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[00:17:57] <Caterpillar> nitind: what about tomcat6 installation directory? Eclipse need it
[00:18:12] <Caterpillar> Should not be /usr/share/java/tomcat6 ?
[00:18:18] <Caterpillar> I am on fedora
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[00:31:58] <Caterpillar> yawn
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[00:34:06] <Cosmoe> hi guys ... i'm trying to get Eclipse set up and running for C++ dev. on Windows with MinGW, though I can't work out why i'm getting symbol resolution errors for cout
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[02:10:04] <TheGoof> hi
[02:10:06] <TheGoof> i have error
[02:10:08] <TheGoof> java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no lwjgl in java.library.path
[02:10:20] <TheGoof> it is oin my libarary and i compile
[02:10:25] <TheGoof> why will it not run ?
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[02:18:02] <paulweb515_> TheGoof: what's your java.library.path set to?
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[02:18:22] <paulweb515_> TheGoof: are you trying to run a java program from within eclipse, or the command line
[02:18:23] <paulweb515_> ?
[02:18:31] <TheGoof> from eclipse
[02:18:47] <TheGoof> I do not define java.library.path outside or inside eclipse
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[02:19:25] <TheGoof> doesn't eclipse pick it up itself
[02:19:29] <TheGoof> like, it did compile
[02:19:58] <TheGoof> ??>
[02:20:44] <paulweb515_> TheGoof:
[02:20:45] <paulweb515_> no
[02:20:59] <paulweb515_> java programs compile against the jogl.jar
[02:20:59] <TheGoof> so I have to define this inside of eclipse?
[02:21:09] <paulweb515_> jogl.jar needs a native library
[02:21:11] <paulweb515_> see https://sites.google.com/site/justinscsstuff/jogl-tutorial-1
[02:21:52] <paulweb515_> TheGoof: when you set up an external jar, you can tell it where to find external native libraries ...
[02:22:03] <TheGoof> k
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[02:58:45] <TheGoof> darn
[02:58:53] <TheGoof> this program using directx8
[02:58:58] <TheGoof> I bet it will not work with latset sdk
[02:59:02] <TheGoof> all this for notbing
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[03:00:07] <TheGoof> aint that a bitch
[03:00:21] <TheGoof> son of a beech
[03:01:09] <schwinn434> hello
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[03:02:05] <TheGoof> hi
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[08:30:01] <hlv> Anyone knows how to create the toolbar used in the eclipse plugin manifest editor?
[08:35:14] <mihael> which toolbar do you mean?
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[08:35:41] <hlv> hmm, let me find a link
[08:36:04] <mihael> the plugin editor uses forms ui
[08:36:46] <hlv> I used the ViewForm, but it is different. If it is what you meant?
[08:36:56] <mihael> http://www.eclipse.org/articles/Article-Forms/article.html
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[08:38:56] <hlv> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/fa/3898/
[08:39:06] <hlv> the top "overview" toolbar
[08:39:54] <hlv> oh, right, Forms!
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[08:41:12] <hlv> Thanks mihael for the link
[08:41:38] <mihael> there is another one somewhere which got exactly what you need. though i can't find it right now
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[08:42:26] <mihael> http://www.eclipse.org/articles/article.php?file=Article-Forms33/index.html
[08:42:29] <mihael> thats the one you need
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[08:44:00] <hlv> great, thanks!
[08:44:04] <mihael> np
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[09:50:59] <mihael> osgi question: do i need to return the service somehow when i get it via a servicetracker?
[09:51:20] <tasslehoff> where does one control the highlight of the word currently typed and of semantic popups? the default colors are such that I can't see what I'm typing
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[10:00:14] <ron> tasslehoff: semantic popups?
[10:00:38] <ron> mihael: you may want to try asking that in ##java if you don't get a reply here.
[10:00:59] <mihael> ron: thanx. got a reply on #osgi
[10:01:21] <ron> great :) didn't realize there's such a channel. good to know.
[10:01:22] <mihael> ron: though we are still working on the subject
[10:01:23] <tasslehoff> ron: [tm] :) , I mean the popups I get when I hover over a e.g. function call
[10:02:27] <ron> tasslehoff: oh, my bad. those are two different cases you were talking about. sec.
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[10:03:56] <ron> tasslehoff: try looking around at Windows->Preferences->General->Appearance->Colors and Fonts.
[10:05:32] <tasslehoff> ron: been there, but didn't find it. it must be there though, so I'll re-look :)
[10:06:23] <ron> tasslehoff: Java or other language?
[10:06:35] <tasslehoff> ron: CDT
[10:06:45] <ron> ah.
[10:07:41] <ron> Also look at General->Editors->Text Editors
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[10:12:51] <tasslehoff> ron: there it was. C/C++ write occurences and occurences. thanks.
