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[00:04:47] <Muhb> I think I just may have solved my problem. When I mirrored the update site for the palm-webos-sdk eclipse plugin, p2 either downloaded (or generated, not sure) a mirrored artifacts.jar file, which contained "repositoryProperties" tags, which contained references to the original update site.
[00:04:56] <Muhb> i.e. "<property name='artifact.reference' value='https://cdn.downloads.palm.com/sdkdownloads/eclipse/update-site/plugins/com.palm.pdt.debug.ui_2.0.0.201106022334.jar'/>"
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[00:06:00] <Muhb> removing all of those <repositoryProperties> tags from artifacts.xml allowed p2 to install the plugin offline. Going to see if throwing it in dropins will now work, because if that works, using a .link file should work as well... I hope
[00:08:01] <Muhb> Yes! dropins works :)
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[00:18:13] <Cairo> does eclipse have a "redo" key as well as an undo one"ctrl-z"?
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[00:21:18] <Cairo> and what about a "Clean Project" hotkey?
[00:30:05] <Cairo> nevermind about the redo one
[00:30:09] <Cairo> had to set a hotkey for that
[00:30:15] <Cairo> but what aboutt clean project?
[00:31:09] <nitind> ~tell Cairo about keys
[00:31:09] <Arbalest> Cairo: For a list of available key bindings press Ctrl + Shift + L. To configure your key bindings, press Ctrl + Shift + L twice or see Window > Preference > General > Keys. See also http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#What.27s_the_key_for_....3F
[00:31:28] <Cairo> it didn't really have anything about clean project
[00:31:41] <Cairo> it had Build Clean but that only worked if i ran it from a makefile
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[00:34:29] <krobinson> Hello, I am having trouble with Eclipse recognizing things like java.lang.Object and String.
[00:34:54] <krobinson> I think this might have to do with the java compiler settings or something, but setting the jdk hasn't solved the problem.
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[00:35:22] <krobinson> I have tried reinstalling eclipse and any plugins, re-importing the project from svn...
[00:35:58] <krobinson> I haven't tried reinstalling the jdk, though I doubt that is necessary.
[00:37:29] <nitind> It shouldn't be.  Be sure it's set on the Installed JREs preference page and then double-check that your project's Java Build Path refers to a valid JRE on that page.
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[00:40:15] <krobinson> I think I have, but I will check once again.
[00:40:39] <nitind> And if you change it, be sure you've rebuilt.
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[01:08:06] <spockdude> hi
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[01:08:25] <spockdude> is there anyone successfully debugging with ECLIPSE and EPIC?
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[01:08:43] <spockdude> Unable to connect to remotei am getting an
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[01:09:09] <spockdude> i am getting an unable to connect to remote host error that i cannot fix.
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[01:10:03] <spockdude> is this a bug or are there some settings i must adjust?
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[01:12:53] <AtKaaZ> using the p2 repository url at the bottom of this page: http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops4/M20110826-1525/index.php  doesn't cause eclipse to update to that build M20110826-1525, it remains at I20110805-1200 ; maybe an I won't update to an M, then what is the p2 repo url for I ? been working fine so far, but the integration build is now I20110824-1000 and I am still receiving
[01:12:53] <AtKaaZ> "No updates were found"
[01:13:24] <spockdude> really need help here
[01:13:57] <AtKaaZ> ...as you can see there is no p2 repo url here for integration: http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops4/I20110824-1000/index.php
[01:15:17] <AtKaaZ> rcjsuen_
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[01:15:56] <AtKaaZ> if he's afk, our chances to get a reply are slim :)
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[01:22:25] <spockdude> wow...
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[01:22:35] <spockdude> no one uused eclipse/
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[01:42:23] <AtKaaZ> u mean eclipse+epic, whatever epic is :)
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[02:08:03] <nitind> spockdude: You're asking a question that's hard to answer with the given information.  And possibly about a plug-in not from eclipse.org: epic.
[02:09:19] <nitind> spockdude: Does epic have support forums (or an IRC channel) of its own?
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[02:28:32] <Cairo> hi
[02:28:37] <Cairo> in a classes constructor
[02:28:49] <Cairo> i have "classVector.push_back(*this);"
[02:28:54] <Cairo> but eclipse says
[02:29:02] <Cairo> Invalid argument '
[02:29:22] <Cairo> in the Problems tab, but there is nothing erronous in the console tab, and it runs fine
[02:29:28] <Cairo> anyone know anything about that?
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[04:48:41] <garrettheel> anyone here have experience with webdav?
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[04:51:56] <knightrage> hey guys. i'm having some issues with Eclipse CDT and it's code analysis. for some reason it thinks the class runtime_error() is a function and isn't defined in a statement such as 'throw runtime_error("arg")' any idea why? the code compiles fine (i have included stdexcept)
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[04:52:13] <knightrage> oops.
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[05:35:41] <VeryBadGuy> how can I make eclipse to generate JPA/JQL metamodel classes into build/generated_sources/apt? since maven is doing it there, and eclipse is messing everything up
[05:36:26] <ron> do you use m2e?
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[05:53:15] <VeryBadGuy> I have a funny problem, I have some JPA annotated classes and no matter what I say to the annotation processor, it always creates the metamodel classes on the same directory, the one on which the actual entity resides.
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[06:14:13] <garrettheel> could anyone recommend the best way for me to use webdav as my filesystem with an eclipse plugin? i'm looking for an implementation which conforms to EFS
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[08:46:41] <piksu> Hello
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[08:48:09] <piksu> Could someone help me with eclipse cdt? I can build my project but I can't run it. Application launcher says the following: Launch failed. Binary not found.
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[09:50:43] <jogla> Hi
[09:51:39] <jogla> Is there a way to add something to the compare with window (a new way of comparing) without having it to do for every scm system?
