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[03:10:44] <whoever> hi all, i just installed eclipse and started a project only to realize that there arn't any code assist. is there somethinvg that I am missig here ?
[03:11:59] <paulweb515_> whoever: in java?
[03:12:40] <whoever> paulweb515_: correct
[03:13:18] <paulweb515_> whoever: CTRL+SPACE kicks off a code assist
[03:16:37] <whoever> paulweb515_: i tried that and i get "no definitions" after a . operater , and i am tring this on a JFrame with the name window so window.  does not give me any assist
[03:17:18] <whoever> and it usually would
[03:18:04] <paulweb515_> whoever: normally it should.  What does the JRE lib say (that shows in the root of the project)?
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[03:20:08] <whoever> paulweb515_: it won't open javadoc
[03:21:11] <paulweb515_> whoever: what do you mean?  I'm asking about <project>/JRE Library (or something) what does it show in the package explorer?
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[03:24:31] <whoever> paulweb515_: you mean on the import?
[03:24:56] <whoever> ie_ import javax.swing.
[03:25:05] <paulweb515_> whoever: "started a project"?  Did you create a java project, and what JRE are you pointing to?
[03:26:52] <whoever> paulweb515_: its an existing project that works fine on other system but when I reinstalled ubuntu and then eclipse now eclipse doesn't have code hinting
[03:28:52] <paulweb515_> whoever: anything in the Problems view?
[03:29:19] <paulweb515_> whoever: is the JRE/Java still installed in the same place that your workspace thinks it is?
[03:30:26] <whoever> paulweb515_: let me check on the java/jre, there are only warnings in the problems view
[03:30:53] <whoever> and the warnings are about static and local var references
[03:34:09] <whoever> how do i Check if java/jre is in the place that my workspace thinks
[03:35:18] <paulweb515_> whoever: it should show up in the package explorer, if you expand your java project
[03:35:36] <whoever> i would think it is or my program wouldn't compile and run without it
[03:35:59] <whoever> jre defaults? yah thats there
[03:37:24] <paulweb515_> whoever: OK, if it's just content assist that isn't working, we can look at Preferences>Java>Editor>Content Assist>Advanced
[03:38:04] <paulweb515_> whoever: are the standard proposals checked?  Java Proposals, SWT Template Proposals, Template Proposals?
[03:39:30] <whoever> i had to check java type proposal , and java proposal
[03:40:15] <whoever> should i hit apply and see if it works ?
[03:42:18] <whoever> ok it works now, thanks, any idea how eclipse dicn't have those two checked?
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[04:04:51] <ivan_> hello there... is there a way to run the eclipse executable in a way that desktop environments such as windows 7 shell and gnome 3 will be able to pin the application in the task manager?
[04:05:09] <ivan_> running eclipse.exe or linux's eclipse binary won't work
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[05:52:42] <paulweb515_> whoever: sometimes if you install or uninstall a feature (like mylyn) it can effect those 2
[05:52:51] <paulweb515_> whoever: but in general, they're checked *on* by default
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[08:12:01] <rethus> i have a webproject where some patches out... how can i add easy use such a patch (http://www.oscommerce.info/confluence/display/OSCOM23/%28A%29+%28SEC%29+Administration+Tool+Log-In+Update#%28A%29%28SEC%29AdministrationToolLog-InUpdate-catalog%2Fadmin%2Fincludes%2Fapplicationtop.php) in eclipse?
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[08:20:26] <SkyFlyer> I'm trying to get the protocol git+ssh to show up so I can push stuff back?  no list of it any ideas how to get that ?
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[10:12:32] <xeno_> hi, noticed that 3.7.1M1 was supposed to be out... is it useable at all, and where can I download it?
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[10:26:09] <ron> ~downloads
[10:26:09] <Arbalest> Looking for a specific Eclipse version? - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#Where_can_I_get_Eclipse.3F - http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/ - http://archive.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/
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[10:54:51] <bloony> is there a pydev irc chanel somewhere? On another network maybe?
[10:57:33] <ron> I doubt it.
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[11:02:51] <bloony> Is it possible to "find all references" for a function like you can in visual studio?
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[11:08:33] <iXeno> yeah, ctrl-shift-g, I think is the binding (iirc, they're in my fingers)
[11:09:39] <maynard> hey, some noobish question :) how can i get a reference to a view programatically?
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[11:10:17] <maynard> i know the class, but i dont know how to get it's id
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[11:50:46] <bloony> iXeno: ah thanks.. :)
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[11:58:00] <jengab90> Hello
[11:58:14] <jengab90> Is here anyone experienced in remote debugging?
[11:58:33] <jink> ~anyone
[11:58:38] <jink> Heh. :)
[11:58:41] <jink> Silly bot. ^__^
[11:58:56] <jink> Changes are that someone is.  Just ask your question and be patient.
[11:59:01] <jink> Chances* even.
