[00:05:32] <myusuf3__> quick question about config.ini
[00:05:38] <myusuf3__> how is it created!
[00:05:43] <myusuf3__> ?
[00:06:08] <PenguinMan98> I'm so confused.  I was hoping the eclipse interface for git would be a lot like the one for SVN  I am dissapoint.
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[00:35:09] <rcjsuen> PenguinMan98: Git isn't really the same as SVN
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[00:36:18] <PenguinMan98> rcjsuen: I've noticed
[00:37:05] <PenguinMan98> rcjsuen: I was just hoping eclipse would have some kind of shared dialogue between the two that would make switching between them easier
[00:37:35] <rcjsuen> "shared dialogue"?
[00:37:56] <rcjsuen> well they're separate plug-ins so I wouldn't expect them to exactly integrate with one another
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[00:41:03] <PenguinMan98> I'm not saying integrate, just have some common interfaces
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[00:41:45] <PenguinMan98> if on svn I can right click on a directory in the repository and find team->checkout, I would expect something similar with git
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[00:44:31] <PenguinMan98> but alas, such is not the case.  I will learn
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[01:05:00] <rcjsuen> it's similar if you were using CVS
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[01:21:58] <LinAsh> Hi, my EMF-related question : I'm trying to set "Operation Reflection" to true on my genmodel file but it reverts to false automatically... any idea ?
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[02:40:39] <davo> if i have a newer tomcat server version installed in my linux system than the version eclipse sees in Preferences->Server->Runtime Environments, is there a way to tell eclipse about it?
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[04:48:49] <nitind> davo: ~tomcat-faq
[04:48:50] <Arbalest> Trying to the tame the wild Apache Tomcat while using the reins of the Eclipse Web Tools Platform? Our friendly FAQ may be just what you need - http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Tomcat_FAQ
[04:49:18] <nitind> davo: Short answer: no.  Slightly longer answer: download the tarball for that release from Apache.
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[05:32:39] <davo> thanks nitind. if short answer 'no', what would i do with the tarball release i download?
[05:33:55] <davo> i guess what i'm trying to figure out is can i 'define a new server runtime environment' that's not listed in the 'New server runtime environment' dialog?
[05:34:21] <davo> i'm thinking it might be something like http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Tomcat_FAQ#Why_won.27t_the_New_Server_Runtime_dialog_recognize_my_Linux_installed_version_of_Tomcat.3F
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[07:15:06] <diverdude> Hello. I have a very large project true with lots of subfolders and files, so whenever i have to find a File or Directory i have to browse my way through the whole project-tree which takes time and is cumbersome. Is there some way i can use to quickly filter the directory tree by writing parts of the filename? Like when i Write P, only dirs and files with P are showing. Then i press r and it now says Pr and only dirs and files starting with Pr
[07:15:06] <diverdude> are shown...and so on. Is there such a plugin or functionality or similar available?
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[07:15:58] <ron> which language?
[07:17:03] <diverdude> ron, englisg
[07:17:06] <diverdude> english
[07:17:20] <ron> umm, which development language.
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[07:17:38] <diverdude> ohh hehe :D
[07:17:40] <diverdude> php
[07:18:10] <diverdude> ahh CTRL+SHIFT+R
[07:18:13] <ron> well, I don't know about PDT shortcuts. take a look at ~keys
[07:18:13] <Arbalest> For a list of available key bindings press Ctrl + Shift + L. To configure your key bindings, press Ctrl + Shift + L twice or see Window > Preference > General > Keys. See also http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#What.27s_the_key_for_....3F
[07:19:38] <ron> you can also try ctrl+shift+t though I don't know if it'd work in PDT.
[07:20:31] <diverdude> what is difference btwn ctrl shift t and ctrl shift r?
[07:21:24] <ron> r opens any resource available. t opens types only - in Java it means classes, interfaces, enums, etc...
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[09:40:04] <_WOPR_> Is it possible to change the selection in a TreeViewer via double click only?
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[10:13:22] <Crusher4> totally OT for this chan(probably), but does anyone know of a good tool to generate a class hierarchy diagram for a java project?
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[10:14:14] <chaozer> anyone in here good with jgit ? ;)
[10:16:19] <chaozer> im trying to checkout a sha-1 with CheckoutCommand, it silently suceeds but doesn't do anything .. and the status is set to "OK".
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[10:28:29] <Crusher4> how do you clear out the warnings/errors produced by rightclicking on an object and selecting validate, unlike java errors, cleaning the project does not reset them
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[10:57:37] <zlr> Is it possible to disable caching in EclipseLink for commits but enabling it for queryresults?
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[11:16:38] <ernstp> Having problems with the update repository on Ubuntu as mentioned in the FAQ
[11:17:11] <ernstp> but the solutions mentioned in the Ubuntu bug doesn't work, and I wonder if http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/updates/3.5/ shouldn't show me an xml file?
