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[00:00:37] <Jug6ernaut> anyone running eclipse on win7 know how to pin it to toolbar where it doesnt show two when eclipse is open?
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[00:35:21] <rcjsuen> Jug6ernaut: do not follow
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[00:43:25] <rcjsuen> http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/08/24/steve-jobs-resigns-as-apple-ceo/
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[00:54:33] <Jug6ernaut> about time
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[02:31:20] <garrettheel> would anybody know how to use an extension point in an eclipse plugin to be notified of changes to an editor and make modifications to one
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[02:34:46] <rcjsuen> that would depend on whether you are looking for textual changes in the document or whether you're looking for file save events i suppose
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[02:46:37] <garrettheel> rcjsuen: looking for textual changes
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[03:06:37] <neomonkeus> Heyo
[03:07:08] <neomonkeus> I am looking for anyone who can help/point me in the right direction.
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[03:12:37] <rcjsuen> garrettheel: what are you trying to do exactly
[03:12:53] <rcjsuen> neomonkeus: No one can help you...when they don't even know what problem(s) you have.
[03:13:22] <neomonkeus> sorry thought channel was dead
[03:13:22] <neomonkeus> :P
[03:13:36] <neomonkeus> I am having trouble with the outliner in eclipse and the Pydev Plugin not picking up a pypredef
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[03:26:12] <garrettheel> rcjsuen: i'm looking to be notified when a user makes a modification in a document so I can send details of that modification somewhere else. e.g that they deleted  chars 10-20 on line 35
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[03:28:40] <rcjsuen> well, whatever your requirements are, you'll need a document li stener
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[04:24:29] <MajorMcDoom> hello. does anyone know how to access the code folding information of a StyledText?
[04:24:52] <MajorMcDoom> it seems to only provide me with the purely graphical representation of the code. so a collapsed method counts as one line.
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[09:21:26] <eMBee> good afternoon
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[09:33:01] <eMBee> is puzzled by some strange behaviour: on two machines i have checked out the same branch of code from git, yet on one machine running yields different results from the other
[09:33:11] * eMBee is
[09:33:44] <eMBee> as far as i can tell there are no differences, both are on the same commit and there are no uncommited changes
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[09:35:29] <FauxFaux> This doesn't sound very Eclipse related. :)
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[09:55:49] <eMBee> FauxFaux: what else could be the cause?
[09:56:58] <eMBee> i can imagine that some class is not properly rebuilt, but i can't figure out how to force a clean rebuild. (i tried the clean option in the project menu, it doesn't remove the class files
[09:57:22] <FauxFaux> I dunno, is your code class Q { public static void main(String[] args) throws UnknownHostException { System.out.println(InetAddress.getLocalHost().getHostName()); } } //?  That'd exhibit the behaviour you describe.
[09:58:37] <eMBee> no, the behavious of the code on machine A is the same as an older version on machine B
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[09:59:56] <FauxFaux> I hope you know how annoying it is to help people like you.  /me gives up.
[10:01:42] <eMBee> i am sorry, i am new to eclipse, and one of my problems is to make sure that what eclipse is running is really identical apart from the git repository
[10:02:42] <eMBee> can you explain how i force a rebuild of all classes?
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[10:11:23] <eMBee> let me rephrase the problem: for some reason i can make changes to the code, and when i run, eclipse correctly asks me to save the changed file, but the change does not appear in the actually running application. for some reason eclipse is running an old version. where could that version be coming from?
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[10:18:23] <Alberth> search the disk for files from your application with some unique piece of text
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[10:24:40] <eMBee> hmm, i discovered something else: if i remove the classes directory, or delete the *.class files then eclipse complains that the classes are missing, it doesn't rebuild them. also the class files all have an older date
[10:25:14] <eMBee> why is eclipse not rebuilding the classes?
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[10:25:54] <eMBee> i have 'build automatically' checked
[10:26:21] <Alberth> project is not opened?
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[10:33:02] <eMBee> hmm? well, i can edit files in the project, so the project must be open, or?
[10:34:05] <Alberth> how do you know you are talking about the same file?
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[10:36:14] <Alberth> ie it sounds like you have more than one copy of the sources, and edit one, and build from another
[10:38:04] <eMBee> if that were the case why would deleting *.class files lead to an error? the 'other' source should still rebuild those classes
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[10:40:59] <Alberth> access rights?
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[10:45:18] <Alberth> import as library instead of as source project? who knows.
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[10:53:57] <Alberth> I would try to find where my changes go to first (ie they have to be saved somewehere)
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[10:54:58] <eMBee> i have the same files as java source, so even if they are imported as a library should't the source ones take over?
