[00:00:10] <qwp> damn it didnt work
[00:01:56] <qwp> actually "This tool allows you to pin an application and then have another application's windows group under the same icon without modifying the applications themselves" doesnt sound quite right
[00:02:36] <qwp> "It only works if you can launch both apps via a shortcut, child processes will have the default behaviour of having their own taskbar entry."
[00:02:52] <qwp> it is meant for having different programs combine into one group
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[00:03:42] <qwp> but thanks for your help ron
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[00:06:55] <qwp> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd378459%28VS.85%29.aspx
[00:07:01] <qwp> "Some applications do not declare an explicit AppUserModelID. They are optional. In that case, the system uses a series of heuristics to assign an internal AppUserModelID."
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[00:13:53] <gastaldi> hey
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[00:20:29] <gastaldi> Where is the best place to get m2eclipse for Indigo ?
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[00:21:50] <gastaldi> http://m2eclipse.sonatype.org/sites/m2e/ ?
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[00:25:05] <rcjsuen> gastaldi: It's not available from the Indigo site?
[00:25:08] <rcjsuen> I thought they moved
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[00:29:29] <gastaldi> That URL might be the only one who worked for me
[00:29:30] <gastaldi> http://m2eclipse.sonatype.org/sites/m2e/
[00:30:02] <rcjsuen> Sounds like a bug of some sort then.
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[00:58:49] <qwp> hey can i download a cdt icon file somewhere?
[00:58:57] <qwp> not just the png, it looks like crap if used as an icon
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[01:05:39] <hallowblitz> how would I do the equivalent of this in eclipse? "you have to setup your project makefile/build.xml/pom-file to copy the resources from the source into the bin-directory"
[01:08:41] <hallowblitz> I'm trying to use: ResourceBundle.getBundle( "Messages" );
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[01:08:51] <hallowblitz> and Messages.properties seems to want to be in bin folder
[01:09:35] <hallowblitz> but then if I make a jar file it will not find it if it's outside the .jar
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[01:10:25] <sproaty> can I make any character 'accept' an autocomplete an insert it after the suggestion? e.g. type "do" [hit ctrl+space] -> suggests doSomething() -> press "." and it auto-completes "doSomething()."
[01:10:46] <sproaty> currently it's just doing "do."
[01:11:32] <hallowblitz> there was an url to the faq about that
[01:12:00] <hallowblitz> maybe this? http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#I_would_like_code_completion_to_be_activated_as_I_type_like_how_it_works_in_Visual_Studio.3F_Can_I_turn_this_on_somewhere.3F
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[01:13:30] <sproaty> cheers
[01:17:27] <rcjsuen> qwp: No.
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[01:20:54] <qwp> rcjsuen: why not
[01:21:36] <rcjsuen> qwp: Not sure what answer you're looking for. It's because only the gif is available in source control.
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[01:24:59] <qwp> rcjsuen: only the png i thought
[01:25:05] <qwp> rcjsuen: well i mean a real .ico file
[01:25:40] <rcjsuen> Pretty much all Eclipse icons I've seen are .gif files, hence I'm guessing your C file icon is also a gif. I could be wrong maybe it's a PNG.
[01:26:36] <qwp> rcjsuen: i mean this http://wiki.eclipse.org/CDT/logos
[01:27:22] <qwp> rcjsuen: the default cdt icon looks exactly like standard eclipse
[01:27:25] <qwp> and i want the cdt
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[01:27:51] <qwp> rcjsuen: it is contained in the binary btw, not a in a gif
[01:28:11] <rcjsuen> well if you have Photoshop you can open the PSD file I guess
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[01:34:15] <qwp> i just want to change the app id of eclipse.exe
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[01:47:20] <qwp> hey rcjsuen eclipse just closes whenever i want to open a cpp file
[01:47:33] <qwp> when i expand the prject view and double click on a file it closes
[01:47:39] <qwp> and doesnt return
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[01:48:33] <nitind> qep: Eclipse itself closes?
[01:49:13] <wissem> I have installed jdk and when I tried installing JRE it said that it is already there
[01:49:25] <wissem> but when I try testing i have this error "The specified JRE installation does not exist"
[01:49:30] <nitind> The JDK is a superset of a JRE's content.
[01:49:35] <qwp> nitind: yes
[01:49:36] <nitind> testing?
[01:49:54] <wissem> just trting a hello world program
[01:49:57] <qwp> nitind: i googled and tried adding an -XX:-UseCompressedOops in the eclipse.ini but it didnt help at all
[01:50:01] <nitind> qwp: Anything in the ~log?  If not, check the CDT ~forum .
[01:50:06] <wissem> I'm on debian
[01:50:24] <qwp> nitind: the %workspace%/.metadata/.log is empty
[01:50:43] <qwp> it just says !MESSAGE The workspace exited with unsaved changes in the previous session; refreshing workspace to recover changes.
[01:50:46] <qwp> no stacktrace or nothing
[01:50:52] <nitind> wissem: Sounds like the contents of your Installed JREs preference page, or the launch configuration for your hello world program have gone stale.
[01:51:04] <nitind> qwp: ~forum time.
[01:51:14] <qwp> no forums suck
[01:51:21] <qwp> i prefer realtime chat
[01:51:31] <nitind> qwp: Then you're welcome to wait and see if anyone else has an idea.
