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[05:46:05] <sirajperson> is this a good spot to talk about swt?
[05:46:38] <sirajperson> channels labeled swt seem to only have 2 or 3 people in tme.
[05:46:50] <sirajperson> them**
[05:47:41] <sirajperson> I would like to be able to create my one TreeItem class that extends the TreeItem.
[05:53:24] <nitind> I take it you saw the part of the documentation that says you're not supposed to do that?
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[10:01:40] <milestone> hi folks
[10:01:46] <milestone> i am in a new project
[10:01:51] <milestone> they still use galileo
[10:02:00] <milestone> i want to utilze m2eclipse
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[10:02:14] <milestone> but when i try the new update site from eclipse.org/m2e
[10:03:03] <milestone> it keeps telling me that the m2e Marketplace could not be found
[10:03:08] <milestone> and i go wtf?
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[10:08:56] <nitind> I believe it won't work with Galileo.  Helios or Indigo only.
[10:09:46] <nitind> That or http://download.eclipse.org/technology/m2e/releases/ is a 404.
[10:10:56] <nitind> ~350873
[10:10:57] <Arbalest> Bug 350873 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=350873 - m2e / core / 1.0.0 - PC / Windows XP - NEW / normal / - Assignee: m2e.core-inbox - Poor error reporting in 'm2e Marketplace'
[10:11:55] <milestone> great
[10:12:12] <milestone> is there any other way to install the plugin?
[10:12:15] <milestone> manual download etc
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[10:46:41] <ron> nitind: that's odd. I think I reported that bug earlier.
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[11:13:51] <QbY> Please forgive the newbie question.  How do I enable hints/code completion (where it provides me a list of valid commands as i type)?
[11:15:29] <ron> how to enable it or how to trigger it?
[11:15:35] <QbY> trigger i guess
[11:15:45] <QbY> i never see it, and i kind of need it
[11:16:09] <ron> ctrl+space
[11:16:39] <QbY> hrmm..  didn't bring up nothing..
[11:17:03] <ron> which editor?
[11:17:34] <QbY> Eclipse Java EE Indigo - Android SDK
[11:18:16] <ron> and you're editing a java file?
[11:18:34] <QbY> yes
[11:19:07] <ron> can you take a screenshot of eclipse and paste it? ~images
[11:19:15] <ron> ~image
[11:19:15] <Arbalest> Please upload your screenshots online and then paste the link back to the channel - http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add - http://www.freeimagehosting.net/ - http://imagebin.ca/upload.php - http://imageshack.us/
[11:19:17] <ron> bah.
[11:21:33] <QbY> ron. http://imgur.com/QTu8i
[11:22:55] <ron> QbY: okay, first, create an empty block for the onClick method to remove the errors, ok?
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[11:23:00] <platero> Hello
[11:23:09] <platero> how is everybody?
[11:23:15] <ron> super
[11:23:28] <platero> could anyone help me to understand how to refresh the contect of a treeview?
[11:23:41] <platero> i am reading some pages but i dont understand it properly
[11:23:46] <ron> swt/plugin development?
[11:24:05] <platero> i dont know how i can make my model system notify my treeview that it must be updated
[11:24:08] <ron> or rather rcp/plugin development?
[11:24:21] <platero> rcp/pluging development
[11:24:25] <platero> :)
[11:24:29] <ron> yeah, can't help with that, sorry.
[11:24:39] <platero> hehehee, thanks anyway
[11:25:02] <ron> QbY?
[11:26:06] <QbY> i just removed it
[11:26:55] <ron> okay
[11:27:22] <ron> now, add a new line in the onCreate method
[11:27:30] <QbY> k.
[11:27:47] <ron> type Str and then ctrl+space
[11:27:52] <ron> do you get anything?
[11:28:01] <QbY> yes
[11:28:17] <QbY> I will always have to do Ctrl+Spaace?
[11:28:24] <QbY> I can't have it always popping up stuff
[11:29:00] <ron> it'll popup automatically when you type . -> like myClass.
[11:29:07] <QbY> k.
[11:29:15] <ron> it doesn't make sense to popup as you type along
[11:30:02] <QbY> true, i don't mind it though
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[11:33:27] <busfahrer> Excuse me, in Subclipse, is there any way to change the URL that is considered the "root" of the repository? It currently regards a directory higher up as its root which I don't have access to, and that makes branching impossible, as it seems.