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[11:59:29] <jengab90> ok,so I am trying to debug a part of LibreOffice
[11:59:44] <jengab90> it's a java code that runs the wizard there
[11:59:52] <jengab90> and I need to debug this java code
[12:00:05] <jengab90> I set up LO to listen on port 8000
[12:00:12] <jengab90> I can connect by eclipse
[12:00:19] <jengab90> even, I see source files
[12:00:26] <jengab90> and I can insert breakpoint
[12:00:33] <jengab90> the execution stops there
[12:00:53] <jengab90> but I only can see global variables,and no local variables
[12:01:21] <jengab90> eclipse complains about the context of my wokspace
[12:01:26] <jengab90> so, what's the problem?
[12:01:52] <jengab90> it seems that context is ok,as I can see sources in debug window
[12:02:07] <jengab90> and also static/class level variables
[12:02:34] <jengab90> but I cannot get it to show me the local variables of a function
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[12:54:46] <GeorgeJ> Does anyone know of a plugin to eclipse that can handle folding regions of my code as VS does? I'm looking for an alternative to #region.
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[13:33:58] <rcjsuen> I think there used to be such a plug-in for Java.
[13:34:01] <rcjsuen> Well, assuming you're doing Java.
[13:36:21] <Sembiance> rcjsuen: well, I spoke too soon. The binary version of eclipse works, loads a workspace, etc. but after about 6 minutes, it hard crashes. Like, POOF. Gone.
[13:36:51] <Sembiance> rcjsuen: consistently, each time I load it, lasts a few minutes then crashes. I'm launching from the command line with ./eclipse  but it doesn't give me a stack trace or anything. very odd.
[13:37:28] <GeorgeJ> I am doing java, yeah. And I found the plugin, jujst came here to see if any of you know of an alternative, that plugin seems to be dead
[13:41:13] <rcjsuen> Sembiance: There might be an hs_err_pid log file somewhere, look for it.
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[13:42:09] <Sembiance> rcjsuen: yup found it.
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[13:46:14] <mmarsella> Anyone know if you can start the pydev debugger from command line?
[13:47:57] <Sembiance> rcjsuen: saw a reference to xulrunner. gave me flashbacks to the last time I tried running binary eclipse under linux. Just located this bug: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=340998
[13:48:14] <Sembiance> rcjsuen: adding the -Dorg.eclipse.swt.browser.XULRunnerPath=/usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-2.0/  seems to have fixed it.... so far :)
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[14:05:44] <Sembiance> well, I now seem to have a stable, crash-free, eclipse. Good thing I only use Eclipse for Java and C/C++ work. All my cutting edge javascript work is done with a different editor.
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[14:43:03] <nitind> Sembiance: Very oblique mentions of JS at the end there.
[14:43:46] <theresajayne> My netbeans just updated and all my plugins are now not working
[14:44:31] <theresajayne> including JPA SPring Junit J2EE Bugzilla , java navigation, se platform JAX-WS et al
[14:45:34] <theresajayne> so now i cant program at all, no Java php C++ support at all
[14:45:41] <theresajayne> and it was an automated update
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[14:46:57] <theresajayne> so eclipse is a no go, netbeans is dead and idea doesnt work,   is this a plot to stop people programming java
[14:48:06] <nitind> theresajayne: Weren't you just having issues installing addons from Spring?  As in the base was already working?
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[14:50:35] <Sembiance> nitind: well, the javascript support in Eclipse is kinda lacking. First, it's a "copy-paste" of the JDT code, then just re-named. Problem is, they copy-pasted code from several years ago. So multiple bugs that have been fixed in the JDT version of that code over the years, remain in the JSDT code because it hasn't really been updated
[14:51:18] <Sembiance> nitind: There was bug in particular that DROVE ME CRAZY. So much so that I actually pulled down the JSDT code and spent several nights attempting to fix it myself (as I have created Eclipse plugins in the past)
[14:51:55] <nitind> Sembiance: Being the current JSDT lead, I kind of know that.  And was that the auto-edit bug regarding curly braces>
[14:51:58] <nitind> ?
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[14:53:53] <Sembiance> nitind: yes. It Drove me CRAZY. I ended up using a regular text editor (Sublime Text 2) for all my JS/CSS development now
[14:54:07] <Sembiance> nitind: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=331501
[14:54:40] <Sembiance> nitind: I mean, I have used Aptana in the past, but it has horrible horrible performance problems and hasn't been updated in many many years. I really really wanted to just use Eclipse JSDT for my JS work, but that bug defeated me
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[14:55:38] <Sembiance> nitind: It sounds like maybe your JSDT team doesn't have enough coders on it :)
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[14:56:25] <nitind> Sembiance: I can't magic up more people, and as you saw, there's a level of complexity to even understanding what it's doing in the first place before you try to change something.
[14:57:30] <nitind> When we do get patches, though, we try to look at them pretty quickly.
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[14:59:46] <Sembiance> nitind: I certainly understand the dilemma. I really do sympathize. When I was in there, trying to fix the bug, I was astonished at how demoralized I felt after a few nights of banging my head against the code only to have not been able to solve it. It's the first time in a VERY long time (perhaps ever) that I've given up trying to tackle a coding problem. It still gets me all emotional today when I talk about it
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[15:01:07] <nitind> Sembiance: I have some idea of how to attack that one, as the differences between our formatting code and the modern JDT formatter aren't that different.  With some luck, it'll make 3.3.1.