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[11:26:27] <ernstp> can anyone else find new software from the eclipse repositories?
[11:28:39] <adamgolding> I can't get this eclipse plugin to work: http://sewiki.iai.uni-bonn.de/research/pdt/start
[11:28:44] <adamgolding> the console window is just grey
[11:39:31] <ron> Crusher4: there are a few eclipse plugins out there, but you should think whether you really want to do that.
[11:40:18] <ron> ernstp: just download from eclipse.org and extract.
[11:41:08] <ron> adamgolding: you should ask in the plugin's forums or whatnot.
[11:41:24] <adamgolding> ron: yeah it's not too widely used :p
[11:41:36] <adamgolding> but I'm playing with reverting some components to 32-bit versions now
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[12:21:45] <pulse00> adamgolding: check the .metadata/.log file in your workspace. maybe there's some stacktraces in there you can send to the authors of the plugin
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[13:13:09] <pulse00> can anyone recommend an autocompletion component for swt ?
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[13:32:46] <nitind> A what?
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[13:40:39] <pulse00> this: http://help.eclipse.org/galileo/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/jface/fieldassist/AutoCompleteField.html
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[13:47:35] <ron> nitind: I normally try not to address you directly, but can you please check out this error: http://pastebin.com/hvNQ6EHY ?
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[13:50:19] <mihael> pulse00: do you need this for your own application?
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[13:55:51] <pulse00> mihael: what do you mean with "own application" ?
[13:56:03] <mihael> pulse00: own eclipse rcp app?
[13:56:40] <pulse00> yes.
[13:57:34] <mihael> pulse00: where is the problem with the jface impl?
[13:57:48] * mihael didn't know that there was such a component
[13:58:52] <pulse00> there is no problem. i just found the jface implementation. works perfectly
[13:59:20] <mihael> pulse00: thanx for mentioning this control. seems that i need it in the near future.
[14:00:02] <pulse00> np ;)
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[14:52:55] <kesselhaus_> http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops4/R-4.1.1-201109121510/results/testResults.html  - Is that really even worth to be named "release"?
[14:54:53] <ron> how is it it named 'release'?
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[14:57:52] <kesselhaus_> ron: yeah, look at the eclipse downloads, latest releases .. 4.1.1 is the latest release
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[14:58:29] <ron> 4.1.1 release of _what_?
[14:59:08] <kesselhaus_> eclipse? what else?
[14:59:10] <rcjsuen> I believe the test machines were hung that day. But you're right, it reflects poorly on us.
[14:59:32] <ron> there's no 4.1.1 release of eclipse in www.eclipse.org/downloads
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[15:00:05] <kesselhaus_> ron: there's a link to 4.x releases (and back to 3.x)
[15:00:29] <kesselhaus_> s/releases/downloads/
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[15:01:16] <ron> I must be blind :-/
[15:01:40] <ron> my firefox can't find "4.1" in that page anywhere as well.
[15:01:45] <kesselhaus_> well, project related download page of eclipse platofrm
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[15:03:12] <ron> aah, no I see it.
[15:04:09] <ron> s/no/now
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[15:05:02] <kesselhaus_> rcjsuen: so, i take it from the platform page and cdt, they still create a 3.8 branch ;)
[15:05:10] <rcjsuen> kesselhaus_: What do you mean
[15:05:44] <kesselhaus_> well, the first impressions of 4.1 goals looked not suitable for plugins like cdt?
[15:05:55] <kesselhaus_> 4.x goals ..
[15:06:23] <rcjsuen> People have used CDT on 4.x, I haven't heard many complaints from them.
[15:07:13] <ron> I don't understand the development of 4.x and 3.x alongside.
[15:08:19] <rcjsuen> It's the same reason any other software project has two development streams. To support older users that aren't migrating.
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[15:10:50] <ron> but I suspect that 4.x is newer then 3.x, yet the release train each year is still based off on 3.x.
[15:11:01] <rcjsuen> For Juno it will be based on 4.x.
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[15:17:09] <ron> okay, and 3.8 is still being developed...
[15:17:58] <rcjsuen> ron: yes/no, the UI team isn't working on much 3.8 stuff
[15:18:09] <rcjsuen> the other teams are writing code that would work in both streams
[15:18:33] <rcjsuen> but yes, 3.8 is still built regularly
[15:21:03] <ron> the bug I opened (which is a UI issue) was just set to 3.8M3. I'm sorry, it just confuses me a bit.
