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[05:04:16] <nt-cmplt_> Hey all. I was wondering if I could get some help. Eclipse is crashing on me with a "Application "org.eclipse.ui.ide.workbench" could not be found in the registry" error.
[05:05:04] <nt-cmplt_> Anyone have any ideas?
[05:05:10] <nt-cmplt_> I've been googling but can't really find anything
[05:07:38] <nbf> are you trying to run an RCP app you're developing?
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[05:08:55] <nt-cmplt_> No, I'm just trying to start it up.
[05:09:15] <nt-cmplt_> This is just after installing it from the Fedora repos.
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[05:19:54] <MajorMcDoom> hi guys. my plugin works in Eclipse for Java Developers and Eclipse Classic, but not in Eclipse EE. any idea why? :S
[05:20:12] <MajorMcDoom> by not working, i mean the menu items don't show up, and the shortcut keys don't work.
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[07:33:32] <nt-cmplt_> where does java-1.6.0-openjdk install to by default?
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[07:59:02] <nt-cmplt_> Anyone on that can give me some help?
[07:59:13] <nt-cmplt_> I can't get Eclipse running and I'm becoming very, very frustrated
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[12:42:47] <jjido> how does junit integrate into eclipse? if my code references org.junit do I need to add it to the project packages?
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[13:00:02] <ron> is there any way to show only the class members in the outline?
[13:00:52] <ron> also, is there a way to see all inherited class members as well?
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[13:49:04] <rcjsuen_> ron: Not in the 'Outline', no.
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[13:58:49] <ron> rcjsuen_: anywhere else?
[13:59:18] <rcjsuen_> Quick Outline you can
[14:00:27] <ron> I can see the inherited, but can't filter out the members only.
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[14:33:21] <Azareth> hi all
[14:34:15] <Azareth> when I ctrl+click on a class name it opens the class in new editor but i I do it again in the new editor it reuses it. How can I set it to open new editor every time?
[14:34:31] <rcjsuen> I don't have that problem.
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[14:39:15] <Azareth> it was working different on my previous eclispe installation
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[14:47:01] <ron> yup, opens in a new editor for me as well.
[14:53:12] <Azareth> I had the same problem with the search results and find a checkbox that fixed it but can not find the one for this
[14:53:23] <Azareth> not sure even what is the word for it )))
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[14:53:41] <rcjsuen> you can have search/compare editors "reuse editors"
[14:53:45] <rcjsuen> but that shouldn't be an option for F3
[14:53:50] <tapas> hi, i have checked out an eclipse project from git. now i'd like to open it :D
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[14:54:06] <tapas> i set eclipse's workspace to be the directory containing the .project, etc..
[14:54:12] <tapas> seems to be wrong..
[14:54:24] <tapas> [eclipse noob here]
[14:54:40] <rcjsuen> Yes, that is wrong.
[14:54:42] <rcjsuen> workspace != project
[14:54:52] <tapas> cause the project->open project toggle is still greyed out..
[14:54:53] <tapas> ok
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[14:55:29] <tapas> so i need to import that project into my workspace first?
[14:55:38] <tapas> how can i make sure git then still works, etc..
[14:57:06] <rcjsuen> I guess that depends on whether you want to use Git from Eclipse or not.
[14:57:23] <tapas> nah i'm content with using cmdline git.. j
[14:57:36] <rcjsuen> then just import the proj
[14:57:41] <tapas> the question is though: can i import the project into my workspace without everything being copied over?
[14:57:44] <tapas> ok
[14:59:08] <tapas> hm
[14:59:46] <rcjsuen> Yes
[15:00:29] <tapas> ok, i chose import->existing project, selected the root dir and it seems it went fine.. stil no projects in the project menu
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[15:01:05] <rcjsuen> Projects don't show up in the 'Project' menu.
[15:01:13] <tapas> or rather: "open project" is still greyed out
[15:01:21] <rcjsuen> When it is imported it is opened...
[15:01:37] <tapas> ah got it.. i just had to "go to workbench"
[15:01:37] <tapas> thanks
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[15:04:52] <Azareth> ignore my problem from before, I was only in my head )))
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[15:34:13] <_nor> hey, how can I copy all the open files and stuff from one mylyn task to another? Clone doesnt work.