[01:51:39] <qwp> :(
[01:51:44] <qwp> ok
[01:52:12] <rcjsuen> unless the VM generated a crash log it's hard to say
[01:52:25] <wissem> so? how to fix this please
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[01:54:06] <nitind> wissem: Go to the Installed JREs preference page and make sure it's pointing to legitamate JRE or JDK paths.  Then from the Run->Run Configurations dialog make sure you've selected one of those valid runtimes to use when launching your program.
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[01:54:49] <wissem> NiteRain: okay and how I find path of jre on my system?
[01:55:18] <NiteRain> hmm, think you meant someone else, but if you are on linux
[01:55:23] <nitind> wissem: I don't know that one for sure.  I don't run Debian.
[01:55:33] <hallowblitz> hey, I've added a class folder in Java Build Path->Libraries, it has a .properties file, and when I run my program from within eclipse works fine, but when I export .jar or runnable .jar it fails, and that folder is not in the jar's manifest file in classpath, how to fiX?
[01:55:35] <NiteRain> and if you have mlocate or slocate you just type in locate jre
[01:55:41] <NiteRain> mlocate jre or slocate jr
[01:55:43] <NiteRain> jre
[01:56:11] <nitind> You don't want to use the jre folder within a jdk.  Use the jdk folder directly.
[01:56:59] <wissem> oh that works
[01:57:13] <UndefinedOffset> hi, i'm building my first sorta plugin for eclipse, I'm trying to add a new template variable. But when I try to use the auto complete it throws this stack dump http://www.pastie.org/private/w4k7eoourzfwstn8tz8aq , my class looks like this http://www.pastie.org/private/ibomxvcwwkrp5xjwlszoq any one have any ideas for a learning dev?
[01:57:24] <wissem> I'm a little bit confused... I downloaded only downloaded JDK
[01:57:31] <wissem> should I have jre too?
[01:57:48] <hallowblitz> I mean, how to add a classpath in the manifest file inside the jar, and then have eclipse export it as jar
[01:58:02] <nitind> The JDK is a superset of a JRE's content.
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[01:58:58] <wissem> thansk :)
[01:59:16] <paulweb515_> hallowblitz: is it a java jar or an OSGi bundle
[01:59:17] <paulweb515_> ?
[01:59:41] <nitind> hallowblitz: And why aren't you just exporting those classes into the jar as well?
[01:59:51] <hallowblitz> paulweb515: I rightclicked on my project and Export->Java->Jar  (or runnable Jar)
[02:00:25] <hallowblitz> nitind: sorry, which classes?
[02:00:47] <nitind> UndefinedOffset: In the Breakpoints View, hit the J! button and fill in the exception type.  That'll hit like a breakpoint when you reproduce it.
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[02:01:04] <nitind> hallowblitz: The one in the class folder?
[02:01:15] <nitind> s/one/ones
[02:01:50] <hallowblitz> nitind: I was hoping to be able to add it near the jar as a normal folder with the .properties file inside it, and have the jar get it from there, that is why I'd need the classpath in the jar's manifest to be ./folder/  instead of just .
[02:02:05] <rvsjoen> ok, so I installed indigo, installed the svn provider and connector and pointed it to my helios workspace, now I can't get the old projects to "pick up" that they are subversion projects, checking out new projects from svn works, anyone have a clue how to fix that ?
[02:02:22] <hallowblitz> that class folder I meantion, is empty, has only a *.properties file
[02:02:33] <hallowblitz> I only wanted it added to classpath, unless there's another way
[02:03:03] <hallowblitz> everything else is exported into jar, let me recheck
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[02:05:09] <qwp> nitind: rcjsuen interesting this seems to fix it: -XX:-UseCompressedOops -XX:MaxPermSize in eclipse.ini
[02:05:16] <qwp> for future reference
[02:05:33] <qwp> jvm params
[02:05:44] <nitind> qwp: Wait, what?  Doesn't one of those take a number as well?
[02:06:02] <qwp> nitind: hm it foundthat on google and tried it and it works
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[02:06:37] <qwp> http://java.dzone.com/articles/latest-java-update-fixes i have a much later jdk still i tried and it fixed it
[02:06:57] <nitind> Any 32-bit/64-bit shenanigans?
[02:06:59] <hallowblitz> everything except the folder is into jar
[02:07:00] <hallowblitz> though I did `export` on the project, instead of a specific package
[02:07:00] <hallowblitz> (as runnable jar)
[02:07:02] <rvsjoen> deleting the project and re-adding as existing project seems to "re-enable" the svn on the project
[02:07:02] <hallowblitz> this is the .classpath entry : <classpathentry exported="true" kind="lib" path="translations"/>
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[02:07:02] <hallowblitz> ok grrr, I forgot to hit F5, the folder was empty as seen in package explorer, let me see now
[02:07:22] <qwp> so it works
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[02:10:42] <hallowblitz> ok, now that it can see that folder has 1 file (the *.properties file) it added it into the root of the .jar but the classpath remained "." therefore my program does run, but I failed to do what I wanted, that is add the folder ".\translations\" to the classpath in the manifest file of the jar, so that I can add files outside of the jar
[02:11:08] <hallowblitz> it added the file to the root of the jar, not the entire folder btw
[02:11:58] <hallowblitz> so forget all that, how can I tell the manifest file inside the .jar to add a certain folder to the classpath ? that is, before I execute the exporting as .jar
[02:12:57] <hallowblitz> and, is it possible to Export->Java->JAR file (instead of runnable jar file, as above) and have this jar's manifest contain a classpath of "." (it has none) ?