[09:55:52] <jogla> For example that "compare with each other" feature of egit. I'd like to compare them with my own editor
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[11:08:24] <jogla> My rpc eclipse does not seems to find the package org.eclipse.compare
[11:08:33] <jogla> What do I have to do to be able to use it?
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[11:18:34] <Alvo> hello i use eclipse indigo, how can i set the jvm for a project?
[11:21:05] <jogla> project -> properties -> build path -> libraries
[11:22:11] <ngong> when I load a file in Eclipse editor and it gets changed by other means will Eclipse (Helios) be aware of it?
[11:25:34] <ngong> in my installations there seems to be a different behavior of Helios and Indigo.
[11:26:17] <ngong> Indigo asks me if I want to use the changed version or keep the current
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[11:26:51] <Alvo> jogla thanks
[11:31:10] <ngong> while Helios just stays with the old one. F5 does not help. In Helios I got to close the current file in order to open the changed one.
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[11:32:05] <ngong> My question: do I have a configuration wrong in Helios or does it simply not offer this change detection?
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[11:40:55] <jogla> I cannot import org.eclipse.compare
[11:40:58] <jogla> Where can I find it?
[11:41:34] <Alvo> jogla it doesnt look like a classname if there is no upper case letter
[11:41:45] <jogla> It's a package
[11:41:51] <jogla> I can't import anything from that package
[11:42:01] <Alvo> whats a class in it?
[11:42:03] <csaba> did you include it in your dependencies?
[11:42:03] <jogla> import org.eclipse.compare.contentmergeviewer.ContentMergeViewer;
[11:42:16] <jogla> No, put I don't know how
[11:42:23] <jogla> It's not in the plugin library in the rpc eclipse
[11:42:53] <pulse00> anyone ever created a headless buckminster build using director where the native launcher of the target platform was not created ?
[11:42:55] <Alvo> plugins\org.eclipse.compare_3.5.200.I20110525-0800.jar
[11:43:14] <csaba> do you use eclipse 3.6 or greater?
[11:43:57] <jogla> I don't know, Helios R2
[11:44:02] <csaba> it should be in there if you have at least 3.6: http://help.eclipse.org/helios/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/compare/package-summary.html
[11:44:11] <jogla> Thanks Alvo, I just copied it from the plugins folder
[11:44:35] <jogla> But what is the correct way for a plugin developer to use this classes?
[11:45:01] <csaba> double-click on build.properties, go to the dependencies tab, add the org.eclipse.compare package, that's it
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[11:52:40] <Alvo> hi, in eclipse, can i see for a project which file i have when committed? i am searching something like a list of <time> <file>
[11:52:56] <Alvo> im using CVS :)
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[12:20:08] <jogla> csaba: Where can I find the build.properties?
[12:20:26] <csaba> if you created a plugin project then it should be in the root dir
[12:21:35] <jogla> Ahh, cool
[12:21:35] <jogla> Thanks
[12:23:19] <csaba> there's also a plugin.xml that does the same thing
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[12:26:18] <jogla> Thanks
[12:27:06] <jogla> I have a class that extends EditorPart, it's shows two files
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[12:27:24] <jogla> Now I want to use that file as a diff view, via ContentMergeViewer
[12:27:32] <jogla> Is that possible, or do I have to implement everything again?
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[12:34:27] <pulse00> anyone knows where org.eclipse.equinox.executable feature can be found in Indigo ?
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[12:36:27] <Saviq> hi all, getting the "empty available software list" problem here, GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1 doesn't help, is there any other way around that?
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[12:46:42] <Saviq> ok, starting in a clean workspace helped
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[13:04:13] <SeySayux> Hey, is there a way to make eclipse automatically run a script whenever I add a file?
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[13:14:03] <ron> 'add a file'?
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[13:29:42] <SeySayux> ron: right click -> new -> c source / c++ source / java source / ...
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[14:10:33] <rcjsuen> ngong_: I'd expect Helios to also prompt as I wouldn't expect it to be able to get "old" data.
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[14:44:10] <Caleb--> where do SWT questions go?
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[14:45:01] <briandealwis> Sadly, often to a vale of tears.  But feel free to ask here.
[14:45:15] <Caleb--> :)
[14:45:19] <briandealwis> (But please don't let it be about ScrolledComposite)
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[14:45:30] <Caleb--> if i want to have a pref for the default font size for the whole app, and one that remembers window bounds, is it ok for me to subclass SWT's Shell.open() to provide that capability (and then just call super.open()) ?
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[14:46:36] <briandealwis> Um, no.  IIRC there are only two classes in SWT that are intended to be subclassed: Composite and Canvas.  Take a look at JFace's font registry instead.
[14:46:43] <ngong_> rcjsuen: so do I, however, it does not on my computer. If you have Helios installed may I ask you to just load a project-foreign file, change and store it with some other editor and report what Eclipse is doing about it?
[14:46:49] <Caleb--> briandealwis, thanks.
[14:48:23] <Caleb--> briandealwis, and regarding window bounds (position + size)?
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[14:49:04] <Caleb--> i could call some utility function on every shell i create, but that's just too much work :/
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[14:50:02] <briandealwis> Caleb--: take a look at JFace's Window class
[14:50:18] <Caleb--> i haven't read much about JFace, i guess i should
[14:50:27] <briandealwis> Lots of good stuff in there.
[14:50:34] <Caleb--> maybe using SWT directly isn't that good of an idea
[14:50:56] <briandealwis> JFace is a framework that builds on top of SWT.  It'll save you lots of time.
[14:51:01] <Caleb--> great
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[15:03:04] <rcjsuen> ngong_: It works as I expect.
