[00:00:25] <nitind> Thrawn: It sure reads like one.  Often if you read a question closely enough, at least the naive solution will present itself.
[00:00:49] <Thrawn> u mean like a homework question?
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[00:01:00] <Thrawn> maybe,
[00:01:08] <Thrawn> well,
[00:02:20] <Thrawn> i had 3 months of java at university so far; now i got spring break; and im so interested in java programming that im learning it by myself now; that 3 months lecture didnt cover GUI, nor proper exception handling :/
[00:03:02] <Dessimat0r> (was going to recommend trying Mattise in Netbeans to make GUIs, then remembered this was #eclipse :))
[00:03:20] <Thrawn> <- windowbuilder pro :
[00:03:22] <Thrawn> :P
[00:03:24] <nitind> Yes, because we have WindowBuilder, now.
[00:03:31] <Dessimat0r> nice :)
[00:03:51] <Dessimat0r> I'll have to install that and try it out
[00:04:14] <Dessimat0r> certainly looks better than what Eclipse had before
[00:04:15] <Thrawn> i tried it out; but too less knowledge about ... the code. decided ill try programming it without a GUI builder first to get an idea of what im actually doing <.<
[00:04:18] <Dessimat0r> which broke if you looked at it wrong
[00:04:23] <Thrawn> lol
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[00:04:36] <Thrawn> but windowBuilder is 4 years old i think
[00:05:20] <nitind> I doubt JButtons and JLabels in Swing have changed that much in the interveaning time.
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[00:08:06] <Dessimat0r> WindowBuilder is open source now, it can be updated :)
[00:08:23] <nitind> It's a project at eclipse.org.  You think it isn't being updated?
[00:09:29] <Dessimat0r> I actually thought it was retained by the external company, didn't realise it was open source
[00:09:54] <nitind> Dessimat0r: http://www.eclipse.org/windowbuilder/
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[00:38:05] <isarl> Hi all. I'm having troubles installing a plugin from a file instead of an update site.
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[00:38:43] <isarl> In my eclipse folder, I have dropins/mydropin/eclipse/{features/,plugins/,artifacts.jar,content.jar}
[00:38:58] <isarl> But this plugin isn't loaded by Eclipse on startup.
[00:39:29] <isarl> I also tried explicitly specifying the dropins directory in my eclipse.ini file using -Dorg.eclipse.equinox.p2.reconciler.dropins.directory=/path/to/dropins
[00:39:51] <isarl> What am I doing wrong?
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[00:44:08] <paulweb515_> isarl: if you have the p2 repo, why not just install it?
[00:44:31] <isarl> Not sure what you mean. What is a p2 repository?
[00:44:45] <isarl> I only have an archive which contains the aforementioned 2 dirs, 2 files.
[00:45:07] <paulweb515_> isarl: content.jar/artifacts.jar make up a p2 repo
[00:45:17] <paulweb515_> isarl: I assume your features/ and plugins/ have jars in them?
[00:45:21] <isarl> I see... yes, that's correct.
[00:45:30] <isarl> 1 in each.
[00:45:38] <isarl> How do I "just install it"?  =)
[00:46:09] <isarl> Aha.
[00:46:10] <isarl> I see.
[00:46:11] <paulweb515_> isarl: you can use Help>Install New Software and then create a local repo that points to the directory that contains artifacts.jar/content.jar ... please move it out of dropins first
[00:46:27] <paulweb515_> isarl: for more info on dropins, though, you can check out http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_p2_Getting_Started#Dropins
[00:46:29] <isarl> I was about to do exactly that, except without removing it from dropins.
[00:46:39] <paulweb515_> isarl: but if you have the p2 repo, you may as well install it properly
[00:46:49] <paulweb515_> you might have to uncheck "group content"
[00:46:49] <isarl> Yes; I had read that, and I was very confused as to why it wasn't detecting it properly.
[00:47:09] <isarl> It's reassuring that there's a way to do it "properly".  Thanks very much for the help. =)
[00:47:28] <isarl> Is there any use in keeping the p2 repository around after I've installed it the "proper" way?
[00:48:30] <paulweb515_> isarl: once it's installed, not really, unless you occasionally download new .zips and would need to re-install
[00:48:33] <paulweb515_> anyway, gotta run
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[00:48:57] <isarl> Thanks again!
[00:49:08] <isarl> I've spent the last most-of-an-hour bashing my head against this.
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[01:56:25] <Thrawn> :P
[01:56:31] <verxion> hello everyone!  :)
[01:57:03] <verxion> I have a java project that runs perfectly in eclipse on Linux.  It also USED to run perfectly in eclipse on OSX, but doesn't any more
[01:57:26] <verxion> I'm trying to figure out how best to troubleshoot what is going wrong - I never get a window displayed when I run the application
[02:00:38] <mpiggott__> verxion: I think there is some special vm flag for OSX related to UI
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[02:00:57] <verxion> mpiggott: hrm
[02:01:43] <verxion> so in launch configuration properties, under VM arguments?
[02:01:47] <verxion> or do you mean something else?
[02:03:20] <mpiggott> verxion: Found what I was thinking of: -XstartOnFirstThread
[02:03:30] <verxion> ok, let me try that
[02:04:54] <verxion> that actually SEEMED to make things worse
[02:05:02] <verxion> thanks for your help by the way, I appreciate it
[02:05:36] <verxion> what happens when I run the app is I get a Finder bar named "a.b.c.Main"
[02:05:46] <verxion> and clicking on it doesn't show a window
[02:05:58] <verxion> if I add -XstartOnFirstThread, I don't even get that
[02:06:50] <verxion> I think I need to buy a book on eclipse or something
[02:06:58] <verxion> I'm used to doing everything from the commandline
[02:07:03] <mpiggott> Ah, not a mac user just know we needed that for some of our applications running on Mac.
[02:07:17] <verxion> mpiggott: ok, fair enough
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[02:21:34] <verxion> how anyone else have thoughts on what is going on?
[02:23:13] <nbf> is it a swing app or swt?
[02:23:28] <verxion> swing
[02:23:37] <nbf> sorry don't have much experience there
[02:23:41] <verxion> ok
[02:23:50] <verxion> what I'd like to know is
[02:23:58] <verxion> how do you debug something that effectively never starts?
[02:24:05] <verxion> I'm not familiar with debugging in eclipse
[02:35:30] <rcjsuen> If you run from the command line does it work?
