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[00:05:05] <gravestone> briandealwis: linux
[00:05:31] <briandealwis> gravestone: what error are you seeing?
[00:05:51] <gravestone> I'm not seeing anything (empty variables)
[00:05:58] <briandealwis> gra
[00:06:06] <briandealwis> gravestone: it may be that that variable is empty
[00:06:07] <briandealwis> ?
[00:06:29] <briandealwis> Try outputting ${eclipse_home} ? that should definitely have a value
[00:06:47] <gravestone> nop
[00:08:16] <briandealwis> ~imagebin
[00:08:16] <Arbalest> Please upload your screenshots online and then paste the link back to the channel - http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add - http://www.freeimagehosting.net/ - http://imagebin.ca/upload.php - http://imageshack.us/
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[00:09:00] <briandealwis> gravestone: take a look at http://imagebin.org/167481
[00:11:15] <gravestone> Thanks
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[00:57:53] <bcessa> hi, any plugin dev here with the time for give a hand compiling/building the code for a plugin that's available on the web, I just can't find how to build the thing :(
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[01:36:06] <rvsjoen> is there any option to run over all the files in a directory tree and convert CRLF to CR or tabs to spaces and vice versa ?
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[01:43:27] <bcessa> thnx anyway!
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[01:52:53] <ryzngard> rvsjeoin: there are a few tools outside of eclipse for that
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[02:01:43] <rvsjoen> I just found AnyEdit plugin which seems to work nicely
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[02:41:53] <WLP|Away> I'm having a problem with Eclipse.  I have a project I rearranged.  I can no longer debug inside Eclipse.  Eclipse's Package Explorer also no longer shows the contents of packages.
[02:42:50] <WLP|Away> Can someone help?
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[02:46:05] <ryzngard> WLP: Make sure that the project is being considered the correct project type
[02:46:25] <WLP|Away> Where do I do that?
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[02:49:47] <ryzngard> WillPittenger: to be honest I'm not 100% sure. I just know i had that problem and reimported the project as a java project and it fixed it
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[02:50:36] <WillPittenger> Technically, it is two projects.  One is a Java applet.  The other a webpage, CSS file, and some JS.
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[03:15:53] <multiHYP> hi all
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[03:18:45] <nitind> WillPittenger: You can't debug Java sources that aren't in a Java Project.
[03:19:00] <WillPittenger> They were.
[03:19:05] <WillPittenger> It worked fine.
[03:27:24] <WillPittenger> nitind: This shows my new project layout --> http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/872/projectlayout.png
[03:28:18] <WillPittenger> The only problems are that I duplicated the website, logo, and screen shot folders for reason and I can drop the Code levels.
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[04:58:19] <multiHYP> goodnight everybody.
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[05:17:51] <t0lkman> hello
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[05:27:03] <M22> hey, i want to use ECF functionality in my plugin to open a chat box, given an email id...
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[05:27:10] <M22> is this possible?
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[06:06:25] <M22> can anyone lead me to good working example illustrating the ecf functionality?
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[06:36:18] <M22> "ECF Filetransfer Patch for Eclipse" is not applicable to the current configuration and will not be installed" can anyone help?
[06:40:16] <ron> it seems google can.
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[06:41:24] <M22> iv been googling and ive been quite unsuccessful... i wouldnt ask here w/o searching
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[06:43:09] <ron> wasn't trying to suggest you did, just seems there's a known bug about it, no?
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[06:48:11] <M22> ron:there are just explanations as to why it happens... nothing i can do about it
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[06:48:41] <ron> maybe search the ~forums
[06:48:41] <Arbalest> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/
[06:49:01] <M22> thanks, i'll do that
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[06:50:31] <ron> if you can't find anything there, just post your question there. you're more likely to get a reply about it there.
[06:52:01] <M22> thanks, i'll do that
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[09:40:01] <bloony> I've moved the project on hd, but cant find out where I change the PROJECT_LOC variable in eclipse
[09:41:11] <bloony> I've gone into properties of the project -> resource-> Linked Resources , but the edit button is disabled
[09:41:18] <ron> just import it again to the workspace.
[09:42:16] <bloony> ron: setting up a new project?
[09:42:32] <ron> no, import an existing project.
[09:45:00] <bloony> ron: in the import menu the folder is there, but its greyed out..
[09:45:30] <ron> do you see the project in the workspace?
[09:45:45] <bloony> yes its there
[09:45:57] <bloony> and I right clicked it -> import
[09:46:05] <ron> sec, phone
[09:46:33] <bloony> then -> general -> existing projects into workspace
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[09:47:01] <ron> wait, if you can see the project in your workspace, what's the problem?
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[09:48:07] <bloony> ron: I've moved all the files on the harddrive
[09:48:30] <ron> does the project in the workspace appear to be 'closed'?
[09:48:44] <bloony> how do I see that?
[09:49:06] <ron> can you see any files under it? (in the workspace, inside eclipse)
[09:49:08] <bloony> theres a small yellow icon on it
[09:49:23] <bloony> yeah I see the files, but when I try to open it it says it cant find it
[09:49:46] <bloony> and in the project properties the PROJECT_LOC is the old path
[09:49:49] <ron> okay. try removing the project from the workspace, and then importing it again.
