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[00:42:00] <ankk> hi
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[00:42:31] <ankk> i'm using eclipse pdt, also i'm using xdebugger addon. i started a debug on a test php page
[00:42:59] <ankk> but it keeps saying "Web Launch Alread Running"
[00:43:04] <ankk> how can i terminate web launch?
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[00:48:32] <kjames> Hi all, when writing a plugin is there a way to get a reference to the project a wizard was started within?
[00:55:05] <rcjsuen> the selection information is made available to the wizard
[00:57:46] <kjames> Is that the IStructuredSelection passed into init()?
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[01:47:34] <Cairo> is there a keyshortcut to clean a project? (make clean)
[01:54:06] <FauxFaux> You can search for them or bind one from preferences -> keys.
[01:55:21] <Cairo> ok
[01:55:22] <Cairo> thanks
[01:55:31] <Cairo> wait
[01:55:33] <Cairo> preferences?
[01:55:34] <Cairo> wehre?
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[01:57:06] <FauxFaux> Cunningly hidden under "keys", like I suggested.
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[02:00:55] <Cairo> what preferences though?
[02:01:17] <FauxFaux> The keys ones?
[02:01:40] <hekmatof> hi all, I have a problem when I'm going to design tab in windowsBuilder I get an error about "no more handle", I'm using x86_64 ArchLinux
[02:01:48] <hekmatof> can anybody help me?
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[02:02:37] <Cairo> meh
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[02:06:24] <hekmatof> anyone have the same issue on linux?
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[02:34:08] <hekmatof> sorry I disconnected
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[02:34:52] <hekmatof> I explained I get an error(no more handle) when going to design tab of WindowsBuilder
[02:35:33] <hekmatof> is there anyone help me?
[02:35:36] <rcjsuen> that would probably depend on the root of the error
[02:36:38] <hekmatof> I understand when WindowsBuilder want to create a new shell, get's the Error , No more Handle
[02:36:58] <hekmatof> Also I'm using Arch-Linux x86-64
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[03:37:22] <hekmatof> is there anyone use eclipse on linux?
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[11:06:05] <oal_> What's the recommended plugin for css/html completion in eclipse?
[11:17:11] <ankk> i always wanted to do this
[11:17:13] <ankk> http://tinyurl.com/3oypa4x
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[13:17:20] <nitind> ankk: There's always Arbalest's ~wtp message
[13:17:20] <Arbalest> Check out Eclipse's Web Tools Platform - http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/ - It includes tools for working with XML files, web pages, Java EE artifacts, and much more.
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[15:32:16] <siq_sql> any good books for perl debugger with eclipse?
[15:38:11] <hekmatof> any one using eclipse on linux?
[15:39:46] <rcjsuen> lots of people
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[15:41:20] <hekmatof> rcjsuen: I have a problem with windowsBuilder(swt designer) on archlinux(x86-64)
[15:41:25] <hekmatof> can you help me?
[15:42:25] <FauxFaux> hekmatof: Arrrrgh!  Your question is entirely useless.  Fill in the blanks: "I tried [X] in [Y].  I got [A] but I was expecting [B].  The simplest way I can think to reproduce this is [C]."  Reply on one line.  If it doesn't fit, use a pastebin.  Do not even think of speaking before fully filling in the question.
[15:43:57] <hekmatof> ok when I go to the design mode of windowsBuilder I got the error of No more handle. what should I do?
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[15:44:33] <siq_sql> i feel 64-bit windows version is not quite stable for perl debugger, is it?
[15:45:26] <rcjsuen> hekmatof: Try a 32-bit Eclipse if you haven't alrdy.
[15:46:24] <hekmatof> rcjsuen: all right, I'm going to test it
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[15:54:57] <hekmatof> rcjsuen: it does not execute. I untar my binary package. should I inistall it by pacman(arch linux package manager?)
[15:55:19] <rcjsuen> if it doesn't run it probably means you don't have a 32-bit jre
[15:56:12] <hekmatof> rcjsuen: yes you'r right, so I'm going to inistall 32-bit OpenJDK ;)
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[16:20:56] <casbah> Hi, how well is eclim plugin in replicating vim commands and shortcuts?