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[15:20:53] <ngong> rcjsuen: sorry, I lost chats history. Do you have had the opportunity to look at Helios about changes to an open project-foreign file, that is changed externaly?
[15:21:00] <rcjsuen> <rcjsuen> ngong_: It works as I expect.
[15:21:16] <ngong> rcjsuen: hmm
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[15:27:25] <ngong> rcjsuen: are you sure you have worked on a project-foreign file? With a file inside the project I get that behaviour as well. But if I open a file usen the file-open dialog Helios behaves different.
[15:27:39] <rcjsuen> I tried b oth
[15:27:52] <ngong> rcjsuen: hmm
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[15:29:22] <ngong> rcjsuen: are you using Helios of Indigo?
[15:29:35] <rcjsuen> 3.6.2
[15:29:37] <ngong> of <- or
[15:29:42] <rcjsuen> It seems you have little trust in me. :)
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[15:30:18] <ngong> rcjsuen: sorry, thank you for your kind help, I just try to find the difference
[15:30:20] <nitind> What kind of file?
[15:31:00] <_pingu> i made a backup of my workspace and changed from eclipse 6 to 7 simply by starting 7 and configured the old workspace of eclipse 6. now i see for instance a plugin, which is not part of 7. what do i have to do?
[15:31:49] <ngong> rcjsuen: I will give up for now
[15:32:12] <rcjsuen> I am on Windows XP, if it matters.
[15:32:52] <ngong> rcjsuen: thank you, that may make a difference, I am on Debian.
[15:33:27] <ngong> rcjsuen: and the filesystem is ext4
[15:33:44] <_pingu> no one? should i delete .metadata in my old workspace first and than start eclipse 7?
[15:33:53] <rcjsuen> there is no Eclipse 7
[15:33:55] <rcjsuen> unless you mean 3.7
[15:34:02] <nitind> _pingu: What exactly is *wrong* by having that exra plug-in, whatever it is?
[15:34:02] <rcjsuen> _pingu: Please rephrase your question, I don't even kno what you're saying right now.
[15:34:08] <rcjsuen> ~elaborate
[15:34:08] <Arbalest> Please elaborate further. What are you trying to do? Is something failing? What do you see? What did you expect to see? Are you following a guide? Is there a link to this guide? If this is programming related, what programming language is it? If you have actual code, paste it to a ~pastebin, if you have screenshots, upload it to an ~imagebin. If you haven't described your Eclipse setup yet, please provide this ~info. Help us help you!
[15:34:16] <_pingu> rcjsuen: sorry. 3.7
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[15:39:41] <_pingu> rcjsuen: I want to change from eclipse 3.6 to 3.7. 3.7 should have my old workspace, so I dowloaded 3.7, started it and said, take my old workspace. Everything looks fine, but there is still a old view pydev, which is not installed. so I'am unsure if everything is really find. how would you change from 3.6 to 3.7?
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[15:40:22] <nitind> _pingu: Sounds like you just need to reinstall PyDev, since it doesn't come in the Eclipse.org packages.
[15:40:39] <nitind> _pingu: That, or close the views/perspectives and just move on.
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[15:42:02] <_pingu> nitind: I know. How I've said, Iam unsure if everything is fine. maybe it would be better to delete the .metadata directory in my workspace or something similiar, i don't know. i'am doing this the first time.
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[15:42:42] <nitind> _pingu: I think you're doing fine.  Just reinstall or close the views/perspective.
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[15:46:17] <barq> How can I set my python interpreter to the one that comes with OS X in Indigo
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[15:50:35] <_pingu> nitind: ok, thanks. wondering a little bit, that my question seems to be unusual.
[15:51:13] <rcjsuen> Actually I would expect what you see to be a common occurrence.
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[15:54:05] <briandealwis> barq: I believe you change the PyDev ~prefs
[15:54:05] <Arbalest> The option you want is located in the preferences, see 'Window > Preferences (Eclipse > Preferences on the Mac)'. If you cannot find it, try using the text filter control in the top left hand corner. You can enter text in there and filter out the tree.
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[16:05:00] <Caleb--> is it true that e4 has some kind of an animation framework?
[16:06:54] <rcjsuen> Caleb--: Not really. It's just Trident.
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[16:09:09] <Caleb--> never heard of Trident
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[16:30:07] <rcjsuen> Caleb--: anyway you could just get it from the source (pushingpixels)
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[16:40:08] <onk> hello, some there? I would need some help about eclips
[16:40:41] <rcjsuen> If you want help you should describe your problem.
[16:40:57] <onk> i deleted a folder which i thought to be outdated but eclipse seems to use it
[16:41:05] <onk> now eclipse won't start anymore
[16:41:10] <onk> i am using ubuntu
[16:41:25] <onk> console does not give any error
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[16:42:32] <onk> process is running, and a small empty window is open
[16:43:13] <rcjsuen> what is "a folder"
[16:43:21] <onk> directory
[16:44:34] <onk> thanks for the help, i really apreciate it ... not an absolute professional here as you can see :)
[16:44:42] <rcjsuen> you could've deleted any folder
[16:44:50] <rcjsuen> we don't even know what folder you deleted
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[16:46:10] <onk> well it was not my workspace, i guess i have moved the workspace some time ago and everything worked find then i saw the old directory i was using earlier and thought just a leftover, but after deliting eclipse wont work ... already reinstalled
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[16:47:59] <onk> so it was defenitely no eclipse program direcory, just an old workspace directory
[16:49:01] <rcjsuen> When was the last time you started Eclipse
[16:49:22] <onk> just before i deleted the folder
[16:49:30] <onk> eclipse was running when i deleted it
[16:49:47] <rcjsuen> so now you tell Eclipse to use a new workspace?