[02:13:27] <UndefinedOffset> nitind: looks like its comming from createResolver() in ContributionContextTypeRegistry. Its calling resolver.setType(type); which internally checks to see if the fType is not null, but it is null for some reason even though in my class I'm passing the template code that I want to use back up to the parent constructor but it looks like this is supposed to be null according to line 169 of TemplateVariableResolver.class
[02:13:53] <hallowblitz> the problem is, that exporting as runnable jar exports all the project packages and stuff, but I rather export only a certain package but still retain the classpath of current folder, just as `export as runnable jar` does
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[02:19:14] <hallowblitz> a side note, looks like moving or deleting files (that are not java files, in jdt btw) from class folders (ie. *.properties files instead of *.java files) make them disappear temporarily and require an F5 to refresh
[02:20:16] <hallowblitz> (that is, they remain after delete, and disappear after move)
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[02:23:10] <hallowblitz> also, if I have two folders with the same named file, though different contents (two files with same name in diff folders that is) and I export as runnable jar, only one of those files will be in the jar and more specifically in the root (aka it has no parent folder) so the other file is just lost
[02:23:24] <hallowblitz> is it a bug or I'm missing something (as usual)
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[02:28:18] <hallowblitz> i generated an ant script with my last .jar export: http://pastebin.com/KHqVtPEw
[02:29:38] <hallowblitz> (but this time I had selected a different option on export named: copy required libraries into a sub-folder next to the generated JAR)
[02:31:41] <hallowblitz> ok this ant script (when I chose the normal option on export jar that is: Export->Java->Runnable JAR file, Extract required libraries into generated JAR) http://pastebin.com/VQCU5x47
[02:32:25] <hallowblitz> and when I ran thar script it added both files (with same identical name!) in the root of the .jar (I can see this with winrar)
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[02:33:41] <hallowblitz> twilight zone http://i.imgur.com/a6vZR.jpg
[02:33:59] <hallowblitz> shouldn't they be like each in their own folder? this way they seem inaccessible
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[02:35:26] <hallowblitz> it almost looks like running that ant script is more bugged than letting eclipse do it, even though both do it in a non-expecting way (expecting the files to remain in their own folders rather than in root)... ok so, I guess no point in just babling about it right?! :)
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[02:53:36] <gastaldi> hey
[02:53:42] <gastaldi> M2Eclipse 1.0 is surely a crap
[02:53:56] <gastaldi> I had to do this to make it work: http://wiki.eclipse.org/M2E_plugin_execution_not_covered
[02:54:04] <gastaldi> And not in its entirely
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[03:03:52] <milleja46> ok...How do i view line numbers in eclipse?
[03:04:43] <paulweb515_> milleja46: Preferences>General>Editors>Text Editors I thinkg
[03:04:58] <milleja46> hmm i'll try that
[03:06:08] <milleja46> paulweb515_: thanks worked like a charm ;D
[03:17:49] <nitind> milleja46: Also, context menu on the left-hand vertical ruler.
[03:19:57] <milleja46> nitind: that woudl probably work but i've already got it working and this makes it so much easier when the logging part of the program tells me where the problems has come in when the code decides to crash on it...this is so great :)
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[06:28:39] <johntramp> I'm having a problem with using the automatic formatting in cdt. For the most part it works great but it seems to insist on putting the semiconlons after macro calls on a separate lines.
[06:28:43] <johntramp> Is this a bug? or did I mischeck a combination of formatting settings which lead to this?
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[07:43:40] <g00s> anyone having trouble with line numbers updating correctly? when i scroll up and down, the line numbers remain unchanged, while the text scrolls. using 3.7 cocoa on mac
[07:44:21] <g00s> oh, in the jdt
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[08:34:35] <ron> g00s: did you check bug reports?
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[08:48:34] <g00s> i guess there have been some issues since 3.6
[08:48:49] <g00s> oh well, restarting seems to work
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[08:55:15] <ron> \o/
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[08:58:44] <g00s> didn't find the exact problem. the closes one was "screen cheese"
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[09:01:51] <g00s> ah, ok here is the exact one https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=320718
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[09:06:32] <eshan> hello : How do we override eclipse existing xml editor from another external editor ? eg : pom.xml is opened with m2e editor while web.xml is opened with default xml edior ?
[09:07:44] <eshan> it is configurable in org.eclipse.ui.editors extension point (for a new editor )
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[09:33:44] <nitind> eshan: If your files are their own content type, associate an editor with that content type.
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[09:34:21] <ron> hmpf. I really want to install indigo.
[09:34:35] <nitind> I won't stop you.
[09:34:49] <ron> you won't, but my work will ;)
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[09:42:31] <ron> heh, eclipse entered an endless loop.
[09:42:45] <ron> or rather, m2e did.
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[09:44:57] <petisnnake> Hi, I just downloaded eclipse 2.2 php pdt, but If I try to create a new remote connection, ftp, ssh etc are all missing from my options list and i can only connect with General->Linux . Any ideas why?
[09:45:45] <nitind> You may not have installed the plug-ins for those connection methods.
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[09:46:07] <petisnnake> but shouldnt they be default?
[09:46:13] <petisnnake> If not where can I install them from/
[09:51:45] <reisi> was there a way to, in batch, to generate maven2 metadata out of eclipse manifests?
