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[00:57:26] <jarid> I have used Eclipse before and it is a great IDE but for some reason, upon a re-install of Ubuntu (10.04) it only has a "Resource" tab and I can't create any Java projects
[00:57:54] <jarid> Does anyone know whats wrong?
[01:00:20] <jarid> ...anyone?
[01:00:33] <rcjsuen_> How did you instal Eclipse in the first place?
[01:00:50] <jarid> Ubuntu Software Center
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[01:01:02] <jarid> I even tried from the eclipse website, same results :\
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[01:01:38] <rcjsuen> which file did you download
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[01:02:32] <jarid> The Eclipse classic 3.7
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[01:03:26] <rcjsuen> and where did you untar the file to
[01:04:04] <jarid> From the eclipse website I just extracted it in the downloads folder and then ran the executable
[01:04:56] <jarid> But, I have installed Eclipse from the USC and it has worked before, its just not working now for some reason
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[01:07:08] <nitind> Which JRE is it that you're using?
[01:07:59] <jarid> Im using the OpenJDK from the USC
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[01:10:01] <jarid> I'm actually downloading the "Eclipse For Java Developers" now and i'll see if it works I guess
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[01:36:56] <jarid> It didnt work :|
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[01:41:06] <ahhughes> howdy, I got java options to generate .equals() and .hashCode()... but not compareTo() is there a plugin that can do this for me? I had a look and there are a few plugins but they are all very very very old and most are like v0.3.0 or some juvenile version.
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[02:28:47] <dublisk> Hi, the editor in eclipse wont work. I am on ubuntu 11.04. The error message is here http://codepad.org/d8N4z302
[02:29:03] <dublisk> I tried reinstalling it
[02:33:08] <rcjsuen> so you opened a Java file and that's the error?
[02:33:50] <dublisk> I didn't even open anything yet
[02:34:10] <dublisk> it just randomly says it at times
[02:35:04] <dublisk> Is that just the error message I would get if it is trying to open files that doesn't exist?
[02:35:20] <dublisk> I interpreted it as a problem with the editor
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[10:06:05] <ualtin1> Hi, I can not see my "variables" view in debug anymore
[10:06:29] <ualtin1> Window->show view-> variables doesn't open any
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[10:09:27] <ron> ualtin1: are you sure it doesn't open or maybe you have the view minimized, set on quick view or something similar?
[10:11:22] <ualtin1> quick view? how can I set it to that
[10:11:50] <ron> look for toolbars in the sides or bottom of your perspective. see if anything's there.
[10:12:41] <ualtin1> in my perspective there is nothing which indicates to variable view
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[10:13:08] <ualtin1> If I go to another perspective the variables view opens
[10:13:19] <ualtin1> but not in the debug perspective
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[10:15:01] <ron> when you're in the debug perspective, and you go to window->show view->variables, which view gets focus?
[10:16:19] <ron> ualtin1: another option is to reset the perspective.
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[10:45:14] <GutenTag> Is there a way to get eclipse to refactor my code so that all of my { are on the same line as conditionals?  i.e.  if (something) {
[10:46:52] <ron> yes.
[10:47:10] <GutenTag> ron: Could you help me with a search phrase or otherwise in the right direction?
[10:47:22] <ron> though doing it just for conditionals only would be fairly difficult.
[10:47:40] <ron> eclipse has a formatter which you can set with your preferences.
[10:48:17] <ron> you can run it manually on a file or selection section using ctrl+shift+f
[10:48:25] <ron> you can also set it to run automatically on save.
[10:48:46] <ron> and if you want to do it on a whole project, right click on the project -> source -> format
[10:50:06] <GutenTag> hmm, ctrl-shift-f doesn't appear to do anything...
[10:51:05] <GutenTag> Oh, I see.  It probably is doing something, just w/o any visible changes.  I probably need to check my preferences..
[10:51:38] * ron nods
[10:52:12] <ron> assuming Java, go to window->preferences->java->code style->formatter
[10:53:27] <GutenTag> I just did, and I turned on "project specific settings" and enabled Java conventions for this project.
[10:54:18] <ron> well, normally I wouldn't use project specific settings, but if this is a standalone project and you don't use any source control, it's fair enough.
[10:54:38] <GutenTag> I wanted to limit the "damage" until I tested it. :)
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[10:56:45] * ron nods
[10:57:05] <devish> what is the difference between synchronise with repository and compare with options in eclipse?