[15:21:27] <rcjsuen> ron: which one
[15:23:03] <ron> ~341808
[15:23:04] <Arbalest> Bug 341808 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=341808 - Platform / Text / 3.6.2 - All / All - ASSIGNED / enhancement / - Assignee: raksha.vasisht - [api][rulers][preferences] Add preference that allows to disable Overview ruler color wash out
[15:24:00] <rcjsuen> ron: That's the Text team, their code would work in both
[15:25:21] <rcjsuen> there's also ~312159
[15:25:22] <Arbalest> Bug 312159 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=312159 - JDT / Text / 3.5 - All / All - ASSIGNED / normal / - Assignee: raksha.vasisht - [rulers] Color blindness issue with red and gray Xs for markers in vertical ruler
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[15:36:07] <ron> rcjsuen: well, my bug is cooler.
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[15:42:49] <ron> I'm actually curious to see what changes 4.x brings.
[15:43:15] <rcjsuen> from an Eclipse user pov, probably not much
[15:43:19] <rcjsuen> unless you want to style your Eclipse
[15:43:21] <rcjsuen> or detach your editors
[15:43:27] <rcjsuen> (or put views where your editors are)
[15:44:36] <ron> I noticed there's a fade effect added.
[15:44:46] <rcjsuen> You can turn that off if you want
[15:45:00] <rcjsuen> and provide feedback here ~357282
[15:45:01] <Arbalest> Bug 357282 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=357282 - Platform / UI / 4.2 - PC / Windows XP - NEW / normal / - Assignee: emoffatt - Provide fading feedback for large screen operations
[15:45:17] <ron> well, the styling feature is important, imho.
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[16:25:21] <computeiro> hi, I'm using IStorageEditorInput to open a String in a IWorkbenchPage... it's Work, but I'm using  [IWorkbenchPage]openEditor(myStringStorage, "org.eclipse.ui.DefaultTextEditor"); and it's open in a simple text editor. How open this in a .sql editor for example?
[16:26:53] <computeiro> Reference: http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_How_do_I_open_an_editor_on_something_that_is_not_a_file%3F
[16:28:25] <rgrunber> computeiro: you would probably need to find the editorid for the sql editor
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[16:29:01] <rcjsuen> what Roland said
[16:29:13] <computeiro> rgrunber: I find for this
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[16:30:36] <rgrunber> computeiro: if you have the sql plugin that provides the editor installed .. you could try looking for classes that extend/implement TextEditor.. or an EditorPart.. and hope they list the id somewhere :P
[16:32:42] <nitind> rgrunber: Well, it would have to be in the plugin.xml.
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[16:34:05] <rgrunber> nitind: ah yeah, i guess that's true. was hoping on the off chance some classes list the id's as static finals or whatnot. :P
[16:34:41] <rgrunber> computeiro: .. http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_How_do_I_open_an_editor_programmatically%3F look at the first example.. that i believe gets the default editor id for a filename.. i'm guessing the sql editor should open for *.sql
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[16:36:35] <computeiro> rgrunber: I see thats resource, but I don't open a File, I'm open a "String" (using IStorageEditorInput )
[16:37:12] <computeiro> I'm find for a sql editor ID for replace in : openEditor(myStringStorage, "org.eclipse.ui.DefaultTextEditor")
[16:37:32] <rgrunber> computeiro: ah, i mean try running that code creating some dummy sql file to see what the editor id is.. then you can probably hard code it in as needed.
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[16:41:32] <nitind> computeiro: Or check the other methods on the IWorkbenchPage class it mentions.
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[16:44:30] <computeiro> Sucessful: I use the openEditor(input, "org.eclipse.datatools.sqltools.sqleditor.SQLEditor");
[16:44:35] <computeiro> Thank's guy
[16:44:51] <computeiro> sorry by my english
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[17:25:41] <perlsyntax> I working on a c project and i want to put a perl program in my main c project can i do this?
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[17:27:24] <perlsyntax> i hope it can be done.
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[17:36:50] <soc42> hi #eclipse
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[17:37:21] <soc42> what database plugin can you suggest to work with mssql server?
[17:37:48] <Gurkenglas> Question about working in Eclipse with Processing: I followed http://processing.org/learning/eclipse/ up to step for, but Eclipse shows Errors saying all those identifiers used in the code example not to be defined
[17:37:53] <Gurkenglas> What could be the problem?
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[17:39:47] <Gurkenglas> wheeps. nevermind.
[17:40:05] <Gurkenglas> How come those solutions always show up right after i ask in IRC
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[18:10:01] <myusuf3__> when you build an rcp app
[18:10:17] <myusuf3__> how do you edit the config.ini
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[18:29:21] <mfilipe> hi! I'm using eclipse-3.5.2 and I want create a PHP Project of from existing sources but I get this error: "Cannot create project content in workspace."
[18:29:23] <mfilipe> why?
[18:29:33] <mfilipe> the eclipse has permission in filesystem to create
[18:29:44] <ron> why do you use 3.5.2?