[09:51:53] <eshan> nitind : Is there any documentation or a tutorial to get some more information regarding this ? this is what i wanted to do last time ( we had a discussion about filtering a specific file such that that file is opened with my swing editor  )
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[09:58:05] <reisi> hmm i wonder why com.ibm.icu is distributed in two jars; neither imports packages from the other
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[10:29:52] <sunmao> Hi! I would like to set all of my Eclipse workspaces to UTF-8 by default. I've added this option: -Dfile.encoding=UTF-8 to my eclipse.ini file. Now the workspace is opening with UTF-8 by default, but the content type for example java properties is still ISO-8859-1. I would like to set every Content-Type to UTF-8 by default (ofcourse when i create a new project also), is there a parameter for it, like for workspace settings?
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[10:37:35] <soc42> hi #eclipse
[10:38:36] <soc42> i am using eclipse pdt helios with "rse/target management"
[10:39:25] <soc42> while working on a current project directly on the remote host, i experienced, that files weren't updated successfully
[10:39:41] <soc42> i opened up a .php file, made some changes
[10:39:53] <soc42> save it (on the remote site)
[10:40:02] <soc42> while still having it open in eclipse
[10:40:18] <soc42> but when i look on the remote site via ftp, the file hasn't been updated
[10:40:37] <soc42> did anybody experience the same or has some clues to fix this problem?
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[10:42:51] <soc42> the ftp-mode for the remote site is set to "passive"
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[10:43:33] <soc42> it seems that there are some caching/remote refreshing problems with my settings
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[10:45:20] <ron> I think that generally speaking it's a bad practice to work that way.
[10:45:38] <ron> though, unfortunately, I can't offer you any words of wisdom as to how to solve it.
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[10:48:22] <soc42> ron: why don't work on a remote development plattform that way? what do you suggest?
[10:49:42] <ron> soc42: work locally, deploy remotely :)
[10:55:47] <ron> soc42: I think the real question is... why work remotely and note locally?
[10:58:00] <sunmao> Is anybody knows where can I set the Contet-Types to UTF-8 for ecslipse by default? For eg when I create a new workspace the contet-type will be ISO-8859-1
[10:58:35] <ron> sunmao: you can change the encoding in the preferences.
[10:58:41] <jink> sunmao: Goto Preferences, filter on encoding.
[10:58:49] <jink> You'll get a couple of options.
[10:58:56] <sunmao> when I create a new workspace the contet-type will be ISO-8859-1 again
[10:59:43] <sunmao> I have got a parameter at eclipse.ini -Dfile.encoding=UTF-8 but this sets the workspace only but not the content-types
[10:59:51] <jink> ...
[11:00:05] <sunmao> so If I create a new Java property file it will be ISO-8859-1
[11:00:10] <sunmao> jink: what...?
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[11:00:24] <jink> How is passing a define the same as editing the preferences?
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[11:01:57] <sunmao> You could try out... If you add this property you will see under Window > Preferences > General > Workspace > Text file encoding is changed
[11:02:20] <sunmao> the Default value will be what you defined as parameter
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[11:05:16] <jink> sunmao: Preferences -> General -> Content Types -> Java Properties File -> Default encoding.
[11:05:25] <jink> That's ISO-8859-1 by default.
[11:05:29] <sunmao> yes
[11:05:39] <sunmao> that's what i want to change
[11:05:48] <jink> So, change it! :)
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[11:06:12] <jink> Put in whatever you want, then click update.  That should work.
[11:06:53] <sunmao> yes i know :)
[11:06:54] <sunmao> but for a newly created workspace it will be ISO-8859-1
[11:07:14] <sunmao> I want to set the DEFAULT to is UTF-8
[11:07:27] <sunmao> And I dont want to care this encoding stuff anymore
[11:07:54] <jink> Right.  I somehow mixed Project and Workspace, it all makes sense now. :P
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[11:15:08] <zagibu> does anyone know a good place for asking some xtext questions?
[11:16:33] <sunmao> jink: and what is the solution? :D
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[11:19:16] <jink> sunmao: Copy your workspace dir, change the setting, compare. :)
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[11:24:24] <moradan> hello. What approach should I use to add and remove columns to the Table in the TableViewer? I tried to remove column with TableColumn.dispose(), but after that I had problems with adding columns. I tried to add all possible column and setWidth(0) to those columns that I want to hide, but this approach looks ugly too, since I can not manage to hide those columns that should be initially hidden.
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[11:38:40] <Talmir> hello
[11:39:20] <Talmir> I've got a question (I've spent a few hours trying to find the answer through google-foo but to no success) and hope some of you eclipse guru's can help a desperate coder :)
[11:40:22] <Talmir> I am using the c++ version of eclipse (32 bit).. I have a file called f.x. foo.h and foo.c... now I am trying to prototype the void foo(int n); in the .h file, and write the function in the .c file
[11:40:32] <Talmir> but eclipse doesnt seem to make the connection
[11:40:55] <Talmir> is there some step I am forgetting? (switching from visual c++ express here, over there this works fine)
[11:41:25] <zagibu> a problem with multiple xtext-projects: if I run the different ui projects, I always get the same workspace...shouldn't it be different for each xtext ui project?
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[11:42:28] <pulse00> Talmir: i think there's a right-click context menu item for implemening functions from c headers in the sourcefile, but it's a long time ago since i used it
[11:44:52] <Talmir> yeah, I saw the source part of the right click menu where you can choose implementation, but that seems to insist on creating a new function instead of searching for a already present implementation
[11:45:21] <pulse00> sorry, never tried that
[11:45:28] <Talmir> kk :) thanks anyway
[11:45:36] <pulse00> i mostly just created new implementations
[11:45:40] <pulse00> what do you need the connection for?
