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[01:20:06] <martianixor> hi, I have Eclipse Indigo installed, after installing the PHP PDT, then restarting Eclipse, I couldn't find it in Perspectives
[01:23:26] <martianixor> Is there a bug of some sort?
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[01:24:41] <martianixor> OK checking the forum now
[01:26:14] <martianixor> should I revert to Helios?
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[01:28:04] <martianixor> Is this >> http://goo.gl/Mdme6  still valid?
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[03:01:43] <SJr> How do I update Eclipse?
[03:02:13] <SJr> to the latest version I mean, internally it only seems to stay within the same minor number (i.e. 3.6 or whatever)
[03:03:22] <SJr> Found it
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[03:48:53] <seronis> how do i make the toggle arrows in the package explorer stop wasting so much horizontal space?
[03:49:36] <seronis> i want to get rid of all the whitespace on each side of it so that i dont have to scroll over to view the files
[03:50:41] <seronis> andobviously prevent the next row from being tabbed over so far too
[03:52:30] <nitind> toggle arrows?
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[04:05:21] <seronis> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13440285/yeclipse.png
[04:05:25] <seronis> nitind:
[04:05:46] <seronis> thats what i want.   cant find a config to allow it
[04:14:10] <eMBee> i have no clue, but i doubt that is configurable in the interface.
[04:14:30] <eMBee> if you are lucky there is a template file somewhere, but most likely it is hardcoded
[04:15:40] <drthingums> seronis: I don't think there is a way to do that, but go to Preferences>General>Appearance>Enable Traditional Style Tabs.
[04:16:26] <drthingums> That's another way to save space. I personally think it should be on by default.
[04:17:14] <SJr> How do I get Eclipse to not bother checking files in certain directories for errors?
[04:17:56] <seronis> that does help a bit with my tabs,  thank you.   i generally have my package explorer on as wide as the  'E'  in Entity..  which means i cant read any file names without scrolling which is annoying
[04:18:10] <seronis> on/only
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[04:44:53] <nitind> seronis: That's kind of up to your OS's tree control, although it looks a little wider than it should in your image.
[04:45:23] <nitind> SJr: Depends on the kind of files you mean, and what kind of errors are being reported.
[04:47:52] <SJr> like HTML files and they are like syntax errors
[04:48:33] <SJr> The files in this directory are sort of compiled cache files not really used
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[04:58:07] <nitind> SJr: Check the project's Validation property page and the settings on the HTML Syntax Validator.  For those error messages at least.
[04:58:32] * eMBee is still having trouble importing git projects
[04:58:59] <SJr> thanks
[04:59:56] <eMBee> Error processing changed links in project description file. Cannot create a link to '/repo/eclipse/javaclient' because it overlaps the location of the project that contains the linked resource.
[05:00:30] <eMBee> /repo/eclipse/javaclient is the location of the git repo, and it is also referenced in the .project file as a resource location
[05:01:01] <eMBee> the .project files has been created manually, because the git wizard can not import projects from an ant build file
[05:01:29] <eMBee> where should the resource be? in workspace?
[05:05:17] <eMBee> if i change the path the import works, but the new destination path is not created
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[05:05:33] <eMBee> so what is exactly being liked there, from where?
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[05:09:30] <VectorX> hi, working on a php project, on a joomla component, pdt with remote debuging, i got debugBreak(); inside a component file i am working on, but when the file with the command is called, i get a blank page and the debug session doesnt break aswell
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[05:17:45] <eMBee> also, supposedly a .project file can be shared by multiple users (when the clone the repository with the .project file) but how is this supposed to work if the paths in the .project file are absolute and contain user homedirectorues. (which is what eclipse generates)
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[05:20:52] <ron> just because it *can* be shared, doesn't mean it *should* be shared.
[05:21:57] <eMBee> ok, i get that :-)
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[05:23:32] <eMBee> although http://help.eclipse.org/helios/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/misc/project_description_file.html explicitly says: The purpose of this file is to make the project self-describing, so that a project that is zipped up or released to a server can be correctly recreated in another workspace.