[15:01:11] <Sembiance> nitind: I've been pretty happy in Sublime Text 2. It does formatting the way I like it, and it syntax highlights well and has support for some more cutting-edge languages (stylus, coffeescript, handlebars, dust.js, etc) and above all, it's easily extensible
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[15:03:05] <Sembiance> nitind: No worries, about the bug. I love using Eclipse for my Java and C/C++ development work and I'm happy enough with Sublime for ms JS/CSS/HTML work.  I do appreciate your work though. The Eclipse JavaScript support many years ago was in a pretty sorry state, I was VERY impressed with how far it has came when I saw either eclipse 3.3, 3.4 or 3.5 (don't remember exactly which version it improved greatly)
[15:03:58] <rcjsuen> Sembiance: Open source is usually understaffed. :)
[15:05:31] <Sembiance> rcjsuen: aye :)
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[15:23:02] <soc> hi
[15:23:13] <soc> may i ask a m2e-realted question here?
[15:23:45] <soc> eclipse can't seem to find the dependencies defined in the pom files, leading to hundreds of errors in the "problems" tab
[15:25:12] <soc> i got said that adding the libraries manually to the "eclipse buildpath" as the popup suggests is not the right way, and i should add the "M2ECLISPE thing" to the build path which would hold all my dependencies defined in the poms
[15:25:19] <soc> but i don't know how to do that
[15:26:34] <soc> can someone help me?
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[15:32:35] <mpiggott> soc: Right click project, Configure > Maven.   If you don't see that your project is already configured with m2e or you don't have it installed.
[15:33:02] <soc> mpiggott: yes, it is laready installed
[15:33:06] <soc> and configured
[15:33:30] <soc> but it seems that eclipse doesn't even look at the pom files o figure out the dependencies
[15:33:54] <soc> or at least the dependencies are not mode avalibale to the editor component, making the whol code red
[15:34:36] <mpiggott> soc: m2e calculates dependencies just like maven does.  Make sure you have your settings configured for the repositories, proxy, etc.
[15:34:50] <soc> yes, the project will compile
[15:35:00] <soc> but the editor runs amok
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[15:37:17] <mpiggott> The editor doesn't deal with dependencies, though iirc it is the location that m2e reports missing dependencies.
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[15:38:08] <soc> i can get most of the errors fixed by manually adding the required libraries from the .m2 folder to the buildpath
[15:38:18] <soc> but i guess that's hardly the correct solution
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[15:40:10] <mpiggott> Yep, see the previous suggestion that your settings.xml doesn't contain the proper repositories or proxy configuration. (Maybe make sure in the Eclipse preferences it is looking at the file you expect)
[15:40:54] <soc> a hok
[15:40:56] <soc> i'll check
[15:41:04] <soc> i thought you meant the pom.xml
[15:42:27] <soc> http://pastebin.com/GXuqY8kW
[15:44:50] <soc> any ideas?
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[15:51:26] <bas> hi, i'm trying to determine whether i should go for the 64bit or 32bit version of eclipse. i'm running os x lion without a 64 bit kernel (non-pro macbook) but i *do* have a 64 bit java 1.6... i'm trying to understand what version would work/is best
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[15:51:46] <nitind> 64-bit.
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[15:51:55] <rcjsuen> 64-bit gets more usage/testing nowadays I would think.
[15:52:15] <Michael> Do you guys know of any plugin/feature/whatever that will let me run an external program on a buffer when I save?
[15:52:23] <Sami345> bas, then it shouldn't be possible for you to run 64-bit Java, if you are not running a 64-bit OS
[15:52:25] <Michael> phpcs for php, jslint for javascript etc
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[15:53:33] <Sami345> I don't know about mac but atleast in Windows, you can't run 64-bit programs on 32-bit Windows
[15:56:51] <nitind> It's a little different with OSX, but you still have to match the Eclipse and Java versions.
[15:57:04] <soc> Sami345: mac has this kernel/userland division in the last version
[15:57:14] <Michael> Any way to run an external tool on save, based on the file type?
[15:57:15] <bas> yeah, that's the part i don't get either. system profiler reports 64 bit kernel extension as disabled and uname -a also doesnt report anything that i'm running a 64 bit kernel
[15:57:18] <soc> but architectures for eclipse and java have to match
[15:57:19] <bas> java runs fine though
[15:59:01] <Michael> Any way to run an external tool on save, based on the file type?
[15:59:12] <bas> soc: userland emulates 64 while the kernel is running in 32 or sth?
[15:59:15] <mpiggott> soc: That isn't your maven settings.xml
[15:59:27] <Michael> Is this the official eclipse channel?
[15:59:48] <soc> mpiggott: i thought you meant the eclipse settings
[16:00:00] <soc> how does the maven settings file have to look like?
[16:00:53] <mpiggott> soc: http://maven.apache.org/settings.html
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[16:03:42] <soc> mpiggott: yes, mine seems to work
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[16:50:48] <mastro> hi, using Egit, how do I see the *diff* of the file I'm staging / committing ?
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[16:51:21] <mastro> (i'm used to the command line and need to teach user to *look* at what they are committing _before_ committing it)
[16:54:52] <rcjsuen> 'Git Staging' view might help you.