[10:55:19] <eMBee> good point, i'll hunt that down
[10:55:19] * Alberth does not know
[10:56:37] <ron> what's the issue?
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[10:59:06] <eMBee> ron: eclipse doesn't build my source
[10:59:36] <ron> what type of project?
[10:59:42] <FauxFaux> That's literally all the details we have, despite eMBee having been asking this question for two whole hours.
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[11:00:17] <ron> FauxFaux: want a beer?
[11:00:54] <eMBee> it's a java project
[11:01:29] <ron> well, in order to avoid quite a few other questions, please paste a screenshot of your eclipse. ~images
[11:01:36] <ron> ~ping
[11:01:38] <ron> ~hell
[11:01:41] <ron> ~image
[11:01:42] <Arbalest> Please upload your screenshots online and then paste the link back to the channel - http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add - http://www.freeimagehosting.net/ - http://imagebin.ca/upload.php - http://imageshack.us/
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[11:12:35] <eMBee> screenshot is uploading...
[11:12:43] <ron> wow.
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[11:20:25] <eMBee> http://community.gotpike.org/scripts/get.pike?object=32936
[11:20:51] <ron> that's one ugly-ass font.
[11:21:05] <ron> though the screenshot explains a few things.
[11:21:20] <eMBee> please tell
[11:21:44] <eMBee> i am new to eclipse and java
[11:22:42] <ron> okay, first, the project builds fine.
[11:22:57] <ron> what doesn't work for you, is running the application.
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[11:23:22] <eMBee> well, it pretends to build, it doesn't update the .class files (unless they get updated somewhere else
[11:24:03] <ron> eMBee: under the Project menu, is the build automatically checked?
[11:25:51] <eMBee> yes
[11:26:23] <ron> okay, so and why do you think the .class files aren't updated?
[11:27:21] <eMBee> because otherwise i wouldn't get the error you see in the screensho
[11:28:26] <eMBee> i am doing a search on ApplicationLauncherFrame.class files now to see if there are any newer than the edit i made last
[11:29:06] <eMBee> there is nothing, the newest .class file is 2 hours older than the latest edit
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[11:36:05] <eMBee> so what could prevent eclipse from creating new .class files?
[11:43:41] <ron> eMBee: how do you launch your app?
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[11:47:48] <eMBee> using run as java application
[11:49:15] <ron> and that class has a public static void main method?
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[11:54:39] <eMBee> yes
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[11:59:28] <eMBee> ok, now something weird: i played around with the build path, and selected a different location than the usual classes, it asked me if i wanted to clear the built resources, and as a result, the OLD classes came BACK
[11:59:56] <eMBee> now the only thing that could cause old class files to come back is that they may have been commited to the git repository
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[12:04:11] <Nilsor> Hi
[12:04:12] <Nilsor> Guys
[12:04:27] <Nilsor> I want to add an apache tomcat server as server environment
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[12:04:38] <Nilsor> yet eclipse does just list Geronimo server adapters
[12:04:39] <Nilsor> in the list
[12:04:42] <Nilsor> no apache items
[12:09:16] <eMBee> ahhh, i deleted the classes directory, and then selected project->clean... and that somehow forced a rebuild of the class files that now actually do contain mychanges
[12:12:33] <eMBee> and now everything behaves as expected, changes are tracked and classes updated.
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[12:14:03] <eMBee> thanks for all your patience on this
[12:14:34] <eMBee> and i am sorry if i annoyed anyone
[12:16:28] <apavlov> Folks, I have a C++ project which links in certain folders of the WebKit project (which is too big for an Eclipse project). The header files are copied to a certain (originally non-existent) location at build time and are included by source files from there. CDT 8.0 marks occurences of types declared in such headers as unknown (red underline), even though the previous CDT (seemingly, 7.2) used to handle this just fine. All index
[12:20:29] <Nilsor> eclipse + c++ = fail
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[12:33:39] <nitind> Nilsor: Which list?  What version of Eclipse and how did you get it?  And isn't Geronimo from Apache?
[12:33:51] <Nilsor> I fixed it already
[12:33:56] <Nilsor> i had do install "JST Server adapaters"
[12:34:07] <Nilsor> *adapters
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[15:31:49] <vwegert> When writing a CommandProvider, is there a way to accept user input from the console to provide some kind of dialog?
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[15:34:52] <rcjsuen> CommandProvider?
[15:35:36] <vwegert> rcjsuen: o.e.osgi.framework.console.CommandProvider
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[15:38:30] <reya276> Is there anyway to remove a plugin such as aptana and all its parts from eclipse because right now is messing up my config
[15:38:51] <reya276> Meaning at once not one at a time
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[15:50:52] <briandealwis> reya276: use Help > About > Installation Details > Installed Software select the items and Uninstall
[15:52:53] <reya276> nope Uninstall is not available only update
[15:53:26] <rcjsuen> How did you get Aptana to begin with?