[05:23:53] <eMBee> but with absolute paths this will most always fail
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[05:27:28] <ron> right.
[05:28:39] <eMBee> since this is the purpose it doesn't really sound like a documentation error (although it still could be)
[05:32:23] <ron> it's not. if the project has no external dependencies, it'd work great.
[05:35:08] <eMBee> ok, also i just looked up linkedResources, and they are supposed to point to stuff outside the project, so i wonder why i have that in the .project file. (it was generated from an ant build import)
[05:35:33] <eMBee> oh, i imported the project from a location outside the workspace
[05:36:34] <eMBee> so i should just be able to delete the resources
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[05:47:51] <eMBee> removing the linkedResources indeed seems to help
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[05:52:06] <DanC> eclipse torrents are SLOW! I think I'm going to be able to download the whole 211 MB IDE faster than downloading the 17k .torrent file
[05:54:54] <DanC> 41min left on the .torrent; 6min left on the .tar.gz
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[06:06:45] <martianixor> hi, is it possible to install new plugins like PyDev or PDT for eclipse springsource?
[06:10:13] <martianixor> am I asking the wrong questions?
[06:11:30] <eMBee> i don't know, but i'd give it more time for someone to respond
[06:13:01] <eMBee> DanC: you mean downloading the .torrent file itself is slow? not running the torrent client and getting the actual IDE archive?
[06:13:14] <DanC> the .torrent file itself.
[06:13:48] <eMBee> that's funny :-) maybe your isp is trying to discourage downloading torrents in some wierd way?
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[06:14:04] <DanC> hard to tell these days.
[06:14:38] <DanC> I was *shocked* the first time I learned my ISP was fidgeting with my packets. I was doing protocol design for a living, fer crissakes
[06:14:43] <DanC> now, who knows what they do.
[06:15:03] <martianixor> I'm actually trying to get all the tools/plugins in one eclipse installation is that possible?
[06:15:21] <eMBee> here the .torrent file downloaded in seconds
[06:15:34] <DanC> I wonder what you mean by "all". there are eclipse plugins all over the net, no?
[06:16:08] <martianixor> DanC: all C/C++, PyDev, PDT, springsource etc
[06:16:38] <DanC> by "etc" do you mean: all eclipse plugins in the whole world? or just those released by eclipse.org?
[06:16:40] <martianixor> and all the dependencies or requirements
[06:16:44] <DanC> oh
[06:17:03] <DanC> I can't seem to get eclipse to install more than one thing at a time. (though it does seem to grab requirements automatically)
[06:17:36] * DanC has been learning spring for a bit, but is getting tired of loose typing and is looking at seam
[06:18:26] <DanC> I see jboss tools, but I want to make sure I can build *without* eclipse too. Anybody care to suggest a seam archtype?
[06:18:40] <DanC> the one I found (http://code.google.com/p/ctpjava/wiki/JBossSeamMavenArchetype ) doesn't work.
[06:19:50] <DanC> oh... maybe not a problem with the archtype.
[06:20:07] <DanC> I see lots of Authorization failed: Access denied to: http://repository.jboss.org/maven2/ ...
[06:20:13] <martianixor> DanC: do you have an example of a Java based web application off your mind?
[06:20:48] <DanC> the one I'm building is http://informatics.kumc.edu/work/browser/raven-j
[06:21:10] <DanC> the way it works, sorta, is http://informatics.kumc.edu/work/wiki/HERONTrainingMaterials
[06:21:39] <DanC> darn; I sat down to code but used up my whole time chasing devtool rabits.
[06:22:08] * DanC tries http://software.softeu.cz/archetypes/seam-simple/
[06:23:38] * DanC thinks my vpn is screwing things up
[06:24:26] <martianixor> interesting ...
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[06:46:14] <eMBee> how do i make a diff on hidden files like .project and .classpath? i get a merge conflict, but i can't even figure out what's different because the git repository view does not have an option to compare files
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[06:55:07] <DanC> why is unsigned content the norm for eclipse plugins?