[10:57:54] <devish> they zalmost do the looking thing that is show the difference between local and remote file
[10:58:07] <ron> not sure about the specifics but the synchronize has its own perspective while compare normally works in the local perspective.
[10:58:20] <ron> compare with also works on local history, afair.
[10:58:29] <GutenTag> should annotations be on separate lines?
[10:59:20] <GutenTag> I suppose, I need to be more specific: annotations on members
[10:59:56] <ron> that's a matter of preference. normally I like to put them above the declaration as it's more obvious that way.
[10:59:59] <devish> yes, perpective wise they are different one opens all together a new perspective other  does not but functionality wise I dont see any,
[11:00:10] <devish> yes history point is good
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[11:04:21] <GutenTag> ron: Is it possible to have eclipse automatically comment the end of a block like so?  if (something) { } // end if  [it would be nice it also include the "something" part but I'll settle otherwise :)
[11:04:48] <ron> GutenTag: I don't know, but imho, it's not a good practice.
[11:04:54] <ron> especially when IDEs are used.
[11:05:58] <GutenTag> Well, a lot of people I've worked with say that, but then after awhile, they seem to like that I do it.  It's very easy to follow my code blocks.  If the IDE could collapse conditionals like it does, say methods, then I might agree.  But afaik, eclipse doesn't.  I'd LOVE to be wrong about that, though.
[11:07:43] <ron> GutenTag: there's a plugin that adds that functionality.
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[11:08:12] <ron> also there's ctrl+shift+p
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[11:09:49] <GutenTag> ron: Yeah, c+s+p is helpful, but collapsing would be nice.  I'll google, if you have any keywords that'd be great.
[11:11:59] <ron> GutenTag: just open the marketplace and search for fold or folding.
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[11:15:49] <GutenTag> First I just Googled marketplace.  Never knew it existed.  This will make life simpler.
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[11:22:18] <GutenTag> Hmm.  I don't see it, but I'll search more another day.
[11:22:34] <lisak> how can I list com.example.*  classes ? I think in older releases one could  just Open Type  org.example.
[11:22:39] <lisak> and it would list them
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[11:22:52] <lisak> now it list every type recursively
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[11:28:42] <lisak> or am I wrong ?
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[11:28:47] <ron> lisak: it works just the same.
[11:29:16] <lisak> pattern in the fqn signature ?
[11:29:20] <ron> GutenTag: if you don't see it, you either use a version prior to 3.6 or your eclipse installation is based on the eclipse classic package.
[11:29:22] <lisak> of the package
[11:29:25] <lisak> that's bad
[11:29:29] <lisak> I need this a lot
[11:29:34] <ron> need what?
[11:29:39] <ron> not sure I follow.
[11:31:45] <lisak> I need to list classes only in org.example.*
[11:31:56] <lisak> not org.example.**.*
[11:32:03] <lisak> Types
[11:40:02] <ron> lisak: I'm fairly certain there's a way to do it, just not sure how. sorry.
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[11:42:22] <ech0s7> hi
[11:42:33] <ech0s7> i have a problem with eclipse+cdt under windows 7 (64bit)
[11:42:46] <ech0s7> seems that i have a problem with encoding charset
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[11:43:47] <ech0s7> and after a while eclipse crashes
[11:44:02] <ron> ech0s7: CDT questions are best served in the forums... :-/
[11:45:42] <ech0s7> i see this for example
[11:45:42] <ech0s7> http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/cdt-dev/pngRaMnzeVT6R.png
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[12:31:28] <rickard>  I have moved to linux and want to change the shortkey to expand project folders to -> Right Arrow.. I cant find the name of this command.. Can someone help me?
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[12:43:58] <asterisk-learner> hello, i am using eclipse 3.7.0, i have an existing project that compiles and run fine, i am trying to add joda-time library but facing problems...
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[12:47:21] <asterisk-learner> I added the jar (add external jars -> joda-time-1.6.2.jar) with no errors / warning from eclipse
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[12:48:37] <asterisk-learner> however as soon as I import org.joda.time.*; i get all sort of errors
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[12:50:10] <asterisk-learner> myclass cannot be resolved to a type
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[12:50:14] <asterisk-learner> any ideas ?
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[13:04:16] <b52> hey fellas, i use eclipse 3.7 in combination with pydev but im unable to get syntaxhighlight for html/js/css files, any idea how to solve that?
[13:04:55] <ron> is the proper editor used for those files?
