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[02:23:51] <WillPittenger> I have a Java app project I am attempting to organize.  The project has branched into 1.0 (which predates use of Eclipse or my involvement), 2.0, and Trunk.  Unfortunately, the system is more complicated than that.  You see, the app displays animations (like PowerPoint).  I added a record mode where it outputs each frame to an SVG file and lets the user record audio for that frame.  Now for...
[02:23:53] <WillPittenger> ...how that affects Eclipse.  I also added a webpage that plays back those recorded animations on any HTML5 browser with SVG support.  I would like to know the best way to organize this using a single workspace.  Any ideas?
[02:24:31] <WillPittenger> The remote port (the website) also has a 2.0 and trunk version.
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[02:53:25] <WillPittenger> One thing I didn't mention earlier: All 6 branches need to go into the same SVN repository.
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[07:13:12] <jameslord> hi all
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[08:24:04] <eMBee> rcjsuen_: screenshot for the problem of sharing a project with an existing git repo: http://community.gotpike.org/scripts/get.pike?object=32568
[08:24:41] <eMBee> i can only choose a repo relative to the workspace, but following egit advice the git repo lives elsewhere
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[08:34:04] <eMBee> also those 3 lines with ./.git as choice look a bit odd...
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[08:44:15] <scrts2> how come the eclipse can't handle makefile correctly if I add headers paths (which are easily found by pressing ctrl+mouse1 on the file.h link), but the compiler drops errors?
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[08:56:39] <jameslord> anybody here have experience in eclipse plugin development?
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[08:58:46] <ron> jameslord: just ask your question, hope to get a reply :)
[08:59:32] <jameslord> how to install pde from eclipse market?
[09:00:08] <ron> you don't really need eclipse market for that.
[09:00:10] <jameslord> ron i searched in eclipse market and cannot find jdt and pde
[09:00:29] <ron> which eclipse package do you have?
[09:00:44] <jameslord> ron yes, i can download a get for get pde distribution, but now i am using pdt, i want pde
[09:01:07] <jameslord> jameslord not to download a new distribution, and wanna install pde
[09:01:21] <jameslord> ron only cdt
[09:01:38] <ron> which version?
[09:01:45] <ron> helios? indigo?
[09:01:49] <jameslord> indigo
[09:02:08] <ron> go to help->install new software
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[09:08:13] <jameslord> ron should i input update site?
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[09:24:23] <GeorgeJ> Would there be any way having a single eclipse workspace spanning across multiple monitors?
[09:25:22] <GeorgeJ> Oh nvm, found "new window"
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[10:10:59] <WillPittenger> I have a Java app project I am attempting to organize.  The project has branched into 1.0 (which predates use of Eclipse or my involvement), 2.0, and Trunk.  Unfortunately, the system is more complicated than that.  You see, the app displays animations (like PowerPoint).  I added a record mode where it outputs each frame to an SVG file and lets the user record audio for that frame.  Now for...
[10:11:01] <WillPittenger> ...how that affects Eclipse.  I also added a webpage that plays back those recorded animations on any HTML5 browser with SVG support.  I would like to know the best way to organize this using a single workspace.  Any ideas?  The remote port (the website) also has a 2.0 and trunk version.  Also, all 6 branches need to go into the same SVN repository.
[10:11:19] <ron> jameslord: sorry, I was called to a meeting. did you manage to install PDE and JDT?
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[10:21:59] <phatypus> Hello, I'm using a clean install of Eclipse Java EE IDE for Web Developers (Helios Service Release 1).  When I create an XML file, I'd like to be able to format it (correct indentation etc.) but the Source > Format (or SHIFT+CTRL+F) options are not available when I have the XML file selected -- can someone advise how I enable XML formatting?
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[10:49:15] <ron> phatypus: do you have it selected or opened in an editor?
[10:54:00] <phatypus> i've tried 3 ways. opened in the text editor, opened in the xml editor, and closed -- option is not available in all 3
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[10:59:17] <AtKaaZ> why would eclipse show error on this? http://pastebin.com/9WTZ1Y0y
[10:59:36] <ron> phatypus: when you open it in the xml editor, do you see the grid editor or the text editor?
