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[00:00:29] <Dessimat0r> you need to switch to Navigator view to see the filesystem structure of your project
[00:00:37] <Dessimat0r> C/C++ Projects shows the logical view
[00:00:43] <Quantum_Ion> Dessimat0r, Thanks I know all about that
[00:00:44] <Dessimat0r> i.e., the CDT model
[00:00:49] <Dessimat0r> good :)
[00:01:04] <Quantum_Ion> There are some kinks and quirks in Eclipse when it comes to C/C++ programming
[00:01:25] <Dessimat0r> I just use Visual Studio 2010
[00:01:32] <Dessimat0r> tbh
[00:01:48] <nbf> CDT is pretty good anymore
[00:01:52] <Dessimat0r> aye :)
[00:01:53] <nbf> the only downside is that gdb sucks so bad
[00:02:02] <Quantum_Ion> Another bug is you have to save the C/C++ source code file in Eclipse before you can click build or Control-B to build a binary
[00:02:15] <Dessimat0r> could do with setting it up again
[00:02:20] <nbf> I never use the built in project management stuff
[00:02:23] <nbf> cmake ftw
[00:02:47] <Quantum_Ion> I use NetBeans and Eclipse on a Windows Visata and Ubuntu Linux
[00:02:59] <Quantum_Ion> 64 bit PC
[00:03:46] <nbf> cool
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[00:30:05] <adac> Hi guys, when i open eclipse there is no project anymore in my workspace? any ideas?
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[02:22:43] <EMHMark3> hi, this is a report from earlier: for some reason in one of my project the 'save actions' arn't being done on some of the files. specifically I want it to add 'final' to any local variables. It works fine in some source files, but not in others. How would I go about debugging this?
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[02:35:10] <aaairc> i'm trying to install the jQueryWTP plugin which is a .jar, but can't figure out how to do it. I tried doing Eclipse>Help>Install New Software... but when i point it to the website... http://code.google.com/a/eclipselabs.org/p/jquerywtp/downloads/list it says no software is available there... and when i download it to my local computer, and point it to the .jar file, it says "Could not find file: /Users/..../jQueryWTP1.20foEN.jar
[02:35:41] <aaairc> any recommendations?
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[02:57:01] <tokam> Hi guys, I have an ITextSelection and the active editor. How to get the path of the currently opened file of which the ITextSelection is as well?
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[03:31:44] <paulweb515_> tokam: if your IEditorInput is an IFileEditorInput you can ask it for an IFile, maybe?
[03:33:43] <tokam> what IEditorInput? I am iterating at the moment threw the IEditorReferences but I get the paths of all opened files.
[03:34:10] <tokam> http://pastebin.com/Qa52NTCM
[03:37:10] <tokam> returns null. PlatformUI.getWorkbench().getActiveWorkbenchWindow().
[03:37:10] <tokam> 					getActivePage().getActivePart().getSite().getAdapter(IFile.class)
[03:38:39] <tokam> think I got it now with your help paulweb515, but in which cases it is not an IFileEditorInput?
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[04:36:36] <aaairc> has anyone install the aptana studio plugin? every website i go to says to install additional aptana studio plugins just go to "Help >> Install Aptana Features". This of course doesn't exist within the help menu, and am at a loss for how to install specific code assist plugins for aptana
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[04:57:25] <kesselhaus> hmm, someone here using topcased uml2c-c2uml?
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[08:50:53] <timotei> I'm developing a plugin
[08:51:00] <timotei> and it seems I need to have some cycles
[08:51:04] <timotei> how can I fix that?
[08:51:23] <timotei> I have the core as a plugin, and another project as a "second" core
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[09:11:18] <csaba> is this the best place for asking SWT-related questions or is there another channel?
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[09:15:58] <timotei> csaba: I guess so
[09:20:28] <ron> csaba: it's a fairly good place to ask these sort of questions, but the relevant people may not be online right now.
[09:20:35] <ron> you can also try in ##java
[09:21:30] <csaba> ok just asking cause I saw there's no #swt
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[09:25:39] <csaba> so I'm developing a swt application in Eclipse... I work on a 32bit computer and on a 64bit. When I work on the 32bit, then I must use the 32bit SWT jar, and similarly for the 64bit computer
[09:25:52] <csaba> Is there a way to set the Project settings so that it choses the proper JAR file?
[09:26:06] <csaba> so I wouldn't have to do it manually every time I move to another computer
[09:26:14] <csaba> ...I'm using windows
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[09:42:03] <tjhowse> !ping
[09:42:15] <tjhowse> not sure if this is a channel for here, or for cygwin, but I'll ask anyhoo
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[09:42:53] <tjhowse> I'm having problems compiling a project in eclipse, it's something really basic
[09:43:10] <tjhowse> I create a hello world program, and run gcc -v Hello_World.cpp -o Hello_World.o
[09:43:14] <tjhowse> and it creates no output file
[09:43:16] <tjhowse> http://pastebin.com/Up7xDLAu
[09:44:06] <tjhowse> running windows 7
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[09:58:50] <ronr__> tjhowse: CDT related questions are best served in the ~forums - unfortunately, there aren't many CDT users in the channel.
[09:58:50] <Arbalest> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/
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[10:01:06] <deSilva> gcc -v?
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[10:02:27] <deSilva> g++ Hello_World.cpp -o hello.exe
[10:03:01] <deSilva> tjhowse: try that instead
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[10:08:58] <tjhowse> deSilva: no dice
[10:09:07] <tjhowse> going AFK for a while
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[10:42:46] <s0undt3ch> hello ppl
[10:43:10] <s0undt3ch> what's the setting to get eclipse to ask me to update an editor's contents if that file changed on the filesystem?
[10:43:59] <tmkd> eclipse always asks for that
[10:44:56] <FauxFaux> s0undt3ch: Preferences -> workspace -> refresh automatically and similar settings may be what you're looking for?