[10:13:14] <ron> tasslehoff: sure thing.
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[10:14:59] * tasslehoff wonders if seeing what he types will make his code better or worse
[10:15:12] <ron> hehe
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[10:22:10] <Caleb--> the jface documentation is shit
[10:22:40] <Caleb--> all the books on jface/swt are outdated
[10:22:57] <Caleb--> and the web is full of examples that use outdated APIs
[10:23:05] * Caleb-- bangs his head against the wall
[10:24:16] <mihael> that is the nature of the web
[10:24:24] <mihael> nothing eclipse/jface can help with
[10:24:48] <mihael> if nobody writes new stuff you will only find the old stuff
[10:25:04] <Caleb--> no, that is the nature of eclipse/jface documentation
[10:25:34] <ron> nobody's forcing you to use it :)
[10:25:52] <Caleb--> that has nothing to do with what i said.
[10:26:33] <Caleb--> no one's forcing me to use it, sure, but that doesn't detract from the fact that the docs suck
[10:27:13] <ron> actually, it does. I understand that sometimes open source projects lack documentation, but you get your money's worth. don't like it? don't use it. want to help? learn it from the code and contribute. bitching about it is simply pointless.
[10:27:13] <mihael> i know that it doesn't 100% fit this case but most people forget that the software is open source. most of the time people don't get anything for writing it.
[10:27:30] * ron high-5's mihael
[10:27:35] <mihael> =)
[10:28:53] <ron> for example, lucene/solr's documentation is horrendous. I hate it. but, I find my way around it. not much can be done about it unless I want to get my company to shell out loads and loads of money on a commercial product that does the same, not necessarily even better.
[10:29:12] <Caleb--> first of all, i'm way into a project that already uses it, so i can't stop using it.  second of all, learning it from the code is not that simple. there are way too many abstract classes, and god knows what is the proper way of setting things up
[10:29:42] <ron> the life of a developer just.. isn't easy.
[10:29:52] <ron> if it were, any monkey could do it.
[10:30:00] <Caleb--> are you telling me that no one gets paid to write eclipse/jface code? that sounds like BS to me
[10:30:19] <mihael> and that is what i meant with "it doesn't fit this case 100%"
[10:30:47] <mihael> in the eclipse and mostly also the apache case there are companies which backup the projects with developers
[10:30:57] <ron> actually, it's doesn't matter. some people get paid to do it, but they're paid to develop eclipse, not to manage the eclipse project.
[10:31:02] <mihael> but there are also many contributes who do things in their spare time
[10:31:17] <ron> so 'documentation' is normally isn't up on their list.
[10:31:24] <mihael> caleb: ... what is exactly your problem?
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[10:31:50] <Caleb--> i'm just trying to figure out jface databinding
[10:31:59] <mihael> why didn't you say so
[10:32:06] <mihael> perhaps a little more details?
[10:32:07] <Caleb--> and the various viewers (mainly combo viewer and table viewer)
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[10:32:28] <mihael> i got databinding setup in one project here, perhaps i can help
[10:32:40] <mihael> (so it is a very simple case )
[10:32:44] <ron> I'm just glad I don't do client-side programming :)
[10:32:48] <mihael> =)
[10:32:52] * Caleb-- stones roaet_
[10:32:53] <Caleb--> ron*
[10:32:58] <ron> :p
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[10:33:12] <ron> hey, I'm a server-side person to the bones. can't blame me for that.
[10:33:15] <mihael> with eclipse rcp client side development is fun
[10:33:24] <mihael> also doing some osgi stuff now
[10:33:30] <mihael> which is also very much fun
[10:33:33] <ron> mihael: I bet some people consider poking their eyes out fun as well :p
[10:33:39] <mihael> =)
[10:34:10] <mihael> when compared with anything else (rich client) eclipse rcp development IS fun
[10:34:12] <Caleb--> mihael, i got some basic stuff set up, like hooking up bean properties to textboxes
[10:34:24] <mihael> try doing this stuff in swing *puke*
[10:34:52] <ron> what I hate most about client-side development is that it eventually has.... users. users are a pain in the neck :)
[10:34:58] <Caleb--> now i need to do similar things with comboviewer and tableviewer
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[10:35:18] <mihael> ron: think about the reason you got your job? it IS the users!
[10:35:33] <Caleb--> no, ron writes for soulless servers
[10:35:34] <Caleb--> :P
[10:35:35] <mihael> caleb: *taking a look at the last project*
[10:35:38] <mihael> =)
[10:36:19] <Caleb--> although i am proud of myself for figuring out how to add propertychange support for hibernate mapping xml :D
[10:36:36] <Caleb--> so now all my auto generated persistent java classes fire up events automatically
[10:37:00] <ron> mihael: true, however, I don't need to deal with them or care about them, so NYA :p
[10:37:02] <Caleb--> all that's left now is databinding, validation and editing support for tableviewers
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[10:37:16] <tasslehoff> hum, inconsolata is a monospace font in my emacs, but not in eclipse. what could cause that??