[11:45:49] <pulse00> if it's already there
[11:46:37] <Talmir> I want the .h file to work with the .c file.. so the prototype of the function is in the .h file but the code is in hte .c file
[11:47:09] <Talmir> I am importing a pretty big project that was built up like that, and dont relish the idea of rewriting it all because of eclipse functionality that tbh should be there already
[11:47:26] <pulse00> nope, sorry
[11:47:39] <pulse00> probably try the cdt mailing list
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[12:43:23] <rawbdor> anyone know where the most recent release of target management is?
[12:43:35] <rawbdor> i'm looking here http://www.eclipse.org/tm/
[12:43:39] <rawbdor> but the 3.3 links are broken
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[12:52:15] <ron> broken how?
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[12:58:38] <Talmir> gotta ask again (maybe someone new logged on, this crap isnt working for me atm). I am including in my project a .h file with an accompanying .c file. I use a function from the .h file, but it spits out an "undefined reference to 'blah'" error..
[12:58:44] <Talmir> anyone know a fix?
[12:58:57] <ron> sure. switch to Java.
[12:58:58] <ron> :)
[12:59:06] <Talmir> :(
[12:59:13] <Talmir> java doesnt work with avr microcontrollers
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[12:59:28] <Talmir> well, ok, maybe it does
[12:59:31] <Talmir> but c++ is mah thang
[12:59:38] <ron> you won't find much cdt support. you'd have better luck in the ~forums
[12:59:38] <Arbalest> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/
[13:00:15] <Talmir> been looking there, cant find an answer.. but hey.. link google next... I never ask in irc unless I've pretty much exhausted other options
[13:01:12] <ron> I suggested you POST there, not SEARCH there. but hey, be an ass, that'll surely get you the help you need.
[13:01:18] <Talmir> ahh
[13:01:28] <Talmir> no, I wasnt talking to you ron
[13:01:32] <Talmir> Arbalest linked the forums
[13:01:37] * ron sighs
[13:01:38] <Talmir> like I hadnt gone there to look :)
[13:01:59] <ron> Arbalest is a bot. He was triggered by me when I added the ~ before the word forums.
[13:02:08] <Talmir> looking there again now tho, since I've come a full circle. Will probably post there then
[13:02:10] <Talmir> ah, I see
[13:02:25] <Talmir> didnt mean to be an ass, sorry..
[13:02:47] <Talmir> just kinda sick of "learn 2 google, noob" responses :P
[13:03:47] <ron> It wasn't such a response. I already assumed you googled. Since there aren't many CDT users here, and I don't think any CDT developers, the best way to get their assistance is by posting in the forums.
[13:06:14] <Talmir> kk, will do, thanks
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[13:40:41] <pulse00> anyone knows how to change the default vm arguments for junit plugin tests?
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[13:50:50] <ed8> hi, what UML plugin do you recommend ?
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[13:51:42] <xea> i greatly sympathise with uml lab but it has no free versions
[13:51:48] <xea> except the 30day trial :)
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[13:53:33] <ed8> xea: any free plugin ?
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[13:57:00] <ron> ed8: my recommendation is to not use UML :)
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[14:02:06] <Talmir> I use visio for my work (got it at school tho)
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[14:24:49] <timotei> is there an alternative to the eclipse mailing list?
[14:24:57] <timotei> they contained *a LOT* of useful information
[14:25:00] <timotei> now they are just doomed
[14:25:01] <timotei> :((
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[14:25:17] <ron> meh?
[14:25:29] <lisak> have anybody managed to debug TestNG itself ?
[14:25:43] <lisak> without having it imported as project
[14:26:14] <ron> what is it with people today who ask questions that don't make sense?
[14:26:58] <timotei> ron: lol?
[14:27:07] <ron> really? lol?
[14:27:11] <ron> that's your response?
[14:27:15] <rcjsuen> timotei: I don't understand what you're saying.
[14:27:39] <timotei> rcjsuen: I'm just angry that the mailing lists were deleted. and Google cache doesn't have all them :(
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[14:27:55] <rcjsuen> I guess you meant the newsgroup archives.
[14:28:04] <timotei> I've read the whole morning threads searching for some solutions
[14:28:07] <timotei> yeah, newsgroup :P
[14:29:58] <rcjsuen> I thought all of that was mirrored in the forums.
[14:30:15] <rcjsuen> But I guess links are bad if anyone linked to the newsgroup archives.
[14:30:36] <timotei> I'm trying to get the small help icon in wizards to appear. but it doesn't
[14:30:46] <timotei> I've configured the 'setHelpAvailable'
[14:31:04] <timotei> however, the code for creating the help icon, isn't called anymore after that
[14:31:10] <timotei> meaning, I don't have any help icon
[14:31:30] <timotei> doing the: WizardDialog.setDialogHelpAvailable( true ); thingy, renders that, but it doesn't link with the right context it
[14:31:38] <timotei> that is, it doesn't trigger any help window
[14:31:57] <rcjsuen> look at how other Eclipse dialogs do it then
[14:32:11] <timotei> well, I have a programatically way of creating a new wizard. That works
[14:32:22] <timotei> but the default, as are did with the eclipse tutorials, don't work
[14:32:27] <timotei> this is in a RCP app
[14:35:36] <lisak> how come that if you have a jar on the classpath that contains a class with main method, i get ClassNotFoundException for that class if I Run As Java application
[14:35:53] <lisak> cannot be done like that ?