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[16:31:06] <nitind> casbah: If Eclim has a discussion forum, you should (also) ask there.  As a vim user, though, I'll never use a plug-in to make Eclipse act like vim.
[16:31:22] <casbah> nitind: well i'm used to vim
[16:31:38] <casbah> but i started college and we are starting in cs 101 with java & eclipse...
[16:31:53] * ron sighs
[16:31:54] <casbah> why not though nitind ?
[16:31:56] <nitind> siq_sql: Maybe you should ask in a Perl channel.
[16:33:08] <nitind> casbah: If I wanted to use vim or was stuck in a terminal interface, I'd use vim.  I'm not generally stuck in terminals in my desktop, even if I always have at least one or two open.
[16:33:24] <ron> I really hate the 'how can I make eclipse more vim-like?' line of questions.
[16:33:52] <casbah> why's that ron ?
[16:34:10] <ron> See nitind's comment.
[16:34:30] <nitind> casbah: Either you want to use Eclipse, in which case, JUMP IN, or just stick with vim.
[16:34:43] * ron high-5's nitind
[16:35:02] <ron> okay, time to go home. see you later.
[16:35:52] <casbah> nitind: well i'm forced to use eclipse because of the refactoring stuff apparently, but i'd rather not tbh
[16:36:02] <casbah> just try to feel comfortable in eclipse
[16:36:22] <casbah> and port over my muscle-memory movement stuff from vim into eclipse
[16:36:23] <rcjsuen> You mean the course mandates you use it?
[16:36:31] <casbah> rcjsuen: no, just recommended
[16:37:08] <nitind> If you're relying on something like Eclim, you'll probably _never_ actually become comfortable in Eclipse.
[16:37:23] <casbah> was playing with eclim and most things work, just wondering what the pitfalls are
[16:37:27] <casbah> why's that nitind ?
[16:37:52] <casbah> what are the things i'm missing by using eclim all the time in eclipse?
[16:39:06] <rcjsuen> I guess you'd get in trouble if you use someone's computer without Eclim :)
[16:39:23] <casbah> i don't plan on using eclipse outside of school work anyways..
[16:39:27] <casbah> no offense intended
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[16:39:38] <rcjsuen> casbah: That's why I said "soemone's computer"
[16:39:49] <rcjsuen> well unless if you were helping a friend you just opened a terminal instead of using his/her existing Eclipse instance
[16:39:52] <rcjsuen> then what I said can be ignored
[16:40:50] <casbah> lol, if i'm helping friends in class it'll be online through etherpad or something, where i can just use my vim...kinda beating around the bush with your answers though
[16:41:02] <casbah> i guess i'll just go with eclim hopefully not bumping up with any probs
[16:41:28] <casbah> i'll ask in eclim forums if they have them like you suggested nitind, maybe they'll be more helpful
[16:41:32] <casbah> thanks anyways
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[17:33:22] <nitind> Why am I seeing problems about "Attribute 'version' of element 'plugin' must be defined." for plugin.xml files when even the Platform plug-ins don't define one?
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[17:52:55] <sorcam> Can I get assistance for egit here?
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[17:53:26] <sorcam> My problem is that performing a "hard reset" is not removing untracked files and folders from my checkout.
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[17:58:58] <pulse00> hi all. can anyone recommend a way to create automated nightly builds of eclipse RCP applications?
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[18:00:25] <ron> use a build server?
[18:01:14] <_nor> hey, i'm having a weird eclipse issue. copy&paste doesnt work anymore
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[18:01:46] <rcjsuen> sorcam: That sounds like a bug.
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[18:03:34] <pulse00> ron, you mean something like buckminster + hudson ?
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[18:05:26] <_nor> nevermind, guess it was a java issue, as another app crashed and i didnt notice it
[18:06:21] <rcjsuen> sorcam: Though I think git clean is supposed to do that. Reset won't.
[18:06:47] <sorcam> rcjsuen: ah, I see. Trying now.
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[18:08:42] <sorcam> rcjsuen: which isn't implemented yet, I see :)
[18:08:47] <rcjsuen> Nope.
