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[04:26:21] <Guardric> Is it possible to compile and run a single .java file that contains a main method outside of a project?
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[04:32:07] <nitind> No, not without writing code of your own to call the compiler in some special way.
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[08:13:24] <garrettheel> i'm trying to open an editor manually in my code and just getting "ERROR" occur with a blue line above it. is there any way to debug this further to see what the exact error is?
[08:13:36] <garrettheel> sorry, i should note this is in an eclipse plugin
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[09:00:00] <napster> I've accidently deleted ~.eclipse
[09:00:08] <napster> I've lost all of my plugins
[09:00:28] <napster> how can I install them again as "Available Software Sources" is blank
[09:00:34] <napster> ?
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[09:02:52] <napster> Can anyone help me out?
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[09:07:34] <garrettheel> napster: you may need to add your sources in again
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[10:03:37] <Alvo> has eclipse a source template for iterating over an array?
[10:03:43] * Alvo is using java 1.4
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[10:08:14] <ualtin> type for and then ctrl + space
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[10:10:44] <Alvo> ualtin thanks
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[10:39:12] <_pingu> how can i show which java classes implement interface x?
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[10:48:36] <Alvo> _pingu press F4
[10:49:48] <_pingu> Alvo: hanks
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[10:50:03] <Alvo> :)
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[11:24:44] <Alvo> when i rename a variable, and during this press ctrl-a to select the whole name, the whole content of the file is selected
[11:24:53] <Alvo> only the variable name should be selected
[11:25:11] * Alvo not bugzilla
[11:25:41] <mihael> alvo: double click on the variable before editing
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[11:46:35] <napster> I've accidentally deleted .metadata from my workspace. How to make the project explorer show all the projects in workspace again?
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[11:48:43] <mihael> napster: import -> existing projects
[11:49:42] <napster> mihael: ty :)
[11:49:49] <mihael> np
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[11:56:39] <arobert> hi
[12:00:31] <Alvo> mihael yah im used from intellij to do ctrl-a, but unfortunately i can use pos-1 and end key in renaming
[12:02:01] <mihael> if pos1 + endkey is working then it works out just fine for you
[12:02:19] <Alvo>  yah just one keypress more
[12:02:39] <Alvo> mihael 2 more have to have shift pressed
[12:03:12] <mihael> i am not payed for each keypress so it doesn't matter to me =)
[12:03:33] <Alvo> time is money
[12:04:20] <TomTom> if your are a code monkey, then its true. if your are a software developer, then no
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[12:08:47] <mihael> if i am just saving one or two key strokes then it doesn't matter to me. but CTRL-1 is really saving time for creating whole method bodys etc.
[12:10:00] <lisak> I don't get the release line,  what is the next release of eclipse java edition that will target Java 7 ?
[12:10:04] <mihael> i don't write the method first and then use it. now most of the time i just write a non existing method with signature and press CTRL-1. THIS is a REAL time saver
[12:11:37] <Alvo> mihael yah ctrl-1 and -3 is fine
[12:12:08] <Alvo> mihael though its strange i have to save a java file in eclipse so often , i keep ctrl-s pressing all the time, in intellij its saven automatically
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[12:13:07] <mihael> why is it strange? when does intellij its savings?
[12:13:54] <Alvo> because its natural, a file goes to filesystem
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[12:14:42] <mihael> i don't even know if I would want to let the editor does its saves. what if the resource is on a remote filesystem and you have very little bandwidth. saving a large program (10000 lines) would take a long time. you wouldn't wantto save on every line you changed
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[12:16:06] <Alvo> mihael yes i would like it because i dont have to do the savings manually each time
[12:16:09] <lisak> anybody ? what release, or RC or M  targets java 7 ?
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[12:21:51] <mihael> alvo: nope, you wouldn't if each save would take 1 minute (which was a case I already had myself)
[12:22:35] <Alvo> mihael yes but its not the usual case normally you work on local files, so not saving to filesystem is a feature for rare cases
[12:23:37] <mihael> if you are talking about java files then i agree. you normally are working on local files
[12:24:16] <mihael> but there are some languages which host their files ALWAYS on the server. there you HAVE TO do all the work remotely.