[10:37:51] <mihael> WritableList contactsList = new WritableList(editor.getModel().getContacts(), Person.class);
[10:37:55] <mihael>         ViewerSupport.bind(contacts, contactsList, BeanProperties.values(Person.class, new String[] {
[10:37:57] <mihael>                         "firstName", "lastName", "conventionalPhone", "mobilePhone", "email"
[10:37:59] <mihael>         }));
[10:38:13] <mihael> contacts is a TableViewer
[10:38:13] <dusi> control is going somewhere while debugging the code in eclipse.... Can anyone help me?
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[10:38:28] <Caleb--> mihael, can you create new WritableLists for the same model objects in a few places ?
[10:38:48] <Caleb--> like if you have one shared list you want to observe from multiple windows
[10:38:48] <ron> tasslehoff: umm, are you sure you set it up as the font?
[10:39:03] <ron> dusi: rephrase?
[10:39:44] <mihael> caleb: i don't know if the ui is get updated if the bean properties change? my guess would be: no. but i really don't know.
[10:40:26] <dusi> <ron>, i'm debugging c++ code using eclipse-helios.... while debugging control is to some other function (but not the exact one it has to go)
[10:40:44] <Caleb--> mihael, so that ViewerSupport line binds the contactlist to the tableviewer, no need to do anything else?   i still need to write a content provider and a label provider for the table?   (and do i need to call .setInput() on the table, or does the databinding take care of setting the input) ?
[10:41:43] <tasslehoff> ron: yes. selecting inconsolate,medium,10 in my C/C++ editor text font causes a "skew" in my code. in monospace things are ok.
[10:42:10] <mihael> caleb: of course you need a label provider (ui decoupled from data)
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[10:42:15] <mihael> caleb: viewer.setContentProvider(new ObservableListContentProvider());
[10:42:17] <dusi> <ron>did u get my point?
[10:42:21] <Caleb--> mihael, oh, that's all?
[10:42:25] <mihael> yes
[10:42:46] <Caleb--> that's much better. from all the stuff i read i thought i also needed my own content provider
[10:42:46] <ron> dusi: okay, my first recommendation would be to upgrade to Indigo, if you can. other than that, unfortunately, CDT is not very common here, so you may have better luck using the ~forums
[10:42:47] <Arbalest> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/
[10:43:08] <ron> tasslehoff: can you paste a screenshot? ~image
[10:43:08] <Arbalest> Please upload your screenshots online and then paste the link back to the channel - http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add - http://www.freeimagehosting.net/ - http://imagebin.ca/upload.php - http://imageshack.us/
[10:43:25] <Caleb--> mihael, thanks, did you also write anything for a ComboViewer by any chance?
[10:44:39] <mihael> caleb: this seems to be more or less an up-to-date tutorial: http://www.vogella.de/articles/EclipseDataBinding/article.html
[10:46:01] <tasslehoff> ron: actually not until monday.. my work-computer can't be connected to my home-internet because of security reasons. I'll try to remember on monday. Sorry :/
[10:46:47] <Caleb--> mihael, thanks i'm reading it now. :)
[10:46:52] <ron> tasslehoff: no worries, didn't realize it's not the same computer. just make sure set the correct font setting... it can be a bit tricky.
[10:47:00] <mihael> caleb: np
[10:47:17] <ron> tasslehoff: I'm actually considering trying out that font, though the default font in Indigo is not bad at all.
[10:47:24] <ron> on windows, that is.
[10:48:46] <dusi> ron, thanks
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[10:50:29] <ron> tasslehoff: which os are you on?
[10:52:50] <ron> hmm... gotta go to the butcher shop. bbiab.
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[10:56:52] <tasslehoff> ron: ubuntu is where I have the issue
[11:02:41] <ron> tasslehoff: I see. that's too bad. the font you want and the default font on windows are fairly similar.
[11:04:51] <Caterpillar> how is it possible to change tomcat port in Eclipse? I looked for it in internet but for example this website http://techteam.wordpress.com/2009/02/13/changing-the-tomcat-port-settings-in-eclipse/ speaks about a "server" tab that I cannot find
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[11:08:29] <ualtin> Window-> show view -> Other
[11:08:50] <ualtin> type in server... there you go
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[11:10:09] <Caterpillar> ualtin: wow thanks, I did not imagine that was so easy
[11:10:17] <ualtin> np
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[11:41:22] <Alvo> in intellij i can open a dialog with a single keystroke: generate getter/setter, overwrite methods, generate constructors etc.