[15:53:30] <rcjsuen> Did you install it as a plug-in?
[15:54:30] <reya276> main reason is because I keep getting this error after I close eclipse "Problems occurred while trying to save the state of the workbench.
[15:54:32] <reya276>   Problems occurred during save.
[15:54:34] <reya276>   com/aptana/ide/syncing/core/DefaultSiteConnection
[15:55:03] <reya276> so the Aptana SFTP plugin wont uninstall
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[16:02:48] <reya276> can I manually remove them?
[16:02:58] <reya276> as they wont uninstall
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[16:03:41] <mpiggott> reya276: The only way you will be able to remove them manually is if they are in the dropins folder
[16:04:03] <reya276> dropins folder? you got me
[16:05:33] <mpiggott> reya276: In the eclipse directory there is probably a folder called dropins
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[16:05:52] <mpiggott> reya276: On the Installed Software page you can only remove top level elements of the tree
[16:06:28] <reya276> but what is causing the problem is not being removed so what should I do?
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[16:18:52] <rcjsuen> reya276: How did you get Aptana to begin with?
[16:19:17] <reya276> as a plugin from the aptana website
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[16:19:48] <mixio> Hello !
[16:19:50] <rcjsuen> Certainly sounds weird then if you installed it as a plug-in.
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[16:19:56] <reya276> I fixed it, I just went and removed all aptana folders and .jar files from the plugin directory and it fixed the issue
[16:19:59] <reya276> thanks
[16:20:02] <mixio> Im new to Eclipse indigo ide
[16:20:14] <mixio> and i cant find something really useful
[16:20:32] <mixio> i need to declare regions of code and fold them so i dont see it
[16:20:47] <mixio> and destroy my lovely eyes :)
[16:21:08] <mixio> in visual studio you do something like #region #endregion
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[16:21:44] <briandealwis> mixio: no such luck in Java
[16:21:56] <mixio> :(
[16:22:04] <mixio> i cant stand it
[16:22:43] <rcjsuen> You'd have to look for a plug-in or something.
[16:23:11] <briandealwis> mixio: Eclipse provides an API for doing folding.  Check the Eclipse Marketplace and see if someone else has written a custom folding implementation.  Or you could hack up your own folding plugin
[16:34:18] <mixio> :(
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[16:45:53] <bloony> Im trying to follow some python code using ctrl+click, but Im trying to follow a classname.run() but it gets 180 results and complain.. are there any plugins that is able to semi-compile the code to be able to find the dynamic object type?
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[17:03:23] <briandealwis> bloony: have you tried setting a breakpoint and running the code?
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[17:06:33] <bloony> briandealwis: the code runs through a big testing bed so its kinda difficult to do it that way.. I know off that though.. Im after a plugin that will be able to find the right class for me..
[17:07:39] <briandealwis> bloony: I only suggested it as I once wasted an hour trying to figure out a similar issue that was solved by just running the code; I was in so deep that the idea hadn't occurred to me :-/
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[17:08:49] <bloony> briandealwis: ah hehe yes.. thanks anyways :)
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[17:19:16] <Alberth> bloony: in general, what you want cannot be done with Python, the language is too dynamic for such static analysis. You could add a 'print type(classname)' just above it, and get the exact type at run-time
[17:19:39] <Alberth> (and even comment classname.run() out to reduce output)
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[17:23:27] <bloony> hmm right
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[17:38:36] <kaje> Is the windows SDK package plus the delta package the same as the linux SDK package plus the delta pack? Or to put it another way. If I have developers working in OSX, Windows, and Linux, do I need to create three separate platform targets?
[17:41:21] <nitind> Yes.
[17:41:32] <kaje> hehe, to which question?
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[18:50:52] <faffi> what maven plugin do you guys use for OSGi bundle management?
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[19:07:55] <briandealwis> faffi: I use Tycho ? it understands PDE-based files.  The maven-bundle-plugin works well too.
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[19:29:42] <dbolser> hi
[19:30:14] <dbolser> just tried to install egit, but eclipse semed to crash
[19:30:34] <ron> seemed? so it almost crashed but didn't?
[19:30:54] <dbolser> hehe, it dissapeared in a flash, and I've just restarted
[19:31:05] <abhatnag> dbolser: OS?
[19:31:13] <dbolser> ubuntu 11.04
[19:31:28] <dbolser> Version: 3.5.2
[19:31:42] <ron> okay
[19:31:58] <ron> a. my condolences.
[19:32:01] <abhatnag> dbolser: run eclipse from terminal and look for fatal errors in log
[19:32:06] <ron> no need.