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[15:47:53] <myusuf3_> rcjsuen, where can I find the requirements that emf needs
[15:47:57] <myusuf3_> system level requirements
[15:48:07] <rcjsuen> I doubt they list it
[15:48:11] <rcjsuen> they probably just say "need java 5"
[15:48:17] <myusuf3_> i moved to another machine and it worked
[15:48:25] <myusuf3_> so the only place where it doesn't.
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[15:49:40] <myusuf3_> is the server where I have it deployed.
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[15:50:25] <myusuf3_> rcjsuen, http://wiki.eclipse.org/EMF_Build_Server_Setup#Install_via_apt-get could the requirements listen here be invovled
[15:50:39] <rcjsuen> tthat's a build server
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[15:51:18] <myusuf3_> yeah
[15:51:26] <myusuf3_> i am grasping at straws here
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[15:51:46] <myusuf3_> any idea where I can get hold of emf guys
[15:51:54] <rcjsuen> ask on the forums
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[16:06:54] <myusuf3_> thanks rcjsuen
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[16:18:22] <myusuf3_> come one, come all
[16:18:23] <myusuf3_> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/m/704343/#msg_704343
[16:22:17] <ron> rcjsuen: eclipse offers only JAX-WS wizards? nothing for JAX-RS?
[16:30:33] <rcjsuen> ron: Sorry, not familiar with that stuff.
[16:31:51] <ron> rcjsuen: thanks anyways.
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[17:13:40] <rcjsuen> http://mreinhold.org/blog/jdk7-ga
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[17:17:38] <ron> \o/
[17:19:44] <ron> okay, the JAX-RS support is definitely funky.
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[17:28:36] <nbf> java 7 is out
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[17:43:59] <Kingsy> guys, I have just install eclipse with apt-get install eclipse-platform , however I want to use this for web development, so I am guessing I need the pdt plugin ?
[17:50:17] <rcjsuen> pdt would let you edit php, if that's what you want
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[17:53:00] <Kingsy> rcjsuen: yeah I installed it, so now I can open a php perspective
[17:53:27] <Kingsy> rcjsuen: I have also install xdebug on my server (my php config says its installed) how do I get that working with eclipse?
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[17:54:54] <rcjsuen> I don't do PHP. No comment.
[17:55:21] <Kingsy> np
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[17:57:30] <Kingsy> rcjsuen: one other thing, when creating a new project from an existing source, what does it mean when it says "cant create project content in workspace" ? is that permissions?
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[17:57:51] <rcjsuen> I've seen people mention that error but I don't know what it means.
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[17:59:41] <Kingsy> hmm
[18:01:18] <Kingsy> is it not a bit of a flaw that if you want to have a project, you need to have the source files in one folder and a direct copy of that in your workspace?
[18:01:28] <Kingsy> what happens if your project was 2GB in size?
[18:01:53] <Kingsy> rcjsuen: ^^
[18:01:55] <rcjsuen> That is not a requirement.
[18:02:17] <rcjsuen> and please don't keep messaging me :)
[18:02:18] <Kingsy> but you cant have the source file folder inside of the workspace folder right?
[18:02:26] <Kingsy> ah ok sorry
[18:03:02] <rcjsuen> I don't think I've ever tried doing workspace/src/ as that seems like a strange pattern.
[18:03:46] <Kingsy> well I am out of time, I will figure this out 2morrow
[18:03:49] <Kingsy> thanks for the help
[18:03:50] <Kingsy> laters
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[18:10:20] <adar> hey folks, could someone please point me to some tutorial where implementing an eclipse rcp editor is explained ... i am kinda stuck with getting a "recent files" menu shown
[18:10:46] <rcjsuen> adar: Does your IEditorInput return 'true' for exists?
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[18:11:09] <rcjsuen> I think it also needs to be persistable.
[18:11:30] <adar> uh, dunno, gotta check it
[18:11:47] <adar> i didn't implement it :) but one of my colleagues
[18:11:47] <rcjsuen> adar: Do you have a custom editor input?