[14:36:21] <rcjsuen> you could cross-check the launch config and make sure its classpath is okay
[14:36:26] <rcjsuen> or check the command Eclipse is using to run the main
[14:36:30] <rcjsuen> that'll likely shed more light on your pb
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[14:37:59] <lisak> rcjsuen, there's nothing to check, if you click on a class with main method and run as java app, it just runs this Main class
[14:38:16] <lisak> the ClassNotFoundException is for this class
[14:38:33] <rcjsuen> I just suggested two things for you to check, the latter being the most likely to help you.
[14:39:36] <rcjsuen> If you feel that there is nothing to check and that neither of those two things will help you, that's your prerogative.
[14:40:14] <lisak> I didn't understand the second one, I created a Configuration for that ...for my project and this Main Class ..it has the classpath of the project
[14:40:33] <lisak> bootstrap libs and maven dependencies
[14:41:15] <esperegu> how can I use a file in eclipse? What is the path I have to specify when I do File strategy_file = new File("mystrategy.jfx");
[14:41:25] <lisak> but eclipse seems to be able to run Main classes only from the source base I suppose
[14:42:08] <rcjsuen> lisak: In your 'Debug' view do you see your terminated launch configuration?
[14:42:23] <rcjsuen> esperegu: I don't understand your question.
[14:43:06] <esperegu> rcjsuen: I want to load a file but I get a NullPointerException no matter where on the filesystem I put the file ( loadStrategy(Unknown Source) )
[14:43:41] <rcjsuen> by _default_
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[14:43:56] <rcjsuen> you want your mystrategy.jfx in the root folder of your project where your main class is
[14:44:02] <lisak> rcjsuen, http://imm.io/6TJg
[14:44:07] <rcjsuen> (Note that I am not endorsing this method)
[14:44:19] <rcjsuen> lisak: that's your launch config dialog, I want your 'Debug' view
[14:44:38] <rcjsuen> ~tell lisak about debug-command
[14:44:38] <Arbalest> lisak: Need to find out what the command line invocation was for a process launched by Eclipse? See here - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#How_do_I_check_for_the_command_line_invocation_that_Eclipse_used_to_launch_an_application.3F
[14:44:45] <rcjsuen> lisak: Check that to see what the CLI invocation is.
[14:44:46] <lisak> rcjsuen, you have it on the right side
[14:44:56] <rcjsuen> you're right, my mistake
[14:45:16] <rcjsuen> From the CLI invocation you can see the classpath Eclipse is passing to Java.
[14:45:21] <rcjsuen> Then you can determine what might be thep roblem
[14:46:02] <timotei> rcjsuen: the thing is, if I launch an eclipse app, it works fine :)
[14:46:16] <timotei> only on RCP app it has problems :(
[14:52:08] <lisak> rcjsuen, cool, I thought this classpath in properties was an m2eclipse feature
[14:52:22] <lisak> anyway I sorted it out
[14:52:53] <esperegu> rcjsuen: there I put it. that is I did File > new > File and then made a 'link to file in the file system'
[14:52:57] <lisak> it's m2eclipse bug possibly,  there are all dependencies specified on the project's pom only on the classpath, but no inherited dependencies from parent projects
[14:54:04] <lisak> so that the classic maven inheritance paradigm doesn't exist when running  eclipse Java command
[14:56:17] <rcjsuen> lisak: Well I would expect the launc hconfig classpath to match the project's (whatever is defined in the .classpath) *shrugs*
[14:56:35] <rcjsuen> esperegu: So you mean the file isn't actually there on disk.
[14:56:44] <rcjsuen> well then that doesn't count
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[14:58:02] <lisak> me too,   correction :   it doesn't put  <scope>test</scope>  dependencies on the launc hconfig classpath :) the inheritance works,  TestNG is from test scope ... I just make it default scope and it works
[14:58:03] <esperegu> rcjsuen: where should it be then? I tried creating a symlink on multiple locations
[14:58:15] <rcjsuen> <rcjsuen> you want your mystrategy.jfx in the root folder of your project where your main class is
[14:58:45] <esperegu> rcjsuen: the .class file in the bin dir?
[14:58:47] <rcjsuen> I guess an OS symlink might work, I've never tried that with Java though.
[14:59:06] <rcjsuen> Not clear to me what the .class files have to do with your problem right now.
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[15:00:06] <esperegu> rcjsuen: in the dir with the Main.java file then?
[15:00:18] <ed8> is it possible to import existing source with Papyrus (UML) ?
[15:00:21] <rcjsuen> in the root folder of your project
[15:00:27] <rcjsuen> i expect your source files to be in a separate src/ folder
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[15:04:27] <esperegu> rcjsuen: I get a weird error: http://dpaste.com/560175/
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[15:04:51] <rcjsuen> We can't help you with these kinds of problems.
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[15:08:30] <protoquark> can anyone point me to a p2 headless build of a feature example?
[15:09:06] <timotei> protoquark: http://aniefer.blogspot.com/2008/06/example-headless-build-for-rcp-product.html
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[15:09:41] <protoquark> timotei: that's a product though, and uses a .product file and the productBuild.xml script, I'm looking to just build a feature
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[15:09:54] <timotei> oh.