[19:32:09] <ron> really.
[19:32:20] <ron> I'm not sure egit even supports 3.5 anymore.
[19:32:20] <abhatnag> ron, lol what?
[19:32:23] <ron> download indigo.
[19:32:36] <ron> please. don't use ubuntu's repos.
[19:32:38] <dbolser> sigh
[19:32:50] <dbolser> ron: is there an eclipse repo?
[19:33:00] <ron> no idea. shouldn't matter.
[19:33:12] <dbolser> ron: only matters for convenience
[19:33:19] <ron> there's very little advantage to installing from a repo.
[19:33:21] <ron> very little.
[19:33:22] <rcjsuen> yes I don't think we support 3.5.x
[19:33:39] <dbolser> ron: or can I update to indigo within galeleo?
[19:33:46] <nbf> klkk
[19:33:55] <dbolser> ron: I disagree, but I get the feeling you've made your mind up
[19:34:23] <ron> dbolser: no, no. I don't have anything against repos. I'm specifically talking about eclipse.
[19:34:30] <dbolser> rcjsuen: ic, can you automatically detect teh version like a package manager would?
[19:34:41] <rcjsuen> not sure I follow
[19:34:41] <dbolser> ron: ah, ok
[19:34:55] <ron> as for upgrading from galileo to indigo... err.. not sure that's something worth the effort.
[19:35:01] <dbolser> rcjsuen: I just crashed eclipse by installing egit in a version not supported by egit
[19:35:04] <dbolser> ron: ok
[19:35:18] <ron> next thing you'd tell me you're using Unity :p
[19:35:27] <dbolser> hahahahah
[19:35:45] <dbolser> wow, I actually loled
[19:35:56] <ron> :)
[19:35:58] <rcjsuen> There is not enough information to indicate whether this is even related to EGit or not.
[19:36:23] <dbolser> rcjsuen: it's ok, I'll update and try again
[19:36:54] <ron> dbolser: seriously though, I'm all for the advantages of using repos to install software. there's really very little point to it when it comes to eclipse, and it certainly doesn't justify using a version from so long ago.
[19:36:56] <rcjsuen> But yes, OSGi will enforce versioning if constraints have been defined.
[19:37:17] <dbolser> ron: ic... but now I'm baffled about what to dl
[19:37:30] <ron> depends on what you want to use eclipse for.
[19:37:34] <abhatnag> dbolser: 13:31
[19:37:44] <dbolser> I'm trying to get my head round bioperl, and I thought eclipse may help (via epic)
[19:37:54] <dbolser> bioperl is in github, so I thought I'd add egit
[19:38:16] <ron> perl? isn't perl a programming language of 80-year-old IT professionals?
[19:38:21] * ron hides
[19:38:30] <ron> do you need it only for perl?
[19:38:33] <dbolser> abhatnag: right, sorry for not replying, there were no errors in the term
[19:38:50] <dbolser> abhatnag: oh wait, wrong term
[19:38:59] <dbolser> ron: yeah
[19:39:27] <dbolser> abhatnag: https://gist.github.com/88a4e53b88875ac81b4a
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[19:39:41] <dbolser> perl programmers have heard all the jokes (were old ;-)
[19:39:50] <ron> then I guess you should get the eclipse classic package.
[19:39:59] <dbolser> ty
[19:40:03] <abhatnag> lol, ron is like an epic troll on here
[19:40:14] <ron> abhatnag: you *love* me.
[19:40:32] <dbolser> abhatnag: do you mean EPIC?
[19:40:32] <ron> abhatnag: I'm a helping troll, and you know it.
[19:40:35] <abhatnag> ron, you have me laughing, that's for sure
[19:41:03] <ron> besides, I really only mock PHP users. don't mind other programming languages really.
[19:41:20] <ron> and as long as rcjsuen likes me, I'm comfortable.
[19:42:54] <dbolser> 6 mins to download...
[19:43:12] <ron> damn.. I'm excited.
[19:43:24] <ron> dbolser: you _don't_ use unity, right? :p
[19:43:36] <dbolser> I used it for about 30 seconds
[19:43:40] <ron> :)
[19:43:41] <nitind> ron: Upgrading from Galileo to Indigo is very much worth it.  If only because I'm ready to start ignoring bugs filed against anything earlier than Helios.
[19:44:04] <ron> nitind: I was suggesting a fresh install rather than an actual upgrade.
[19:44:24] <ron> I think the upgrade process would be a bit of a pain.
[19:44:32] <ron> could be mistaken though. never tried it.
[19:45:02] <dbolser> I hit 'software update' but there was nothing
[19:45:10] <ron> you need to add the update site.
