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[00:13:47] <fbricon> rcjsuen: maven uses actions, I use commands, so it's a bit different. The URI I got from Eclipse Spy
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[00:55:14] <_MIG_> I'm a bit confused about eclipse classic vs. Eclipse IDE for JavaScript Web Developers
[00:55:32] <_MIG_> is the javascript eclipse simple eclipse with javascript plugins prepackaged ?
[00:56:17] <_MIG_> The trouble that I am having is.  I want to work on an android project (java) and use phongap (javascript).
[00:57:39] <_MIG_> I would like to take advantage of the jquery plugins for the eclipse javascript editor  but I can't seem to get it (the javascript eclispe) to find the java libraries needed by android.
[00:58:13] <_MIG_> I am thinking I have am misunderstanding of what eclipse vs. eclipse javascript is.
[01:01:04] <nitind> Certainly between Classic and that one.  ~compare
[01:01:04] <Arbalest> Wondering what the difference between all those Eclipse packages are or wondering what's included in them? See here - http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/compare.php
[01:02:21] <nitind> _MIG_: Recommend http://help.eclipse.org/indigo/topic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.user/tasks/tasks-124.htm to add JDT to your exising install.
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[01:34:57] <rcjsuen> fbricon: if you use after=additions does anything happen
[01:41:31] <fbricon> rcjsuen: nothing happens
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[08:08:47] <bobsaccamano> hi..im using helios with ADT for android dev and there is no syntax highlighting or code completion for android libs. anyone care to help?
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[08:10:42] <bahodir> hi guys, how do I preselect a multiline text in an eclipse template?
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[08:23:46] <nitind> bobsaccamano: what do you mean "android libs"?
[08:24:50] <bobsaccamano> nitind: android classes like TextView etc. and methods like setText, setContentView etc.
[08:25:12] <bobsaccamano> nothing is highlighted and there is no auto completion
[08:25:17] <bobsaccamano> its like using notepad
[08:25:33] <nitind> And yet they're on the Java Build Path?
[08:25:58] <bobsaccamano> yes
[08:26:18] <nitind> Weird.
[08:26:34] <nitind> Bug report time to the Android folks.
[08:26:35] <bobsaccamano> probably some eclipse configuration is incorrect, but Im new to both android and eclipse..
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[08:28:29] <bobsaccamano> how do I confirm that my config is fine?
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[08:29:10] <nitind> Beats me.
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[10:20:30] <incorrect> is it possible to show the col number, i think just an col: 80 marker would be nice
[10:23:25] <ron> incorrect: you want to see a fixed column marker or just see the current column you're at?
[10:23:58] <incorrect> a col80 marker would be perfect, the row,col at the bottom is easily missed
[10:25:52] <ron> Go to Window->Preferences->General->Editors->Text Editors, check the 'Show Print Margin', set whichever column width you want.
[10:27:38] <ron> incorrect: ^
[10:27:52] <incorrect> thanks
[10:28:06] <ron> didn't even know this option exists :p
[10:29:24] <incorrect> i am runnning pylint and my lines are too long, so it says,
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[10:30:16] <incorrect> pretty neat this eclipse thing once you get it configured
[10:32:08] <ron> it's fairly versatile.
[10:32:14] <incorrect> i wonder if i can integrate trac and pylint and eclipse
[10:32:21] <incorrect> i love this mylyn stuff
[10:34:48] <ron> sure, mylyn has a connector with trac.
[10:35:21] <paissad> eclipse uses lots of memory in OSX
[10:35:24] <paissad> really lot
[10:35:40] <incorrect> can't you control that in the .ini?
[10:45:25] <ron> paissad: eclipse uses the amount of memory you assigned to it. no matter which OS.
[10:45:30] <ron> paissad: it's the Java way.
[10:47:54] <ron> though the default eclipse uses is fairly low.
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[10:56:09] <bobsaccamano> hi..im unable to get syntax highlighting and code completion for an android project in eclipse
[10:56:19] <bobsaccamano> has anyone faced this problem?
[10:56:30] <bobsaccamano> its just like using notepad
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[11:01:28] <ron> eclipse probably doesn't recognize it as an android project.