[10:49:42] <s0undt3ch> tmkd: I'm using aptana 3 and it aparently stopped asking me
[10:50:16] <s0undt3ch> FauxFaux: hmm, refresh automaticaly is not set :\
[10:51:18] <ron> then set it ;)
[10:51:32] <s0undt3ch> I don't wish for it to refresh
[10:51:40] <s0undt3ch> but it's refreshing :)
[10:51:52] <ron> you *don't* want it to refresh?
[10:51:53] <ron> that's odd.
[10:52:00] <s0undt3ch> yeah, I like to be asked
[10:52:13] <FauxFaux> You know about local history, right?
[10:52:28] <s0undt3ch> hmm, maybe? :
[10:52:56] <s0undt3ch> FauxFaux: local file history?
[10:52:59] <FauxFaux> Right click a file -> compare with -> local history; you can always get back to old versions of files even if they get reloaded.  It's like using version control properly for people who don't or who use terrible version control systems.
[10:53:11] <ron> why would you not want it to refresh? o_O
[10:53:37] <FauxFaux> 'cos you don't want something to overwrite your files/
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[10:54:11] <ron> I bet.
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[10:54:31] <FauxFaux> alias r='git commit && mvn exec:java' etc.
[10:54:42] <ron> damn, I'm hungry.
[10:54:58] <ron> FauxFaux: well, serves you right for using a posix system.
[10:55:02] <s0undt3ch> FauxFaux: thanks for the local history tip, I had seen that before but had never used it
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[10:56:05] <ron> FauxFaux: OT, any experience with either Spring Security or Apache Shiro?
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[10:56:34] <FauxFaux> We use spring security here, it's all full of Wonderful Magic.
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[10:56:53] <ron> yeah, I know you love Spring's Magic. :)
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[10:58:12] <ron> I consider using Apache Shiro instead.
[10:58:16] <ron> don't know enough about either.
[10:58:32] <ron> lunch!
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[11:09:28] <sr__> hi there
[11:14:25] <csaba> I'm developing a swt application in Eclipse... I work on a 32bit OS and also on a 64bit. When I work on the 32bit, then I must use the 32bit SWT jar, and similarly for the 64bit computer
[11:14:28] <csaba> Is there a way to set the Project settings so that it choses the proper JAR file?
[11:14:32] <csaba> so I wouldn't have to do it manually every time I move to another computer
[11:14:36] <csaba> ...I'm using windows
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[11:22:41] <sr__> hmm I have a weird behavior on a windows install
[11:22:59] <sr__> I tried to install Eclipse CDT through "install new software" etc...
[11:23:19] <sr__> I did the same process under a linux and mac machine and it worked perfectly
[11:23:37] <sr__> but on the windows machine I don't get the "C++ project creation wizards"
[11:23:44] <sr__> in the "New.." wizard
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[11:24:05] <sr__> cool
[11:24:20] <sr__> that's nice
[11:24:43] <sr__> anyway...
[11:25:03] <sr__> I dropped the ~/.eclipse and workspace folders to get a fresh restart
[11:25:36] <sr__> still no sign of any CDT-ness in project creation wizard...
[11:27:16] <sr__> the actual question is: are there any eclipse log files that I should look into for hints about why the CDT is just ignored? despite being properly installed trhough p2?
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[11:58:07] <theresajayne> i am having serious problems with eclipse and maven,
[11:59:04] <theresajayne> i create a new project and it has loads of errors and doesnt work properly
[11:59:34] <theresajayne> until i manually edot the pom
[11:59:45] <theresajayne> and then it becomes dependancy hell
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[12:18:30] <sr__> for the amators of shitty questions, here is the shitty answer to my issue: plugins needs to be installed with Administrator rights
[12:18:47] <csaba> how to set a Shell window to be non-resizable?
[12:18:59] <sr__> totally makes sense, but no warning at all and a silent ignore from Eclipse when not as Admin is puzzling
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[12:21:11] <nitind> You were running Eclipse ad Administrator?
[12:21:13] <nitind> s/ad/as
[12:22:14] <paulweb515_> sr__: http://help.eclipse.org/indigo/index.jsp?topic=%2Forg.eclipse.platform.doc.isv%2Freference%2Fmisc%2Fmulti_user_installs.html
[12:23:04] <paulweb515_> sr__: if you install it as the Admin and don't set it to a multi-user install, then you'd only be able to install other plugins as Admin
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[12:28:32] <xp_prg> hi all, I downloaded eclipse pdt helios, and now I want the uml tools, can I do help->install new software to get it into eclipse pdt helios or not?
[12:28:49] <sr__> paulweb515, that makes perfect sense
[12:29:27] <sr__> nitind, no as a normal user, trying to install a plugin
[12:29:57] <sr__> I am perplexed at the lack of warning though
[12:30:40] <xp_prg> am I invisible?
[12:31:06] <sr__> I sense a presence
[12:31:09] <sr__> ;)
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[12:33:59] <xp_prg> sr__> sense my question and then sense its answer
[12:35:10] <sr__> xp_prg, my answer is yes I presume
[12:36:06] <sr__> never used UML tools but usually you can install everything with p2
[12:36:28] <sr__> I mean "help->install new software"
[12:37:24] <xp_prg> I don't see UML tools with source: Helios - http://download.eclipse.org/releases/helios
[12:37:32] <xp_prg> do you know where it might be?
[12:37:41] <sr__> go into the Available Sites
[12:37:46] <sr__> and enable the proper source
[12:38:09] <sr__> or add the source manually if it is not there
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[12:57:19] <paulweb515> xp_prg: if you can't find the plugins you want in helios, try ~plugins
[12:57:19] <Arbalest> Look for plug-ins in the new Eclipse Marketplace (http://marketplace.eclipse.org/), at the Eclipse Plug-in Central (http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/) and EclipsePlugins (http://eclipse-plugins.info)
[12:58:48] <xp_prg> hi, I apolagize, I need this for a class tomorrow, and I only have like 10 more mintues before I go where there is no internet, how can I install the clipse uml tools using help->install new software, I don't see it :(
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[13:01:30] <Kasreyn> so how can you define a launch group as the default launcher on F11 ?
