopt_long' could not be resolved
[17:20:51] <nitind> zabin: When you do what?
[17:21:09] <zabin> ?
[17:21:20] <zabin> I'm including getopt.h
[17:21:25] <zabin> The program compiles fine
[17:21:44] <zabin> I'm not sure why eclipse can't resolve it.
[17:23:05] <zabin> nitind: any idea?
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[17:25:26] <zabin> I just did Preferences->c/c++->code analysis and unchecked function cannot be resolved from the systax and semantic errors.
[17:25:44] <zabin> That seemed to do it but it would be nice if I didn't have to make that change.
[17:25:52] <Chris64> just to be sure that I got everything right.. Is it possible to develop eclipse4 plugins with eclipse 3.6 or not?
[17:26:04] <rcjsuen> Chris64: In my opinion yes.
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[17:26:41] <Chris64> rcjsuen: via Target Platform?
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[17:27:08] <rcjsuen> That's how people develop for diff Eclipse versions
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[17:28:58] <Chris64> okay, thanks again :)
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[17:34:00] <mwolf9> Hello, I am trying to create a standalone Java app with embedded Jetty with JSP support. I can find the Jetty aggregate all jar but i cannot find the servlet api jar. Can someone direct me to the location of this jar for the latest jetty release.
[17:34:09] <PenguinMan98> what is the line in the file .settings/org.eclipse.php.core.prefs -> include_path=0;/php_sites for?  Should I change this to anything?
[17:34:38] <PenguinMan98> The oracle of Google hasn't turned anything up yet
[17:34:59] <rcjsuen> .settings/ files aren't for the user to change manually generally speaking.
[17:37:12] <PenguinMan98> very well.  Is there a way to tell eclipse to exclude the .settings folder from project wide searches?
[17:37:45] <nitind> Chris64: For the purposes of simplification, yes, you can develop e4 plug-ins without running on e4 itself, but it's just simpler to use e4 itself for that.
[17:37:46] <rcjsuen> I thought it was alrdy exclueded
[17:38:09] <rcjsuen> Nope, guess not
[17:38:18] <nitind> PenguinMan98: What kind of searches?
[17:38:53] <PenguinMan98> just a simple search.  You highlight text, then go 'search' -> 'text' -> project'
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[17:43:56] <aneveux> Hi everybody! Does anyone know how to invoke programmaticaly the New Class Wizard from an Eclipse plug-in please ? I just like to display to the user this wizard and add some information in it (like an already selected interface to implement). Does it sound familiar to anyone ?
[17:44:35] <rcjsuen> invoke the new wiz handler + param id == new class wiz id
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[17:46:03] <aneveux> I'm sorry I didn't understand what you suggest :s I don't know how to find this wizard handler in fact ? Is it in jdt core ?
[17:46:18] <nitind> Wizards are UI.
[17:46:58] <rcjsuen> I guess in this case I should've said invoke the new wizard command
[17:47:03] <ron> Wizards are people like you and me.
[17:47:09] <rcjsuen> use IHandlerService + ParameterizedCommand
[17:48:13] <PenguinMan98> A wizard is never late.  He arrives precisely when he means to
[17:48:37] <Taldor> Hi, I fiddled with my eclipse settings and now the external tools button is gone. could someone please remind me how to enable then again? It's not available under tool bar visibility > launch
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[17:59:16] <aneveux> Thanks all for your answers, I made some researchs on google using the keywords you used in your answers, and finished by finding this: http://torkildr.blogspot.com/2010/07/invoking-eclipse-wizard.html I guess it's what I have to use
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[18:00:32] <rcjsuen> that's one way to do it
[18:00:35] <rcjsuen> but not the way i was describing
[18:00:42] <aneveux> oh sorry :s
[18:00:51] <aneveux> I'm not really familiar with Eclipse APIs in fact
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[18:01:19] <aneveux> so I searched about IHandlerService, but I didn't find anything that looks like what I'm trying to do
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[18:08:02] <flupke> hello, absolute beginner with eclipse here, I want to add a library to an android project (jmdns.jar), how can I do that ?
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[18:15:44] <Emperorlou_> I'm using the GWT plugin and for some reason, my server side classes are not showing up in my war folder! Where are the settings that I can look at to ensure things are pointing to the right places?
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[18:20:38] <Emperorlou_> Ok how about this...where do I setup j2ee/jee module dependencies?
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[18:25:16] <solars> hey, what code metrics tool do people recommend for java?
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[18:33:12] <SARC> Anyone here that can help me with setting up a php project in eclipse?
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[18:44:50] <joakime> is download.eclipse.org down for anyone else?
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[18:54:08] <pulse00> joakime: works for me
[18:55:52] <joakime> pulse00: looks like others are experiencing it as well ... https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=359274
[18:56:18] <joakime> either that, or things are just flaky right now.
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[19:18:53] <mpiggott> joakime: not sure if it is a typo on your part but its downloadS.eclipse.org
[19:19:27] <Emperorlou_> anyone here familiar with the GWT plugin?
[19:19:42] <Emperorlou_> Why is there no possibility to add server-side PROJECT dependencies??
[19:19:55] <Emperorlou_> I know I can add jar files but
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[19:27:26] <mpiggott> Emperorlou_: I don't think the GWT plugin is very sophisticated when it comes to the classpath unfortunately
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[20:02:53] <nbf> http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/eclipse/
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[20:03:10] <nbf> http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/eclipse/
[20:03:27] <nbf> ubuntu included that with the new app developer site
[20:03:43] <nbf> kind of cool but also kind of bad because historically eclipse from apt has been horribly broken
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[20:04:58] <WASD_> Hello. I'm about to download eclipse but I'm not sure which one of the packages to choose. I'm gonna develop Python, Java and C++.