[11:41:32] <Alvo> in eclipse i have to learn many keys for this :(
[11:41:49] <Alvo> or even have to assign any
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[11:45:31] <acron17> hi there! i'm using cdt for editing a makefile project
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[11:46:03] <acron17> i'm having the problem that there are some defines in the makefile which eclipse does not knoww about
[11:47:26] <ualtin> Alvo: what is your question
[11:47:59] <ron> Alvo: learn to use ctrl+3.
[11:48:06] <acron17> is there any solution to make eclipse and make to know the defines? i need to have eclipse and make compile the source with the same defines...
[11:49:10] <Alvo> ron ok thx
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[11:56:27] <deSilva> acron17: add -DMY_DEFINE=1337 to CXXFLAGS?
[11:57:55] <acron17> deSilva: thanks for your answer. what i really want to achieve is that both eclipse and make use the same source for the defines
[11:58:32] <acron17> i do not want to have to change all defines in the makefile and in the eclipse configuration of the project
[12:04:10] <acron17> the problem is the indexer not the compilation of course, because for the latter the makefile is used...
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[14:32:01] <kkirk> hi
[14:32:56] <kkirk> i'm using eclipse for a while and i first encounterd with this problem with 3.4, i yesterday upgraded to 3.7 and the problem looks like still exists
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[14:33:22] <kkirk> i would like someone to confirm the problem: it takes a minute
[14:34:46] <kkirk> open a java source, comment a line with '//', and try 'Ctrl+L'[shortcuts] / uncomment (it should disappear), press ctrl+l and select comment -- it doesn't come back...
[14:36:36] <rcjsuen> Ctrl+I?
[14:36:46] <rcjsuen> oh, Ctrl+L
[14:36:57] <rcjsuen> But Ctrl+L has nothing to do with commenting...
[14:37:04] <kkirk> ctrl+shift+l sorry for that
[14:37:31] <kkirk> rcjsuen: ctrl+shift+l brings up the availibe shortcuts - where comment/uncomment is listed
[14:37:58] <kkirk> doh...maybe only if it's set to anything...
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[14:58:03] <fantomas> Hi all. I think about moving from Eclipse PDT (PHP) to Zend Studio.
[14:58:49] <fantomas> Did anybody try both of them?
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[15:03:11] <soc42> hi #eclipses
[15:03:13] <soc42> anyone familiad with the configuration of eclipse indigo with egit/jgit?
[15:03:15] <soc42> i am trying to connect to a remote repo from within egit
[15:03:19] <soc42> and i only get some error messages while trying to clone from the remote repo via ssh
[15:03:36] <soc42> egit is raising a "transport error: Cannot list available branches. Reason: Invalid paket line header: Allo"
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[15:03:46] <soc42> whatever this means?
[15:05:15] <rcjsuen> Can you clone from CGit?
[15:06:14] <soc42> i can clone from command line, yes
[15:06:39] <soc42> seems to be something wrong with the path in the egit plugin
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[15:08:15] <soc42> but i can't figure out what it is...
[15:10:31] <soc42> maybe it's about the slashes while trying to clone the remote repo from a windows machine
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[15:40:44] <arobert> Hi, is there a PDT commiter here ?
[15:41:24] <ron> doubtful. but ask your question.
[15:42:56] <soc42> well, i recently changed from PDT to standard Eclipse Indigo with PHP Programming Language Tools
[15:43:07] <soc42> as plugin
[15:43:29] <ron> basically, the same thing.
[15:44:33] <arobert> soc42: Does it work better ?
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[15:44:59] <soc42> i think it's more stable and faster
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[15:45:07] <arobert> Because for me PDT is really "bad" .. sorry for PDT commiters .. I'm sure they work hard but in my case I can't work efficiently with ..
[15:45:19] <soc42> and for pdt it think the latest release is helios
[15:45:57] <arobert> soc42: Do you have an update site for PHP Programming Language Tools ?
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[15:47:01] <soc42> sure. this site is present in the first setup / install:  http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/3.7
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[15:47:53] <soc42> you'll have to wait to see all the available packages and the just "filter" for PHP and you'll see the PHP Programming Language Tools
[15:48:06] <soc42> it's as easy as it could be
[15:48:35] <soc42> ups... i'm sorry...
[15:48:37] <soc42> almost
[15:48:57] <soc42> there are two update site present at first initial startup after install
[15:49:03] <soc42> it's the second one...
[15:49:23] <soc42> http://download.eclipse.org/releases/indigo
[15:49:27] <soc42> take this update site
[15:49:47] <soc42> and proceed with filtering for PHP
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[15:50:13] <arobert> indeed it looks quite easy :)
[15:50:29] <soc42> you'll then find "PHP Development Tools (PDT) SDK Feature v3.0.0.v20110516-1100-77--84_23..."
[15:50:48] <ron> I still there's a much simpler solution than that.