[09:51:43] <bloony> that removed all the files and it set the PROJEC_LOC to where the workspace is located...
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[09:53:55] <ron> even after you imported the project again?
[09:54:52] <bloony> nvm got it working :)
[09:55:06] <bloony> imported the wrong file
[09:55:07] <ron> great :)
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[10:16:31] <alem0lars> how can I enable webkit on yoxos? i tried the option in the .ini file but it seems to ignore it. How can I do that?
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[12:35:43] <la00> hello
[12:36:28] <la00> anyone knows if Eclipse Link support @NamedQuery caching?
[12:37:53] <la00> must be some hints={ cache or something}
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[12:47:30] <Hui_Nan> Hi, all!
[12:48:56] <Hui_Nan> Eclipse Helios, EPIC. When I launch a perl resource, new launch configuration is created every time
[12:49:33] <Hui_Nan> actually I want all the files t/*.t by default use the same launch configuration
[12:49:42] <Hui_Nan> how to achieve that?
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[13:30:08] <samuell> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7039349/how-to-programmatically-refresh-an-eclipse-view-or-rse-file-subsystem
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[13:39:03] <rcjsuen__> Hui_Nan: Ask the EPIC ppl
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[13:40:04] <rcjsuen> samuell: How do you usually refresh the view?
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[13:40:29] <Hui_Nan> rcjsuen__: thank you. Actually I've found the answer in ...EPIC forum %-)
[13:40:39] <Hui_Nan> a kind of an answer %-)
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[13:44:42] <samuell> rcjsuen, Now I have to manually select the parent folder of where the generated file is, and press F5.
[13:45:24] <rcjsuen> samuell: Perhaps you should look at the code that triggers that refresh action then.
[13:45:29] <rcjsuen> Then you can see if there is an API you can use.
[13:45:40] <rcjsuen> Or alternatively just trigger that refresh action and maybe it will work.
[13:50:46] <samuell> rcjsuen, True ... gotta find out how to find out what triggers that action then :) ...
[13:51:10] <samuell> I think there is some kind of plugin-spy functionality in Eclipse ... have forgot how to activate it ... anybody remember?
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[13:55:10] <Peste_Bubonica> Hi all..
[13:55:52] <Peste_Bubonica> Ive upgraded to Eclipse Indigo, and subversive does not apply labels on project explorer anymore..
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[13:56:05] <Peste_Bubonica> labels on changed classes, etc..
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[14:02:15] <Peste_Bubonica> oh, it works!
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[14:44:39] <ron> samuell: do you have pde installed?
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[14:48:00] <samuell> ron, I have the "Eclipse for RCP and RAP developers", not sure if it includes PDE ... (isnt mentioned in the "Help > About Eclipse > Installation details" list)
[14:48:30] <samuell> Ah, no, yes, I have PDE
[14:48:51] <samuell> (was just a bit hidden in the plug-in tree)
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[14:52:06] <ron> samuell: try alt+shift+f1
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[14:59:08] <Alvo> lol eclipse is so funny i tried installing subversion from marketplace and it said something like it could not find native libraries, and i mussay, i expected something this :)
[14:59:59] <samuell> ron, Doesn't work ... have some memory that one had to activate it somehow though ...
[15:00:40] <ron> samuell: go to window->settings, and in the filter box type 'spy'
[15:00:47] <ron> I don't have pde installed, so I can't check it on my own.
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[15:02:27] <samuell> ron, Ok, I think I found it ... they say in this blog post, I have to include org.eclipse.pde.runtime in the application: http://www.vogella.de/blog/2009/06/22/eclipse-plug-in-spy-eclipse-rcp/
[15:02:29] <samuell> Will try ...
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[15:31:51] <scorch> when I try to generate a web service client, a proxy class is never generated when I used soap12, but if I change it to just soap it works like a charm, any idea as to why?
[15:32:41] <scorch> by that I mean <wsoap12:binding ...> instead of <soap:binding ...> etc.
[15:33:00] <scorch> I have declared the namespace as xmlns:wsoap12="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/soap12/"
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[15:44:59] <lahwran> wt?f are some of you people smoking?
[15:45:08] <lahwran> specifically the ones who write eclipse
[15:45:17] <lahwran> I love it most of the time, but then it does things like this:
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[15:45:34] <lahwran> "Projects located in the workspace folder must be direct sub folders of the workspace folder"
[15:45:40] <cdh> anybody using eclipse pdt on linux?
[15:45:42] <lahwran> I want my workspace organized, damnit
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[15:46:45] <cdh> Anybody using Eclipse PDT SDK on Linux Ubunut?
[15:46:53] <cdh> Ubuntu*
[15:47:12] <lahwran> you just asked that
[15:47:34] <scorch> captain obvious
[15:47:35] <lahwran> without so many qualifiers, maybe, but you could have just said "on ubuntu, using the PDT SDK specifically"
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[15:48:13] <nitind> lahwran: It's convoluted, but it means what it says.
[15:48:35] <lahwran> I know it means what it says
[15:48:38] <nitind> lahwran: And how is that *not* organized?
[15:48:55] <lahwran> because I have to stick every single project I work on in the same workspace?