[16:50:00] <rcjsuen> ~info
[16:50:00] <Arbalest> Please state a) your CPU architecture (x86, 64-bit, etc.), b) operating system (Windows, Linux, OSX, etc.), c) your Java runtime environment (please verify by checking your ~logs or in the about dialog's ~jre section. No, typing 'java -version' in the command line does not count as checking), d) your Eclipse version, and e) where did you get Eclipse from (eclipse.org [if so, exactly which file you downloaded], distro repository, etc.)
[16:54:37] <onk> a) Intel Core 2 Duo P8600, i guess this makes x86; b) Ubuntu 10.10 Kernel 2.6.35-30-generic; e) Ubuntu repository
[16:54:48] <onk> for c and d i need help again
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[16:55:04] <onk> if java -version does not count
[16:56:02] <onk> d) 3.5.2-6ubuntu1.1
[16:57:04] <rcjsuen> You might want to try using a newer version of Eclipse if you're on 3.5.x.
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[17:02:21] <onk> well i can try this as this version come by the ubuntu repository would it not be better to stay with that one
[17:03:26] <onk> i fear that this might cause more problems that i can't solve ...
[17:04:39] <rcjsuen> well first you should confirm if the latest version works for you
[17:04:45] <rcjsuen> as that would provide an additional point of reference
[17:04:52] <rcjsuen> or if you want to stick with 3.5.2, get 3.5.2 from Eclipse.org
[17:04:59] <rcjsuen> to remove variables (distro packaging/binary from eclipse.org)
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[17:07:08] <onk> well, i will try to get the newest version running, thanks for the help!!
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[17:10:53] <Caleb--> rcjsuen, i see that the both eclipse 4.x and 3.x are being developed in parallel. what is the current state of the e4 project? that is, when is it posed to replace it as the recommended download?
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[17:11:09] <rcjsuen> Caleb--: for next yr
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[17:59:17] <Kemppi> Anyone proficient with the Android tools? I'd like to use a project-specific debug key but I find no way of doing that in Eclipse. Is it possible somehow?
[17:59:54] <nailora> given the following log, did i specify the memory limit incorrectly, did the pugin spwan another process with lower memory limits or did i genuinely run into memory problems? my os tells me that i use 2 GB of RAM maximum... http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=75hJ3fUE
[18:00:16] <Kemppi> I know that using a workspace-specific debug keystore would work but it would also make me run two instances of Eclipse (and some other inconveniences) at the same time
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[18:31:33] <jwir3> hi. I'm using eclipse CDT service release 2 for helios on ubuntu, and I've been noticing that over time, fewer and fewer windows allow me to refresh. It used to be that I could hit f5 and have it refresh from just about any window (whether it refreshed the whole tree, or a single file depended on the window). Now, it won't refresh when I'm in the editing window or the project explorer
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[19:24:47] <nailora> forget my question, someone messed up the eclipse launcher and did not pass on command line arguments :(
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[19:29:15] <rcjsuen> nailora: So you mean you weren't actually running the Eclipse binary.
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[19:34:05] <root_op> This is probably totally unrelated to eclipse but.
[19:34:45] <root_op> I'm on ArchLinux and for some reason when opening the marketplace it crashes with "libpixbufloader-jpeg.so: undefined reference: gdk_pixbuf_new".
[19:34:57] <root_op> Any thoughts?
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[19:55:42] <nailora> rcjsuen: me@compute10:~/gitclones/java2smt1$ which eclipse
[19:55:54] <nailora>    /tools/bin/eclipse
[19:57:03] <nailora> and that script... did '$SOMEPATH/eclipse "$@"' but missed the $@ part...
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[20:06:46] <JoeGaudet> Hey does anyone know anything about the JSDT type inference ?
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[20:09:55] <rcjsuen> Better to just ask the real question
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[20:13:05] <gnac> So just upgraded to 3.7.  Tried to open "internal web browser" view and eclipse crashed.  Even just going to Preferences->General->Web Browser crashes eclipse.
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[20:13:24] <gnac> Does the internal web browser have to be installed, eg via web development toolkit or some such?
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[20:13:35] <rcjsuen> no
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[20:13:44] <rcjsuen> you need the right versions of webkit gtk+ or xulrunner
[20:14:02] <nitind> The "internal web browser" has nothing to do with web development, it's part of the platform.
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[20:15:32] <fredjiles> 3.7 seems to crash whenever I open a php file and invoke the code completion  happens when the second level of the code completion opens.  any advice?
[20:15:43] <fredjiles> ubuntu 11.04
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[20:17:28] <regedit> if you clone a repository and import an Eclipse project from it and then you commit changes, where should your local repo reside? i am having annoyances with the local repo existing *inside the project itself*
[20:17:37] <regedit> (which makes my brain melt because repo haz project which has repo...)
[20:17:53] <regedit> i'm talking about a git repository BTW, using Egit
[20:19:38] <regedit> http://miburl.com/cT5Stn
[20:20:29] <rcjsuen> if you're willing to abandon egit why don't you just use the command line git
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[20:21:14] <regedit> how does it work to develop a full fledged Eclipse project inside Eclipse IDE but do all of the version tracking totally outside of Eclipse
[20:21:23] <gnac> rcjsuen: so I have gtk+ 2.24 and 3.0 installed as well as xulrunner 2.0.1 and qt-webkit.  Should I install webkit-gtk?
[20:22:35] <rcjsuen> unless you want to use an older xulrunner
[20:22:45] <rcjsuen> regedit: Not sure I follow.
[20:24:33] <gnac> that doesn't seem to have helped.
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[20:26:03] <regedit> rcjsuen: i'm just asking simply how to not use Egit and instead use command line git
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[20:26:39] <nitind> I think that's a tpoic for ##git, then.