[13:05:07] <b52> i dont now, i just got the "text editor"
[13:05:39] <b52> which editor should i associate with it?
[13:05:40] <ron> perhaps you need WTP installed.
[13:05:45] <b52> wtp ?
[13:05:53] <ron> webtool platform
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[13:06:13] <ron> asterisk-learner: you get the error on the import itself?
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[13:07:40] <ron> rickard: I'm not entirely sure whether that's an internal eclipse setting or whether it relates to the OS.
[13:08:07] <b52> ron: whats the site location i can add to eclipse to install it?
[13:08:32] <ron> b52: when you right click a css file -> open with, do you have a CSS editor in the list?
[13:08:37] <b52> nop
[13:09:00] <asterisk-learner> ron: yes, as soon as i edit a code file to use the lib, but on the import of the jar file itself using eclipse GUI
[13:09:11] <asterisk-learner> ron: I am using an ant build system in case it matters
[13:09:32] * ron lags to death.
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[13:12:28] <ron> sorry, lagged to death.
[13:12:31] <jaso> hi everyone
[13:12:38] <jaso> is anyone using  channel #java on srv freenode
[13:13:08] <ron> ##java, not #java
[13:15:23] <jaso>  ##java :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[13:15:26] <jaso> :S
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[13:16:07] <asterisk-learner> ron: did u get my last messages before lagging to death ?
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[13:21:01] <rcjsuen> jaso: /msg nickserv help
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[13:22:19] <rcjsuen> asterisk-learner: so when you say myclass you mean jodaclass
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[13:33:18] <asterisk-learner> rcjsuen:  No i mean myTestClass.java, the one that was compiling fine before the introduciton of jodaclass
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[13:36:49] <lisak> impossible to change color of javadoc comments http://imm.io/7uGw
[13:37:12] <lisak> I'd need them more bright, so that they don't make the code harder to read
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[13:37:48] <lisak> but apparently one can change the color of its elements, but not the actual text itself
[13:38:27] <rcjsuen> lisak: 'Other'...
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[13:40:37] <lisak> rcjsuen, but try if it takes effect
[13:40:45] <lisak> omg
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[13:41:00] <lisak> I'm idiot I was looking at xml editor :)
[13:41:07] <rcjsuen> ok...
[13:41:27] <lisak> rcjsuen, and what about  //comments ?
[13:41:44] <lisak> got them
[13:41:46] <rcjsuen> ok...
[13:41:47] <rcjsuen> :o
[13:41:50] <lisak> :-)
[13:42:12] <lisak> the colors are confusing? seem much darker than in editor
[13:42:20] <lisak> no questionmark*
[13:43:31] <rcjsuen> asterisk-learner: So you had a class that compiled and once you added the jar it stopped compiling.
[13:44:01] <asterisk-learner> rcjsuen:  No i mean myTestClass.java, the one that was compiling fine before the introduciton of jodaclass
[13:44:09] <asterisk-learner> rcjsuen:  True
[13:44:21] <asterisk-learner> rcjsuen:  sorry abt repeating the previous sentence :-S
[13:46:08] <asterisk-learner> rcjsuen:  actually, i have many classes in the projects that are referenced by each others, when i modify one class to add the joda import i get the error
[13:47:21] <asterisk-learner> also in the error log i get javabuilderhandling core exception -> File not found ..../myTestClass.class
[13:47:38] <asterisk-learner> seems like the import, corrupted or interfered with my build path or so....
[13:48:02] <asterisk-learner> btw, i tried cleaning the porject, deleting any file manually from the disk and restarting eclipse, not to avail ...
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[13:53:44] <lemmy> How do I get an IDocument from an IFile without org.eclipse.ui.texteditor.IDocumentProvider. I don't have access to the UI.
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[13:55:37] <rcjsuen> lemmy: I don't think you can.
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[13:56:53] <rcjsuen> oh wait
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[13:57:18] <rcjsuen> lemmy: use org.eclipse.core.filebuffers.ITextFileBufferManager
[13:57:26] <rcjsuen> lemmy: from the static DEFAULT
[13:57:30] <rcjsuen> org.eclipse.core.filebuffers.ITextFileBufferManager.getTextFileBuffer(IPath, LocationKind)
[13:57:38] <lemmy> rcjsuen: thx
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[13:57:38] <rcjsuen> from the ITFB you can get the doc
[13:57:48] <acron17> hi there! i've the problem that i need to handle something in a non-ui thread (part of the model) which should open a dialog (part of the view=
[13:58:29] <rcjsuen> lemmy: If there isn't one then you need to use the manager to _connect_ to the path. And of course when you're done you need to _disconnect_
[13:58:29] <acron17> i tried the execute a command but had to learn that commands can only be executed inside ui-threads
[13:58:37] <rcjsuen> lemmy: lmk if you get lost
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[13:59:40] <acron17> why must commands be executed within the ui thread? and what should i use instead of commands?