[15:49:02] <lahwran> without any grouping
[15:49:26] <lahwran> well, every project that belongs in the same workspace
[15:49:30] <cdh> lahwran,  thanks for rephrasing my question so people understand
[15:49:49] <nitind> You're conflating the workspace with just a directory.  There's more to it than that.  Besides, what's saying this anyway?  Most wizards let you pick a location for the project, even one outside of the workspace directory.
[15:50:08] <nitind> ~tell cdh about ask
[15:50:08] <Arbalest> cdh: If you have a question, just ask, don't ask if you can ask a question. Skip the "meta-questions" like asking whether anyone uses X also as a precursor to check whether anyone can help you with a problem you have with X. Just ask the real question you have about X.
[15:51:08] <nitind> lahwran: If you want to group them in some custom way, just make their location some place not under the workspace directory.
[15:52:18] <lahwran> I've been using ~/workspace as my "projects" directory for nearly a year now
[15:52:26] <cdh> When I try to create a php project in /var/www  invalid project contents directory - access rights I guess. What is the best way of setting eclipse php projects up in Linux Ubuntu?
[15:52:28] <lahwran> I'm attempting to organize it
[15:52:41] <cdh> nitind, thx
[15:52:50] <lahwran> cdh: I don't have an answer, but if nobody here knows, you could try ##php
[15:53:15] <lahwran> nitind: so you're telling me to just scrap ~/workspace, move to like ~/projects?
[15:53:47] <lahwran> assuming, of course, that I don't want to spread out my projects
[15:54:24] <lahwran> in any case, the real thing I was annoyed about is that there is no reason for it to not allow workspace/blah/project
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[15:56:25] <nitind> lahwran: No, don't confuse the workspace with a single directory.  You can have ~/workspace.  You can have projects in ~/projects/CompanyA/ and ~/projects/CompanyB .  The location of the project doesn't have to be the location of the workspace with the project's name appended to it.
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[15:57:24] <lahwran> I'm saying, why does it prevent ~/workspace/blah/blah
[15:57:31] <lahwran> I understand that you CAN have something else
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[15:57:36] <mpiggott>  Eclipse does not prevent it
[15:57:44] <lahwran> yes it does..?
[15:57:53] <lahwran> "Projects located in the workspace folder must be direct sub folders of the workspace folder"
[15:58:16] <mpiggott> Eclipse does not.  Maybe PDT or whatever plugin you are using might
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[15:58:54] <nitind> mpiggott: The message lahwran mentions is true.  Directories under the workspace directory are treated differently.
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[15:59:19] <nitind> Maybe it's for compatibility with 1.0, but I don't know myself why that restriction's there.
[15:59:25] <mpiggott> nitind: In m2e we have nested project structures in the workspace
[15:59:46] <nitind> mpiggott: Nested Eclipse project structures, or nested Maven project structures?
[16:00:07] <nitind> mpiggott: That Eclipse treats as multiple projects?
[16:00:11] <mpiggott> nitind: Yes
[16:01:37] <mpiggott> I mean worst case, move the project where you want,  Import > Existing Project,   uncheck Copy.  Done
[16:02:55] <cdh___> how come it get this error when trying to connect to php: Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
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[16:06:52] <nitind> cdh___: You probably need to register your nick with nickserv.  /msg nickserv help
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[16:46:58] <obfuscatr> hi all. i'm trying to get spring integration working, e.g. so that i can see a property that's set by spring. have installed Spring IDE and SPringSource Tool Suite, but don't see any changes to viewing .java in the IDE. Does this feature exist? Do I need to enable these plugins somehow?
[16:47:28] <mpiggott> obfuscatr: Probably need to ask on spring forums
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[17:02:38] <mattt_> Is CDT not capable of resolving symbols beyond a single header file?  That is, can it not resolve symbols that'd be found in "nested" header includes?
[17:03:14] <mattt_> Or is that an issue with the indexer?
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[17:36:29] <Hodapp> I am trying to connect to SQL Server via JDBC, and I'm using Microsoft's driver for this (version 3.0 I think). It is working in the program itself, but I cannot connect from the data source explorer or the "New Connection Profile" dialog with its "Test Connection"
[17:36:52] <Hodapp> and the reaason for this is that Microsoft's silly JAR requires a DLL alongside it or inside the java.library.path, which I can set for a project, but not for this connection profile
[17:37:18] <Hodapp> in the interest of not having to do configuration semi-blindly, is there a way around this?
[17:37:55] <Hodapp> I tried putting the DLL in C:\windows\system32 and alongside the same JAR that I specify to the driver definition but neither of those work
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[17:39:25] <nbf> Hodapp: you could put it on eclipse's java.library.path
[17:40:11] <Hodapp> nbf: Oh, there's a global one?
[17:40:23] <nbf> yeah it's a vm arg
[17:40:33] <Hodapp> Alright, maybe I'll consider that.
[17:40:51] <Hodapp> since not using Microsoft's annoying drivers isn't really an option
[17:41:04] <nbf> because of eclipse's launcher setup you have to do this in a slightly eclipse specific way
[17:41:12] <TomTom> stupid question: why using this driver? there is jdts or a type4 jdbc driver from microsoft... no legacy stuff required
[17:41:13] <nbf> but you set the variable the same way as any native lib
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[17:43:49] <xbb> Hello
[17:43:50] <xbb> My breakpoint drops into java file and and class file, what can be causing this?
