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[00:16:43] <fossconn> hello I work on eclipse on windows
[00:16:49] <fossconn> and I use svn on linux to copy my files
[00:17:02] <fossconn> but windows has dos format files, can the default be linux?
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[01:59:16] <richbnz> Hi. Can anyone assist with UML2 modelling tools supporting "pathmap" protocol? I've tried Eclipse 3.5 and 3.6 without success. Am I missing a particular plugin perhaps?
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[03:15:43] <baedert> I'd like to compile the "current" project, where "current project" is the project where the currently edited file belongs to(in an IWorkbenchWindowActionDelegate.). I can get the currently active editor via window.getActivePage().getActiveEditor(), but 1) how can I get the currently edited file and 2)how can I check to what project it belongs?
[03:19:29] <nitind> baedert: Check the editor's IEditorInput--it could be an IFileEditorInput or support getting an IFile as an adapter.
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[03:33:02] <baedert> nitind: ah, getAdapter(IFile.class) works, thanks
[03:33:11] <navysealltblue> What time, GMT, is Indigo being released to the public?
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[03:47:15] <rcjsuen> navysealltblue: think maybe 1230 or 1330?
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[03:49:33] <navysealltblue> rcjsuen: thanks ^_^  I was looking at the google calendar for releases and the calendar said all times were listed in my timezone, but it just said "all day event," so I figured I'd see if anyone could confirm a time.   I can't wait ^_^
[03:49:52] <rcjsuen> you could download it now via bittorrent if you want
[03:53:04] <navysealltblue> rcjsuen: really? what's the purpose of having a release time, if its up on bittorrent before that XD   However the eclipse 3.7 market repos won't be functional at this time (for eclipse hosted packages), would they?
[03:53:21] <rcjsuen> No idea.
[03:53:57] <navysealltblue> :P alright, thanks for the info rcjsuen.
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[04:03:15] <d_a_carver> torrents are really slow for some of the repos right now. not enough seeds.
[04:03:51] <nitind> d_a_carver: Any one you'd like to see seeded?
[04:04:27] <d_a_carver> nitind, linux-tools and cdt come to mind.  I'm just trying to finish downloads so I can help those out tomorrow.
[04:04:37] <d_a_carver> nitind, already hava jee down.
[04:07:43] <d_a_carver> well, crap...somehow my download speed was capped at 2kb, fixed that now.
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[04:34:03] <Sh0rtWave> so I have a quick question
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[04:34:41] <tholl583xx> hi
[04:34:51] <Sh0rtWave> I'm running Flash Builder 4, which is built on some brand of eclipse and when I save a file that's not in the "normal build" list (as in, it's a support file, not ilke a class dependency or anything), is there a way to respawn the build without having to clean the project?
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[04:36:50] <tholl583xx> i am working on a largish web project running under tomcat, its something like 200MB of code, a redeploy to my local test servers doesn't take toooo long, but its about say 2 mins to build and make the new classes running
[04:37:00] <tholl583xx> maybe more like 5 mins
[04:37:51] <tholl583xx> is there anything i can plug-in to eclipse to make it build and deploy, and tell tomcat classloader to reload my changed classes
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[04:42:50] <tholl583xx> soemthing liek defintely works with the debugger, because sometimes its says and complains that it can't hotdfeloy and needs restarting
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[05:01:11] <nitind> tholl583xx: Using WTP?
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[05:47:33] <tholl583xx> nitind: im in Java EE pespective
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[05:52:59] <_joey> I have ms windows 7 64, java 1.6.0_25 x64 and eclipse 64
[05:53:16] <_joey> when i start eclipse it complains that it can't see JNI library
[05:53:27] <_joey> env path is set
[05:54:05] <_joey> I remember early days, there were problems getting eclipse installed playing nicely with jre
[05:54:22] <_joey> it's 2011, the problem is still there, according to the number of querries on google
[05:55:44] <ron> never had that problem.
[05:55:55] <ron> but do you have the jre installed or the jdk?
[05:56:08] <_joey> http://www.satya-weblog.com/2010/07/eclipse-error-failed-to-load-the-jni-shared-library-cprogram-files-x86javajre6binclientjvm-dll.html
[05:56:15] <_joey> a typical querry
[05:56:31] <_joey> I think I stated that jre is installed and path is set
[05:57:02] <ron> and which eclipse package do you have instaled?