[15:52:20] <soc42> come on, tell us ;o)
[15:52:38] <ron> don't use php.
[15:53:29] <soc42> pardon?
[15:53:52] <soc42> love it?
[15:53:54] <ron> was that not clear enough? :)
[15:54:19] <soc42> you mean you'll only run into problems with php?
[15:54:32] <ron> no, not at all.
[15:55:53] <arobert> ron .. My project is made of PHP files ... what do u suggest to use instead to develop my project ?
[15:56:54] <ron> arobert: anything else :) even PL/1 :)
[15:56:57] <arobert> soc42 > You told me : "i recently changed from PDT to standard Eclipse Indigo with PHP Programming Language Tools" ... But it is still PDT ?
[15:57:33] <arobert> What is PL/1 ?
[15:57:46] <soc42> nope, but it behaves like pdt and i assume there is no difference, but performs better
[15:58:03] <ron> arobert: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/PL/I
[15:58:20] <arobert> soc42: I just checked ... indeed it's exactly what I was using ... and I have many problems with that version ...
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[15:58:46] <soc42> of what kind?
[15:58:58] <arobert> ron> ??? My project consist in more that 3000 Php File ...
[15:59:12] <arobert> Are you suggesting me to transform my PHP file into PL/1 files ?
[15:59:24] * ron sighs.
[15:59:31] <ron> No, no I don't.
[15:59:43] <arobert> Then ... ?
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[16:00:16] <ron> mirror dude!
[16:00:22] <ron> then nothing, forget it.
[16:00:28] <arobert> :)
[16:00:44] <arobert> Anyway .. thanks soc42 for the help ...
[16:00:45] <mpiggott> arobert: He is teasing you :p
[16:01:00] <ron> mpiggott: teasing. right :)
[16:01:15] <rcjsuen> That would be the nice way of putting it.
[16:01:18] <arobert> My problem is maybe linked to the fact that i'm developping on a mount disk ...
[16:02:00] <arobert> That doesn't seem to be a good idea on a big Project ...
[16:02:37] <arobert> Someone knows how to install last DLTK 3 ?
[16:02:51] <soc42> well, i am also trying to develop a large project on a sshfs connection from a mac machine connected to a windows server
[16:03:03] <soc42> but the sshfs support seems quite unstable
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[16:03:27] <soc42> if you're not forced to work on the server, don't do it
[16:03:51] <soc42> bandwidth and stability problems always occur and you might lose files!
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[16:05:15] <arobert> soc42> ... I'm almost "forced" to ..
[16:05:30] <arobert> It depends on my IT service ...
[16:05:46] <soc42> what problems occur?
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[16:07:58] <diverdude> Where do i find eclipse.ini in ubuntu 11.04?
[16:08:16] <rcjsuen> diverdude: How did you install Eclipse?
[16:08:30] <diverdude> rcjsuen, using synaptic
[16:08:37] <rcjsuen> diverdude: Ask the #eclipse-linux people then.
[16:08:38] <diverdude> sudo apt-get install eclipse
[16:09:07] <ron> diverdude: don't so that.
[16:09:15] <diverdude> ?
[16:09:26] <ron> don't install eclipse that way.
[16:09:59] <diverdude> why
[16:10:19] <ron> because it's extremely outdated.
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[16:11:15] <diverdude> its Version: 3.5.2
[16:11:37] <diverdude> is that very old?
[16:11:52] <ron> about a year and a half.
[16:11:59] <rcjsuen> it's Feb 2010. If that's "old" to you, then yes.
[16:12:03] <rcjsuen> If it's not old to you, then no.
[16:12:09] <diverdude> hmm yes ok
[16:12:22] <diverdude> i guess a lot of bugs were fixed since then
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[16:12:27] <diverdude> and features added
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[16:14:26] <herlimenezes> Hello, I am developing a webaap in Eclipse. When I run a servlet for the first time, everything is all right, at the second, not. So I go to project tab, and check "clean".  Then it runs ok again...why? How can I avoid this?
[16:14:27] <diverdude> ack i installed it using apt-get install eclipse....but i cannot remove it using apt-get remove eclipse....
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[16:16:59] <ron> herlimenezes: is the build automatically option turned on?
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[16:17:55] <diverdude> how can i remove eclipse?
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[16:18:28] <herlimenezes> ron: no, it is not, should I do it?
[16:18:42] <ron> probably.
[16:18:52] <herlimenezes> ron: ok, thank you.
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[16:22:58] <BeholdMyGlory> I'm running Java 7 on my computer, however I want to develop with Java 6 compatibility in mind. To that end, is it possible to enable warnings when using features not available in Java 6? For example, when using generics with JList Eclipse will say nothing, but when using it as a raw type it will give a warning. I want it the other way around as it was not possible to use generics with JList in Java 6.