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[13:04:48] <paulweb515> Kasreyn: right now you have 2 choices ... context launch (default) or "launch last launch" which you can select from the preferences
[13:05:28] <Kasreyn> thing is, clicking the debug icon is wearing out my finger
[13:05:55] <Kasreyn> i mean clicking it to drop down the menu seems a little redundant
[13:06:14] <Kasreyn> so how can i change the context launch?
[13:06:29] <paulweb515> Kasreyn: use Preferences>Run/Debug>launches
[13:06:41] <paulweb515> Kasreyn: then you can set it to "run my last launch"
[13:06:49] <csaba> I created a menu and its accelerator key is F1... but why isn't "F1" printed next to the menu item? Is this some SWT bug?
[13:06:53] <csaba> helpContentsMenu.setAccelerator(SWT.F1);
[13:07:22] <paulweb515> csaba: AFAIK you can't use F1 for anything, it's tied to SWT.Help, not SWT.KeyDown
[13:07:42] <csaba> but I'd like F1 to be printed next to my menu item
[13:08:29] <csaba> I'm making a stand-alone swt application, not an Eclipse plugin, so I don't think F1 is reserved for anything
[13:08:32] <paulweb515> csaba: is your menu item "Context sensitive Help"?  'cause that's what F1 will do
[13:08:44] <xp_prg> does anyone use the UML graphical design tools in eclipse?
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[13:09:00] <paulweb515> csaba: F1 fires an SWT.Help event ... not an SWT.KeyDown or SWT.Selection ...
[13:09:32] <csaba> paulweb515: that's not the point, I don't care which event it fires, I want to print "F1" next to "Help" in my menu item
[13:09:53] <csaba> to generalize, i'd also like to print Ctrl+Alt+F11 next to some other menu item
[13:10:05] <csaba> the graphical representation of the shortcut is what's bugging me
[13:10:38] <paulweb515> csaba: don't set the accelerator, then.  Use menuItem.setText(title + "\tF1")
[13:10:43] <csaba> and also that I set the menu's text to &File and F is not underlined
[13:10:57] <csaba> how to make F underlined?
[13:11:01] <paulweb515> csaba: on windows?
[13:11:03] <csaba> yes
[13:11:12] <paulweb515> csaba: hit and hold ALT
[13:11:28] <paulweb515> csaba: by default on windows it *won't* show the mnemonics
[13:11:29] <csaba> whoa
[13:11:40] <paulweb515> I don't know why, but it's the honest truth
[13:11:47] <csaba> but...
[13:11:49] <Kasreyn> paulweb515: i set the last launch option. works now. thanks :)
[13:12:35] <csaba> in eclipse, the menus are underlined always... although in other applications like Internet Explorer they're not underlined...
[13:12:41] <csaba> must be a win7 feature...
[13:13:39] <csaba> so anyway, back to the original question... how to set a menu item's shortcut to Ctrl+Alt+F11 and have it also print out next to the menu item...
[13:13:45] <paulweb515> csaba: win7 makes even more changes to the standard UI metaphors ... I haven't used it so I don't know if they're good or bad
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[13:13:58] <csaba> title + "\tkey" is not good because on Arabic keyboards it's "key\t" + title
[13:14:00] <paulweb515> csaba: did you set the accelerator?
[13:14:05] <csaba> helpContentsMenu.setAccelerator(SWT.F1);
[13:14:35] <csaba> aboutMenu.setAccelerator(SWT.CTRL + SWT.ALT + SWT.F1);
[13:14:38] <paulweb515> csaba: yes, you have to translate your text so if you want accelerators to show up crrectly
[13:14:57] <paulweb515> csaba: that should work, or SWT.CTRL|SWT.ALT|SWT.F1
[13:15:44] <theresajayne> why does the appfuse archetypes not work properly under eclipse
[13:15:50] <csaba> well, it doesn't: http://i.imgur.com/bsKAo.jpg
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[13:17:01] <paulweb515> csaba: does it work if you change that to SWT.F5  or 'T' ?
[13:17:28] <csaba> no, neither case
[13:17:40] <csaba> aboutMenu = new MenuItem(helpMenu, SWT.NONE);   should I set it to something else?
[13:18:31] <csaba> this is swt 3.7 (the latest)
[13:18:53] <csaba> it even seems to have support for touchscreens
[13:19:04] <csaba> but not for shortcuts it seems he he
[13:19:19] <paulweb515> csaba: it should be SWT.PUSH instead of SWT.NONE ... does that make a difference?
[13:19:31] <csaba> no, tried that too a sec ago
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[13:19:54] <csaba> I guess it's not so important...
[13:19:59] <paulweb515> csaba: http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/viewvc.cgi/org.eclipse.swt.snippets/src/org/eclipse/swt/snippets/Snippet29.java?view=co
[13:20:24] <paulweb515> csaba: that implies you have to display the accelerator yourself
[13:21:35] <csaba> will it also work for arabic?
[13:22:05] <csaba> it does work for english...
[13:22:31] <paulweb515> csaba: eclipse always does the shortcut processing separately ... lemme see if I can find the code
[13:23:35] <paulweb515> mi.setText(text + '\t' + acceleratorText);
[13:23:36] <csaba> hmm anyway the menu item in arabic is displayed as a sequence of rectangles... maybe I need to set the menu item's locale or font too
[13:23:52] <paulweb515> csaba: we don't differentiate between languages
[13:24:25] <csaba> I would guess that swt just uses windows' built-in menu system
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[13:24:32] <paulweb515> csaba: I'm not sure if switching to RTL swaps them around, it might
[13:25:11] <csaba> is there an option for that?
