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[02:24:19] <stravant> In eclipse-cdt how do I disable automatic including of unistd.h / types.h / various other headers in the code-completion dropdown?
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[03:07:10] <Muhb> Is the "links" directory method of loading plugins still supported? I seem to be having bizarre behavior. The first time I load a plugin that way, it works fine... but afterwards, when I close and restart eclipse, the plugin is gone, no errors... nothing. I run eclipse with the -clean parameter, delete/recreate my workspace, nothing short of deleting/re-extracting the whole eclipse sdk seems...
[03:07:12] <Muhb> ...to fix the issue. :/
[03:08:20] <rcjsuen> I don't think so.
[03:08:29] <Muhb> Actually, a better question would be this... is there any way I can manage plugins offline, without using the download manager, since all the download manager does is install plugins straight to the application directory? That's all I really need right now.
[03:16:28] <Muhb> Tried following both the "links" and the "dropins" methods outlined here, neither seem to work quite like I'd expect: http://www.venukb.com/2006/08/20/install-eclipse-plugins-the-easy-way/
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[08:43:03] <Cairo> does the c++ version of eclipse support hotswapping?
[08:44:37] <ron> umm... maybe?
[08:44:44] <Cairo> k
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[09:13:29] <jeff___> hello, eclipse world
[09:13:34] <jeff___> i'm new
[09:13:52] <jeff___> is anyone here active?
[09:15:55] <jeff___> sigh
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[14:43:15] <jmspeex> Hi, anyone knows why "Refactor->Rename" no longer works on multiple files since I upgraded to Indigo/DCT8?
[14:43:19] <jmspeex> CDT8
[14:43:53] <ron> unfortunately, CDT-related questions (and mostly answers) aren't very common in here... so your best bet is in the ~forums :-/
[14:43:53] <Arbalest> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/
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[15:48:21] <X_and_Y> Hello guys. I am new to C++ and have decided to go the Eclipse / Cygwin route.
[15:48:32] <X_and_Y> I was redirected here from #C++
[15:49:00] <X_and_Y> When i try to type the hello world application, i get errors for the int main () and the system("Pause")
[15:49:12] <X_and_Y> saying the functions cant be resolved
[15:49:29] <briandealwis> X_and_Y: take a look at some of the CDT tutorials on configuring your environment in the ~cdt-faq
[15:49:29] <Arbalest> Looking for all of the answers related to CDT, or just most of them?  Check out the mighty CDT-FAQ (http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/CDT/User/FAQ).
[15:49:36] <FauxFaux> unfortunately, CDT-related questions (and mostly answers) aren't very common in here... so your best bet is in the ~forums :-/
[15:49:36] <Arbalest> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/
[15:49:44] <rcjsuen> lol Chris
[15:49:47] <rcjsuen> touche
[15:50:12] <X_and_Y> I've tried many tutorials and stuff... I just can't figure it out
[15:50:27] <X_and_Y> DO you think it's a problem with Cygwin linking to eclipse?
[15:51:20] <rcjsuen> I don't do C/C++, no comment.
[15:51:43] <X_and_Y> It says the line "int main()" has "no return, in function returning non-void"
[15:52:13] <briandealwis> X_and_Y: other people have managed it, so it's likely a configuration error.  Max Berger's tutorial was helpful when I last tried setting up CDT.  http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/CDT/User/FAQ#Are_there_complete_HowTos_for_setting_up_the_CDT.3F
[15:52:29] <deSilva> X_and_Y: you dont need system pause in this context
[15:52:44] <X_and_Y> ty brian
[15:52:50] <X_and_Y> and why deSilva
[15:53:18] <X_and_Y> I was using this hello world : http://www.cppgameprogramming.com/cgi/nav.cgi?page=intro
[15:55:02] <X_and_Y> also when i type "gcc" into cmd, i get an "access is denied"
[15:55:11] <X_and_Y> which is a problem :P i'm an admin
[15:55:44] <briandealwis> X_and_Y: you need to figure out how to get cygwin working before CDT can do anything
[15:57:30] <X_and_Y> ah. it needs to use gcc-3.exe or gcc-4.exe because windows doesn't understand symlinks
[15:57:33] <X_and_Y> that wasn't the problem :F
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[16:27:42] <barb> How can I make a new project without a src and bin folder?