[11:04:27] <bobsaccamano> ron: But I created an Android project
[11:04:46] <bobsaccamano> and if I hover over it, it shows the api details
[11:05:16] <bobsaccamano> I'm thinking of filing a bug, any idea where I do it - Eclipse or Android?
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[11:17:01] <ron> bobsaccamano: I doubt it's a bug. can you take a screenshot and post it? ~images
[11:17:06] <ron> ~image
[11:17:07] <Arbalest> Please upload your screenshots online and then paste the link back to the channel - http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add - http://www.freeimagehosting.net/ - http://imagebin.ca/upload.php - http://imageshack.us/
[11:17:08] <ron> bah.
[11:19:34] <bobsaccamano> ron: Sure..here it is http://imagebin.org/162412
[11:20:06] <ron> bobsaccamano: syntax highlighting seems to work fine...
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[11:20:35] <bobsaccamano> ron, arent the Android api calls supposed to be highlighted?
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[11:21:21] <ron> bobsaccamano: which android api calls for example? do you have it in the screenshot?
[11:21:41] <bobsaccamano> ron: setContentView, setText etc.
[11:22:10] <bobsaccamano> or even class instance declarations like TextView
[11:22:52] <ron> bobsaccamano: those are definitions that can be changed.
[11:23:12] <ron> bobsaccamano: for example, http://www.eclipsecolorthemes.org/
[11:23:19] <bobsaccamano> I mean, java keywords are highlighted even in ultra-edit, and I can write a automatic build script, what value does eclipse add here?
[11:23:40] <ron> try refactoring with ultra-edit ;)
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[11:25:21] <bobsaccamano> is there a plugin that integrates the android sdk with eclipse?
[11:25:34] <ron> I thought you used it. ADT.
[11:26:04] <bobsaccamano> I'm sounding really stupid here, but I still do not know what ADT does..
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[11:26:46] <ron> ADT - Android Development Tools. It's google's plugin for eclipse to make an Android IDE.
[11:27:36] <bobsaccamano> yes, but if it does not provide auto-complete and syntax highlighting (advanced, but necessary features), it kinda defeats the purpose doesnt it?
[11:28:49] <ron> it doesn't provide those since it uses eclipse' Java's auto complete and syntax highlighting. I'm not sure what else it provides, probably the ability to manage Android projects in their appropriate structure and allows you to easily modify Android related files.
[11:29:01] <ron> I don't develop for Android so I can't really go into specifics.
[11:29:45] <ron> I'm not sure why you say that the auto-complete doesn't work for you.
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[11:32:32] <Minkben> anyone know how to confgure the CDT plugin to actually work?
[11:33:39] <Minkben> I can't find any setting that let's me specify the filename for the make program or similar
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[11:34:02] <Minkben> I have mingw installed but I can't configure CDT to know that
[11:35:14] <bobsaccamano> ron: It suggests if I press ctrl+space. Is that the way its supposed to work?
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[11:38:04] <Arkezis> o.
[11:38:04] <Arkezis> o/
[11:38:10] <Arkezis> I've got a terrible issue with my eclipse
[11:38:23] <Arkezis> I was working and as I didn't have space on my disk, I've got some troubles...
[11:38:35] <Arkezis> I've restarted my eclipse and all my configurations/plugins... is out !
[11:38:42] <Arkezis> I've, like a fresh install :'(
[11:38:47] <Arkezis> (I'm on fedora 15)
[11:38:55] <Arkezis> can someone help me ? :)
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[11:43:48] <Arkezis> nobody ? :'(
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[11:44:46] <daniel-s> hi
[11:45:00] <daniel-s> is there a way to save all the console output to a text file
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[11:50:42] <bobsaccamano> hi..im trying to install the eclipse color themes plugin using the instructions on the site- If you are on Eclipse 3.6 (Helios), the easiest way to install the plugin is from the Eclipse Marketplace. Go to Help?Eclipse Marketplace..., then search for Eclipse Color Theme and install it.
[11:51:05] <bobsaccamano> however, there is no option "Eclipse Marketplace"
[11:52:58] <baedert> then just use the update site
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[12:07:43] <ron> bobsaccamano: yeah, that's the way it's supposed to work.