[17:44:10] <xbb> *and NOT class file*
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[17:44:39] <rcjsuen> What happens when you try to toggle?
[17:44:42] <rcjsuen> Does the 'Breakpoints' view update?
[17:44:56] <rcjsuen> and what do you mean by "drop"
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[17:46:57] <TomTom> ok, i see the problem. when using the integrated security you need these dlls/so's ... stupid
[17:47:09] <xbb> rcjsuen: yes it toggles fine. In this particular class I am trying to debug overridden public boolean isSupportedType(TransferData transferData); in ByteArrayTransfer. When I go into ByteArrayTransfer.isSupportedType java file is open and not class file.
[17:47:50] <rcjsuen> Wouldn't you usually expect it to step and show source code
[17:48:08] <xbb> right, but should it open class file with the source?
[17:48:19] <xbb> and not java file
[17:48:25] <rcjsuen> isn't source a java file...
[17:48:46] <xbb> No, I mean compiled class
[17:49:13] <rcjsuen> I don't think we're talking about the same thing.
[17:49:15] <rcjsuen> Screenshots.
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[17:53:02] <nitind> xbb: Yes.  That's what it does when a jar has a source attachment, as most do when you're using the SDK download.
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[17:53:59] <xbb> nitind: but it does not seem to go at right line of the file. Screenshot coming...
[17:55:06] <mpiggott> Some lines can't have breakpoints.  e.g.   String foo;
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[17:56:59] <xbb> rcjsuen: nitind this is what I see: http://i.imgur.com/mzwOd.gif
[17:57:27] <xbb> on the left and is my breakpoint and on right where I end up when I go into super method.
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[17:59:30] <mmncs> Hi, When I try to create a project in /var/www with Eclipse Indigo in Linux Ubuntu I get the following error: invalid project contents directory and guess its the access rights, but what is the best practice for setting up a new php project?
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[17:59:57] <rcjsuen> based on your hollow J I'm not convinced it's opening the right file
[18:00:12] <Sembiance> I still use the Sysdeo tomcat DevLoader plugin because it seems much better than the built in Eclipse support for handling tomcat servers. Is this still true?
[18:00:46] <Sembiance> DevLoader lets me make changes to classes without having to restart tomcat. When using the built in eclipse support, it kept restarting my tomcat whenever it detected a change...
[18:01:24] <nitind> xbb: Is the class file for that .java file current?  Do you need to do a Build?
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[18:02:12] <nitind> Sembiance: When you Debugged the Server or just Run it?  You have to be in Debug to reload classes.
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[18:02:21] <xbb> nitind: what do you mean by Build?
[18:02:46] <Sembiance> nitind: Pretty sure it was when I debugged, but let me set up an eclipse managed tomcat server along side my sysdeo managed one and see
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[18:05:24] <cyth> mmncs, hit me up in here.
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[18:05:56] <nitind> xbb: Compile.  When the two are out of sync it's usually because the debugger is stepping through out of date byte code compared to what the editor is displaying.
[18:06:04] <nitind> That, or the source is wrong.
[18:07:02] <nitind> The debug protocol is telling Eclipse you're on line X and the editor is showing you as on line X, regardless of whether the source content matches since that's the only source it has to show.
[18:07:37] <mmncs> cyth, how do you set up a php project in eclipse?
[18:08:16] <mmncs> cyth, bc if you do it under /var/www I get invalid contents projects contents directory
[18:08:27] <cyth> eh I don't
[18:08:42] <cyth> I just use my workspace but I create a new VHOST for each project.
[18:09:01] <nitind> You really shouldn't develop in your production server space.
[18:09:10] <cyth> then set up my /etc/hosts/ file to point projectname.localhost/ to that vhost
[18:09:15] <xbb> nitind: Thanks. Also the swt jar is o.e.swt_3.5.2.v3557f.jar. Never seen version like that before.
[18:09:57] <xbb> May this has to do with it, as other class - StructuredViewer opens correctly w/breakpoint.
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[18:10:13] <cyth> set up the vhost to the docroot of the project.
[18:10:20] <nitind> xbb: The qualifier part of the version is based on the CVS tag.  SWT tags itself using regular numbers not derived from the time.
[18:10:42] <mmncs> ok, but I have had problems where the apache couldn't read the file when they where created by my user
[18:11:10] <xbb> I see
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[18:12:13] <cyth> mmncs, then adjust the permissions.
[18:12:40] <cyth> since it's local development I usually put me and the www-data into the same group...
[18:12:52] <cyth> btw which is somethign ID NEVER EVER do in production or even test.
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[18:13:22] <mmncs> do you have the command for that
[18:13:34] <cyth> usually create a new "webeditor" group
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[18:14:00] <cyth> eh I don't have it off the top of my head
[18:14:03] <cyth> it's several commands
[18:14:13] <cyth> one to create the group and another to add it to the users.
[18:14:19] <mmncs> cyth,  ill google thanks
[18:14:28] <cyth> mmncs, just be careful adding the group.