[11:00:27] <ron> AtKaaZ: because there's no assertTrue method?
[11:00:39] <AtKaaZ> here http://pastebin.com/mXaYXa3i you can see the AssertJUnit class
[11:01:29] <ron> right, what does that have to do with anything?
[11:01:34] <AtKaaZ> ok here http://pastebin.com/p0BDgu5L you can see the method does exist, the first line works where qualifing it with class name AssertJUnit.assertTrue(bool)
[11:01:54] <ron> that's how you write code in Java.
[11:01:56] <AtKaaZ> line 14 is ok, no errors; but line 15 compile error; what am I missing?
[11:02:41] <ron> class NewTest has no assertTrue(boolean) method. what's the problem?
[11:02:54] <AtKaaZ> why doesn't it use it from the import?
[11:03:00] <AtKaaZ> import org.testng.AssertJUnit.*;
[11:03:09] <ron> dude, Java isn't C/C++.
[11:03:18] <ron> importing does virtually nothing.
[11:03:22] <AtKaaZ> well it works for junit I mean
[11:03:58] <ron> the compiler can't guess where assertTrue(boolean) is. that's why line 14 works, and line 15 doesn't work.
[11:04:38] <AtKaaZ> oh i see you mean I need to add static after the import keyword
[11:05:05] <AtKaaZ> thanks, good talk
[11:05:13] <AtKaaZ> ;)
[11:05:41] <AtKaaZ> would've been a pain to prepend AssertJUnit. on every call :/
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[11:06:16] <ron> don't. dont use static import. that's just... oh.. do what you want.
[11:08:11] <AtKaaZ> it is quite odd that I have to add it manually, I mean, not even a quick fix sugestion and all
[11:09:09] <AtKaaZ> but I see for junit it is added automagically, not for testng though, oh well
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[11:14:36] <phatypus> ron: its the grid version of the xml editor
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[11:17:04] <ron> phatypus: great. look in bottom, you have a design tab, do you see it?
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[11:21:39] <phatypus> ron: heh, that was easy
[11:21:42] <phatypus> :)
[11:21:46] <phatypus> thank you
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[11:25:15] <_WOPR_> I would like to deploy a license file with my Eclipse RCP client. The file should contain the purchased plugins. Only those plugins should be loaded when the client starts. I think I have to implement a custom launcher. Something like the launcher in the PDE, which launches a product and only starts the plugins which were selected in the wizard. I have no idea where to start and how to write a custom launcher. Support appreciated!
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[11:55:37] <adioe3> Hello fine people. Small question: would eclipse benefit from a 64bit distro/kernel? I.e. would some stuff be faster such as DLTK indexing?
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[12:16:13] <drd20> Occasionally when I create a new class in eclipse it locks with the class dialog box still visible (I've only seen this issue on Windows)?
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[13:19:18] <rcjsuen_> eMBee: That wizard doesn't look familiar. I think my wizard page is different
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[13:28:04] <rubin110> I want to get eclipse working under Debian Sid for general web development, is there a good tutorial on how to install stuff and get started?
[13:28:30] <rubin110> I tried apt-get installing eclipse and then installed a bunch of things through the built in install manager, but they seem to be missing from the application.
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[13:57:35] <jorn> heyho, is anyone in here who has issues with aptana and egit?
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[13:58:29] <jorn> i found this post: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6970595/eclipse-plugin-aptana-errors-on-mac-osx-lion suggesting that aptana and egit are incompatible
[13:58:49] <jorn> is there maybe a way for me to work around this?
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[14:02:09] <rcjsuen_> Maybe try asking in the Aptana forums.
[14:02:15] <rcjsuen_> Personally I do not see how EGit is related here.
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[14:02:22] <rcjsuen> Although Aptana does have its own Git tooling iirc
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[14:53:42] <vivek_>  my Web application works fine with eclipse & tomcat6.0.29, But when I make a WAR file and install in different tomcat6.0.29 application dose not work
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[14:58:09] <ron> vivek_: ok.