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[18:09:05] <sorcam> thanks for pointing me in the right direction
[18:09:27] <sorcam> I guess I just have to do this manually.
[18:09:35] <rcjsuen> ~338717
[18:09:36] <Arbalest> Bug 338717 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=338717 - EGit / UI / unspecified - PC / Linux - NEW / enhancement / - Assignee: egit.ui-inbox - Can't seem to 'clean' my working directory
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[18:22:13] <ron> pulse00: not familiar with buckminster but hudson/jenkins - sure.
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[18:25:02] <helindbe> pulse00: This is a good starting point http://www.ralfebert.de/blog/eclipsercp/rcp_builds/
[18:26:30] <pulse00> helindbe, thanks. i've tried that already and failed as it's written for eclipse 3.5. couldn't find the solutions for 3.7. anyway, i thought there might be a more straightforward way of doing this, but i think i have to see how to get this going on 3.7
[18:31:24] <helindbe> pulse00: search/ask on the buckminster forum - news://news.eclipse.org:119/eclipse.tools.buckminster I think others have asked the same question (they usually start, Hi, I have followed Ralf Elbert's blog.... and ....)
[18:33:27] <helindbe> pulse00: when getting started, it is best to make the build work in the IDE first, or it is difficult to figure out where problems originate
[18:33:48] <pulse00> helindbe, thanks for the hints.
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[20:19:07] <djMax> I think Eclipse is lying to me in the problems window. How do I see the raw java compiler output?
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[20:19:24] <rcjsuen> djMax: You can't.
[20:19:34] <djMax> well this is fun.
[20:19:37] <ron> of course you can.
[20:19:42] <djMax> It says a library is missing, but it just isn't.
[20:19:49] <ron> compile in command line.
[20:19:59] <rcjsuen> How do you know "it just isn't"
[20:20:02] <ron> clean.
[20:20:10] <djMax> done, thrice.
[20:20:36] <ron> and as for rcjsuen's question?
[20:20:54] <djMax> because I remove it from the build path and put it back again, picking it from the disk
[20:21:07] <ron> rcjsuen: is paulweb515_ ok? haven't seen him around in ages.
[20:21:24] <rcjsuen> he's on leave
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[20:21:38] <ron> ah. vacation?
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[20:22:35] <djMax> so while perhaps there's something wrong with the library, not sure how I can tell what if I can't see the compiler output.
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[20:24:05] <djMax> how do I compile from the command line? Figure out all the javac args manually?
[20:24:09] <nitind> djMax: If it's on the Build Path now, you should be able to look inside it from the Package/Project Explorer Views.
[20:24:27] <djMax> yep, it opens up ok, has the classes I expect
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[20:24:41] <nitind> top-level folder in the jar is org or com or whatever?
[20:25:20] <djMax> I should say, this workspace is fine on a Mac, just trying to get the PC side to build also
[20:25:33] <djMax> top folder is lombok
[20:25:39] <djMax> they're weird like that.
[20:25:49] <nitind> First part of the package names for the classes is lombok?
[20:26:04] <djMax> yes
[20:26:14] <nitind> Did it say the library was missing, or files?
[20:26:30] <djMax> library
[20:26:41] <nitind> And it still says that?
[20:26:45] <djMax> Project 'proto' is missing required library: '/lib/lombok.jar'
[20:26:47] <djMax> indeed.
[20:27:00] <nitind> That's where it is in the project?
[20:27:18] <djMax> yes
[20:27:31] <nitind> You've cleaned and let it rebuild?
[20:27:35] <djMax> I've put all my external libs in a generic project inside the workspace.
[20:27:42] <djMax> Yes, afaict
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[20:27:56] <nitind> lib is the project's name?
[20:28:08] <djMax> though when I clean, I don't see the errors clear out
[20:28:11] <djMax> lib is the external lib project name, yes.
[20:28:14] <djMax> my project is "proto"
[20:28:17] <ron> use maven :)
[20:28:54] <djMax> Yeah, I messed with that for long enough when I started working on this to know I didn't want it yet. But sooner or later.
[20:29:04] <nitind> You can see the library in the lib project using the Navigator view?