[05:57:07] <ron> installed even.
[05:57:23] <_joey> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/epp/downloads/release/helios/SR2/eclipse-java-helios-SR2-win32-x86_64.zip
[05:57:27] <_joey> this
[05:57:41] <nitind> And the JRE is on the system path?
[05:58:00] <_joey> java version 1.6.0_25
[05:58:15] <ron> that's by running java -version in command line?
[05:58:19] <_joey> yes
[05:58:24] <nitind> How did you unzip it?
[05:58:33] <_joey> unzipped what?
[05:59:04] <ron> can you paste the full output of java -version?
[05:59:10] <nitind> _joey: eclipse-java-helios-SR2-win32-x86_64.zip .  I use infozip, but it's not uncommon for my .exe and .dll files to not have executable rights granted to my user on a NTFS filesystem when doing so.
[05:59:24] <nitind> Ergo, can't load them.
[05:59:32] <_joey> it's executing, it can't load the library
[05:59:45] <nitind> .dlls are libraries.
[05:59:58] <_joey> ron what exactly do you want to see? I can't copy and paste from console on ms windows
[06:00:05] <nitind> Of course you can.
[06:00:09] <ron> of course you can.
[06:00:15] <_joey> build 20.0-b11
[06:00:32] <nitind> All of it.  ~pastebin if it's more than a couple of lines.
[06:00:32] <Arbalest> Please paste the relevant information onto a pastebin. The submission will generate a URL which you can then copy/paste back into the channel - http://www.pastebin.ca/ - http://pastebin.com/ - http://pastebin.org - http://ideone.com/ - http://pastie.org
[06:00:32] <ron> I'm looking for the last line of the output.
[06:01:29] <_joey> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 20.0-b11. mixed mode, sharing)
[06:01:35] <nitind> _joey: And incidentally, that crack about 2011 was not going to go over well.  You did know that, right?
[06:01:53] <nitind> _joey: So what did you use to unzip it?
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[06:02:24] <nitind> _joey: And onto what kind of filesystem did it go?
[06:03:18] <ron> are you sure you have the 64bit jre installed?
[06:03:57] <_joey> ron it's sitting in Program Files, on ms win 7, 32 bits goes into another directory under x86
[06:04:05] <_joey> other than that I didn't double check
[06:04:09] <ron> that's the worst way to check it ever.
[06:04:23] <ron> that's why I asked you to paste the whole java -version output
[06:04:32] <ron> please, do.
[06:04:32] <nitind> It's possible the installer for it's not quite that smart.
[06:04:33] <_joey> i can't copy it from ms win console
[06:04:43] <_joey> hold on, i'll take a screenshot
[06:04:44] <ron> right click -> mark
[06:05:00] <ron> then 'enter' to copy
[06:05:01] <nitind> Again, YES you can.  From the system menu, Edit->Mark.
[06:05:15] <nitind> ron: That only works if he's enabled that mode explicitly.
[06:05:25] <ron> no, that works anyhow.
[06:05:32] <nitind> System menu of the cmd.exe window, I mean.
[06:05:37] <ron> to do a quick edit mode, you need to enable it.
[06:05:45] <ron> and then you can just mark with the mouse.
[06:06:06] <nitind> Hmm, guess my old copy of 4NT behaves differently, then.
[06:06:23] <ron> well, you should *seriously* consider to scrap it ;)
[06:06:24] <nitind> _joey: Screenshot's fine, then.
[06:06:38] <nitind> ron: Works except with files >4GB in size.  Can't report them.
[06:06:53] <ron> well, dos works too. don't wanna use it.
[06:06:54] <ron> :)
[06:07:34] <_joey> ron http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/2346/screenshotqe.png
[06:07:51] <ron> right.
[06:08:04] <ron> go download the 64 bit version, then we'll talk again.
[06:08:11] <ron> in the meantime, I'm gonna take a shower.
[06:08:29] <_joey> well, a waste of time talking to you
[06:08:34] <_joey> go and have a shower
[06:08:42] <_joey> i'd read the forums and blogs
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[06:09:14] <_joey> he saw system32 and assumed java is 32 bits
[06:09:16] <_joey> heh
[06:09:30] <chek0v> anyone familiar iwth geany? for a c file (and prob others) in geany it will draw a verticle dotted line from the parent if (something) { to the closing }
[06:09:31] <_joey> in fact, it's 64 which i have exectuable
[06:09:36] <chek0v> does the same feature exist in eclipse?
