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the eclipse android graphical layout to create xml with properties split on separate lines? [06:16:02] <thinkt4nk> I set the pref in XML editor, but that didn't have any effect [06:16:16] <thinkt4nk> at least, not with the xml that is created by the graphical layout editor [06:16:50] <Gr72> changing the xml editor didn't probably affect java b/c it's seperate [06:17:15] <thinkt4nk> I just answered my own question, sort of [06:17:20] <thinkt4nk> it's set in the android editor [06:17:27] <Gr72> what do you mean by properties on a seperate line? [06:18:10] <thinkt4nk> ... [06:18:41] <thinkt4nk> anyway, for anyone who cares, it's the setting in the android editor, "Automatically format the XML edited by the visual layout editor" [06:19:15] <Gr72> ok [06:44:08] *** Dessimat0r has quit IRC [06:47:51] *** SirScott has quit IRC [06:51:51] *** danhello has joined #eclipse [07:02:22] *** thinkt4nk has quit IRC [07:11:43] *** Scorpion has joined #eclipse [07:13:41] *** Scorpion has quit IRC [07:36:37] *** kthomas_vh has joined #eclipse [07:40:54] *** aminpy has joined #eclipse [07:56:11] *** heX` has joined #eclipse [07:56:13] *** heX` has quit IRC [07:56:13] *** heX` has joined #eclipse [07:58:54] *** mluser-home has quit IRC [08:00:42] *** heX` has quit IRC [08:11:34] *** tewecske has joined #eclipse [08:20:28] *** tilerendering has quit IRC [08:39:26] *** LinGmnZ has joined #eclipse [08:41:34] *** LongBeach has joined #eclipse [08:59:26] *** trustedsage has quit IRC [09:04:13] *** ron has joined #eclipse [09:07:58] *** semeion has quit IRC [09:13:38] *** tilerendering has joined #eclipse [09:26:00] *** cbeust_ has quit IRC [09:26:44] *** LinGmnZ has quit IRC [09:30:04] *** semeion has joined #eclipse [09:34:38] *** moraes has joined #eclipse [09:38:41] *** semeion has joined #eclipse [09:39:20] *** semeion has quit IRC [09:40:33] *** DoctorPepper has quit IRC [09:44:22] *** viks has joined #eclipse [09:45:23] <viks> hi , i am using eclipse but whenever i type something help is not showing to me ...like if i type something ...description shud come on right side on box [09:45:27] <viks> how to enable it [09:45:32] <viks> i am using ubuntu [09:54:06] *** Gr72 has quit IRC [09:54:28] *** PhilipW has quit IRC [09:56:36] <ron> not sure what you mean [09:57:25] *** jmvanel has joined #eclipse [10:02:22] *** ron has quit IRC [10:13:34] *** jmvanel has quit IRC [10:16:42] *** Kamaran has joined #eclipse [10:22:51] *** HardDisk_WP has quit IRC [10:24:38] *** HardDisk_WP has joined #eclipse [10:24:38] *** HardDisk_WP has joined #eclipse [10:26:31] *** jmvanel has joined #eclipse [10:27:10] *** shal3r has joined #eclipse [10:36:56] *** paissad has quit IRC [10:38:39] *** elbeardmorez has joined #eclipse [10:38:53] *** paissad has joined #eclipse [10:50:06] *** moraes has quit IRC [11:03:43] *** paissad has quit IRC [11:04:28] *** paissad has joined #eclipse [11:06:51] *** heinz has joined #eclipse [11:07:35] *** baedert has joined #eclipse [11:10:41] *** Hartimer has joined #eclipse [11:12:33] *** pulse00 has joined #eclipse [11:12:54] <Hartimer> morning [11:13:42] <Hartimer> i'm still googling but i'm having difficulties finding an up to date plugin tutorial. does anyone have a link in hand that wants to share? [11:20:16] *** rkrul has joined #eclipse [11:25:46] *** soulreaper has joined #eclipse [11:28:51] *** danhello has quit IRC [11:35:14] *** rcjsuen has joined #eclipse [11:36:49] *** danhello has joined #eclipse [11:42:23] *** dirk_77_ has joined #eclipse [11:44:14] *** viks has quit IRC [11:50:20] *** soa2ii has joined #eclipse [11:52:35] <soa2ii> Hi. I come from netbenas and now I would like to use eclipse. I'm used to a really organized view in my java ee maven application. In Netbenas the jsp pages are just shown under web/ in eclipse they are at the default file path src/main/webapp. Any ideas how you could get better integration of maven struts2 application? I just installed WTP but this did not do anything either. [11:55:50] *** semeion has joined #eclipse [11:56:00] *** psst has joined #eclipse [11:58:49] *** a0lex has joined #eclipse [12:07:14] *** semeion