[20:26:50] <JoeGaudet> The question I was wondering is if the type inference stuff I've been reading about in the JSDT is a go yet, and if so how do I configure it.
[20:27:38] <nitind> JoeGaudet: Which stuff do you mean?  Generally you don't configure it yourself.  It either understands something or it does not.  Either a plug-in contributes to that understanding, or it does not.
[20:28:01] <JoeGaudet> http://wiki.eclipse.org/JSDT#Inferred_Types
[20:28:29] <JoeGaudet> I see, I suppose I would have to start with understanding how to write a plugin that would leverage these things.
[20:28:48] <JoeGaudet> I am interested in teaching it to understand SproutCore's syntax
[20:29:20] <nitind> JoeGaudet: If you're just using JSDT, it's already running.  And if the syntax is actually different, it's more complicated because the Parser only understands JavaScript.
[20:29:58] <JoeGaudet> SproutCore is JS
[20:30:10] <JoeGaudet> It just has a difference convention.
[20:30:30] <JoeGaudet> From the looks of things it looks for <someObject>.prototype =
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[20:30:49] <JoeGaudet> Where as SC uses MyNameSpace.MyClass = SC.Object.extend()
[20:31:16] <JoeGaudet> From my read of the wiki, this is supposed to be configurable in some fashion (using plugins or otherwise).
[20:31:31] <regedit> rcjsuen: turns out it's not so easy to abandon Egit... it's very cool to have nice GUI diff, history, one-click operations, etc... is there any GUI equivalent that works better than Egit (even totally outside eclipse)?
[20:31:35] <JoeGaudet> "Type inferring is extensible, so the unique conventions among various JavaScript Toolkits (e.g. Dojo, jQuery, Prototype, etc.) can be handled, although through WTP 3.1 it has remained provisional"
[20:31:58] <gnac> fwiw I needed net-libs/webkit-gtk-1.4.2-r200
[20:32:12] <rcjsuen> gnac: What did you get at first then?
[20:32:17] <gnac> webkit-gtk-1.4.2-r300
[20:32:27] <nitind> Well, yes, the plug-in would understand those conventions, at least if you want the actual SC sources to be present.  Otherwise you could write stubs with JSDoc to mock it all up.
[20:32:32] <rcjsuen> regedit: I've seen other ones. I only use EGit and a bit of the command line though.
[20:33:27] <regedit> rcjsuen: did you ever import a project from an online repo? where does your .git folder reside?
[20:33:35] <nitind> JoeGaudet: http://www.slideshare.net/cbridgha/eclipsecon-2011-supporting-javascript-toolkits-with-jsdt
[20:33:36] <rcjsuen> where i cloned it
[20:33:49] <regedit> rcjsuen: not inside your project then?
[20:34:06] <rcjsuen> no
[20:34:12] <JoeGaudet> nitind: Yeah I watched that - that's what made me want to be able to do this ;)
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[20:34:28] <regedit> rcjsuen: when you commit changes, a ".git" folder doesn't suddenly appear in your Synchronize view?
[20:34:41] <rcjsuen> I don't use the 'Synchronize' view, no comment.
[20:34:41] <nitind> JoeGaudet: It comes down to whether you want to have the actual SC sources present or not.
[20:34:52] <JoeGaudet> I have them present now
[20:35:07] <nitind> JoeGaudet: I mean whether the *user* should have them present or not.
[20:35:17] <regedit> rcjsuen: would you know if the actual physical .git folder exists inside your physical project folder, or not?
[20:35:32] <rcjsuen>  I have like 60+ projects
[20:35:39] <JoeGaudet> Right, presumably they wouldn't.
[20:35:47] <rcjsuen> but i checked a few, and no, I don't see .git folderse
[20:35:53] <JoeGaudet> They would have them in a gem or something like that.
[20:36:01] <nitind> A gem?
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[20:36:17] <JoeGaudet> SC uses a ruby based build system
[20:36:42] <regedit> rcjsuen: how do you set it up that way, that when you clone some online repo and import an eclipse project, subsequent commits are committed to a .git someplace OUTSIDE the actual eclipse project folder?
[20:36:45] <JoeGaudet> So all the JS lives in a gem and your custom SC code is ~compiled~ with the SC core stuff and server with a thin webserver
[20:37:13] <nitind> JoeGaudet: Um, ok.  Maybe you want to go the route of providing documented stubs, as we do for the core runtime.
[20:38:08] <rcjsuen> That sounds ilke a strange setup
[20:38:12] <rcjsuen> why don't i just clone that repo
[20:38:12] <JoeGaudet> Yeah, that'll probably not end up happening :P The thought process was that (because of that slide show) we might be able to with some XML configuration or something, teach the JSDT to learn the conventions of SC.
[20:38:36] <regedit> rcjsuen: i know, but it happens, i dunno why. let me describe the steps i take:
[20:38:37] <rcjsuen> But no I don't know how to do that.
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[20:39:40] <nitind> JoeGaudet: Your implementor of IInferEngine can do whatever it wants, but I'm not sure it'll try to process XML files.
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[20:40:10] <JoeGaudet> So I would have to hack something together with Java  ? and then plug it in ?
[20:40:28] <regedit> rcjsuen: Step 1 http://git.apache.org/ i use Egit to clone http://git.apache.org/ofbiz.git , Step 2 I select the wizard option to "Import Project" from this cloned repo, Step 3: I change some stuff and commit. boom, there's a .git folder /inside/ my project folder
[20:40:34] <JoeGaudet> Can you recommend some resources I could read to get me started ?
[20:40:41] <nitind> JoeGaudet: Yes.  Although what you hack together could theoretically read stuff fomr XML config files to instruct it on how to process the .js files.