[14:00:52] <rcjsuen> acron17: What happened when you executed it outside the UI thread?
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[14:04:19] <acron17> rcjsuen: well i can't actually event try to execute it as i use IServiceLocator.getService() to get the command and handlerservice and iservicelocator seems to be implemented only by gui elements like wokrbenchsite
[14:05:50] <acron17> and in my non-ui thread Activator.getDefault().getWorkbench().getActiveWorkbenchWindow() returns null
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[14:14:42] <paulweb515> acron17: if you are doing work off the UI thead (in a job, for example) and you want to update something in the UI thread, you must either schedule a UIJob or post an (a)syncExec(*) ...
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[14:24:25] <acron17> paulweb515: i've read that already. still it feels a little funny to change the model by running a job which than runs a job to open a dialog if needed
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[14:26:44] <paulweb515> acron17: no matter what GUI toolkit you use, you are bound by one law.  All UI updates *must* be done on the UI thread.  If you choose to move yourself to another thread for a long running operation (which is a best practice) you must send any UI updates back to the UI thread, whether with Display.(a)syncExec(*) or SWTUtilities.invokeLater(*) ...
[14:27:44] <paulweb515> acron17: what is rendering your model? (an EMF model or your own POJOs?)
[14:28:08] <acron17> my own POJOs
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[14:29:12] <paulweb515> acron17: if you need user input while changing them, you'll have to ask for it on the UI thread.  Or you mean you make a change and your renderer expects it on the UI thread?
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[14:31:10] <acron17> in the UI the user can trigger communication with a remote server at various points. the communication is done inside the model which also has the needed data
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[14:32:16] <acron17> before the communcation starts the model might observe that there is some data (the password) missing. it then should ask the user for the missing data
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[14:35:05] <paulweb515> acron17: right ... in equinox secure server, or ECF, a UI object is passed in ... if communications needs to query the user, it talks to the UI object (which can pop up a dialog, etc, and protects itself from non-UI thread access)
[14:36:25] <acron17> paulweb515: ok, that makes sense to me, but what would such an UI object be?
[14:37:04] <paulweb515> acron17: that's totally up to you
[14:37:45] <paulweb515> acron17: for example, equinox secure storage defines: org.eclipse.equinox.internal.security.storage.friends.IUICallbacks
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[14:40:21] <acron17> paulweb515: but than i would need to implement the thread synchronization myself, right?
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[14:44:35] <paulweb515> acron17: you would have to implement calls to display.asyncExec(*) or in your case (if you need to wait for a response) display.syncExec(*).
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[14:48:41] <acron17> with Display.getDefault() you mean?
[14:49:14] <rcjsuen> PlatformUI.getWorkbench().getDisplay()
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[14:59:48] <SeySayux> Hi, is it possible to set Eclipse up so that if I click "Run" (or "Build") in my PHP project, it first copies all the files over to the server?
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[15:02:08] <nbf> SeySayux: you should have a local server setup that you're working with
[15:02:15] <nbf> so you shouldn't have to copy files to a server
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[15:03:01] <SeySayux> nbf: You mean as in, Eclipse provides a server, or an external server (e.g. Apache)?
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[15:14:20] <nbf> you can run Apache and PHP on your machine
[15:17:09] <acron17> how can i obtain the command and handler service when using syncExec?
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[15:18:07] <rcjsuen> From within the runnable you can now retrieve the active workbench window without it returning null.
[15:18:26] <ron> is Arbalest sick?
[15:18:56] <rcjsuen> nitind's computer might be down I guess.
[15:19:17] <ron> oh... it run on his computer.. didn't realize that.
[15:19:37] <ron> paulweb515: sorry for blaming you :p
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[15:28:31] <acron17> rcjsuen: thanks.
[15:29:09] <acron17> paulweb515: thanks to you as well for your great support...
[15:29:29] <ron> acron17: you should pay them.