[17:00:43] <nbf> I really meant firing the incumbents
[17:00:51] <nbf> hey wrong irc channel
[17:00:57] <nbf> nice to see you again
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[17:12:05] <adietisheim> hi! any egit committer around?
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[17:12:44] <rcjsuen> adietisheim: Why do you ask?
[17:13:10] <adietisheim> rcjsuen: have troubles getting all 3rd party deps. odd error. was wondering what jetty version was required
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[17:13:31] <rcjsuen> adietisheim: You mean you checked out the code from Git?
[17:13:34] <adietisheim> rcjsuen: according to manifest [7.x,8.x)
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[17:14:01] <adietisheim> rcjsuen: yup, exactly
[17:14:15] <rcjsuen> Then I'd expect you just pick one at will.
[17:14:35] <adietisheim> rcjsuen: did that by installing from the jetty update site. but somehow I still miss util-classes
[17:15:14] <rcjsuen> I'm not sure installing from the update site would be the same.
[17:16:04] <adietisheim> rcjsuen: so I need to get the sources? odd enough they're not included in the psf
[17:16:12] <rcjsuen> Their PSF was outdated months ago.
[17:16:15] <rcjsuen> I imagine it still is. :)
[17:16:38] <adietisheim> rcjsuen: oh, ok, so that would explain it. so I shall get the jetty sources?
[17:16:49] <rcjsuen> That's what I would try to do.
[17:16:57] <adietisheim> rcjsuen: ok, will do. thanks!
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[17:17:18] <rcjsuen> And I think jetty is on Git now.
[17:17:20] <rcjsuen> So psf wouldn't even work.
[17:17:27] <rcjsuen> Well, I guess you'd get the read-only stuff.
[17:17:46] <adietisheim> rcjsuen: hmm, ok, checking if I get their repo url then and clone
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[17:24:44] <adietisheim> rcjsuen: hmm, weird. fetched their (jetty) zipped update site and found the missing class in the util-jar that is included. hmm, i wonder...
[17:25:35] <adietisheim> rcjsuen: furthermore util-jar seems installed (present in the plug-in registry)... hmm
[17:25:54] <rcjsuen> Is the version okay though?
[17:26:24] <adietisheim> rcjsuen: it's 7.5, shoulld match your range [7.x,8.x)
[17:26:45] <rcjsuen> Sounds like it anyway.
[17:27:10] <adietisheim> rcjsuen: actually the prob I have is in org.eclipse.jgit.junit.http which imports:  org.eclipse.jetty.util.component;version="[7.1.0,8.0.0)",
[17:27:23] <adietisheim> rcjsuen: which I have, no error marker on the manifest
[17:28:09] <adietisheim> rcjsuen: but the class TestRequestLog does not want to compile, complains about missing AggregateLifeCyle
[17:28:28] <adietisheim> rcjsuen: and I can find this class in the util-jar that I have installed.. .weird weird
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[17:30:47] <adietisheim> rcjsuen: weird, seems like the jetty util plugin is installed but disabled
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[17:39:19] <adietisheim> rcjsuen: hum, jetty is on git, features maven (non-eclipse) projects. do you guys really work with the jetty sources?
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[17:43:23] <adietisheim> rcjsuen: ok, error in jgit sources is gone when i imported the maven project jetty-util from source
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[17:46:12] <rcjsuen> ah
[17:46:16] <rcjsuen> Thank you for the info.
[17:46:28] <rcjsuen> adietisheim: Personally I also had problems getting a dev env setup with their test bundles ;o
[17:48:41] <ringlej_> I installed Eclipse CDT on galileo on ubuntu 10.04. I created a C project and need to set custom build steps. but I only have "Binary Parsers" and "Error Parsers" tabs in the project's C/C++ Build/Settings. "Tool Settings", "Build Steps" and "Build Artifacts" are missing
[17:49:57] <adietisheim> rcjsuen: ok ;) was quite a fight. guess should tell them. will try to ping'em
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[17:56:21] <mastro> rcjsuen, I'm looking everywhere in git staging view but I don't see any way of visualizing the *diff* of each file
[17:56:49] <rcjsuen> mastro: so you want a +/- diff not the compar eeditor?
[17:56:59] <herlimenezes> Hi, I got this http://pastebin.com/79tCS4w6 exception from Eclipse Helios. What am I supposed to do?
[17:59:12] <mastro> rcjsuen, yes... the compare editor would be something useful for a single file (but I don't see how to open it within the git staging) I want to see ALL the +/- diff I'm gonna commit / stage
[17:59:23] <herlimenezes> this exception was issued from JFace plugin. However I am running an application that does not use jface.
[17:59:25] <rcjsuen> mastro: you just double-click it will open the editor
[17:59:36] <rcjsuen> and no you can't do +/- diff while you're still staging
[18:01:01] <mastro> rcjsuen, that's a big *don't use it* against egit and in favor of the command line... anyway thanks
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[18:01:27] <rcjsuen> mastro: File an enhancement request.
[18:01:48] <herlimenezes> As I try to run any application, I got this error: org/eclipse/ui/internal/navigator/NavigatorPipelineService$4
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[18:04:01] <mastro> rcjsuen, I will
[18:04:30] <rcjsuen> herlimenezes: are you running an Eclipse RCP app?