[14:58:30] <timotei> :))
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[15:02:39] <vivek_>  my Web application works fine with eclipse & tomcat6.0.29, But when I make a WAR file and install in different tomcat6.0.29 application dose not work
[15:02:50] * ron facepalms
[15:03:00] <timotei> vivek_: We've read that already. :P
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[15:07:00] <nitind> Shame he didn't try to, at all, clarify "doesn't work".
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[15:07:40] * ron nods
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[15:23:23] <eMBee> rcjsuen: this is what i get when i select team -> share project ... and then select git
[15:23:50] <rcjsuen> mine isn't like that
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[15:27:46] <amores> I don't know why but I can't close search window with Escape key. same as "file search" window ect.
[15:28:05] <ron> which os?
[15:31:05] <amores> windows 7
[15:31:09] <amores> it depends on it?
[15:31:24] <ron> it could.
[15:31:29] <ron> works fine for me, though.
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[15:31:41] <rcjsuen> works for me, but i'm on XP
[15:31:55] <timotei> amores: the typical solution: eclipse restart? windows restart?
[15:31:59] <timotei> It may be something temporary :)
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[15:32:18] <timotei> amores: PS: does the Escape key even work? :P
[15:32:19] <amores> arg... I can't do it now ;)
[15:32:23] <rcjsuen> I would at least expect it to affect all dialogs instead of just one.
[15:32:23] <timotei> lol
[15:32:24] <ron> or maybe you *think* you tap the Esc key but you're too drunk to notice something else :p
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[15:32:26] <amores> i'm in the middle of something big
[15:32:40] <timotei> Well... then use it as it works lol
[15:32:46] <timotei> :P
[15:32:59] <timotei> My head hurts... but I'm too lazy to take medicine...
[15:33:00] <amores> ron: I'm sober, but you're close - my new notebook keybord sucks
[15:33:08] <ron> :)
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[15:33:10] <timotei> What notebook?:P
[15:33:29] <amores> hp 625
[15:33:45] <timotei> ah. hp's...
[15:33:59] <amores> http://image.dhgate.com/upload/spider/b/354/002/b_ae36qe002354_0.jpg
[15:34:12] <mpiggott> Maybe the window doesn't hav efocus
[15:34:40] <amores> look at this "media panel" on the left of tab, control etc
[15:34:56] <amores> what a sh*t
[15:35:30] <amores> for someone who is working with only keyboard (almost) it's pain in the ass
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[15:54:24] <eMBee> rcjsuen: which version of eclipse/egit do you have?
[15:54:37] <rcjsuen> eMBee: My EGit is from two yesterday
[15:54:49] <rcjsuen> never mind, it's from today :)
[15:55:17] <eMBee> heh, i got 0.11.1
[15:55:33] <rcjsuen> Think that's from March/April
[15:56:20] <eMBee> so basically, it's a bug that's been fixed in the developer version
[15:57:21] <rcjsuen> Well, I'm just saying my wizard looks different. That doesn't necessarily mean what you want is in this new wizard.
[15:57:38] <rcjsuen> 1.0 came out in late June.
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[15:58:53] <eMBee> odd
[16:00:02] <lisak> if I have  a statement like this  " EntitiesProvider.getEntities(); "
[16:00:17] <eMBee> i got this from the available software sites in the eclipse install software menu
[16:00:18] <lisak> any idea how to "generate"  Map<String, Entity> hashMap = EntitiesProvider.getEntities();
[16:01:00] <lisak> similar to ctrl + 1  and fix type,  if it returns different Type that you have there
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[16:06:14] <eMBee> strange, now it shows me the 1.0 version, why didn't it do that before?
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[16:08:30] * rcjsuen shrugs.
[16:11:10] <eMBee> well, thanks for helping me to clear that up
[16:11:36] <eMBee> i'd have continued using 0.11 being none the wiser otherwise
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[16:16:47] <eMBee> could the reason be related to my eclipse version being 3.6.2(helios)? i unchecked 'show only the latest version' this time, and it als otakes forever to calculate dependencies, which makes me thing that egit 1.0 needs something newer than 3.6.2
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[16:19:22] <mpiggott> You probably just don't have a repo with 1.0 available
[16:19:41] <rcjsuen> what Matt said
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[16:34:16] <eMBee> 1.0 is available now, it wasn't before. the only difference being that i unselected 'show only the latest versions'
[16:35:16] <eMBee> oh, and i specifically enabled the egit repo in the list.