[02:36:07] * Thrawn pings verxion
[02:36:13] <verxion> I normally do perl/sh/tcl/php/mysql/asp development work
[02:36:17] <verxion> new to Java, so my apologies
[02:36:39] <verxion> I'm trying to learn this at home
[02:36:45] <verxion> but can't get it to run the project at all
[02:36:57] <verxion> so that is making the whole learning process pretty brutal.  :/
[02:41:43] <verxion> ok, I'm trying to do some debugging here
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[02:42:10] <verxion> it APPEARS to be dying at a point that the debugger calls "Launcher$AppClassLoader(ClassLoader).loadClass(String) line: 247
[02:42:13] <verxion> "
[02:42:17] <ki__> Hi. I want to sFTP local changes to the staging server within eclipse
[02:42:37] <ki__> I'd like to be able to stay in the same perspective, PHP
[02:42:56] <ki__> I am new to eclipse, I downloaded CDT and TM, but it looks like i need to switch perspectives to use TM?
[02:43:54] <ki__> I don't want to edit remotely over sftp, i want to edit locally, then push via sftp to a remote server
[02:44:12] <rcjsuen> It's _very_ rare that any user action would be tied to a perspective.
[02:44:33] <rcjsuen> if it is they either a) had a really good reason or b) it was a mistake and is a bad design
[02:45:31] <verxion> what does it mean when eclipse highlights a variable yellow during debugging?
[02:46:00] <rcjsuen> The value has changed.
[02:46:23] <verxion> ok
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[02:58:56] <public-> Do I need to have eclipse running on my Ubuntu box to do a build from a command line make script that exists on that box?
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[02:59:12] <public-> I'm trying to build on a remote server with the build constructs of a project in Windows.
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[03:05:33] <verxion> how do I tell eclipse to build a jar file?
[03:05:41] <verxion> from a project?
[03:06:48] <verxion> looks like export perhaps
[03:08:04] <verxion> ok
[03:08:06] <verxion> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: test.jar at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:202) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:190) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:306) at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:301)
[03:08:12] <verxion>  at java.lan.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.ojava:247)
[03:08:14] <verxion> that is what I'm getting
[03:08:39] <rcjsuen> That's not how you run a jar.
[03:08:48] <rcjsuen> read the man pages/google
[03:09:13] <verxion> ok, I thought you could just do "java jarfile.jar"
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[03:11:52] <Thrawn> failed to load main class Manifest, thats a common problem i hear :P google it^^
[03:12:24] <Thrawn> means when executing your jar it cant find the public static void main(String args[]) { i think
[03:16:22] <verxion> I forgot to tell eclipse what my Main was
[03:16:23] <verxion> lol
[03:16:25] <verxion> sorry
[03:16:31] <verxion> never done an export before
[03:16:41] <Thrawn> xP
[03:16:49] <verxion> Now I'm getting: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/commons/httpclient/protocol/SecureProtocolSocketFactory
[03:16:55] <Thrawn> welcome to freenode support channels btw ^.^
[03:17:06] <verxion> the thing that boggles my mind is the SAME project works on Linux
[03:17:12] <verxion> so why would a library be missing under OSX?
[03:17:26] <Thrawn> a library?
[03:17:34] <verxion> is this something normally included in the java runtime?
[03:17:59] <Thrawn> when you download java there are different options with more or less libraries..
[03:18:14] <verxion> well on OSX, it is part of the OS effectively
[03:18:20] <Thrawn> err
[03:18:20] <verxion> ie, software updates install it
[03:18:28] <verxion> obviously I can grab a different java installation
[03:18:32] <Thrawn> afaik OSX dont come with java originally
[03:18:36] <Thrawn> as doesnt linux
[03:18:52] <verxion> well I did a software update and it did
[03:19:00] <verxion> perhaps I got lucky/unlucky
[03:19:00] <verxion> :)
[03:19:07] <verxion> ok, digging into this now
[03:19:29] <Thrawn> btw in eclipse theres two options of packing a jar; jar file and executable jar file
[03:19:48] <Thrawn> the executable packs in all the libraries you need to execute your program
[03:20:01] <Thrawn> so you wont be missing anything guaranteed
[03:20:18] <Thrawn> im out gn8
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[03:24:16] <coldpizza72i> is there some way to click a method call that will take me to that method?
[03:24:30] <rcjsuen> Ctrl+Click
[03:25:29] <coldpizza72i> rcjsuen: what about on a mac?
[03:25:36] <rcjsuen> No idea.
[03:25:58] <coldpizza72i> rcjsuen: does your shortcut have a name to it?
[03:26:42] <rcjsuen> perhaps you should just try with other modifier keys
[03:26:46] <rcjsuen> otherwise just use f3
[03:28:05] <coldpizza72i> rcjsuen: is there a way to change the modifer keys?
[03:28:20] <rcjsuen> dunno
[03:28:40] <coldpizza72i> so f3? does the same thing?
[03:30:07] <coldpizza72i> i found the key... ahhha
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[04:15:14] <verxion> is there any difference in eclipse between running in a Java EE versus a "plain" java perspective?
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[04:54:25] <nitind> verxion: Only the default list of available commands, menus, and arrangement of views.
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[05:22:40] <eshan> help : my manifest.mf file says "Manifest has no main section" at line 1. can some body tells me the reason of this issue ?(I am developing an eclipse plugin )
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[05:23:01] <nitind> ~pastebin it .
[05:23:11] <nitind> it ~pastebin ?
[05:23:11] <Arbalest> Please paste the relevant information onto a pastebin. The submission will generate a URL which you can then copy/paste back into the channel - http://www.pastebin.ca/ - http://pastebin.com/ - http://pastebin.org - http://ideone.com/ - http://pastie.org
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[08:17:58] <BullShark> How do i get the welcome screen of eclipse back?
[08:18:07] <BullShark> i check windows>view
[08:19:27] <ron> Help->Welcome
[08:20:08] <BullShark> thanks
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[09:08:50] <goddard> why is it I have to close the manifest every time i compile?
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[09:25:17] <ron> goddard: why do you?
[09:26:38] <goddard> ron why do i?
[09:27:06] <ron> that's what I asked.
[09:28:36] <goddard> if i asked the question then you asked it back then i asked it back
[09:28:49] <goddard> its like a circle
[09:28:56] <goddard> i dont know why man
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[09:29:16] * goddard sighs
[09:29:16] <ron> your question is too vague.
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[09:29:51] <goddard> ron what would be helpful is letting me know what extra information you need because i could go on and on about stuff that may or may not matter
[09:30:04] <goddard> dont wanna waste your time :D
[09:30:22] <ron> too late.
