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[01:31:14] <nitind> Krenair: What's the Package Explorer's layout set for (check using the view's local menu).  ~imgbin it?
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[03:47:18] <Krenair> nitind, I really have no idea
[03:47:37] <Krenair> I've since worked around the problem though
[03:47:39] <Krenair> Thanks anyway
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[05:06:14] <Dodek> hey, i've added an external library jar to a project and know i want to debug it. how can i attach the source of the external library?
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[05:09:22] <nitind> Dodek: Open the properties for that library in the build path.
[05:12:52] <Dodek> oh thank you
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[11:35:26] <ron> this is tiring. I can't get egit to work with an ssh key on a different machine. it keeps asking me for a password.
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[12:59:03] <bsod1> How can I disable bold fonts in eclipse? I searched all of `preferences` screen but couldn't find anything useful.
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[13:04:57] <rcjsuen_> No. If someone writes code to make something bold in the UI, you can't override it.
[13:06:22] <bsod1> rcjsuen_: I mean in code screen, I don't want eclipse to make keywords bold
[13:06:38] <rcjsuen_> then it would be in the preferences
[13:06:43] <rcjsuen_> well, assuming your editor lets you modify them anyway
[13:07:18] <bsod1> rcjsuen_: what do you mean by "your editor?". it's eclipse
[13:07:34] <rcjsuen_> I mean editors may or may not expose these settings
[13:07:46] <rcjsuen_> I could write a plug-in for Eclipse that doesn't expose these colours.
[13:07:54] <rcjsuen_> It would be mean to my users but sure I could do that.
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[13:16:34] <pulse00> hi all. anyone knows where to find the bundle  org.apache.commons.lang ? i'm trying to compile a plugin and it fails due to the missing  org.apache.commons.lang bundle
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[13:27:47] <rcjsuen_> You might be able to find it in Orbit.
[13:27:54] <rcjsuen_> Otherwise you'd have to get it from Apache I guess.
[13:29:26] <pulse00> thanks
[13:31:06] <pulse00> actually it was part of the eclipse platform sdk, build error is gone after installing it
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[15:21:08] <ron> where's Arbalest?!
[15:21:09] <ron> hmpf
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[16:48:17] <ron> apparently, eclipse doesn't behave properly without the right permissions.
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[17:29:45] <BlaDe^> Hi guys
[17:29:58] <BlaDe^> with a remote server project, can I make it NOT download the files locally? I want it to download the files as I open them
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[17:32:38] <skegeek> How do I properly load one (or several) remote files, but edit them locally? Last I tried it seemed that edit was streamlined something to be editing the remote file itself.
[17:33:05] <BlaDe^> wow. I want to do the exact opposite
[17:33:13] <skegeek> Whatever happened to local temporary files and saving changes..
[17:33:15] <BlaDe^> my Eclispe downloads the entire remote directory and uploads as I edit
[17:33:19] <BlaDe^> it's horrible
[17:33:24] <BlaDe^> what version are you running?
[17:34:27] <skegeek> Technically it's Aptana 3.0, but that functionality is eclipse itself.
[17:35:39] <BlaDe^> i'm using Zend studio 8
[17:35:45] <BlaDe^> and Eclipse is doing the opposite for me, i hate it.
[17:37:31] <skegeek> Eclipse version 3.6.2
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[18:04:48] <ron> remote development is evil.
[18:04:48] <ron> I don't understand why people do it.
[18:07:27] <Hodapp> remote development?
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[18:47:57] <everythingWorks> can i define custom rules how to format xml?
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[18:49:18] <HelloWorld321> Is eclipse a good IDE for ruby-on-rails?
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[19:59:46] <BlaDe^> ron how is it evil?
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[20:28:18] <Hypocreale> Hello, I'm having an issue with Eclipse and GWT development. Is this a good place to ask?
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[20:34:56] <ron> BlaDe^: it just makes little to no sense.
[20:35:11] <ron> Hypocreale: it's a possible place :)
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[20:41:05] <Hypocreale> I need WTP for eclipse 3.5, shouldn't the repository be at: http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/repository/galileo
[20:41:14] <Hypocreale> or is it discontinued?
[20:43:09] <ron> well, why on earth do you use eclipse 3.5
[20:43:12] <ron> ?
[20:43:28] <ron> and be careful, if you use the word ubuntu, I'll smack you.
[20:44:10] <Hypocreale> I'm using an old version of Fedora, it doesn't have any newer version.
[20:44:21] <ron> even worse.
[20:44:27] <Hypocreale> hah
[20:44:30] <ron> why not... manually download eclipse?
[20:44:46] <Hypocreale> it's a lot of bytes
[20:45:03] <ron> I so hope you're kidding.
[20:46:22] <Hypocreale> I'm just doing a small project then I'm not going to use eclipse anymore
[20:47:01] <ron> okay, good luck then.
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[20:51:22] <Hypocreale> well, shoot
[20:51:48] <Hypocreale> http://download.eclipse.org/releases/galileo contains quite a lot of stuff but not WTP
[20:52:46] <ron> perhaps wtp wasn't part of the galileo release train.