has quit IRC [12:08:19] *** rkrul has quit IRC [12:10:57] <The_8472> soa2ii, you can just change the source paths of your project if you want [12:11:51] <soa2ii> The_8472: How would you do that? [12:11:59] <The_8472> in the project properties [12:14:04] <soa2ii> The_8472: Hm. I think the jsp filder is nmo source path [12:14:14] <soa2ii> I get to see the build folder too ? [12:18:22] *** rkrul has joined #eclipse [12:19:18] <soa2ii> Maybe it's because it's a maven project and eclipse seems not to get that ? [12:20:47] *** ShooterMG has joined #eclipse [12:21:32] *** rcjsuen__ has joined #eclipse [12:24:46] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC [12:28:27] *** soee has joined #eclipse [12:30:14] <The_8472> soa2ii, mhh. there is a plugin to add maven support. but i haven't used it myself [12:31:06] <soa2ii> The_8472: Yeah ? it seems you want a dynamic web project with maven support ? [12:31:23] <soa2ii> But this kinda hurts right now ? I'll see if I find a better solution. [12:43:11] *** ShooterMG has quit IRC [12:43:54] *** Multiply has joined #eclipse [12:47:23] <soa2ii> Hm. Could it be that the maven plugin shipped with 3.7 is not as goog as the one you'd get from the marketplace? I cannot install this though because there's already a maven plugin shipped :/ [12:50:09] *** rkrul has quit IRC [12:51:10] *** ShooterMG has joined #eclipse [13:01:51] *** rkrul has joined #eclipse [13:15:26] <soa2ii> Maven support in eclipse seems to be a lot worse than in netbeans or I'm just too stupid to use it properly. [13:16:02] <alankila> I still studiously avoid maven. Perhaps it is irrational on my part. [13:16:12] <soa2ii> I want to develop a Struts2 webapp with maven ? my project should look like "sources", "tests", "webapp" [13:16:28] <soa2ii> alankila: Why? just for the dependency management it's worth it. [13:16:46] <alankila> I don't think you are supposed to use libraries whose dependencies aren't manageable by hand. [13:17:25] <alankila> I like, for instance, wicket: all it depends on is slf4j. [13:17:36] <soa2ii> But now I installed 3.7 and cannot install m2e from the repo because there's already maven shipped with 3.7 ? I got no idea wich version or how to manage it. [13:18:11] <soa2ii> wtp support from the m2eextra won't install either because of missing dependencies ? [13:18:18] <soa2ii> Missing requirement: Maven Integration for WTP (Optional) 0.12.0.20110421-1500 (org.maven.ide.eclipse.wtp.feature.feature.group 0.12.0.20110421-1500) requires 'org.maven.ide.eclipse.feature.feature.group [0.10.0,1.0.0)' but it could not be found [13:19:17] <FauxFaux> Your argument for the plugin manager being terrible (it is, but you're still wrong), is that a plugin lists dependencies and they're unsatisfiable so it won't let you install the plugin? [13:19:53] <soa2ii> FauxFaux: No. [13:20:19] <soa2ii> I just checked the market. Maybe it's because m2e is not yet for 3.7. I don't know. [13:20:35] <soa2ii> But I think plugin installation should be more straight forward. [13:21:08] <soa2ii> I cannot install m2e from the market because there is already some maven stuff shipped with 3.7 but I got no idea either where to manage shipped plugins ? [13:21:30] <FauxFaux> Help -> about -> installation details. [13:21:44] <FauxFaux> Ctrl+3 installation information [13:21:46] <soa2ii> FauxFaux: thanks [13:22:03] [13:22:49] *** prasanna has joined #eclipse [13:23:51] *** _nor has joined #eclipse [13:24:11] <prasanna> hello people. so last night, eclipse crashed while I was adding Egit Update Site to Update SItes list, and now the whole update sites list in empty. Which I will have to manually add all update sites of all plugins, unless there is already a backup somewhere [13:24:28] <prasanna> any idea? 