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[12:25:17] <Alvo> mihael yah i also had it configured for remote files in intellij, e.g. you do php on a server, you change the focus to the browser, intellij uploads automatically on the 'focus loss' event, and you can do your things, no ctrl-s neccessary, no manual acitons for upload
[12:25:52] <mihael> nice if you have a fast connection (like LAN)
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[12:26:35] <Alvo> yah ur right this should also be the usual case but also a good internet connection would do
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[12:31:59] <ron> lisak: http://wiki.eclipse.org/JDT/Eclipse_Java_7_Support_(BETA)
[12:32:25] <ron> Eclipse 3.7.1 will support Java 7 inherently.
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[12:33:37] <lisak> ok, thanks... the 4.1 release is confusing
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[13:29:03] <rcjsuen_> lisak: What is confusing?
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[13:29:55] <lisak> existence of 4.1 version and all the e4 incubator  SDK stuff
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[13:30:10] <lisak> the more I was reading that the more I didn't understand it
[13:31:20] <nitind> Example?
[13:33:49] <lisak> the reason for two development 'branches' 3.7 and 4.1
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[13:36:12] <rcjsuen> lisak: Having one branch only makes sense if you can convince all your clients to upgrade.
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[13:36:42] <rcjsuen> Well, that or you just choose to ignore all issues filed by people from the old branch. ;)
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[13:39:42] <lisak> I believe the e4 project got slowed down due to java 7 release delays, because  ! e4 is the incubator for Eclipse 4.0, to be released 2010 !
[13:40:04] <lisak> 2010 ?
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[13:40:34] <rcjsuen> Eclipse 4.0 was released in 2010. 4.1 was released in 2011. e4 is an incubator project for evaluating technologies.
[13:40:49] <rcjsuen> 'e4' confuses people, this is certainly true.
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[13:41:41] <lisak> though eclipse ide 4.1 exists :)
[13:42:52] <rcjsuen> ?
[13:42:57] <rcjsuen> As I said, 4.1 was released in 2011 :o
[13:44:05] <lisak> but you also said that e4 is a project for evaluation technologies, not eclipse ide itself
[13:44:38] <lisak> doesn't matter, I start to understand
[13:44:39] <rcjsuen> lisak: After evaluation, the technolgoy may be incorporated into another project.
[13:44:50] <rcjsuen> In this case, the Eclipse 4 model graduated and went into the Eclipse 4.x SDK.
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[13:47:15] <lisak> ok, thanks...btw if I wanted to checkout / clone all projects that form  Eclipse IDE for Java Developers
[13:47:23] <lisak> git preferably
[13:47:30] <lisak> do I clone one by one ?
[13:47:36] <rcjsuen> They're not all on Git.
[13:47:49] <rcjsuen> Though I guess the ones that aren't would be mirrored on GitHub...I think.
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[13:47:50] <lisak> from http://git.eclipse.org/c/
[13:48:41] <lisak> alright, I'll get a few of them and finally take a closer loog
[13:48:42] <lisak> k
[13:48:43] <rcjsuen> JDT and the XML editor isn't on Git yet
[13:49:03] <rcjsuen> Mylyn is though.
[13:49:11] <lisak> but is it a plan to migrate to git, right ?
[13:49:14] <rcjsuen> Though I am not sure why you would want to entire source.
[13:49:46] <rcjsuen> lisak: JDT will move to Git. I cannot speak for the XML editor.
[13:50:09] <rcjsuen> Maybe nitind knows something.
[13:50:45] <lisak> I want to look at jdt, org.eclipse.platform, org.eclipse.wb ... possibly org.eclipse.equinox
[13:51:23] <rcjsuen> I think WindowBuilder is in Subversion.
[13:51:37] <rcjsuen> At least
[13:51:39] <rcjsuen> They were in Subversion
[13:51:43] <rcjsuen> I don't think they migrated to Git.
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[13:55:40] <lisak> got it, thank you rcjsuen
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[14:02:45] <rcjsuen> herlimenezes: Not sure I understand what your problem is here.