[20:41:08] <regedit> rcjsuen: and it shows in the Synchronize view which is the most annoying part
[20:41:09] <nitind> JoeGaudet: IInferEngine and the default implementation in org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.core.infer.InferEngine .
[20:41:29] <rcjsuen> well at least it shows it to you
[20:41:34] <rcjsuen> it'd be worst for it to be created without you ever knowing
[20:41:55] <regedit> rcjsuen: care to make some changes and then check your Synchronize view for a minute? does it show a .git in there?
[20:42:43] <rcjsuen> a) I don't trust that view and b) I use nightly EGit builds
[20:42:55] <JoeGaudet> nitind: Thanks man, anything I could look at on actually taking the code I write and pluging it in ?
[20:44:05] <nitind> JoeGaudet: I don't know how basic you need to get, but the PDE has example project wizards to lay out a skeleton for you to look at.
[20:44:29] <regedit> rcjsuen: synchronize view is very cool, shows all changed files and one-click diffs them, it would be a hard loss not to use it...
[20:44:41] <rcjsuen> I used it back in the CVS days. I stopped using it now.
[20:45:08] <JoeGaudet> nitind: Cool man thanks a  lot!
[20:45:59] <regedit> rcjsuen: but back to the main question, is there anything that can be done or any settings to set so that the local repo (where i commit to) resides elsewhere than within the project?
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[20:49:01] <regedit> i dont even get how it makes sense... i clone a repo to C:\repo , and then i import a project from it which (i guess) gets put in my C:\workspace folder, so
[20:49:17] <rcjsuen> I just tried synchronizing and nothing happened. But I was probably doing something wrong.
[20:49:38] <rcjsuen> no, it won't copy/paste to C:\workspsace\
[20:49:41] <regedit> when i commit changes, shouldnt those changes go to C:\repo and NOT to C:\workspace\myproject ??
[20:49:45] <rcjsuen> At least, I don't think that's the default behaviour
[20:49:49] <rcjsuen> that is not what _I_ do anyway
[20:49:55] <regedit> what do you do
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[20:51:14] <regedit> rcjsuen: (to sync, step 1 change some files, step 2 right-click on the project > Team > Synchronize Workspace)
[20:51:24] <rcjsuen> i did that, that did nothing
[20:51:28] <rcjsuen> so i went to start the synch from the view itself
[20:51:36] <rcjsuen> that also did nothing (well it processed something, but then nothing happened in the end)
[20:51:51] <regedit> weird... oh well
[20:52:15] <regedit> so, what are the steps you take when cloning a repo and extracting a project out of it?
[20:52:31] <regedit> where does the repo go, and where does the project go, and where do commits go?
[20:52:33] <rcjsuen> i just let the import wizard detect the (Eclipse) projects and let it go
[20:52:41] <rcjsuen> repo is in C:\git\x\
[20:52:45] <rcjsuen> project is in C:\git\x\y\project
[20:52:49] <rcjsuen> commits go there
[20:53:35] <regedit> commits go into C:\git\x\ (the 'outside' repo) or C:\git\x\y\project (a new insta-created repo that resides inside the project) ?
[20:53:50] <regedit> by me it seems to be the latter
[20:54:20] <regedit> or maybe i'm seeing things wrong
[20:55:58] <rcjsuen> as I noted earlier, I don't have new .git projects
[20:56:09] <rcjsuen> er .git folders
[20:56:12] <regedit> maybe really the .git repo is indeed NOT 'inside' the project, but somehow it shows up in Synch view...
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[20:57:13] <regedit> i even tried .gitignore /.git (which again, makes my brain melt)
[20:58:21] <rcjsuen> well, if you're not sure, you should check the fs then
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[20:59:41] <regedit> rcjsuen: can you also please describe in short how your fs looks like under the repo/project ?
[20:59:50] <rcjsuen> not sure what else you want to know
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[21:00:02] <rcjsuen> Because I think I've described it enough.
[21:00:09] <regedit> (a bit more detail than git\x\y\project )
[21:00:15] <regedit> where's the actual .git folder?
[21:00:19] <rcjsuen> in C:\git\x\.git
[21:00:42] <regedit> and the project root (containing the .project file) ?
[21:01:13] <rcjsuen> C:\git\x\y\project\.project
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[21:01:51] <regedit> 'y' not meaning '.git' correct?
[21:02:05] <rcjsuen> no
[21:02:33] <regedit> rcjsuen: just curious, do you use egit or command line to commit?
[21:02:42] <rcjsuen> right-click menu
[21:02:45] <rcjsuen> git staging view
[21:02:47] <rcjsuen> or just use the command line
[21:03:04] <regedit> really? you use either? doesn't that throw off Egit ?
[21:04:16] <regedit> if you make changes in Eclipse, then commit from command line, do the little arrows '>' next to changed files disappear? does the latest commit show up in the Egit history?
[21:04:32] <rcjsuen> dunno, maybe i need to refresh a bit, doesn't really concern me enough to care
[21:04:46] <rcjsuen> but I'm no Git expert so I don't do anything complicated
[21:05:04] <paulweb515> regedit: EGit depends on JGit, which is non-workspace aware
[21:05:16] <paulweb515> regedit: so EGit does a lot of REFRESH_LOCAL itself
[21:05:30] <rcjsuen> and how it churns my system
[21:05:43] <regedit> i was gonna ask about that - is there such a thing as using the internal Jgit from command line?
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[21:06:00] <rcjsuen> yes, but then you might as well use CGit
[21:06:04] <rcjsuen> since JGit is not feature complete
[21:06:05] <paulweb515> regedit: JGit does ship a version/jar which supoprts command line
[21:06:21] <paulweb515> regedit: but as rcjsuen said, its CLI is not feature complete
[21:06:26] <regedit> i see..