[18:14:35] <cyth> remember you want to append to the group
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[18:14:43] <cyth> one time I accidently replaced it as my group
[18:14:48] <cyth> cuz I forgot a flag
[18:14:52] <cyth> pretyt much broke everything
[18:15:14] <cyth> and since it was one of those linux distros that don't let you log on directly into root
[18:15:20] <cyth> I had to reboot in single user mode to fix it.
[18:15:22] <mmncs> so I create a new group and append www-data and my self to that group
[18:15:26] <cyth> bad times!
[18:15:32] <cyth> yeah
[18:15:42] <cyth> then make sure all your files are owned by that group
[18:15:44] <mmncs> cyth, cool thanks
[18:16:24] <mmncs> but when I create new files in eclipse wont they be owned by my user?
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[18:20:08] <cyth> mmncs, there's a linux feature that can fix that
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[18:21:04] <cyth> mmncs, basically you do a setgid on the project directory
[18:21:35] <Sembiance> When you add a 'project' to an Eclipse Web Deployment Assembly, it does not include that project's build path. You have to manually add every JAR that the project relies on?
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[18:25:01] <mpiggott> cyth: sudo sh
[18:29:22] <Sembiance> nitind: So I have tomcat in Eclipse running in 'Debug'. I make a small change to a class (add a letter to a string) and eclipse detects this change and 'restarts' my tomcat.
[18:31:59] <theresajayne> Strings are immutable so a reload of the app is needed
[18:32:48] <mattt_> I cdt known for having problems when it comes to field and symbol resolution?
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[18:34:54] <Sembiance> nitind: figured it out: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/921684/how-to-tell-eclipse-3-4-wtp-to-not-restart-tomcat-on-jsp-save
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[18:46:51] <caseyburk> What would cause Eclipse Indigo to incorrectly build a manifest only when doing a Project build? The build.xml file?
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[18:49:21] <Caterpillar> Do you know if Eclipse has included some JSON libraries like the ones you can download from http://json.org/java/ ?
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[18:50:06] <Caterpillar> yeah maybe I said wrong and openjdk is the one who should have included them, not Eclipse,
[18:50:18] <Caterpillar> btw if you know about that please tell me :)
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[19:00:15] <HACKhalo2> how do i disable automatic import organizing?
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[19:03:47] <HACKhalo2> it's starting to annoy me when I try to compile a maven project and Eclipse removes the import I need
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[19:08:35] <mpiggott> Caterpillar: the JSON library is in orbit so I assume some projects might use it.  What are you trying to do?
[19:09:35] <Caterpillar> I need them to handle WordReference API responses that are in JSON format
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[19:11:05] <la00> hello anyone knows if is it possible to countDistinct a multiselect on eclipselink?
[19:11:14] <mpiggott> Caterpillar: Not sure what you mean by that.   Are you developing an Eclipse plugin?
[19:11:51] <Caterpillar> mpiggott: no, an application
[19:11:55] <Caterpillar> I use eclipse to develop it
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[19:13:13] <mpiggott> Caterpillar: If you aren't developing an Eclpse plugin, or RCP app then you need to include a library on your projects build path either download and add manually, or use Maven, Ivy, etc. integrations to manage your dependencies.
[19:13:58] <Caterpillar> mpiggott: you mean the jar file
[19:14:08] <mpiggott> Yes
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[19:15:41] <Caterpillar> thx
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[19:43:51] <umashanthi> hi
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[19:44:17] <umashanthi> I'm have used maven eclipse plugin to download the sources when building
[19:44:42] <umashanthi> I would like to know where does the sources get downloaded when using mvn -fae eclipse:eclipse -DdownloadSources=true
[19:48:34] <mpiggott> umashanthi: I am not familiar with that goal, but usually source jars end up in the maven repo, usually ~/.m2/repository
[19:49:28] <umashanthi> mpiggott: yes. I too is thinking like that. But when I attached the source folder as /.m2/repository in eclipse, it says source not found
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[19:50:22] <mpiggott> umashanthi: Because that isn't a valid source folder.  Maven sources are jars and the repo stores them in goup/artifact/version  paths
[19:50:35] <mpiggott> umashanthi: You would need to add the source jar
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[19:51:39] <umashanthi> mpiggott: how can I do that? isn't this command download source jars? mvn  eclipse:eclipse -DdownloadSources=true
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[19:52:40] <mpiggott> umashanthi: Browse the local repo based on the gav of whatever artifact you are looking for and point Eclipse at the source bundle
[19:53:44] <umashanthi> mpiggott: I tried that way (pointing the jars in m2/repo). but still getting source not found
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[19:54:21] <mpiggott> THen you aren't using a source jar.  iirc filename ends in -sources.jar
[19:55:09] <mpiggott> m2e does source lookup automatically when you hit a classfile
[19:55:45] <umashanthi> mpiggott: in which location the source jars exist?
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[19:56:32] <mpiggott> umashanthi: ... see above.  typically sources jars are placed in the local repo, I have no idea if that plugin does that or not
[19:57:14] <umashanthi> mpiggott: what do you mean by local repo? ~/.m2/repository?
[19:57:20] <mpiggott> yes
[19:58:54] <umashanthi> mpiggott: so, the jars there are source jars right? any difference?