[06:09:41] <chek0v> id ont know what you would call that to google it
[06:11:13] <nitind> _joey: Actually, I'm pretty sure it would explicitly say it was a 64-bit VM if it were.
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[06:11:59] <_joey> you can only be sure about zipping and unzipping
[06:12:09] <nitind> eh?
[06:15:07] <chek0v> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=84878
[06:15:10] <chek0v> looks like no dice.
[06:16:06] <nitind> chek0v: If it helps, the matching whatever is usually marked in some way when the cursor is on a whatever.  And you can hop between them usually with Ctrl+Shift+P.  Lines only work if you happen to format your code that way.
[06:16:15] <chek0v> yeah i made a nice pink highlight
[06:16:19] <chek0v> for bracket matching heh
[06:16:35] <chek0v> just one of those things you get used to
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[06:18:14] <chek0v> also one of those things you fixate on when you are procrastinating instead of just coding ;)
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[06:21:20] <ron> damn, I was going to suggest to him that he should install netbeans instead.
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[06:35:04] <_joey> I have color mode and plug-in for eclipse. How do install these?
[06:42:17] <_joey> is there anything good about Eclipse at all?
[06:42:25] <_joey> I am glad I won't have to use this shit
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[06:46:29] <Napalm54> Hello, has anyone had any experience with a shared editing / peer programming plugin for Eclipse?  I have tried several (Saros, Xpairtise), but are there any others?
[06:48:50] <nitind> _joey: You really have a knack for making people not want to answer.  Is there any documentation with those?
[06:50:15] <Napalm54> pair programming*
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[06:56:40] <_joey> you are not people
[06:56:45] <_joey> so speak for yourself
[06:57:34] <_joey> frankly, i don't care about eclipse and those who are using it
[06:57:48] <_joey> no person in the right frame of mind can you use this software
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[07:02:46] <nitind> _joey: regardless, jon was right that you're not defaulting to a 64-bit JRE.
[07:04:09] <_joey> I may be making a mistake somewhere
[07:04:32] <_joey> can you see the point I was making earlier? So many people are asking the same question over and over
[07:04:51] <nitind> _joey: Which people?
[07:04:52] <_joey> it's been the story of Eclipse and Java
[07:04:57] <_joey> hit google
[07:07:04] <nitind> Sure, fine, got that 64-bit JRE installed?
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[07:09:13] <_joey> yes
[07:09:20] <_joey> eclipse is running
[07:09:33] <_joey> jon was right
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[07:46:58] <aminpy> when everybody can download eclipse indigo?
[07:47:09] <ron> should be sometime today.
[07:48:02] <aminpy> ron, now just eclipse friends can download it!
[07:48:14] <ron> yup.
[07:48:26] <nitind> sometime *later* today.
[07:48:48] <ron> well, today is not today all around the world yet.
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[08:13:48] <ricardo_> alguien de habla hispana?
[08:13:50] <MaxPrt> hello. How do I debug web projects with eclipse? I've set a break point, but the script executes without stopping there
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[08:17:02] <MaxPrt> nvm had to start server in debug mode
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[08:42:21] <BoF> hi i need to make a report in java plz
[08:42:23] <BoF> help me
[08:50:59] <ron> BoF: that's a bit vague.
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[09:29:43] <ksmith> hey guys
[09:29:54] <ksmith> is there any way to fix bad character encoding on a whole project?
[09:30:14] <ron> what if you set it for the project?
[09:30:37] <ksmith> well, the wrongly encoded characters vanish, but they're just inivisble
[09:30:48] <ksmith> problem is, some devs used one encoding, the others used another
[09:30:54] <ksmith> and now everything's a mess
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[09:32:05] <ron> you may want to search for a tool to do that in your os.
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[09:32:55] <ksmith> is there anything like a project wide search & replace?
[09:33:11] <ron> sure, but I don't see how that'd help you.
[09:33:18] <ron> ctrl+h
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[09:43:32] <Frankie-T> Hi. Is there a way to make eclipse jump in my own debug view instead of the standard?
[09:43:40] <Frankie-T> when hitting a breakpoint
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[09:47:53] <ron> Frankie-T: view or perpective?