[21:06:38] <rcjsuen> And I'll happily admit it, and I work on EGit in my free time :)
[21:06:48] <regedit> really
[21:07:15] <regedit> here's a question; does anyone even look at the Egit zilla :P
[21:07:23] <rcjsuen> Yes
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[21:07:35] <regedit> it seems like all that's happening there is bugs being submitted
[21:07:35] <rcjsuen> And you can tell I have no problems telling everyone how bad we are :)
[21:07:59] <rcjsuen> I've had bugs fixed and I have bugs that are still open *shrugs*
[21:08:11] <regedit> even i submitted one
[21:08:16] <rcjsuen> this is open source, you get as much as you put into it, I can't expect other ppl to work on them, no one on egit works for the same company as i
[21:08:22] <rcjsuen> :)
[21:08:24] <regedit> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=344901 not even so important anymore
[21:09:01] <rcjsuen> afk
[21:09:06] <rcjsuen> But if a problem still bothers you, doesn't hurt to ping the bug
[21:09:19] <regedit> rcjsuen: if you work with/on Egit and you know it a little, what do you think about my problem
[21:09:21] <rcjsuen> you sould also cause trouble by blogging about the problem and let it become known so other people complain on the bug too :)
[21:09:34] <regedit> about a .git folder showing up in the project / synch
[21:10:01] <regedit> i'd even take advice about what Egit source files to look at and debug :D
[21:11:11] <regedit> why would it happen and what can possibly be done about it
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[21:16:05] <gandhijee_> hey i am trying to setup an new app, and everytime i try to use an existing directory that i tried to make a app in then accidently closed out, it says that the folder is already being used for my app.vfb
[21:16:18] <gandhijee_> how do i purge this information from eclipse?
[21:17:49] <gandhijee_> how do i clear out my workspace i guess
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[21:49:28] <wildgoose> gandhijee_: Start a new workspace?
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[21:53:19] <gandhijee_> my problem is it keeps saying the new workspace i am trying to create already exists
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[22:02:30] <regedit> rcjsuen: back yet?
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[22:03:23] <rcjsuen> regedit: Did you check to see that the extra .git folder gets created?
[22:04:19] <regedit> rcjsuen: ok i'm gonna replay the whole scenario from scratch and check for that, might take a bit
[22:05:06] <regedit> rcjsuen: should i 'log' here to you the steps i take as i take them?
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[22:09:43] <rcjsuen> you can log them, if you can repro it again, open a bug
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[22:14:38] <regedit> Step 1: File > Import > Project from git > Clone > http://git.apache.org/ofbiz.git > C:\root\git\ofbiz
[22:14:50] <regedit> (this takes a while, big project...)
[22:15:20] <regedit> some 260000 git objects
[22:15:47] <abhatnag> I'm working on stash support in egit. Question: when a person creates a stash by right clicking > Team > Stash > Create Stash; what sort of feedback should they receive that the stash has been created? A statusbar message doesn't seem sufficient and a messagebox seems like too much
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[22:19:47] <regedit> abhatnag: shouldnt it be same as any other "progress" process?
[22:20:29] <regedit> i'm referring to the Progress view
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[22:22:24] <abhatnag> regedit: progress view? sorry where is this?
[22:24:13] <regedit> abhatnag: you know, anything that takes time has a progress bar dialog that can 'run in the background' until it finishes 100%
[22:24:42] <regedit> maybe that would be what you meant by statusbar message
[22:25:15] <ifdef42> i'd like to make an eclipse editor out of a web app. is there a plugin that embeds webkit into eclipse, so i could run there but integrate with eclipse views, etc?
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[22:25:40] <thebope> Does anyone know why eclipse takes so long to quit?
[22:26:04] <abhatnag> regedit: hmm, but there is no temporal aspect to that process though, so what would the bar indicate?
[22:26:41] <regedit> (back to my log) Step 2: Next > Import Existing Projects "Working Directory - C:\root\git\ofbiz"
[22:26:52] <regedit> abhatnag: you mean it doesnt take any time?
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[22:28:16] <abhatnag> regedit: nope. the idea is that once the stash has been created, cgit (normal cli git) usually returns a bunch of info to the user. I would like to return the same, but I think pop-up boxes would be too annoying. just trying to gauge the public opinion. Would you consider pop-up boxes after you create a stash annoying?
[22:28:32] <regedit> rcjsuen: does step 1 and 2 sound right sofar? ^
[22:28:37] <rcjsuen> yes
[22:30:33] <regedit> rcjsuen: looking at the filesystem right now after importing the project, i am already seeing the .git folder in C:\root\git\ofbiz . is this all as expected / supposed to be?
[22:30:49] <rcjsuen> yes
[22:31:37] <regedit> rcjsuen: and in that same folder C:\root\git\ofbiz i see all of the project files including the .project file , also sounds ok?
[22:31:57] <rcjsuen> you mean there is a C:\x\y\offbiz\.git\ folder
[22:32:04] <rcjsuen> and a C:\x\y\oftbiz\.project file?
[22:32:21] <regedit> yes there is C:\root\git\ofbiz\.project and C:\root\git\ofbiz\.git
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[22:32:36] <regedit> immediately after step 2
[22:32:57] <rcjsuen> Did that git repo have a .project file to begin with?
[22:33:05] <regedit> abhatnag: are there any other places where such messages may be relayed to users in a less intrusive way?
[22:33:12] <regedit> rcjsuen: yes
[22:33:19] <regedit> should i not have?
[22:33:25] <regedit> does that explain everything?
[22:33:26] <rcjsuen> Well, if they have it there then you're going to have it there.
[22:33:37] <regedit> as in contrast to?
[22:34:04] <regedit> if they wouldnt have it there, what would be different?