[20:02:14] <mpiggott> umashanthi: No not necessarily.  As above, the filename of a source artifact contains "sources"
[20:04:09] <umashanthi> mpiggott: can't we find them under the same directory as other jars. say for eg: org/eclipse/jdt/core.... ?
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[20:07:28] <mpiggott> umashanthi: Generally they should be in the same directory as the normal jar.  This could be what I mentioned before, that particular maven plugin may do its own thing
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[20:34:05] <fabiobik> hi
[20:34:12] <fabiobik> ive installed eclipse on debian
[20:34:25] <fabiobik> how to convert it to php?
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[20:36:58] <chrisinajar> is there any way to stop eclipse from restareting jboss when it autobuilds?
[20:37:14] <chrisinajar> I'm ok with it publishing, but i don't want it to restart jboss every single time i press ctrl+s
[20:37:39] <chrisinajar> fabiobik: open a .php file
[20:37:46] <chrisinajar> tadaaa! :P
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[20:39:23] <mpiggott> chrisinajar: Do you mean hotswap failed?
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[20:41:19] <mpiggott> fabiobik: You can add PHP support by installing pdt
[20:41:26] <Hodapp> If I have the Annotation Processor generating some code in some funky directory, how do I make Eclipse actually acknowledge this code
[20:41:29] <Hodapp> ...?
[20:41:53] <fabiobik> mpiggott how to?
[20:43:22] <Hodapp> Is there a reason it defaults to .apt_generated? Then Eclipse doesn't even see it
[20:45:03] <mpiggott> fabiobik: Yo ushould be able to use Help > Install Software, then select  the Indigo/Helios/Gallelio repository
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[20:55:18] <chrisinajar> mpiggott: wut? not sure what hotswap is, i know that every single time i save a file it reloads my module in tomcat, though...
[20:55:57] <chrisinajar> it makes the whole IDE start chugging really slow for about 30 seconds....
[20:57:24] <mpiggott> chrisinajar: I thought you were saying Eclipse was prompting you to restart because code hotswap (changing code in running jvm) failed.
[20:58:25] <chrisinajar> no, it just restarts automatically every time i save my files...
[20:59:53] <chrisinajar> i unchecked the "if the server is running automatically publish" thing, but that didn't actually make any difference
[21:00:07] <chrisinajar> i just stop my server every time i go to make code changes right now, it's too slow to use otherwise
[21:00:21] <chrisinajar> that or don't save until i'm done with everything
[21:00:29] <chrisinajar> which is a great habit to get in >.>
[21:03:31] <mpiggott> chrisinajar: It isn't really restarting, its redploying and maybe even rebuilding your war.  I'm not sure where the WTP or JBoos people read
[21:03:51] <Hodapp> Ugh, lovely, banned from #java because I tried to ask a question about Java EE 6 and JPA2.
[21:05:51] <nitind> I would hope it's not that simple.
[21:06:12] <Hodapp> nitind: Is that to me?
[21:06:20] <nitind> Hodapp: yes
[21:06:51] <Hodapp> nitind: I had a rather obscure question to ask about JPA2 and I did not want to spam the channel with something that no one was familiar with, so I asked first if anyone was familiar.
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[21:09:14] <Hodapp> The ops gave me the usual lecture about how you never ask to ask, and after a few of them said they were familiar with JPA2, I started to ask the question.
[21:09:25] <nitind> Their page says not to ask to ask, and no homework, which they may have assumed since you're coming from .edu.
[21:09:59] <nitind> You've been unbanned.
[21:10:49] <Hodapp> Yeah, I know that's unquestioned IRC dogma that you never ask to ask. I don't care. I'm not going to waste my time formulating a 10-line question if it's with something that no one is familiar with.
[21:11:10] <nitind> Guess you're not that interested in the answer.
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[21:12:21] <Hodapp> I'm interested in the answer.
[21:13:53] <chrisinajar> mpiggott: rebuilding is awesome, it's redeploying that sucks... it takes about 30-45 seconds and makes eclipse very slow while doing it.
[21:13:55] <Hodapp> But if the question is pointless to ask because no one is remotely familiar (which may very well be the case with WPA2), and it would be nothing more than an annoyance, I'm not going to bother wasting everyone's time/space with it.
[21:14:55] <chrisinajar> pretty sure you were banned for being a douchebag, actually :P
[21:15:13] <chrisinajar> i believe the last thing you said was "Grow the fuck up"
[21:15:25] <Hodapp> chrisinajar: That's because he was spamming the channel with lines from a bot that were not even remotely relevant.
[21:15:44] <chrisinajar> perhaps not being a douchebag would have been a better responce?
[21:15:46] <chrisinajar> just a thought.
[21:16:02] <Hodapp> chrisinajar: The "Generics" one was at best dismissive. The "RTFM" one was totally unnecessary. The "Butthurt" one was just an insult and nothing else.
[21:16:43] <chrisinajar> "butthurt" means "stop freaking out, you're freaking out"
[21:16:45] <Hodapp> chrisinajar: And frankly, anyone who spams the entire channel with stuff like that needs to be told to grow up.