[18:11:52] <rcjsuen> okay that answered that
[18:11:55] <adar> yepp
[18:12:40] <adar> i thought there is some nice extensive tutorial to learn from :) but i just found the ones of mr. vogel
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[18:14:48] <adar> hm, exists returns false ... what does that mean?
[18:15:05] <rcjsuen> well if it doesn't exist
[18:15:08] <rcjsuen> no reason to show in that list
[18:15:17] <rcjsuen> (if you catch my drift)
[18:15:20] <adar> :) k
[18:16:23] <rcjsuen> adar: org.eclipse.ui.internal.EditorHistory.refresh()
[18:16:25] <adar> getPersistable is returning null ... but i have an "readonly" editor, so that is okay?
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[18:16:58] <adar> refresh what? :) cant follow
[18:17:10] <rcjsuen> that code explains why your input doesn't show
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[18:18:01] <rcjsuen> getPersistable isn't related to whether something is read-only or not.
[18:18:07] <Onepamopa> java7 is out boys ;)
[18:18:08] <rcjsuen> In this case you can return null I don't think it matters.
[18:19:30] <adar> still no difference :(
[18:20:23] <rcjsuen> adar: You changed exists() to return true?
[18:20:41] <adar> i do a reEdit= ContributionItemFactory.REOPEN_EDITORS.create(window);  in the ApplicationActionBarAdvisor::makeActions
[18:20:44] <adar> yes
[18:21:05] <adar> and in ApplicationActionBarAdvisor::fillMenuBar
[18:21:18] <adar> i have this         MenuManager viewsMenu = new MenuManager("&Open View", "views");
[18:21:32] <adar>         menuBar.add(viewsMenu);
[18:21:37] <rcjsuen> look in org.eclipse.ui.internal.ReopenEditorMenu.fill(Menu, int) to see if your editor input is there
[18:21:46] <rcjsuen> tho i hope you're not on Linux
[18:21:58] <adar> because?
[18:22:07] <rcjsuen> because that means you can't use breakpoints :)
[18:22:19] <adar> :) unfortunately i am on win
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[18:28:55] <adar> cool :) it appears
[18:29:06] <adar> but how can i make that persistent?
[18:29:36] <adar> is there some "official way"?
[18:30:27] <rcjsuen> Not sure I understand.
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[18:31:35] <adar> i want to have a recent file list after i restarted my editor
[18:32:53] <rcjsuen> You mean restarted your application?
[18:32:59] <adar> yes
[18:33:07] <rcjsuen> Then your getPersistable() needs to return something.
[18:33:33] <adar> uhm, anything? or something special?
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[18:33:54] <rcjsuen> well, preferably something that actually implements the interface correctly :)
[18:34:48] <adar> :D
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[18:37:13] <adar> argh :) now i need to implement some kind of factory?
[18:39:45] <rcjsuen> To answer your question, yes.
[18:40:36] <adar> since it is just a readonly editor ... i save the path in the memento
[18:40:56] <adar> and then implement a factory that simply reloads the file, right?
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[18:41:32] <rcjsuen> you save something in the memento
[18:41:39] <rcjsuen> (in this case) the factory reads the memento, and returns back the IEditorInput
[18:42:31] <adar> ok, i look into it tomorrow ... my wife kills me if i dont come home :D
[18:42:44] <rcjsuen> adar: But you are on the right track
[18:42:44] <adar> thanks for the help ... that was a kick start :)
[18:42:49] <rcjsuen> adar: bye
[18:43:02] <adar> rcjsuen: cya :)
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[18:58:09] <anli__> Seems like if I cut a text portion and try to paste it again, all I get is two spaces, its not the same if I copy and paste
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[18:58:55] <anli__> hm, wrong, seems like copy+paste did that too now
[18:59:08] <anli__> I use the pdt plugin (php development)
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[19:29:11] <myusuf3_> anyone? http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/m/704481/#msg_704481
[19:29:22] <myusuf3_> emf guys are very good at pushing blame
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[19:32:42] <rcjsuen> fyi Ed Merks is the EMF lead so I don't think putting him down is a good idea :)
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[19:36:55] <mpiggott> Ha, "Just a quick reminder that early Saturday morning (Eastern time), July 28, I'll be replacing our single broken file server with the pair of new servers we've recently acquired."   makes it sound like the servers "fell off the back of a truck" :p
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[19:49:23] <Onepamopa> when can we expect full support of java7 in eclipse ?