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[16:26:09] <ron> BeholdMyGlory: I seriously doubt that JList didn't support generics in Java 6. In any case, assuming you didn't install the beta version of eclipse, your eclipse doesn't support Java 7 anyhow. However, you can always set the Java level of a project.
[16:26:58] <rcjsuen> If you want to be compat with Java 6, why don't you just use Java 6...
[16:27:35] <BeholdMyGlory> Well, looking through the javadocs for Java 6 JList doesn't seem to be a generic class
[16:29:00] <BeholdMyGlory> rcjsuen: I'd rather stay up-to-date with my projects, it's just that when it comes to this specific project Java 6 is a special requirement due to the system it will run on
[16:29:22] <rcjsuen> so just have that proj be Java 6 then
[16:30:57] <BeholdMyGlory> ron: Changing the Java compliance level to 1.6 doesn't seem to help (considering Eclipse didn't support 1.7 to begin with), my guess is that Eclipse looks through the Java library for the class signature
[16:31:17] <arobert> soc42: It's freezing sometimes ...
[16:31:37] <arobert> eften actually
[16:31:41] <arobert> often
[16:31:43] <arobert> *
[16:32:26] <mpiggott> BeholdMyGlory: Add a java 6 JRE.  (Pref > Java > Installed JREs)
[16:32:26] <ron> BeholdMyGlory: just use Java 6.
[16:32:29] <soc42> what about your eclipse.ini configuration, maybe there is something wrong which might cause eclipse to behave unstable
[16:32:33] <BeholdMyGlory> rcjsuen: Yes, I realise that I can install a separate Java environment, however I'd rather use that as a last resort as I really don't want two separate Java environments on the same system
[16:32:49] <arobert> soc42: xms 256
[16:32:53] <arobert> xmX 1024
[16:32:57] <soc42> or it's about your mounted / connection drive
[16:33:18] <arobert> soc42: I think it's that :! (It's my hypothesus)
[16:33:57] <soc42> so call your it-support can tell them that you use a local repository/copy and update frequently
[16:34:34] <arobert> soc42: ... They don't want to maintain IIS on dev computer ...
[16:34:42] <soc42> or check / fix / debug your connection problems
[16:35:56] <arobert> soc42: I tried to run Java Profiler to see where the problem came from without success ... But i'm not expert in using profiler
[16:37:02] <soc42> what kind of connection is it?
[16:39:23] <arobert> i'm on LAN ..
[16:39:32] <arobert> 100Mb/s
[16:39:40] <arobert> Maybe 1000 I'm not sure
[16:40:07] <arobert> By 1000 I mean 1Gb/s
[16:40:15] <arobert> Sorry for purist (1024*)
[16:40:54] <soc42> k, LAN seems to be more stable than wireless connections
[16:41:24] <soc42> what about the connected network drive... what machine are you on and what type of is the server?
[16:43:18] <soc42> mmmh, why not download a new eclipse indigo version, install pdt and see if the freeze problem is still there?
[16:45:20] <arobert> soc42: Actually, I tried on both eclipse 3.6 and 3.7 with new fresh workspace ... I think this is not directly related to PDT ...
[16:45:49] <arobert> Maybe PDT and JS support are indexing files time to time and this is freezing since i'm on a mount disk
[16:46:06] <ron> soc42: which java do you have installed?
[16:47:28] <soc42> i am currently running it on a mac machine with JAVA 1.6 R24
[16:47:50] <ron> soc42: can you paste the output of 'java -version'?
[16:48:25] <soc42> https://gist.github.com/a30fb613e9c4785ca44b
[16:48:40] <arobert> java version "1.6.0_24" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 19.1-b02, mixed mode, sharing)
[16:49:14] <rhineshell> I have some problems, concerning the proxy. I try to get a connection with my localhost. localhost is excluded from proxy, but my app tries to access my localhost via proxy
[16:49:20] <ron> soc42: try updating your java first.
[16:49:21] <rhineshell> where is the problem?
[16:49:38] <soc42> hey ron, my eclipse runs fine!
[16:49:45] <arobert> LOL :)
[16:49:50] <ron> oh?
[16:49:51] <soc42> it's about arobert and his connection problems!
[16:49:58] <ron> oh, sorry :p
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[16:50:24] <arobert> what is the last version of Java ?
[16:50:29] <soc42> for my machine it's the latest java distro from apple
[16:50:48] <arobert> Me too for windows :)
[16:51:14] <ron> the latest should be 1.6.0_26 afair.
[16:51:49] <arobert> Strange .. I did an update this morning
[16:52:25] <arobert> ops .. sorry you're right .. installation was pending
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[16:52:56] <arobert> Oh right ..I remember why .. i hava insuffisiant rights on my machine
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[17:01:57] <soc42> arobert: did you have a look in the eclipse error log?
