[00:00:04] <mmercer> hey guys.... anyone have an actual *working* guide to getting subclipse running with indigo and snow leopard 10.6.8 ?
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[00:20:18] <nitind> jesmon: 3.7 has shipped.  It's part of Indigo.
[00:20:37] <Crusher4> 3.7.1 has shipped
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[00:25:31] <rcjsuen> nonetheless this link is useful for Eclipse SDK update sites http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse_Project_Update_Sites
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[01:54:31] <nbf> is there any documentation on which platforms support the native hooks refresh option in preferences?
[01:54:41] <nbf> I'd assume win/mac/linux all do but I'm not sure
[01:55:44] <nbf> also can you use plugin_customization.ini to enable that or refresh on access for an rcp app? What is the key or where can I look the correct key up?
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[01:58:12] <nbf> is IWorkbenchPreferenceConstants gone with indigo?
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[02:02:12] <nbf> hmm you can look in the .settings in the core plugin metadata
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[02:03:53] <nbf> nope
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[02:12:20] <nbf> anyone have any comments on this issue? http://javamoods.blogspot.com/2009/04/eclipse-user-operation-is-waiting-and.html
[02:12:25] <nbf> it's pretty annoying
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[02:23:56] <rcjsuen> pretty sure the refresh on access is just a pref
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[02:25:00] <rcjsuen> nbf: I could see why it would happen.
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[02:27:23] <rcjsuen> ~356411
[02:27:24] <Arbalest> Bug 356411 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=356411 - Platform / Resources / 3.7 - All / All - NEW / enhancement / - Assignee: platform-resources-inbox - Nothing should block me from writing code in the editor
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[03:21:05] <nbf> rcjsuen: thanks :)
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[03:42:56] <matt5> hey guys, I recall there was a keyboard shortcut in eclipse, for when developing java
[03:43:05] <matt5> when I would be on the head of a class declaration
[03:43:33] <matt5> I could type something like //** or something, and get some javadoc stuff automatically typed -- like @return and and @param stuff
[03:43:49] <matt5> what is that shortcut exactly? //** I think is not it
[03:44:44] 
[03:53:23] <matt5> HI HELOOOO SOMEONE SHOuld ANSWER MY QUESTION
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[04:07:47] <nitind> matt5: You're not engendering sympathy.  Alt+Shift+J.
[04:10:21] <Crusher4> matt5: also you could have rightclicked to see what it was called, and then looked for that shortcut key in the menus
[04:14:31] <matt5> nitind: thank you but that's not quite it
[04:14:56] <matt5> the process was more like typing just the beginning of /**
[04:15:11] <matt5> and perhaps space + enter or something, and then you'd see @return and @param, etc.
[04:15:18] <Crusher4> if you select the method header
[04:15:29] <Crusher4> function definition
[04:15:31] <Crusher4> whatever you want to call it
[04:15:58] <Crusher4> then hit those keys, or rightclick and say generate javadoc / comment / something for element
[04:16:14] <Crusher4> it starts a /** @param @ return blah */ section
[04:16:50] <nitind> matt5: You mean Ctrl+Space when in the JavaDoc area?  Just the regular Content Assist?
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[04:20:53] <matt5> oh, simply donig /** works - it autogenerates the @param, @throws, etc. fields -- it wasn't working for me before because I already had a comment above the header. When it doesn't have comments above it it does auto-generate some stuff for you
[04:21:02] <matt5> thanks!!!
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[04:34:35] <hidensoft> hi
[04:36:12] <Crusher4> hello
[04:39:35] <hidensoft> i use eclipse 3.6.2 fedora kde , i found plugin for javascript editor , what i need for css editor ?
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[04:40:06] <Crusher4> not my area of expertise. eclipse 3.7.1 is the current version
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[04:43:20] <nitind> ~tell hidensoft about wtp
[04:43:20] <Arbalest> hidensoft: Check out Eclipse's Web Tools Platform - http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/ - It includes tools for working with XML files, web pages, Java EE artifacts, and much more.
[04:46:00] <hidensoft> nitind, when i try to install some plugin i got error about package depend
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[04:49:27] <hidensoft> for example : http://pastebin.com/mhz5TTs5
[04:52:23] <nitind> hidensoft: You're not searching the right update sites, I'd think.  Plus you're looking for content that's 2 years and 2 releases old.