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(project explorer) [13:56:00] *** rossand has joined #eclipse [13:57:16] *** danhello has quit IRC [14:01:23] *** codeon has joined #eclipse [14:05:14] <ron> gioele: try doing this [14:05:31] <ron> add a new folder under src/main and call it resources [14:06:22] <ron> right click on the new folder->build path->use as source folder [14:06:36] <ron> move your yaml file there and then try again. [14:06:40] *** codeon has quit IRC [14:09:52] <gioele> ron: thank you. For the records, I also had to add a similarly named package under `resources/` [14:10:36] <ron> gioele: glad it worked out. [14:11:17] *** codeon has joined #eclipse [14:12:08] *** heX` has joined #eclipse [14:12:08] *** heX` has joined #eclipse [14:13:31] *** aminpy has quit IRC [14:13:34] <milleja46> hi [14:13:54] <milleja46> should i be worried if eclipse throws a error with PyQt4 imports? [14:17:06] *** milleja46 has quit IRC [14:17:08] *** kgilmer has quit IRC [14:25:53] *** conan has quit IRC [14:26:37] *** nikro has joined #eclipse [14:26:57] <nikro> Hey guys, is there a way to highlight the scope you're working in ? [14:27:10] <ron> 'scope'? [14:27:38] <nikro> brackets ? )) block.. [14:29:04] <ron> not familiar with anything, sorry. [14:29:56] *** tvo has joined #eclipse [14:30:21] <nikro> npp has smth similar, when you're in the declaration of a function, there's a thin dotted vertical line that indicates where you are.. damn I can't explain) [14:31:38] <ron> well, eclipse marks the method you're at. [14:31:39] <The_8472> the outline view shows you which function you're in [14:31:59] <The_8472> and yeah, the bar left of the line numbers [14:33:57] <nikro> hm, mine doesn't( [14:34:21] *** milleja46 has joined #eclipse [14:34:40] <ron> which language? [14:35:47] <milleja46> hi [14:36:35] <nikro> ron: JavaScript, jQuery, lots of functions are within $(document).ready(function(){ //myfunctions }); [14:36:53] <ron> well, it may not work that way in the JS editor. [14:38:13] <milleja46> Why is it that i've got PyQt added into the pydev stuff in eclipse yet it acts like pyqt is not known? [14:38:35] *** contingo has joined #eclipse [14:39:36] *** moraes has joined #eclipse [14:42:08] <milleja46> anyone have any clue? [14:43:03] *** codeon_ has joined #eclipse [14:43:03] *** purestrain has joined #eclipse [14:44:51] *** codeon has quit IRC [14:46:15] *** LinGmnZ has joined #eclipse [14:49:22] <milleja46> it even gives this error Description Resource Path Location Type [14:49:22] <milleja46> Encountered "import" at line 5, column 14. Was expecting one of: <NEWLINE> ... ";" ... "," ... "." ... "as" ... ";" ... m46sgoffice.pyw /M46SGofficesuite line 4 Problem <-that's on a line that has "import PyQt4 [14:50:17] <milleja46> and it shouldn't be expecting any of that.... 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It works fine but I would like to install a version control tool. Is it possibile? Actually switching perspectin on Team syncro.. it shows only CVS can I install EGitT? [17:07:06] <ron> fossconn: uninstall jprofiler? [17:07:40] *** nikro has quit IRC [17:07:43] <ron> lonejack: you can install multiple scm adapters [17:08:44] <The_8472> fossconn, it most likely is an eclipse plugin. uninstall it. [17:08:57] <fossconn> I think its something extra [17:08:59] <fossconn> like a menu [17:09:18] <fossconn> I removed jprofiler successfully already, but the menu is still there [17:09:47] <ron> fossconn: then it's a plugin within eclipse. try looking at the plugin list and see if something pops out. [17:09:53] *** conan has joined #eclipse [17:10:09] <lonejack> ron, on this page http://www.eclipse.org/egit/download/ are shown rep regarding egit. Do I only need to put the repo on my eclipse pref/Install/Available sw? [17:10:27] <ron> lonejack: which version of eclipse do you use? [17:11:26] <lonejack> Helios [17:11:32] <ron> then yeah. [17:11:42] <The_8472> indigo has it right in the repository [17:11:50] <lonejack> ron, thx [17:12:03] <The_8472> why is it called indigo anyway? is that some asteroid? [17:12:05] <ron> right, but in helios you need to add it manually. [17:12:24] <ron> it's a color :) [17:12:38] <The_8472> what happend to the astronomical object theme? [17:15:04] *** rcjsuen_ has joined #eclipse [17:15:18] <ron> you can ask rcjsuen [17:15:28] * The_8472 asks rcjsuen [17:17:32] <ron> ooh. Juno is next. [17:18:34] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC [17:18:44] <The_8472> we killed him :( [17:19:07] <The_8472> and juno is fine, that's an asteroid [17:19:47] *** timotei has joined #eclipse [17:19:49] <timotei> hi! Does anyone know how to make javadoc see the eclipse classes? I currently have the following command line + errors: http://pastebin.com/ZjLGULDC [17:20:15] *** rendar has joined #eclipse [17:22:21] <rendar> unexpectdly eclipse shows me strange charachters in the code, points in blank lines, and a paragraph character at every end of line, how i can disable this mess?! [17:22:44] <The_8472> disable "show whitespace characters" [17:23:00] <rendar> The_8472: where is it? sorry but this is the first time i use eclipse.. :( [17:23:15] *** detrix42 has joined #eclipse [17:23:18] <rendar> ok, found it, thanks [17:23:22] *** detrix42 has left #eclipse [17:24:06] <The_8472> should be obvious, most word processors have the same feature [17:26:19] <ron> The_8472: did you use a different nick prior to this one? [17:26:30] <The_8472> no [17:26:53] <ron> ok. [17:28:09] <ron> oh. it's alphabetical. [17:28:46] *** rossand has joined #eclipse [17:31:58] <ron> The_8472: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=306864#c32 [17:32:09] <timotei> isn't eclipse svn available anymore ?:( [17:32:19] <timotei> I need to set the classpath to my javadoc [17:32:22] <timotei> http://wiki.eclipse.org/SVN_Howto [17:32:30] <timotei> according to that I should be able toa ccess svn from: [17:32:37] <timotei> http://dev.eclipse.org/svnroot [17:32:38] <timotei> :( [17:37:23] *** ketanpkr has joined #eclipse [17:40:31] *** ketanpkr has left #eclipse [17:41:05] *** SimonP86 has quit IRC [17:55:14] *** contingo has joined #eclipse [17:57:06] *** vwegert has joined #eclipse [17:57:23] *** rossand has quit IRC [17:58:41] *** RenatoSilva has joined #eclipse [18:01:06] *** RenatoSilva has left #eclipse [18:01:16] <timotei> are the jars update-able through eclipse install updates available somewhere? [18:01:20] <timotei> as direct links? :) [18:05:10] *** AndroidLoverInSF has quit IRC [18:05:50] *** deuterium has joined #eclipse [18:10:19] *** conan has quit IRC [18:10:49] *** lonejack has quit IRC [18:12:06] *** cbeust_ has joined #eclipse [18:13:02] *** corni has joined #eclipse [18:13:27] <corni> is there a cdt-specific channel? [18:13:33] <ron> no [18:14:02] <ron> but this isn't very cdt oriented, so if you don't get a reply, you may want to use the ~forums [18:14:02] <Arbalest> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/ [18:14:19] <corni> okay [18:17:15] <corni> if there's anyone here, I'm using indigo with cdt 8.0. I've got my own build system with one precompiled header. That is included by the build system in every file, instead of manual #includes. Thus CDT has the Properties/C++ general/Paths and Symbols/Include Files tab. There one can list exactly these files. My problem is just that there in the language list is just the option "GNU C" but I'd need "GNU C++" - can anyone help or vene just confi [18:17:15] <corni> rm this? [18:24:33] *** rpk has joined #eclipse [18:25:00] <rpk> Hello, I just installed eclipse indigo, is there any reason for me to keep my old Helios install around? [18:25:34] *** Reflex` has quit IRC [18:25:36] *** mluser-home has joined #eclipse [18:26:23] *** cgb has quit IRC [18:26:56] <ron> rpk: I'd keep it for a while to make sure everything you're used to works properly. [18:27:33] <rpk> ok, but AFAIK it doesn't store anything in there that I might want, right? So as long as all of my plugins work I can just delete it whenever? [18:27:48] <ron> yup. [18:28:53] <rpk> ok, and I'm using jdk 1.7.0, I'm aware that it won't be officially supported until Sept (crazy since GA is in July), should I expect to see a lot of problems or will things work pretty well? [18:29:22] <ron> you should expect hell and then some. [18:29:37] <rpk> oh :( [18:30:11] <The_8472> at least installing updates is somewhat broken with jdk7, had that problem myself [18:30:13] *** M_Kay has joined #eclipse [18:30:20] <The_8472> the rest seems to work fine as far as i can tell [18:30:59] <ron> well, it doesn't support the java7 syntax. [18:31:09] <rpk> i've been running helios under 1.7.0 recently, but I actually haven't had to install any plugins in a while [18:31:28] <rpk> ron: yeah, I figured that much, does that mean the incremental compiler will choke on those java files? [18:31:46] <ron> . [18:32:56] *** fossconn has left #eclipse [18:33:02] <The_8472> ecj output works fine under jdk7, i think. [18:33:19] <rpk> I don't understand why they're not going to support it on release, I mean, 1.7 has features developers have been waiting for for years now [18:33:28] <ron> java7 should be able to run eclipse. you won't be able to write java7 code with it though. [18:33:46] *** briandealwis has quit IRC [18:34:05] <The_8472> rpk, it's not final yet and stuff didn't make it in time for the indigo release window [18:34:12] <The_8472> so it'll come with 3.7.1 [18:34:14] <ron> well, the eclipse foundation has a fairly strict release policy, and they actually hold up to it (which is impressive). [18:34:15] *** semeion has quit IRC [18:34:20] *** jmotta has joined #eclipse [18:34:37] <rpk> Yeah, but why not offer an update site where I can pull a working version of eclipse, even if not supported [18:34:56] <rpk> any kind of rigid update cycle that fails to accomodate changes mid cycle is obviously flawed [18:35:01] *** timotei has left #eclipse [18:35:13] *** semeion has joined #eclipse [18:35:20] <ron> you can download nightlies if you really want [18:35:21] <rpk> also, its not like the GA date hasn't been pretty obvious for months now. :/ oh well [18:35:47] <ron> but tbh, 2-3 months wait isn't such a big deal considering how long it took for j7 to be released after j6. [18:36:16] <The_8472> yeah, and like ron said... you can use nightlies/integration builds [18:37:04] <rpk> yeah, I guess I will [18:37:11] *** jerboaa has quit IRC [18:37:13] <ron> I wouldn't want to use j7 right away anyways. those few months are quite good to get rid of the initial bugs that would be found by mass migration of early adapters. [18:37:38] <ron> granted, it has a few nice additions, but I can hold off for a few more months. [18:38:06] <The_8472> i'm using it for the performance gains [18:38:17] *** FunnyLookinHat has quit IRC [18:38:23] <rpk> The_8472: thats why I have the latest weekly 1.7 installed now [18:38:23] *** jerboaa has joined #eclipse [18:38:26] <rpk> for the most part [18:38:42] <rpk> Anyways, it'll finally be nice to start catching up to C# [18:38:44] *** soee has quit IRC [18:39:00] <ron> I can wait with the performance gains. then again, I'm currently working on a non-production system yet, so I can easily afford the wait. [18:39:25] <rpk> ron: I would think you'd want the new features pretty bad then [18:39:45] <rpk> you'd have a lot more freedom to take advantage of them [18:40:21] <ron> I could always add them later. don't see the rush. [18:40:54] <ron> still need to read on the enhancements really. [18:41:24] <ron> gotta take the dog for a walk. bbiab. 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[19:31:10] *** codeon has joined #eclipse [19:31:11] <inv1275> I have read the Eclipse License but, does it affect the code I program with Eclipse? [19:32:07] *** codeon has quit IRC [19:32:23] *** codeon has joined #eclipse [19:32:38] <inv1275> In the license FAQ and in the Eclipse IRC FAQ do not say anything about this [19:33:36] *** codeon has quit IRC [19:39:49] *** codeon has joined #eclipse [19:40:33] *** codeon has quit IRC [19:40:46] *** inv1275 has quit IRC [19:41:30] *** codeon has joined #eclipse [19:42:37] *** soc42 has joined #eclipse [19:42:46] *** aksn_ has joined #eclipse [19:44:05] *** pulse00 has quit IRC [19:44:46] *** HelloWorld3211 has joined #eclipse [19:44:57] *** aksn has quit IRC [19:49:18] *** airduster has joined #eclipse [19:49:29] *** rkrul has joined #eclipse [20:00:14] *** dirk_77_ has quit IRC [20:01:55] <ron> intellilogic: [20:02:01] <ron> oops, sorry :) [20:03:15] *** M_Kay has joined #eclipse [20:13:09] *** dirk_77_ has joined #eclipse [20:16:42] *** briandealwis has quit IRC [20:18:19] *** Gr72 has joined #eclipse [20:27:42] *** purestrain has quit IRC [20:30:36] *** a0sle has quit IRC [20:36:28] *** a0sle has joined #eclipse [20:36:28] *** a0sle has joined #eclipse [20:44:23] *** a0sle has quit IRC [20:48:03] *** a0sle has