[06:55:26] <DanC> it's horrible to train people to swat away these dialogs
[06:57:54] <nitind> Signing takes more than zero effort.
[06:59:09] <DanC> so does writing something like JBoss tools.
[07:00:08] <nitind> Ask them to sign their stuff, then.
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[07:00:46] <DanC> all the plugins I have seen are unsigned. I'd ask them if everybody else were doing it. but unsigned seems to be the norm.
[07:02:37] <nitind> Plug-ins from eclipse.org are usually signed.
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[07:09:38] <martianixor> nitind: if I have eclipse springsource I can install PDT, PyDev plugins to it, is that correct?
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[07:54:43] <robert_> so how do I remove a package from eclipse? 0.o
[07:55:16] <ron> remove a package from eclipse?
[07:55:38] <robert_> like, I installed luaEclipse, and it's not working correctly
[07:55:47] <robert_> so now I want to remove it.
[07:56:27] <ron> okay, Help->About Eclipse->Installation Details. Look for it in the Installed Software tab, mark it and click Uninstall.
[07:56:44] <robert_> aha.
[07:57:30] <robert_> thanks. :D
[07:57:32] <robert_> also
[08:00:58] <robert_> org.keplerproject.ldt.feature_x64.feature.group [1.2.0.200802220021] cannot be installed in this environment because its filter is not applicable. <-- ...wut?
[08:01:37] <ron> Not sure. did you try googling it?
[08:02:08] <robert_> yes, but it didn't yield much
[08:02:40] <robert_> just a couple of forum posts and a stackoverflow post pointing to said posts
[08:02:44] <ron> don't look for something specific to  org.keplerproject.ldt.feature_x64.feature.group but rather to the error itself.
[08:03:14] <robert_> ah.
[08:04:33] <robert_> that gives me too much
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[08:29:18] <robert_> what the heck is a filter?
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[11:04:20] <zzzoid> I have Helios and I want Indigo - can I update my installation or do I have to install from scratch?
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[11:07:49] <zzzoid> can i update helios to indigo in the update menu option?
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[13:58:40] <nitind> martianixor: *shrug*, never tried it.
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[14:07:56] <tux_mark_5> hello
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[14:08:29] <tux_mark_5> do c++0x's variadic templates are supposed to work with cdt's codan?
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[14:12:46] <Caleb--> is e4 using XWT ?
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[14:29:41] <rcjsuen> Caleb--: The eclipse 4 sdk doesn't include xwt, no
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[14:35:01] <NexusSeven> hello :) From yesterday I am trying to install pdt and some other software for eclipse 3.7, but some times when I select the Indigo repo after pending eclipse message me that "There is no categorize items"....
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[14:36:11] <NexusSeven> yesterday, the list was loaded, but the download / installation proccess wad died at 49%....
[14:36:27] <NexusSeven> was*
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[15:28:03] <NexusSeven> Please, could someone help me? I have a project to complete with deadline at 5 sept and I have spend 2 days to fix the eclipse...It drive me to madness...
[15:39:32] <rcjsuen> List loads fine for me anyway.
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[16:01:51] <NexusSeven> rcjsuen: my main problem is that the list is loading sometimes, but when I select a packet for installation ( pdt - for php ) the installation proccess stop at 49%
[16:02:43] <NexusSeven> this problem apears only at Indigo repo.
[16:04:55] <rcjsuen> http://www.eclipse.org/external/releases/indigo
[16:06:02] <NexusSeven> lets see :D
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[16:15:31] <NexusSeven> the same issue.... it stops at fetching org.apache.xerces_2.9.0 ....
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[16:46:25] <NexusSeven> FINALLY..... the problem was coming from Java7 jre/jdk ... I wad downgrade to v6 update 25 and everything works fine...
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[17:56:34] <jogla> Hello
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[17:58:14] <jogla> I want to write a plugin for eclipse that allows to compare a certain type of file with the same file in a different version (local history or SCM)
[17:58:40] <jogla> Does anybody know if the compare feature of eclipse allows in easy implementation like that?