[09:30:28] <ron> Which language do you use?
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[09:31:01] <goddard> java
[09:31:03] <goddard> android
[09:31:43] <ron> okay. and you don't have the build-automatically option turned on?
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[09:37:18] <goddard> if its on by default then yes
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[09:40:30] <ron> huh? don't complicate the answer. is it on or isn't it?
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[09:41:58] <goddard> umm let me try and find this then i guess since i dont even know this feature
[09:42:18] <ron> Project->Build automatically
[09:42:30] <goddard> yep its on
[09:43:13] <ron> the define 'every time I compile'
[09:43:30] <goddard> ok i will make a change to the manifest
[09:43:36] <goddard> and then click the run button
[09:43:44] <goddard> it will error out
[09:43:51] <goddard> then i close the manifest
[09:43:57] <goddard> and click run and it works
[09:44:03] <goddard> leaving the same information in the manifest
[09:44:12] <ron> what's the error
[09:44:13] <ron> ?
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[09:45:28] <goddard> first error is
[09:45:30] <goddard> 00:49:08,720 INFO  [main] Main  - javax.xml.transform.TransformerFactory=null
[09:46:03] <goddard> then it says something about no embedded stylesheet instruction for file
[09:46:12] <goddard> Manifest.xml
[09:46:24] <ron> can you pastebin the full error?
[09:46:37] <ron> ping me when you're done
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[09:55:47] <goddard> http://pastebin.com/xnNPL4S0
[09:57:10] <goddard> ron ping
[09:57:25] <ualtin> Hi, where can I set the template for hachCode and equals methods?
[09:57:48] <ron> goddard: the manifest you were talking about is AndroidManifest.xml?
[09:57:56] <goddard> yeah
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[09:58:40] <ron> ualtin: go to window->preferences, type 'template' in the filter at the top left. I'm sure you'll be able to find your way from there.
[10:00:54] <ron> ~287951
[10:00:56] <Arbalest> Bug 287951 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=287951 - WTP Source Editing / wst.xml / 3.1 - PC / Windows XP - RESOLVED / NOT_ECLIPSE / normal / - Assignee: wst.xml-triaged - Unwarranted Behaviour while pressing ctrl+f11 with XML Editor in Eclipse 3.5
[10:01:08] <ron> goddard: ^ is that familiar?
[10:03:27] <fasta> Why doesn't this have any effect? cmake . -d CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX="$HOME"
[10:03:41] <fasta> Wrong channel.
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[10:19:48] <devish> how to add maven plug-in in eclipse3.4?
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[10:25:32] <devish> how to add maven plug-in in eclipse3.4?
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[10:48:00] <TomTom> 3.4? totally outdated
[10:48:16] <TomTom> the next one asks for STS in eclipse 2.0 ;)
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[10:50:42] <devish> but it should work ?
[10:52:31] <ron> devish: maybe a really old version of m2e.
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[11:08:57] <ecfuser90047> hi
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[11:09:38] <M22> hi... i'm writing a plugin and i wanna access a remote zip file...how do i download the file into the workspace?
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[11:13:51] <devish> M22: import to workspace might work
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[11:15:44] <M22> devish: i am aware of the wizard... how do i code to retrieve contents from a URL?
[11:17:22] <devish> try Help>>software update
[11:20:47] <M22> devish:i am writing a plugin to retrieve contents from a URL...
[11:21:05] <M22> how to i convert a String to a URL?
[11:23:01] <M22> thanks anyway devish!
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[11:29:40] <devish> M22: http://agile.csc.ncsu.edu/SEMaterials/tutorials/install_plugin/index_v35.html,www.eclipse.org/eclipse/presentation/eclipse-slides.ppt
[11:31:06] <devish> M22: these both are 2 diff link separated by , don't mind:) ppt has something in last though not looked it from some months
[11:32:50] <TomTom> can anybody explain the cause of this kind of error/warning in eclipse: Access restriction: The type XmlElement is not accessible due to restriction on required library /opt/sun-jdk-1.6.0.26/jre/lib/rt.jar ?
[11:33:07] <TomTom> where is this restriction defined?
[11:34:21] <M22> its been only a warning for me... runs fine with it...
[11:34:40] <M22> TomTom... can try including the jar in reqd packages...
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[11:36:02] <TomTom> of course i can lower the level so thats only a warning and not an error, but the cause of this message is not clear to me
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[11:52:10] <M22> how do i fetch contents from a URL?
[11:52:54] <rascal999> I'm using PHPeclipse and I've changed the colours. Problem is text within HTML tags in php scripts is black, and so is the background. How do i change this?
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[12:08:41] <rascal999> Anyone?
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[12:10:45] <ron> rascal999: by not using PHP.
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[12:11:45] <rascal999> next?
[12:13:56] <ron> which editor opens the html file? the html editor or the php editor?
[12:15:07] <ron> rascal999?
[12:15:12] <rascal999> php editor
[12:15:19] <rascal999> it's a .php file
[12:15:22] <rascal999> it has php and html in it
[12:15:29] <ron> doesn't mean it opens it in the php editor.
[12:15:35] <rascal999> how can i check?
[12:15:40] <ron> right click on it->open with, see which is the first in the list.
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[12:16:18] <rascal999> ron: php editor
[12:16:22] <ron> okay
[12:16:27] <ron> go to window->preferences
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[12:16:30] <rascal999> yeah
[12:16:32] <ron> do you have PHP in the list?
[12:16:41] <rascal999> yeah
[12:16:46] <rascal999> PHPeclipse
[12:16:55] <ron> okay, under that Editor?
[12:17:29] <rascal999> PHPeclipse > PHP has tabs Appearance, Syntax, Typing etc
[12:17:53] <ron> see if there's an Editor tab.
[12:18:18] <rascal999> PHPeclipse > PHP > Editor only has file saving stuff
[12:18:24] <ron> okay
[12:18:26] <ron> try this instead
[12:18:41] <rascal999> I'm using helios 3.6
[12:18:50] <ron> in the top left filter box (in the preferences) type, 'color' and see if anything comes up under the PHPeclipse section.
[12:19:06] <ron> it shouldn't relate to the eclipse version but rather the phpeclipse plugin.