[17:02:30] <soc42> are there any issues that also might cause trouble?
[17:02:39] <arobert> soc42: What a shame .. no I didn't
[17:03:29] <arobert> soc42: I don't have log
[17:03:41] <arobert> only install.log
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[17:06:07] <arobert> I'm trying with my project In Local ...
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[17:06:30] <arobert> Even if I will not be able to test it on server :)
[17:06:33] <diverdude> does anybody know if there is some sort of ppa or some other way to install eclipse incognito using synaptic
[17:06:37] <arobert> Just testing Eclipse :)
[17:06:52] <arobert> ppa ?
[17:07:21] <diverdude> Personal Package Archives (PPA)
[17:08:18] <arobert> i'm not a good Linux User ... But in my opinion Eclipse only consist of an Archive ... There is no dependency except for Java .. And nothing depends on Eclipse ...
[17:08:43] <arobert> So you could Skip PPA for this program ? (Maybe ... but till i'm not a good Linux user)
[17:09:11] <diverdude> its in order to get it in the right location and such
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[17:09:26] <diverdude> and so i can access it via unity also etc
[17:10:56] <arobert> diverdude: I think right location is there : http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/?osType=linux
[17:11:32] <rcjsuen> BeholdMyGlory: You'd need Eclipse that supports Java 7 and then set Eclipse up so that it warns about usage of Java 7 I guess. I've seen it warn about usage of Java 6. I see no reason not to have Java 6 on your computer though. You want to test your application on Java 6. Just having the compiler warn you will not save you from VM bugs.
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[17:13:13] <rcjsuen> Whoops, sorry, I've seen people with setups that warn about usage of Java 6 APIs.
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[17:15:33] <arobert> diverdude: ? What do u think ?
[17:16:11] <diverdude> arobert, thats for manual install
[17:16:32] <Alvo> our guys here just wrote a custom version of LinkedList.toArray because the sun's one run bugga on java 1.4
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[17:17:43] <arobert> diverdude: I Think Eclipse should be manually installed  !
[17:18:03] <nitind> arobert: Your workspace should be on a local disk.  Seriously.
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[17:19:14] <arobert> nitind: Yeah ... I think too ... But ... My Web Server is not local ... so I don't really have the choice except if I want to proceed local from Serv deployment each time I want to test my code (J2EE Way ==> Too Slow)
[17:20:11] <nitind> That's not a "J2EE" way, that's just a smarter way.  Never develop using your production server.
[17:21:13] <arobert> It's NOT my production SERV !! Of course !!
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[17:33:39] <Alvo> yes j2ee too slow
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[17:45:11] <danols> is it possible to change font size in other places than just the editor ? like project explorer pane ?
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[17:48:38] <rcjsuen> No.
[17:53:35] <morsik> hi
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[17:54:36] <morsik> it's possible in PyDev to align part of code to some sign?
[17:54:43] <morsik> example: http://1366.cpaste.eu/
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[18:00:52] <morsik> btw. is there some html editor for eclipse? i'm writing django app, so i need some html/css tools (well... generally syntax highlighting and tags completion
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[18:01:09] <ron> WTP
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[20:09:13] <Cosmoe> anyone around who's familiar with Eclipse C++ dev on Windows w/ MinGW and MSYS ?
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[20:18:19] <jose> How can I reference a file that I have added to a directory in a project?
[20:18:58] <jose> i.e: Instead of creating a file like this -> File  f = new File("/path/to/file");
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[20:19:36] <jose> create something like -> File f  = new File("/path/to/some/directory/in/my/eclipse/project")
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[20:25:36] <nitind> It already sounds like you didn't add it the usual way.  Check for methods on the IProject.
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[20:41:47] <Cosmoe> i seem to be having some issues with missing symbols with MinGW and MSYS, for example, even after getting a valid import for <iostream> Eclipse still complains about a missing symbol for cout
[20:48:19] <paissad> hello guys, i have a multi-module maven project, basically, i have this "myParentProject", "project-core", "project-examples" ... where "project-core" and "project-examples" are the modules
[20:48:51] <paissad> and further, "project-examples" uses "project-core" as dependency (i specified it its pom.xml)
[20:49:54] <paissad> but the problem is that i get errors (red icons) in Eclipse when i take the following dirs src/main/java & src/test/java and add "use them as source folders"
[20:50:24] <paissad> how can i solve this ?
[20:51:18] <paissad> i have compilation problems because Classes are not resolved correctly
[20:53:41] <paissad> src/main/java is the one which is in "project-core" module
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[21:11:59] <mpiggott> paissad: Use m2e?
[21:12:08] <paissad> mpiggott, yes
[21:12:49] <mpiggott> paissad: Are you sure :)   If your poms are correctly setup then you shouldn't need to add source folders
[21:14:49] <paissad> mpiggott, here is my .classpath file http://pastebin.com/aKedZxAX
[21:15:42] <mpiggott> paissad: Are your modules not imported as projects in the workspace?