[16:36:12] <mpiggott> ....
[16:37:51] <eMBee> before i used '--all available sites-' to search
[16:38:44] <mpiggott> Disabled sites are not used
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[16:42:16] <dax_roc> Afternoon all
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[16:42:28] <eMBee> yes, that makes sense, of course i didn't realize that since i still found some version of egit
[16:42:43] <dax_roc> What's the recomended jre on linux for eclipse ?
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[16:44:26] <rcjsuen> dax_roc: just get Java from Oracle
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[16:59:10] <B4st3s> ...
[16:59:50] <rcjsuen> what a profound statement
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[17:00:35] <nbf> it's truly the sound of one hand clapping on irc
[17:01:03] <rcjsuen> well, we all know what one hand clapping sounds like
[17:01:30] <rcjsuen> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhEoKO1UIOg
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[17:04:26] <kikeb> hi
[17:04:40] <kikeb> i got this error when i try to run eclipse indigo (latest version) http://postimage.org/image/33uhcdlyc/
[17:04:58] <kikeb> i have this java vesion  http://pastebin.com/zdpVSjBX
[17:05:36] <kikeb> it's eclipse for 32bits i think
[17:06:13] <nitind> Be sure about that.
[17:07:24] <nitind> And that you have Read and Execute permission for that file.
[17:08:15] <kikeb> sorry i must go out for now :( thanks
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[17:11:54] <dax_roc> rcjsuen: Thanks, Better now seems a litter faster
[17:12:13] <rcjsuen> nitind: lol
[17:12:27] <rcjsuen> well that was short-lived
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[17:18:56] <Caterpillar> Hi, do you know if there is a command to automatically indent all things in a java class? I need to move every line of 3 chars in right direction
[17:19:26] <paulweb515_> Caterpillar: CTRL+F will indent the entire file, based on your code style settings
[17:19:48] <paulweb515_> Caterpillar: selecting N lines and using TAB or SHIFT+TAB will move those lines right or left
[17:20:42] <Caterpillar> wow it is a MIRACLE"
[17:20:43] <Caterpillar> !
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[17:21:12] <mpiggott> paulweb515_: CTRL + F is find ;)
[17:21:25] <mpiggott> CTRL + I is indent
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[17:24:14] <rcjsuen> Ctrl+Shift+F is the foramtter for the whole file, Ctrl+I is for individual lines, as mpiggott pointed out
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[17:53:13] <wainersm> all any member of gef project here?
[17:53:31] <rcjsuen> Taking a poll?
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[17:55:30] <wainersm> i'd to know plans to gef 3.7.1...
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[17:57:41] * eMBee is still strugling with egit, now with the update i am trying to import the project created before (hence it has a .project file) but when i do that it is still not connected to the git repo. if i import from git then it tells me: a project already exists. so how do i import an existing project from git?
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[17:57:59] <rcjsuen> wainersm: Rephrase that.
[17:58:38] <rcjsuen> wainersm: I imagine they will release 3.7.1 with Indigo SR1, Sept/oct
[17:58:38] <wainersm> rcjsuen, actually gef site says 3.7.1 will come out by February/2012. I'd like to double check that
[17:58:40] <rcjsuen> i think it's late September
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[17:58:56] <rcjsuen> i would expect that to be a typo
[17:58:59] <rcjsuen> since feb '12 would be SR2
[17:59:01] <wainersm> rcjsuen, I thought that as well
[17:59:22] <rcjsuen> if you are curious ask on the mailing list
[17:59:22] <wainersm> rcjsuen, hmm..that is why I wanted to double check
[17:59:51] <wainersm> rcjsuen, sure. I will do that. Thanks
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[18:00:17] <rcjsuen> eMBee: i import from the git import wiz
[18:00:31] <rcjsuen> tho your warning message implies there is another project with the same name registered with said workspace
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[18:02:55] <eMBee> rcjsuen: no, i deleted all projects from the workspace. sorry, i didn't say that clearly, the warning says: a .project file already exists in the directory ...