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[14:09:35] <nitind> We're evaluating, during Juno, moving WTP to Git, for after Juno, but I'm honestly not sold on the advantages.  I'm unclear on what limitations CVS has imposed on people that merit the extra overhead.
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[14:16:25] <ecfuser11044> hi all
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[14:22:52] <_pingu> can somebody recommend a plugin to create a class diagram for existing java code?
[14:23:26] <_pingu> or is there a way without a plugin?
[14:23:34] <nitind> No.
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[14:28:40] <rcjsuen> nitind: I like being able to link to a commit instead of attaching a patch.
[14:28:47] <rcjsuen> and...that's about it I guess
[14:28:48] <rcjsuen> lol
[14:29:00] <rcjsuen> and of course reverting said commit is also trivial
[14:30:53] <rcjsuen> nitind: Which ML is this migration being discussed on btw?
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[14:49:36] <ronr___> how can I find out when WTP 3.3.1 is going to be released?
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[15:12:29] <Caterpillar> Why in server -> add new server-> if I select tomcat 6 or 7 I am not able to write the name and go forward? http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8148/tomcat.png
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[15:45:02] <ron> Caterpillar: the server name doesn't seem to be grayed out.
[15:45:21] <Caterpillar> ron: if I write inside, it does not write
[15:48:43] <ron> Caterpillar: how did you add support for tomcat 7 in eclipse?
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[15:49:29] <Caterpillar> first of all, in Eclipse, install new software, WST dev tools
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[15:49:39] <Caterpillar> then yum install -y tomcat (is the 7 version for fedora)
[15:49:44] <Caterpillar> and back again in eclipse:
[15:49:48] <Caterpillar> servers->new server
[15:49:56] <Caterpillar> with tomcat 6 it works
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[15:50:05] <ron> just a sec please
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[15:51:13] <jink> ron: Time's up!
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[15:52:15] <ron> jink: hush!
[15:52:19] <jink> :>
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[15:55:01] <ron> Caterpillar: go to Window->Preferences->Runtime Environments
[15:55:31] <ron> Click Add and add a new Tomcat 7 configuration.
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[15:55:40] <Caterpillar> Unknown version of Tomcat was specified.
[15:56:03] <Caterpillar> tomcat installation dir (of 7 version) /usr/share/tomcat
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[15:57:32] <nano-> hey, trying to find the source of the equinox osgi console but my gitweb browsing fu is weak. could someone point me in the right direction?
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[15:59:02] <nano-> What I'm actually interested in is how to get the information printed with "comp 12" in the equinox osgi cli programatically.
[15:59:13] <nano-> The mbeans doesn't seem to expose that.
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[16:02:05] <Zvpun> Hey, I used egit to clone code from a remote git repository to ~/workspace. There is a ~/workspace/foo/.project file, but the project foo does not show up in the Package explorer. I followed the steps 3.2 in http://www.vogella.de/articles/EGit/article.html  and would appreciate a pointer in the right direction very much. I am confused by the fact, that after cloning an import wizard automatically pops up with the option to "import existing projects" "
[16:02:35] <rcjsuen> Zvpun: Check your 'Navigator' view.
[16:05:25] <Zvpun> rcjsuen: since it didn't show up in the navigator view, I redid the whole thing (just to be sure) without it showing up.
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[16:05:41] <rcjsuen> If you just clone a repo
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[16:05:54] <rcjsuen> it just, as a clone is for, gets the files to your fs
[16:06:02] <rcjsuen> you need to import the proj into your ws
[16:06:16] <Zvpun> Is an eclipse Project more than ~/workspace/foo/.project?
[16:06:39] <rcjsuen> The .project file is sufficient.
[16:07:21] <Zvpun> May I rephrase my question then, since I have a ~/workspace/foo/.project file what do I have to do, to see in in Navigator (or package view)?
[16:07:32] <rcjsuen> <rcjsuen> you need to import the proj into your ws
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[16:08:58] <Zvpun> What happens during the import that transforms ~/workspace/foo/* it to show up?
[16:09:15] <rcjsuen> The workspace registers the project with its internal metadata.
[16:09:38] <Zvpun> Is it possible to register a project without (re-)importing it?