[12:19:27] <rascal999> ron: no results under PHPeclipse
[12:19:37] <ron> hmm :-/
[12:19:54] <rascal999> ron: i did install the color theme pack but that didn't work either
[12:20:47] <ron> rascal999: have you seen this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2196316/php-eclipse-syntax-color-change
[12:21:57] <rascal999> yeah i don't have that path
[12:22:11] <rascal999> PHP > Editor only has file saving stuff
[12:22:39] <ron> right.. is there a reason you use PHPeclipse and not PDT?
[12:22:46] <rascal999> no
[12:23:06] <rascal999> PDT is more mainstream?
[12:23:10] <ron> you might consider using it instead then, as it is part of the eclipse project and it should have better support for virtually anything.
[12:23:18] <ron> http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/
[12:23:56] <ron> also, http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/php_package.php
[12:24:39] <ron> and last but not least http://www.zend.com
[12:24:51] <ron> I can't recommend one solution over the other as I don't use php.
[12:25:02] <ron> you may want to ask in #php about which is the better solution to use.
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[12:26:48] <jimmysparkle> hey all, im using PDT on Indigo, every time I paste a code block it destorys the indentation. It's 'formatting' it and I can't figure out how to disable it
[12:27:01] <jimmysparkle> or at least fix it so the formatting is sane and not rubbish
[12:27:16] <jimmysparkle> It's driving me insane constantly fixing indentation
[12:27:22] <jimmysparkle> ne1 else had this issue?
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[12:56:05] <ron> jimmysparkle: can you pastebin an example? (before and after)
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[13:03:57] <rascal999> why is eclipse colossally slow when updating/installing?
[13:07:02] <ron> eclipse itself is slow or the process of update/install is slow?
[13:09:49] <rascal999> ron: process
[13:11:06] <ron> rascal999: it can be due to several reasons (slow connection, slow hosts), and there's something you can do to speed up the process though the install/update may fail.
[13:11:46] <rascal999> ron: ok, I'm trying to uninstall phpeclipse but the uninstall button is blanked out
[13:11:58] <ron> screenshot please
[13:12:01] <ron> ~images
[13:12:06] <ron> ~image
[13:12:06] <Arbalest> Please upload your screenshots online and then paste the link back to the channel - http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add - http://www.freeimagehosting.net/ - http://imagebin.ca/upload.php - http://imageshack.us/
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[13:14:05] <rascal999> http://imagebin.org/163062
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[13:16:31] <ron> did you install the PHPeclipse plugin manually?
[13:16:51] <riclas> is every file from an eclipse installation in linux stored in the eclipse and workspace folders?
[13:16:59] <ron> no.
[13:17:08] <rascal999> ron: aaaaah
[13:17:12] <rascal999> ron: via yum actually
[13:17:24] <ron> rascal999: that may be it then.
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[13:17:43] <riclas> i'm trying to purge everything from eclipse, i still have that connectivity issue from yesterday :(
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[13:18:29] <ron> 'purge'?
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[13:20:34] <rascal999> ron: sweet it works, colour schemes fixed too
[13:20:36] <rascal999> thanks for your help
[13:20:59] <ron> no problem.
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[13:22:42] <riclas> yeah ron. like erase everything related to eclipse
[13:22:54] <ron> you mean erase eclipse?
[13:22:56] <riclas> there could be some hidden config file or smth.. idk
[13:22:58] <riclas> yeah
[13:23:25] <ron> just erase the eclipse directory, and in each workspace, files beginning with . - like .project, .settings, .classpath.
[13:24:01] <riclas> yeah i have erased the eclipse and workspace directories.
[13:24:09] <riclas> was wondering if there is anything else
[13:24:09] <jimmysparkle> ron: sorry missed your message: http://pastebin.com/2xdKrWLe
[13:24:26] <jimmysparkle> ron: formatted (broken) verson starts at line 23
[13:24:28] <ron> riclas: shouldn't be.
[13:24:32] <riclas> k
[13:25:05] <ron> jimmysparkle: when does the formatting change? when you paste it? when you save it?
[13:25:12] <jimmysparkle> when I paste
[13:25:15] <riclas> i thought it could be because of the kernel update yesterday, but i've gone to previous kernel versions and get the same problem :
[13:25:17] <riclas> :\
[13:25:31] <jimmysparkle> I've turned off the Java & Javascript adjust indendation on paste - but i think it's broken in PDT
[13:25:39] <jimmysparkle> and PDT doesn't offer a turn off feature
[13:25:59] <ron> jimmysparkle: are the indentation in the original space-based or tab-based?
[13:26:01] <jimmysparkle> when I hit Source-> Format - it ruins indentation in whole file
[13:26:14] <jimmysparkle> tab based
[13:26:19] <jimmysparkle> don't like space base indents
[13:26:31] <ron> and your eclipse settings are to use tab or space indents?
[13:26:58] <jimmysparkle> tabs
[13:27:13] <jimmysparkle> new eclipse installation
[13:27:19] <jimmysparkle> does the same on my laptop too
[13:27:43] <ron> different tab width?
[13:28:01] <jimmysparkle> always just use default (4 i think?)
[13:28:12] <ron> yeah
[13:28:36] <ron> do you have JDT installed as well?
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[13:38:52] <riclas> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/t/220593/
[13:39:08] <riclas> i've made a post in the forum. there's an error log attached.
[13:39:17] <riclas> in case anyone can take a look and help.
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[13:54:48] <ron> riclas: do you have access to http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/updates/3.7/categories/content.jar ?
[13:55:43] <ron> from your browser, that is
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[15:06:25] <ualtin> anyone know where I can modify the equals and hashCode generator template
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[15:07:58] <ron> I'm fairly certain I answered you on that already.
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[15:08:48] <ualtin> Yeah but I did not find something under templates
[15:08:52] <ualtin> in windows->pref
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[15:11:01] <ualtin> ron: that is why I asked again.. sorry
[15:11:52] <ron> what exactly do you want to do?
[15:12:20] <ualtin> I would like to use HashCodeBuilder and EqualsBuilder instead
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[15:12:54] <ron> instead of what? I'm not sure I know what you want to replace.
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[15:14:33] <ualtin> I want to replace that what eclipse is generating when i click: ALT+SHIFT+S and say generate hashCode and equals
[15:14:45] <ualtin> a dialog pops up and asks which variable i want tu use
[15:14:46] <ualtin> to
[15:15:30] <ualtin> and there I want to create my own "template" and I want it to use curly braces after if statement
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[15:17:07] <ron> now I understand....
[15:17:11] <ron> I'm not sure that can be done.
[15:17:12] <ualtin> cool
[15:17:16] <ualtin> oh :(
[15:17:32] <ualtin> even the curly brace can not be added to that template?