[21:16:51] <Hodapp> chrisinajar: I wasn't freaking out. I was trying to ask my question.
[21:16:53] <chrisinajar> your responce to not freaking out was to freak out more
[21:17:17] <Hodapp> chrisinajar: I was trying to ask my question. It's not my fault they were being incredibly impatient and pretty much trolling me.
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[21:17:27] <chrisinajar> well, if you're so high and mighty i can't imagine why you can't figure it out on your own :)
[21:17:47] <Hodapp> chrisinajar: How is that "high and mighty"?
[21:18:34] <chrisinajar> because you're right about everything
[21:18:46] <chrisinajar> i'm already done talking to you, no wonder you were banned from the other channel :)
[21:18:59] <Hodapp> chrisinajar: At no point did I claim to be right about everything or even imply it.
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[21:19:25] <chrisinajar> sorry, you're right.
[21:19:29] <Hodapp> chrisinajar: I do, however, appreciate that you weren't trolling with the rest of them in the channel.
[21:19:43] <chrisinajar> if i was around i would have, it looked hilarious
[21:19:58] <chrisinajar> you need to be more humble and thankful
[21:20:03] <chrisinajar> they're not being paid to help you
[21:20:18] <chrisinajar> you were a dick, so they trolled you until you freaked out, then they banned you
[21:20:21] <chrisinajar> welcome to the internet.
[21:20:26] <Hodapp> I wasn't a dick, and I didn't freak out.
[21:20:32] <chrisinajar> sorry, you're right.
[21:20:43] <chrisinajar> and there's no possible way you could be wrong.
[21:20:45] <Hodapp> tjsnell's banned me before. He called me a "fucking idiot" and refused to say why.
[21:20:48] <chrisinajar> everyone on the internet is wrong but you.
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[21:22:29] <Hodapp> Your sarcasm and condescension is not necessary.
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[21:23:22] <Hodapp> Howdy dreamreal. Thought you hated Eclipse.
[21:23:33] <dreamreal> I don't hate anything
[21:25:19] <wabash> I like watching people complain about tjsnell.
[21:25:31] <Hodapp> Why would anyone complain about him?
[21:25:53] <dreamreal> this is surely offtopic for #eclipse
[21:25:56] <wabash> I don't think anyone would have a good reason.
[21:26:47] <chrisinajar> maybe not a good reason, but typically a hilarious reason
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[21:33:59] <nitind> Hodapp: FFS MAN!
[21:34:06] <Hodapp> Wha?
[21:34:10] <chrisinajar> i wonder if he even has a question...
[21:34:14] <chrisinajar> i bet he doesn't.
[21:34:24] <Hodapp> chrisinajar: Um, I'll just ask it in here if you want.
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[21:34:37] <nitind> Hodapp: Whatever, just ask it already.
[21:34:38] <dreamreal> we're pretty sure he does, he's been dancing around asking it for a while
[21:34:44] <chrisinajar> inb4 he still doesn't ask his question
[21:34:48] <Hodapp> chrisinajar: But if #java is just going to be one big circle-jerk, I'll wait until it dies down.
[21:34:52] <chrisinajar> HAH
[21:34:54] <chrisinajar> I WAS RIGHT
[21:34:59] <dreamreal> AHDB!
[21:35:00] <Hodapp> Right about what...?
[21:35:06] <nitind> Hodapp: Whatever, just ask it already.
[21:35:06] <chrisinajar> inb4 he still doesn't ask his question....
[21:35:08] <chrisinajar> again?
[21:35:19] <dreamreal> see what I did there with the acronym? You're welcome. :)
[21:35:39] <nitind> Hodapp: And if you can't fit it into IRC, take it to stackoverflow.
[21:35:54] <wabash> dreamreal: What does your *initialism* stand for?
[21:35:55] <Hodapp> nitind: You know, that might be a good idea.
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[21:36:17] <chrisinajar> I WAS RIGHT AGAIN
[21:36:17] <dreamreal> yeah!
[21:36:20] <chrisinajar> ready, 3 for 3...
[21:36:23] <chrisinajar> inb4 he still doesn't ask his question....
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[21:37:17] <jfisk87> get
[21:37:19] <jfisk87> hey*
[21:37:24] <jfisk87> im getting an out of memory error with eclipse
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[21:37:35] <jfisk87> running the android tools but its coming up as soon as i fire it u
[21:38:30] <Hodapp> The Java EE 6 tutorial from Oracle mentions Metamodel classes as things that you get by a means like: EntityType<Pet> Pet_ = m.entity(Pet.class), making Pet_ clearly an instance, not a class. Other references - and seemingly the implementation to which they refer - say that the metamodel class comes from the annotation processor, and that it is defined for as a class called Classname_.
[21:38:38] <chrisinajar> tld;
[21:38:40] <Hodapp> So my question is: Why is there this rather large discrepancy?
[21:38:40] <chrisinajar> *tldr;
[21:39:32] <chrisinajar> hmm, not sure, i haven't used those apis...
[21:39:36] <chrisinajar> what is it that you're trying to do?
[21:39:45] <mpiggott> jfisk87: open  eclipse.ini  and change Xmx
[21:39:50] <Hodapp> I'm trying to use the metamodel class to refer to the fields of an entity.