joined #eclipse [20:49:49] *** kinunt has joined #eclipse [20:49:55] <kinunt> hello [20:50:54] <kinunt> Can "Predefined completions" be used with Python 2.6? [20:52:36] *** kinunt has left #eclipse [20:52:41] *** kinunt has joined #eclipse [20:52:43] <kinunt> hi all [20:52:54] <kinunt> Can "Predefined completions" be used with Python 2.6? [20:55:27] *** Hartimer has quit IRC [20:59:54] *** soulreaper has joined #eclipse [21:07:01] *** Azelphur has quit IRC [21:09:45] *** olehv has joined #eclipse [21:10:48] <olehv> Got a problem with the javascript validation. it fails upon each build and refuses to be turned off (validation continues despite being deactivated, both for project specific settings and workspace settings) [21:11:10] *** Azelphur has joined #eclipse [21:11:48] *** gioele has quit IRC [21:12:15] *** milleja46 has joined #eclipse [21:14:09] <milleja46> Why when i import things from PyQt4 would eclipse expect a newline or something else? [21:14:50] <milleja46> i've even followed several guides to add pyqt in so eclipse would recognize it, and it still gives the same error... [21:16:18] <olehv> when i say fails, i mean it throws a nullpointerexception [21:17:53] <milleja46> olehv: well it doesn't seem like it gets that i'm trying to get that gui stuff for python so there shouldn't be a newline or anything else besides my import info that i need on the line [21:19:42] <olehv> ah, sorry was referring to my own problem with javascript validation failures in eclipse helios :P [21:19:48] <milleja46> oh sorry [21:19:53] <olehv> hehe, np. [21:20:04] * milleja46 feels like screaming at eclipse.... [21:21:07] <FauxFaux> I know nothing about python, pyqt or pyeclipse, but normally when something tells you you have a keyword where you shouldn't have a keyword, it's because you messed up previous lines in some way. [21:21:21] <FauxFaux> s/know/care/ [21:21:47] <ron> you care nothing? [21:21:56] <FauxFaux> Close enough. [21:22:02] <milleja46> well it shouldn't be wrong because i need that there in order to code for pyqt4 [21:22:54] <FauxFaux> You're demonstrating an amazing inability to diagnose problems. Do other imports work? Does it work if you move it to the top of the file (no, not below that line, the actual top)? [21:24:55] <milleja46> nvm, i accidentally capitalized the f in From so python/eclipse didn't recognize it -_- [21:26:13] * ron mocks milleja46 [21:26:20] <FauxFaux> Thanks, ron. Thon. [21:26:34] <ron> Thon? [21:27:17] <milleja46> ron: sometimes i amaze myself by the simple mistakes i make that it causes alot of confusion to me when i could've fixed it very simply [21:27:38] <ron> milleja46: and you've been at it for hours. and hours. and... hours. [21:28:36] <milleja46> ron: not really had to go do something but was trying to figure out why it would've been expecting something on that line i should've known that From was wrong all along [21:30:38] <FauxFaux> ron: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jtU9BbReQk [21:31:19] <FauxFaux> milleja46: That's caused by using something immature and unsafe like Python, instead of using Java, just so you know. [21:32:01] <ron> FauxFaux: that's... wow. [21:32:21] <FauxFaux> From Look Around You, typical britfag humour, well worth watching. :p [21:32:35] <FauxFaux> Maths one first. [21:32:43] <ron> it's funny how you call python immature considering it's older than java. [21:32:57] <milleja46> FauxFaux: that isn't true it's because i forgot that python just like linux is case sensitive it expects things to be typed right, and i'm still a bit new to writing stuff like this and should've noticed from didn't change colors like a keyword and it should've [21:33:01] <FauxFaux> Yet it's still immature. [21:33:06] <ron> :) [21:33:15] <ron> I'm older than you and I'm still immature ;) [21:33:38] <FauxFaux> milleja46: In Java, you get 'Syntax error on token "Import", import expected'. [21:33:41] <milleja46> FauxFaux: it's not still immature, it's very mature, just somewhat precise on details such as that [21:34:07] <FauxFaux> I strongly disagree with you, and there's nothing you can do about it. \o/ [21:34:18] <alankila> something like java is