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[19:45:32] <ron> I think updates of major eclipse version has some room for improvement.
[19:45:40] <mrsweet> hello
[19:46:04] <ron> and I think that on that lovely note, it's time to go and eat dinner.
[19:46:22] <ron> dbolser: good luck with your perl adventure.
[19:46:31] <mrsweet> okay i had mine already ;)
[19:46:49] <mrsweet> enjoy your meal
[19:47:20] <dbolser> ron: ty
[19:48:25] <mrsweet> hey anybody familiar with swt and alpha-channel images?
[19:49:33] <mrsweet> struggling to get it to render the alpha-channel correctly in an swt-app to no avail...
[19:50:14] <mrsweet> is there anybody here who's tried that?
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[19:51:29] <mrsweet> nobody?
[19:51:38] <rcjsuen> Are you just speaking about transparency?
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[19:51:59] <saedelaere> hi
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[19:52:27] <mrsweet> yes i need to render some alpha-transparent png-image on a component(canvas etc.) or something
[19:52:39] * dbolser installs EPIC
[19:52:57] <rcjsuen> I'm pretty sure gif transparency is supported anyway. At least, for controls, I don't know about having them drawn manually.
[19:52:57] <mrsweet> or just as a background on a shell
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[19:53:19] <saedelaere> using eclipse 3.7. I am no longer asked by eclipse which workspace to use on startup. the option "prompt for workspace on startup" is ticked.
[19:53:30] <dbolser> the egit install guide is somewhat lacking
[19:53:42] <mrsweet> well color-transparency works but i need it to honor the alpha-channel
[19:53:55] <saedelaere> this is really annoying because in this case eclipse always creates a folder workspace in my home folder
[19:54:02] <rcjsuen> dbolser: Install guide?
[19:54:09] <fredpyo> hi, does anyone know where I can get some help with mylyn+trac integration? Googling for "eclipse mylyn trac bug"... is useless...
[19:54:17] <mrsweet> it is a png-img and converting to gif or non-alpha is no option
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[19:54:26] <dbolser> rcjsuen: right
[19:54:45] <dbolser> rcjsuen: http://eclipse.org/egit/download/
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[19:54:53] <rcjsuen> oh that page
[19:55:06] <rcjsuen> well how did you install EPIC
[19:55:12] <dbolser> rcjsuen: OK, I get where to put that url, but what things do I want?
[19:55:20] <rcjsuen> presumably you want EGit
[19:55:24] <dbolser> (there are several to chose from, unlike EPIC)
[19:55:43] <dbolser> rcjsuen: yeah, but should I grab the github stuff, and when I do there are dependency issues...
[19:55:44] <rcjsuen> and if oyu don't know what the other stuff are, then don't click them
[19:55:57] <dbolser> I guess I'm as noob as the eclipse users come, but still...
[19:56:10] <rcjsuen> I don't see Github as an option for me
[19:56:16] <mrsweet> rcjsuen: so you do not know about alpha-channell as well, tried googling but nothing worth trying
[19:56:19] <dbolser> rcjsuen: that's prolly good advice
[19:57:06] <dbolser> rcjsuen: I see 'Eclipse EGit Mylyn GitHub Feature'
[19:57:19] <dbolser> as a sensitive noob, this confuses me
[19:57:27] <rcjsuen> I don't see that
[19:57:39] <mrsweet> well no swt-devs here, and i hoped... pity...
[19:57:48] <rcjsuen> I see EGit Mylyn though
[19:57:57] <dbolser> plausible deniability eh ;-)
[19:58:01] <rcjsuen> but the point still stands
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[19:58:18] <nbf> you can draw with alpha by enabling it in a GC
[19:58:23] <dbolser> rcjsuen: what if I think I know what it may be ... should I click then?
[19:58:31] <dbolser> I think some docs would be nice
[19:58:35] <nbf> I think it may be platform dependent but any modern platform should support it
[19:58:41] <rcjsuen> That would be your perogative.
[19:58:50] <mrsweet> any examples?
[19:58:55] <rcjsuen> If you think the install page needs work, please open a bug then.
[19:59:02] <dbolser> ty
[19:59:07] <mrsweet> nbf: did not find anything
[19:59:28] <mrsweet> well i am fairly new to swt-development
[19:59:56] <rcjsuen> That would make the entire image look transparent
[20:00:04] <nbf> yeah I just looked at it
[20:00:05] <rcjsuen> assuming that is what mrsweet wanted, I may have misinterpreted the end goal
[20:00:06] <mrsweet> i thought it might be possible but after some messing around ended up with no sucess
[20:00:36] <nbf> you create a canvas paint listener and then use GC.drawImage to draw your image
[20:00:43] <nbf> you might need to enable advanced
[20:01:11] <mrsweet> nbf: okay and does this honor the alpha-channel?