[11:34:42] <ron> did you look at the properties of the repository in the svn perspective?
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[12:05:33] <t3rminat0r_> hello guys
[12:06:46] <ron> hi
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[12:07:46] <platero> hi
[12:11:57] <platero> hi
[12:12:20] <platero> could anyone point to good tutorial or manual how to do a "rite" treeviewer?
[12:12:55] <platero> I will be grateful, thanks in advance (I am googling also, just-in-case)
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[12:25:14] <rcjsuen> platero: What do you want
[12:26:03] <platero> rcjsuen, could u point me to a good manual/tutorial/article to understand how to make my treeviewer update when some of my object is modified
[12:26:16] <platero> I dont know understand very well
[12:26:22] <rcjsuen> and don't PM ppl next time
[12:26:30] <platero> ok
[12:26:33] <platero> i am sorry
[12:27:37] <rcjsuen> tree viewer has update/refresh methods, call them when you object is modified
[12:29:23] <platero> So i have to call directly the treeviewer, there is not an system in eclipse rcp to notify that my object has been modified, right?
[12:29:42] <platero> I have to do it manually then
[12:31:04] <rcjsuen> use databinding if you want
[12:31:38] <platero> umm....
[12:31:45] <platero> ok, i am going to look for that then
[12:31:49] <platero> thank you
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[15:00:44] <wfq> hi guys
[15:01:16] <wfq> in the past I had to use netbeans because I couldn't find a very good java pluging for using swing
[15:01:41] <wfq> is that solve now or it has always been solved and I am a bloody useless :)
[15:02:02] <ron> you're bloody useless.
[15:02:03] <ron> ;)
[15:02:07] <wfq> hahahah
[15:02:15] <ron> try the WindowBuilder Pro plugin for eclipse.
[15:02:50] <wfq> ron, thanks a lot
[15:04:12] <wfq> ron, can I use it for java applets as well?
[15:04:29] <ron> you shouldn't do java applets.
[15:04:52] <wfq> sorry, don't get it
[15:05:08] <ron> applets are the source of all evil and should be avoided.
[15:05:29] <wfq> :) well that is another issue but can I do it through that plugin
[15:05:40] <wfq> I'd hate have to switch to netbeans
[15:05:50] <wfq> *to have...
[15:06:00] <ron> I have no idea.
[15:06:21] <ron> basically, though, applets are just gui apps wrapped in an Applet class.
[15:06:28] <ron> so I don't see why there should be a difference.
[15:07:20] <wfq> well, I am not a javas expert but there is some. I just do not wish to have to convert my gui java application to applets. I'd prefer to have anything done directly
[15:07:42] <wfq> like setLayout (BorderLayout) to FlowLayout , etc...
[15:07:46] <ron> again, if you plan it wisely, there shouldn't be much of a difference.
[15:08:15] <ron> and if you avoid applets and use java web start, I think there's pretty much no difference at all.
[15:10:52] <ivarref> Hi all. is it possible to debug or get some information about what you see? e.g. there is a popmenu objectcontribution extension point, but is there a more general extension point for everything that is clickable?
[15:11:25] <ron> okay, what?
[15:12:21] <baedert> In my plugin, I'd like to have some custom/internal preferences. Where am I supposed to save a xml/txt/whatever file where I want to store those preferences?
[15:12:51] <nitind> baedert: http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/platform-core/documents/user_settings/faq.html
[15:12:54] <ivarref> ron: for example for a given view.. how to get information about that particular view? to see where the code is actually running. I know it's not the best question. I'm just thinking about a very general introspection method
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[15:13:26] <ron> ivarref: context, man. context.
[15:13:26] <nitind> ivarref: No.  You can use Plug-In Spy (Alt+Shift+F1) to get a better idea of what's in front of you, and pause the main thread to see what the UI is doing.
[15:13:33] <wfq> ron we'd need something in the browser
[15:13:53] <ron> wfq: do you, really?\
[15:14:12] <wfq> yeah, it is the first requirement
[15:14:29] <ron> wait, is it homework?
[15:14:35] <wfq> otherwiser I wouldn't even use java as I am not a java developer, but python or even c++
[15:14:40] <ivarref> nitind: thanks.. that's quite helpfull :)
[15:14:41] <wfq> no homework at all
[15:14:56] <wfq> this is a very real coputer vision and machine learning application
[15:14:58] <ron> is the requirement that it runs from the web or is it that it runs inside a browser?