[04:57:13] <hidensoft> ok
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[05:05:41] <hidensoft> its right update site ? "http://download.eclipse.org/releases/helios"
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[08:02:56] <hidensoft> some can help me ? i can install eclipse web tools "http://pastebin.com/hAPcd2Fv"
[08:06:23] <ron> you have a conflict with the javascript developer tools.
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[08:07:30] <g00s> anyone have a strange problem with 3.7.0 and 3.7.1 on mac os x, where the cursor keys and delete key just stops working ? i then have to restart eclipse. this is the only app it happens to.
[08:07:58] <ron> simple solution for it.
[08:08:05] <Crusher4> g00s: havent seen that yet, but i was debugging most of today
[08:08:56] <g00s> it happens maybe once every few days. i have no idea what triggers it. it is very bizarre
[08:09:05] <g00s> i use eclipse every day
[08:09:13] <Crusher4> oh, it happened with 3.7 also? then no, i've never seen that
[08:09:26] <g00s> yeah, 3.7 also
[08:09:43] <Crusher4> i've been using eclipse like 12+ hrs/day for the last two months on a project in 10.7, with the java eclipse
[08:10:01] <g00s> oh, i use 10.6.8
[08:10:26] <g00s> yeah, about 12 hours a day :)
[08:10:29] <Crusher4> i never had any problems with 3.7 on 10.6.8, but i wasnt using eclipse as much per day at that point
[08:11:21] <Crusher4> using 64bit cocoa?
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[08:11:45] <g00s> yes
[08:12:10] <Crusher4> odd. It's not anything i've seen on any of my 3 macs before or after lion with 3.7
[08:12:45] <ron> Crusher4: did you upgrade to 3.7.1 already?
[08:13:09] <Crusher4> yeah i found it on the osusl mirror at 1am last night :)
[08:13:29] <Crusher4> apparently i should have tried that on the 16th
[08:13:42] <hidensoft> ron, thanks
[08:14:03] <ron> can't get it to upgrade yet :-/
[08:14:07] <Crusher4> ron: i used it all day today, it fixed my former 10.7 bugs :)
[08:14:20] <Crusher4> ron: i just downloaded it fresh and then reinstalled my two plugins
[08:14:40] <ron> oh, well, that's cheating.
[08:14:41] <ron> :)
[08:15:19] <Crusher4> but ever so effecient
[08:16:00] <hidensoft> finally web developer tools installed , but css , javascript highlight does not work , any idea ?
[08:16:21] <ron> do you open them with the right editors?
[08:16:45] <hidensoft> ron, what you mean ?
[08:17:03] <ron> right click on the file-->open with
[08:17:12] <Crusher4> hidensoft: they may just be opening with the generic text editor instead of the actual task built editor
[08:18:16] <hidensoft> ron, Crusher4 , thanks , its work now
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[09:16:17] <nexx> I have eclipse 3.7 for java developers installed. Now I want to update it, but get always this error: https://privatepaste.com/c6e1c2d543
[09:16:28] <nexx> Does anyone know how to fix this?
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[11:01:28] <Crusher4> nexx: dunno, I did a fresh install of the eclipse folder on my 3 machines and then installed the two plugins I use
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[11:05:43] <ron> ?
[11:11:39] <Crusher4> he asked "I have eclipse 3.7 for java developers installed. Now I want to update it, but get always this error: https://privatepaste.com/c6e1c2d543
[11:11:42] <Crusher4> 00:13 < nexx> Does anyone know how to fix this?"
[11:12:02] <Crusher4> but I was having a snack eslewhere and nobody else said anything
[11:12:36] <Crusher4> ron: did you ever get the eclipse updater to work?
[11:12:48] <ron> yup
[11:13:09] <Crusher4> ron: was there any trick to it
[11:13:16] <ron> yup
[11:13:27] <ron> but I've never seen that error message before.
[11:13:34] <nexx> thx for the reply. I'm using a few more plugins and hope I don't have to reinstall all.