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[15:30:02] <acron17> ron: yeah, i should
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[16:10:54] <acron17> hmm, i'm doing something wrong with syncExec... i modify an object inside but afterwards the change isn't there in the non-ui thread
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[16:11:55] <acron17> from the debugger i get the suspicion that the objects are kind of copy between the threads, is that correct?
[16:13:03] <rcjsuen> By default no.
[16:13:10] <rcjsuen> That would make multithreaded programming quite difficult.
[16:15:21] <acron17> i use Activator.getDefault() to access the instance i want to change inside syncExec, but the instace has two different ids and memory locations (or whatever the @hexno is called)
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[16:15:43] <acron17> depending on the active thread...
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[16:18:16] <acron17> the returned activator seems to be different: while in ui thread it reads something like my plugin.Activator inside the non ui thread it is: org.eclipse.core.internal.runtime.Activator@df16cd
[16:18:50] <acron17> but i can still call my methods on it...
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[16:30:26] <acron17> very strange: if open the dialog to change my object inside syncExec it works exactly as expected, but if i instead execute a command and the handler opens the dialog the changes aren't in the object after returning from syncExec
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[16:35:59] <MajorMcDoom> hi guys. i have a property tester, and 2 menu items who use it in their visibleWhen attributes. one with expectedValue of true, and the other of false.
[16:36:08] <MajorMcDoom> but somehow, they're either both visible or both invisible.
[16:36:23] <MajorMcDoom> this seems impossible, and i have no idea why it's happening. any ideas?
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[16:45:33] <caseyburk> I'm trying to consume a WSDL file in Eclipse Indigo and I keep getting an error about "wsp:Policy" when importing the file into a Dynamic Web Project: Attribute 'Id' is a Wild ID. But there is already an attribute 'Id' derived from ID among the {attribute uses}. What does this mean?
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[16:50:08] <acron17> sorry, but can anybody give me an advice? i'm really stuck with the syncExec :-/
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[16:53:45] <Nahkasorsa> Anyone got any pointers on why preferences work just fine when running with Debug as Eclipse application but don't work at all when deployed?
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[17:03:51] <ron> Nahkasorsa: too vague.
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[17:05:19] <Wont_Work> I need help badly
[17:05:37] <Wont_Work> as my username sugguests eclipse wont work :S
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[17:06:21] <Wont_Work> I know what error im getting and i understand it. i just need help on fixing it
[17:06:25] <ron> oh, let me fix it up for you!
[17:06:37] <ron> but please, don't tell us the error.
[17:06:44] <ron> keep the mystery in.
[17:06:57] <Nahkasorsa> ron: well I'm just using the initializers to set default values to the preferencestore, then I load this store on the fieldeditorpages.
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[17:07:16] <Wont_Work> ron
[17:07:18] <ron> Nahkasorsa: define 'doesn't work'
[17:07:23] <Wont_Work> oh
[17:07:30] <Wont_Work> okay this is the exact error im getting
[17:07:33] <Nahkasorsa> It doesn't get any values.
[17:07:37] <Nahkasorsa> No defaults are set.
[17:07:48] <ron> where does it load the values from?
[17:07:54] <Nahkasorsa> But when running with debug as everything works like it should.
[17:08:08] <Wont_Work> im on eclipse clasic 3.6
[17:08:20] <Wont_Work> when i start it after properly unzipping it gives this message
[17:08:46] <ron> running from debug it works fine, running regularly from eclipse it doesn't work fine?
[17:08:59] <acron17> i think my problem might has something to do with the instance not being passed directly (with the final modifier) but looked up again in the cmd handler (and thereofr in syncExec)
[17:09:13] <Wont_Work> Failed to load the JNI Shared library "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\client\jvm.dll
[17:09:22] <Nahkasorsa> Well when deploying it, going through the export -> deployable plugins.
[17:09:33] <ron> Wont_Work: do you have the file there?
[17:09:40] <Wont_Work> i understand this error. and i've checked and i have \bin
[17:09:44] <Wont_Work> but not \client
[17:09:51] <ron> Nahkasorsa: right, so I'll ask again, where do you load the properties from?
[17:09:53] <Wont_Work> how do i get \client?
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[17:10:13] <acron17> but how can i pass something other than a string when executing a command??
[17:10:21] <Nahkasorsa> You need to load preferences from some place? I thought the initializers are used for that.
[17:10:31] <Nahkasorsa> Well to load the default values I mean.