[13:25:34] <csaba> I didn't find any setOrientation() anywhere...
[13:25:36] <paulweb515> csaba: if you start up with either -nl iw or -nl eg it should be in the correct mode
[13:25:56] <paulweb515> csaba: setOrientation is set on the Shell as they're created and impacts everything below
[13:26:51] <csaba> awesome!
[13:26:57] <csaba> paulweb515: that fixed everything :)
[13:27:03] <csaba> the shortcut is positioned good
[13:27:11] <paulweb515> csaba: starting with -nl something?
[13:27:41] <paulweb515> csaba: there is a -dir RTL option as well ... or you mean simply setting the orientation on the shell
[13:27:44] <csaba> huh? I didn't understand that... I did this: shell.setOrientation(SWT.RIGHT_TO_LEFT); and left the menu item as it was
[13:27:54] <paulweb515> csaba: right, that's it
[13:28:06] <csaba> cool, that's good enough for me
[13:28:25] <csaba> thanks for the help :)
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[13:54:22] <tktiddle> Hi my eclipse pydev is being really uncooperative, ive tried adding a library to the pythonpath under preferences>pydev>intrepreters but i can import my libraries. I can import fine from the python interactive prompt, I don't know whats going on.  Can anyone help me figure it out?
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[14:03:45] <lemmy> who contributes "run as" and "debug as". Doesn't appear to be jdt.launching nor pde.launching.
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[14:10:31] <lemmy> nm
[14:11:11] <paulweb515> lemmy: found it in platform debug ?
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[14:15:54] <lemmy> paulweb515: yes, but now I need to figure out how I can easily add it to an RCP app.
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[14:45:02] <Toidi> How can I pass my form class instance from one form to another so I can run some side functions to update some details on it from the popup form I have displaying
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[14:57:00] <csaba> I want to create an MDI application so I followed the example at http://java-gui.info/Apress-The.Definitive.Guide.to.SWT.and.JFace/8886final/LiB0070.html#ch08fig02
[14:57:03] <csaba> that works fine
[14:57:23] <csaba> the problem is, when I display a MessageBox asking the user something, then I can never click the Yes or No buttons in the message box
[14:57:38] <csaba> I have to first close the MDI windows, and only then will the message box become focusable
[14:57:46] <csaba> any idea how to fix this?
[14:59:40] <rcjsuen> lol new Decorations
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[15:01:21] <csaba> what's wrong with that?
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[15:03:34] <rcjsuen> perhaps you should check the apis
[15:06:10] <EMHMark3> csaba: I've never made mdi apps, but I would guess you have to use the mdi top window as parent for your messagebox
[15:06:47] <csaba> EMHMark3: I'm doing that... the Shell is the top window and it's the parent of the decoration
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[15:10:52] <EMHMark3> ah. set SWT.APPLICATION_MODAL on the msgbox maybe?
[15:11:34] <csaba> I did that... ok I fugred out something new... when I press the x button of the window, then the dialog freezes... when I use my own menu to close the window, then it doesn't freeze
[15:11:58] <csaba> when the user presses the x button, then I catch the event, and set event.doit = false, and then call my own function which asks the user if he wants to quit
[15:12:09] <csaba> when I press the menu, then it also calls this function
[15:12:26] <csaba> so maybe when the user presses x, then something happens in between that makes the message dialog freeze
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[15:16:55] <csaba> here's a test case to reproduce the error: http://pastebin.com/UNjrzhC2
[15:17:19] <csaba> if I just remove that part under the "// The SWT.BORDER style" comment, then the message dialog won't freeze anymore
[15:18:10] <csaba> also, if I invoke the message dialog in any case other than when closing the window, then it also works
[15:21:22] <EMHMark3> my guess is that .open() blocks and the SWT thread can't keep on running (and thus can't process events in the dialog)
[15:22:26] <csaba> yeah it was probably just that
[15:22:27] <EMHMark3> ya, if you open the dialog from display.asyncExec() then the dialog doesn't freeze
[15:22:31] <csaba> display.asyncExec() fixed the problem
[15:23:04] <csaba> heh we did it at the same time :)
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[15:28:44] <EMHMark3> This is a report from earlier: for some reason in one of my project the 'save actions' arn't being done on some of the files. specifically I want it to add 'final' to any local variables. It works fine in some source files, but not in others. Anyone knows how I would go about debugging this?
[15:29:40] <rcjsuen> csaba: Just remember making new Decoration instances is not supported.
[15:31:01] <csaba> rcjsuen: in this application i'm only dealing with singletons so no worries
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[15:31:31] <csaba> EMHMark3: I didn't understand you at all
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[15:37:49] <tktiddle> Hi can anyone help me with this please? https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/GHTOzj7fJ8fozcFGth6kX-eltWU75_oA5THjZ0ntCl4?feat=directlink
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[15:41:48] <csaba> #python ?
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[15:43:43] <elfranne> anyone got an idea why i get Save Failed Null charset name on eclipse 3.7 classic ?
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[15:50:09] <regedit> is eclipse designed to be altogether *standalone*, as in i can move my eclipse directory from any directory to any other, onto a usb stick, different hard drive, different computer, and it will all function ok when running eclipse.exe ?\
[15:50:49] <acron17_> hi there! in my plugin the (core expression) "selection" is empty and eclipse throws an exception
[15:51:42] <acron17_> eclipse throws: org.eclipse.core.runtime.CoreException: The variable selection is not defined. any ideas on that?
[15:52:12] <acron17_> i use the selection like described here: http://help.eclipse.org/helios/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/guide/workbench_cmd_expressions.htm
[15:54:53] * regedit proceeds to idle, like everyone else
[15:57:20] <paulweb515> acron17_: what's supposed to be providing "selection" in your app?