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[18:32:34] <mfilipe> ron, I'm using ubuntu-10.04
[18:32:52] <mfilipe> I don't found any PPA to update it to 3.7.1
[18:33:08] <ron> just download eclipse from www.eclipse.org/downloads
[18:33:20] <ron> the ubuntu repos suck hard
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[18:36:33] <Affix> ron: +1
[18:37:05] <mfilipe> ron, did you know some PPA to update it? I don't want maintain this
[18:37:39] <Affix> mfilipe: install the alien package
[18:37:40] <ron> no. ubuntu sucks. if you want to yell at anyone, try #eclipse-linux
[18:37:59] <ron> though seriously, there's nothing to maintain.
[18:38:06] <Affix> mfilipe: and use the fedora 16 Repository for eclipse-3.7.1.f16.noarch.rpm
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[18:40:28] <mfilipe> ron, did you know why ubuntu team don't update eclipse?
[18:40:41] <ron> no idea whatsoever.
[18:40:46] <rcjsuen> mfilipe: probably either a) too hard and/or b) no one is interested
[18:40:55] <Affix> mfilipe: I would suggest you ask #ubuntu for that
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[19:06:28] <njbartlett> Hellooooooo
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[19:07:31] <SkyFlyer> .. When i added a remote connection, all works fine for connecting, however when I click the arrow on root to expand, eclipse says "fetching children" and then stops and doesn't list anything?  anyone know how to fix this? ?
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[19:10:23] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: It seems you are not on Japanese soil.
[19:10:37] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: Alas, not yet
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[19:10:51] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: These things take time? visa applications, selling all my junk...
[19:10:55] <njbartlett> And I have a LOT of junk
[19:11:04] <rcjsuen> It looked that way when I was at your place.
[19:11:22] <njbartlett> (BTW anybody want to buy a car? No? Sigh)
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[19:11:55] <njbartlett> Okay so I have an Eclipse question
[19:13:00] <nbf> njbartlett: how mature is bndtools
[19:13:00] <njbartlett> I'd like to get a callback of some kind when a project has been imported into the workspace, e.g. using the "Import existing projects" wizard?. I don't want to use a builder because there is something I want to do only the first time I see the project
[19:13:33] <njbartlett> nbf: Err, not as mature as I'd like. It's contiually getting better though, and I provide great support! ;-)
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[19:14:30] <njbartlett> I suppose I could use a builder and set a project property in .settings after I've done my initialisation, but that doesn't sound very clean either
[19:15:44] <nbf> cool, is it difficult to migrate an existing rcp app over? does bndtools support an offline/headless build or is that not in scope?
[19:16:14] <njbartlett> nbf: TBH it's not trivial to port an existing RCP application. I'm working on wizard to make it easier but they are not available yet.
[19:16:28] <nbf> I find myself perpetually shaking my fist at eclipse for anything regarding build our rcp app :)
[19:16:32] <njbartlett> nbf: The main missing feature for doing RCP with Bndtools is that the PDE "Extension Point" editor doesn't work
[19:16:46] <njbartlett> nbf: So for extensions and extension points, you have to edit plugin.xml manually
[19:17:17] <njbartlett> nbf: Since I use bndtools to develop bndtools itself, I constantly curse this limitation. But there no way I'm going to reimplement the entire PDE plugin.xml editor
[19:17:54] <nbf> whats different, does it use a different schema or something?
[19:18:02] <njbartlett> nbf: I'm also hopeful that this limitation will just go away in the future, since e4 makes far less use of extensions
[19:18:43] <njbartlett> nbf: Regarding your other question? yes bndtools absolutely supports offline build, it's called bnd, the original tool developed by Peter Kriens.
[19:18:50] <njbartlett> nbf: Different schema for what?
[19:19:00] <nbf> I don't understand why the PDE editor doesn't work
[19:19:24] <njbartlett> nbf: The PDE editor doesn't work because it throws NPEs when you try to use it in a projec that doesn't have the PDE nature
[19:19:32] <nbf> ah ok that makes sense
[19:19:43] <nbf> that's not too big of a loss
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[19:19:47] <nbf> the editors are nice though
[19:20:05] <nbf> not so much the plugin.xml editing but the extension/extension point editing features
[19:20:19] <njbartlett> nbf: Yes. Perhaps PDE could be patched to not throw NPEs, perhaps I could just drag in their code (Bndtools is EPL also)...
[19:20:25] <nbf> right now I'm using buckminster for headless builds
[19:20:38] <njbartlett> nbf: extensions and extension points are defined in plugin.xml so it's the same thing
[19:20:57] <nbf> I'm talking about the schemas
[19:21:04] <nbf> for extension points
[19:21:22] <njbartlett> Oh yeah, the whole schema editor stuff as well. Actually I'm not sure if that works or not :-)
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[19:22:11] <njbartlett> rcjsuen, paulweb515, any ideas about the callback on import of a project?
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[19:22:46] <nitind> Doesn't it just look like a project's created?
[19:23:00] <rcjsuen> It would likely fire the same events.
[19:23:24] <njbartlett> nitind: Yes it does? oh you're saying I could get an event on a ResourceListener?