[17:10:48] <ron> Wont_Work: something is messed up. I don't have \client.
[17:11:06] <ron> Nahkasorsa: what kind of preferences do you use?
[17:11:40] <Nahkasorsa> ron: Not sure actually. Is there a place for documentation on preferences that's not close to 10 years old?
[17:12:01] <ron> Nahkasorsa: can you show me a code sample?
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[17:12:35] <Wont_Work> ron - it says it needs C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\client\jvm.dll . i've tried re-downloading a newer version it didnt work
[17:12:48] <Wont_Work> then i tried an older version (of eclipse)  and it still doesent work
[17:13:10] <ron> Wont_Work: do you have the jdk installed?
[17:13:13] <Wont_Work> im getting the same error on all versions of eclipse
[17:13:25] <ron> which might hint the problem is not with eclipse ;)
[17:13:28] <Nahkasorsa> Well the preference pages inherit FieldEditorPreferencePage so in there it should be sufficient to just set the preferencestore and values are saved to it?
[17:13:28] <Wont_Work> yes, I make MineCraft mods. im 100% sure jdk is installed
[17:13:50] * ron sighs
[17:13:51] <Nahkasorsa> I use the activator to get the store and set that as the preferencestore on the page.
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[17:14:15] <ron> Nahkasorsa: I have no idea... I don't have teleelectromagnetic vision.
[17:14:37] <ron> Wont_Work: where is your jdk installed?
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[17:15:50] <Wont_Work> C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jdk1.6.0_26
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[17:16:20] <ron> umm
[17:16:21] <Wont_Work> and my java runtime environment is in C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\
[17:16:28] <ron> which eclipse version did you download?
[17:16:34] <Wont_Work> let me double check
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[17:17:27] <Wont_Work> one second. my internet is a bit slow at the moment
[17:17:56] <ron> you have the zip file, how's that related to internet speed? :p
[17:18:31] <Wont_Work> related to internet speed = page wont load so i can check version
[17:18:43] <ron> I only need the zip name.
[17:18:50] <ron> which you have on your computer.
[17:18:53] <Wont_Work> oh. okay.
[17:19:17] <Wont_Work> Eclipse-SDK-3.7-x64.zip
[17:19:28] <ron> okay
[17:19:52] <ron> so you're trying to run eclipse 64 bit, on windows 64 bit... with a 32bit jre. can you see a problem there?
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[17:20:30] <Wont_Work> the problem would still persist. its looking for the file in the 32-bit java
[17:20:40] <Wont_Work> but the file doesent exist
[17:20:42] * ron sighs
[17:20:47] <ron> of course it does.
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[17:22:49] <ron> too bad. we were getting to the solution.
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[17:23:34] <aram535> Hi, I'm trying to get eclipselink and JPA working.  I'm using Yoxos.  Is this the right channel to ask?
[17:23:53] <ron> sure
[17:24:07] <ron> though I'm not sure how many eclipselink users are in the channel.
[17:24:37] <aram535> Okay, so I found JPA and "Added" it --- saved and restarted eclipse.  It looks like it installs it, however none of the JPA features show up in eclipse
[17:24:54] <nitind> What exactly did you find?
[17:24:57] <ron> how did you 'add' it?
[17:25:12] <ron> nitind: I miss Arbalest :(
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[17:25:38] <aram535> Help -> Yoxos Customizer
[17:25:51] <aram535> Search -> find it in the window, "Add to Eclipse"
[17:26:09] <aram535> Save yoxos config, and relaunch (from the yoxos screen)
[17:26:29] <aram535> Yoxos customizer comes up, you have to accept the legal jardon, etc...
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[17:26:47] <aram535> If I look in "help" Installed Software, JPA is listed.
[17:26:49] <nitind> ron: He was netsplit without me noticing.
[17:27:04] * ron tickles Arbalest
[17:27:13] <ron> nitind: danke
[17:30:45] <acron17> is it possible to pass an object instead of a string as a parameter to a command?
[17:30:59] <nitind> acron17: Like on a command line?
[17:31:30] <acron17> nitind: no within the eclipse command service
[17:32:08] <aram535> acron17: I think you have to write a small hand off class to pass an object
[17:33:17] <acron17> i just tried that:  HashMap<String, Object> map = new HashMap<String, Object>();   map.put(parameter, value);  ParameterizedCommand paramCommand = ParameterizedCommand.generateCommand( cmd, map);
[17:34:32] <acron17> but that throws me an exception in the face as ParameterizedCommand casts the commands to strings :-(
[17:34:52] <acron17> don't know if i miss something here
[17:35:01] <aram535> no, that's what I would have tried
[17:35:29] <nitind> You can't serialize the objects to strings and back?
