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[00:35:31] <ag4ve> i have a customized eclipse ide for embedded c for a chip (from code red if it matters). there's a 'quickstart' panel with a 'new project' wizard. it goes looking for a library and i can't figure out where it's looking for this.
[00:35:46] <ag4ve> ... is there an easy way of figuring out what it's doing?
[00:36:33] <ag4ve> s/ easy//
[00:38:17] <paulweb515_> ag4ve: you want to find the class that implements that new project wizard?
[00:38:48] <paulweb515_> ag4ve: if you have PDE installed, you can bring up the wizard and use ALT+SHIFT+F1 to find out what PDE knows about that wizard
[00:38:49] <kesselhaus> i guess, he want's to see where it searches for the external lib
[00:39:25] <paulweb515_> kesselhaus: maybe his wizard has a matching preference in WIndow>Preferences?
[00:40:46] <ag4ve> ah, should have said this is on linux.... sec
[00:42:14] <ag4ve> ah, plugin developer... guess not.
[00:42:43] <nbf> I have a custom SWT implementation and a slightly custom o.e.u.workbench bundle (that have worked fine for a while)
[00:43:10] <nbf> I switched to git and now the ide application won't launch in debug because of a CNFE for SWTError
[00:43:22] <nbf> even though in the osgi console, both bundles completely resolve
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[00:44:02] <nbf> and I've manually verified the SWTError classfiles exist and the project is on the classpath of the workbench bundle
[00:45:16] <nbf> http://pastebin.com/eijey0fK
[00:45:19] <nbf> that's the output
[00:46:08] <nbf> I've been banging my head against this for the past 4 hours
[00:46:23] <nbf> but it seems there's no way to debug this issue
[00:46:50] <nbf> I'm basically to the point where I have to connect to the vm with a debugger and hang it at main and go from there
[00:48:05] <ag4ve> ok, i see they're xml files, so in eclipse, what is ${WIZARD_home}/Include/${PARAM_script}.xml
[00:48:21] <ag4ve> ie, where do i find these variables?
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[00:56:10] <ag4ve> actually, it seems what i'm looking for is: workspace_loc:/${CMSIS_Version}/inc
[00:57:03] <ag4ve> i specify that because i'm not sure what the :/ means to eclipse. it seems that it's starting a macro with that...
[01:00:29] <kesselhaus> ${workspace_loc:/some_directory_below_your_current_workspace_directory}
[01:02:18] <nbf> is there anyway to dump the classpath of a bundle from the osgi console
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[01:13:14] <ag4ve> so, if my workspace is $USER/Documents/workspace, than that would be a directory under workspace?
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[01:13:40] <ag4ve> .... ah, stupid ass question. this is obviously completely fucked up one way or the other
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[01:15:50] <nbf> welcome to the club
[01:16:52] <Dessimat0r> lol
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[01:17:49] <nbf> I'm starting to get why the vm team really didn't want to use osgi as the basis for java's future module system
[01:18:10] <nbf> if all java apps used it, it would be a horrible curse on the java landscape
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[01:18:56] <Dessimat0r> osgi is nice :)
[01:19:14] <nbf> yeah until it stop working properly
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[01:19:27] <nbf> it's impossible to debug or atleast it makes proper debugging 100x harder
[01:19:57] <nbf> I can't remember when the last time was that I spent 5 hours getting a library dependency working
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[01:20:29] <Dessimat0r> I'm a whiz with OSGi
[01:20:35] <Dessimat0r> or I was a few years ago
[01:20:49] <Dessimat0r> could solve the problems at the drop of a hat when they happened ;)
[01:20:53] <nbf> Dessimat0r: http://pastebin.com/eijey0fK
[01:20:57] <nbf> how would you debug this
[01:20:57] <Dessimat0r> just need to know what obscure buttons to click on
[01:21:08] <nbf> the class SWTError exists on disk
[01:21:20] <Dessimat0r> well, your activator is wrong
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[01:21:56] <nbf> its the stock one that comes with o.e.ui.workbench
[01:22:03] <Dessimat0r> or the dependencies for it
[01:22:03] <nbf> it hasn't been changed or anything
[01:22:11] <Dessimat0r> hold on
[01:22:13] <nbf> the dependencies are there, they resolve in the osgi console
[01:22:23] <nbf> and on disk the class SWTError exists and is in the bin folder
[01:22:28] <Dessimat0r> did you click Add Required Plugins?
[01:22:32] <nbf> yes
[01:22:39] <nbf> let me show you
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[01:23:15] <nbf> org.eclipse.swt_3.8.0.qualifier [569] Id=569, Status=ACTIVE      Data Root=/home/tmccrary/gitworkspace/.metadata/.plugins/org.eclipse.pde.core/Twilight/org.eclipse.osgi/bundles/569/data
[01:23:45] <ScottG> Is there a way to make diagrams then export them as sql?
[01:23:47] <nbf> osgi> bundle 492
[01:23:48] <nbf> org.eclipse.ui.workbench_3.7.0.qualifier [492] Id=492, Status=RESOLVED    Data Root=/home/tmccrary/gitworkspace/.metadata/.plugins/org.eclipse.pde.core/Twilight/org.eclipse.osgi/bundles/492/data
[01:23:59] <nbf> it's resolved, the package is resolved and the class is there
[01:24:04] <nbf> yet I'm getting CNFE
[01:24:16] <nbf> and it's not a classloader visiblity thing
[01:24:34] <nbf> at least I don't see how it could be with a direct dependency that resolve the package
[01:24:53] <nbf> when I try to manually start bundle 492, i get that error
[01:25:19] <nbf> I guess one thing I could do is write a fucking custom osgi app that tries to access the same class
[01:25:23] <Dessimat0r> lol
[01:25:23] <nbf> god that's so retarded
[01:26:27] <nbf> also when I run: packages org.eclipse.swt
[01:26:43] <nbf> only the one swt bundle shows up and lists the bundles that depend on it
[01:26:52] <nbf> so it's not another rogue bundle that doesn't have the class
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[01:29:10] <nbf> but that's why osgi would be horrific if it was included in the std library
[01:30:07] <nbf> public class org.eclipse.swt.SWTError extends java.lang.Error {
[01:30:12] <nbf>
[01:30:22] <nbf> from the decompiled class in bin... it's there alright
[01:32:51] <Dessimat0r> did you calculate uses?
[01:32:58] <nbf> yep
[01:33:02] <nbf> it shows up as you'd expect
[01:33:06] <Dessimat0r> hmm
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[01:33:43] <Dessimat0r> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/mv/tree/204259/
[01:33:57] <Dessimat0r> are you using a 64-bit JDK?
[01:34:20] <nbf> yep everything is 64-bit
[01:34:40] <nbf> this is a custom SWT implementation though
[01:34:46] <Dessimat0r> then you need the correct SWT 64-bit fragments apparently
[01:34:47] <nbf> which has worked for 6 months now
[01:34:57] <Dessimat0r> hmm
[01:35:07] <nbf> it just popped on friday
[01:35:12] <nbf> and started through this error
[01:39:51] <nbf> I think I may have made a huge mistake basing our technology on eclipse
[01:40:07] <nbf> especially now that I've gotten into the core eclipse codebase and seen how it's put together
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[01:53:33] <nitind> Because of a custom SWT implementation?
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[01:54:29] <nitind> Is SWTError one of your classes in there?
[01:55:50] <Dessimat0r> maybe because you're using a custom SWT impl, it's not binding properly because of that?
[01:56:03] <Dessimat0r> maybe the osgi plugins are relying on a different SWT version
[01:56:21] <nbf> is yeah the SWTError class is there in the org/eclipse/swt folder in /bin
[01:56:22] <Dessimat0r> in the manifest?
[01:56:38] <Dessimat0r> yeah, but the classloader will reject incorrect versions
[01:56:45] <Dessimat0r> regardless of the class file being there or not
[01:56:59] <nbf> like I said earlier, only my bundle is coming up in the osgi console
[01:57:10] <nitind> nbf: Is SWTError one of your classes in there?
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[01:57:27] <nbf> and I'm not using a fragment, i.e. my org.eclipse.swt bundle is the only one in the launch environment
[01:57:56] <nbf> yeah SWTError is on the bundle classpath in eclipse and compiles fine (i.e. I can access it in bundles at compile time)
[01:58:14] <nitind> nbf: You're still exporting its package and all?  And how does o.e.u.workbench pull it in, by package or by bundle?
[01:58:29] <nbf> yeah it's exporting org.eclipse.swt
[01:58:47] <nbf> let me check with o.e.u.workbench, I believe it's a require-bundle
[01:59:04] <nbf> org.eclipse.swt;bundle-version="[3.5.0,4.0.0)",
[01:59:12] <nbf> in Require-Bundle:
[01:59:23] <nbf> it's the stock setup for org.eclipse.swt
[01:59:32] <nitind> What version does yours say it is?