[18:05:22] <herlimenezes> RCP?
[18:05:35] <herlimenezes> Rich Client?
[18:05:49] <rcjsuen> Close your 'Project Explorer' if you have it open.
[18:06:10] <herlimenezes> ok, I did
[18:06:13] <rcjsuen> tho hard to say if that'll be the end of your worries
[18:06:20] <rcjsuen> in any case I doubt there's anything you can do here
[18:06:39] <nbf> has the renaming of RCP gotten any farther?
[18:06:56] <nbf> I hope it's not going to be like "CloudDev"
[18:08:04] <herlimenezes> I am running a J2EE web application. As matter of fact it is very unstable...eclipse "forgets" some configurations. Applications running ok, does not work if the system is restarted...so I am completely lost...
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[18:10:01] <herlimenezes> rcjsuen: I am getting this warning too: "Setting property 'source' to 'org.eclipse.jst.jee.server:compObjA' did not find a matching property"
[18:10:13] <herlimenezes> compObjA is my application.
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[18:27:29] <SkyFlyer> anyway to hide some of the projects I have on the navigator window?  I have about 30 there and only want to focus on one, but it's annoying when I have to scroll and the others are there and i get confused.  I don't want to close them, just hide them! ? any idea
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[18:36:19] <gamingdroid> anyone have any idea how to open a .html file in a text editor instead of the browser that by default pops up?
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[18:43:33] <multiHYP> hi everybody.
[18:46:42] <nbf> when I generate paint events, should the x/y values in the event object be relative to the canvas/composite's parent or what?
[18:46:48] <nbf> this is for an SWT implementation
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[18:52:30] <nbf> oh snap it's an offset ;)
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[18:56:00] <herlimenezes> Well, excuse me for boggling you. New crash: http://pastebin.com/LSDD10Cf.
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[19:05:00] <rcjsuen> SkyFlyer: I'd just use working sets to group them instead.
[19:06:39] <multiHYP> rcjsuen: how are you doing?
[19:06:46] <multiHYP> long time no see :)
[19:11:20] <rcjsuen> ello
[19:11:41] <nitind> herlimenezes: http://pastebin.com/79tCS4w6 indicates that your installation is broken somehow.  NoClassDefFoundErrors are unusual.
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[19:12:16] <nitind> gamingdroid: Try the file's Open With context menu.
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[19:13:52] <gamingdroid> nitind: unfortunately, I use the File->Open File option... it doesn't give me a context menu.
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[19:17:52] <nitind> gamingdroid: You can try adjusting defaults from the File Associations preference page, or create a plain file in the workspace but use the advanced section of the wizard page to point its location at the file you're trying to open.  Then you'll be able to use the context menu.
[19:20:15] <gamingdroid> nitind: the file association worked! it was just so hidden I couldn't find it. Any clue on a good html editor for eclipse?
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[19:22:12] <nitind> gamingdroid: You could start with ~wtp .  I'm not sure it's everything you're looking for, though.
[19:22:12] <Arbalest> Check out Eclipse's Web Tools Platform - http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/ - It includes tools for working with XML files, web pages, Java EE artifacts, and much more.
[19:25:13] <gamingdroid> I'm looking for an update/add link for webtools, is there one?
[19:25:27] <gamingdroid> nitind: Just basic html editing with syntax highlight
[19:26:36] <nitind> gamingdroid: If you're using Helios or Indigo, it's available from those sites.
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[19:28:01] <gamingdroid> nitind: I'm using 3.5.2 so it looks like galileo
[19:28:33] <nitind> gamingdroid: That should work fine as well, but really if you can update to Indigo, you should.
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[19:29:45] <gamingdroid> nitind: I can try, but honestly updating anything on centos is painful for me. I am a windows users and normally I would just delete the dir and replace... done!
[19:30:37] <nitind> gamingdroid: If you're using downloads from eclipse.org, it's basically the same process regardless of O.S.
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[19:35:31] <herlimenezes> nitind: sorry I was reading about this error. How can I repair it?
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[19:36:13] <nitind> herlimenezes: Which one?
[19:37:25] <herlimenezes> nitind: you told me something is broken. But I dont know how to repair instalation..besides of this, I am a bit afraid because there is a work in progress...
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[19:37:56] <nitind> herlimenezes: As long as you don't delete the workspace, you'll probably be fine.
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[19:39:05] <herlimenezes> nitind: may be the problem arouse from a frustrated tentative of using JSF in order to accelerate the work...
[19:39:41] <herlimenezes> I will give a look at...
[19:42:05] <cbeck> I'm encountering an error when attempting to start helios on 64bit natty linux: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/456085 I've found a number of people with the same problem, but no solution yet.  Any ideas?
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[19:42:51] <rcjsuen> cbeck: I doubt you can recover from that error.
[19:43:12] <rcjsuen> Did you just download Eclipse and tried to start it?
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[19:43:18] <cbeck> rcjsuen: Yes
[19:43:31] <rcjsuen> maybe checksum the file
[19:43:41] <cbeck> 3.5.2 was working fine, but I plugin I need desires 3.6
[19:43:55] <cbeck> I nuked workspace and .eclipse, same issue
[19:44:16] <nitind> cbeck: And where did 3.6 come into it?