[20:29:16] <djMax> but I really don't get the rationale behind eclipse hiding the compiler output from me
[20:29:32] <nitind> It's not hiding anything, it's internal.  It doesn't have that kind of output.
[20:30:22] <ron> eclipse doesn't use the javac compiler.
[20:30:33] <djMax> even worse. But ok.
[20:31:04] <djMax> guess I can try and update eclipse or something, not sure what else to do
[20:31:37] <ron> which eclipse version do you use?
[20:31:46] <djMax> Helios
[20:31:55] <djMax> SR2
[20:32:14] <ron> well, I doubt updating to indigo would solve it.
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[20:33:50] <djMax> the thing is this project uses the google protobuf compiler, and the only thing I can think of is that it is failing.
[20:34:07] <djMax> But if the "Problems" window doesn't lie, then there's a bug in eclipse's java compiler.
[20:34:21] <ron> or you misuse it.
[20:35:01] <djMax> I'm not sure how. How it behaves normally on one machine and not another when they both worked at one point.
[20:35:08] <rcjsuen> if you delete the problem and then clean the project(s), does the problem come back?
[20:35:16] <djMax> Though of course you're right, it's the most likely cause. Just have no idea how to figure it out.
[20:35:31] <djMax> delete the problem how?
[20:35:44] <djMax> the bin dir is clean at the moment, oddly
[20:36:15] <rcjsuen> select the problem, and delete
[20:36:29] <rcjsuen> same way you delete things from most tables
[20:36:45] <djMax> heh. No, that seems to fix it.
[20:37:12] <djMax> I thought you meant on the file system. So what the heck is that about? Why wouldn't it remove problems when they were no longer true?
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[20:38:09] <kaje> How do I get a product version programmatically? I was expecting Platform.getProduct().getVersion() but IProduct doesn't seem to have anything related to version numbers.
[20:38:19] <ron> mysterious are the eclipse ways.
[20:38:36] <djMax> well thanks rcjsuen, I can do nothing but shake my head and move on I guess.
[20:39:22] <ron> you can file a bug report!
[20:39:31] <ron> it'll be meaningless, but you could!
[20:40:35] <djMax> :) Repro instructions: "I have no freakin' idea"
[20:40:50] <ron> :)
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[20:49:41] <rgrunber> kaje: IProduct has a getProperty(String key). If you know the key for version number you could maybe get it through there.
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[20:50:46] <kaje> Yeah, I looked at IProductConstants for the key and I didn't find it. Maybe there is another list of constants that the key is in.
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[21:55:43] <Parabola> hey guys, i tried googling and didnt find a result that I could get working, i'm using the maven plugin, and trying to configure the pom.xml for my local GIT repository
[21:56:05] <Parabola> i dont have a "test" option or anything, it just says no SCM url provided (when there is one there)
[21:56:43] <nitind> Which Maven plug-in?  As in, from where?
[21:56:49] <Parabola> marketplace
[21:56:59] <Parabola> i used the eclipse provided one
[21:57:17] <nitind> Sounds like a bug.
[21:57:29] <Parabola> i can almost assure you its not a bug
[21:57:52] <Parabola> you're making a bad assumption that I am a capable user who has experience, or knows what hes doing
[21:57:56] <Parabola> :)
[21:58:19] <Parabola> that field gives zero information on what the hell it actually wants
[21:58:28] <Parabola> i tried git://localhost/path/to/repo
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[22:02:25] <myusuf3> briandealwis, does tycho have an irc?
[22:02:42] <briandealwis> Not that I'm aware of.
[22:02:54] <myusuf3> briandealwis, mailing list only huh?
[22:03:06] <myusuf3> have you seen this before when packagin eclipse
[22:03:06] <briandealwis> That and bugzilla
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[22:03:16] <parco> hi, i have a source library with folder like com, de, org, etc.. how can i add this to my eclipse environment, so that i can patch and export as JAR
[22:03:42] <myusuf3> briandealwis, http://pastie.org/2450515
[22:03:48] <briandealwis> parco: add the previous folder as a source folder.