[16:09:58] <Zvpun> rcjsuen: I worry that by following your import advice I would lose the git-repository.
[16:10:14] <rcjsuen> Registering your project has nothing to do with your Git metadata.
[16:10:17] <nitind> rcjsuen: No discussion, as it's very early days.  http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Git_Migration_Home
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[16:10:33] <rcjsuen> Gerrit at Eclipse - some day, when bug 283749 is resolved, we will have our own Gerrit code review system hosted at Eclipse.org.
[16:10:34] <rcjsuen> lol
[16:11:02] <nano-> Is it possible to search code in all git repositories at git.eclipse.org somehow?
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[16:11:28] <Zvpun> rcjsuen: Before I came here, I tried importing it, but since ~/workspace/foo/ was already in use by me, Eclipse aborted with a message stating that the directory is already in use. Thus I clonded to /tmp/foo, during an import /tmp/foo/.git is not copied (imho) and I thinkg that the repositry is lost during import.
[16:11:32] <nano-> google doesn't seem to have indexed it all, tried searching with site:git.eclipse.org for strings available in the equinox osgi cli.
[16:12:00] <nitind> ron: bookmark http://www.eclipse.org/projects/timeline/
[16:12:09] <rcjsuen> nano-: Sounds like you might as well just clone Equinox and then do the search yourself.
[16:12:37] <rcjsuen> Unless you specify in the import to copy the contents, the import will not copy, that is an accurate assessment.
[16:12:57] <nano-> If I knew what repository to clone I would have done it.. git://git.eclipse.org/gitroot/equinox/rt.equinox.framework.git did not contain any hints of the osgi console at least.
[16:14:44] <Zvpun> rcjsuen: alright, I'll try. Thank you for your help.
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[16:15:39] <rcjsuen> nano-: Did you try the bundles repository/
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[16:16:45] <nitind> rcjsuen: Also, http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-dev/msg08210.html
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[16:21:03] <njdoyle> I'm having trouble with a Java build path. I have one Java project that depends on another. The first project has the second project listed in Java Build Path -> Projects. When editing code in the first project, Organize Imports and the Type Explorer finds all relevant classes from the second project but as soon as I save, I'm told that imports cannot be resolved. Any ideas?
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[16:21:42] <nitind> Is the second project exporting all of its contents from its Java Build Path?
[16:21:55] <njdoyle> nitind, it is
[16:22:10] <nitind> types are in packages?
[16:22:16] <njdoyle> yes
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[16:32:43] <iArnaud> hi guys
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[16:33:26] <iArnaud> I have a problem and I don't know if it come from eclipse or subclipse
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[16:35:45] <nitind> describing the problem might help
[16:37:07] <Alvo> hi i am editing local files on eclipse, how can i synchronize the remote counterpart vis ssh/sftp?
[16:38:10] <iArnaud> My issue is related to the compare/diff of subclipse.
[16:40:48] <iArnaud> if I overwrite a file synced the repository with a file from my ftp. The content is exactly the same but subclipse (or eclipse) show it as modified file. I think i must be related to spaces/tabs or removing trailing spaces or something like that but I cannot fix it by my own
[16:41:35] <ron> nitind: thanks. that's really useful. there's a bug there that I'm not sure if/how I can work around.
[16:45:52] <iArnaud> nitind: could you help me on this?
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[16:48:36] <nitind> iArnaud: Try the General->Compare/Patch preference page.  Otherwise, you'll have to talk to Subclipse.  The timestamp probably needs to agree for it to not be different.
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[16:56:51] <iArnaud> nitind: Thanks. I double check my General->Compare/Patch preference page but nothing change
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[16:57:27] <khamer> Trying to figure out a way to force eclipse to always redeploy even if all I've touched is resources files
[16:57:29] <khamer> *resource
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[17:48:48] <Caterpillar> yawn, damn tomcat 7
[17:49:42] <nitind> I think youwant #tomcat, then.
[17:51:16] <Caterpillar> no it's an eclipse problem
[17:51:20] <Caterpillar> like I wrote previously
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[17:55:18] <nitind> ~tomcat-faq
[17:55:18] <Arbalest> Trying to the tame the wild Apache Tomcat while using the reins of the Eclipse Web Tools Platform? Our friendly FAQ may be just what you need - http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Tomcat_FAQ
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[17:55:30] <nitind> Basically, a yum-installed version is never expected to work.