[19:44:29] <cbeck> nitind: Not sure what you mean
[19:44:41] <nitind> cbeck: You didn't mention getting/installing 3.6.
[19:44:47] <rcjsuen> ~info
[19:44:47] <Arbalest> Please state a) your CPU architecture (x86, 64-bit, etc.), b) operating system (Windows, Linux, OSX, etc.), c) your Java runtime environment (please verify by checking your ~logs or in the about dialog's ~jre section. No, typing 'java -version' in the command line does not count as checking), d) your Eclipse version, and e) where did you get Eclipse from (eclipse.org, distro repository, etc.).
[19:44:48] <cbeck> Ah, sorry
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[19:45:39] <gamingdroid> Trying to update eclipse via the update manager (after adding the site http://download.eclipse.org/releases/indigo/), I get errors about conflicting dependencies. However, eclipse was the one trying to figure it out?
[19:47:05] <cbeck> Arbalest: I'm not sure what you mean by ~logs or ~jre
[19:47:05] <Arbalest> Looking for your Eclipse logs? The workspace log should be located at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. In Eclipse, try Help > About > Installation Details > Configuration and then choose "View Error Log". If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[19:47:05] <Arbalest> Please check what your Java runtime environment is and get back to us - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#How_do_I_find_out_which_Java_runtime_environment_is_being_used_to_run_my_Eclipse.3F
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[19:48:44] <cbeck> Arbalest: I'd love to, but eclipse doesn't start
[19:49:09] <rcjsuen> cbeck: Answer the other questions, like E.
[19:49:13] <cbeck> The error dump reports 1.6.0_26
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[19:49:53] <nitind> gamingdroid: You're starting with an Eclipse downloaded from eclipse.org, right?  Otherwise, what conflicting dependencies?
[19:50:13] <cbeck> Ah, sorry.  Was from distro repository, specificly eclipse-team's PPA
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[19:50:26] <rcjsuen> cbeck: Check with #eclipse-linux then.
[19:50:39] <cbeck> Will do
[19:50:47] <nitind> What's "eclipse-team's PPA" anyway?
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[19:50:58] <rcjsuen> PPA is package something something i think
[19:51:03] <rcjsuen> well, package is somewhere there anyway
[19:51:20] <gamingdroid> nitind: I started with the one provided by centos distro repository. Pastebin of error message: http://pastebin.com/9NRRec0V
[19:51:32] <cbeck> https://launchpad.net/~eclipse-team/+archive/ppa
[19:51:35] <fanno> grrrrr how do i prevent eclipse from going beond heep all the time every time i need to save i freeze
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[20:01:00] <pulse00> hi there
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[20:07:29] <pulse00> i've implemented a AbstractSplashHandler in an RCP app. the splash screen is used for authentication, which is implemented by creating an eventLoop in the init() method. the login logic should be done in a thread, to avoid blocking the UI during authentication. however, when i run display.asyncExec() from the non-ui thread, the run() method of the Runnable is never being called
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[20:07:43] <pulse00> anyone an idea why this would happen in the splash screen?
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[20:08:52] <pulse00> it's basically derived from this example splash handler: http://www.javadocexamples.com/java_source/__/in/InteractiveSplashHandler.java.html
[20:10:06] <mpiggott> gamingdroid: Don't try and upgrade 3.5.2 to 3.7.  Just install 3.7
[20:10:46] <gamingdroid> mpiggott: as in replace 3.5.2?
[20:10:59] <mpiggott> Yes, just download it.
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[20:11:19] <gamingdroid> so what version of eclipse is recommended?
[20:11:33] <gamingdroid> I use it mostly for python and webdevelopment
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[20:12:44] <mpiggott> gamingdroid: I think you'll find most of us use 3.7, but really you'd want to see if the plugins you'll be using are supported
[20:13:58] <gamingdroid> mpiggott: I mean what package of eclipse in the 3.7 series? There are so many, classic (what I used to use), javascript for web devs, ....
[20:14:12] <gamingdroid> mpiggott: sorry if I wasn't clearer
[20:14:20] <mpiggott> cbeck: To my knowledge that is Ubuntu's Eclipse Team, not someone associated with the foundation
[20:14:35] <cbeck> mpiggott: Good to know
[20:14:48] <cbeck> Talking to them in eclipse-linux, danke
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[20:19:22] <mpiggott> gamingdroid: Up to you really, Classic contains a lot of stuff useful if you're working on Eclipse plugins / RCP apps which may or may not be useful
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[20:21:07] <pulse00> should Display.asyncExec() work on a display where sleep() has been called upon?
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[20:22:59] <rcjsuen> Only if it ever got back to readAndDispatch()
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[20:27:22] <pulse00> rcjsuen: i've an interactive splash handler which runs an event loop to block startup until the user has authenticated (event loop: https://gist.github.com/1137687). display.asyncExec()s run() method is not called during this loop, so i guess it's because the display never got back t readAndDispatch(). my problem is, i don't have any idea how to get it back there ;)
[20:29:00] <rcjsuen> It should already be going back.