[01:59:54] <nbf> 3.8.0 is my swt bundle's version
[02:00:16] <nbf> my indigo release plugins are 3.6.2 and 3.7.0
[02:00:44] <nbf> so I assume my custom SWT bundle would be chosen over those (but really in the osgi console, my o.e.swt 3.8.0 bundle is the only one listed)
[02:01:40] <nbf> http://pastebin.com/gD9fSqVt
[02:01:44] <nbf> that's my bundle
[02:02:56] <nbf> this worked for a long time too
[02:03:03] <nbf> I've worked on it for months now without an issue
[02:03:06] <nitind> Does the build.properties dump the contents of bin into . ?
[02:04:24] <nitind> You could stick a breakpoint in Class.newInstance to trigger only when name is SWTError and see what's happening.
[02:04:40] <nbf> http://pastebin.com/jPvdCiFX
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[02:05:19] <nbf> I see a class in bin and it was modified a new minutes ago
[02:05:22] <nbf> I'll try that, thanks
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[02:16:18] <nbf> so far I'm not seeing anything interesting
[02:16:44] <nbf> it's frustrating because this SWT code works perfectly standalone, I can launch my tests, ControlExamples, etc
[02:18:18] <nitind> Your tests aren't in osgi bundles?
[02:18:38] <nbf> no I mainly test the widgets without osgi or anything
[02:18:50] <nbf> even though eclipse used to work fine until the end of last week
[02:19:01] <nitind> Any idea what changed?
[02:19:14] <Dessimat0r> so another package got updated, and broke compatability when the version of your SWT bundle stayed the same
[02:19:15] <nbf> so far I havent' found anything, I've even compared in version control
[02:19:20] <Dessimat0r> and then the classloader refuses to load it
[02:19:28] <Dessimat0r> since it would cause conflictsd
[02:19:35] <nitind> Dessimat0r: ?
[02:19:44] <nbf> http://seventh-sun.com/dub/text!.png
[02:19:57] <nbf> the swt stuff itself isn't completely done but that was eclipse running it last monday
[02:20:02] <Dessimat0r> that's nice looking :D
[02:20:16] <nbf> thx, its all done with shaders and opengl :)
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[02:20:45] <Dessimat0r> nbf: shouldn't that be implemented as a -win32 style dependency though?
[02:20:51] <Dessimat0r> instead of modifing the main SWT bundle
[02:21:29] <nbf> well when I started I didn't go the proper fragment route
[02:21:42] <nbf> so it's really just because I'd never written an SWT implementation before ;)
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[02:21:51] <nbf> I'll probably refactor to a fragment in the future
[02:21:58] <Dessimat0r> ;)
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[02:23:58] <ScottG> Could anyone recomment a plugin to diagram databases that has support for exporting sql?
[02:25:36] <nitind> nbf: Has the manifest changed recently?
[02:25:49] <nbf> let me diff them, I should have done that instead of eyeballing
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[02:26:03] <nbf> because I've checked out an older one in another workspace and it's okay
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[02:31:25] <nbf> the o.e.u.workbench bundle is identical
[02:32:29] <nbf> the o.e.swt bundle is pretty similar except today I've combined a few of the bundles together (after the error occurred)
[02:32:40] <nbf> mainly just trying to simplify things, I had a separate font and util bundle that I didn't really nead
[02:32:44] <nbf> *need
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[02:33:54] <nbf> I notice that the gtk swt fragment shows up in dependcies
[02:33:56] <nbf> *dependencies
[02:34:16] <nbf> but it doesn't export any related packages (they're all internal gtk/liunx stuff like gnome, mozilla, etc)
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[02:47:27] <ScottG> Could anyone recomment a plugin to diagram databases that has support for exporting sql?
[02:50:29] <nbf> something is strange
[02:50:54] <nbf> i removed the org.eclipse.swt dependency from o.e.u.workbench and tried adding packages
[02:50:57] <nbf> import-package
[02:51:16] <nbf> but the org.eclipse.swt packages doesn't show unless I hit the show "non java" option
[02:51:39] <nbf> but those packages are clearly in source folders and they compile (and you get errors if you add a syntax error, etc)
[02:51:52] <nitind> ScottG: Maybe you should ask in the ~forums ?
[02:51:52] <Arbalest> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/
[02:52:07] <nbf> sorry "show non exported packages"
[02:52:11] <nbf> not nonjava
[02:52:40] <ScottG> nitind: Yeah. I feel like ever since I started using irc I stopped using forums because they just felt so slow lol
[02:52:41] <nitind> Say, there's not anything strange with having that leading line feed in the Export-Package header, right?
[02:53:02] <nbf> and when I delete that project it they show up again (I assume from the platform swt bundles)
[02:54:16] <nbf> nitind: yeah that was like htat
[02:55:11] <nbf> but I've changed it and the packages still don't show up as exported
[02:58:32] <nbf> okay I've added another plugin project and added some fake packages and classes
[02:58:55] <nbf> and it sees those like SWTError is no longer missing, so it errors on a fake one I didn't create like Control, etc
[02:59:06] <nbf> so there's something it doesn't like about that project
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[03:03:22] <nbf> hmm
[03:04:28] <nbf> if I name my project org.eclipse.swt everything is jacked
[03:04:35] <nbf> s/project/bundle/
[03:04:58] <nitind> jacked is...good?
[03:05:01] <nbf> no
[03:05:21] <nbf> if it's named that way now and I go to imported packages and add..
[03:05:31] <nbf> the bundles that it exports don't show up
[03:05:40] <nbf> but if I name the bundle anything else, they show up and I can add them
[03:07:54] <nbf> maybe I should just refactor into a fragment
[03:08:03] <nbf> although i know that's going to cause a ton of other issues
[03:08:20] <nbf> well I guess if I don't include the gtk fragment in my run config it shouldn't be an issue
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[03:19:45] <dcestari> hello all
[03:21:14] <dcestari> anyone here using Eclipse Birt?
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[03:39:59] <nbf> I think its actually the o.e.u.workbench plugin that's screwed up
[03:40:16] <nbf> because I can interact fine with my swt bundle with any other bundle
[03:46:43] <nitind> No hints after debugging the throwing of the error?
[03:53:05] <nbf> is there anything I should look for? I tried to drill down through the bundles and their classloaders
[03:53:25] <nbf> but after about 20-30 levels of nothing I gave up on that route
[03:55:54] <nbf> I'm now trying to refactor it into a fragment
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[04:01:57] <nbf> you know I think this is all indigo
[04:02:11] <nbf> these weird problems didn't crop up
[04:02:28] <nbf> now I'm having unrelated bundles not resolve, i.e. I can't use go to package to open them
[04:02:37] <nbf> even though they build and aren't related to these bundles at all
[04:04:33] <nbf> is there anyway to force the ide to use a specific fragment
[04:04:36] <nbf> if two of them apply
[04:04:48] <nbf> my fragment has a higher version number and the same platform filter
[04:04:54] <nbf> yet eclipse is using the other one (gtk)
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[04:10:10] <nbf> fuck i hate eclipse
[04:18:52] <nbf> pretty much any plugin project named "org.eclipse.swt" is fucked and won't show up in a plugin search when adding a require-bundle to o.e.ui.workbench
[04:20:35] <nbf> yep
[04:20:52] <nbf> I add another new plugin project called "FUCK" and that shows up fine and can be added
[04:21:12] <nbf> is "org.eclipse.swt" a reserved package name
[04:21:29] <nbf> s/package/bundle/
[04:25:29] <nbf> oh fucking fantastic
[04:25:43] <nbf> and fragment import-package statements just don't resolve
[04:25:53] <nbf> although they resolve fine in bundles in the same workspace
[04:28:58] <nbf> I think indigo isn't ready for prime time
[04:36:30] <nitind> nbf: Are you actually using gtk, or should you be defining your own "window system"?
[04:43:35] <nbf> maybe but I just looked at the SWT/QT project on google code and they took the same route I did basically
[04:43:43] <nbf> http://code.google.com/a/eclipselabs.org/p/swtqt/source/browse/org.eclipselabs.swtqt/META-INF/MANIFEST.MF
[04:46:29] <nbf> I don't know how I can define my own ws and use it inside eclipse running on gtk
[04:46:49] <nbf> my problem was that inside eclipse, it was compiling against the gtk fragment
[04:47:25] <nbf> which I have some non SWT api stuff going on in workbench for effects/compositing/animation
[04:47:48] <nbf> maybe that should just get its own bundle
[04:48:03] <nbf> but regardless here I am, like 7 hours later with the same error message
[04:48:17] <nbf> after trying hundreds of different tweaks and changes to make indigo do it's job
[04:48:21] <nbf> and it's failed miserably
[04:49:03] <nbf> I'm gonna go get some beer
[04:53:55] <nbf> nitind: thank you for your help and patience :)
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[05:34:13] <g00s> when i click on a variable in the JDT, all occurrences of that variable become highlighted. anyone know the name of that in preferences/appearances/colors ?
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[05:52:32] <nitind> g00s: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2231191/how-to-change-highlighted-occurences-color-in-eclipses-sidebar
[05:55:33] <g00s> nitind: oh, thanks !
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[06:01:42] <nbf> well. I'm done for the night
[06:01:56] <nbf> I shall endure more Bundle Torture tomorrow!