[15:57:50] <paulweb515> acron17_: all of the  default variables either provide a value or org.eclipse.core.expressions.IEvaluationContext.UNDEFINED_VARIABLE
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[15:59:35] <acron17_> the "Projekt Explorer" and my view which contains a TreeViewer which set as a selection provider through getSite().setSelectionProvider(); should provide the selection
[15:59:53] <regedit> paulweb515: ^ any idea about eclipse meant to be "portable" ?
[16:04:44] <regedit> (connection test)
[16:06:20] <acron17_> if think this part of the plugin.xml cases or at least triggers the problem: http://pastebin.com/mgSgiRcx
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[16:14:56] <acron17_> hmm, anyone?
[16:17:13] <acron17_> i just added a ISelectionListener as a test to the SelectionService of the workbenchwindow and it fires with the correct values as i expected it to do
[16:17:41] <acron17_> still the selection variable is undefined :-(
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[16:23:47] <acron17_> ok, think i found a solution: simply not using with and iterate but only instanceof fixes the problem for me. seems like propertypages cannot be used the way i tried
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[16:27:05] <paulweb515> regedit: your eclipse directory?  You mean the install, or a workspace?
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[16:27:30] <paulweb515> acron17_: oh, correct, property pages don't expose the whole set of variables from ISourceProviders
[16:27:45] <paulweb515> acron17_: AFAIK it only exposes a default variable that contains the current object
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[16:28:42] <regedit> paulweb515: the install
[16:30:20] <paulweb515> regedit: If you always have it a E:\eclipse36 I don't see why it wouldn't work
[16:30:36] <paulweb515> regedit: the workspace is supposed to be local to that file system, so it cares much, much more
[16:34:57] <regedit> paulweb515: what about the secure store
[16:35:13] <rcjsuen> secure storage defaults to ~ I believe
[16:35:58] <regedit> can that be changed to be as "portable" as eclipse itself? how/where?
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[16:37:07] <rcjsuen> yes the keyring path can be changed, refer to the docs
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[16:38:00] <Alvo> hi, i have the eclipse starter in my Windows 7 starter bar, but there is another icon created for eclipse when i start it, how can i make eclipse not doing that?
[16:39:05] <regedit> rcjsuen: thanks for the useful keywords. so i must run eclipse from command line and pass -keyring keyringFilePath every time i run eclipse? (using windows)
[16:40:32] <regedit> Alvo: how did eclipse get into your windows starter bar? did you drag it there?
[16:40:42] <Alvo> <regedit yes
[16:40:45] <paulweb515> regedit: if you want something other than the default, yes (or update the eclipse.ini file which passes parameters to the launcher)
[16:41:03] <regedit> paulweb515: ah excellent, thanks man!
[16:41:20] <Alvo> <regedit i thiunk its because eclipse is starting another process instance
[16:41:37] <regedit> Alvo: try right clicking on it and mess around with the shortcut properties, you can probably set icon from there
[16:42:03] <paulweb515> regedit: in eclipse.ini it's one word per line, so you need to break up parameters that have 2 parts
[16:44:08] <regedit> paulweb515: oh really, ok.
[16:44:53] <regedit> Alvo: see what the shotcut command is, see if indeed it's running a separate new process (shouldn't..)
[16:46:36] <regedit> paulweb515: the docs say the path is relative to "the directory that Eclipse was started from." so stuff like ../../foo/bar will work? does it need to be forward slashes or backward slashes?
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[16:53:35] <Alvo> regedit maybe win7 detaches the icon because the eclipse launcher changes its icon during startup
[16:55:55] <paulweb515> regedit: to be honest, I'm not sure ... by default Java file handling is consistent when you use /
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[16:57:19] <regedit> Alvo: shouldn't do that, my eclipse lanucher doesn't change icon during startup
[16:58:21] <regedit> Alvo: try "unpinning" the shortcut from your windows bar and re-pinning it again
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[16:59:20] <Alvo> regedit first its like this http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS9dPYCLk8jsihy4Nkoo8NNpFOahLofM-eY0HAFVlJvHjYO8bSIu5CKWTY   then like this   http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTlwN7D9Pjr6NN7qqRNnm453MMiWPvGJnAcBDBXoML9zsOxUdCn2BQNr4U
[17:00:18] <regedit> Alvo: oh i see
[17:00:55] <regedit> Alvo: i think that's normal
[17:01:09] <Toidi> Is it possible to skip an inf loop while trying to debug an app?
[17:03:00] <rcjsuen> Toidi: How would you skip something that's infinitely looping
[17:03:07] <rcjsuen> unless you intend to move the instruction pointer directly
[17:03:22] <rcjsuen> which in that case you can't do in Java (assuming you mean Java)
[17:03:27] <Alvo> regedit i think thats the problem
[17:03:38] <nitind> Toidi: No, you have to fix the loop.
[17:03:46] <Alvo> win7 sees the icon changed and detaches, somehow i need to prevent it
[17:04:27] <Toidi> nitind, SWT automatically has an inf loop for the windows. If I remove the loop it will stop responding to the clicks/typing/etc right?
[17:05:11] <rcjsuen> Toidi: the UI would cease to update itself
[17:05:26] <Toidi> That's what I thought
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[17:08:17] <herlimenezes> Hello, good morning.
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[17:08:57] <paulweb515> ~hi
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[17:16:27] <jubberrue> Hi, basic question for RCP people. Say you are working on 2 unrelated RCP projects, each project having multiple bundles, what is the best way to switch between the projects in the Eclipse IDE? Use working sets? Thanks
[17:16:46] <rcjsuen> I just use multiple workspaces, if I were you
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[17:17:17] <briandealwis> jubberrue: I use rcjsuen's approach; others like to use Mylyn with task switching
[17:17:39] <rcjsuen> working sets is good for simple grouping but in this case...