[12:08:21] <ron> Arkezis: uh, not sure what you mean.
[12:08:32] <bobsaccamano> ron: thanks
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[12:09:42] <Arkezis> ron, I've deleted everything, it's working now ;-)
[12:09:44] <ron> bobsaccamano: that depends on which eclipse version you have installed.
[12:09:53] <ron> bobsaccamano: and you can use the update site as suggested.
[12:10:13] <bobsaccamano> ron: I added the update site to the list but not sure what to do next
[12:13:01] <kesselhaus> select the site, wait til it found some then install...
[12:15:04] <bobsaccamano> kesselhaus: its found nothing
[12:16:12] <kesselhaus> which eclipse version do you have?
[12:17:05] <bobsaccamano> helios 3.6.2
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[12:22:59] <kesselhaus> well, i just go to install/update manager, then in the "Work with:" field paste the url from the update site, and hit enter .. then i wait til it found the site and then select the things to install
[12:27:32] <bobsaccamano> kesselhaus, ok that just worked
[12:27:40] <bobsaccamano> I was adding it to the list of software sites
[12:27:46] <bobsaccamano> and then checking for updates
[12:28:35] <bobsaccamano> man so many menus and options...eclipse is a real pain in the %$^
[12:28:45] <kesselhaus> well, make sure, a) the site is enabled, b) you select the right "Work With:" site(s)
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[12:28:50] <bobsaccamano> forgive me for saying so..
[12:29:10] <kesselhaus> well, but i personally dislike the eclipse-colortheme plugin ...
[12:29:57] <bobsaccamano> hmm...I just need it for syntax highlighting with android SDK (something I wrongly assumed comes inbuilt with the Android Dev Plugin - ADT)
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[12:30:22] <bobsaccamano> but I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to write scripts for integrating it anyway
[12:30:30] <nitind> I'm pretty sure that does syntax coloring if you're using it right.
[12:31:36] <kesselhaus> android sdk? is that java or C?
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[12:32:33] <nitind> It's not C.
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[12:35:14] <nitind> Arkezis: No.  You're going to have to rebuild it, probably.  And free up some disk space first.
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[12:42:53] * ron yawns
[12:47:59] <kesselhaus> hmm, i wonder when topcased 5.0 will come out finally ...
[12:55:08] * jink pours some hot coffee in ron's open mouth.
[12:56:38] * kesselhaus spends the milk and sugar ...
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[13:02:53] <RawChid> Hey, I can search text in all files with CTRL+H. Is it possible to skip binary files? I don't want to search through images for example
[13:03:36] <ron> I don't drink coffee.
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[13:12:54] <jink> ron: You do now! :D
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[13:19:32] <ron> RawChid: you can choose which file types to include in the search. Not sure you can choose which file types _not_ to search.
[13:21:33] <RawChid> Yeah I know...
[13:21:50] <RawChid> I tried something like ^*.jpg :P
[13:22:06] <RawChid> Just skip binary like grep -I would be great
[13:25:58] <ron> jink: you'd be surprised at how much that's unlikely.
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[14:27:39] <Rayne> how do i define the priority of a TODO message in Eclipse?
[14:28:05] <jink> ron: Sure.  Just messing around. :)  I don't intend to hunt you down and force coffee down your throat. :P
[14:35:31] <ron> Rayne: By not using TODO.
[14:36:24] <jink> Rayne: FIXME TODO XXX 's what I tend to use, in order of importance.
[14:37:20] <ron> hmpf. I need to install an AD browser again.
[14:38:34] <ron> and obviously I don't remember the name of the browser I had.
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[14:40:44] <ron> ah, found one.
[14:56:13] <ron> there's also the option to modify them manually.
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[15:00:15] <rethus> what have i to install in indigo eclipse to work and view c code in nice way?
[15:01:58] <Bundeskanzler> hi! I installed the eclipse sdk examples sources via the help -> install new software option and now i cant find the folder thats named in the "http://help.eclipse.org/indigo/index.jsp?topic=%2Forg.eclipse.platform.doc.isv%2Fsamples%2Forg.eclipse.swt.examples%2Fdoc-html%2Fswt_manual_setup.html" manual page under the headline "importing example source", point 5. its simply not in my plugins...