[19:23:39] <njbartlett> So a delta on a project with a type of "created", something like that
[19:24:32] <njbartlett> But? from a ResourceListener I can't make resource changes
[19:25:04] <njbartlett> Then again I could start a WorkspaceJob. Okay guys thanks for your help, that gives me a starting point :-)
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[19:36:53] <SARC> Greetings. I have used Eclipse for a while now, but I am setting up a PHP project for the first time.  I have Apache installed and working and I have downloaded and installed the PHP add on for Eclipse. When I click to "run" the php file, it is not found.
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[19:40:17] <SARC> Greetings. I have used Eclipse for a while now, but I am setting up a PHP project for the first time.  I have Apache installed and working and I have downloaded and installed the PHP add on for Eclipse. When I click to "run" the php file, it is not found.
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[19:59:26] <nitind> mfilipe: Seems like that's something Zend Studio can do, looking at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnqcKIdJQps .  Not sure why it's more complicated than PDT can handle.
[20:00:22] <nitind> SARC: You don't have to repeat yourself.  Did you also install PHP and the Apache PHP module?  What is not found when you try to Run a PHP file?
[20:04:18] <mfilipe> nitind, I don't want install many IDE's to program... I think that VIM and Eclipse is sufficient
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[20:07:46] <nitind> mfilipe: Then you might want to open a feature request.
[20:11:48] <mfilipe> nitind, sorry? what are the feature?
[20:12:49] <SARC> PHP and Apache PHP modules are installed.  I hadn't installed Zend Debugger, but I got that now.
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[20:14:31] <nitind> mfilipe: Create a project from existing sources.  Unless you were trying it with existing sources that were *already* in the workspace.
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[20:27:59] <myusuf3__> what happened to hamcrest in the indigo release?
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[20:29:51] <myusuf3__> why is it so hard to find information with eclipse
[20:29:55] <DeviceZer0> hello all. Ive got eclipse installed on ubuntu 11.10 but when i start it..all the plugins i had installed from another install are not working(android plugin and e/jgit). Ive tried completely removing the plugins and reinstalling them...but even then they fail to work.
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[20:30:44] <Chris64> hi
[20:30:47] <DeviceZer0> When i start eclipse now i see it saying: Could not provide org.eclipse.egit.core.GitProvider for project:
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[20:31:00] <nitind> What was hamcrest?
[20:31:19] <Chris64> can you point me to information about Eclipse e4 Authentification and Autorisation services? just being curious what they're doing
[20:31:45] <rcjsuen> Chris64: No one is working on that afaik.
[20:32:25] <myusuf3__> nitind, it was a package that shipped with helios for junit
[20:32:59] <Chris64> okay, thank you. just found some tickets on these topic (327978, 328277, 330671, 330675). I'll read them so far :)
[20:33:30] <rcjsuen> I still see org.hamcrest.core with my Eclipse install.
[20:33:43] <rcjsuen> DeviceZer0: Installed from another install?
[20:33:45] <nitind> myusuf3__: where?
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[20:34:14] <DeviceZer0> rcjsuen, yea like i kept my users home folder with all the settings in it.
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[20:34:33] <myusuf3__> rcjsuen, I need it to be pulled down for builds
[20:34:44] <nitind> myusuf3__: What's stopping you?
[20:34:50] <myusuf3__> i am using http://download.eclipse.org/releases/indigo
[20:34:52] <myusuf3__> as my repo
[20:34:56] <myusuf3__> it can't find it
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[20:35:00] <myusuf3__> is what is stopping me
[20:35:07] <optimusM> anykne here?
[20:35:14] <myusuf3__> i did a switch between helios and indigo
[20:35:38] <optimusM> does anyone here compile source codes?
[20:35:46] <rcjsuen> DeviceZer0: I don't understand what you're trying to do.
[20:35:47] <nitind> optimusM: ~ask
[20:35:47] <Arbalest> If you have a question, just ask, don't ask if you can ask a question. Skip the "meta-questions" like asking whether anyone uses X also as a precursor to check whether anyone can help you with a problem you have with X. Just ask the real question you have about X.
[20:36:05] <nitind> And say what language the sources are in.
[20:36:24] <myusuf3__> http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCEQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mahdiyusuf.com%2Fpost%2F6176918750%2Fsurvival-guide-irc&ei=dheCTsu8CY7I0AHYsJ1-&usg=AFQjCNHaLEyaV36JgfrPXZo--dTrtk7Iuw
[20:36:26] <optimusM> its from a website called buzztouch
[20:36:35] <myusuf3__> http://www.mahdiyusuf.com/post/6176918750/survival-guide-irc
[20:36:54] <optimusM> it says use eclipse to compile source code
[20:37:05] <DeviceZer0> rcjsuen, Im trying to develop android stuff. I was previously using ubuntu 11.04 with eclipse and the android and git plugins for eclipse. I upgraded ubuntu...but kept all my users files....im now on the updated ubuntu and installed eclipse...but none of the plugins work.