[15:15:58] <wfq> the browser should be the launcher
[15:16:07] <ron> hence, java web start.
[15:16:28] <wfq> and it's a client-server application
[15:16:32] <ron> so?
[15:17:00] <wfq> don't know. what are the disadvantages of using java web start
[15:17:02] <nitind> wfq: If you don't want to write in it Java, why are you trying to write it in Java?
[15:17:03] <wfq> and why not applets
[15:17:20] <wfq> nitind, because our client is very complex
[15:17:26] <wfq> we need to analyse live streaming video
[15:17:36] <ron> wfq: because applets have quirks that are related to the browsers. java web start is just a java application has has got nothing to do with the browser.
[15:17:37] <wfq> and flash video player are not accurate enough
[15:17:47] <ron> the only thing you use the browser for is.... to start the application.
[15:18:12] <ron> it's just a way to inject your application to the user without the user having to install anything directly.
[15:18:15] <wfq> yeah but you will have to download application locally, don't you?
[15:18:38] <ron> it'll be download locally just as applets are downloaded locally.
[15:18:47] <wfq> well I was waiting for that answer
[15:18:58] <wfq> but we need to make sure the guy only uses web browsers
[15:19:12] <ron> but even with applets you can't do that.
[15:19:15] <wfq> no application dowloaded to the desktop and then run out of it
[15:19:24] <wfq> yes but the applet runs within the browser
[15:19:28] <wfq> it is simple
[15:19:44] <ron> okay, what are you trying to avoid?
[15:19:44] <nitind> And can only talk to the server it came from, iirc.
[15:19:48] <wfq> I can guess the java web start is something that uses the web just to download the app
[15:20:03] <ron> nitind: my apologies for keeping it off topic.
[15:20:11] <wfq> nitind, that is a good observation
[15:20:24] <wfq> and agree with it
[15:20:45] <wfq> so what does the guy connect for second time to our system must do after connecting the first time
[15:20:55] <wfq> open the browser and download the apps again?
[15:21:01] <wfq> *app
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[15:21:27] <ron> wfq: http://mindprod.com/jgloss/javawebstart.html#APPLETSVSJWS
[15:22:00] <wfq> won that link is very useful
[15:22:05] <wfq> thanks a lot guys
[15:22:13] <ron> np
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[15:23:02] <wfq> shall look for a demo as showcase for the team
[15:33:49] <platero> Hi, does anyone know if there is a Irc channel for RCP programming?
[15:34:07] <ron> there probably isn't.
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[15:44:45] <wfq> hi guys
[15:44:50] <wfq> again :)
[15:46:10] <wfq> well, I tried some demos and I was asked for java web estart 1.2.2. I can guess that happened to me because I had JRE already but I imagine that for "virgin" matchines we can make it so that the client download JRE+Java web start at the same time, can't we?
[15:46:51] <ron> I'm fairly certain the JRE contains the JWS in it.
[15:46:57] <wfq> well, have to close this again as the chat client is java based and need to get closed to install java web start
[15:47:05] <wfq> see you in 1 minute guys
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[16:00:45] <baedert_> nitind: sorry, but I can't see how that link helps me :/
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[16:56:53] <psst> Is there a way to define a variable in terms of another variable?  Specifically ant.home in terms of ECLIPSE_HOME
[16:57:21] <ron> not sure I follow...
[16:58:01] <psst> ron: You know you can define classpath variables in eclipse as absolute paths?
[16:58:48] <ron> not really.. but let's say I have :)
[16:59:07] <psst> well, I want to define one relative to my eclipse plugins folder.
[16:59:16] <ron> inside eclipse?
[16:59:28] <psst> yes
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[17:00:36] <ron> interesting question.
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[17:02:43] <ron> not sure how :-/
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[17:04:09] <nitind> baedert_: You store your preferences in one of the scopes.
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[17:13:08] <ron> psst: your ant.home is under eclipse though?
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[17:35:38] <Leonel> Hello there, I've been watching videos of GWT UI Designer and WindowBuilder, do you know if there is any tool like that for Python? I would love to make some fast little apps that way
[17:37:08] <ron> better ask on #python :-/
[17:39:41] <Leonel> ron: they anwered me about QTDesigner but I think they don't like "lazy people" much, this tool create an UI and then is tranlated to Python, not really bi-directinal.. so I'm trying my look somewhere else :P
[17:40:15] <ron> well, QT is not really python per-se afaik.