[20:01:13] <rcjsuen> probably need to
[20:01:46] <nbf> I believe it should use the alpha channel values if they're present
[20:01:54] <nbf> to blend
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[20:02:51] <saedelaere> after renaming my config directory from .eclipse to .eclipse_old i've been prompted again on startup for the workspace
[20:03:04] <saedelaere> don't understand this
[20:03:23] <mrsweet> nbf: okay thank you! will try this out...
[20:03:48] <dbolser> rcjsuen: should I log this bug against the eclipse website or the EGit component?
[20:03:53] <mrsweet> will be back in some minutes ;)
[20:03:54] <dbolser> I guess the former
[20:03:57] <rcjsuen> dbolser: Against EGit/Doc
[20:04:04] <dbolser> ah, ok
[20:04:08] <rcjsuen> oh they don't have a doc
[20:04:11] <rcjsuen> well just EGit/Core then
[20:04:16] <dbolser> ++
[20:04:19] <rcjsuen> every project maintains their own website (for the most part)
[20:04:34] <rcjsuen> so usu you just open a bug against that project (instead of the general Eclipse)
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[20:06:17] <Jug6ernaut> anyone know how to properly pin eclipse to the toolbar in win7?
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[20:13:32] <mrsweet> nbf: thank you very much, works like a charm for canvas
[20:14:02] <cereal_> Anyone know why I no longer have a build project option when I right click a project that has an ant build script set?  It used to be available unless I'm going crazy :(
[20:14:18] <mrsweet> now i need to find out how to achieve this for a shell
[20:14:38] <rcjsuen> cereal_: You probably have 'Build Automatically' set
[20:14:48] <cereal_> hmmm your probably right!
[20:15:17] <mrsweet> or only paint the canvas stuff, while leaving out the rest of the shell ;)
[20:15:38] <dbolser> rcjsuen: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=355887
[20:15:45] <rcjsuen> dbolser: Thank you.
[20:16:01] <cereal_> where is the build automatically setting in the preferences? I am failing at thsi!
[20:16:08] <dbolser> np, complaining is the easy part!
[20:16:15] <mrsweet> try searcching
[20:16:36] <mrsweet> @searching in the box top left
[20:16:48] <mrsweet> works for me ;)
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[20:16:58] <cereal_> what did you search for?
[20:17:09] <mrsweet> build
[20:17:18] <cereal_> ooh i was doing compile
[20:17:43] <mrsweet> i like that nifty search bos in the prefs a lot
[20:17:50] <mrsweet> *box
[20:17:50] <cereal_> agreed!
[20:17:52] <ryzngard> I'm having trouble with autocomplete in eclipse. There are no problems being reported and the project builds fine using the ant build script. The Build path is set to ./src in the project which contains all of the source files. Any ideas?
[20:18:01] <cereal_> lol I should have searched for the proper name :)
[20:18:07] <kaje> Is the windows SDK package plus the delta package the same as the linux SDK package plus the delta pack? Or to put it another way. If I have developers working in OSX, Windows, and Linux, can I have them use the same platform target as long as the delta pack is installed?
[20:18:09] <cereal_> mrsweet & rcjsuen thanks!
[20:18:32] <mrsweet> you're welcome
[20:19:02] <cereal_> the only other issue I have is constantly classes cannot be found in my projects even though they are in the same package in my project :(  refreshing sometimes works and sometimes it wont
[20:19:14] <cereal_> is this just something funky that I'll have to live with?
[20:19:31] <mrsweet> dunno sry
[20:19:56] <mrsweet> i am only having trouble when working with jars
[20:20:06] <cereal_> project refershing, restarting have mixed results on fixing the issue
[20:20:06] <ryzngard> cereal_: I had that problem. Making sure your build path is correct fixed it
[20:20:06] <mrsweet> packages seem to work well
[20:20:37] <dbolser> hrm.. another bug https://gist.github.com/357a65838bda2da8a045
[20:20:50] <cereal_> ryzngard, hrm? seems to be properly setup
[20:21:03] <dbolser> Problem accessing /help/advanced/help.jsp. Reason:     Unable to compile class for JSP
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[20:21:26] <cereal_> my source folder is setup to do an include all
[20:21:33] <dbolser> I clicked on 'Team support' on the Welcome -> Overview page and got that error
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[20:21:52] <dbolser> hmm.. works second time round
[20:21:52] <mrsweet> anyone an idea how to accomplisch taht alpha-rendering for a shell?
[20:22:01] <mrsweet> *accomplish
[20:22:27] <mrsweet> argh i am typing stuff today... ;-)
[20:22:58] <mrsweet> shell seems to ignore it
[20:22:59] <cereal_> huh, changing the order in my build path fixed it
[20:23:01] <cereal_> not sure why...