[17:17:43] <rcjsuen> cuz there's only one target platform for your ws
[17:17:48] <rcjsuen> i wouldn't try to merge them in one ws
[17:18:00] <rcjsuen> i mean sure they might be the same target platform but still, better safe than sorry
[17:18:37] <briandealwis> good point: re: target platforms
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[17:19:53] <jink> Don't you love it, when Find/Replace "SELECTED LINES" does "ALL LINES" instead...? :(
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[17:22:37] <jubberrue> Thanks for the advice on working sets..
[17:23:16] <jink> Working sets kick ass. :)
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[17:30:18] <jink> I just need a way to quickly change working sets. :)
[17:30:45] <jink> ctrl-shift-t and ctrl-shift-r don't use the same working set, for example. -__-
[17:31:00] <rcjsuen> should open a bug
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[17:32:44] <jink> rcjsuen: Maybe it's intended behaviour.  ("I want this set of classes, and that set of resources.")
[17:32:52] <rcjsuen> i suppose
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[18:04:29] <regedit> derp-a-derp-a-derpadoo
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[18:16:07] <herlimenezes> Plz, how can I insert a war file into the tomcat6 server copy created by eclipse web project?
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[18:18:53] <herlimenezes> In my  case it is Joseki (an HTTP engine that supports SPARQL protocol and SPARQL RDF query language).
[18:21:14] <regedit> herlimenezes: install it from the tomcat manager page?
[18:21:58] <regedit> oh
[18:22:11] <regedit> herlimenezes: eclipse has some built in functions to install a war onto tomcat i believe
[18:22:34] <regedit> try right clicking on the tomcat server, does it have a "install application" option?
[18:22:41] <herlimenezes> regedit: ok, this can be done. But as you develop a web project using J2EE, Eclipse creates a copy of tomcat server at .metadata file at workspace. It is just copy the war file at this folder?
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[18:23:11] <bLiNdRaGe> anyone know a support channel for RHINO ?
[18:23:25] <regedit> herlimenezes: inside eclipse try right clicking on the tomcat server, does it have a "install application" option?
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[18:24:06] <regedit> (or something similarly named)
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[18:25:17] <herlimenezes> At server settings?
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[18:26:51] <regedit> herlimenezes: im not sure, look around. i seem to remember eclipse having some sort of "install application" functionality for eclipse's tomcat
[18:28:25] <herlimenezes> regedit: Yes, I know, but i need to install a rdfservlet at tomcat in order to process sparql queries. I think to do it at the "local copy" and not at Tomcat6 instalation.
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[18:31:29] <herlimenezes> well I think it accepted...
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[19:31:30] <marko> trying to install some additional software I get: "The profile is currently in use." How do I fix this?
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[19:40:14] <paulweb515> marko: how are you trying to install the software?  Help>Install New Software?
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[19:41:09] <marko> paulweb515: yes
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[19:43:03] <marko> I found a IRC log saying I should erase p2/org.eclipse.equinox.*/cache. I did that, but it didn't fix the issue, just prolonged the time it took for the error to appear.
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[19:43:37] <marko> actually p2/org.eclipse.equinox.p2.*/cache
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[19:49:49] <nishttal2> Hi I am running Eclipse on Ubuntu 64 bit and it keeps crashing on me whenever i use the C++ profile
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[19:50:09] <nishttal2> this is the error log... http://fpaste.org/inGG/
[19:50:20] <nishttal2> does any one know what this is
[19:50:27] <nishttal2> its not letting me type more than a word
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[19:51:16] <rcjsuen> VM bug
[19:51:24] <ron> you're on ubuntu and you use fedora paste? :)
[19:51:28] <rcjsuen> probably been filed 10-20 times alrdy
[19:51:29] <nishttal2> rcjsuen, haha
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[19:52:06] <nishttal2> rcjsuen, i tried google it.. what should i search for ?
[19:52:31] <ron> "sun jre ubuntu hell" :)
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[19:55:43] <ron> nishttal2: I suppose you know how to solve the problem...
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[19:56:06] <nishttal2> ron not really.. i think its a eclipse.ini change
[19:56:41] <heinz> just stick to Java and be done ;-}
[19:56:55] <nishttal2> heinz, ?
[19:57:06] <ron> nishttal2: you have two main options. either install openjdk and run with that, or try reverting to an older version of the sun jdk and hope for the best.
[19:57:32] <nishttal2> ron, the thing is I had eclipse helios working on the same machine
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[19:57:45] <ron> nishttal2: that's quite exciting to hear.
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[19:57:55] <nishttal2> ron,  i had to make some change to helios to make it work (dont remember what)
[19:58:25] <ron> do you still have it?
[19:58:28] <nishttal2> ron, indigo is having the same issue and dont know what to do
[19:58:30] <nishttal2> ron, yes
[19:58:38] <ron> then compare their ini's :)
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[19:58:54] <ron> maybe you already have openjdk installed and directed helios to use it.
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[19:59:14] <nishttal2> ron where is that setting?
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[19:59:36] <ron> iirc, should be the first two lines in the .ini
[19:59:39] <ron> ~eclipse.ini
[19:59:39] <Arbalest> Want to set startup flags for eclipse, like -vm, -vmargs, or -consolelog? Edit your eclipse.ini file. - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse.ini - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_How_do_I_run_Eclipse%3F#eclipse.ini
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[20:01:26] <nishttal2> ron http://pastebin.com/ZTkHxCL3 has both .ini files (helios and indigo)
[20:01:42] <nishttal2> the only difference i see is UseCompressedOops
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[20:03:34] <ron> you running both using the same user?
[20:03:40] <nishttal2> yeah
[20:03:57] <ron> do you have an additional start up script you run before you run helios?
[20:04:01] <nishttal2> no
[20:04:15] <ron> do you have unity installed?