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[17:57:36] <Caterpillar> nitind: but yum installed tomcat6 works
[17:58:56] <rcjsuen> That would be "luck" then.
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[17:59:28] <rcjsuen> Just because something works when we expect it to not is not an indicator that X will continue working in the future.
[17:59:30] <Caterpillar> so you suggest to install the tomcat from official website
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[18:01:45] <Caterpillar> ?
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[18:09:00] <MapMan> how can I disable underlining of "typos" in my source code?
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[18:09:17] <MapMan> i dont want to see spelling errors or whatever
[18:09:49] <ualtin> Window->Preference type in Spelling
[18:09:51] <ualtin> disable it
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[18:12:02] <MapMan> ualtin: thank you, that was exactly what I was looking for.
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[18:12:38] <ualtin> np
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[18:19:49] <SeySayux> Hey, I just upgraded to Indigo? where's my EGit?
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[18:30:12] <atpa8a> hello
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[18:34:17] <ecfuser37143> o
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[18:40:25] <SeySayux> Hey, I just upgraded to Indigo? where's my EGit? [repeat from 20 minutes ago due to flaky connection]
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[18:51:06] <Caterpillar> burp
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[19:01:51] <rcjsuen> SeySayux: Not sure I understand your question.
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[19:02:05] <rcjsuen> SeySayux: Did you try to install the plug-in?
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[19:02:49] <SeySayux> rcjsuen: The plugin was installed in Helios, I upgraded, the plugin is still shown as installed, but no trace of it (Git menu and toolbar are gone, right click->Team doesn't show git options anymore, ...)
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[19:06:57] <Caterpillar> Ehy, I solved my previous problem with Eclipse+tomcat7 installed from repos of fedora
[19:07:17] <Caterpillar> it's all about permissions of /etc/tomcat/ AND/OR /usr/share/tomcat/conf/ I am a noob with linux permissions, so I did a chown caterpillar -R for each of them
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[19:19:48] <atpa8a> hmm
[19:20:43] <atpa8a> when i try to publish a maven web project to a server, eclipse doesn't put maven libraries into WEB-INF/lib
[19:20:53] <atpa8a> what gives?
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[19:27:27] <briandealwis> atpa8a: you mean using m2eclipse?  does it work if you use mvn externally?
[19:29:24] <atpa8a> yes
[19:29:35] <atpa8a> briandealwis: apparently i needed m2e-wtp
[19:29:52] <briandealwis> that was going to be my next question
[19:30:35] <atpa8a> thanks :)
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[19:32:09] <atpa8a> was driving me crazy :P
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[19:55:11] <nitind> Caterpillar: Not install, just unpack.
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[20:07:16] <wfq> hi guys
[20:07:36] <wfq> how do I reset my enviroment configuration to be as it was originally when eclipse was installed?
[20:07:38] <wfq> thanks
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[20:09:54] <purestrain> does eclipse/eclipse java compiler really benefit from 4 cores compared to two?
[20:10:45] <briandealwis> wfq: open your preferences, and select "Restore Defaults"
[20:10:58] <briandealwis> ?for the various pages
[20:12:04] <wfq> briandelwis, tried that but it seems not to work
[20:12:31] <briandealwis> wfq: I guess you'll need to be a bit more specific ? what part of your environment do you want to reset?
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[20:13:20] <wfq> briandealwis, I just had my eclipse connected to aremote machine so all that I need is to get the project navigation and code windows when remote view is set up
[20:13:37] <wfq> I went to windows->preferences->restore defaults but nothing happneed
[20:13:40] <wfq> *happened
[20:13:51] <wfq> tried to restart eclipse but the same result
[20:14:09] <briandealwis> wfq: what do you mean "connected to a remote machine" ? what's actually wrong?