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[16:29:15] <rcjsuen> well you coudl always just make one and the delete it
[16:29:21] <rcjsuen> or just make a regular project
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[16:30:54] <barb> I used know how to do this.
[16:31:08] <barb> There is an option in the new project wizard somewhere.
[16:32:32] <nbf> you can remove the source folder by deleting it and removing it from the build path
[16:32:54] <nbf> the compiler output folder is configurable from the build path in project properties I believe
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[16:42:08] <|Caterpillar|> is it possible to enable regroupment also for if commands and not only for methods?
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[16:57:03] <|Caterpillar|> ?
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[16:59:00] <rcjsuen> I don't even know what you're saying.
[16:59:05] <rcjsuen> "Regroupment"?
[16:59:21] <|Caterpillar|> when a plus symbol appears in the left side of sheet
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[16:59:33] <|Caterpillar|> and you use it to compress text
[16:59:40] <rcjsuen> Not for Java, no, assuming you mean Java, I don't know.
[16:59:54] <|Caterpillar|> ok
[16:59:55] <rcjsuen> fyi in Eclipse it's called "code folding"
[17:00:13] <|Caterpillar|> ok
[17:01:42] <|Caterpillar|> have to go, thx
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[17:29:07] <abhatnag> any egit/jgit devs here? are you also seeing an internal server error in dealing with gerrit?
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[17:39:05] <rcjsuen> abhatnag: not a few days ago but i was pushing from the command line
[17:39:57] <abhatnag> rcjsuen: few days ago?
[17:41:46] <abhatnag> rcjsuen: it's back, hurrah
[17:42:53] <abhatnag> wait, it's gone back under
[17:43:41] <rcjsuen> it might've ran out of ram
[17:43:42] <rcjsuen> again
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[19:42:52] <BlessJah> dumb question, is eclipse ide written in java?
[19:43:08] <rcjsuen> 95-99% of it, yes
[19:43:19] <BlessJah> ok, thx
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[19:44:03] <rcjsuen> :o
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[21:27:19] <njlg> where can I find information about extending the Structured Source Editor?
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[21:31:00] <Muhb> A rather strange question, for anyone who wants to help me tackle this... I've mirrored an eclipse plugin update site using the method outlined here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1371176/downloading-eclipse-plug-in-update-sites-for-offline-installation
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[21:32:56] <Muhb> My directory structure is as follows: root-plugin-dir/, root-plugin-dir/features/<feature-jar-file.jar>, root-plugin-dir/plugins/<a-bunch-of-plugin-jar-files.jar>, root-plugin-dir/artifacts.jar, root-plugin-dir/content.jar, root-plugin-dir/site.xml
[21:33:13] <nitind> njlg: There are (older) presentations on the WTP web site and older EclipseCons.
[21:34:05] <Muhb> dropping root-plugin-dir into the "dropins" folder, or creating a .link file in the "$eclipsehome/links" folder, containing "path=C:/path/to/root-plugins-dir" should allow me to use the offline or mirrored plugin, correct?
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[21:36:22] <Muhb> Eclipse actually attempts to load the plugin, but in the Error Log View I get "The artifact file was not found," "Failed to prepare partial IU," etc... I can paste it to a pastebin if that would help...
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[21:38:58] <njlg> nitind: thanks. i'll snoop around a bit more with that information. from what I've seen it seems pretty outdated, but perhaps I can figure it out nevertheless
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[21:55:10] <rvsjoen_> are there any shiny new features that makes it worth upgrading from 3.7 to 4.1 ?
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[22:07:00] <rcjsuen> rvsjoen_: more bugs
[22:07:08] <rvsjoen_> he
[22:07:09] <rcjsuen> rvsjoen_: you can detach editors (if you care)
[22:07:16] <rcjsuen> rvsjoen_: and put views in the editor stack, if you care
[22:07:25] <rcjsuen> (and of course the inverse, put editors outside)
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[22:10:16] <rvsjoen_> do most extensions still work ?