[15:17:43] <ron> doubt it
[15:17:48] <ron> however, they may be a different solution.
[15:18:08] <ualtin> for HashCodeBuilder an EqualsBuilder or ht curly braces?
[15:18:24] <ron> both.
[15:18:47] <ron> can you show me an example of the output you want to get (for one or the other)?
[15:19:11] <ualtin> yes
[15:19:57] <riclas> yes i do have access to the repositories in the browser ron (sry was having lunch)
[15:20:22] <ron> riclas: not just the repositories, can you download the jar itself?
[15:20:28] <riclas> yes
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[15:21:35] <ualtin> what is the paste web page called again
[15:22:47] <mpiggott> pastebin
[15:22:50] <ualtin> http://pastebin.com/x3wMW9Ad
[15:22:53] <ualtin> thx
[15:23:16] <ualtin> the above is the auto generated from eclipse
[15:23:21] <ualtin> what I want is the below one
[15:24:29] <ron> riclas: and all the proxy settings inside eclipse are turned off?
[15:24:39] <riclas> yup
[15:24:43] <riclas> it's a fresh install
[15:25:16] <riclas> thing is i've tried to regress to helios and now have the same problem there.
[15:25:28] <riclas> so i'm thinking it may be something out of eclipse
[15:25:33] <riclas> that changed... ikd
[15:25:35] <riclas> *idk
[15:25:50] <ron> as odd as it may sound, did you try with a fresh workspace?
[15:25:50] <riclas> sometimes it gets to the repository
[15:26:07] <riclas> everytime i install i delete the old workspace
[15:26:15] <riclas> and create a new one
[15:26:43] <riclas> (yes i've deleted and recreated the install folder several times already :\ )
[15:27:25] <ron> can you telnet to the update site?
[15:31:30] <ualtin> brb
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[15:31:42] <ron> ualtin: check out http://wiki.jiayun.org/Commons4E - it may do what you want.
[15:34:01] <riclas> ron can you hint how to telnet to the update site?
[15:34:18] <ron> remind me which os?
[15:34:37] <riclas> ubuntu
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[15:36:52] <riclas> i'm on telnet console, i try to open the url, but it's probably incomplete
[15:37:02] <riclas> *the command
[15:37:08] <riclas> i'm not proficient on telnet
[15:37:23] <ron> it was a stupid idea, sorry
[15:37:50] <riclas> the server would need to accept telnet, seems it doesn't.
[15:37:52] <ron> basically in the telnet prompt, you can try typing 'open download.eclipse.org 80'
[15:37:53] <riclas> :)
[15:37:59] <ron> no..
[15:38:06] <riclas> oh
[15:38:30] <riclas> yeah that works. it connects
[15:38:46] <ron> yeah, it was a stupid idea. :-/
[15:38:52] <riclas> :P
[15:39:15] <ron> when exactly do you encounter the problem?
[15:40:10] <riclas> i enter eclipse, i go to "install new software", i put in the maven download site e.g. and it doesn't show the package.
[15:40:46] <riclas> or i go to "Update existing software" and it doesn't show
[15:40:54] <riclas> the packages.
[15:41:01] <riclas> it shows those errors in the log
[15:41:51] <ron> o_O
[15:42:12] <riclas> it gets stuck on the "contacting update sites" part
[15:42:21] <riclas> *software sites
[15:43:17] <ron> ah
[15:43:24] <ron> no
[15:43:36] <riclas> now it kind of unstuck
[15:43:39] <riclas> for a bit.
[15:43:46] <ron> it fails when you click install or when you try to load the available plugins for installation?
[15:43:47] <riclas> it finished the update
[15:44:21] <riclas> it was getting stuck on the "checking requirements" step
[15:44:25] <riclas> after i click install
[15:44:31] <riclas> before it shows the EULA
[15:44:42] <riclas> now it unstuck and shown the EULA
[15:44:57] <riclas> but the n got stuck again in "installing software"
[15:44:58] <riclas> :\
[15:45:37] <ron> okay
[15:45:38] <ron> try this
[15:45:48] <ron> in the install new software window
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[15:46:01] <ron> remove the 'Contact all update sites....' checkbox, and then try.
[15:46:36] <riclas> i left it there, and it unstuck again :S
[15:46:42] <riclas> started installing maven
[15:46:43] <riclas> lol
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[15:47:11] <ron> so it's okay now?
[15:47:12] <riclas> but it stuck again already
[15:47:14] <riclas> no
[15:47:37] <ron> stuck as in error or stuck as in takes a while
[15:47:39] <ron> ?
[15:47:48] <riclas> stuck as in takes a loooooong while
[15:47:58] <riclas> no error yet
[15:48:25] <ron> in that case, wait.
[15:48:26] <ron> :)
[15:48:39] <riclas> it completed installing maven \o\
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[15:48:53] <riclas> it didn't give those connect errors
[15:48:55] <riclas> wtf...
[15:49:54] <ron> I guess I can go on with my business then.
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[15:51:47] <riclas> i guess :\ thanks for your time.
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[16:07:29] <acron17> hi there! i've two problems with a listviewer i use to let the user select a project.
[16:08:48] <acron17> first: i want to preselect a project and for that i use ListViewer#setSelection(new StructuredSelection(project),true) but the selection is not visible
[16:10:11] <acron17> the other problem is: i use WorkbenchLabelProvider.getDecoratingWorkbenchLabelProvider() as the label provider to the listviewer (as i've seen this at other places)
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[16:10:56] <acron17> i would expect that this labelprovider would also show the proper icons for the projects but none are shown...
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[16:32:21] <aj-dneg> line 8 of my code #include <iostream> is flagged as an unresolved inclusion despite the fact that my project builds fine - any ideas?
[16:33:08] <riclas> freshen then indexer
[16:33:21] <riclas> *the
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[16:34:23] <aj-dneg> riclas: i did index->rebuild and no change
[16:34:28] <Lmat> We need to add the newer Eclipse to the Ubuntu repositories.
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[16:36:07] <abhatnag> Lmat: you are a curious fellow my friend
[16:36:17] <Lmat> You know it.
[16:37:11] <Baribal> Hi. Is subversive supported here? 'Cause I just tagged a branch and want to merge it back into trunk, but the interface... confuses me. It's a bit too... concise IMHO.
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[16:49:36] <saml> for jsp, how can I resolve a taglib?
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[16:50:48] <chrisinajar> saml: as in add a taglib to your page?