[20:04:19] <nishttal2> no
[20:04:23] <ron> good ;)
[20:04:31] <ron> unity is crap on ice :)
[20:04:32] <nishttal2> yeah i tried it and hated it
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[20:04:55] <nishttal2> gnome 3 is what i want to try but not available on ubuntu 10.10 yet
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[20:05:53] <rindolf> Hi all. After I've followed http://dev.clojure.org/display/doc/Getting+Started+with+Eclipse+and+Counterclockwise with the latest Eclipse build on Mageia Linux Cauldron the *.clj file does not appear under src. Can anyone help?
[20:06:09] <nishttal2> ron so anything on my issue?
[20:06:23] <ron> rindolf: so many errors in one sentence.
[20:06:46] <rindolf> ron: what?
[20:06:53] <ron> nishttal2: what's the output of 'java -version'?
[20:07:06] <ron> rindolf: closure.. mageia linux.. :)
[20:07:07] <ron> j/k
[20:07:12] <rindolf> ron: :-P
[20:07:20] <rindolf> ron: it's "closure" - not "clojure".
[20:07:26] <rindolf> ron: it's "clojure" - not "closure".
[20:07:44] <nishttal2> java version "1.6.0_24", Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07), Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 19.1-b02, mixed mode)
[20:07:49] <ron> rindolf: yeah, yeah, potato, potahto. :)
[20:08:22] <ron> nishttal2: well, I'd still try the openjdk path.
[20:10:38] <asdf_> hi, i'm trying the new Eclispe Jubula (Testing Tool). I read i could drag and drop test specification from test libraries provided...  but my Test Case Browser is empty! What can i do?
[20:10:44] <asdf_>  how it does look like: http://i53.tinypic.com/3462346.jpg
[20:10:51] <asdf_> how it probably should look like: http://i53.tinypic.com/mc3rkn.jpg
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[20:11:02] <ron> rindolf: are you sure you followed the tutorial properly?
[20:11:19] <rindolf> ron: yes, I do.
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[20:11:41] <ron> you created the .clj file under src but it's not there?
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[20:12:09] <ron> asdf_: I think your best bet would be to ask that in the ~forums
[20:12:09] <Arbalest> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/
[20:13:19] <ron> nishttal2: you actually have it installed already as it is the default on ubuntu.
[20:13:43] <nishttal2> ron.. curios why helios would work and indigo wont
[20:14:07] <ron> nishttal2: well, it's a new version of CDT as well, which could trigger the bug. simple as that.
[20:14:12] <nishttal2> ron, i am now trying with the compressedOOPs setting
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[20:14:33] <ron> I somehow doubt that's the solution, but it's a good idea to try.
[20:15:09] <nishttal2> ron, i seem to recall that last time all i had to do was make a small change in some file (And i am assuming it was eclipse.ini)
[20:15:40] <ron> nishttal2: well, won't hurt to try, but since that's the only different, if it doesn't work....
[20:16:38] <ron> nishttal2: and since it happens to you in the CDT editor, it sounds very likely that the change there triggers the bug.
[20:18:32] <ron> rindolf: do you see the file on the disk (that is, not within eclipse)?
[20:18:40] <rindolf> ron: let me see.
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[20:19:02] <rindolf> ron: yes, I do.
[20:19:08] <rindolf> ron: it's there.
[20:19:10] <ron> rindolf: under src?
[20:19:17] <rindolf> ron: yes, under src.
[20:19:34] <ron> rindolf: try refreshing the view in eclipse. go to the project and press F5.
[20:20:07] <rindolf> ron: Refresh does not do anything.
[20:20:29] <ron> could you paste a screenshot please? ~images
[20:20:33] <ron> err
[20:20:38] <ron> ~image
[20:20:38] <Arbalest> Please upload your screenshots online and then paste the link back to the channel - http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add - http://www.freeimagehosting.net/ - http://imagebin.ca/upload.php - http://imageshack.us/
[20:20:40] <ron> yay!
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[20:23:44] <rindolf> ron: http://imgur.com/uBdhG
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[20:29:55] <ron> rindolf: right click on the project->Properties->Java Build Path->Source
[20:30:21] <ron> you should see your src dir there. what do you have under Included and Excluded under the src path?
[20:31:04] <rindolf> ron: Included: All ; Excluded: None ;
[20:31:41] <ron> okay, I'm sorry to ask this, not trying to annoy you, but I really want to make sure. when you created the project, are you sure you picked a clojure project and not a java project?
[20:32:05] <rindolf> ron: yes, I did.
[20:33:28] <ron> rindolf: did you reset the perspective as suggested in the tutorial?
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[20:34:39] <rindolf> ron: I think I did.
[20:34:58] <rindolf> ron: yes, I did.
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[20:35:44] <ron> rindolf: can you pastebin your project's directory and sub directories?
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[20:36:21] <rindolf> ron: yes.
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[20:36:59] <rindolf> ron: I have this there - -rw-r--r-- 1 shlomif shlomif 3237168 Jun 28 23:34 clojure.jar
[20:37:10] <rindolf> ron: so it would be too large.
[20:37:20] <ron> shlomi? be'emet
[20:37:32] <rindolf> ron: yes.
[20:37:36] <ron> kta'im.
[20:37:39] <rindolf> ron: I'm Israeli.
[20:37:47] <ron> so it seems ;)
[20:38:39] <rindolf> ron: http://www.shlomifish.org/ - this is my home site.
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[20:39:34] <ron> rindolf: can you pastebin the 'll *' output under the project dir please... this problem is fairly weird.
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[20:40:12] <ron> walla, gimnasia hertzelia.
[20:40:29] <rindolf> ron: http://paste.debian.net/121986/
[20:40:34] <ron> you finished there two years before me.
[20:40:38] <rindolf> ron: ah.
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[20:42:21] <ron> hmm, the hidden files are missing. not that it should matter.
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[20:45:32] <ron> rindolf: sorry, I give up.
[20:45:45] <rindolf> ron: OK, then I guess it's a bug.
[20:45:50] <rindolf> ron: I'll report it.
[20:46:04] <ron> rindolf: good luck.