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[07:32:58] <laro> SWT question: How do you get a refference of a child inside a composite. Lets say i click on a combo box and now i would like to change the Control of the next sibling element. How do i achive that? I know i can get a refference of all children, but then what? Since i cant subclass widgets should i setData to every one like some id and then identify them by the id? Isnt there any othere more
[07:32:58] <laro> convinient method like javascrip has?
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[09:11:43] <M22> i wanna change the default icon for the JavaProject in the project explorer... how do i do it? i alsready have my own icon
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[10:06:14] <_ting_> Hello
[10:06:19] <_ting_> could anyone help me?
[10:06:38] <_ting_> I just need some name or reference to look for it in a proper way
[10:06:56] <_ting_> I am implementing an app based on Eclipse RCP
[10:07:24] <_ting_> And i would like how to find info about the Eclipse RCP context/object/resource manager
[10:07:41] <_ting_> I mean I would like to have all the data that my app will use centralized
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[10:07:54] <_ting_> so I think that eclipse allready provide something like that
[10:08:57] <_ting_> any hint?
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[10:15:29] <timotei21> hi
[10:15:45] <timotei21> the eclipse IncrementalProjectBuilder can return a project array
[10:16:00] <timotei21> how can I tell the builder that some files have not been processed
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[10:16:11] <timotei21> and to add them to the next build delta?
[10:16:59] <noo> hello. somehow my project has an error sign, but all the classes don't. There are not syntax errors and all files exist, but still the project tells me "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: main/Main
[10:16:59] <noo> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: main.Main" What can I do?
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[10:19:43] <timotei21> noo: that happens when you run a file right?
[10:19:53] <timotei21> that means you don't run a class that has a main method :p
[10:20:00] <noo> well but I do :)
[10:20:10] <noo> it's a project that i'm using with svn if that helps
[10:20:11] <timotei21> then it's not a well formed Main
[10:20:34] <timotei21> should be something: public static void main(String[] args)
[10:20:46] <noo> yes I know :) thats not the problem :)
[10:20:55] <noo> I just found in "java build path" np-project/test missing, but I don't need this test anymore.
[10:20:58] <timotei21> well... that's what the error says:P
[10:21:41] <timotei21> so you are trying to run a file that doesn't have a proper main
[10:21:47] <timotei21> that's all about the rror
[10:21:48] <timotei21> :P
[10:21:54] <noo> but thats just a test folder, that doesn't have any importance. It only contained xml files that aren't used anymore
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[10:22:07] <noo> it has a proper main!
[10:22:17] <timotei21> then you run the wrong run configuration
[10:22:25] <timotei21> do you have any items in the Problems view?
[10:22:33] <noo> just the main not found thingy
[10:22:40] <ramvi> Can I have shortcuts for two kinds of indention? I want the regular tab and a key combo for indenting by two spaces
[10:22:49] <timotei21> noo: in the Problems view??? it can't say such things there
[10:22:55] <noo> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: main/Main
[10:22:55] <noo> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: main.Main
[10:22:55] <noo> 	at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:217)
[10:22:55] <noo> 	at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
[10:22:55] <noo> 	at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:205)
[10:22:55] <noo> 	at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:321)
[10:22:57] <noo> 	at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:294)
[10:22:59] <noo> 	at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:266)
[10:23:01] <noo> Could not find the main class: main.Main. Program will exit.
[10:23:03] <noo> sorry
[10:23:05] <noo> http://pastebin.com/tGtFp2TF
[10:23:11] <noo> what is the problems view?\
[10:23:17] <timotei21> noo: well
[10:23:23] <timotei21> noo: like there is the Console View
[10:23:29] <timotei21> there is a tab with the name "Prob lems"
[10:23:46] <noo> it says
[10:23:48] <timotei21> ramvi: I don't think so.
[10:23:52] <noo> test folder is missing
[10:23:58] <timotei21> ramvi: just double space :P
[10:23:59] <noo> but I don't need it anymore, thats why I deleted it
[10:24:17] <noo> can't I tell eclipse to forget about the test folder?
[10:24:18] <timotei21> noo: ok, then maybe your main.java file is not in the src folder :P
[10:24:29] <ramvi> timotei21: I want to be able to do it for a whole paragraph of code
[10:24:44] <noo> it is
[10:25:25] <noo> I used the project with eclipse all the time, so unless eclipse decided to put everything somewhere else, everything should be in place. the only thing I did is deleting the test folder
[10:26:00] <timotei21> noo: try restarting eclipse
[10:28:00] <noo> I did and it's still the same error :(
[10:28:36] <timotei21> IDK then. check what you run :)
[10:28:41] <timotei21> maybe you try to run other project
[10:28:43] <timotei21> or so
[10:28:51] <timotei21> otherwise the error is straighforward
[10:29:16] <timotei21> ramvi: I don't think that's opssible.  - that is, without too much hassle
[10:29:28] <ramvi> timotei21: ok, thanks
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[12:18:28] <Caterpillar> anyone uses eclipse with dark background?
[12:19:03] <timotei21> Caterpillar: I've used it once but reverted to default
[12:19:24] <Caterpillar> on long programming session could be better
[12:19:26] <Caterpillar> for eyes
[12:19:32] <lourense> When I try to install I get as far as "installing Software 49%" within seconds but thereafter it does not progress...any tisuggestions?
[12:19:34] <timotei21> yes I know. MSVC has dark background
[12:19:52] <timotei21> iirc I had some problems with the dark background
[12:19:53] <timotei21> why?
[12:20:20] <timotei21> lourense: just wait. I think the thing you install has some deps and it needs to search for them
[12:20:26] <Caterpillar> to know what is the better setting to set into eclipse
[12:20:49] <Caterpillar> to have dark background and well multicoloured chars
[12:20:51] <lourense> timotei21: thanks...
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[12:21:33] <timotei21> Caterpillar: there is an extension
[12:21:37] <timotei21> Eclipse Color Themes or so
[12:21:41] <Caterpillar> ok
[12:21:43] <timotei21> that can easily swtich the theme :)
[12:21:48] <Caterpillar> well done
[12:22:42] <timotei21> Caterpillar: http://www.eclipsecolorthemes.org/
[12:22:51] <Caterpillar> thx
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[12:31:34] <Caterpillar> very cool
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[12:35:11] <nitind> laro: No, that's pretty much how you would do it unless you wrote it in such a way that the next control is visible to the listener on the combo box.
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[12:40:45] <ron> lourense: you can probably make it go faster, but the installation may fail. if you want to try it out, let me know and I'll guide you through it.
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[12:51:53] <lourense> ron: it just completed now....thanks again
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[12:53:05] <ron> lourense: great
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[13:32:36] <_sd325> I've created a maven procect with the m2e plugin, copied the complete src/main tree from project x to this one, resolved all dependencies and run mvn compile with success. but when I run the code i always get an exception, although the code is running in the other project. wwhat could be the reason?
[13:32:40] <_ting_> hi
[13:32:44] <_ting_> could anyone help me?
[13:33:02] <_ting_> i know that maybe this question is stupid
[13:33:05] <_ting_> but
[13:33:28] <rindolf> Hi all. After adding a new file to the src folder in a new Java project in Eclipse Indigo, the file does not get added.
[13:33:39] <_ting_> I know that eclipse RCP provide a system to manage in a centralized way ur data(objetcs) and make them available through out the system
[13:33:54] <_ting_> could anyone point me to the right name or concept to look for it in internet
[13:34:02] <rindolf> The src/ folder displays nothing - I'm on Mageia Linux Cauldron.
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[13:34:10] <rcjsuen> rindolf: Does it exist on disk?
[13:34:18] <rindolf> rcjsuen: I think it does.
[13:34:21] <rindolf> rcjsuen: I can edit it.
[13:34:22] <ron> _sd325: too vague.
[13:34:49] <rindolf> rcjsuen: yes, it does.
[13:35:01] <rindolf> rcjsuen: it exists on disk.
[13:37:11] <rcjsuen> Does this problem occur in a new workspace?
[13:37:30] <rindolf> rcjsuen: new workspace?
[13:37:50] <rcjsuen> What is the confusion here
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[13:39:24] <_ting_> hi guys
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[13:39:31] <_ting_> just a stupid question and short
[13:39:42] <_ting_> i only need the key to look for it in internet properly
[13:40:02] <ron> _ting_: don't repeat! if you don't get a reply, nobody knows!
[13:40:09] <ron> or maybe nobody wants to help ;)
[13:40:15] <rindolf> rcjsuen: it's OK in a new workspace.
[13:40:16] <_ting_> I am looking for a way to load my datamodel into the workspace and share with other modules
[13:40:20] <_ting_> [ron] ok
[13:40:20] <rindolf> rcjsuen: that specific problem.
[13:40:23] <_ting_> [ron] sorry
[13:40:34] <_ting_> [ron] thanks anyway
[13:40:42] <_sd325> ron: in other words: I created  new project, copied all sources from project x to this one. Always get an error from a resolved lib, although I never get this error in the other project.