[20:30:08] <gamingdroid> mpiggott: I took your advice and just downloaded the full on 3.7 and so far so good. I will just run straight from my desktop. special thanks to you and nitind for the help!
[20:30:34] <mpiggott> np
[20:33:33] <pulse00> any other possible reason why the Runnable passed to asyncExec() is not being started?
[20:38:48] <rcjsuen> Did you check that readAndDispatch() is getting called?
[20:38:55] <rcjsuen> (presumably thousands of times)
[20:39:07] <rcjsuen> it'll eventually ask the synchronizer for queued messages and then process it
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[20:41:18] <pulse00> readAndDispatch() is called continously in an infinite loop (until the user is authenticated).
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[20:45:53] <pulse00> rcjsuen: i'm calling display.asyncExec() in a separate thread, but i guess that's it's main purpose... so that shouldnt be the cause of the problem
[20:46:55] <rcjsuen> does it go ask the synchronizer for messageS?
[20:47:31] <pulse00> how can i check that?
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[20:47:46] <pulse00> if it's readAndDispatch(), then yes
[20:48:06] <rcjsuen> it returns early though
[20:49:27] <pulse00> what returns early?
[20:49:30] <rcjsuen> rAD
[20:50:17] <pulse00> sorry, can't follow you. you mean there's a timing problem?
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[20:50:38] <nbf> I'm currently processing async runnables at the top of my readAndDispatch method
[20:50:42] <rcjsuen> I mean just because rAD() gets called doesn't mean the synchronizer is getting queuried
[20:50:48] <nbf> is that correct? it works :)
[20:51:33] <rcjsuen> No, it should be the last thing.
[20:51:54] <nbf> hmm
[20:52:12] <rcjsuen> nbf: check your local swt impl
[20:52:33] <nbf> k, I probably did when I originally did it
[20:52:45] <nbf> but I wrote most of Display earlier this year
[20:53:04] <pulse00> rcjsuen, so how can i make sure the synchronizer is getting queried?
[20:53:34] <rcjsuen> first you should a) figure out if the message is even in the synchronizer
[20:53:45] <rcjsuen> then you can decide if it's even worth bothering checking if it's caleld
[20:53:54] <pulse00> ok, thanks
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[20:55:25] <nbf> keep in mind that it doesn't run it in a separate thread or anything
[20:55:31] <nbf> so if you block, it'll block your whole gui
[20:55:48] <rcjsuen> nbf: You want the OS to be responsive so the asyncs are done when the OS has nothing else to do.
[20:56:06] <nbf> yeah it appears I have a bug and putting it in the beginning of the method
[20:56:15] <nbf> causes eclipse to hang for some reason
[20:56:18] <rcjsuen> otherwise if you think about it asyncs could just keep getting queued
[20:56:26] <nbf> but it works okay with regular SWT apps
[20:56:30] <rcjsuen> and the OS's own messages mouse move/click won't ever return
[20:56:58] <nbf> well in my case I query those messages from the "native" UI
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[20:57:18] <nbf> but you're right, I'm going to have to fix this
[20:57:58] <nbf> I'm sorry processing asyncs before rendering works but putting it after rendering casues a deadlock with eclipse
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[20:58:25] <nbf> it's something in the synchronizer I think
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[20:59:50] <rcjsuen> nbf: Well I'm sure it's working for you by putting it in the front or else you would've fixed this a long time ago ;o
[21:00:06] <nbf> haha yep :)
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[21:00:50] <nbf> I'm lucky with my SWT impl, it must be much more painful for the guys working on gtk, win32, cocoa, etc
[21:01:05] <nbf> because I have complete control over the widgets and how they're rendered on the gpu
[21:01:18] <nbf> so I can patch both SWT and the native ui whenever I want
[21:01:30] <nbf> which kind of makes me lazy too I think :(
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[21:04:40] <pulse00> does each Display maintain its own Synchronizer and MessageQueue ?
[21:04:55] <bsod1_> can anyone help me? I can't build my CDT C project, I created a c file with a main function in it, when I run build all, no executables are created, and I get make: Nothing to be done for `str.c'.
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[21:11:30] <nbf> synchronizer, yes
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[21:12:10] <nbf> not sure about messagequeue off hand
[21:12:29] <rcjsuen> Eventually it should call synchronizer.runAsyncMessages(*)
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[21:12:39] <rcjsuen> if it never gets called, then your runnable would never happen
[21:12:49] <rcjsuen> if it gets called but your runnable is not in the queue, well, that would explain why it's not getting run
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[21:15:47] <nbf> set a breakpoint in the runnable and see if it ever gets hit
[21:16:05] <pulse00> nope, never gets hit. tried that already
[21:17:45] <pulse00> must have something to do with how the SplashHandler works and how i interrupt it. i couldn't find out how to see if the Runnable even gets added to the queue. in my main loop, i can only retrieve the UISynchronizer, and that class has no method for obtaining the messages in the queue
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[21:19:25] <nbf> splashes are handled differently
[21:19:31] <nbf> iirc
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[21:22:08] <pulse00> well, but i accessing the members of the splash from a separate thread are not thread-safe, i'm sure about that...