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[18:03:39] <rcjsuen> I don't think I've heard of that error before.
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[18:05:01] <eMBee> hold on, i didn't select 'import existing project' sorry
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[18:07:17] <eMBee> but then the import has an error some thing can not be linked because link source and destination are the same, and then it doesn't finish, i can cancel and end up with a project that is yet again not connected to git
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[18:09:43] <eMBee> something is the directory of the git repo: Cannot create a link to '/local/users/mbaehr/repo/eclipse/javaclient' because it overlaps the location of the project that contains the linked resource
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[18:13:21] <eMBee> apart from that sharing a new project with an existing repo requires me to put the project into a subdirectory of the git repo, that is not useful for me, because in my case the project is the git repo, it's not a subproject of the repo
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[18:20:59] <soc42> hi #eclipses
[18:21:19] <soc42> how can i see syntax highlighting for .sql files?
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[18:30:42] <soc42> ok, just installed "Data Tools Project" Extender SDK (latest Version v1.9.0) - works!
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[19:01:10] <paulweb515_> mpiggott: oops, sorry, CTRL+SHIFT+F is format
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[19:13:23] <rcjsuen> eMBee: You mean the folder has both the .git folder and the .project file?
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[19:38:00] <Hodapp> I'm on Eclipse Indigo, trying to annotations be generated. One of my other projects in another workspace generates them just fine, but this one does not - and I'm using some of the same source files with JPA2 annotations
[19:38:19] <Hodapp> and I've checked in Properties / Java Compiler / Annotation Processing that it is enabled
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[19:54:57] <devish> is there ssome difference b/t ide for java dev, EE dev , eclipse classic
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[19:58:14] <timotei> Does anyone have any idea on how to make javadoc *include* the eclipse jars
[19:58:24] <timotei> without the need of adding the specific jars?
[19:58:34] <timotei> javadoc from command line
[19:58:44] <timotei> or is this more of an... javadoc related question?
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[20:01:38] <rcjsuen> devish: well, yes, or else we wouldn't make different ones... :o
[20:02:21] <devish> rcjsuen: I was just reading the details
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[20:37:29] <noord> which uml plugin do you use ?
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[20:48:43] <aaas> why do you use eclipse over something like, say vim?  I'm using it now, and I love it, but Im curious why people perfer to go the IDE route, in particular with eclipse?
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[20:50:40] <rcjsuen> aaas: I like the code completion.
[20:51:17] <rcjsuen> debugger integration, stuff like that
[20:51:25] <aaas> rcjsuen: yes that is taking some getting use to for me, but vim has that too, right? (I swear I'm not a toll)
[20:51:30] <aaas> just curious
[20:51:40] <rcjsuen> I've seen it before
[20:51:43] <rcjsuen> i think there's a vim plug-in
[20:51:47] <rcjsuen> that reads your Eclipse workspace, or something like that
[20:51:52] <rcjsuen> well, i've seen _screenshots_
[20:52:07] <aaas> rcjsuen: yes it's nice to have everything there at once
[20:52:27] <rcjsuen> imo, if someone's more productive using Vim, they should use Vim :)
[20:52:37] <aaas> rcjsuen: I'm always currious what the most knowledgeable programmers use (I'm just a hobbiest)
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[20:52:57] <aaas> rcjsuen: I'm more interested in the question of what is theoretically more productive method
[20:52:58] <rcjsuen> you would get a range of answers
[20:53:17] <rcjsuen> lol "theoretically more productive"
[20:53:17] <aaas> rcjsuen: the question is COULD those who are super-efficient with vim be even more efficient with eclipse
[20:53:27] <aaas> rcjsuen: exactly ;)
[20:53:34] <aaas> rcjsuen: people get stuck in their ways
[20:53:40] <aaas> rcjsuen: habit and ideology
[20:53:58] <aaas> rcjsuen: happens with OSes and editors more than anything it seems
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[20:57:01] <tdroid> Is there an easy way to download all of the source code for a particular release of Eclipse?