[21:39:55] <nitind> Hodapp: I think that's a question for the tutorial's author.
[21:40:04] <chrisinajar> Hodapp: ok, and does something not work?
[21:40:20] <Hodapp> nitind: As far as I can tell, this is pretty much a definitive reference from Oracle.
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[21:41:10] <nitind> Hodapp: Some questions can't be answered.  But maybe you should go ahead and dump that into ##java.
[21:41:13] <chrisinajar> Hodapp: oracle is godawful at documentation
[21:41:18] <chrisinajar> Hodapp: their documentation is often wrong
[21:41:19] <Hodapp> chrisinajar: Naw, really :P
[21:41:31] <Hodapp> Well, I knew it was awful, I didn't know it was wrong
[21:41:39] <chrisinajar> Hodapp: if you have an actual question, i'm sure someone would be happy to answer it though...
[21:42:08] <Hodapp> chrisinajar: I did have a question. A reformulated one might be along the lines of, "What is the proper way to get a metamodel class?"
[21:42:28] <chrisinajar> Hodapp: answerable question entails: What you're trying to do, how you're trying to do it, what you expected, what happens instead, sample code, and any other relevant information
[21:42:49] <chrisinajar> quite frankly you're too unlikable to have philisophical conversations about API design with
[21:42:55] <chrisinajar> so i recommend sticking with that format
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[21:44:43] <Hodapp> chrisinajar: I think you'll find that when you start attacking people personally, they rapidly become unlikable.
[21:45:19] <nitind> And I think you'll find if people in the channel start bickering about that kind of thing, we ban them all.
[21:45:44] <nitind> So, knock it off and get past it.
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[21:45:54] <chrisinajar> Hodapp: i'm only trying to help you, you've already turned an entire channel against you.
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[21:46:48] <ron> did I miss the fun?
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[21:47:26] <chrisinajar> ron: yes, it was hilarious
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[21:47:31] <chrisinajar> ron: the funner part was in ##java, though
[21:47:38] * ron snaps his fingers
[21:47:39] <chrisinajar> not one but two bans!
[21:47:44] <chrisinajar> on the same person!
[21:47:48] <ron> well, I missed the fun there as well.
[21:47:49] <chrisinajar> 15 minutes apart!
[21:48:04] <ron> just finished watching a movie.
[21:48:10] <chrisinajar> ron: the second one was funny because he was warned that if his next sentence wasn't his question, he would be banned
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[21:48:21] <chrisinajar> ron: then he bitched and moaned some more and was immediately banned
[21:48:28] <chrisinajar> i lolled at work.
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[21:54:04] <ron> dreamreal???
[21:54:14] <dreamreal> yes?
[21:54:30] <ron> wth are you doing here?
[21:54:51] <dreamreal> watching poor Hodapp
[21:55:19] <ron> is he like a freak show?
[21:55:29] <dreamreal> today, yeah
[21:55:49] <ron> nice.
[21:56:10] <ron> anyways, I think I'll go watch some tv. have a good one.
[21:56:11] <wabash> I'm still waiting for his question on #java
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[22:21:36] <caseyburk> I know this is probably too vague to explain what I probably did to cause this, but would anyone be able to provide some insight as to why the following error might happen when publishing to the server through Eclipse Indigo?: "exception: java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException"
[22:22:17] <hemna> question regarding plugin development.   I have a few plugins that need to share images....what's the best way to share them instead of having dupe copies in each plugin?
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[22:27:49] <mpiggott> caseyburk: Just a suggestion: Might need to specify publishing with what
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[23:39:53] <bowmanjj> is it possible to do a bare-bones install of eclipse? i don't want all the stuff that comes with the jdt package
[23:43:56] <ron> I think you can just download equinox.
[23:44:21] <nitind> Or the Platform Runtime.
[23:45:46] <bowmanjj> maybe i should explain more.  basically, i want to develop java but i have an old computer so i don't want mylyn (and maybe some of the other extras that the jdt comes with).  would equinox/platform runtime be a lot of extra work to set up?
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[23:47:29] <ron> well, the java package doesn't come with too many plugins, so I don't think it should matter that much.
[23:47:46] <bowmanjj> i think you're underestimating the oldness of my computer
[23:47:58] <ron> how old is it?
[23:48:06] <bowmanjj> p4 2.53ghz, 512 mb ram
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[23:48:33] <ron> well, even without the additional plugins you'll have a hard time running eclipse.
[23:48:38] <bowmanjj> ugh
[23:49:12] <ron> mostly because of the low ram.
[23:49:21] <bowmanjj> yeah, i know that's the issue
[23:49:41] <ron> you might want to try a lighter editor.
[23:50:21] <bowmanjj> i've developed with other stuff; learning eclipse was a resume-building thing for me ;)
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[23:50:39] <bowmanjj> thanks for the help
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[23:51:32] <ron> have you tried running it?
[23:53:48] <bowmanjj> yes. it works, but pedestrian actions regularly cause slowdowns and hangs. it probably really is time for a new computer
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[23:56:06] <ron> I hope that you at least run linux on it.
[23:56:14] <bowmanjj> yeah
[23:56:22] <bowmanjj> haven't tried it on windows
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