[22:03:59] <briandealwis> parco: see your project's properties
[22:06:31] <briandealwis> myusuf3: that code in question loops over the product directories found in target/products/<<product-id>>-<<os-ws-arch>>
[22:06:50] <briandealwis> My guess is that your target environment is not properly configured
[22:07:07] <briandealwis> ?and so you're not producing any actual products
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[22:08:03] <myusuf3> and so the NPE?
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[22:09:16] <briandealwis> myusuf3: here's the code in question: https://github.com/sonatype/sonatype-tycho/blob/master/tycho-p2/tycho-p2-director-plugin/src/main/java/org/eclipse/tycho/plugins/p2/director/ProductConfig.java
[22:09:29] <parco> ok thanks it worked bra!
[22:09:42] <briandealwis> myusuf3: productIDs is null
[22:10:05] <briandealwis> baseDir is likely your '.../target/products'
[22:10:36] <briandealwis> Take a look at the log of your build, and see what products were actually created
[22:11:30] <briandealwis> you should see calls to the director for each configured platform as per your target environment
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[22:12:10] <myusuf3> briandealwis, so I am using the stuff under product
[22:12:14] <myusuf3> here, http://wiki.eclipse.org/Tycho/Reference_Card
[22:12:27] <myusuf3> is that the correct way to specify it.
[22:13:58] <briandealwis> myusuf3: It is, but somewhere you need to specify the target platform environments.  See the <environments> section in the parent pom: http://wiki.eclipse.org/Tycho/Reference_Card#Examplary_parent_POM
[22:14:34] <myusuf3> but where does it get the products? I dont have to specify it anywhere?
[22:15:47] <myusuf3> I have the environments specified
[22:18:25] <myusuf3> briandealwis, could you point me at an example product built with tycho?
[22:19:16] <briandealwis> myusuf3: the best examples are the demos included in Tycho itself.  Guaranteed to be up to date.  https://github.com/sonatype/sonatype-tycho/tree/master/tycho-demo
[22:19:53] <briandealwis> myusuf3: there's also the Minerva project that serves as an exemplar for a more complicated Eclipse-based product  http://wiki.eclipse.org/Minerva
[22:20:13] <myusuf3> briandealwis, thanks alot! I will take a look!
[22:21:14] <briandealwis> myusuf3: I highly recommend committing frequently, as soon as you have something seeming to work.  It's too easy to make a seemingly innocuous change and break everything, and spend half-an-hour trying to get back to your original state.
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[22:26:24] <littlebop> hi there
[22:26:55] <littlebop> I've seen that I can join this channel to discuss about PDE
[22:26:58] <littlebop> Am I right?
[22:27:32] <briandealwis> littlebop: yup.  Is that your only question? :)
[22:27:38] <littlebop> nop
[22:27:44] <littlebop> I've a problem
[22:28:00] <littlebop> an want to tell someone that I do well
[22:28:10] <littlebop> I've a bundle which export a package
[22:28:16] <littlebop> and add a Jar in its classpath
[22:28:24] <littlebop> this included Jar contains the package to export
[22:28:32] <littlebop> the exports works well
[22:28:46] <littlebop> I set a personal Target Platform in another workspace
[22:28:56] <littlebop> which refers to this exported plugin
[22:29:07] <littlebop> now, I can import this package through the PDE
[22:29:11] <myusuf3> briandealwis, haha your telling me! :)
[22:29:24] <littlebop> but, I'm not able to use the types included in this package
[22:29:28] <myusuf3> briandealwis, in the demo they dont specify an eclipse-application is that wrong all I see is eclipse plugins
[22:29:45] <briandealwis> myusuf3: they're using eclipse-repository ? eclipse-application is deprecated
[22:29:54] <littlebop> If I do the same without any included Jar, but directly exporting package in the bundle, it works
[22:30:02] <briandealwis> littlebop: can you post the MANIFEST.MF for your bundle?
[22:30:03] <littlebop> I think, this is a bug in JDT/PDE
[22:30:52] <littlebop> briandealwis:  http://pastebin.com/WPnJPgWq
[22:31:12] <littlebop> the source project contains a first package zpe.mylib2 which contains MyType2
[22:31:33] <littlebop> and a Jar file caming from a classical Java project containing a package zpe.mylib which contains MyType
[22:32:12] <briandealwis> littlebop: and you can confirm that the .jar file has been included in the bundle?