[09:49:14] <Frankie-T> perspective
[09:49:14] <Frankie-T> sry
[09:50:23] <ron> Frankie-T: Window->Preferences->Run/Debug->Perspectives. you can choose the defauly perspective for debug there.
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[09:51:08] <Frankie-T> ah thank you very much. don't know how I could miss that
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[10:54:39] <ualtin> is there a way to activate the hover with a shortcut
[10:55:45] <FauxFaux> Ctrl+1? :)
[10:56:26] <ualtin> ahh of course
[10:56:29] <ualtin> thanks
[10:56:50] <ualtin> I love using eclipse and love it when i do not need to use it with the mouse
[10:57:23] <xea> that is why i would love to see a really usable vim plugin :>
[10:57:41] <FauxFaux> What features do you want from vim?
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[10:59:47] <xea> insert mode, command mode, :%sn,M regexp replaces, deletion of given number of lines, recording, navigation and stuff
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[11:01:27] <FauxFaux> I find the alt+shift+up/down language aware block selection much more useful than the vim stuff; nothing wrong with ctrl+f find/replace etc.
[11:02:24] <xea> well, i don't miss the exact features, i know they are present
[11:02:36] <xea> what i really miss is the keyboard bindings
[11:02:41] <private_meta> Hi. I've been using Eclipse by running it on a linux server and using xming locally to view it. My problem now is that I cannot resize subwindows created by eclipse, such as project properties or the project explorer view that has been separated from the main window. Any way to work around that?
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[11:03:02] <FauxFaux> Does alt+middle-click-drag work in xming?  Probably not.
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[11:03:43] <private_meta> No
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[11:03:59] <private_meta> Not that I would know what alt+middle-clock-drag would do exactly, but it doesn't do anything
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[11:15:52] <pulse00> hi all. is there a recommended way to load stuff from a database during startup of an RCP application?
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[11:16:51] <pulse00> with "way" i meant the lifecycle point during startup
[11:18:23] <pulse00> right now im doing it inside the start() method of the Application, but this seems to block things
[11:18:57] <FauxFaux> You want something to have happened before startup but it not to block the startup?
[11:20:29] <pulse00> no, sorry. the startup is finishing. but after the startup, when i want to retrieve the data from the singleton which loaded it, everything is empty, until i close the app. everything i send to System.out() while loading data from the DB doesn't show up until i shutdown the app
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[11:24:35] <C-Otto> greetings
[11:24:45] <C-Otto> i'd like to know what's new in indigo, is there some list?
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[11:31:42] <gsson> C-Otto: There's probably a new and noteworthy page somewhere at eclipse.org, but http://eclipsesource.com/blogs/2011/06/22/top-10-eclipse-indigo-features/ might be interesting
[11:37:58] <pulse00> let me rephrase it: at which point during RCP startup would i put long-running tasks - ie. things that would require a loading-bar in the splash screen?
[11:48:02] <C-Otto> thanks
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[11:54:00] <sr__> hi there
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[11:59:30] <ron> _joey: came to complain a little more?
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[12:08:07] <C-Otto> hm, it seems i am downloading some updates from download.eclipse.org with 20 KByte/sec
[12:08:20] <C-Otto> why doesn't that use the available mirrors (e.g. mine)?
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[12:11:24] <pulse00> any hint how to update a ViewPart from a background thread? the only solution i found is to periodically execute a runnable in a thread and inside run Display.getDefault().asyncExec(). but i would need real-time update from a background thread which aggregates log entries
[12:11:35] <_joey> ron complain?
[12:11:57] * _joey does not complain over crap
[12:12:02] <_joey> it's not worth it
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[13:00:24] <paulweb515> pulse00: collect your data in the background thread, and then post an asyncExec(*) with the calls to text.setText(*), label.setText(*), etc
[13:01:09] * paulweb515 grumbles
[13:01:20] <paulweb515> trying to figure out what to do with binaries when I've got a git repo
[13:01:35] <ron> do store them?
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[13:02:23] <paulweb515> ron: in my case, SWT builds binaries for >10 platforms and checks them into CVS.  Then the build takes those binaries, compiles the code, and makes the plugins/fragments
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[13:02:47] <ron> ah, sweet life.