[17:35:39] <aram535> I guess not
[17:36:40] <acron17> don't know. what i want to achieve is to to let the ui thread change an object (through a dialog) before using it in my non ui thread
[17:36:55] <rcjsuen> You could execute the command in a given context and from that context there could be variables in there I suppose.
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[17:37:53] <acron17> to achieve this i execute an command and the handler than opens the dialog, but i don't have the modified object but the orginal one when i'm back at the non ui thread
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[17:38:35] <acron17> i think that wouldn't happen if i could pass the object (as final) instead of looking it up with its id from a map
[17:39:12] <acron17> is that an unusual thing to do??
[17:39:24] <aram535> final is a compile time thing, it won't effect the object either way
[17:39:48] <aram535> as far as I know anyway
[17:40:49] <acron17> aram535: but the variable must be final to be passed to another thread, afaik
[17:41:49] <ron> it does?
[17:41:56] <aram535> acron17: Okay I see now what you meant -- what I had meant is the "final" keyword is a precompile flag I don't think it actually changes the object's behavior in anyway.
[17:43:40] <acron17> aram535: ok, right. the thing is that the object behaves strange when it is not passed directly.
[17:43:53] <aram535> I would believe that
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[17:59:52] <acron17> rcjsuen: i don't know if you meant that, but i'm now trying to execute the command with a self constructed executionevent
[18:00:14] <acron17> problem is that now HanderUtils throws that it cannot find an active shell
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[18:07:38] <acron17> ok, i give up the idea of executing a command inside a non-ui thread and move the logic directly into the ui...
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[18:09:23] <acron17> thanks for your support though, folks
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[18:32:26] <sten_> hey
[18:32:28] <sten_> i got a question
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[18:36:40] <ron> are you keeping us in suspense?
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[18:37:10] <sten_> oh
[18:37:12] <sten_> sorry
[18:37:20] <sten_> <link toc="../the_other_plugin_id/path/to/toc.xml" />
[18:37:25] <sten_> it is avout help plugins
[18:37:30] <sten_> i try to include toc via http
[18:37:34] <sten_> from remote server
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[18:38:02] <ron> you're talking about plugin development?
[18:38:07] <sten_> it is help
[18:38:10] <sten_> for a plugin
[18:38:18] <sten_> http://www.eclipse.org/articles/Article-Online%20Help%20for%202_0/help1.htm
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[18:39:30] <ron> sorry, can't help there.
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[18:43:02] <sten_> its actually a plugin
[18:43:10] <sten_> but with different extention point
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[18:49:41] <Sh0rtWave> I really want to know
[18:49:54] <Sh0rtWave> WHO I can strangle for Eclipse crashing every time I create a new class
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[18:51:54] <paulweb515> Sh0rtWave: usually your operating system provider
[18:52:05] <Sh0rtWave> Gotta be Eclipse
[18:52:10] <paulweb515> Sh0rtWave: but if you have a hs_err_pid file you could ~pastebin and we could take a look
[18:52:10] <Arbalest> Please paste the relevant information onto a pastebin. The submission will generate a URL which you can then copy/paste back into the channel - http://www.pastebin.ca/ - http://pastebin.com/ - http://pastebin.org - http://ideone.com/ - http://pastie.org
[18:52:12] <Sh0rtWave> because it ONLY happens on new *class* creation.
[18:52:33] <paulweb515> Sh0rtWave: if you already new what the problem was caused by, you could tell us and save us some trouble :-)
[18:52:36] <Sh0rtWave> Where would I find that on Windows?
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[18:52:59] <Sh0rtWave> that is, ye hs_err_pid?
[18:53:00] <paulweb515> Sh0rtWave: dunno, where ever your JVM put it
[18:53:08] <Sh0rtWave> Hrmf
[18:53:13] <Sh0rtWave> Not hugely helpful, but we'll see
[18:53:28] <paulweb515> Sh0rtWave: take it up with Soracle :-)
[18:53:53] <paulweb515> Sh0rtWave: although, a quick google seem to imply it would have dumped them on your desktop
[18:54:08] <ron> that makes no sense
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[18:54:41] <paulweb515> ron: not my forte, but I guess it depends on the working directory specified in the shortcut used to launch eclipse ...