[22:32:17] <myusuf3> how do you specify the packaging type for rcp? eclipse-plugin?
[22:32:31] <littlebop> briandealwis: yes, I've double checked this
[22:32:36] <briandealwis> littlebop: (i.e., you've properly configured build.properties to export it)
[22:32:41] <littlebop> and I'm able to import the package through the PDE
[22:32:59] <littlebop> but only import the package, impossible to find the types in through the JDT
[22:33:28] <briandealwis> littlebop: what happens if you import MyType in a source file and use it?  What error is flagged?
[22:33:30] <littlebop> briandealwis: (je build.properties is good and the exported Jar file contains the included Jar)
[22:34:11] <briandealwis> littlebop: might the .jar file rely on another library or class that's not found?
[22:34:18] <littlebop> when importing the type in a source file of plugin "importer", je JDT says that "The import zpe.mylib cannot be resolved"
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[22:34:39] <littlebop> the .jar contains a single class MyType
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[22:34:48] <littlebop> which just sysout
[22:35:00] <briandealwis> myusuf3: there's no single packaging for an RCP app: eclipse-plugin for a bundle, eclipse-feature for a feature, and eclipse-repository for a repository.  But you can also publish product files into and then materialize them from an eclipse-repository
[22:35:25] <littlebop> briandealwis: but the PDE imports it well
[22:35:30] <myusuf3> okay
[22:35:35] <myusuf3> so I have all that done.
[22:35:52] <myusuf3> so what I am missing is the target definition then?
[22:35:56] <briandealwis> littlebop: are you on Indigo or Helios?
[22:36:09] <littlebop> Version: 3.5.2
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[22:36:49] <briandealwis> littlebop: ok, the target platform saw some rework for Indigo that made it much more robust.  It could get into rather flakey states in Galileo and Helios.
[22:37:04] <myusuf3> briandealwis, what does the target-definition model
[22:37:12] <littlebop> ok, I'll check with a tar ball from eclipse.org
[22:37:17] <littlebop> with the 3.6.x
[22:37:27] <myusuf3> module*
[22:37:31] <briandealwis> littlebop: if you can, upgrade.  If you can't, you may need to blow away your workspace/.metadata and re-import your projects
[22:37:47] <briandealwis> littlebop: 3.7 is the latest and greatest, and much recommended even over 3.6/Helios
[22:37:56] <littlebop> okay, not a problem, these projects are tests
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[22:38:20] <littlebop> yes, but I work in a project that require a specific version of eclipse
[22:38:39] <littlebop> but, I'll check if the problem is reproductible on later versions
[22:39:23] <briandealwis> littlebop: then you may want to consider a support contract with an organization that will backport fixes
[22:39:32] <briandealwis> myusuf3: I'm not sure what you're asking about
[22:39:56] <littlebop> briandealwis: I'll tell my boss! but not sure he accept for my needs ;-)
[22:40:29] <littlebop> waiting for eclipse download, I ask another distinct question
[22:40:48] <littlebop> I didn't have seen anything about PDE Manifest editor extension
[22:40:59] <littlebop> I want to add a specific multi part editor page
[22:41:08] <littlebop> to add specific stuff to the manifest file
[22:41:20] <littlebop> is a clean & neat way to do that?
[22:41:24] <briandealwis> littlebop: I was sometimes able to get around these resolution problems by "rm -rf .../workspace/.metadata/.plugins/org.eclipse.pde.core" and then restarting and redefining a target platform
[22:41:42] <littlebop> briandealwis: I check this workaround
[22:42:06] <briandealwis> littlebop: there are likely PDE extension points; I'm not familar with that code though.  Check the PDE docs in Eclipse Help (http://help.eclipse.org)
[22:42:43] <littlebop> I've already check help but can't find anything relevant
[22:42:43] <briandealwis> littlebop: you could also ask on the pde-dev mailing list
[22:42:51] <myusuf3> briandealwis, this is the only thing I dont have https://github.com/sonatype/sonatype-tycho/tree/master/tycho-demo/itp04-rcp/target-definition
[22:43:51] <briandealwis> myusuf3: ah, that's to use a .target file to specify a target platform to compile against.  You don't have to use one ? I don't.  I just specify one of the Eclipse p2 repos
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[22:50:33] <littlebop> briandealwis: the 3.7 version works as expected...