[20:37:12] <myusuf3__> rcjsuen, do I need to add something new to find org.hamcrest with indigo
[20:37:54] <nitind> myusuf3__: How were you getting it before?
[20:37:54] <rcjsuen> DeviceZer0: I don't see how your Eclipse would magically know about additional plug-ins if you just untarred it.
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[20:38:18] <optimusM> im trying to make a android app for my phone that people use fot custom roms and recoverys
[20:38:20] <DeviceZer0> rcjsuen, It was my assumption that plugins where installed locally
[20:38:29] <nitind> myusuf3__: I thin it's still in the org.eclipse.jdt feature.
[20:38:32] <DeviceZer0> and i installed it via a package manager
[20:38:52] <rcjsuen> Then you should talk to your distro.
[20:39:13] <optimusM> and would see if someone would compile it for me just to see ig it works
[20:39:21] <optimusM> if
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[20:40:07] <nitind> optimusM: I'm pretty sure the answer's going to be "no".  Where are you stuck?
[20:40:07] <optimusM> it dont have no pics or nothing just a links etc
[20:40:07] <myusuf3__> nitind, I was getting it all from the same repository
[20:40:28] <optimusM> im using my phone no pc.
[20:40:58] <nitind> optimusM: I suggest you try it yourself when you're at a PC, then.
[20:41:05] <optimusM> lol
[20:41:18] <nitind> myusuf3__: Were you pulling in JDT before?
[20:41:26] <optimusM> ill ask some developers that use my phone
[20:41:38] <optimusM> i mean have the same phone as me lol
[20:43:45] <kesselhaus> rcjsuen: i think, the versioning scheme is somewhat ... 'crappy'
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[20:44:03] <rcjsuen> kesselhaus: Oh?
[20:44:05] <kesselhaus> rcjsuen: http://codepad.org/qBuPVPIs .. when i look at that output here
[20:44:29] <rcjsuen> Oh I thought you were making a comment about Eclipse 4 in particular.
[20:44:58] <kesselhaus> no, that also applies to 3.x stream
[20:45:04] <nitind> Is that EMF's screwup again?
[20:45:14] <nitind> Guess not, then.
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[20:45:16] <nitind> Crappy how?
[20:45:30] <kesselhaus> not sure, but i stumble across that with 3.x and other stuff too
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[20:46:20] <nitind> That's not a versioning scheme problem, that's a conflicting dependency problem.
[20:46:30] <kesselhaus> the question is .. "What now? Is that now 2.7.0, or is it not 2.7.0?"
[20:47:52] <kesselhaus> i already said my opinion about p2 already .. not being able to update because something is already installed etc.
[20:48:28] <briandealwis1> The p2 FAQ has a p2 query that will find all features specifying a bundle
[20:48:29] <briandealwis1> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox/p2/FAQ
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[20:49:25] <kesselhaus> briandealwis1: a user usually does not want to query some internals .. he wants it just .. to update the damn stuff
[20:49:53] <briandealwis1> kesselhaus: sorry, that wasn't actually directed at you, but to myusuf3__
[20:50:11] <rcjsuen> well, in this case, GMF wants EMF v123 and Eclipse Platform wants v234 and the bundle is presumably a singleton so it won't let you do it
[20:50:19] <rcjsuen> But I'm sure you already figured that out.
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[20:53:36] <kesselhaus> well, i remember a time you could update eclipse as long as it was "compatible" and "EMF Common 2.7.0..." sounds compatible for me
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[20:54:10] <rcjsuen> iirc the meeting
[20:54:17] <rcjsuen> we (Eclipse 4) placed a hard dependency on that particular EMF version
[20:54:31] <rcjsuen> I think this is why you're being screwed right now
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[20:54:45] <rcjsuen> we hope to change this for m3
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[21:04:55] <SARC> I think I may have it, except I don't know what to use for the configuration (PHP executable)
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[21:33:42] <Chris64> install e4 tooling on e4.2m2 fails because of dependency issues
[21:33:45] <nbf> ouch
[21:33:52] <nbf> I just got a nasty sql error when visiting eclipse.org
[21:34:01] <Chris64> :|
[21:34:03] <Chris64> and now?