[16:51:01] <saml> <%@taglib prefix="cq" uri="http://www.day.com/taglibs/cq/1.0" %>
[16:51:11] <saml> and in Java Build Path, I have the jar included
[16:51:34] <chrisinajar> yup, that's it
[16:52:18] <saml> but still it complains..
[16:52:56] <saml> chrisinajar, never mind. it recognizeds
[16:53:34] <saml> I have something like  <%@include file="/apps/global.jsp"%>
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[16:58:15] <netzapper> hey, I have a complex Java project with *lots* of dependencies that I'd like to run outside of eclipse. Is there some plugin for eclipse that will generate a shell script from the eclipse buildpath/launcher settings and allow me to launch without eclipse?
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[16:59:31] <Baribal> What does die ">" mean in the PyDev Package Explorer, between a projects/directories/files icon and name?
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[16:59:52] <rcjsuen> could mean "this file has been changed compared to the repo"
[16:59:52] <netzapper> Baribal: are you running a version control plugin?
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[17:00:03] <rcjsuen> assuming you are using a SCM system
[17:00:30] <Baribal> netzapper, yes, subversive.
[17:01:21] <netzapper> Baribal: then it's an indicator relating to that. I don't recall the specific semantics, but rcjsuen probably does, and is probably right: it indicates a change from repository's version.
[17:01:38] <Baribal> But Team->Update won't make the ">" disappear.
[17:02:00] <netzapper> Baribal: well, have you changed it *locally*?
[17:03:13] <Baribal> *headdesk* Yes... What has changed is the project name in .pydevproject
[17:05:09] <rcjsuen> zing
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[17:08:52] <Baribal> ...but now that you people have shown that you have more of an idea about RCS, maybe even surversi{on,ve} in particular, can you give me a hint about how to merge a branch with the trunk? I've got local copies of both, so I click Team -> Merge, but the dialog is a bit confusing. Do I even want the 1 URL, the 2URLs or the Reintegrate rider? (I think not the third, but I'm not sure)
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[17:10:16] <Baribal> Ah, I think "2 URLs"; does the order matter?
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[17:16:18] <ron> Why would Team->Update make the ">" disappear?
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[17:23:07] <Lmat> I'm attempting to install from eclipse marketplace, but it's failing because of missing requirements.
[17:23:15] <Lmat> How do I get these requirements.  Specifically, I'm installing Elysium.
[17:23:47] <Lmat> And it says, "Missing requirment: LilyPond DSL 0.2.0.201107110101 ... requires 'bundle.org.eclipse.xtext 2.0.0' but it could not be found"
[17:24:07] <Baribal> ron, on closer thinking, it wouldn't; I presumed that Update would include a Revert.
[17:24:34] <ron> install xtext 2.0.
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[17:26:26] <Lmat> ron, brb.
[17:26:39] <ron> oh, I can't wait.
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[17:30:08] <netzapper> mang, I am so tired of rolling my own tools. It seems like there should already be a freakin' eclipse plugin that exports a shell script "java -bootclasspath FRAMEWORK_LIBS -cp ALL_MY_DAMN_LIBS -jar PROGRAM_JAR". How is this not already built in!?
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[17:31:10] <netzapper> there's ant4eclipse... but, it requires me to build a whole enterprisey build.xml file, when all I want to do is launch a freakin' eclipse-built application outside of eclipse.
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[17:31:55] <ron> eclipse doesn't build applications.
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[17:32:58] <netzapper> ron: I'm sorry my terminology is lacklustre. Eclipse certainly does something that transforms .java files to .class files. And it'll let me export a jar of them.
[17:33:22] <ron> right. it lets you compile java files and pack them into jars.
[17:33:24] <Baribal> Seeya later... ...with the same subversive question. :p
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[17:33:53] <ron> creating a shell script to run the application makes little to no sense.
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[17:34:10] <netzapper> ron: how do you reckon it makes no sense?
[17:34:21] <ron> how do you reckon it does?
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[17:35:23] <netzapper> ron: I have a bug that seems to be caused by environment leakage from the eclipse JVM to the child JVMs. I want to run my program with only a shell as its parent to see if that fixes the problem. I have something like 45 different dependencies. I don't want to hand-hack the script, and I don't want to explain to the junior hacker how he now needs to learn bash scripting.
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[17:36:06] <ron> are the dependencies sitting in the same directory?
[17:36:36] <netzapper> there is a ./lib directory that contains most of them.
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[17:37:47] <ron> btw, one of the options you have when you export the jar is to repack all the libraries in the jar.
[17:38:06] <ron> not the best idea, generally, but can be useful for your specific use case.
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[17:39:10] <netzapper> eh, that doesn't sound like a good idea. It's an aspectJ application, and uses a whole host of native libraries as well (some of which are unpacked by framework libraries which then do their own classpath hackery).
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[17:39:58] <ron> then I suggest you start crackin'.
[17:40:11] <netzapper> yep
[17:40:11] <ron> either use a build tool or do it manually.
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[17:40:53] <netzapper> yep. I was just hoping somebody else had already built such a creature. But, whatever. Guess I'll start parsing XML.
[17:41:14] <ron> of course someone built such a tool.
[17:41:18] <ron> maven.
[17:41:20] <ron> ant.
[17:41:22] <ron> gradle.
[17:41:24] <ron> ivy.
[17:41:27] <ron> Take your pick.
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[17:43:07] <ron> do you use java 6?
[17:43:11] <netzapper> yep
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[17:43:51] <netzapper> (probably going to 7 for invokedynamic, though, when I get around to it.)
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[17:45:37] <ron> well, then at least the classpath should be less complicated as you don't have to specific each jar manually.
[17:46:58] <netzapper> wait, really? I totally missed that memo!
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[17:47:25] <ron> heh, yeah, in Java6 the classpath can actually contain ./lib/*
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[17:48:00] <netzapper> oh! Then this is far, *far* less painful than I was imagining. Thanks!
[17:48:05] <ron> :)
[17:48:17] <netzapper> that brings the classpath down to, like, 10 tokens.
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[17:48:24] <ron> it's true.. prior to Java 6 it was a much more painful process.
[17:48:35] <ron> that's why I asked if all your jars in the same dir.
[17:49:09] <netzapper> 31 out of 43 are there. And the rest are framework stuff that won't ever change anyway.
[17:49:15] <netzapper> thanks, ron.
[17:49:23] <ron> np
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[17:51:37] <timotei> I'm wondering
[17:51:44] <timotei> why Xtext SDK has a different icon than the rest?