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[21:28:11] <pulse00> ha! http://pookzilla.net/wp/2008/02/eclipse-33-startup-changes-take-three/ ;)
[21:28:21] <pulse00> DisplayAccess.accessDisplayDuringStartup()  is the key in the SplashHandler
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[21:48:08] <multiHYP> is it worth to rewrite a swt+java project in swt+scala project?
[21:48:27] <ron> define 'worth'
[21:48:48] <multiHYP> any advantageous even in the future to gain?
[21:49:30] <ron> who can say...
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[21:49:46] <multiHYP> swt developers...
[21:50:32] <multiHYP> i don't know, was thinking about it...
[21:50:51] <ron> I seriously doubt swt developers care much about scala.
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[21:56:33] <nbf> scala as like <1% marketshare
[21:56:56] <nbf> my problem with scala is that it tends to invite cryptic code
[21:57:19] <ron> not that each new version requires code updates?
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[22:09:54] <multiHYP> i see
[22:09:58] <multiHYP> you guys have a point
[22:10:22] <multiHYP> but on the up side, i could open source it and nobody could find out what i just programmed!
[22:10:23] <multiHYP> :D
[22:10:30] <ron> :)
[22:10:47] <ron> note that I'm not saying that scala is bad. :)
[22:11:08] <multiHYP> so i can make it open source just like 1000+ lines of linux kernel were made, without the worry that somebody may take and make something else out of it....
[22:11:36] <multiHYP> ron: thats my goal!
[22:11:55] <multiHYP> make it less worrysome to be forked or used elsewhere...
[22:12:09] <ron> then don't open source it...
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[22:12:21] <multiHYP> i kind of have ot
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[22:12:29] <multiHYP> and i also want to
[22:12:49] <multiHYP> except with the intentions described
[22:13:28] <ron> ok...
[22:13:41] <multiHYP> so scala is my friend, huh?
[22:13:51] <ron> not really.
[22:14:31] <multiHYP> what then?
[22:15:10] <ron> there's no real way of doing it.
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[22:16:11] <nitind> of doing what?
[22:16:54] <ron> of obscuring source code so that people won't copy from you.
[22:17:30] <nitind> Why put the sources out, then?
[22:17:53] <ron> because he has to. and he wants to.
[22:17:56] <ron> me shrugs
[22:18:03] <nitind> Then why obscure it?
[22:18:44] <ron> so that people won't copy from you.
[22:19:00] <multiHYP> :D
[22:19:09] <multiHYP> its a vicious circle you see...
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[22:24:36] <devatwork> Hey guys, is there anyway to hide/show all comments in eclipse ?
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[22:25:34] <myusuf3> do the tycho guys have an irc?
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[22:26:25] <ron> devatwork: you can't hide the comments, but you can fold comment blocks.
[22:26:55] <devatwork> ron, yes i am aware of that. Could this be added as a feature
[22:26:55] <devatwork> ?
[22:27:24] <devatwork> For me comments get in the way, but they are helpful none the less.
[22:27:30] <devatwork> Might just look into writing a plugin myself...
[22:27:30] <ron> devatwork: I'm not an eclipse developer. feel free to open a ~bug about it though.
[22:27:30] <Arbalest> Eclipse Bugzilla - Open new bugs and/or enhancement requests https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi / Search for existing bugs and/or enhancement requests https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/query.cgi
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[22:29:40] <nitind> Are they getting in the way or being helpful?
[22:30:19] <devatwork> Well i find code easier to read/work with when comments arent in the way :D
[22:30:31] <devatwork> Might just a write myself a plugin....
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[22:33:46] <littleAdept> hello dear interwebs ... i would like to ask some questions concerning databinding in rcp apps with regards to IObservableValues and DatabindingContextual questions.
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[22:34:31] <littleAdept> i am having a hard time grasping the concept of how the DBC (DatabindingContext) works  together with PojoObservables-Stuff
[22:34:52] <littleAdept> and lately i did an experiment and was rather baffled when observing the results
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[22:35:34] <littleAdept> i am trying to bind a model object to some gui controls via WindowBuilders Databinding-View
[22:36:17] <littleAdept> Using PojoObservable Classes i was able to get an example in which i was able to get the view to display something i set in the model
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[22:36:52] <littleAdept> in the WindowBuilder-Generated Method called "initBindings()" the DBC is set up
[22:37:35] <littleAdept> the only way i was able to display model changes in the view was to again call "initBindings()" after changing the Model
[22:37:55] <littleAdept> which resulted in more and more databindings in the DBC
[22:38:35] <littleAdept> i was not able to get the DBC to react and change the view if my model changed
[22:38:51] <littleAdept> at least not via a call of dbc.updateTargets()
[22:39:42] <littleAdept> so after typing a wall of text i want to try to ask a question ;) ..... where were i going wrong and how would i correctly use this databinding-stuff?
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[22:41:32] <littleAdept> am i having a hard time because i want to use entities without a propertyChangeSupport ? would i be better of if i sprinkle this propChangeSupp into my JPA-Entities?
[22:41:58] <littleAdept> so that i can switch from pojoobservable-classes to "normal" observables?
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