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[20:58:11] <rcjsuen> tdroid: Download the SDK, and you have the source.
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[21:07:10] <tdroid> Is that everything though? (Include mylyn and CDT and such)
[21:07:48] <mpiggott> tdroid: No, those aren't included in the SDK.  Source bundles for everything should be in the indigo repository though
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[21:35:02] <tdroid> mpiggott: Where exactly? I haven't been able to find anything. I'm looking for the source for the Helios SR2 CDT release in order to be compliant with the EPL.
[21:37:00] <heinz> does that mean there's no direct cvs/svn/git/whatever access?
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[21:38:40] <tdroid> I have direct cvs/etc access now, but I want to build a source archive for people who don't.
[21:39:00] <mpiggott> tdroid: Whatever p2 repository you got CDT from
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[21:45:05] <tdroid> I got a release bundle: http://mirror.cc.vt.edu/pub/eclipse/technology/epp/downloads/release/helios/SR2/eclipse-cpp-helios-SR2-win32.zip
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[22:04:21] <rcjsuen> tdroid: What part of the license are you being compliant with here
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[22:12:26] <tdroid> "states that source code for the Program is available from such Contributor, and informs licensees how to obtain it in a reasonable manner on or through a medium customarily used for software exchange."
[22:13:02] <nitind> Are you contributing or merely redistributing?
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[22:13:34] <tdroid> Just redistributing.
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[22:15:55] <rcjsuen> tdroid: so you mean you are just providing a mirror for the cpp bundle?
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[22:18:15] <tdroid> Basically. It may be distributed on CDs and such as well.
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[22:19:40] <rcjsuen> I don't think there's an easy way to get a source bundle right now.
[22:19:52] <rcjsuen> Technically you could have the users contact the Foundation if all you're doing is providing that same zip file.
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[23:30:50] <triptec1> hey, for some reason I can't reach eclipse.org from linux, not in the browser or from the ide, any idea or mirrors for plugins?
[23:31:00] <triptec1> all other pages works just fin
[23:31:01] <triptec1> e
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[23:35:00] <nitind> triptec1: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/eclipse.org ?
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[23:35:51] <triptec1> very strange..
[23:35:58] <triptec1> I can't connect
[23:36:05] <triptec1> well well
[23:36:06] <devish> how to run eclipse on linux
[23:36:14] <devish> http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_How_do_I_run_Eclipse%3F#Starting_Eclipse
[23:36:51] <devish> is this all is required or just unzipping and clicking the package will work
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[23:37:22] <rcjsuen> that's the gist of it
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[23:37:25] <rcjsuen> assuming you have Java installed
[23:38:30] <alx> devish: try running java -version and see if you get same permission denied error
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[23:39:46] <devish> alx: no , i get java version "1.6.0_26"
[23:40:14] <nitind> devish: So are you stuck at some point, or have you just not tried it yet?
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[23:40:53] <devish> nitind: struck would be more good
[23:41:11] <nitind> devish: I don't know what that means.
[23:41:14] <devish> i tried chmod ,being root
[23:42:03] <devish> but every time i do  ./eclipse via cli it ssays permission denied
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[23:42:19] <nitind> devish: chmod with what arguments?
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[23:42:29] <devish> +x
[23:43:00] <devish> was that necessary ?
[23:43:09] <alx> devish: shouldn't be
[23:43:13] <nitind> It shouldn't have to have been.
[23:43:38] <alx> devish: which eclipse distro did you download?
[23:45:09] <devish> from eclipse.org simple ,java development eclipse
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[23:48:53] <alx> devish: url? other thing I'm wondering is did you get 64 bit and are running on 32 bit
[23:51:30] <devish> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/  i got 2 one and its 64 bit as my os
[23:54:54] <devish> okay i will try with helios this time see waht happens
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[23:57:27] <ccmonster> hey guys, the themes in my aptana plugin dont work on js files
[23:57:30] <ccmonster> how do i fix this?
[23:58:45] <rcjsuen> ask the Aptana guys
[23:59:59] <ccmonster> not sure if they have a room, because #aptana is empty

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