[21:34:05] <nbf> SQL Trouble: Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails (`eclipse/CampaignImpressions`, CONSTRAINT `CampaignImpressions_ibfk_1` FOREIGN KEY (`CampaignKey`) REFERENCES `Campaigns` (`CampaignKey`) ON DELETE CASCADE ON UPDATE CASCADE)
[21:36:11] <nbf> anyone know if there's an early, early bird rate for broke ass tiny startups at eclipsecon
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[21:48:05] <Chris64> e4.2m2 throws a lot of dependency errors when trying to install E4 UI Packages. never got it how to resolve such dependency problems, any ideas? -> http://pastebin.com/DpEpYxza
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[21:57:18] <Chris64> nbf: now seeing the sql error too: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/e4/downloads/drops/R-0.111-201109121510/eclipse-e4-repo-incubation-0.111.zip
[21:58:51] <nbf> yeah it's intermittent
[22:00:45] <nbf> must be running DB2 o_O
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[22:03:42] <nbf> the new EGit feature looks nice :)
[22:03:51] <nbf> in the latest release for SR1
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[22:07:44] <danols_work> ok I have 4.2M1 when I search help --- it says indexing than closes --- no error message or anything
[22:08:14] <rcjsuen> danols_work: Are you using Java 7?
[22:08:52] <danols_work> yes
[22:08:54] <danols_work> just checked
[22:09:04] <rcjsuen> well there's your answer :)
[22:09:08] <danols_work> omg
[22:09:21] <rcjsuen> ~353740
[22:09:22] <Arbalest> Bug 353740 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=353740 - Platform / User Assistance / 3.7 - PC / Windows 7 - RESOLVED / NOT_ECLIPSE / major / - Assignee: platform-ua-inbox - Indexing help crashes Eclipse on Java 7
[22:09:28] <danols_work> I upgraded to 4.2M1 cause it was supposed to work with Java 7 :)
[22:09:34] <danols_work> ok how do I downgrade to java 6 ?
[22:09:41] <danols_work> it's win 7 machine so I think it auto updated
[22:09:51] <rcjsuen> well you can use the vmarg thin
[22:09:54] <rcjsuen> to disable the loop optimization
[22:10:03] <rcjsuen> ^refer to the bug
[22:10:07] <Chris64> danols_work: are you able to install E4 UI packages without dependency errors?
[22:10:19] <Chris64> if yes, where can I get Milestone1?
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[22:10:53] <danols_work> Chris64: how can I check that for u ?
[22:11:10] <danols_work> I selected 'check update' couple days back and it updated no problem
[22:11:21] <rcjsuen> danols_work: It's a bug in the VM so it's not an issue with Eclipse (or Apache Lucene).
[22:11:24] <danols_work> to get e4 go to download page and select the 'For Developer' menu
[22:11:32] <rcjsuen> I believe it should be fixed in the newer releases of Java 7.
[22:11:41] <rcjsuen> (whenever they aer pushing out a service frelease, not sure)
[22:12:11] <Chris64> Help -> Install new Software -> select e4 0.11 Updates (or so) and try to install E4 UI
[22:12:23] <Chris64> I'll try to download it from there, thank you :)
[22:12:34] <danols_work> is Java 7 just butchered or something ?
[22:12:51] <Chris64> is there e4 tooling available for eclipse 3.x?
[22:12:55] <nitind> butchered?
[22:13:21] <danols_work> botched
[22:13:42] <danols_work> isn't e4 = 4.2M1 ?
[22:14:01] <Chris64> no there is 4.2M2 available?
[22:14:15] <briandealwis1> danols_work: the same optimization bugs were present in Java6, but they were disabled.  Oracle enabled them by default in Java7
[22:14:34] <briandealwis1> dao
[22:14:43] <Chris64> mhh, where is it..
[22:15:08] <briandealwis1> danols_work: what's commonly called e4 is actually called Eclipse 4.  The Eclipse 4 Application Platform if you want to be totally correct
[22:15:13] <Chris64> http://download.eclipse.org/e4/downloads/ <- stream stable build
[22:16:06] <briandealwis1> e4 is actually the Eclipse Platform incubator ? for a while E4AP was the only project in the e4 incubator, and we made the mistake of using e4 = E4AP.  We're very regretful of that confusion now.
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[22:16:25] <danols_work> briandealwis1: that's what I thought so anything e4 marked incuabtion is old?
[22:16:41] <briandealwis1> danols_work: nope ? we have other projects in e4 now too
[22:16:47] <danols_work> k
[22:16:56] <danols_work> so in a nut shell e4 is version 4.x
[22:17:12] <briandealwis1> nope.  it's the incubator
[22:17:14] <briandealwis1> that's it
[22:17:16] <briandealwis1> nothing else
[22:17:32] <briandealwis1> If you have to use a shorthand, use E4AP
[22:17:42] <briandealwis1> ?for Eclipse 4 Application Platform.
[22:17:52] <danols_work> k
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[22:18:06] <danols_work> so Chris64 what do you want me to check on E4AP ?
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[22:29:08] <Chris64> re :|
[22:31:08] <danols_work> k so all I needed to do was add -XX:-UseLoopPredicate to the eclipse.ini file run it press f1 - after it buit it's index I removed the -XX:-UseLoopPredicate line and now it seems to let me use help file no problem.