[17:51:45] <timotei> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/462510/Capture.PNG
[17:51:49] <timotei> EMF has the same as Xtext
[17:52:02] <riclas> aj-dneg sorry for only getting back to you now, but was doing other stuff. what i meant was index -> freshen all files
[17:53:40] <ron> timotei: do you have XText installed already?
[17:54:22] <timotei> ron: I am working with xtext since last year this time
[17:54:24] <timotei> so yeah
[17:54:37] <timotei> ah
[17:54:41] <ron> ding?
[17:54:44] <timotei> that's an Upgrade icon so?
[17:54:44] <nitind> netzapper: You can also just copy the command line that Eclipse uses when it runs your application.
[17:54:44] <timotei> :P
[17:55:06] <netzapper> nitind: where can I get access to that?
[17:55:15] <ron> netzapper: yes, you can do that as well.
[17:55:16] * ron hides
[17:56:06] <nitind> ~debug-command
[17:56:06] <Arbalest> Need to find out what the command line invocation was for a process launched by Eclipse? See here - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#How_do_I_check_for_the_command_line_invocation_that_Eclipse_used_to_launch_an_application.3F
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[17:57:13] <netzapper> hah! That is *exactly* what I wanted
[17:57:19] <ron> okay.. time to go home and start the weekend.
[17:57:21] <ron> have a good one!
[17:57:48] <aj-dneg> riclas: yeah i tried that too, thanks. i ended up just fiddling with my preferences arbitrarily until it started working... not the most satisfying of resolutions but i'm up and running again! thanks
[17:57:49] <netzapper> nitind: thank you SO MUCH!
[17:58:05] <riclas> cool
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[18:01:29] <nitind> ron: It's Thursday.  As in not Friday.
[18:02:20] <timotei> nitind: trolls don't have friday
[18:02:28] <rcjsuen> Some people have Fridays and Saturdays off, and work on Sundays.
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[18:06:15] <briandealwis> And some people are just lucky and never work at all.  Time to check the lottery ticket...
[18:06:45] <lemmy> or one lives in France %)
[18:06:51] <timotei> programming is fun
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[18:11:06] <netzapper> timotei: programming is fun. But computers suck.
[18:11:26] <timotei> netzapper: why?
[18:12:43] <netzapper> timotei: if I could just *program*, I'd be happy. But, instead, I have to deal with multiple versions of different packages, and my graphics drivers are too new for that particular rendering technique, but I need to support the older technique as well, and oh hell my input package is broken but adding a newer version breaks even the newest version of the scenegraph library... ad nauseum.
[18:13:16] <rcjsuen> Sounds more like programming is fun, but supporting my clients is not :)
[18:13:29] <rcjsuen> zing
[18:14:03] <timotei> netzapper: well... you don't like challenges? :P
[18:14:29] <netzapper> timotei: I like linear challenges. "Solve this problem, through this critical path." I dislike nebulous problems that attack from all sides at once.
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[18:15:24] <rcjsuen> No one likes to be flanked.
[18:16:08] <lemmy> netzapper: sounds like you are paying for somebody else's shortcuts. %)
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[18:19:25] <psyk0> Hi! How install plug-in (on eclipse) ?
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[18:19:43] <rcjsuen> Look under the 'Help' menu.
[18:19:51] <rcjsuen> At least, that's the standard way anyway.
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[18:20:05] <timotei> psyk0: http://www.venukb.com/2006/08/20/install-eclipse-plugins-the-easy-way/
[18:21:09] <psyk0> ok thanks timotei
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[18:21:48] <ualtin> Got a problem with eclipse.Previously when i click on a variable name all variables were highlited now it doesn't work anymore
[18:21:59] <rcjsuen> Alt+Shift+O
[18:22:35] <ualtin> rcjsuen: wow
[18:22:41] <ualtin> thank you that was that easy
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[18:24:01] <cdeszaq> Hello, I'm having problems with a couple of plugins that should add additional editors, but don't seem to be working. Specifically, I'm looking for an editor for FreeMarker and Apache Velocity.
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[19:01:27] <mpiggott>  cdeszaq: You'd have to ask the plugin makers
[19:01:49] <cdeszaq> k, thanks :)
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[19:19:43] <monk12> hey guys quick question... sometimes i have a nicely formatted query thats 10 lines long, (something small that doesn't get put in a properties file currently, so its in the java code as a String)... I want to have it nicely formatted so I paste the query in, and put sqlbuffer_variable.append("\1") to each line ... i was curious if there is a way in Eclipse to auto-build a concatinated string.
[19:20:33] <monk12> kinda like the way when you highlight many lines and do Control+/ adds comments to each line and removes comments when you do same command... but with adding/removing the buffer.appends... so you can keep nicely formatted query in java code
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[19:54:48] <briandealwis> monk12: you could look at one of the vi plugins ? they should provide something like that.  But off hand, no, I don't think there's anything.
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[19:59:49] <monk12> Cool, yeh I usually use Notepad++ for a windows GUI search and replace(or vi, but don't like to do too much source code editing in vi for fear I'll accidentally press some strange combo and that will delete new code i didn't check in and save/quit vi haha) for regex search and replace. I usually search for: (*) and replace with strbuffer.append("\1") manually now in Notepad++.
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[20:01:02] <mutable> Hello. Is it possible to implement editor or view with Swing?
[20:01:42] <rcjsuen> use the swt swing friend
[20:01:47] <rcjsuen> in short, yes
[20:01:49] <monk12> On that note.... Eclipse Galileo doesn't have a nice Search and Replace as currently have to keep clicking Find and then Replace then Find again, and it doesn't auto-jump to next match to replace if you doing a careful one by one replace. Notepad++ auto-jumps to next thing when you hit Replace, and you can just keep clicking Replace to go through em all
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[20:02:36] <rcjsuen> monk12: You mean the Ctrl+F dialog?
[20:02:56] <rcjsuen> This one? http://www.iknowkungfoo.com/images/blog/eclipse_file_search_00.gif
[20:02:58] <rcjsuen> Or the tabbed one
[20:03:07] <mutable> rcjsuen: I'm newbie to eclipse platform and I just started learning. So generally it's bad idea to use Swing in eclipse ?
[20:03:28] <rcjsuen> mutable: All I said was "yes" and "use the bridge". I didn't say it was bad.
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[20:03:58] <mutable> rcjsuen: Sorry. I thought you called me "swing friend".