[15:09:55] <timotei> ok
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[15:09:58] <timotei> sorry
[15:10:24] <protoquark> timotei: no problem :)
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[16:02:47] <UndefinedOffset> any one know of away to get the active wizard? For instance I'm trying to get the file name from a new file wizard
[16:03:01] <UndefinedOffset> for use in a templatevariableresolver
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[16:10:03] <rcjsuen> I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to do.
[16:10:34] <ron> rcjsuen: he's trying to get the active wizard.
[16:10:41] <rcjsuen> ron: Alright, you got me.
[16:12:28] <UndefinedOffset> rcjsuen: I have a templatevariableresolver that adds a file_name variable that returns just the file name no extension, it works for content assist templates just not when creating new files heres what i have http://www.pastie.org/2134304
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[16:14:50] <rcjsuen> I'd think you'd be asking the template context for information instead of reaching out into the workbench with random static methods
[16:16:00] <rcjsuen> jdt knows about the file_name variable I thought you could check how they do it i suppose
[16:17:23] <UndefinedOffset> rcjsuen: that'll work, its actually what i'm trying to find an example for now. I'll have a look around in there then
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[16:21:43] <lisak> rcjsuen, do you know if it is possible to run an eclipse plugin like this one https://github.com/toddq/testng-eclipse as a JAR on classpath :-) ?
[16:22:02] <rcjsuen> I don't fully understand your question, but I'll assume no.
[16:22:15] <rcjsuen> Unless you feel like adding all its dependencies on the classpath also
[16:22:25] <rcjsuen> but even then it might require OSGi to kick in
[16:22:45] <lisak> rcjsuen, yeah that's right
[16:23:02] <lisak> ok, thanks
[16:23:19] <ron> hmm, can I change blue to red in eclipse?
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[16:54:28] <nitind> ron: You're going to have to be a little more specific.
[16:55:05] <ron> I want red instead of blue.
[16:55:22] <ron> so that when there's blue, red will be instead.
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[16:59:10] <timotei> ron: and you were talking about other people that they are crazy? haha
[16:59:20] <timotei> nitind: he's just trolling
[16:59:36] <ron> I think he realized that already.
[17:00:03] <timotei> it's a shame stupid people spare in bad ways other people's precious time
[17:00:08] <rcjsuen> ron: Actually, when you elaborated on your issue, I thought you may have been colour blind.
[17:00:18] <rcjsuen> I guess this is not actually an accessibility issue.
[17:00:48] <ron> timotei: I wholeheartedly agree.
[17:00:54] <timotei> ron: you could invers the monitor's blue and red signals and you'll get what you want ;)
[17:01:06] <timotei> s/invers/invert
[17:01:10] <ron> rcjsuen: well, I admit I didn't realize it my relate to my color blindness. should have used something completely differnt.
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[19:15:31] <monk12> hello all, curious in Eclipse's Variable view. i know deep down in the request->getParameterMap->table is some HashMaps with some values that are useful to me... is there anyway to search this view more easier for Strings in Objects? i tried COntrol+F, but thats just useful if searching/matching on something like  '[15]'. it doesn't search deep in the list.
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[19:44:18] <Sengoku> hey
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[19:47:45] <Sengoku> I'm having an issue where I'm getting classnotfound exceptions for classes that are in my libraries
[19:48:54] <Sengoku> if i create the war and deploy it to tomcat, those exceptions go away
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[19:49:08] <Sengoku> (using maven)
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[20:07:42] <kaje> Is there some table on the web that shows what icon each constant in org.eclipse.ui.ISharedImages refers to?
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[20:21:51] <paulweb515> kaje: I don't think os.  http://help.eclipse.org/helios/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.user/reference/ref-68.htm shows most of our icons, but the mapping is in the org.eclipse.ui/plugin.xml extension points
[20:22:06] <paulweb515> kaje: and probably the code as well :-)
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[20:25:36] <kaje> yeah, was hoping someone had made it clear. Maybe I'll put up a page on the wiki when I get a chance. Thanks.
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[20:40:05] <swinchen> Hi all.  Is there a way to make eclipse export a jar on build?   I am getting sick of going to the "export jar" dialog every time I make a change.
[20:40:53] <rcjsuen> if you setup a builder to do so, then yes
[20:41:04] <rcjsuen> tho it's not clear to me why you need to export a jar every 20 seconds
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[20:42:49] <swinchen> I don't build every 20 seconds...   but every time I do build it is for testing.
[20:43:10] <swinchen> How could I set up the builder to do that?
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[20:58:53] <swinchen> So I created a new builder.  I don't see any options for exporting a jar file.
[20:59:28] <rcjsuen> you'd write an Ant script (for example)
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[21:38:10] <lisak> cbeust_, hey cedric,  the deployed artifacts testng-6.0.1.jar and testng-6.0.1-sources.jar in maven central doesn't seem to match, is it possible ?
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[21:38:54] <lisak> might be the debugger issue, but I'm debugging the source and the lines absolutely don't match
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[21:41:22] <lisak> got it, the debugger is really confused,  It debugs RemoteTestNG but it actually shows TestNG class .... I give up on this...