[20:23:04] <mrsweet> canvas works
[20:24:04] <mrsweet> strange...
[20:24:45] <nbf> make a shell with a FillLayout and place a canvas in it
[20:25:37] <mrsweet> got it to work now
[20:26:05] <mrsweet> had a typo in there
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[20:26:40] <mrsweet> now it renders the image with its respective alpha but the shell itself is opaque...
[20:27:58] <mrsweet> dunno if it is possible to get it transparent where the images alpha is fully-transparent
[20:28:30] <mrsweet> that'll be my ultimate goal
[20:28:34] <nbf> you're probably going to need to get the native window handle
[20:28:43] <nbf> and do it in c/c++ via JNI
[20:28:49] <dbolser> so I've found my repo using 'Import' -> 'Git', should I use hte new projects wizard?
[20:28:50] <mrsweet> that is not an option
[20:29:09] <mrsweet> then i'll have to go away from swt/java
[20:29:24] <nbf> well it's basically impossible otherwise... good luck ;)
[20:29:40] <mrsweet> seems like that for me...
[20:30:16] <mrsweet> what i was trying to achieve is to have some sort of not opaque shell render an alpah-channel-image...
[20:30:31] <mrsweet> *alpha
[20:30:43] <mrsweet> in pure swt+java
[20:31:04] <mrsweet> no native call involved
[20:31:17] <mrsweet> seems to be impossible... ;)
[20:32:28] <nbf> this functionality isn't really possible without specific support from the windowing system
[20:32:33] <mrsweet> hmm, does stuff like SWT.NO_BACKGROUND affect child-componenets?
[20:32:35] <nbf> even then, it's usually a hack
[20:33:15] <mrsweet> nbf: seems like that, what a pity i really liked swt otherwise...
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[20:35:24] <dbolser> Is the only difference between 'Use the New Projects wizard' and 'Import as General Project' the import settings dialogues ?
[20:35:24] <vectrum> hello :)
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[20:36:45] <nbf> SWT is prety cool, I've gone the native route before it wasn't that bad
[20:36:51] <vectrum> i'm eclipse noob and i have a question on a very basic feature of eclipse cdt
[20:38:10] <dbolser> vectrum: you should just ask
[20:38:16] <nbf> I ended up writing my own SWT implementation because I wanted something cooler than the existing ones ;)
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[20:38:41] <vectrum> thanx, do i need to create a project for every .c or .cpp file?
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[20:39:24] <rcjsuen> dbolser: how the project will be generated/defined by eclipse will differ
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[20:39:47] <dbolser> rcjsuen: I picked the wizard, then picked perl project (didn't realize there would be further choices)
[20:39:49] <rcjsuen> vectrum: that would make a lot of projects, no
[20:40:00] <dbolser> I'm reading, but there is a lot to cover ;-)
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[20:40:37] <gluxon> vectrum: No?
[20:40:45] <mrsweet> nbf: well i'd like to avoid writing my own toolkit if possible :-p
[20:41:14] <nbf> yeah I don't recommend it unless you have the time and very specific goals :)
[20:41:20] <dbolser> hrm... my project is empty
[20:41:29] <nbf> it's a lot of manual labor but you learn SWT pretty well
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[20:42:10] <mrsweet> nbf: the goals are specific but i'd like to avoid it though ;)
[20:42:18] <vectrum> i can't keep .c files in a project dir
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[20:43:52] <mrsweet> and time is as always some kind of a problem ya know... ;-)
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[20:44:30] <mrsweet> well if I am honest it is not for the specific thing i was trying to get but... 8-)
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[21:03:05] <mrsweet> argh, just realized i have a noob-problem: how do i set the swt-apidoc to appear on a project with swt.jar in its buildpath?
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[21:03:25] <mrsweet> never really  cared about ;)
[21:03:41] <mrsweet> was using online documentation
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[21:03:53] <mrsweet> but realized it'd be really nice
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[21:04:31] <mrsweet> hint: it is a plain java-project no rcp#
[21:04:46] <mrsweet> anyone?
[21:06:38] <mrsweet> do not see an easy way to set it so it appears at autocompletion as popup for available swt-methods....
[21:06:57] <mrsweet> or maybe i should go to sleep soon ;-)
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[21:08:08] <mrsweet> well time for good old katie melua to sing me into sleep...
[21:08:29] <mrsweet> piece-by-piece...