[13:02:48] <paulweb515> ron: but git would store all the binaries ... by the time we hit Juno, the SWT repo would be huge to clone
[13:03:22] <pulse00> paulweb515, thanks it's working now
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[13:06:12] <pulse00> if i populate a org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Text periodically with new data, can i make the VerticalScrollbar automatically scroll to bottom, or do i need to manually scroll down after re-populating the Text field?
[13:07:52] <paulweb515> pulse00: have a look at the constructor ... if it can be done automatically, there will either be a style listed there, or a set* method
[13:08:04] <pulse00> okay, thanks
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[13:11:53] <Elvanor> If using Search-> Text -> In project, how do I disable case sensitive?
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[13:14:12] <rcjsuen> Not sure if you can.
[13:14:21] <rcjsuen> I guess you might have to use Ctrl+H instead.
[13:15:35] <Elvanor> What does Control=H ?
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[13:15:39] <Elvanor> control+h
[13:16:03] <Elvanor> I am using Search -> Text -> Project all the time... the only thing that really annoys me is this case sensitive default :(
[13:16:31] <rcjsuen> Ctrl+H brings up the regular search dialog
[13:16:46] <Elvanor> ok, that's not what I need.
[13:17:57] <rcjsuen> Well, it'll do what you want, just in more steps.
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[15:01:07] <rcjsuen> the sit eseems to have updated/switched for me http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/
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[15:01:26] <nbf> yay
[15:01:41] *** rcjsuen changes topic to "Eclipse (http://www.eclipse.org) | Eclipse 3.7, 4.1, and Indigo has been released! Check the FAQ for solutions to your Eclipse-related issues at http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ and blog about all things Eclipse at http://www.planeteclipse.org/ | This channel is logged"
[15:01:52] <rcjsuen> torrents http://build.eclipse.org/technology/phoenix/torrents/indigo/
[15:02:02] <rcjsuen> enjoy http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.7-201106131736/eclipse-news.html
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[15:02:39] <FauxFaux> \o/
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[15:13:44] <rcjsuen> And for you eager beavers, you are welcome to try 4.1. http://download.eclipse.org/e4/sdk/
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[15:20:27] <ronr__> isn't 3.8 scheduled to be released before 4.1?
[15:22:16] <FauxFaux> Given Java 7 will be out by August I suspect people will be using betas a lot more this release cycle.
[15:22:27] <FauxFaux> (As 3.7 can't have full Java 7 support.)
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[15:25:30] <ronr__> can't?
[15:27:07] <paulweb515> ronr__: java 7 isn't out, the foundation cannot release any official java 7 support in their tools
[15:27:27] <ronr__> right, but I thought it'd be supported in 3.7.1.
[15:27:42] <ronr__> and well, netbeans and idea support it even though it's not released yet.
[15:27:46] <paulweb515> ronr__: yes
[15:28:14] <paulweb515> netbeans also includes "beta" support.
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[15:31:20] <rcjsuen> Someone opened a bug today saying VE won't install onto 3.7.
[15:31:25] <rcjsuen> They should probably use WindowBuilder I guess :o
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[15:36:28] <paulweb515> didn't I see an archive review go by for VE?
[15:36:46] <rcjsuen> yes, you did
[15:36:47] <rcjsuen> well, i did
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[15:36:52] <rcjsuen> so unless we both imagined it, yes there was
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[15:41:05] <deSilva> I cant check myself right now, but is there a diagnostic for missing case statements for enum switch in Java in the new release?
[15:41:25] <rcjsuen> i thought there always was one
[15:41:49] <deSilva> oh!
[15:42:45] <rcjsuen> i see one
[15:42:52] <rcjsuen> so if there wasn't one, there is one now
[15:43:22] <deSilva> that's good news then, thanks
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[15:50:00] <rcjsuen> jubula's icon is...interesting
[15:50:18] <rcjsuen> oh it's an owl
[15:50:21] <rcjsuen> at a small res i thought it was a bat
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[15:53:25] <lemmy> JavaRuntime.getDefaultVMInstall() returns null on Mac OS X 10.06. Any hints?
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[15:55:35] <lemmy> nm
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[19:26:30] <ron> Helios
[19:26:31] <ron> pfft
[19:26:34] <ron> that's so 2010.
[19:27:05] <OldCode101> lol omg when did that happen ...
[19:27:30] <nitind> OldCode101: It's just a Java Application, isn't it?