[21:15:58] <paissad> mpiggott, i fixed my parent's POM and that fixed errors (red icons) .. BUT anyway, i needed to add the src/main/java dirs to the classpath (use as source folder)
[21:18:12] <mpiggott> paissad: Still sounds like you haven't imported the modules into the workspace
[21:19:25] <paissad> mpiggott, how must i do that ? .. i only did  "Maven -> New Module Project"
[21:19:32] <paissad> how should i proceed ?
[21:20:31] <paissad> for all i projects i ever created, i always use the "use as source folder" :/
[21:20:54] <paissad> but if i understand what you mean, it's a bad practice
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[21:24:28] <mpiggott> paissad: Right, I don't know with the m2e version you're using, usually if you create a module it is automatically added as a project in the workspace.  Otherwise there might be an Import > Maven  option
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[21:27:54] <paissad> hm, even if when i do "import -> maven -> existing maven project ... and so forth" ... the src/main/java dirs & src/test/java dirs .. are not used as source folder :)
[21:28:25] <paissad> it's not grave
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[21:34:51] <mpiggott> paissad: Odd, try the latest m2e at Eclipse sometime maybe.
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[21:51:26] <paissad> mpiggott, it's ok now ;) thanks
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[22:12:38] <DevInquiry> I have doubts about eclipse integrity
[22:13:18] <DevInquiry> I am sorry I will have to look for further evidence
[22:13:29] <DevInquiry> Please it's your turn to talk now
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[22:14:40] <rcjsuen> What is there to talk about?
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[22:21:19] <DevInquiry> Should we convince ourselves that eclipse is only ide, for development
[22:21:35] <DevInquiry> or netbeans is better
[22:22:02] <DevInquiry> what should we teach to the young ones, The World of Development is heavily changing...
[22:22:56] <DevInquiry> I got the answer, Thank You, but should we continue this discussion
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[22:29:43] <rynop> anyone use Egit on linux? I have 2 different github accounts, one for work and one for outside of work. Trying to configure Egit to use different ssh key and github user based on project/repo.
[22:30:03] <rynop> meant to say, having trouble getting it working
[22:32:08] <DevInquiry> I got your answer, would you take mine
[22:33:03] <rynop> DevInquiry, would i take your answer to my problem? of course...
[22:33:46] <rynop> DevInquiry, if ur asking me to answer a q u asked in this chan, re ask as i just joined.
[22:34:20] <nitind> rynop: Please, try to use complete words.
[22:34:29] <nitind> DevInquiry: No one's stopping you from speaking.
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[22:36:58] <DevInquiry> Will I have to reinstall my fedora? I ask you this question? Because I believe that personalization is the solution to all of my problems
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[22:37:49] <rynop> DevInquiry, i have no clue what your talking about.
[22:38:00] <rgrunber> rynop: http://wiki.eclipse.org/EGit/User_Guide#Github_Tutorial has a good tutorial on it.. but it seems as if configuring of multiple ssh keys is done in General -> Network Connections -> SSH2
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[22:40:20] <DevInquiry> rynop: Yes, take the solution from the one who understands your problem, right?
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[22:42:19] <DevInquiry> rynop: without proper guidance things go wrong...
[22:46:01] <rynop> rgrunber, yep I've followed that, and i've followed http://help.github.com/multiple-ssh-keys. When I specify a repo in Egit (when cloning for example) i use the hostname alias i setup in .ssh/config. Eclipse does not seem to be honoring the .ssh/config file. I use a hack (export GIT_SSH=`which ssh`) in my .profile. Used to work but now doesnt for some reason. Trying to find a cleaner way.
[22:50:14] <DevInquiry> nitind: Why?
[22:50:43] <DevInquiry> nitind: Why??
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[22:54:46] <rgrunber> rynop: seems like some people have hostname alias working : https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=335897
[22:56:15] <rynop> rgrunber, thanks. Yea thats exactly what im doing. strange.
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[22:56:27] <rynop> doing the same as the last post inthere (luc guy)
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[22:56:47] <rynop> those guys are not using 2 diff ssh keys from what i can tell tho
[22:58:32] <DevInquiry> rcjsuen: why is nitind doing this. why?
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[23:00:38] <DevInquiry> rcjsuen: I have a deadline to perform? Is he monitoring me email?
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[23:17:27] <rcjsuen> what profound statements from DevInquiry
[23:17:32] <rcjsuen> truly thought-provoking
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[23:30:42] <rynop> rcjsuen, yea wtf was up with that DevInquiry guy
[23:31:11] <rynop> like he wanted me to help him, and gave me bait to help him or something.
[23:31:21] <rcjsuen> I'm not sure what he wants.
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