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[21:42:56] <lisak> I'll let testNG internals uncovered and I'll continue to ask stupid questions :)
[21:43:57] <abhatnag> is there a way to extract from eclipse the exact command it runs when one clicks 'Run'? So a cmd including all the classpaths etc
[21:44:58] <The_8472> just inspect the spawned process
[21:45:22] <The_8472> process explorer on windows, /proc on *nix
[21:47:24] <abhatnag> The_8472: but would that give me the command used to create the process?
[21:47:38] <The_8472> ~~abhatnag  tias
[21:47:42] <lisak> just to document what actually happens  http://imm.io/6UDJ   see the names of classes editor / debug view
[21:47:54] <The_8472> ah wrong channel...
[21:48:00] <The_8472> abhatnag, try it and see
[21:48:25] <lisak> and the method the stack pointer is in
[21:49:27] <The_8472> lisak, might be a mismatch between source and class files?
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[21:50:04] <lisak> I use the same deployed artifacts testng-6.0.1.jar and testng-6.0.1-sources.jar
[21:50:14] <abhatnag> The_8472: how do I spot it in proc though? I don't see an obvious name such as eclipse... or something related in it?
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[21:50:43] <The_8472> abhatnag... that's linux 101
[21:51:08] <abhatnag> The_8472: heh k, let me read up on it first
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[21:52:10] <rindolf> Hi all.
[21:52:11] <rindolf> When trying to follow the instructions here - http://dev.clojure.org/display/doc/Getting+Started+with+Eclipse+and+Counterclockwise - I'm getting this - http://pastie.org/2135881 . What should I do?
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[21:55:21] <The_8472> rindolf, what eclipse package did you install?
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[21:57:20] <rindolf> The_8472: eclipse-3.6.2-13.mga2.src.rpm on Mageia Cauldron.
[21:57:52] <gcristian> How can I use watch expressions to stop at breakpoint when a variable = x ?
[21:59:08] <The_8472> gcristian, you use conditional breakpoints for that. not watch expressions
[21:59:20] <gcristian> oh ok, thanks The_8472
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[21:59:55] <abhatnag> The_8472: using this guide: http://maketecheasier.com/proc-filesystem-examine-linux-inner-working/2010/08/19; I think that /proc/PID would be relevant to me? But no such file exists in my proc. I'm on Fedora 15...does that sound right?
[22:00:05] <perlsyntax> Does eclipse for java how a profile and how you use it?
[22:00:08] <The_8472> rindolf... i'm not familiar with that one. but my guess would be that it's missing update sites for some reason. you might want to try with an official eclipse bundle instead, as actualy suggested by the guide you linked
[22:00:15] <perlsyntax> have
[22:00:23] <heinz> The_8472: at least in gdb speak that's a "watchpoint"
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[22:00:30] <The_8472> abhatnag, it's a directory. one for each pid.
[22:00:32] <rindolf> The_8472: OK.
[22:00:40] <abhatnag> The_8472: ah...
[22:00:43] <The_8472> heinz, we're in #eclipse here
[22:00:57] <heinz> looks like it
[22:01:10] <perlsyntax> :)
[22:01:19] <The_8472> perlsyntax, can you rephrase that in english?
[22:01:45] <perlsyntax> Anyone know how to use the profile in eclipse.
[22:02:02] <The_8472> what do you mean by "the profile"
[22:02:11] <perlsyntax> i said.How do i use the prfile in eclipse 3.7.
[22:02:38] <rindolf> The_8472: OK, I'll try and if it works there, I'll file a bug on Mageia.
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[22:02:56] <lisak> what is the reason between these 2 breakpoints  ? http://imm.io/6UFC
[22:02:58] <perlsyntax> there a profile tool in eclipse and i just wantt o know how to get it to work.:D
[22:03:00] <lisak> *difference
[22:03:12] <The_8472> perlsyntax, ah... you mean a "profiler"
[22:03:18] <perlsyntax> yes
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[22:03:56] <perlsyntax> The_842 is that just for java?
[22:04:16] <The_8472> you mean TPTP?
[22:04:31] <perlsyntax> i think it for java.
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[22:04:44] <lisak> anybody ? can't find it anywhere
[22:04:48] <perlsyntax> if i am right.
[22:05:11] <perlsyntax> I useing the eclipse 3.7
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[22:05:43] <perlsyntax> Any idea.
[22:05:45] <The_8472> perlsyntax, well... i don't know which profiler you're referring to. if you mean TPTP, then yes... it's for java.
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[22:06:04] <ron> lisak: one has a checkmark on it, the other one doesn't.
[22:06:14] <perlsyntax> I just want to know how to i get the TPTP to work?
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[22:06:59] <lisak> http://stackoverflow.com/q/1799362/306488
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[22:07:52] <perlsyntax> The_8472,I just want to know how to get it to work that all.:)
[22:08:21] <TruPilot> Yikes. Indigo crashes on me when I am just editing a Jira issue. Second time it's happened so far. Suggestions?
[22:08:44] <The_8472> TruPilot, take a look at the crash log.
[22:08:49] <TruPilot> This never happened before in Helios, Helios SR1 or Helios SR2
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[22:22:37] <TruPilot> The_8472: No indication on why the crash happened. It shows successful startup and recovery with the last message...
[22:22:37] <TruPilot> !MESSAGE The workspace exited with unsaved changes in the previous session; refreshing workspace to recover changes.
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[22:23:27] <danomite> any one around with experience using the javascript formatter? I'm trying to use it to make some json look pretty but not having any luck
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[22:33:21] <rindolf> The_8472: it works fine with the Eclipse build from http://www.eclipse.org/ .
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