[20:46:45] <rindolf> ron: thanks.
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[20:53:40] <IanLiu> Is it possible to call a function in Eclipse GDB?
[20:55:31] <IanLiu> For instance, in GDB I can do 'call printf("foo")'. Is it possible to do the same in eclipse CDT when debugging a program?
[20:56:10] <heinz> do you have something like a gdb console?
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[21:00:30] <rindolf> ron: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=351229 - thanks.
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[21:02:22] <rindolf> ron: what did you study in Gimnasia Herzeliya?
[21:03:06] <ron> rindolf: computer science.
[21:03:18] <rindolf> ron: ah.
[21:03:21] <rindolf> ron: anything else?
[21:03:28] <rindolf> Maths, English, Physics?
[21:03:29] <ron> rindolf: nope. too lazy :)
[21:03:38] <ron> rindolf: well, maths and english obviously :)
[21:03:57] <rindolf> ron: ah, OK.
[21:04:07] <nbf> out of the blue I'm getting a bunch of errors like this: The type org.eclipse.swt.accessibility.ACC has been removed from org.eclipse.swt_3.7.0
[21:04:13] <nbf> relating to my SWT implementation
[21:04:22] <nbf> does anyone know what the fuck that means or how to fix it
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[21:09:19] <rindolf> ron: did you go to University afterwards?
[21:09:29] <ron> yup
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[21:11:17] <rindolf> ron: OK. What did you study?
[21:11:37] <ron> surprisingly, computer science.
[21:12:53] <rindolf> ron: :-)
[21:13:02] <rindolf> ron: where did you study?
[21:13:08] <ron> BIU
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[21:15:33] <rindolf> ron: ah.
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[21:18:02] <jink> I tried CS 2 times, and I hated it both times; I quit after a year, and after a year and half.
[21:18:18] <jink> I thought it was a waste of time and money. :)
[21:19:11] <ron> jink: well, it's a bit more complicated here. then again, you're a regex guru. you don't need no stinkin CS.
[21:19:18] <jink> Heh. :>
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[21:20:07] <ron> I can't believe I need to read a 90-page document for work. fml :(
[21:20:17] <jink> :D
[21:21:42] <ron> "Physicists: Universe Almost Certainly Not a Hologram" - o_O
[21:23:18] <rindolf> jink: I studied Electrical Engineering (well - more like Computer Engineering.)
[21:25:53] <jink> Nice. ^__^
[21:26:14] <jink> Sometimes I'd like to know stuff like that, too, but then again, work and family keep me busy enough as it is. ;)
[21:26:38] <jink> Eclipse totally sucks with largish xml files, btw. :)
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[21:26:59] <jink> (Default xml editor)
[21:27:42] <ron> jink: largish xml files suck as it is :)
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[21:28:40] <jink> Vim handles them JUST FINE! :P
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[21:28:56] <jink> (So, use vim and stfu..)  :)
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[21:29:49] <ron> well, VIM >>>>>>>> eclipse.
[21:29:58] <jink> :P
[21:30:09] <ron> too bad I don't have vim on windows.
[21:30:54] <jink> http://www.vim.org/download.php#pc
[21:33:03] <ron> I prefer notepad ;)
[21:34:49] <ron> what I'd really like to have under windows is grep.
[21:34:58] <ron> and locate.
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[21:40:45] <ron> wth did my CEO send me a link to http://www.yoctoproject.org/?
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[21:44:07] <jink> I'll call him and find out.  Hold on.
[21:44:35] <ron> oh, now I know why.
[21:44:37] <ron> hmpf.
[21:44:39] <ron> he's insane.
[21:44:49] <jink> He's CEO, what did you expect? :)
[21:44:54] <ron> true.
[21:45:07] <jink> Aaaaaaaaanyway, security's here to kick me out. :)
[21:45:09] <jink> Ciao. ^__^
[21:45:15] <ron> bye :)
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[21:57:51] <rindolf> Why does it take so long for Eclipse to update its indexes?
[21:58:40] <nbf> lots of data to index
[22:02:12] <rindolf> nbf: :-(
[22:05:14] <rindolf> nbf: why does it need to do that?
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[22:07:27] <nbf> you gotta update indices!\
[22:07:43] <nbf> how are you going to code if you don't update your indices?
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[22:49:34] <frojnd> Hi there
[22:49:51] <frojnd> I accidentally upgrade my system and got indigo instead of helios
[22:49:56] <frojnd> I know newbie me..
[22:50:04] <frojnd> so I need to install wtp
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[22:50:34] <frojnd> if I go to help-> install new software -> work with: I don't see any url
[22:50:48] <frojnd> what is the url for indigo from where I can download stuff?
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[22:52:24] <frojnd> How do I install web tool platform in indigo?
[22:52:25] <nitind> frojnd: http://download.eclipse.org/releases/indigo
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[22:52:33] <frojnd> tnx nitind
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[23:01:47] <frojnd> Thast's odd...
[23:01:59] <frojnd> WHen trying to run jsp code I select tomcat v7.0
[23:02:15] <frojnd> and I get a note: Cannot create a server using the selected type.
[23:02:45] <frojnd> Os: Archlinux, Eclipse - indigo. tomcat7
[23:02:50] <frojnd> tomcat7 is running however
[23:03:29] <frojnd> Even if I shutdown tomcat7 and try to run a code in eclipse it's the same message
[23:04:15] <ron> that's the only info in the message?
[23:05:22] <frojnd> Jeah. that's the window: Run On Server
[23:05:33] <frojnd> and when I select TOmcat v7.0 Server I get this
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[23:05:54] <frojnd> For tomcat installation directory I added: /usr/share/tomcat7
[23:05:57] <frojnd> so this is correct
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[23:09:47] <frojnd> any ideas?
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[23:10:31] <ron> http://hariprasad.info/cannot-create-a-server-using-the-selected-type-eclipse-tomcat/
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