[22:10:52] <rcjsuen> rvsjoen_: That's a case-by-case basis. We've put in work but hard for us to test everything.
[22:11:08] <rcjsuen> and just because a plug-in works for me doesn't mean it'll work for you, we may have different workflows
[22:11:14] <rvsjoen_> fair enough
[22:11:23] <rcjsuen> i use egit and it's fine
[22:11:29] <rcjsuen> i don't use any other extra plug-ins
[22:13:16] <rvsjoen_> meh, I think i'll stick to 3.7 for now
[22:13:19] <rvsjoen_> thanks
[22:14:11] <rcjsuen> no problem
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[22:16:22] <Muhb> http://pastebin.com/NPr5V5LD <-- more specific description of what i'm trying to do... anyone have any ideas?
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[22:17:25] <rcjsuen> if you've alrdy mirrored it, why are you copying/pasting to dropins
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[22:19:07] <nitind> rvsjoen_: You can't deny the future.  It's coming.
[22:19:25] <rvsjoen_> well sure, but I can delay it
[22:19:38] <Muhb> rcjsuen: so eclipse can find it, since the links method didn't seem to work for me at first
[22:19:38] <rcjsuen> just one of many, well it is what it is
[22:19:42] <nitind> And at the same time not influence it at all.  Your call.
[22:19:54] <Muhb> the links method is actually what I tried first, but that didn't work, so I tried dropins
[22:20:07] <rcjsuen> I mean if you alrdy have all the files why don't you try to use it as a local site via p2.
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[22:20:43] <Muhb> I'm trying to avoid having p2 bloat the main eclipse installation, trying to keep everything separate
[22:21:11] <rcjsuen> bloat in what way exactly
[22:21:27] <Muhb> One of my coworkers did that a while back, and he ended up creating a custom "eclipse.zip" on the network share that had all of the necessary plugins installed, but it was such a pain to download
[22:22:53] <rcjsuen> I wonder why p2 is even trying to look for a repository in the dropins/ folder.
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[22:29:40] <Muhb> Not sure, I haven't had much experience with eclipse, I usually prefer notepad++ and cygwin, or nedit and gcc/javac when in linux
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[22:30:24] <Muhb> But now I need to set up a portable/modular environment without installing plugins directly to $eclipse_home, if I can help it
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[22:51:00] <Muhb> rcjsuen: I meant "bloat" in terms of installing plugins directly in the main eclipse installation directory structure... I'd prefer to keep them separate, as it would make things easier to manage in the long run.
[22:51:24] <rcjsuen> Maybe you should look at Yoxos.
[22:51:29] <rcjsuen> Or Pulse, or some other third-party solution.
[22:52:29] <rcjsuen> You should also try asking on the Equinox forums
[22:52:40] <Muhb> Eclipse has the functionality I need, I'm just having a heck of a time figuring out how to get it to work.
[22:52:46] <rcjsuen> get yourself heard (beyond just IRC)
[22:54:46] <rcjsuen> I'm not even sure you should just throw everything in dropins/ if you have a direct mirror.
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[22:56:16] <Muhb> I don't know that I have a complete mirror... as far as my untrained eyes can tell, it LOOKS complete, and I don't believe I'm missing any dependencies, but if it won't load via dropins then I'm honestly not sure what's wrong...
[22:57:09] <Muhb> throwing everything in dropins/ was a sidetracked effort, I was desperate just to get anything to load
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[22:57:52] <rcjsuen> Did you try using p2 to install it first before trying dropins?
[22:57:57] <rcjsuen> That would confirm whether you even have the right content.
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[23:02:00] <Muhb> good idea, I'll try that...
[23:02:20] <Muhb> I was meaning to try that earlier, but got sidetracked and forgot to actually attempt it
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[23:03:30] <Muhb> ...well, it worked... but I have a feeling that even though I unchecked the box that asks it to connect to other update sites, I think it may have downloaded a dependency or two that I may have missed... let me try installing it again with no internet connection to be sure that's what happened.