[22:34:19] <abhatnag> regedit: there is the status bar in the bottom right where a message can flash for the duration of the operation...the only problem is that it's done in like half a second usually
[22:34:20] <rcjsuen> well for us we don't have .project and .git in the same folder
[22:34:23] <regedit> what else does "Import Existing Project" from step 2 mean?
[22:34:24] <rcjsuen> but I've heard some people do it this way
[22:34:39] <rcjsuen> it means import Eclipse projects (folders with .project in them)
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[22:34:46] <regedit> hm...
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[22:35:03] <sileni> hey guys
[22:35:03] <rcjsuen_> but if that's what this Ofbiz project does it, then that's their standard I guess
[22:35:32] <sileni> this is the right channel to ask java specific eclipse questions?
[22:36:05] <abhatnag> sileni: depends on whether the question is java related or eclipse related. the latter is the norm.
[22:36:14] <sileni> ok
[22:36:14] <regedit> rcjsuen_: does having .git and .project in same place explain the strange phenomena? if i were to figure out a way to have the .git in one place and .project in another place, things should be fine(r) ?
[22:36:44] <regedit> abhatnag: maybe console output?
[22:37:22] <abhatnag> regedit: yeah, the consensus in another channel says dialog box, so I think I'll just go that way for now. thnx!
[22:37:32] <sileni> abhatnag: i have a jar file which contains classes that i need to write my program. so i have statements like import test.blah.blah.blah.* in my java source file... and the directories are there inside that jar file. How would i put that jar file in eclipse so that it is recognized?
[22:37:51] <regedit> abhatnag: if you were to make a pop-up, it would obviously have a checkbox to "not display this message when stash is done anymore"
[22:38:41] <sileni> adding it as an external jar file in eclipse doesn't seem to do it ..
[22:39:00] <sileni> is there any specific keyword i can look up on google, to resolve my situation
[22:39:08] <abhatnag> regedit: ooo, maybe that's the solution. there is always an alt way of viewing this info retroactively, so perhaps that would work
[22:39:14] <abhatnag> regedit: great suggestion, thanks
[22:39:52] <abhatnag> sileni: did you add it to the classpath from run configurations?
[22:39:57] <regedit> abhatnag: yw and then when user checks the box, from then on just output to console or status bar or wtvr
[22:40:14] <sileni> abhatnag: classpath in run configurations?
[22:40:26] <sileni> abhatnag: is that also in properties of the project?
[22:40:36] <sileni> or the classpath in the environment itself?
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[22:41:53] <regedit> rcjsuen_: any suggestions on how to go about cloning a project and /not/ to use the included .project file so that i can place the project elsewhere?
[22:42:19] <nitind> The .project file has nothing to do with the project's location, just its name.
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[22:44:16] <regedit> nitind: oh, in that case would you know how can i arrange for a cloned project that already contains a .project file to NOT be located in the same place as the actual cloned .git repository?
[22:46:09] <nitind> regedit: I don't know anything about controlling where things are cloned.
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[22:46:17] <regedit> nitind: from what i understood, if the cloned repo contains a .project file then "Import Existing Project" will just make use of the repo's own working tree where the .git folder resides, whereas otherwise i could place the git-tracked project elsewhere
[22:46:25] <regedit> oh..
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[22:48:10] <regedit> rcjsuen_: still around? (sorry dont mean to bug you..)
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[22:52:18] <regedit> argh....
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[22:59:02] <regedit> rcjsuen / rcjsuen_ / rcjsuen__ nick trouble? :P
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[23:13:01] <Elisha> salvation
[23:14:30] <Elisha> anyway folks... egit issue here, I have a http server which I setup for git... when I pull it goes okay, but when pushing it complains about server not using smart http, I did this today already using CLI and it worked, but now, it eclipse indigo it doesn't work, thank you
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[23:16:19] <regedit> rcjsuen: are you really there or are your 3 computers playing nick-catch with each other
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[23:16:57] <regedit> also Elisha you sound mishelanu (i may have asked you before :P )
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[23:42:34] <zzzoid> is there anyway I can upgrade my Helios eclipse or do I have to uninstall and reinstall?
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[23:44:03] <zzzoid> !upgrade
[23:44:09] <zzzoid> !help
[23:44:09] <Arbalest> Looking for help? Go look at the FAQs first - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Category:FAQ You may also want to try asking for help on the newsgroup. http://www.eclipse.org/newsgroups Still no luck? Just ask the question! To help us help you, please provide information about your system, see ~info. For a list of the commands I provide, please see ~list.
[23:44:50] <Elisha> regedit: ???
[23:46:02] <regedit> nevermind
[23:46:09] <Elisha> zzzoid: you just delete, that's the best uninstall :)
[23:46:28] <zzzoid> Elisha, not what I'm asking
[23:46:47] <zzzoid> Elisha, can I _upgrade_ my eclipse or do I need to delete and install?
[23:47:19] <Elisha> zzzoid: don't know, I always install new version, and plugins separately
[23:47:29] <zzzoid> ok I'll do that then
[23:47:50] <zzzoid> just a pain because there is no install for my eclipse config as I need - java, C++ and pydev
[23:48:07] <zzzoid> guess I'll install the java eclipse and then cdt and then pydev
[23:48:42] <Elisha> it easier, and faster
[23:49:40] <Elisha> so far I only upgraded minor versions
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[23:49:50] <Elisha> 3.6.X
[23:50:04] <Elisha> service releases twice a year
[23:50:11] <Elisha> every 4 months
[23:50:29] <Elisha> Release -> .1 -> .2
[23:50:36] <BullShark> how can i get eclipse not to use the windows look and feel?
[23:50:47] <BullShark> i prefer default swing appearance
[23:51:59] <Elisha> who would know
[23:52:40] <BullShark> motif i think its called
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