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[20:14:20] <wfq> no worries, got it working
[20:14:31] <briandealwis> oh good :)
[20:14:40] <wfq> all that I needed is just go to reset Pespective
[20:15:24] <wfq> this environment is brilliant, don't know why on earth I am using netbeans for java
[20:15:28] <wfq> miss it a lot
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[20:16:33] <davetoo> ok, I'm lost.  Using PyDev, trying to solve my awful performance when a number of windows/projects are open,
[20:17:11] <davetoo> something I did has stopped the behavior of skipping over the closing paren/bracket of autogenerated parens, when i type the closing character.
[20:17:23] <davetoo> I'm confused by the names of the different options.
[20:18:09] <davetoo> for example, used to be, when creating a new method inside of a clase,
[20:18:11] <davetoo> clas;
[20:18:13] <davetoo> ssss
[20:18:23] <davetoo> " def mname( "
[20:18:37] <davetoo> would complete to "def mname(self): "
[20:19:09] <davetoo> and by typing " ): " my cursor would  skip to the end.
[20:19:16] <nitind> Check if there's a
[20:19:34] <nitind> Check if there's a "Typing" preference page for PyDev.  Otherwise, I think you need to check their doc/forums.
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[20:19:42] <davetoo> there is
[20:20:20] <davetoo> ah, ok,
[20:21:42] <davetoo> how odd...
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[20:21:54] <davetoo> so now I've got it to where, if I manually skip the closing paren,
[20:22:01] <davetoo> typing ':' does the right thing
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[20:29:43] <myusuf3_> anyone have experience tycho version bump plugin
[20:29:46] <myusuf3_> good or bad?
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[20:29:52] <myusuf3_> I am thinking about tryign it out
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[21:39:44] <zulu-gula> I have a problem when commiting changes to repository, files are commited, but they are still has status "modified" or "new" in eclipse project browser. I tried to clean up, replace by last version from repository, but I still have problem with this icons
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[21:46:13] <nitind> zulu-gula: CVS?
[21:47:02] <zulu-gula> svn
[21:47:14] <nitind> zulu-gula: Which one?  Sounds like you have a bug.
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[21:50:34] <zulu-gula> I need to check, wait please
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[21:54:07] <zulu-gula> weird, I started validate process and it's ok now
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[22:14:10] <Hackwar> hi folks, I want to write a code formatting style for PHP in Eclipse. I tried searching on google, but somehow I cant find the right searchword. Any hint what I should search for to find some documentation on that?
[22:14:43] <rcjsuen> IContentFormatter
[22:14:48] <Hackwar> thx
[22:14:58] <rcjsuen> Though I guess you could always go all-in and just manipulate the IDocument
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[22:57:51] <ron> whoever picked the colors for the legend in the release master timeline - really hates color blind people.
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[22:58:50] <xeon> why eclipse keep complaining HOME environment variable is not set even it is set?
[22:59:02] <ron> because it's not set properly.
[22:59:03] <ron> :)
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[23:03:11] <briandealwis> xeon: have you exported it in your shell?
[23:04:42] <xeon> briandealwis: windows
[23:05:05] <briandealwis> huh, I never knew Eclipse used HOME in Windows
[23:05:06] <xeon> i set it through desktop
[23:06:06] <xeon> Egit uses that
[23:07:50] <xeon> yes ,it should use HOMEDRIVE and HOMEPATH instead of HOME in Windows. but it complains at startup.
[23:09:05] <xeon> a bug for indigo?
[23:10:16] <ron> if you windows+r and then you type %HOME% and press enter.. does anything (other than an error) open up?
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[23:12:57] <mpiggott> xeon: Is this a popup or ... ?
[23:13:15] <xeon> mpiggott: yes popup
[23:13:31] <mpiggott> xeon: Pretty sure egit allows you to hide the dialog in future
[23:14:28] * ron nods
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[23:17:51] <buhman> I forgot, in CDT; where do I specify that I want C99?
[23:18:00] <buhman> gcc99 specifically
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[23:44:09] <faffi> hey im having issues googling for a question. I've got a bunch of plugin projects running inside an application and i want to query the osgi state programatically to see what state theyre in
[23:45:01] <faffi> I figured out how to do it inside my virgo kernel by using the mbean object but i dont see something similar for a regular osgi enabled application?
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