[13:40:45] <rcjsuen> rindolf: I was just asking what was the confusion about my question
[13:40:49] <rcjsuen> But it seems there is no confusion here.
[13:41:28] <rindolf> rcjsuen: but now Eclipse is updating its indexes again, and there's no way to stop it.
[13:41:31] <_sd325> ron: 2 project, same sources, 1 does run, the other not
[13:41:34] <rindolf> rcjsuen: and it takes a long time.
[13:41:51] <rcjsuen> Can't say that I have that problem with my Java development.
[13:41:54] <_sd325> ron what can be the reason? all depencies are resolved
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[13:42:36] <ron> _sd325: I'm sorry, I've just been called to a meeting. will ping when I get back.
[13:42:42] <rindolf> Oh, thank goodness! It stopped now.
[13:42:57] <_sd325> ron: ok, thanks
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[13:55:57] <_sd325> ron: resolved it
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[14:43:42] <timotei> if there is anyone who could answer me to this question, I'd appreciate: http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/m/695224/#msg_695224
[14:43:43] <timotei> thanks
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[14:54:22] <ron> is that an RPC question or a general eclipse/java question?
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[15:06:20] <nitind> timotei: Pretty sure the answer is "no".  That's not what the API does.
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[15:10:20] <pulse00> i'm experiencing a very odd behavior, maybe someone can give me a hint: the plugin i'm working on extends the PHP Structured Texteditor to support a template language. Now when i select multiple lines in my editor and press <TAB> nothing happens. When i then open a PHP file, indent multiple lines using <TAB> and switch back to my editor, indenting multiple line works.
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[15:12:36] <pulse00> it seems the PHP structured editor does some kind of indentStrategy initializiation
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[15:16:05] <nitind> That's something the basic Text Editor does.  How're you missing it?
[15:16:14] <nitind> Did you forget to set up an editor contributor?
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[15:17:09] <pulse00> i don't think so. everything else works. i only have to indent multiple lines first in the PHP editor (which is the parent class of my editor)
[15:17:20] <pulse00> after that it works as expected.
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[15:17:31] <nitind> That's really weird.
[15:17:41] <nitind> Are you using the same editor contributor that it is?
[15:17:53] <pulse00> just a second.
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[15:18:39] <pulse00> nitind, yes
[15:19:02] <pulse00>  i'll look into that contributor,thanks for the hint
[15:20:08] <pulse00> nitind, just to be sure, you're talking about this here right? https://gist.github.com/1075828
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[15:33:29] <nitind> pulse00: Yes.  it may not be activating correctly when your class is the editor class.
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[15:34:26] <nitind> pulse00: And why do you (re)define an untitled PHP editor?
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[15:36:31] <TomTom> any idea where in the workspace/.metadata all the defined svn/git repos reside? i want to move/copy them from one workspace to another
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[15:36:52] <TomTom> org.eclipse.team.svn.core is empty
[15:37:09] <timotei-temp> TomTom: I think it's a matter of preferences
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[15:37:34] <pulse00> nitind, that's the editor of the php plugin
[15:37:37] <ron> you want what now?
[15:37:52] <timotei> TomTom: Try :org.eclipse.core.runtime\.settings :)_
[15:37:56] <pulse00> nitind, this is mine: https://gist.github.com/1075863
[15:38:27] <timotei> ron: really, didn't you get kicked/banned for all that trolling?
[15:38:31] <timotei> cause you should
[15:38:33] <TomTom> org.eclipse.core.runtime/.settings there it is
[15:38:39] <TomTom> timotei: thanks :)
[15:38:45] <timotei> TomTom: yw
[15:39:06] <timotei> TomTom: usually the .settings is all you should copy in the new workspace when migrating :D
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[15:42:45] <TomTom> timotei: no, i am not migrating :). i am using eclipse since 2.x and for me the best way of upgrading was always the creation of a complete fresh workspace. so i have defaults and nothing new does interfer with anything from the past.
[15:43:26] <timotei> TomTom: ah. yeah :D
[15:43:38] <timotei> TomTom: I had to do the same with my firefox profile once :(
[15:43:46] <ron> timotei: no, thank you :)
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[16:18:35] <haole> the project that i'm working is haunted... i can't get it to find my classes in the classpath, even if they are just a part of my project... what the hell could be going on?
[16:19:10] <timotei> haole: what do you mean by "i can't get it to find " ?
[16:20:53] <haole> timotei, i have some classes that have the main method implemented, but when i try to run them eclipse says it can't find the class my.package.myclass
[16:22:57] <rcjsuen> Your .class file exists on disk, yes?
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[16:23:00] <timotei> do you get a NoClassDefFound  ?
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[16:25:08] <haole> rcjsuen, yes
[16:25:13] <haole> timokpunkt, exactly
[16:25:20] <haole> timokpunkt, sorry
[16:25:23] <haole> timotei, yes
[16:25:24] <timotei> :P
[16:26:16] <timotei> and what's the complete exception message?:)
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[16:27:48] <haole> timotei, http://pastebin.com/fqhUxvUL
[16:28:23] <rcjsuen> check the ~debug-command being constructed to see what's wrong with the cp then
[16:28:23] <Arbalest> Need to find out what the command line invocation was for a process launched by Eclipse? See here - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#How_do_I_check_for_the_command_line_invocation_that_Eclipse_used_to_launch_an_application.3F
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[16:30:01] <haole> rcjsuen, don't know that you meant
[16:30:18] <rcjsuen> see what Arbalest said
[16:30:31] <timotei> haole: if you say that all classes are in the project
[16:30:57] <timotei> then either they don't get compiled (but they do, since you say that .class is there)
[16:31:04] <timotei> or you're running something different
[16:31:16] <timotei> haole: what if you invoke the project main from command line?
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[16:35:23] <lapdis> hi, is there a good integration with tomcat in eclipse?
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[16:36:05] <timotei> lapdis: http://www.mulesoft.com/tomcat-eclipse
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[16:41:28] <haole> timotei, from the command line, the application works without problems
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[16:42:21] <haole> timotei, i double checked and i was wrong: the .class for this specific class isn't getting generated... so the problem must be with my ant script, right?
[16:45:40] <timotei> ant script?
[16:45:48] <timotei> haole: go to project menu
[16:45:55] <timotei> and check: build automatically
[16:46:00] <timotei> run the app again and see if it works
[16:46:04] <haole> ok
[16:46:11] <timotei> that should be the problem
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[16:48:01] <haole> timotei, now the .class for those classes got generated, but the problem persists :(
[16:48:21] <timotei> so it's a project on it's own?
[16:48:35] <timotei> that is, the class that "doesn't exist" it's a local, from the project one?
[16:49:00] <haole> i've imported the ant script of this project... it was not created with eclipse
[16:49:10] <timotei> ant script???
[16:49:12] <timotei> for what?
[16:49:23] <haole> for compiling this project
[16:49:25] <timotei> I mean, eclipse compiles Java by itself. no need for ant
[16:49:27] <haole> building it
[16:49:29] <rcjsuen> if the class is generated and exists on disk then the command line that Eclipse is using to launch your app should offer insight on what's wrong with your cp
[16:49:52] <haole> rcjsuen, how do i see it?
[16:49:59] <timotei> haole: http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#How_do_I_check_for_the_command_line_invocation_that_Eclipse_used_to_launch_an_application.3F
[16:50:04] <rcjsuen> <rcjsuen> see what Arbalest said
[16:50:07] <haole> oh i just saw now
[16:50:08] <haole> sorry
[16:50:09] <ron> mpiggott: you around?
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[16:50:23] <mpiggott> ron: Nope!
[16:50:47] <mpiggott> ron: Whats up?
[16:51:01] <haole> got it!
[16:51:14] <timotei> haole: so, what was wrong?
[16:51:17] <haole> the classpath is wrong... its pointing to project_home/bin, but should be to project_home/build
[16:51:22] <haole> how do i change this?
[16:51:35] <timotei> lol
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[16:51:43] <timotei> bin is the "build" directory
[16:51:46] <haole> this ant script is screwing with me :)
[16:52:03] <acron17> hi there! i want to add an ui element to select a project or a folder to a dialog. the ui element should look like the one in the "New File" Dialog
[16:52:07] <haole> timotei, i know this looks very noob, but this were the instructions of the software maker
[16:52:09] <timotei> I know what's happening. You have the ant script to compile the source in build
[16:52:10] <haole> believe it or not
[16:52:19] <timotei> but you are launching it from bin ;)
[16:52:23] <haole> probably
[16:52:27] <nitind> haole: Open the Project's Properties dialog.  From the Java Build Path page, make sure the Default output folder is corrected.
[16:52:29] <timotei> so don't launch it from within eclipse then
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[16:52:43] <haole> timotei, i wanted to debug it :(
[16:52:55] <timotei> then correct the launch directory
[16:53:01] <rcjsuen> Do what Nitin said.
[16:53:03] <timotei> like nitind  said
[16:53:18] <haole> nitind, it was wrong... gonna try it now
[16:53:36] <haole> i had configured that before, but eclipse crashed some times today and i think i lost it
[16:53:58] <acron17> i looked into the source of WizardNewFileCreationPage and expected to find some selectfolder-element, but there is no. instead there is a ResourceAndContainerGroup which seems to be for internal use....