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[20:09:39] <timotei> I've tried to look at the JDT example, but couldn't find anything:
[20:09:49] <timotei> how can I make my custom wizard appear directly in the new menu?
[20:09:54] <timotei> that is, File->New
[20:10:01] <timotei> without the need to press Other...
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[20:33:28] <saby> hi
[20:34:19] <saby> i have a program which runs perfectly with 512mb heap size in helios on windows but its giving out of memory on helios and indigo on mac os x even with xmx1500m
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[20:36:52] <ron> then use windows :)
[20:37:44] <saby> ron the problem is i have mac os x at home and windows in office and i need to work from home
[20:38:27] <ron> what happens when you run the app natively?
[20:38:49] <Sazaai`Aries> got plugins?
[20:38:57] <saby> havent tried on mac os x
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[20:39:15] <saby> as i need to use the program to create the data for the jar to run
[20:39:31] <saby> the program even runs perfectly on linux
[20:39:41] <saby> with the default heap size of eclipse
[20:40:04] <timotei> saby, maybe your code is bad
[20:41:33] <saby> timotei, i'm not to sure about that, but the program has been running perfectly on production since a long time with default vm heap size
[20:41:52] <ron> umm... wait. how do you set the memory?
[20:41:53] <saby> never had any problems until today when i just ran it on os x
[20:41:57] <timotei> saby, maybe mac os upgraded their java version :P
[20:42:00] <saby> ron in the eclipse.ini
[20:42:09] <ron> that's... not what you want to do.
[20:42:10] <saby> using the same 1.6 everywhere
[20:42:34] <ron> you have a project you run within eclipse? or you have an RCP application based on eclipse?
[20:42:34] <saby> jre6
[20:42:48] <saby> project currently running within eclipse
[20:43:00] <saby> for development
[20:43:02] <ron> so you need to change your run configuration, not eclipse.ini
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[20:43:17] <saby> ron where can i do that ?
[20:43:29] <ron> eclipse.ini affects... eclipse's memory, not jvms initiated by it.
[20:43:52] <saby> oh
[20:43:57] <saby> i had no idea about that
[20:44:08] <ron> Run -> Run configurations
[20:44:48] <rcjsuen> Onepamopa: you can install it from an update site, it's expected to be released with Eclipse 3.7.1 in Sept
[20:44:54] <saby> ok in there ron
[20:45:47] <ron> saby: go to the run configuration of your application, switch to the arguments tab and modify the VM arguements.
[20:45:52] <ron> err.. arguments,
[20:47:20] <saby> yay
[20:47:22] <saby> its alive
[20:47:26] <saby> finally
[20:47:34] <timotei> I've tried making the wizard's category "org.eclipse.ui.Basic"
[20:47:37] <timotei> but still no lucky
[20:47:37] <saby> thank you so much ron
[20:47:42] <timotei> it's dumping it in Others now :(
[20:47:42] <ron> saby: np
[20:48:00] <timotei> In general, sorry
[20:48:06] <saby> the main problem is that stanford nlp libraries and wordnet requires lot of memory
[20:48:06] <timotei> still can't move it directly in the new menu
[20:51:53] <rcjsuen> timotei: File > New? That's defined by the perspective.
[20:51:57] <rcjsuen> Has nothing to do with categories.
[20:52:07] <timotei> rcjsuen, ah. really? thanks
[20:52:10] <timotei> I'll look into it :D
[20:52:30] <rcjsuen> example org.eclipse.ui.IPageLayout.addNewWizardShortcut(String)
[20:52:51] <rcjsuen> and the bug that bites everyone's ass when they use it ~48060
[20:52:52] <Arbalest> Bug 48060 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=48060 - Platform / UI / 2.1.2 - PC / Windows XP - NEW / normal / - Assignee: platform-ui-triaged - [DynamicGUI] [Perspectives]  Allow newly dropped plugins to contribute New Wizard shortcuts without requiring resetting the perspective
[20:53:03] <timotei> hehe. thanks
[20:54:09] <timotei> well, I am creating my own perspective... so it's fine :P
[20:54:11] <timotei> hopefully
[20:54:34] <rcjsuen> yes
[20:55:03] <timotei> me n00b. I've used that addNewWizardShortcut thingy without knowing... >.<
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[21:00:17] <timotei> rcjsuen, isn't the "right click"->new the same menu as the one from file->new? :-?