[22:32:02] <mpiggott> gogo releasing jvm7 with a known bug
[22:32:33] <Chris64> oracle\o/
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[22:33:04] <Chris64> eclipse-e4-repo-incubation-0.111.zip is only 36MB in size, is that correct? 4.2M2 is over 200MB big
[22:33:53] <mpiggott> Probably just has the e4 ui parts in the zip?
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[22:34:59] <Chris64> mhh different download links..
[22:35:02] <Chris64> indeed confusing
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[22:35:17] <Chris64> http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/ has the right one
[22:35:21] <danols_work> anyone here can suggest a minifing and compressing plugin for JS ?
[22:35:43] <Chris64> i think I got wrong with SDK and something different
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[22:39:11] <Chris64> I mixed http://download.eclipse.org/e4/downloads/ with http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/ that was it :)
[22:39:44] <danols_work> Chris64:  you on windows machine ?
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[22:40:35] <Chris64> yes
[22:41:25] <danols_work> k one odd bug I discovered is don't install eclipse into ProgramFiles --- something with permissions screws it up rcjsuen_ can tell you a little more -- just eclipse on your desktop for example
[22:41:56] <danols_work> the bug for example I got was I would install a plug in but no perspective would be avaiable for it
[22:42:03] <Chris64> okay, I'm using it as portable
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[22:55:51] <myusuf3__> anyone see this error before
[22:55:53] <myusuf3__> http://pastie.org/2602060
[22:56:17] <myusuf3__> org.eclipse.core.runtime is in plugins
[22:57:46] <SARC^> Need help figuring out why Eclipse / PDT / Apache won't work together.
[22:58:00] <briandealwis1> myusuf3__: check your config.ini to ensure your bundles have appropriate start levels
[22:58:28] <myusuf3__> there is only one level in config.ini
[22:58:32] <myusuf3__> which is set to 4
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[22:58:56] <SARC^> When I click "Debug As PHP Web Page" I get an error that the page doesn't exist/
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[22:59:18] <briandealwis1> myusuf3__: can you put your config.ini into a pastebin too?
[22:59:40] <myusuf3__> briandealwis1, it has a bunch of company plugins
[22:59:43] <ZzBomb> I'm having trouble using the cpp cdt with eclipse. getting this error when doing a simple hello world, with a system pause. '..\src\TEST2.cpp:14:16: error: 'system' was not declared in this scope'
[22:59:52] <myusuf3__> briandealwis1, what should I be looking for
[23:00:19] <briandealwis1> myusuf3__: you're looking to ensure you have a number of plugins listed with :start.  Or the bundles.info file.
[23:00:35] <ZzBomb> Using windows 7, with mingw32. system path added as ';C:\MinGW\bin;C:\MinGW\msys\1.0\bin;'
[23:01:04] <myusuf3__> briandealwis1, :start isn't in config file
[23:01:27] <briandealwis1> Also make sure you have a line with something like "eclipse.application=ca.mt.kizby.application"
[23:01:56] <briandealwis1> ZzBomb: there aren't many people here who use CDT (or at least that answer questions).  You might be better to post to the CDT forum
[23:02:49] <myusuf3__> briandealwis1, the config.ini
[23:02:54] <myusuf3__> was generated through build
[23:03:02] <ZzBomb> Shucks. Well perhaps some trouble shooting.. What library included 'system' and 'cout'? I think i need to add one more thing to the system path just need to figure out what
[23:03:07] <myusuf3__> so i did hjave eclipse application line no problem
[23:03:11] <ZzBomb> it's mostly working >.<
[23:03:19] <myusuf3__> but no :start anywhere in config file
[23:03:33] <ZzBomb> Meh eclipse is java mainly ill visit #cpp :P
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[23:06:07] <Chris64> I should have stopped doing anything with E4 two hours ago *sigh*
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[23:06:20] <Chris64> I'm still unable to install these damn E4 Tooling Packages
[23:06:25] <Chris64> always dependency errors
[23:08:27] <paissad> i installed jsf-tools, but i see  nowhere i can use it or make some setup
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[23:08:36] <myusuf3__> briandealwis1, is that an issue that there is not :start?
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[23:09:52] <briandealwis1> myusuf3__: it means that the OSGi framework won't start them up automatically
[23:09:58] <briandealwis1> so I think it's an issue
[23:10:20] <myusuf3__> well the config file is being generated through the build via tycho
[23:10:24] <myusuf3__> so why doesn't it do that?
[23:10:32] <myusuf3__> do I specifcy it in the start levels?
[23:11:01] <briandealwis1> You specify these details in the product file.  It can't know what should be started.
[23:12:57] <Chris64> is there any other possibility to setup e4 application projects? for example on eclipse 3.7?
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[23:14:23] <rcjsuen> if you have a target plaform, I think it should be possible
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[23:17:42] <myusuf3__> briandealwis1, thanks for the help
[23:18:57] <Chris64> Bye, see you tomorrow or so..
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