[16:54:00] <haole> working perfectly now... thanks for your patience, guys
[16:54:30] <haole> i'm gonna port this project to eclipse's build system, though
[16:55:04] <timotei> acron17: so you want just the part that selects a file/folder?
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[16:56:23] <acron17> timotei: yes. but it should look the same, that is that users can select from a list or tree and not with the browse button and new poup dialog to select the folder
[16:56:54] <acron17> like it is for the source folder of a new class for example
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[16:58:07] <timotei> acron17: just add a button and create a new ElementTreeSelectionDialog on click
[16:58:29] <timotei> at least, that's the way the Java new class does
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[17:00:17] <acron17> timotei: yes. but i do not want it that way. i want it the "New File" style not the "New Class" style
[17:00:32] <acron17> if you know what i mean ;-)
[17:01:03] <timotei> acron17: here's a tip. open the new file wizard, and press ALT+SHIFT+F1
[17:01:13] <timotei> and go to the source of that dialog and dig :D
[17:01:28] <timotei> you want to enter the class in the "Active Page" category
[17:01:30] <timotei> not active wizard
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[17:04:58] <acron17> timotei: thanks. i just tried that. i was expecting that the folder selection stuff would be standard elements available for reuse, but they aren't. it seems like the are newly composed for each dialog/wizard
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[17:06:14] <timotei> acron17: well, I would just use that. ResourceAndContainerGroup that is
[17:06:40] <rcjsuen> timotei: That's an internal class.
[17:06:59] <timotei> well, I would use it on my own risk :P
[17:07:07] <timotei> until I create a new one :P
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[17:09:02] <timotei> rcjsuen: I'm curios. Why would be such a class internal? It's not complete/good for client usage?
[17:09:21] <rcjsuen> No idea.
[17:09:28] <rcjsuen> One more thing to maintain I guess.
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[17:15:54] <acron17> timotei, rcjsuen: i'm not completely sure if ResourceAndContainerGroup represents the element i'm looking for. i'm just guessing...
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[17:23:35] <acron17> seems like that ContainerSelectionGroup really is the element what i'm looking for, but it's also internal (org.eclipse.ui.internal.ide.misc)
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[17:43:53] <ron> paulweb515: tell me which is the best eclipse plugin to reverse engineer a java project and.. let's say.. create something like a sequence diagram for it. stat!
[17:44:36] <nbf> it's a trap
[17:44:52] <nbf> eclipse plugins are the devil
[17:45:05] <nbf> at least if you're doing anything with org.eclipse.swt ;)
[17:45:13] <nbf> I nearly sliced my veins
[17:45:25] <ron> nbf: hush ;)
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[17:46:10] <timotei> ron: ArgoUml can do that
[17:48:19] <ron> timotei: will check it out, thanks.
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[18:00:43] <Thrawn> how do i get that Eclipse Welcome Page? :(
[18:01:04] <timotei> Thrawn: help->welcome page
[18:01:11] <timotei> Welcome*
[18:01:18] <Thrawn> the welcome is gray, cant click it
[18:01:25] <timotei> wow?
[18:01:31] <Thrawn> yes.
[18:01:38] <Thrawn> why is it gray?
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[18:03:11] <Thrawn> thats a tricky one eh? :P
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[18:04:05] <[twisti]> hey, is there a way to use eclipse sort of as an editor, without having to make projects and stuff ? i just want to open single source code files (php) and use code formatting, syntax highlighting, etc
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[18:05:44] <timotei> Thrawn: I never though that Welcome should be disabled ;P
[18:05:45] <timotei> IDK
[18:05:58] <timotei> [twisti]: drag & drop a file
[18:05:59] <timotei> :)
[18:06:04] <[twisti]> thatll work ?
[18:06:04] <timotei> or use the file->open
[18:06:11] <[twisti]> oh, awesome
[18:06:12] <[twisti]> thanks
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[18:07:13] <Thrawn> timotei: figured it, _with no perspectives open_ , the welcome button is gray :)
[18:07:45] <Thrawn> which is odd imo, but well
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[18:12:41] <timotei> Thrawn: yeah. You might want to file a bug
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[18:13:07] <Thrawn> i thought its a feature ~~
[18:13:13] <timotei> :))
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[18:35:31] <Thrawn> that Package Explorer view; it has a Collapse All button; is there also a expand all button?
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[18:46:33] <mart> Hi, I've created a bundle that contains a platform-specific binary.  Can anyone point me at docs on how to make it executable when it's installed?
[18:47:50] <mart> I figure I have to do something with touchpoint, and a p2.inf file, but I can't find an example.
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[18:53:09] <Thrawn> is there an expand all button for the Package Explorer?
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[18:55:31] <timotei21> Thrawn: if you have a numeic keyboard
[18:55:39] <timotei21> the * (multiply) key does that in any tree-view
[18:55:53] <Thrawn> thanks, unfortunately no :P but thanks :)
[18:55:55] <timotei21> (e.g.: in windows explorer, package explorer, )
[18:56:05] <timotei21> yeah. it's a pity the notebooks don't have such thing :(
[18:56:36] <timotei21> Thrawn: but it's a pity there is no expand all aswell :))
[18:56:41] <timotei21> I see the collapse all
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[18:56:45] <timotei21> but no expand all :(
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[18:57:32] <Thrawn> agh!
[18:57:42] <Thrawn> my german keyboard has a * in there!
[18:57:46] <rcjsuen> Can't say I've ever wanted that button.
[18:57:57] <timotei> rcjsuen: collapse all or expand all?
[18:58:02] <rcjsuen> expand
[18:58:03] <Thrawn> im longing for it!
[18:58:09] <rcjsuen> I don't use collapse much either :o
[18:58:25] <rcjsuen> I guess if you don't have a lot of projects and folders and files it's not a big deal.
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[19:35:23] <FunnyLookinHat> I'm trying to figure out how to run my eclipse projects from the command line - javac -> java seems to always complain about NoClassDefFoundError - even though my projects run fine through the eclipse toolset
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[19:36:33] <timotei21> FunnyLookinHat: this is a Java-specific question
[19:36:42] <timotei21> if you compile to a jar you need to specify the manifest file
[19:36:59] <timotei21> otherwise, you have invoked the wrong way the project
[19:37:08] <paulweb515> FunnyLookinHat: run your projects, or compile your projects from the command line
[19:37:08] <nitind> FunnyLookinHat: Are you specifying the project's output folder as part of the classpath?
[19:37:13] <timotei21> FunnyLookinHat: http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#How_do_I_check_for_the_command_line_invocation_that_Eclipse_used_to_launch_an_application.3F
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[19:38:59] <FunnyLookinHat> Ah ok
[19:39:00] <FunnyLookinHat> Thanks !
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[19:40:56] <FunnyLookinHat> timotei21, Yeah that was exactly what I needed :D
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[20:17:42] <imacake> gello people!
[20:18:12] <imacake> (*hello). im on linux using GNOME and eclipse 32bit 3.6 JDT
[20:18:53] <imacake> when i want to change text fonts, it always stays some same, 10-11 sized system default font
[20:19:03] <imacake> i'd like Monospace 9
[20:19:26] <imacake> i can change the Block selection font, and it works. if i change the Text font, it just doenst take effect!
[20:19:27] <imacake> help!
[20:20:57] <imacake> everything is very fine. just getting that bug. comeon please
[20:23:20] <Verkel> Maybe it's a bitmap font that doesn't scale?
[20:23:32] <Verkel> Try other fonts
[20:24:00] <imacake> Verkel: i tried Moon phases. in gedit my text really turns into moons, haha
[20:24:07] <imacake> but in eclipse not a single pixel changes
[20:24:25] <imacake> the editor is active, it didnt hang up, i can still scroll. the font is just brain-dead'd
[20:24:43] <Verkel> Oh it doesn't even change the font. Dunno about that, then
[20:25:05] <imacake> please
[20:25:09] <imacake> =(
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[20:25:40] <Verkel> Somebody using Gnome would probably know better. I'm on Win7.
[20:26:43] <imacake> =\
[20:27:21] <imacake> then i guess a project is more important than expressing the love to linux in the last 24 hours...
[20:27:26] <imacake> thanks for trying
[20:27:41] * imacake mac's
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[20:28:37] <Thrawn> damn
[20:28:56] <Thrawn> im a gnomer i could have hlped maybe <.<
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[20:44:31] <ron> any way to disable the security warning when installing new plugins?
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[20:53:33] <briandealwis> ron: yes; I believe zx posted about it to his blog a while back
[20:53:58] <ron> briandealwis: good to know :)
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[20:55:13] <briandealwis> ron: http://aniszczyk.org/2010/05/20/p2-and-the-unsigned-dialog-prompt/
[20:55:38] <ron> oh, danke.