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[20:12:19] <rcjsuen> WASD_: I doubt it really matters. You'd just pick one and install them as plug-ins.
[20:12:35] <rcjsuen> They would present a problem if one had a hard dependency on conflicting Eclipse versions, which I guess may or may not happen.
[20:13:16] <WASD_> I was gonna take Eclipse Classic but the file size made me suspect. About 50% bigger than the Java or C++ package
[20:13:27] <rcjsuen> WASD_: It's because it includes source code.
[20:13:43] <WASD_> ah
[20:13:52] <rcjsuen> nbf: Well, they may eventually get enough complaints to take it down then. ;o
[20:14:01] <WASD_> I'll just take the C++ version then. Thanks rcjsuen
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[21:03:08] <Smilex> http://codepad.org/e7yURmre <- I'm getting this error when trying to launch eclipse. It's a stand-alone version for Linux, and not the one from the Software Center on Ubuntu
[21:03:33] <rcjsuen> ~info
[21:03:34] <Arbalest> Please state a) your CPU architecture (x86, 64-bit, etc.), b) operating system (Windows, Linux, OSX, etc.), c) your Java runtime environment (please verify by checking your ~logs or in the about dialog's ~jre section. No, typing 'java -version' in the command line does not count as checking), d) your Eclipse version, and e) where did you get Eclipse from (eclipse.org [if so, exactly which file you downloaded], distro repository, etc.)
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[21:06:53] <Smilex> x86, Ubuntu Linux, JRE 6 (I believe), eclipse equinox, http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/epp/downloads/release/indigo/SR1/eclipse-java-indigo-SR1-linux-gtk.tar.gz
[21:07:30] <rcjsuen> $ /usr/bin/java -version
[21:10:19] <Smilex> http://codepad.org/ZLPoqZ3u
[21:11:09] <rcjsuen> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b11, mixed mode)
[21:11:19] <rcjsuen> I'm surprised you have an x86 cpu architecture but using a 64-bit JVM
[21:12:14] <rcjsuen> Though at the end of the day x86 could be 64-bit, perhaps we need to be more clear in our request for CPU architectures.
[21:12:15] <Smilex> I only had the installation disk for x86
[21:12:30] <Smilex> no, it's 32bit I believe
[21:12:44] <rcjsuen> If you have 32-bit you would not be able to run a 64-bit JVM.
[21:12:53] <rcjsuen> anyway, JVM == eclipse
[21:12:58] <rcjsuen> you have a 32-bit eclipse and a 64-bit jvm
[21:13:02] <rcjsuen> resolve this
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[21:13:44] <Smilex> do you by any chance know a way to see my arcitecture on Ubuntu?
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[21:15:51] <rcjsuen> $ uname
[21:16:09] <rcjsuen> if not enough $ uname -p
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[21:18:52] <Smilex> yeah it was x86_64, which supposedly is 64bit
[21:20:59] <Smilex> thanks for your time though
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[21:47:02] <AlecTaylor> hi
[21:47:04] <AlecTaylor> Does anyone here know how to draw class diagrams? - I'm from the world of database design, and am having some trouble. Do I show connections between the users class and the inventory class?
[21:50:08] <mpiggott> AlecTaylor: UML?
[21:50:49] <danols_work> ok is there NOWAY to drag and drop for remote system explorer to a windows desktop or folder ?
[21:51:18] <AlecTaylor> mpiggott: yeah
[21:51:19] <nitind> danols_work: Did you find documentation saying that was possible?
[21:51:29] <danols_work> no
[21:51:45] <danols_work> but it should be so obvious to support that in my humble opinion
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[21:51:54] <danols_work> rather than using the 'export' option
[21:53:29] <danols_work> actually it's supposed to be supported http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/How_to_setup_Remote_System_Explorer_plug-in
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[21:58:06] <nitind> danols_work: I expect it was referring to files in the workspace, like from the Project Explorer or Navigator views.
[21:59:07] <danols_work> well I can drag and drop form desktop into my remote explorer view -- but not the other way around --- found finally a work around -- using the 'Local Host' connection in my remote explorer view and navigating to my desktop
[21:59:25] <danols_work> so from Windows > RSE works
[21:59:29] <danols_work> but not RSE > Widnows
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[22:02:08] <nitind> danols_work: If it's still being worked on, I'm sure they'll take high-quality patches to make that work.
[22:04:46] <rcjsuen> Just because a feature is obvious doesn't mean it's easy to implement :)
[22:08:42] <danols_work> yes
[22:08:43] <danols_work> true
[22:08:58] <danols_work> well I figure out the Local work around and I can live with it --- funny it took me a year :(
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[22:11:38] <optimusM> can someone help me
[22:12:20] <optimusM> im making a app. and using html coding how do i make the app be redircted to a download using html coding
[22:13:10] <rcjsuen> What does this have to do with Eclipse?
[22:13:57] <nitind> Representing the remote objects as files during the drag out of Eclipse is probably a performance-killer, but what do I know.
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[23:55:44] <johntramp> hi. why would everything under project->make target be grayed out for me?
[23:56:12] <johntramp> this is a CDT project
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