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[11:14:53] <student720> hi everyone, how can I reference my project to a folder out of the workspace and edit in it
[11:14:54] <student720> ?
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[11:17:15] <ron> is it an eclipse-ready project?
[11:17:45] <student720> no
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[11:19:57] <ron> just create a new project, and instead of using the default location, point it to wherever your project sits.
[11:21:14] <student720> thank you so much!
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[11:31:08] <Crusher4> ron: so what was the trick for you to upgrade to sr1
[11:31:55] <ron> instead of generally checking for updates, I checked updates only for the basic eclipse package. still took a while, but it worked.
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[11:50:53] <especially-corn> can anyone tell me how i can rename the label of a project thats on svn?
[11:51:34] <especially-corn> like instead of saying MyProject [http://path/to/svnrepo/MyProject] to say MyProject [repo2]
[11:52:42] <Crusher4> so is repo2 your shorthand name for the path/to/svnrepo part
[11:52:44] <ron> that's part of the text-decoration settings.
[11:53:12] <especially-corn> ron, on the initial checkout i was given an option to name it
[11:53:22] <especially-corn> but i forgot to name it and now i have a huge url there
[11:54:57] <ron> well, I don't have any of the svn plugins installed, so I can't check it for myself, but I imagine you can change it in the svn perspective.
[11:55:43] * Crusher4 prefers to do scm stuff on the commandline
[11:56:20] <Crusher4> ...so I also have no idea
[11:57:00] <especially-corn> ron, well it's ok i gues
[11:57:16] <ron> ?
[11:57:25] <especially-corn> i deleted the project from eclipse, i opened a new project with the same name
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[11:57:49] <especially-corn> and i "share project", basically as if i was doing the first checkout
[11:58:04] <ron> some people should not be allowed to give lectures.
[11:58:04] <especially-corn> and it said there's already a project with this name, i told it to download it
[11:58:08] <especially-corn> and now its okay :)
[12:11:14] <Crusher4> oh man. found some code today at work that a guy wrote 8 functions that do the same thing, except they're all one line different. I sincerely hope this guy was drunk when he wrote this. LOC savings: 1,468.
[12:12:57] <ron> hehe
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[12:13:14] <Crusher4> sadly though, he was probably just really lazy.
[12:14:44] <ron> welp, lunch time.
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[14:05:08] <Slartibart> Hi. Short version: When I try to Open a project that's been created from the Remote systems view Eclipse never finishes, just a waiting mouse pointer and "Eclipse does not respond". Anything known about this?
[14:09:21] <Slartibart> I can click in other views, but if I try to expand the project I just opened the waiting pointer etc kicks in.
[14:10:11] <Slartibart> Which basically means I can't open a remote project =[
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[14:29:26] <seyz> hi everybody !
[14:29:49] <seyz> How can I retrieve the default CodeFormatter of a project in eclipse JDT API ?
[14:30:16] <seyz> DefaultCodeFormatter formatter = new DefaultCodeFormatter(JavaCore.getOptions());  returns the default formatter
[14:30:21] <seyz> not the formatter specific to my project
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[14:55:15] <ron> Slartibart: Short version: working on remote files as part of the project is a poor choice of working environment.
[14:58:41] <Slartibart> ron: Yeah, well.. That's the way it is. I'm the only one using those files, so there's no risk of overwriting anything, etc. Are you saying I should mirror the remote site somehow, or what?
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[15:20:38] <ron> Slartibart: don't want to get in your business, but why do you work that way?
[15:25:32] <Slartibart> ron: Why not? Why do you think it's a poor way of working? The way it is for me right now this is(should be, at least) like a shared network harddrive or something. Without the risk of overwriting things done by others.
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[15:27:22] <ron> okay, but not work locally?
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[15:46:35] <Slartibart> ron: How do you mean? The server is remote.
[15:46:53] <ron> let me guess. PHP?
[15:50:53] <Slartibart> Yes?
[15:52:00] <ron> Then I give up.
[15:52:32] <Slartibart> Nah.. Now is the time for you to say there's an easy and effective workaround for my problem ;-j..
[15:54:04] <ron> for some reason, it seems like a common practice for php developers to work directly on their sever and not develop locally. personally, I find the concept odd (to say the least) and potentially dangerous.