[20:56:36] <ron> maybe you're on a roll.. are you familiar with a free eclipse plugin to reverse engineer source files to a sequence diagram / anything visually appealing to browse the code? :)
[20:56:38] <white_magic> hey guys, i'm trying to install Subclipse by following this tutorial: http://jdownloader.org/knowledge/wiki/development/get-started , but I keep getting "Cannot complete the install because one or more required items could not be found." when it gets to the install stage. I'm using 'Eclipse for java developers' latest version, btw.
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[20:56:57] <ron> white_magic: can you pastebin the full error?
[20:58:18] <white_magic> when you said 'full error', i realized i can scroll down.. and there's more to the error. let me trying something..
[20:58:38] * ron nods
[20:58:54] <white_magic> nm.. i give up: http://pastebin.com/upeDBWP9
[20:59:17] <white_magic> i tried adding http://org.maven.ide.eclipse to available sources, but it didnt help/work
[20:59:18] <briandealwis> ron: there was a nifty plugin called Relo, but it seems to have disappeared
[20:59:44] <ron> disappeared? not good :-/
[20:59:53] <ron> I'm having a really hard time following the full code scheme.
[21:00:45] <ron> white_magic: which plugin are you trying to install?
[21:01:08] <briandealwis> white_magic: that's not a valid hostname.  I'm not surprised it didn't work.  Try "http://download.eclipse.org/technology/m2e/milestones/1.0" instead
[21:01:18] <white_magic> alright, ty
[21:01:18] <ron> no need to add that.
[21:01:21] <white_magic> oh
[21:01:23] <ron> not necessarily, anyways.
[21:01:35] <ron> which eclipse version do you have?
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[21:02:25] <white_magic> anyway i was trying to install 'cover svnkit lib, opt. jna lib, subclipse' and i have 'eclipse ide for java devs build'
[21:02:53] <white_magic> build 20110615-0604
[21:03:02] <ron> so... indigo?
[21:03:03] <briandealwis> good point ron, he seems to have the Java package
[21:03:19] <ron> briandealwis: http://relo.csail.mit.edu/ <-- is that it?
[21:03:42] <briandealwis> ron:  yup
[21:04:05] <ron> briandealwis: seems like it's no longer developed, but the same people may have created a commercial product to extend it.
[21:04:27] <briandealwis> Yep, though it doesn't have the exploratory feel to it
[21:04:27] <ron> I know I can get my boss to drop a few dollars on it if it's useful enough for me.
[21:04:39] <ron> as long as it doesn't cost 10,000$ :)
[21:04:40] <briandealwis> But it does do sequence diagrams too
[21:04:50] <white_magic> yes
[21:04:54] <ron> the Relo or the one based on it?
[21:04:59] <white_magic> yes, indigo
[21:05:35] <ron> white_magic: well, that means you should have the indigo update site and so the access to m2e. not sure why any of those plugins would depend on m2e though.
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[21:06:44] <ron> I love it when websites of commercial products hide the cost of their apps.
[21:08:15] <ron> oh wow. that's a hefty price tag.
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[21:09:25] <ron> white_magic: do you have m2e installed already?
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[21:10:36] <white_magic> sry was afk.. let me check
[21:10:54] <mpiggott> I believe that is a negation
[21:11:23] <ron> mpiggott: you callin' me negative? ;)
[21:11:50] <mpiggott> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=350645
[21:12:13] <ron> ~350645
[21:12:14] <Arbalest> Bug 350645 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=350645 - Equinox / p2 / 3.7 - PC / Linux - RESOLVED / FIXED / major / - Assignee: pascal - [shared] Java package can't install because of dependency on m2e
[21:12:28] <ron> Fixed!
[21:12:53] <mpiggott> Yes, but unless you use an I-build it won't  be available until sr1 I would assume
[21:13:17] <ron> oh. right. Juno M1.
[21:13:26] <white_magic> i actually have 10 m2e plugins installed
[21:13:28] <white_magic> it turns out
[21:13:57] <ron> that... makes no sense.
[21:15:19] <white_magic> well, they're there by default
[21:15:21] <white_magic> this is a fresh install
[21:15:43] <ron> m2e isn't installed by default...
[21:15:52] <mpiggott> ron: It is part of the Java package
[21:16:00] <ron> really?
[21:16:19] <ron> it's part of the java package but not of the jee package?
[21:16:21] <mpiggott> It makes sense, the current m2e in the Eclipse namespace (org.eclipse.m2e) has a negation on the old namespace (org.maven.ide) so they both can't be installed at the same time
[21:16:26] <mpiggott> ron: I believe so
[21:16:34] <ron> um, why?
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[21:16:42] <mpiggott> Why what?
[21:16:53] <ron> why is it included in one and not the other?
[21:17:39] <mpiggott> No clue, size constraints?   I think the different packages have different owners
[21:17:48] <ron> I find it funny that the cvs plugin is installed by default.
[21:18:12] <ron> I thought the jee package is based on the java package. guess not.
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[21:18:54] <white_magic> i suppose i need to uninstall m2e and install the m1(?)e to make this owrk
[21:19:04] <ron> hehe
[21:19:07] <ron> no
[21:19:40] <ron> mpiggott: can you think of a workaround to the bug?
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[21:23:41] <mpiggott> I think it depends on what you're trying to do, in the linked bug Pascal suggests starting from a package that doesn't include m2e (ie SDK) but its more a response for someone who was trying to build a custom Eclipse distribution.  The equivalent might be to download the Eclipse SDK (which doesn't include m2e) and install into it.
[21:24:14] <ron> what about uninstalling the m2e plugin?
[21:24:42] <white_magic> i'll give it a try
[21:25:15] <ron> white_magic: not sure if it'll work. mpiggott is one of the m2e developers...
[21:26:12] <mpiggott> ron: I would assume that you can't remove m2e, I would assume it isn't a root IU
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[21:27:05] <ron> mpiggott: afair, I had no trouble uninstalling prepackaged plugins from some eclipse packages. could be mistaken though.
[21:28:50] <mpiggott> ron: It will depend on how it was packaged, if you go to the Help > About > Insallation Details, and there is only one item (that can be exapanded) then I would assume nothing can be removed
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[21:29:13] <ron> maybe it's worth a try..
[21:29:25] <ron> though I see your point.
[21:29:34] <white_magic> i dont see anything i can expand in installation details
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[21:30:07] <ron> white_magic: do you see the m2e plugin in the main list of plugins or is it under any other plugin?
[21:31:15] <white_magic> well, i see it under 'Plugin Registry'
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[21:32:29] <anti-pattern> can i make eclipse globally ignore certain files (like vi-created *~ backups).  i know i can make source control ignore them under Team > Ignored Resources, but i never want to see them at all
[21:33:11] <ron> anti-pattern: you can filter out files you don't want to see.
[21:34:01] <ron> white_magic: then you most likely can't uninstall it.
[21:34:17] <ron> briandealwis: this plugin thingie is interesting.
[21:34:40] <white_magic> yea, it seems like it. i just dont know why this doesn't work as its supposed to. that tutorial on jdownloader's site is fairly recent
[21:34:45] <briandealwis> the Architexa?
[21:35:40] <ron> briandealwis: yeah. still now sure how to use it, but I'm exploring it a little.
[21:35:41] <anti-pattern> ron: where do i do this?
[21:35:56] <ron> anti-pattern: depends on which view you want to filter it from. which view is that?
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[21:36:15] <anti-pattern> ah, like add a filter to the package explorer
[21:36:28] <ron> anti-pattern: yeah
[21:36:59] <ron> white_magic: well, if it's a bug in the indigo java package... unfortunately there's not much you can do about it.. besides getting a different package. sorry :-/
[21:37:03] <anti-pattern> ok, has to be done at the view-level, can't be done globally.  i guess that's reasonable, i mostly only use one or two navigation views anyway
[21:37:20] <ron> I find it a bit odd they didn't push the bug fix if it's a blocking bug.
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[21:38:20] <xuc_> Hi i need to implement drag and drop from a GEF editor to a view, what's the best way of doing it? i've read some forum posts but didn't find a good solution
[21:39:04] <ron> okay, my dog insists I take her for a walk. bbiab.
[21:42:10] <nitind> ron: Which bug?
[21:42:13] <nitind> xuc_: http://www.eclipse.org/articles/Article-GEF-dnd/GEF-dnd.html
[21:42:16] <mpiggott> white_magic: What was the actual step that caused you the problem
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[21:43:47] <white_magic> mpiggott: when I attempted to install 'cover svnkit lib, opt. jna lib, subclipse' from 'http://subclipse.tigris.org/update_1.6.x', using this guide: http://jdownloader.org/knowledge/wiki/development/get-started
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[21:44:31] <white_magic> it hanged when the required dependency was maven (1) and m2e is default for the latest version of indigo eclipse i guess
[21:44:55] <mpiggott> white_magic: Weird, it worked for me.  Are you using a shared install (ie, it is read-only for the user)
[21:45:14] <zacktu> i have an exclamation point beside a project name -- apparently a build error -- how can i find the error message?