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[22:58:55] <myusuf3> okay so I made removed eclipse-applications from the poms
[22:59:02] <myusuf3> i added the environments
[22:59:17] <myusuf3> but I am still get the null pointer exception
[22:59:42] <myusuf3> why are by productIDs still null.
[23:00:01] <briandealwis> myusuf3: what directories do you have in the target/products directory?
[23:00:20] <briandealwis> littlebop: you can always do your development using 3.7 but against 3.5
[23:00:34] <littlebop> briandealwis: the bug remains on 3.6.2
[23:00:42] <littlebop> briandealwis: yes... but no!
[23:01:51] <littlebop> We develop plugins which are compatible with 3.5.x and can't support the transition to > 3.5
[23:02:27] <littlebop> and we suggest our customers to use the PDE
[23:02:43] <littlebop> to compile their bundle (OSGi, not Eclipse/Equinox)
[23:02:55] <littlebop> because, using existing tooling is good! ;)
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[23:03:26] <littlebop> so, our tooling is compatible (supported) with 3.5.x and our customer must use 3.5
[23:03:39] <nitind> Sounds like a recipe for an unhappy customer.
[23:03:39] <littlebop> that's why it seems hard to switch for now
[23:03:54] <littlebop> nitind > depends on concerns
[23:04:33] <littlebop> the tooling around eclipse is not our main job, it's just tooling around our products
[23:04:58] <littlebop> our customers not necesserly use eclipse outside our context
[23:05:04] <myusuf3> briandealwis, no target dir.
[23:05:14] <myusuf3> where would I look in the update site or the rcp plugin
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[23:05:43] <briandealwis> myusuf3: it's the pom with the eclipse-repository packaging
[23:06:15] <littlebop> so, the workaround will to provide a target platform containing only bundles that contains .class of their exported packages
[23:06:34] <myusuf3> there is no product dir there
[23:06:48] <myusuf3> briandealwis, just p2agent publisherRepo, and repository
[23:07:14] <myusuf3> within repository we have all the plugins and features
[23:07:32] <briandealwis> myusuf3: you should have some directory like: https://github.com/sonatype/sonatype-tycho/tree/master/tycho-demo/itp04-rcp/eclipse-repository
[23:07:34] <soc42> well, is there anybody who can help me out while transferring a local .git repo to a remote server and connecting via egit from within eclipse?
[23:08:04] <nitind> Isn't it the same problem as transferring it for the command line?
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[23:10:24] <littlebop> thanks everybody
[23:10:25] <littlebop> see ya
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[23:10:27] <myusuf3> briandealwis, yes, and the target directory contains the stuff I have listed above.
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[23:11:35] <briandealwis> myusuf3: can you stick the pom.xml in a pastebin?
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[23:12:02] <briandealwis> myusuf3: it sounds like materialize-products isn't happening, or you're specifying it out of order
[23:12:30] <myusuf3> briandealwis, sure one second
[23:14:12] <myusuf3> briandealwis, http://pastie.org/2450914
[23:15:06] <briandealwis> myusuf3: and you have your .product file in the same directory, right?
[23:15:59] <siq_sql> The Art of Debugging with GDB, DDD, and Eclipse , is the book good ?
[23:16:11] <myusuf3> briandealwis, .project?
[23:16:28] <heinz> siq_sql: mentioning 'ddd' does not bode well
[23:16:41] <briandealwis> myusuf3: no, the product file: see https://github.com/sonatype/sonatype-tycho/blob/master/tycho-demo/itp04-rcp/eclipse-repository/example.product
[23:17:07] <myusuf3> just saw it
[23:17:12] <myusuf3> is that what it is looking for?
[23:17:18] <briandealwis> yup
[23:17:32] <myusuf3> kk let me add that; that just basically the features and plugins I need in rcp app
[23:17:33] <myusuf3> correct?