[21:08:35] <mrsweet> lol
[21:11:47] <nbf> good night mrsweet, I'll call mrquick
[21:12:13] <briandealwis> mrsweet: assuming you're pulling this in as a library on a normal project, open the project properties, select Java Build Path > Libraries, find the SWT jar, expand it and edit the "javadoc location"
[21:13:28] <mrsweet> nbf: nighty-night & brian: ah thanx will try that tomorrow, missed out on that :-)
[21:14:13] <mrsweet> good night folks
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[21:33:22] <abaratican> I get a stack overflow and "parseSdkContent failed" any time I open eclipse with the android ADT... if I proceed and try to open the android sdk and avd manager after that happens, using eclipse's menu, it says the location for the sdk is not specified.  However, the location is indeed specified.
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[21:52:22] <nitind> abaratican: You'll have to check with the ADT folks for that.
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[22:04:14] <Saturn_> Hello
[22:04:33] <Saturn_> Please help me with installing Eclipse Indigo on Fedora 15
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[22:05:05] <everythingWorks> how do i import all settings from one workspace to another?
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[22:06:53] <Saturn_> Does anyone run Fedora 15 here?
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[22:07:23] <Saturn_> no fedora 15 users?
[22:08:03] <mpiggott> Saturn_: eclipse.org -> Download -> Unzip -> Run
[22:08:19] <Saturn_> the step i have problem wit his run
[22:08:21] <rcjsuen> Saturn_: It's better to describe your problem beyond "please help me with installing"
[22:08:27] <Saturn_> i know
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[22:08:38] <Saturn_> i am unpacking the tar.gz archive
[22:08:44] <rcjsuen> i see...
[22:08:52] <Saturn_> and here comes the intersting thing
[22:08:58] <nitind> everythingWorks: Use the Export Preferences wizard to export them from one and then the corresponding Import wizard on the other workspace.
[22:09:04] <Saturn_> ./eclipse in the direcotry where its installed runs Indigo
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[22:09:23] <Saturn_> but command eclipse installs eclipse-platform Helios instead of Indigo
[22:09:37] <Saturn_> and i cant place a shortcut to Indigo
[22:09:39] <nitind> installs?  command eclipse?  what?
[22:09:43] <rcjsuen> command eclipse?
[22:09:48] <Saturn_> like
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[22:09:52] <Saturn_> cd /opt/eclipse
[22:09:54] <Saturn_> eclipse
[22:10:01] <mpiggott> He probably has Eclipse exported on his path already elsewhere
[22:10:09] <rcjsuen> sounds ilke it
[22:10:19] <Saturn_> no command eclipse would you like to install eclipse-platform to provide command eclipse [y/n]
[22:10:20] <rcjsuen> It's possible Eclipse comes with F15 by default I suppose.
[22:10:26] <Saturn_> Helios?
[22:10:29] <mpiggott> I forget which but ~/.bash_profile or something
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[22:10:50] <rcjsuen> You'd have to check with #eclipse-linux. Some of the Fedora pacckagesr hang out there.
[22:11:14] <Saturn_> ok thx
[22:11:20] <rcjsuen> I would expect a shortcut to just take a direct path so I'm quite surprised telling it to go /opt/eclipse/eclipse doesn't work.
[22:11:20] <Saturn_> goodbye
[22:11:32] <rcjsuen> but right now it's not clear what is "cant place a shortcut to Indigo"
[22:11:41] <Saturn_> Thanks for your time
[22:12:19] <Saturn_> shortcut=launcher in the GNOME3 sidebar
[22:12:36] <Saturn_> Thanks for help Goodbye
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[22:14:57] <everythingWorks> where do i find this "export preferences" wizart
[22:14:57] <rcjsuen> And of course no surprise Saturn_ hasn't joined #eclipse-linux.
[22:15:10] <rcjsuen> same place as all those other export wizards
[22:16:06] <everythingWorks> ah
[22:16:08] <everythingWorks> sure.. ;)
[22:16:17] <everythingWorks> thanks
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[22:17:08] <rcjsuen> 'File > Export...'
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[22:46:18] <schwinn434> hello
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[23:08:52] <johnnycr> hey all, I'm pretty new to Java and I'm trying to learn how to have a program read an XML RSS page, search for .mp3 file URLs, and then save those URLs as different strings.  Can someone tell me what to look for or where I can find some documentation on that?
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[23:09:28] <ron> johnnycr: not really the right channel to ask that. you're looking for ##java
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[23:11:01] <johnnycr> ron: alright thanks
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[23:42:47] <Matth1a3> I am new to git, and have loaded the git plugin into my eclipse 3.7 for C++ development. In my C++ perspective, how do I load the git repository tab into the bottom area (like next to console)?
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[23:46:54] <linxeh> Matth1a3: you can do window -> open view -> other
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[23:48:52] <Matth1a3> linxeh: perfect, thank you
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