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[23:12:09] <MarkG123> Is there something other than Subclipse for Eclipse.  It's driving me nuts I want to smash my PC with a hammer...
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[23:26:36] <SkyFlyer> Anyone know why the connection keeps timing out and won't stay connected on a remote ftp setup ?  Almost everytime I hit save, it says connection reset
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[23:28:05] <mh_le> I have written a file on another computer, but when I import it from SVN, local characters are not shown - only as little boxes.. how can I fix it?
[23:28:29] <FauxFaux> Window -> preferences -> encoding.
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[23:33:11] <MarkG123> dumb question, it's really obvious how to INSTALL addons in Eclipse, but to UNINSTALL?????
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[23:33:44] <FauxFaux> MarkG123: Help -> about -> installation details.
[23:34:42] <mh_le> FauxFaux: there arn't any tab for encoding at the specified loacation
[23:34:43] <MarkG123> thanks, would have never found that by chance....
[23:35:06] <FauxFaux> mh_le: There is a HUGE SEARCH BOX though.
[23:36:23] <mh_le> FauxFaux: indeed there is, but you might want to suggest that from the start if the alternative is incorrect information
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[23:36:55] <FauxFaux> You can't find something, and, instead of searching for it (which is /the default action anyway/) you come back to irc?
[23:38:26] <mh_le> FauxFaux: no my assumption is that you gave me correct information and I was looking in the wrong place. I will remember I can assume no such thing in the future when speaking with you.
[23:39:21] <FauxFaux> Window -> preferences doesn't even show the same thing each time you open it..
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[23:41:14] <FauxFaux> i.e. there is no concievable way that I could've known what you'd be seeing.  In fact, I was refering to /two/ things, not just one, and the search happens to hilight them perfectly.  In any other channel I'd've gone with "It's an encoding issue, check the encoding on both machines and that svn isn't shitting all over your face", but I decided to be helpful.
[23:42:34] <FauxFaux> And, while we're having a rant about people who help you for free on irc, your question was fucking terrible.  Had you stated that one machine was linux and the other was windows, and that you were expecting your non-lower-ascii characters to show up, it'd've been /immediately/ obvious what the problem was.  Did you re-try it without SVN?  Why not?  Did you try other editors?  Why not?
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[23:43:20] <FauxFaux> I assume it's because you don't actually care about getting an answer to your question.. much like I barely even care about answering it.  But I did.  Then you complain.  Thanks.  You've basically ruined my evening.
[23:44:07] <mh_le> FauxFaux: I'm not the one who started complaining
[23:44:29] <mh_le> anyway I'm not in the mood for having this discussion
[23:44:32] <FauxFaux> Uh, yes you were.
[23:45:10] <nitind> mh_le: Try changing your default text font.  Linux users on Ubuntu seem to be running into that recently.
[23:47:47] <nitind> mh_le: Typing 'encoding' into the preference dialog's filter box will show pages related to encoding.  There's no page solely dedicated to Encoding, but you were probably being directed to the General/Workspace preference page.  I still think it might be the font.
[23:48:43] <mh_le> I see that I was unclear with my question, sorry. I will restate. I have writen a document on a windows machine (running eclipse) and uploaded it to SVN. Now on anohter windows machine, I am viewing the document, and some characters local to my language is missing.
[23:49:07] <mh_le> nitind: So I understand now
[23:49:18] <nitind> mh_le: Are you using the same font on both machines?
[23:49:53] <mh_le> I have not changed anything from their defaults in that regard
[23:50:10] <nitind> mh_le: ok, but still, please double-check.
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[23:50:23] <mh_le> I will
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[23:54:34] <mh_le> nitind: I don't have access to the other machine, but it's a plain text file, and other files show up fine
[23:55:22] <nitind> mh_le: As you said, some characters local to your language are missing.  There's not really any such thing as a plain text file.
[23:55:52] <nitind> mh_le: You're going to need access to the other machine to troubleshoot this properly.
[23:58:13] <mh_le> ok, will see to it tomorrow, thank you.
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