[17:40:28] <Leonel> I mean they didn't know what I was talking about when said GWT UI Designer, and they didn't seem want to talk about Visual Studio things
[17:41:18] <ron> well, I'm not sure.. never done python really.
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[17:42:25] <ron> http://wiki.python.org/moin/GuiProgramming <-- have you looked under gui design tools and ides?
[17:43:39] <Leonel> ron: yes, they're all "make an UI and translate to code" things, I've installed like 20 different things yesterday, but nothing really "double click a button and code its click event"
[17:44:20] <Leonel> once you have your code, if you want to modify the UI you have to edit all your events again
[17:44:27] <ron> I see.
[17:44:38] <ron> well, time to dump python ;)
[17:44:58] <Leonel> yes, I think its time to learn Java.. :(
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[17:48:34] <Leonel> its a pitty because it was such a nice language to learn programming, and I don't really have a lot of time to learn a new one
[17:48:51] <ron> what do you need to develop?
[17:50:04] <Leonel> I've been playing with web sites, and I wanted to try some small windows tools.. but it takes too much work to create widgets with just code
[17:51:10] <ron> there are many web frameworks for python.
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[17:55:14] <Leonel> anyway GWT looks amazing so I'll try Java, I was just delaying it because it seems to take twice the code to do the same thing =P
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[17:56:06] <Leonel> for web sites back ends, that is
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[18:08:28] <psst> ron: yes of course
[18:16:28] <baedert_> When I have an IProject and an IFile, is there a way to check whether the IFile belongs to the IProject?
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[18:20:36] <baedert_> ok, nvm :/
[18:25:47] <mpiggott> IFile has getProject doesn't it
[18:27:01] <baedert_> yep
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[18:40:25] <Leonel> I donwloaded eclipse, when trying to execute it asks for java virtual machine, I have something installed "Java 6 Update 26" that came with OpenOffice, do I need to install something else?
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[18:44:18] <rcjsuen> I guess theoretically you could probably reuse that
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[18:51:06] <Leonel> I try to download JRE from java.com, but it tells me that I have it already and it won't allow me download anything
[18:52:03] <Leonel> rcjsuen: how would you go to reuse that?
[18:53:27] <briandealwis> Leonel: see the channel FAQ.  Look for something re "-vm"
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[19:14:09] <danomite> Anyone from the sequoyah project around, I am having trouble setting up my ndk path
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[19:18:39] <Leonel> briandealwis: thanks, now it it shows Java was started but returned exit code=13 =P
[19:19:43] <Leonel> I'll try another day, this doesn't go anywhere
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[19:59:20] <rcjsuen> Leonel: There should be more to that error message/dialog.
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[20:06:59] <Leonel> rcjsuen: it said that I had the incorrect JRE, so I donwloaded it from cnet.com (because java.com said I had it up to date) reinstaled, and it works know
[20:08:42] <Leonel> but now I cannot install the GWT plugin.. because just "it could not be found" xD
[20:08:47] <Leonel> I'm not happy
[20:09:42] <Leonel> two hours to install a 200MB program.. and then they say that Windows sucks
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[20:13:27] <lemmy> If the author confirms you're on latest, you would rather believe a random download side %)
[20:15:05] <Leonel> lemmy: a random download side? I don't undestand, I'm learning english
[20:15:39] <lemmy> Leonel: sorry, I just question if cnet.com is trustworthy.
[20:16:35] <Leonel> lemmy: well.. java.com won't allow me to download the JRE.. so I had no choise
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[20:17:38] <Leonel> and eclipse starts now, so the problem was that
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[20:28:37] <sirajperson> hello all. I was wondering if anyone could help me with an swt problem. I would like to exted the TreeItem class to create my own treeItem. I pasted my src and the error messages that I am getting at http://mysticpaste.com/view/9464
[20:29:07] <sirajperson> extend***
[20:34:46] <rcjsuen> it means what it says
[20:34:51] <rcjsuen> the class is not intended to be subclassed
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[20:43:25] <nitind> sirajperson: For what is your subclass intended?
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[20:45:08] <sirajperson> I would like the treeitems to have special values to distinguish them from other treeitems. In particular I would like to be able to use the tree items as a graphical way of creating tags in an xml file
[20:46:06] <sirajperson> so if I have a tree item "TreeItmBtn" I would like it to contain a class variable "id"
[20:46:59] <sirajperson> But I don't seem to be able to extend the TreeItem class to be able to give it class variables upon instantiation.