[20:04:09] <rcjsuen> whoops
[20:04:18] <rcjsuen> dunno how that came out of my fingers
[20:04:22] <rcjsuen> I definitely meant to type "bridge"
[20:04:23] <rcjsuen> :(
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[20:04:38] <rcjsuen> At least I didn't type something incriminating.
[20:04:46] <mutable> it's ok :)
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[20:04:54] <mutable> thank you
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[20:05:46] <monk12> rcjsuen, the Control +F dialog, yes
[20:05:56] <rcjsuen> monk12: Why don't you just use Replace/Find (Alt+D)
[20:06:06] <rcjsuen> then it'll autojump :o
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[20:07:15] <monk12> hmmm, that doesn't map to anything in my version of Eclipse it seems. if i look under Edit->Find/Replace (Control+F).
[20:07:21] <monk12> Is that a new Helios feature?
[20:07:46] <monk12> Is there a manual way under a menu to get there?
[20:08:05] <rcjsuen> no, because the button is in dialog
[20:09:00] <rcjsuen> and fyi that button is in the dialog in Eclipse 3.1
[20:09:11] <rcjsuen> and likely even before that
[20:09:47] <monk12> rcjsuen, ... gotcha... okay I see what u mean. press Alt+D in the Dialog itself
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[20:13:59] <Webonaute> hi. when I try to format a big XML (ctrl+shift+F) eclipse stop responding and cpu use 25% all the time.
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[20:14:16] <paulweb515> ~~ Webonaute deadlock
[20:14:24] <paulweb515> ~deadlock
[20:14:24] <Arbalest> In a deadlock? http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/How_to_report_a_deadlock
[20:14:36] <paulweb515> Webonaute: a stack dump will tell you what the JVM is doing
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[22:14:43] <mnbv0987> I'm trying to install Visual Editor. The project has been archived; the update site is no longer available. If I download the archive, will it contain the files I need to install VE into Eclipse?
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[22:16:44] <mnbv0987> Alternatively, is there a newer GUI builder that can work with source files previously produced by VE?
[22:17:38] <briandealwis> mnbv0987: yup ? see WindowBuilder.  It's now an Eclipse project, donated from Google after acquiring Instantiations.
[22:17:50] <nbf> it's pimp
[22:18:15] <nbf> I was a customer before it became free
[22:18:29] <mnbv0987> briandealwis, nbf: Thanks I will check it out.
[22:18:30] <ron> briandealwis: wanted to thank you again for the plugin suggestion. I've contacted them about several bugs that were already fixed.
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[22:18:56] <briandealwis> I wonder if I can get some affiliate referral fees :)
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[22:19:47] <ron> I didn't pay them yet ;)
[22:20:12] <ron> and now I'm struggling with the checkstyle configuration. it's a bit of a pain.
[22:20:16] <ron> too much guesswork.
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[22:20:51] <briandealwis> The Maven configuration?
[22:21:26] <ron> well, I use the eclipse plugin, still a pain.
[22:21:34] <ron> even with the editor.
[22:22:26] <briandealwis> Oh.  I bookmarked a blog post a while back for whenever I get around to enabling it.
[22:22:34] <ron> hehe
[22:22:38] <ron> it's got many options
[22:22:46] <ron> but they're not always clear.
[22:23:13] <ron> it's like, I see a sample in the code I don't like.. so I try to find the relevant setting. goodluck.
[22:24:13] <briandealwis> I just set the Eclipse formatter to format-on-save
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[22:24:39] <ron> unfortunately, that's not good enough.
[22:25:20] <ron> some of our developers use intellij, and I want a global way to enforce the conventions.
[22:26:10] <nitind> not good enough to what?
[22:26:38] <ron> to enforce coding conventions in the company.
[22:26:56] <ron> it's great for getting eclipse to format the files, that's for sure.
[22:27:07] <nitind> Fold it into your build system, then.
[22:27:27] <ron> fold what into the build system?
[22:29:29] <nitind> Whatever it is that's meant to enforce the coding conventions.
[22:29:37] <nitind> Or at least complain about not following them.
[22:30:50] <ron> that's what I said.. I want to do it with checkstyle, but configuring it is a pain. it has many options, not always easy to understand which does what.. and when I see in the code something I don't like, it's very difficult to find the relevant setting for it.
[22:32:10] <mnbv0987> briandealwis (or anybody): Do you know how to tell WindowBuilder that a source file is a form that can be opened in the designer? I have all these classes generated by VE that I'd like to link to WindowBuilder's Swing designer.
[22:32:38] <briandealwis> You can always right-click and choose Open With
[22:33:04] <mnbv0987> Huh. You know I've never actually looked in that "Open With" menu before. Thanks.
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[22:35:11] <mnbv0987> Eh, some of the forms are crashing Window Builder. I think I'm just going to go the VE route for this project, Window Builder is great though.
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[22:39:23] <nbf> haha glwt
[22:40:22] <mnbv0987> Yeah, I'll need it... =/
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[22:58:00] <monocode> How do I use relative path in a Spring Eclipse project ? I have under WEB-INF a Resources directory with a file users.properties in it... I use that file in one of my DAOs but I  don't know how to specify a relative path! How to specify a relative path in my DAO so that I can get users.properties file
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[22:58:13] <monocode> Using absolute path sucks for my coworkers
[22:58:41] <monocode> Currently I use E:\\Projects\\WFM\\WebContent\\WEB-INF\\Resources\\users.resources
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[22:58:47] <monocode> but I need a relative path
[22:59:11] <nitind> Is that even an Eclipse question?  Shouldn't you just do it however the runtime specifies?
[22:59:27] <monocode> Its an Eclipse question
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[23:03:03] <monocode> I've tried WFM\\WebContent\\WEB-INF\\Resources\\users.properties and WebContent\\WEB-INF\\Resources\\users.resources and WEB-INF\\Resources\\users.resources  .. none work
[23:03:14] <monocode> arghh
[23:03:17] <nitind> Have you tried forward slashes?
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[23:03:37] <monocode> Its windblows.. so needs backslases?
[23:03:55] <monocode> but I will try..
[23:03:56] <nitind> You know, if you're going to insult something, you really should use the proper name.
[23:04:24] <nitind> Is there an application context or some object that can give you the contents as a stream instead?
[23:07:05] <monocode> I fill a Properties object from users.properties file but my DAO can't find the path.. it throws an IOException because the relative path is wrong... nevermind I will try with forward slashes and if that doesn't work I need to upgrade my google-fu skills
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