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[18:54:52] <paulweb515> ron: another guess would be the directory that has eclipse.exe in it
[18:55:03] * ron nods
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[18:55:30] <ron> personally, I think there's a much simpler solution to the problem.
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[18:59:03] <Sh0rtWave> Stop using Eclipse?
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[18:59:30] <ron> well, that's another solution.
[18:59:37] <sr__> hi there
[18:59:58] <ron> which jdk version do you use?
[19:01:21] <rcjsuen> Sh0rtWave: On Windows, I would check C:\, where your eclipse\ folder is, and also possibly your workspace
[19:02:39] <Sh0rtWave> I'm digging around, but as I'm sure you're aware, the importance of finding out what happened is dropping rapidly in the face of my need to just keep getting things done.
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[19:06:25] <rcjsuen> Well, if you want to give up and use another tool to get your job done, feel free.
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[19:51:38] <SimonT> Hi I want to add a jar to my project but I'm not familiar as to how to do that. I have the .jar on my computer, I know I can add an external jar to the project, is that the best way?
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[19:56:03] <SimonT> Never mind I got it.
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[20:04:41] <cscsaba> hello
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[20:05:19] <cscsaba> I would like to update the Eclipse Web Development Tools, where is the update site ?
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[20:06:24] <cscsaba> is there any good site which guide me in such cases ?
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[20:07:59] <nitind> cscsaba: You should already have the right update site.
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[20:10:39] <cscsaba> really ?
[20:10:56] <cscsaba> i dont know it
[20:11:04] <nitind> What did you download originally?
[20:11:47] <cscsaba> listen to me
[20:12:12] <cscsaba> i would like to join in the eclipse plugin development
[20:12:55] <cscsaba> i have a line in the source code
[20:12:57] <cscsaba> import org.eclipse.wst.sse.ui.ISemanticHighlightingExtension2;
[20:13:01] <cscsaba> can not be resolved
[20:13:32] <cscsaba> my colleague said that i need to update the Eclipse Web Dev Tools
[20:13:51] <cscsaba> but all update i found said i have newer version
[20:14:09] <nitind> What did you download originally?
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[20:14:40] <cscsaba> how can i check it current verion ?
[20:14:50] <nitind> What did you download originally?
[20:16:07] <cscsaba> i could no download any version
[20:16:14] <briandealwis> cscsaba: there are at least 3 trains (versions) of Eclipse in deployment currently: indigo, helios, and galileo.  The appropriate update site depends on the train you're running.  Hence nitind's question.  It should show up on the splashscreen when you start Eclipse.
[20:16:31] <cscsaba> because the update said: i have newer version
[20:16:43] <cscsaba> i have heios
[20:16:46] <cscsaba> helios
[20:17:23] <nitind> That interface would be new in Indigo.
[20:18:05] <cscsaba> yes you are right , i build up the project under indigo, and i had no error, but i cant update in helios as well ?
[20:18:14] <cscsaba> sorry my weak english
[20:18:21] <nitind> Not without moving everything else to Indigo as well/
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[20:19:52] <cscsaba> nitind: i thought i can update web dev tools on helios
[20:20:00] <cscsaba> nitind: ok, i got it
[20:20:07] <cscsaba> i need the indigo
[20:20:13] <cscsaba> thanks
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[21:39:15] <l0pher> hi.
[21:39:49] <l0pher> i got rid of the eclipse helios random crash (especially when using content assist) by using eclipse indigo.
[21:40:21] <l0pher> still no clue except that hs_err_<pid> logs were pointing to UTF-16.so.
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[22:04:37] <ron> l0pher: do you have any issues now?
[22:04:53] <l0pher> nope. what do you think of the cause?
[22:05:17] <ron> nothing :)
[22:06:00] <l0pher> i think when i did my f15 upgrade, the glibc would've been updated and hence this change. (UTF-16.so is part of glibc)
[22:06:31] <ron> might be.
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[23:23:32] <deSilva> does eclipse 3.7 normally delete trailing whitespace on save?
[23:25:06] <nitind> Check your preferences.
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[23:35:09] <donrudo> hello; I'm having troubles to have eclipse internal browserworking right with xulrunner; sometimes it fails with this error:   libswt-mozilla-gtk.so: /usr/lib/xulrunner/libxul.so: undefined symbol: gtk_major_version
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