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[15:56:55] <Slartibart> ron: It might have something to do with database servers only accessible from local? At least in my case.. Copying the database to my local development evnironment would be a lot of tedious work with nothing to gain from it..
[15:57:41] <Slartibart> ..And since I'm only working on my parts of the project, etc etc..
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[16:10:40] <ron> Slartibart: for development environment, you should either have a local database or a central database accessible for all developers. just because you're the only one working on those specific files, doesn't mean there's no need for some kind of source control management.
[16:12:57] <ron> it also means that your development is network dependent which isn't a very good idea.
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[16:16:35] <Slartibart> ron: What? No, it's not more network dependent than that we're including settings for connecting to that particular server when needed. So that is easy to change.
[16:17:05] <ron> you can't work on it offline.
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[16:22:58] <Slartibart> Usually I shouldn't be working on it? Most of the PHP is about making pages that either display db data or lets the user edit it. Not sure if I'm following you here, sorry if I missed a point. Besides, there's always phpmyadmin, so that you can browse to that web/dbserver and edit things that way :).
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[16:24:54] <ron> Like I said, maybe I'm too unfamiliar with the process of PHP development.
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[16:26:17] <Slartibart> No problem there :), it's nice to discuss things every once in a while. Have to go now though.
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[16:28:06] <Slartibart> I'll leave my eternally unresponsive eclipse running, hope it's finished by the time I get back :-p..
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[17:24:58] <JSeymour> Figured I'd find this here :).  Okay, so... Wanting to mess with 'droid development on an Ubuntu 9.10 system, so I downloaded the 3.7.1 tar.gz file... Now what?  I find no installation instructions *anywhere*.
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[17:49:16] <shal3r> I would like to update my Eclipse Helios to Indigo, but i don't want to lose all my settings and plugins. Is that possible?
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[18:11:59] <kinga> hey, does an1 knows a eclipse software that lets you synchronize 2 projects through ssh ?
[18:12:04] <kinga> an*
[18:13:04] <kinga>     PTP Remote Development Tools (RDT) is this one good ?
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[20:43:40] <khear> hi, i have a java workspace on a remote machine that i have ssh access to, and i'd like to import a single package from it into a local workspace. how would i go about doing that?
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[20:44:51] <khear> i forgot to export the package into a zip file or something while physically in the remote location, which is what i usually do
[20:45:32] <khear> now i tried to just dive into the workspace directory, copy the folder of the package over and import it, but that didn't seem to work
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[21:03:15] <khear> ah, nevermind. i accidentally copied the folder from the bin directory :P
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[23:25:53] <lahwran> https://gist.github.com/c051613ad31218725128
[23:25:59] <lahwran> I just attempted to install m2e
[23:26:09] <lahwran> it refused to do so, with that error in the info box
[23:26:16] <lahwran> I just upgraded to indigo
[23:26:21] <ron> you're on linux?
[23:26:26] <lahwran> yes, ubuntu 10.10
[23:26:37] <lahwran> I assume it would Just Work on a better linux :P
[23:26:37] <ron> it could be a permission issue
[23:26:42] <lahwran> oh?
[23:27:02] <ron> that's what I hear
[23:27:10] <lahwran> wellll lemme make /usr/local/lib/eclipse belong to my user .... >.>
[23:27:19] <lahwran> <cheating>
[23:27:58] <lahwran> no space left on device ...
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[23:28:04] <lahwran> hm, I wonder if that has anything to do with it
[23:29:16] <jonn> So when I hit run as java application, nothign happens -- when I try to check the JRE settings in eclpise, I get this error:  and this is the error log
[23:29:34] <lahwran> that's an odd error
[23:29:42] <jonn> oops, http://pastebin.com/AsNQCbQQ is the log and http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24031172/eclipse%20error.png is the screenshot
[23:32:56] <lahwran> okay the first thing I'm noticing about indigo is that it's ridiculously slow
[23:33:01] <lahwran> even compared to galileo
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[23:33:38] <lahwran> ron: not sure if the disk space or the permissions were the problem
[23:33:41] <lahwran> but it installed now
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[23:34:14] <RenatoSilva> jonn: that sort of thing happens when you use development versions
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