[15:02:00] <Bundeskanzler> ...directory"
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[15:03:23] <sr__> hi tehre
[15:03:25] <sr__> there
[15:04:02] <Bundeskanzler> theres a rar named that way, but it only contains 2 files, and no sourcecode at all, so Im guessing either the manual or the plugin is broken
[15:08:14] <Bundeskanzler> Does anybody here know where i can find the sources that should have been installed? The plugin is listet as installed package.
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[15:11:39] <Bundeskanzler> Or is there something like a support channel?
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[15:18:38] <Sky[x]> where can i setup where store my workspace ?
[15:20:28] <ron> rethus: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/ -> Eclipse IDE for C/C++ Developers (includes Incubating components)
[15:21:00] <ron> Sky[x]: you just create the workspace wherever you want.
[15:25:13] <Rayne> thanks ron and jink
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[15:28:47] <Bundeskanzler> ok, the sources are in the jar file, its only the archive import thing that cant find all the folders in the file
[15:30:04] <Bundeskanzler> there should be an update to the manual page stating that the user has to extract the jar, instead of telling him to look for a folder thats not there
[15:34:01] <ron> Hmpf, I want this day to end already.
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[15:38:02] <Bundeskanzler> the sources seem to be outdated as well, there are several imports that cant be resolved
[15:38:58] <Bundeskanzler> like org.eclipse.swt.events.*;
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[15:58:32] <rethus> is there a kind of echo code, to output the cvalue of variables in c while compiletime?
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[15:59:57] <ron> isn't that... a c question?
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[16:56:31] <jimmy695> hi there guys
[16:57:00] <jimmy695> is there someone here who might be able to help me with a "getting eclipse running smoothly" problem?
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[16:57:14] <ron> that depends
[16:57:41] <ron> will you be satisfied with an "equally vague response to the problem" solution?
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[16:58:26] <jimmy695> :)
[16:58:39] <jimmy695> some more details ...
[16:59:20] <jimmy695> eclipse (3.6 or 3.7 - same behaviour) downloads ok and starts up fine
[16:59:45] <ron> WOOT! \o/
[16:59:49] <jimmy695> i'm working on a mac, 10.6.8
[17:00:17] <ron> aaah, there's your problem.
[17:00:18] <lourense> Hi...I'm new to Eclipse and looking for a way to use it to connect to a PostgreSQL db and develop functions...any clues of where I can find info on this?
[17:00:48] <ron> lourense: you want to develop PostreSQL stored procedures in eclipse?
[17:00:58] <jimmy695> let's not bring religion into it
[17:00:59] <lourense> ron yes...
[17:01:15] <ron> jimmy695: ok ;)
[17:01:20] <ron> lourense: hmm.
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[17:02:08] <jimmy695> give lourense a hand, then i'll get to the nitty gritty
[17:03:50] <ron> jimmy695: go ahead, I'm trying to find a solution to his/her issue.
[17:04:39] <jimmy695> ok, thanks
[17:04:39] <lourense> ron: thank you from him
[17:05:32] <jimmy695> when i go to "Help->Install New Software" the process fails with a ClassNotFoundException: HttpClient
[17:06:04] <jimmy695> so, i'm a little bit ... "whoa"
[17:06:26] <jimmy695> the only mention of the exact same problem I've been able to find is here:
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[17:06:36] <jimmy695> http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/cross-project-issues-dev/msg05833.html
[17:07:02] <ron> lourense: I'm not entirely sure (as I've never done it myself), but check out http://www.eclipse.org/datatools/
[17:07:20] <lourense> ron: thank you...
[17:08:02] <ron> ~344977
[17:08:03] <Arbalest> Bug 344977 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=344977 - Equinox / p2 / 3.7 - PC / All - VERIFIED / FIXED / blocker / - Assignee: equinox.p2-inbox - Unable to update fresh M7 install
[17:08:58] <jimmy695> yeah, checked out 344977 which sounds like it's about an incorrect lock type set somewhere
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[17:09:51] <jimmy695> i can't even seem to get that far e.g. eclipse can't make a http connection to find out which releases are available
[17:09:57] <pulse00> hi all. does anyone know if there's a way for a plugin to hook into the  "Open" (F3) action in the "Navigate" menu ?