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[23:18:06] <briandealwis> Yes.  The .product file is used by the materialize-products to assemble a product that's placed in target/products/<<product-id>>-<<os-ws-arch>>
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[23:18:13] <thandruil> Hi. :)
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[23:18:27] <thandruil> This channel also for questions?
[23:18:28] <briandealwis> myusuf3: you also need to populate a repository with the features and plugins ? that's the "category.xml" and the tycho-p2-publisher-plugin - publishArtifacts clause does
[23:18:34] <briandealwis> thandruil: yup
[23:18:40] <thandruil> K.
[23:18:40] <siq_sql> heinz, not sure what is DDD here?
[23:19:05] <thandruil> I have some problem with connecting Eclipse to SourceForge CVS. Can anyone help me?
[23:19:20] <briandealwis> siq_sql: http://www.gnu.org/software/ddd/
[23:19:21] <heinz> siq_sql: DDD is a gdb frontend.
[23:19:47] <briandealwis> thandruil: quite likely: describe what you're doing and what's not working
[23:19:53] <siq_sql> so Mac has the GDB, DDD too
[23:20:04] <heinz> siq_sql: a very unstable and inconvenient one.
[23:20:42] <heinz> siq_sql: how old is the book?
[23:20:44] <siq_sql> i am getting Mac soon, I need a stable debugger for Perl/python and PG
[23:20:45] <thandruil> Okay, I just set up a SourceForge account, and I'm trying to use the CVS with Eclipse. But I don't exactly know how to get it working.
[23:21:39] <heinz> siq_sql: found it September 2008.
[23:21:50] <heinz> siq_sql: that's impressive.
[23:22:13] <siq_sql> i like to learn eclips, is it eclips consumes lots of cpu/memory?
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[23:23:17] <heinz> siq_sql: yes. but in most cases you get some functionality for that in exchange. eclipse is vast.
[23:23:23] <briandealwis> thandruil: there are a number of tutorials on the web.  This looks pretty good: http://www.avajava.com/tutorials/lessons/how-do-i-connect-to-a-cvs-repository-in-eclipse.html
[23:23:49] <thandruil> Thanks. :) Also works with latest version of Eclipse?
[23:24:36] <briandealwis> thandruil: that stuff hasn't changed in ages
[23:24:45] <thandruil> OHkay. :) Thnx man!
[23:25:26] <heinz> siq_sql: gdb is a debugger for C, C++, Ada, Pascal, FORTRAN, and a few others, but neither for perl nor for python
[23:26:36] <siq_sql> eclipse and Padre can do perl debugger
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[23:28:10] <heinz> siq_sql: but that's unrelated to gdb
[23:28:11] <thandruil> What would be the CVS variables for SourceForge?
[23:28:43] <siq_sql> avajava.com has some tutorial I can read, but I want to focus on Perl more
[23:28:45] <myusuf3> so briandealwis i have the category.xml no prob. why doesn't the rcp app have the .product file and not the updatesite
[23:28:54] <myusuf3> would I have to copy it over from rcp app
[23:29:21] <myusuf3> btw repostiory package exsisted before the rcp plugin
[23:29:28] <briandealwis> um, update sites are deprecated ? you should be pointing people to a p2 repo instead
[23:29:43] <eross> i tried to create a 'hello world' in a java application, could not run the .jar file after exporting. complained about java paths although I have java 1.6_026 installed
[23:29:56] <briandealwis> myusuf3: sorry, but I gotta go ? wife's home.  Keep pluggin on the itp04-demo
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[23:32:40] <thandruil> What would be the CVS variables for SourceForge?
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[23:33:32] <rcjsuen> i think that should be on your project's site
[23:36:03] <myusuf3> rcjsuen, hmm?
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[23:37:37] <myusuf3> rcjsuen, I agree but why doesn't it exsist there
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[23:39:35] <thandruil> Help! Got the host now, but what is the repository path for SF?
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[23:42:24] <thandruil> Yay!
[23:42:26] <thandruil> Got it working!
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[23:53:40] <v0n> hi
[23:53:57] <v0n> how to set configure arguments to a C/C++ project?

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