[21:45:35] <mpiggott> zacktu: problems view
[21:46:15] <white_magic> shared install of eclipse? i dont think so.. its 'eclipse for java developers' (windows 32-bit)
[21:46:59] <mpiggott> white_magic: Yes, but did you put it in a read-only location, eg. Program Files
[21:47:09] <white_magic> ahhh i see what you're saying.. yes
[21:47:14] <white_magic> that could be an issue
[21:47:53] <white_magic> what do you know.. the eclipse folder is set to 'read-only' by default
[21:48:04] <white_magic> i think you figured it out, thanks
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[21:49:16] <white_magic> well, the error persists
[21:49:33] <white_magic> even after i disabled 'read-only' on the eclipse folder
[21:51:55] <white_magic> hey, i finally got it sorted out
[21:52:07] <mpiggott> white_magic: Not sure what else to suggest, I downloaded the Java package, unziipped & installed w/o issue
[21:52:13] <white_magic> i need to run eclipse as administrator
[21:52:17] <white_magic> *needed
[21:52:18] <zacktu> mpiggott: The only message in Problems View is  "The project cannot be built until build errors are resolved."  This is a whole directory that I imported as a complete hierarchy.  Thought I'd done it the way I've always done it before.  I'll have another look.  Thanks.
[21:52:21] <white_magic> that was the problem apparently
[21:52:49] <mpiggott> zacktu: That usually means something on the build path is missing
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[21:54:02] <mpiggott> white_magic: Because its in a location you don't have permission to write to :p
[21:55:15] <ron> nitind: ~350645
[21:55:15] <Arbalest> Bug 350645 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=350645 - Equinox / p2 / 3.7 - PC / Linux - RESOLVED / FIXED / major / - Assignee: pascal - [shared] Java package can't install because of dependency on m2e
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[21:58:23] <pulse00> anyone in here ever implemented a StructuredEditor foldingStrategy ?
[21:59:40] <nitind> You mean a StructuredTextEditor's foldingStrategy?
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[22:01:35] <pulse00> yeah
[22:01:55] <ron> hmpf. stupid servers.
[22:02:05] <ron> nitind: did you get which bug?
[22:02:36] <ron> briandealwis: the layered diagram is a nice tool.
[22:02:44] <pulse00> basically i'm trying to extend the org.eclipse.wst.xml.ui.internal.projection.XMLFoldingStrategy, but i can't find the source code
[22:03:15] <briandealwis> ron: you should provide them the feedback; I believe one of their engineers has been posting to his blog (and thence to Planet Eclipse) wanting feedback
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[22:04:30] <ron> briandealwis: yeah.. it doesn't support user-defined annotations, but I think this could be a tool to browse through the code easily. see what depends on what in a graphical way.
[22:05:11] <briandealwis> ron: since you have money, I'm fairly certain they'd entertain adding features :)
[22:05:32] <ron> briandealwis: hehe, I still need to be sure it provides the added value I seek.
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[22:09:09] <ron> briandealwis: ooh.. just found an odd dependency :)
[22:09:46] <ron> briandealwis: I think they request a hefty price tag for the plugin though.
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[22:16:42] <ron> briandealwis: thanks for the hint about this plugin. it may possibly be just what I was looking for (otherwise known as, "good enough") :)
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[22:18:30] <briandealwis> ron: I'm sure they'd appreciate that kind of feedback too.  $249/per seat/year for a well-thought out exploration and diagramming tool doesn't seem too bad for a commercial development tool.  I'm sure it's well under your wage for a single day, and if it helps you get things figured out faster...
[22:19:04] <mpiggott> pulse00: http://www.grepcode.com/search/?query=org.eclipse.wst.xml.ui.internal.projection.XMLFoldingStrategy
[22:19:49] <mpiggott> Actually, nm, didn't look close enough ;)
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[22:20:13] <ron> briandealwis: hmm.. that... 250$/day wage you're talking about... is that per day or per working day? before or after taxes?
[22:20:47] <tholl583xx> i want to make a change to the AntAntNode java source, is that in the eclipse sdk or the platform sdk?
[22:20:55] <rcjsuen> ron: Brian said per seat for a year
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[22:21:10] <rcjsuen> i.e. one machine is licensed to operate that application for one year
[22:21:16] <ron> rcjsuen: re-read Brian's comment to understand mine.
[22:21:44] <rcjsuen> ron: He means you probably earn more than one dollar a day.
[22:21:56] <ron> rcjsuen: I know. I was trying to see if he's right :p
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[22:22:03] <rcjsuen> tho 250 a day
[22:22:09] <rcjsuen> so that's like 30 some dollars an hour
[22:22:40] <rcjsuen> i knew ppl that worked for MS/Google as interns that alrdy got paid more than that
[22:23:00] <ron> rcjsuen: well, wages are different at different geographical locations.
[22:23:11] <rcjsuen> ron: quite
[22:23:14] <rcjsuen> i got, uh...
[22:23:23] <rcjsuen> i guess i should bring up xe.com :)
[22:23:30] <briandealwis> ron: sorry, I figured from your sense of humour that you were western european...
[22:23:54] <ron> briandealwis: you callin' me French?
[22:23:57] <ron> ;)
[22:24:09] <ron> and I wonder if I should be offended by that :p
[22:24:31] <rcjsuen> iirc my wage was about 750 USD a month when I worked as an intern at HSBC in HK
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[22:25:11] <ron> well, then 250$ is far more than what your monthly wage then :)
[22:25:25] <rcjsuen> well, I'm a disposable intern :)
[22:25:35] <rcjsuen> they don't need me
[22:25:35] <briandealwis> ron: no insult ? but you often kick off before the end of an EST working day.  Unless you're one of those maritimer canucks?
[22:25:42] <rcjsuen> they need a "well-thought out exploration and diagramming tool" :)
[22:25:55] <xuc_> nitind: that article doesn't help, i need the ability to use the GEF editor as source, and in the same time, retain the ability to move objects within the GEF editor itself.
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[22:26:15] <ron> briandealwis: nah, I'm not from Canadia... that's for the IBM-ish eclipse lads here.
[22:26:25] <ron> briandealwis: I'm more... middle-eastern :)
[22:26:26] <rcjsuen_> we're a global team :(
[22:26:35] <ron> rcjsuen_: are you not in Canadia?
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[22:26:53] <rcjsuen_> I am, but we have ppl in Zurich for instance.
[22:27:02] <xuc_> nitind:  as you know, if a drag source listener is added to the GEF editor, the drag tracker in the editor is not working anymore
[22:27:02] <ron> who are in the channel?
[22:27:12] <ron> is nitind not in Canadia?
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[22:27:16] <ron> paulweb515?
[22:27:23] <rcjsuen_> No Nitin is in North Carolina
[22:27:25] <tholl583xx> if i go to updates i can see that there is an eclipse SDK and a eclipse platform SDK, whats the difference?
[22:27:28] <rcjsuen_> Paul is two offices to my right :)
[22:27:40] <ron> so go smack him for me ;)
[22:27:44] <Thrawn> lol
[22:27:44] <rcjsuen_> he alrdy went home :(
[22:27:50] <ron> what?!
[22:27:57] <rcjsuen_> and it's time for me to go home too
[22:28:04] <ron> well, IBM. Can't expect more than that.
[22:28:05] <ron> :p
[22:28:07] * ron ducks
[22:28:11] <briandealwis> tholl583xx: Platform SDK only includes Equinox, Platform, SWT, Platform UI, I believe.  the Eclipse SDK includes PDE and JDT's SDKs
[22:28:13] <rcjsuen_> you know us
[22:28:29] <ron> I've worked with IBM's products and IBM's people for many many years.
[22:28:49] <briandealwis> rcjsuen_ and paulweb515 seem to answer questions at all hours, however
[22:28:56] <rcjsuen_> to be fair Paul is usually in before 7 and i get in around 7 that's why we're usually around earlier
[22:29:22] <ron> yeah.. IBM employees are known to act as if they're 80 even when they're 30.
[22:29:26] * ron ducks yet again!
[22:29:37] <rcjsuen_> i'm 25, how old should i act :o
[22:29:38] <ron> kidding, of course.
[22:29:50] <ron> you're 25? you should act with more respect, then ;)
[22:29:52] <briandealwis> see there's that western european humour :)
[22:30:22] <ron> humour... are you... one of... 'them'?
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[22:31:38] <ron> did I kill the mood? :-/
[22:31:40] <briandealwis> western european?  Kinda.  I'm a strange mix of sri lankan, scottish, english, and something else, married to an english lady with the same mixed background.
[22:32:02] <ron> So you *are* an islander!
[22:32:51] <briandealwis> I guess historically, yes.  Now I'm just a canuck (and a former IBMer too)
[22:33:00] <briandealwis> Well, it was still OTI in those days.
[22:33:17] <ron> one of those companies IBM consumed?
[22:33:48] <briandealwis> Yup.  OTI's what went on to develop most of Eclipse.
[22:34:22] <ron> But not Visual Age, right?
[22:34:47] <briandealwis> Or maybe more accurately, many of the initial Eclipse committers were OTIers.  Though a lot of them have now begun to move elsewhere
[22:35:18] <ron> I have to admit I was shocked at first by the 'eclipse' name. Felt it has a negative meaning.