[20:47:30] <nitind> sirajperson: That's what Widget#setData(Object) and Widget#getData() are for.
[20:47:32] <sirajperson> maybe there is a better way then trying to extend the TreeItem class?
[20:47:58] <sirajperson> hmmmm
[20:48:08] <sirajperson> sorry for being such a n00b
[20:48:10] <sirajperson> LoL
[20:48:50] <sirajperson> I will look up setData
[20:48:59] <sirajperson> thanks for giving me that hint.
[20:50:41] <sirajperson> can i use setdata to create more then one type of instance variable once i have instantiated a TreeItem?
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[20:52:43] <nitind> There's another variation of those methods for that.  Check the doc on Widget.
[20:56:03] <sirajperson> thank you
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[21:02:11] <sirajperson> thank you, thank you, thank you for telling me about getData and setData! nitind
[21:02:26] <sirajperson> that is exacty what I deeded. I can set more then one at a time.
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[21:06:00] <waza-ari> Hey all - i'm using eclipse pdt helios. Im using the smarty tpl-engine stored in a subfolder. In the "Problems" view eclipse announces some Warnings in the smarty folder. Can i somehow make eclipse ignoring them, thus not showing them at all? i already added that folder as "exclude" to the php build path in project properties. Any idea? thanks in advance
[21:06:58] <waza-ari> The reason is, i just want to see the warnings of _my_ code, not of some external code
[21:09:20] <nitind> Unless you mention what those warnings are, there's not much to be done.
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[21:13:13] <waza-ari> nitind: these are some warnings in the php code which eclipse announces. since this is not my code, i dont care about the like "invalid text string at file..." in this particular subfolder
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[21:13:37] <waza-ari> i just would like to exclude this folder from syntax-checking
[21:16:38] <waza-ari> okay, another question: can i somehow delete "locked" content type associations?
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[21:25:52] <Leonel> sorry to bother again, I cannot install any plugin, I tried with GWT and PyDev and it never "finds the items", any ideas what could I'm doing wrong? :(
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[21:27:19] <Leonel> I'm following the instructions in this guide, but cannot pass step 3 http://code.google.com/eclipse/docs/install-eclipse-3.7.html
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[21:46:21] <verxion> hello everyone
[21:46:39] <verxion> I've got an eclipse project, that when I try to run it, it simply says "<terminated>" in the console
[21:46:46] <verxion> how do I get more verbose output of what went wrong?
[21:49:04] <jink> Are you sure something went wrong? :)
[21:49:20] <verxion> lol
[21:49:25] <verxion> well the app never launched
[21:49:33] <verxion> so yeah, I'm pretty sure
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[21:55:19] <verxion> so is there any way to get more verbose output of what is going wrong?
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[22:24:53] <bennylu> how in a listviewer can i set the foreground color?
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[22:25:44] <nitind> Think it through.  What can you set the foreground color on?
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[22:29:40] <bennylu> on the elements of the list.. but the only way i think i can do it is to use DecoratingLabelProvider, but it requires  ILabelDecorator - do i really have to implement all those functions only to change the foreground or that there is other way?
[22:30:33] <bennylu> sorry if it is a stupid question but i started using SWT/JFACE only today :) ...
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[22:32:09] <nitind> Try setting it on the widget.  Which you can usually get from a viewer.
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[22:32:44] <bennylu> nitind: thanks i will try :)
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[22:52:06] <bennylu> when using listviewer if i want to add item to the model do i have to re-set the input to the viewer or there is some sort of change notification function that can be called?
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[22:53:36] <nitind> Check the methods on Viewer and in the hierarchy of the viewer you're using.
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[22:56:48] <rcjsuen> you can't do fg colours in a ListViewer, use a TableViewer instead
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[22:57:51] <bennylu> nitind: thanks again, i belive refrash should do the trick :) ...
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[23:30:36] <bennylu> hi, i want a table viewer column to take the full width of the table, currently i am listening on resize events and fit the column when they received, is there a better way to do so?
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[23:36:00] <nitind> bennylu: Maybe you should peruse http://www.eclipse.org/swt/snippets/
[23:37:24] <bennylu> nitind: interesting... again thanks a lot!!!
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