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[17:10:20] <pulse00> i'd like to link some domain specific elements in a texteditor with the "open" action, but i'm not sure if this is possible
[17:10:24] <ron> jimmy695: I was pasting that for me :p
[17:10:44] <ron> jimmy695: how did you get the eclipse installations?
[17:12:11] <ron> jimmy695: is that you? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6622769/cant-install-new-software-with-eclipse-on-mac-httpclient-class-not-found :p
[17:12:29] <jimmy695> grabbed eclipse-SDK-3.6.2-macosx-cocoa.tar.gz from the website
[17:12:41] <ron> www.eclipse.org/downloads ?
[17:13:52] <jimmy695> yup to stackoverflow, and the same to /downloads eclipse classique
[17:14:52] <ron> not that it should matter, but any reason you d/l the classic version?
[17:16:33] <jimmy695> hoping to play around with some android development, and that was just the version they suggested
[17:17:35] <ron> jimmy695: odd. I'd recommend getting the Jave IDE version rather than the classic one. but again, it shouldn't matter.
[17:18:11] <ron> I see in your post that you mentioned that you checked the permissions. are you entirely sure there's read access to all the files for the appropriate user?
[17:19:29] <ron> that's odd.
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[17:22:08] <jimmy695> yep, permissions are 644 for all those jars, and owned by the user i'm running as e.g. not root
[17:22:34] <jimmy695> a jar tvf on the file doesn't return any errors either
[17:23:14] <ron> which jvm do you have installed?
[17:24:21] <ron> that's it? one line?
[17:24:46] <jimmy695> sorry, plus Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 20.1-b02-384, mixed mode, sharing)
[17:25:00] <ron> Okay, so it's the Oracle JDK.
[17:25:22] <jimmy695> oh?!
[17:26:38] <ron> it's not a bad thing :)
[17:26:45] <jimmy695> phew
[17:27:10] <ron> did you change anything in your eclipse.ini?
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[17:27:44] <jimmy695> added some options to try to get more debug, but have since removed them
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[17:28:31] <jimmy695> ran eclipse from within truss just to see if that showed some file open failure
[17:29:16] <ron> no idea what truss is, sorry. can you see if you can open that file?
[17:29:27] <jimmy695> nothing going obviously wrong that i could see
[17:29:53] <jimmy695> truss - tracks system calls like file opens, reading and writing, etc
[17:30:18] <jimmy695> open which file? eclipse.ini?
[17:30:45] <ron> .:jimmy695:. ran eclipse from within truss just to see if that showed some file open failure <-- thought you can see which file is failing
[17:31:18] <jimmy695> oh, yeah sure
[17:31:52] <jimmy695> i guess i was looking to see if the jar containing httpclient had problems
[17:32:20] <ron> can you open that jar?
[17:32:31] <jimmy695> that would be eclipse/plugins/org.apache.commons.httpclient_3.1.0.v201005080502.jar
[17:33:22] <jimmy695> yup, jar xf-ed
[17:33:57] <ron> and can you find the culprit class in it?
[17:35:25] <jimmy695> yeah, it's definitely there
[17:35:39] <ron> try petting it :p
[17:36:57] <jimmy695> whosagoodclass? you are. yesyouare!
[17:37:02] <ron> heh
[17:37:11] <ron> other than the classic package, did you try any other one?
[17:37:11] <jimmy695> <sigh>
[17:37:41] <ron> and just to clarify, this *is* an odd problem and there definitely shouldn't be a problem there.
[17:37:48] <jimmy695> no, just two versions of the classique
[17:37:52] <ron> also, if you don't mind, please pastebin your current eclipse.ini
[17:38:06] <ron> okay, can you try d/l and extracting the Java Developers one?