probably better than python in sense that there's far more tool help available for static languages [21:34:31] <milleja46> well that should be a pydev error not python, the pydev stuff may not be advanced enough to tell you that you typed a keyword wrong [21:34:36] <alankila> so eclipse can do something more useful in general [21:34:41] <milleja46> alankila: that's is false in every way [21:34:56] <alankila> no it's not. It's widely recognized fact that dynamic languages are a bitch for IDEs [21:35:03] <FauxFaux> And programmers. [21:35:22] <ron> I wonder if I should disable eclipse's warnings about the serialid stuff. [21:35:44] <alankila> some programmers are better at them than others. I wrote dynamic languages for 10 years, I'm not trying my hand in static languages. I find myself liking static more, even if I admit that it seems like I have to twink twice as hard per line of code I write [21:35:47] * milleja46 wonders why people are so blind to a language that's superior than java, java is a pain in the rear [21:35:49] <alankila> not=now [21:36:08] <alankila> and twink=think. I am too tired to write properly it seems. [21:36:09] *** soc42 has quit IRC [21:36:25] <milleja46> (and think properly it seems as well) [21:36:25] *** pulse00 has joined #eclipse [21:37:06] <alankila> milleja46: look, I'm not insulting you personally, so can you give me the same courtesy? [21:37:35] <ron> I love language religious wars. [21:37:38] <FauxFaux> ron: You should. [21:38:02] <ron> FauxFaux: love wars or disable the warning? ;) [21:38:03] <milleja46> alankila: well it seems that way when you insult a language that is easier to learn and just seems alot better to learn java.....c based languages seem to always get me that's why i went to python [21:38:15] <FauxFaux> ron: The warning. I've ignored both of the other people in the channel. :p [21:38:22] <alankila> milleja46: but certainly you can recognize that this is not something that is true for everybody? [21:38:26] * ron laughs [21:38:30] <FauxFaux> AS THEY'RE BOTH WRONG. [21:38:45] * milleja46 steps away to go back to learning PyQt [21:38:55] <ron> I don't really follow them. just like seeing the bantering. [21:39:01] <alankila> I got foodtime anyway. [21:39:07] <ron> I wonder if I used that word correctly. [21:39:40] <milleja46> banter* [21:39:55] <milleja46> i'm not sure bantering is a word... [21:39:56] <FauxFaux> Seeing the banter / watching the bantering? [21:40:27] <ron> does that make sense? [21:41:38] <milleja46> not really....hmm i know the right word but it seems to of fled my brain for the moment.... [21:42:02] <ron> well, I was asking the British person. [21:43:49] <ron> FauxFaux: care to enlighten me? [21:44:49] <FauxFaux> I was suggesting that either of my statements sounded right to me. [21:45:10] <ron> oh. I see. [21:45:21] *** Gr72 has quit IRC [21:45:37] <ron> and as for the meaning of banter? [21:45:39] <ron> :) [21:45:46] <FauxFaux> Yeah. [21:46:13] <ron> yay \o/ [21:46:30] *** semeion has quit IRC [21:46:30] <ron> me speak good english [21:46:32] <ron> :p [21:48:04] <milleja46> XD [21:51:40] <baedert> I have a perspective and multiple Wizards, one of them is a "new file wizard". When I'm right-clicking on a folder in the project view in my perspective, I can't see the file wizard there, I have to click "Other..." and then select my wizard accordingly. Any ideas how to show it directly when right-clicking? [21:52:03] *** rossand has quit IRC [21:55:33] *** codeon has quit IRC [21:55:50] <ron> baedert: afaik, you can't modify it for a view. it'll change according to the type of item that's highlighted in a given view. [21:57:24] *** vwegert has quit IRC [22:00:57] <paulweb515_> baedert: you add it to the new wizard shortcuts for that perspective [22:03:00] <baedert> paulweb515: yeah, did that already [22:03:04] *** rkrul has quit IRC [22:04:15] <paulweb515_> baedert: if you're working in an existing perspective, you might have to reset the perspective [22:04:46] <baedert> ron: but when I'm in my perspective and right click on a folder, click on new, there are some C [22:04:55] <baedert> *C++ project items from the CDT [22:05:50] <ron> baedert: listen to paulweb515_. he knows better than me. [22:06:24] <baedert> I want a New->MyWizard item in my perspective when right-clicking on a folder, I think JDT/CDT have the same when changing perspectives [22:11:53] *** dmiles_afk has quit IRC [22:12:15] *** moradan has joined #eclipse [22:13:00] *** dmiles_afk has joined #eclipse [22:13:36] <moradan> hello, developing eclipse plugin where is the standard place to put unit tests? (I'm going to test only algorithms without dependencies on any eclipse classes, if this does matter). [22:16:22] *** corni has quit IRC [22:18:20] *** M_Kay has quit IRC [22:18:43] *** M_Kay has joined #eclipse [22:19:30] *** M_Kay has quit IRC [22:19:41] <moradan> Ok, I think this problem is not specific to developing eclipse plugin. I just used only maven projects before and not familiar with eclipse projects... [22:19:51] <paulweb515_> moradan: In our case we write plugin tests, so they're in a sep project [22:22:10] <moradan> paulweb515_, it is not possible to place unit tests in the same project in other folder and make them not included in the build of that project? This is how it is done with maven, but if not separate project for tests is fine. In my case it will definitely not lead to the "too many projects" situation. [22:22:26] *** ktlr has joined #eclipse [22:24:45] *** Kud has joined #eclipse [22:25:35] *** olehv has quit IRC [22:32:01] *** aminpy has quit IRC [22:32:37] <paulweb515_> moradan: depends on the kind of tests ... if you're talking just java, that's fine (the system supports multiple source folders per project) [22:33:11] <paulweb515_> moradan: if you have to test code in a running eclipse (as our eclipse plugins) then it must be in a separate bundle/plugin with a different ID [22:33:58] *** olehv has joined #eclipse [22:40:16] <moradan> thanks. I have tried to add another source folder with simple unit test. It was not included to the "source..." property in the build.properties, but junit was added as the required bundle in manifest. Is this normal? [22:40:51] *** rkrul has joined #eclipse [22:41:57] <moradan> resolved this problem [22:42:03] <moradan> thanks for your help [22:47:26] *** rkrul has quit IRC [22:49:29] *** rcjsuen has joined #eclipse [22:50:21] *** rcjsuen__ has quit IRC [23:00:05] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC [23:05:08] *** tewecske has quit IRC [23:06:24] *** mk has joined #eclipse [23:06:38] <mk> is there a way to permanently hide the toolbar? [23:07:26] *** Multiply has quit IRC [23:07:42] *** deuterium has quit IRC [23:09:44] *** fisix has joined #eclipse [23:15:46] *** moradan has quit IRC [23:18:28] *** soee has quit IRC [23:27:08] *** tvo has quit IRC [23:27:13] <paulweb515_> mk: if you right-click on an empty space in the toolbar, isn't there a toggle toolbar or hide toolbar menu item? [23:30:49] *** zoldar has joined #eclipse [23:32:33] <mk> there is, but the toolbar returns on each startup [23:33:53] <mk> since there's also a "lock the toolbars" (plural) setting, I was hoping I could just remove the toolbar entirely, but no luck so far (empty toolbar, but with a perspective chooser on the right) [23:35:21] <zoldar> Hello. I'm trying to install maven integration from sonatype on top of fresh indigo install. After processing dependencies, a following problem appears: http://dpaste.com/559080/ . Has anybody had problem with it? Is there any known way around it? [23:37:48] <ron> zoldar: indigo comes with the new m2e 1.0 installed. if you want to install the older version, you need to first uninstall version 1. [23:39:04] <zoldar> ron, ah.. why doesn't it show up as Installed in marketplace ? [23:39:20] *** jerboaa has quit IRC [23:39:51] <ron> zoldar: not sure. you should see it in the installed plugin list though. [23:40:29] <zoldar> but subclipse is still separate ? [23:41:14] <ron> subclipse is not part of the eclipse foundation, so yes. [23:41:31] <ron> subversive may come with indigo, but I'm not sure. [23:42:20] *** SirScott has quit IRC [23:42:24] <zoldar> ok, thank you [23:43:02] *** SirScott has joined #eclipse [23:54:05] *** lolmatic has quit IRC [23:58:54] *** contingo has quit IRC