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[18:14:35] <rcjsuen> it's not terribly difficult
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[18:22:23] <jogla> But where would I start :)
[18:22:44] <jogla> I'm not terrible stupid, just completely new to the topic ;)
[18:22:55] <jogla> Would I change the history plugin?
[18:23:00] <jogla> Or is there an interface I can implement?
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[18:23:08] <jogla> to extent the plugin
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[18:24:56] <rcjsuen> you would call the compare apis to open a compare editor with your spec'd input (which defines the left and the right)
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[21:38:27] <nathanm32292394> Why can't Valgrind "parse PID from output file
[21:38:40] <nathanm32292394> " when running Memcheck?
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[21:53:33] <ron> wtf is valgrind?
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[22:52:33] <justdanyul> hey everybody, i just installed a laptop with linux, and I got a few issues making eclipse play nicely with it.
[22:53:21] <justdanyul> basically, i downloaded the exact same build of eclipse as i got on my windows machine (just for linux obvious :)) , and the app runs fine
[22:53:37] <justdanyul> but, in windows i had a quite long list of available software sites by default
[22:53:46] <justdanyul> on the linux version its absolutely empty
[22:54:24] <justdanyul> now i'm in the process of installing the plugins i usually use (android , gwt and egit)
[22:54:32] <justdanyul> the only one that wanted to play nicely was egit
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[22:55:33] <justdanyul> so basically, is there anyway i can download a file containing all the software repositories which my windows eclipse came with built in? im guessing the dependencies are failing due to it missing all these
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[23:09:19] <rcjsuen> there's probably only two or three urls
[23:10:16] <justdanyul> at the monent, theres none
[23:10:30] <justdanyul> well, theres egit because i added it
[23:10:40] <justdanyul> but besides that nothing
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[23:13:41] <justdanyul> hmm..
[23:13:51] <justdanyul> right
[23:14:06] <rcjsuen> "Right"?
[23:14:09] <justdanyul> i got a fix for this :P reinstall the laptop with windows lol :P
[23:15:16] <rcjsuen> a very heavy handed solution, but i suppose a solution nonetheless
[23:15:23] <rcjsuen> tho it's possible to see this problem even on windows
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[23:21:10] <justdanyul> to be fair, i never had any problems with eclipse on windows, its always just works. shame, linux is looking really quite nice these days. unfortunately i dont really have time for it, i need to do my work, not spend hours making every single application i install actually work. I was told thats not the case anymore, but installing it on this laptop have proven its exactly where it was last i tried it some years ago. i mean, nothing ju
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[23:21:16] <justdanyul> nothing works :P
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[23:22:18] <justdanyul> anyways, thanks for trying to help though mate
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[23:25:31] <rcjsuen> justdanyul: which version of Eclipse did you get
[23:31:37] <justdanyul> 3.7.1 M20110825-0847
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[23:36:49] <justdanyul> i just tried installing the one from the software repository that comes with the distribution
[23:37:00] <rcjsuen> you'd probably get the same problem
[23:37:05] <justdanyul> 3.7.0 (unfortunately i need a newer version)
[23:37:07] <justdanyul> yes
[23:37:16] <rcjsuen> you should refer to the faq in the channel topic
[23:38:08] <justdanyul> what am i looking for there? :P
[23:38:54] <rcjsuen> the question that describes your problem of having a blank list of update sites
[23:39:16] <justdanyul> in the IRC_FAQ page?
[23:41:09] <rcjsuen> yes
[23:41:58] <justdanyul> i found it :) thanks (im curious though, the one that comes with the distro (the 3.7.0 release) isnt located in /opt
[23:42:50] <rcjsuen> That is just an example.
[23:43:00] <rcjsuen> it's not possible to predict all the locations where a distro will put Eclipse
[23:44:36] <justdanyul> ok that makes sense, so its just a general problem then
[23:46:04] <justdanyul> anyways, thanks for helping :)
[23:46:31] <justdanyul> it solved the issue
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