[17:38:23] <jimmy695> no sweat, i'll get the d/l underway
[17:39:28] <ron> I almost got you to javap the class, but that really wouldn't make sense :)
[17:41:51] <jimmy695> config.ini is at http://pastebin.com/FJbxurj6
[17:41:59] <jimmy695> that's for the 3.6.2 install
[17:43:00] <ron> no... eclipse.ini not config.ini :)
[17:43:10] <jimmy695> not that crazy perhaps
[17:43:30] <jimmy695> javap fails mightyly with a NPE
[17:43:55] <ron> does it work on any other class? ;)
[17:43:59] <jimmy695> though same for a few other classes too
[17:44:05] * ron grins
[17:44:13] <ron> do you include the .class in the command?
[17:44:15] <jimmy695> ;)
[17:48:01] <ron> Your voice, like childhood, too strong and resistant.
[17:48:30] <jimmy695> here's what i ran from the directory where a few sample jars were extracted to:
[17:48:33] <jimmy695> javap -classpath . org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpClient
[17:48:37] <jimmy695> look right?
[17:49:25] <ron> how about 'javap HttpClient.class' from its directory? :p
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[17:51:43] <jimmy695> oh, the simple approach?
[17:51:51] <jimmy695> output is at http://pastebin.com/6x1tKqgu
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[17:52:12] * ron smiles
[17:52:33] <ron> hehe
[17:52:52] <ron> and I guess you get the same result running 'javap HttpClient' in its directory ;)
[17:53:38] <jimmy695> indeed
[17:54:40] <jimmy695> also the same for one of the eclipse classes that i know loads
[17:54:44] <ron> well, javap wouldn't have helped anyways :p
[17:55:04] <jimmy695> possibly a sign that my java installation is flakey?
[17:55:12] <ron> no, not at all.
[17:55:24] <ron> probably a sign of misuse of the command ;)
[17:55:57] <ron> how's the download going?
[17:55:58] <jimmy695> well, i'll be
[17:56:18] <jimmy695> just started eclipse for java devs, works like a charm
[17:56:49] <jimmy695> something about the classique release then!
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[17:57:34] <ron> could be. perhaps you should open a ~bug on the case.
[17:57:34] <Arbalest> Eclipse Bugzilla - Open new bugs and/or enhancement requests https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi / Search for existing bugs and/or enhancement requests https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/query.cgi
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[17:59:42] <jimmy695> i'll certainly be able to wrap up that stackoverflow question!
[17:59:55] <jimmy695> thanks for all your help and suggestions ron
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[18:04:10] <jimmy695> actually ron, why don't you close off that stackoverflow question
[18:04:33] <jimmy695> at least that way you'll get the kudos
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[18:15:39] <jimmy695> got to go. thanks again ron!
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[20:12:47] <miniBill> How do I read a jaif file in eclipse?
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[20:14:25] <Thrawn> Hi, i have trouble installing a plugin for Eclipse; i get the following error: Cannot complete the install because of a conflicting dependency. Im using Ubuntu and i installed eclipse with the synaptics package manager; im also being told that i got eclipse-jdt, eclipse-pde and eclipse-plugin-cvs installed/newest version
[20:15:26] <rcjsuen> what's the full warning message
[20:15:57] <Thrawn> http://pastebin.com/AahML5q4 <-
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[20:20:54] <Thrawn> agh
[20:21:29] <Thrawn> rcjsuen: i now tried to gksu eclipse; then add the galileo repos; and then install the plugin, and i get: Cannot complete the request.  See the error log for details.
[20:21:29] <Thrawn> "Eclipse Plug-in Development Environment" will be ignored because a newer version is already installed.
[20:23:27] <Thrawn> yet afaik its not installed.
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[20:36:28] <Thrawn> ok
[20:36:41] <Thrawn> java is to uber for me <.< but i found what i been searching for,
[20:36:43] <Thrawn> thanks..
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[20:36:48] <miniBill> :)
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[22:58:37] <nbf> what the fuck is a compatibility filter
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[22:59:38] <ron> it's a filter that's compatible.
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[23:01:08] <miniBill> lol
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[23:37:55] <nbf> god indigo is such a giant pile of shit
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[23:42:39] <solars> does anyone know what this error means: https://gist.github.com/1075002 and how to find out what to do?
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[23:56:31] <nbf> I think my favorite feature in indigo is how you have to force quit eclipse at random points in time
[23:56:35] <nbf> because it just stops responding to input
[23:56:36] <nbf> its awesome





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