[21:00:24] <timotei> cause that one doesn't get updated :(
[21:00:32] <rcjsuen> Not necessarily.
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[21:15:39] <davix> is there a reason ctrl+space completion for new in java eclipse doesn't work in the scrapbook or am i missing some custom setting that disallows this?
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[21:24:00] <davix> got it http://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=23568
[21:25:03] <hannes> hi. I just upgraded from 3.6.0 to 3.7.0 - and now my plugin doesn't start anymore - it claims "Unable to acquire application service. Ensure that the org.eclipse.core.runtime bundle is resolved and started". what is weird is that in the plugin.xml -> Dependencies -> Add for example the org.eclipse.core.filesystem doesn't show up - only filesystem_source...
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[21:25:47] <Quantum_Ion> Hello ?
[21:25:58] <hannes> (there are no version numbers in my bundle-constraints; and the build is successful)
[21:26:02] <Quantum_Ion> I found some glitch in Eclipse IDE 64 bit
[21:26:34] <Quantum_Ion> Eclipse 64 bit IDE on Windows Vista does not compile C++ files correctly
[21:26:51] <Quantum_Ion> I had to use Eclipse 32 bit on a 64 bit computer
[21:27:11] <Quantum_Ion> I am using MinGW as the compiler I don't know what is up with that
[21:27:18] <ron> open a bug?
[21:27:22] <ron> search the forums?
[21:27:24] <ron> pray!
[21:28:01] <Quantum_Ion> ron,Because of eclipse IDE bugs now you know why I use NetBeans
[21:28:26] <ron> well, ok?
[21:30:12] <anli_> Cannot paste in eclipse if the file is a css file
[21:30:20] <anli_> (using pdt)
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[21:32:12] <davix> Quantum_Ion: you should definitely stick to the software you like better. be it eclipse, netbeans or emacs. but you shouldn't do it out of rage
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[21:33:26] <Quantum_Ion> davix, Okay
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[21:43:57] <Hypocreale> Hello
[21:44:19] <Hypocreale> Does anyone here do GWT development regularly/sometimes?
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[21:58:36] <rcjsuen> hannes: You mean it won't even launch from within Eclipse?
[22:00:12] <hannes> rcjsuen: yes; but I just managed to launch it by selecting "all workspace and enabled target plugins" in the run configurations
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[22:00:51] <hannes> (previously it was 'plug-ins selected below only' - and scala library was the only selected one
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[22:04:41] <briandealwis> hannes: try ensuring you have org.eclipse.equinox.ds included and started
[22:05:23] <hannes> briandealwis: has that changed from 3.6.0 to 3.7.0? (the requirement to have it included)
[22:05:23] <rcjsuen> Well, whenyou only have one bundle, yes Eclipse won't run
[22:05:42] <hannes> rcjsuen: in 3.6 it did.
[22:06:19] <rcjsuen> There must be some miscommunication here because a Scala library != Eclipse
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[22:06:35] <hannes> rcjsuen: I'm using the scala plugin.
[22:08:15] <rcjsuen> It's certainly quite possible there are some additional bundles that are needed in 3.7 compared to 3.6.
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[22:10:51] <hannes> briandealwis, rcjsuen: thank you very much - actually the equinox.ds is needed these days. I wonder why I wasn't able to read it in any upgrade notes... but thanks for the help
[22:11:57] <briandealwis> hannes: I suspect most people use the pre-defined RCP feature, which already includes it
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[22:12:40] <hannes> briandealwis: I did until I noticed there was selected way too much stuff - so I got rid of everything at some point
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[23:19:55] <ttiicc> I would like to install 'JSF Facelets Tools' but would like to first check if it's already installed or not in my eclipse!
[23:20:11] <ttiicc> how couls I check something like this?
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