[22:35:33] <ron> Surprised puns are not made about it more often.
[22:36:05] <ron> where do you work now, if you don't mind me asking?
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[22:36:28] <briandealwis> I don't know where the name came.
[22:37:00] <briandealwis> I loitered in academia for a while and then started my own company (mt.ca).  I've put out a product (kizby.com) and do some Eclipse consulting too
[22:37:14] <ron> I guess it's better than calling it 'Sunshine'... that sounds a bit.. well.. you know.
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[22:38:40] <briandealwis> ron: and where are you working now?  You mentioned a while back that you'd changed jobs
[22:38:53] <ron> briandealwis: vidmind.com
[22:39:04] <ron> not much there, but you can get the general field.
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[22:41:00] <ron> I love task managers. I've yet to find the ultimate one for me, though there are a few good ones out there.
[22:41:42] <briandealwis> you should give Kizby a try then (but I will cease plugging it now)
[22:42:05] <ron> nah, I will give it a try. I'm curious to see the product.
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[22:42:36] <briandealwis> Getting actual feedback is the hardest part ? hence why I was pushing you to provide feedback to Architexa.
[22:42:44] <ron> anyways, I should be going now... getting late and I wanna watch a tv episode before I go to sleep.
[22:42:54] <ron> oh, don't worry. I know that feedback is important.
[22:43:23] <ron> I try to provide feedback when I can, as it's the only way for the providers to know what's bugging people or what they like.
[22:43:42] <ron> it's like not filing bugs, and hoping someone else will do it.
[22:43:58] <ron> which reminds me I need to open a bug on m2e :-/
[22:44:01] <briandealwis> though it is kinda :)
[22:44:06] <ron> will try to do it over the weekend.
[22:45:23] <ron> anyways, thanks again for the assistance, and I'll be sure to check out Kizby. goodnight!
[22:47:41] <reisi> should there be something weird getting a ScrolledComposite *fit* inside a TabFolder?
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[22:48:13] <briandealwis> reisi: IMHO ScrolledComposites are fiendishly difficult to get right
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[22:48:34] <reisi> briandealwis: yeah, i've noticed too, in the past 2 hrs
[22:48:35] <linxeh> meh I need to add this channel to my autojoins
[22:48:41] * briandealwis should finish writing that stupid blog article on ScrolledComposite
[22:48:57] <linxeh> briandealwis: we have a WorkingScrolledComposite class at work :/
[22:49:07] <reisi> linxeh :D
[22:49:07] <briandealwis> reisi: I found I have to set up a resize listener on the SC to do a forcible relayout for it to work correctly.
[22:49:18] <linxeh> the javadoc is a piece of poetry about the SWT connundrum
[22:49:20] <linxeh> :/
[22:49:28] <nbf> SWT connundrum!
[22:49:35] <linxeh> :)
[22:49:40] <nbf> I know how that goes
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[22:49:51] <reisi> briandealwis: interesting, if I do that, my scrolledComposite grows without unlimitedly
[22:50:08] <reisi> s/without//
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[22:50:37] <linxeh> does anyone here do much with RCP development? I'm having problems with indigo I didnt have with helios relating to the PDE. I have a system property defined via VM argument on the launch configuration tab, which contains spaces. it doesnt work in indigo - fine with galileo and helios though.
[22:50:42] <reisi> briandealwis: though, i'm working with miglayouts, which might add their own speciality
[22:51:05] <linxeh> I get a NoClassDefFoundError with the word after the 1st space in my VM arg
[22:51:25] <briandealwis> reisi: SC uses its own layout and ignores attempts to set a different layout, IIRC
[22:51:49] <reisi> briandealwis: correct (ignores while it should perhaps throw an exception) but i meant for the children of SC
[22:52:16] <briandealwis> reisi: I can't imagine that really being any different than a GridLayout or anything else though
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[22:53:06] <reisi> briandealwis: you are probably right.. and i'm pretty sure i've almost exhausted all miglayout layouting options by now
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[22:53:45] <briandealwis> reisi: I set: both expandHorizontal and expandVertical to true, and on resize I do 'scrolledComposite.setMinSize(detailsControl.computeSize(scrolledComposite.getClientArea().width, SWT.DEFAULT));'
[22:54:25] <rcjsuen> ron: Yes, I should be more respectful. I had feedback from one of my EclipseCon talks that I was a condescending speaker :o
[22:54:35] <reisi> briandealwis: details being the scrolledComposite's only child and SC#setContent(..)?
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[22:54:43] <briandealwis> reisi: yup
[22:55:00] <briandealwis> reisi: that's the foul-tasting magic sauce that took weeks of experimentation and frustration to discover.
[22:55:11] <rcjsuen> yes SC is quite hard to tame
[22:55:18] <briandealwis> I'm sure others have figured out better solutions.
[22:55:46] <briandealwis> rcjsuen: you certainly don't come across as condescending on IRC.  Authoritative is the word I'd use.
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[22:56:04] <reisi> briandealwis: having added such ControlListener SC now grows unlimitedly horizontally AND gives me a horizontal scrollbar :)
[22:56:13] <briandealwis> rcjsuen: ?which is a good thing, in my books
[22:56:39] <rcjsuen> briandealwis: it was my compat layer talk, i had examples of some coding patterns that caused failures (efven though the code is using only api)
[22:56:44] <rcjsuen> briandealwis: i guess i was putting ppl down that way :)
[22:56:50] <briandealwis> reisi: huh.  Glad I'm not having that problem.
[22:57:41] <briandealwis> reisi: it may be the layout of your content is producing bogus numbers for the compute size
[22:58:03] <reisi> briandealwis: trying that now, changing to fillLayout and rowLayout
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[22:59:29] <briandealwis> rcjsuen: I've been tagged by the condescending label; I actually found out who it was, and anybody would have been perfectly in their rights to be condescending to that stupid clod :)
[23:00:01] <rcjsuen> zing
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[23:03:57] <reisi> hmm, for an empty SC#setContent with FillLayout but no children the computed size jumps up from {0,0,29,10} to {0,0,772,42} when i select the tab (it's initially hidden)
[23:04:22] <nitind> pulse00: It's in the /cvsroot/webtools repository, in the project sourceediting/plugins/org.eclipse.wst.xml.ui
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[23:06:12] <linxeh> hmm :
[23:06:18] <nitind> Even more accurately, yes, OTI did lots of VisualAge.  Parts of it were done where I am.  One part was even done by me.
[23:06:57] <briandealwis> reisi: I'm assuming that 772x42 sizing is not the SC's client area size?
[23:07:12] <nitind> xuc_: I did not know that.  Have you looked at whether there's any drag and drop done in the Logic Example?
[23:07:32] <linxeh> does anyone know what the PDE does to initialise the Application (ie how it goes from the .product definition of the application to a running app - what classes deal with that?)
[23:07:46] <linxeh> or shall I just start exploring the PDE plugins for interesting classes ?
[23:08:48] <xuc_> nitind:  i have not, it's rare occasion to use GEF as drag source so i'll check that
[23:09:00] <reisi> briandealwis: i read the numbers in wrong direction; clientArea *before* setMinSize is 772x42, computeSize returns 776x10 (the reason why I have that horiz scrollbar)
[23:09:35] <nitind> xuc_: WTP's Snippets view is a drag source, but it's using a palette viewer directly, not an editor.
[23:09:55] <xuc_> what i think will use now is the SHIFT and drag, which is mentioned in a couple posts, i have not seen one example that the gef dnd can be used both in and out of the editor
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[23:10:24] <briandealwis> reisi: it might well be that FillLayout doesn't properly behave when there are no children to manage.
[23:10:58] <briandealwis> I recall Group doesn't like not having an item
[23:11:10] <briandealwis> It might not be the layout but Composite
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[23:11:36] <briandealwis> I have some code somewhere that adds an empty label to an empty Group to ensure it sizes properly
[23:11:41] <nitind> xuc_: I don't know of any reason why it shouldn't work, do you?
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[23:16:14] <reisi> hmm for some reason i think that my nouveau drivers are just about to stop dealing with 32k width gtk components :)
[23:17:26] <ron> rcjsuen: heh, I can't even count the number of times I've been called condescending. it's actually quite amusing how things can be interpreted differently by different people.
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[23:27:53] <noo> hello. how can I create an executable jar file from my java code? I tried it with project->export->java->jar, but somehow it throws not found errors, when I execute the jar with "java name.jar parameters"
[23:28:51] <ron> java -jar name.jar parameters
[23:30:36] <noo> ron: Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from
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[23:31:18] <ron> project->export->java->runnable jar file
[23:31:37] <noo> ah ok
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[23:35:04] <noo> ron: thanks it works
[23:35:15] <ron> great.
[23:35:38] <ron> now you won't miss your submission deadline ;)
[23:36:41] <noo> ron: thanks it's in 20 minutes ;)
[23:36:50] <ron> hehe
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[23:58:40] <tholl583xx> ive installed both eclispe SDK and the eclispe platform SDK but i dont get no joy when searching for AntEditorContentOutlinePage.java
[23:59:51] <ron> try downloading the source code?





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