[20:54:17] <Hypocreale> whoever wrote WTP's website seems to think so though
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[20:54:45] <ron> then get it from there.
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[20:57:45] <RenatoSilva> Eclipse 3.7 and Indigo released? What's Eclipse 3.7 exactly, the Java and JEE bundles?
[20:58:22] <rcjsuen_> the SDK
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[21:21:56] <RenatoSilva> thanks
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[21:25:02] <l0pher> hi.
[21:25:10] <ron> hi!
[21:26:02] <l0pher> eclipse helios keeps crashing randomly on my fedora 15 machine when it's stuck on some operation and it definitely crashes during content assist,
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[21:26:23] <ron> logs?
[21:26:50] <l0pher> using Eclipse Java EE IDE for Web Developers Build id: 20100917-0705 on fedora 15 with java build 1.6.0_22-b04
[21:27:02] <l0pher> ron, what's the location i've to look for?
[21:27:08] <ron> ~logs
[21:27:11] <ron> damn
[21:27:13] <ron> bot is gone
[21:27:18] <ron> look at the channel faq
[21:27:23] <l0pher> let me check.
[21:27:30] <paulweb515_> l0pher: if it crashed, look for your hs_pid_err logs
[21:27:44] <ron> paulweb515_: why did you kill Arbalest?
[21:27:46] <paulweb515_> l0pher: programmatic error logs are simply in <workspace>/.metadata/.log
[21:27:48] <paulweb515_> ron: didnt
[21:27:52] <ron> did too.
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[21:29:04] <paulweb515_> ron: if I went on a rampage, don't think I would have forgotten you ... :-)
[21:29:39] <ron> paulweb515_: you really do care :)
[21:32:18] <l0pher> ron, paulweb515 the workspace error logs don't have much info other than "The workspace exited with unsaved changes in the previous session; refreshing workspace to recover changes."
[21:32:29] <l0pher> and the error log view shows "An exception stack trace is not available."
[21:32:36] * ron laughs
[21:32:58] <paulweb515_> l0pher: for crash, you need a native stack trace ... hs_err_<pid> file
[21:33:15] <l0pher> ohk. where would it be located, paulweb515 ?
[21:33:44] <paulweb515_> l0pher: totally depends on your JVM ...
[21:33:46] <l0pher> let me check. I had ABRT notifications for a few crashes.
[21:33:50] <paulweb515_> bbiab
[21:37:41] <l0pher> do i pastebin the log?
[21:39:00] <ron> yup
[21:39:52] <l0pher> heh, spam detection for pastebin! and the captcha is not downloading. :-(
[21:40:03] <ron> had that happen too
[21:40:08] <ron> lots of alternatives to it though
[21:40:19] <l0pher> here we go: http://pastebin.com/NeDMFRQd
[21:41:14] <l0pher> this hs_err_<pid> file was found under the eclipse helios directory.
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[21:42:31] <ron> well, I'd start with changing or updating the jvm.
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[21:42:47] <l0pher> sure, i'm downloading the update 26 in parallel.
[21:43:01] <l0pher> but this didn't happen in fedora 13. had the same jvm earlier, though.
[21:43:33] <ron> well, you know, magic happens.
[21:43:47] <ron> could be something between the jre and the kernel version for that matter.
[21:43:52] <l0pher> i've increased the permgen space and xms and xmx to 1024m to make it's not an OOM.
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[21:44:01] <l0pher> make sure*
[21:44:20] <l0pher> okay, i'll update the jvm and try again.
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[21:45:00] <ron> I doubt it's OOM nor a permgen problem. you would have seen it clearly in the logs.
[21:45:09] <l0pher> yea correct.
[21:45:46] <l0pher> it just freezes during content assist, hangs for a second and the window closes.
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[21:46:33] <ron> yeah, I've heard of such an issue before.
[21:46:44] <ron> btw, I assume this is not for PDT.
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[21:49:14] <l0pher> which part of this log most usually gives a clue about the area?
[21:49:23] <l0pher> those # commented parts?
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[21:51:40] <wabash> Is there a quick way to get eclipse to generate a constructor from the member fields?
[21:52:51] <l0pher> i think "source -> generate constructor" from fields is what you're looking for.
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[21:53:13] <ron> l0pher: I honestly have no idea.
[21:53:17] <l0pher> okie.
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[21:58:54] <wabash> l0pher: Yes, I think so.
[21:59:12] <wabash> Thank you.
[21:59:18] <l0pher> np.
[21:59:32] <ron> how's the installation going?
[21:59:47] <l0pher> download not complete yet.
[22:00:04] <ron> bah.
[22:00:10] <l0pher> the downloads from oracle.com have always stalled like anything after a few minutes.
[22:01:16] <ron> damn, I'm tired.
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[22:27:08] <l0pher> still the same after vm update. i guess i'll look into the libxul.so which the log indicates it as the problematic frame.
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[23:32:04] <Hartimer> how can i make my wizard refresh my viewer in order to show the newly created element?
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