[19:27:51] <OldCode101> java web application
[19:28:51] <OldCode101> but yes
[19:29:10] <OldCode101> is there someway I can associate the Java validator with .bsh fikes?
[19:29:27] <OldCode101> *files
[19:29:50] <nitind> Are they actually Java source files?
[19:29:53] <OldCode101> it would be better then nothing
[19:30:26] <OldCode101> BeanShell is like a lazy bastard cousin of Java, (you know when you make a copy of a copy how it turns out all blury)
[19:30:43] <OldCode101> for the most part its java code
[19:30:48] <OldCode101> but not quite 100%
[19:30:59] <nitind> It's that "most" that'll cause you nothing but pain.
[19:31:09] <rcjsuen> I don't know why you'd want it to try to parse it
[19:31:25] <OldCode101> we will be moving (slowly) out of it but its going to be a long painful process
[19:31:56] <OldCode101> well I would like to validate the source before it gets compiled off to the server
[19:32:25] <rcjsuen> but the source isn't 100% compliant with the JLS :o
[19:32:32] <OldCode101> I know
[19:32:37] <OldCode101> but something is better than nothing
[19:32:59] <rcjsuen> I guess if one want to filter through false positives
[19:33:17] <OldCode101> for example I am trying to hunt down a null pointer reference error on a substring method call
[19:33:40] <OldCode101> with 387 references to substring in the project its like trying to find a needle in a stack of needles
[19:33:57] <OldCode101> and if it cant debug it, then it can't step through it
[19:34:05] <OldCode101> so I have no idea where the issue may be
[19:35:04] <OldCode101> 16k lines of this crap and no way to test it
[19:35:14] <OldCode101> (other than trial and error)
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[19:35:49] <moradan> briandealwis, thanks. And how can I access sources for JDT plugin from Eclipse. I have googled and found only one way: http://musingsofaprogrammingaddict.blogspot.com/2010/08/retrieving-jdt-sources-with-eclipse-36.html - it simply do not work
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[19:36:03] <briandealwis> OldCode101: in terms of validation, you might have better luck defining your own parser.  Look into the Xtext project: it provides for creating custom parsers / DSLs   http://www.eclipse.org/Xtext/
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[19:36:13] <briandealwis> moradan: install the SDK
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[19:36:30] <OldCode101> briandealwis: looking
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[19:36:49] <briandealwis> OldCode101: won't help you with runtime errors like NPEs though
[19:37:11] <OldCode101> right
[19:39:11] <moradan> please a bit more verbose - what SDK? I have Eclipse RCP and plugin development version, I looked in the "Install new software" menu - nothing seems to fit...
[19:40:33] <nitind> moradan: You already have JDT installed.
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[19:40:51] <ron> do I have jdt installed?
[19:41:24] <briandealwis> moradan: Help > Install New Software select the Helios/Indigo site as appropriate, and look for Eclipse SDK
[19:41:24] <moradan> nitind, thanks, I understand - I want to look into sources and they are unavailable.
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[19:41:56] <briandealwis> moradan: the SDK contains the source bundles for the various parts of the Eclipse Platform + JDT + PDE
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[19:42:55] <nitind> moradan: You're looking for "Eclipse JDT Plug-in Developer Resources"
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[19:48:46] <moradan> briandealwis, very sorry, it is really under the group "Eclipse SDK". thanks to nitind - exact name is "Eclipse JDT Plug-in Developer Resources"
[19:49:22] <briandealwis> moradan: they both work.  "Eclipse SDK" includes "Eclipse JDT Plug-in Developer Resources"
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[20:39:44] <nbf> I wonder how much work is involved getting windowbuilder to work with a new SWT implementation
[20:40:00] <nbf> I have a feeling it's not going to just work
[20:40:18] <rcjsuen> think the basics might
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[20:44:24] <TravisD> Is there a version of the CDT which will correctly parse C++0x?
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[20:46:44] <birtuser1> BIRT: Does anyone know if it's possible to build a chart with side-by-side percent-stacked-bars (both, based on an additional grouping level), or can estimate how long that might take to implement?
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[20:54:08] <sorressean> I was curious if someone could help me? when I try to run a hello world program, i get the following: http://pastebin.com/kvitxG0D
[20:54:26] <waterfoul> I was wondering how i could implement something like PDT's special comment structure (@param etc.) for giving more information when using code assist
[20:54:32] <sorressean> I'm relatively new to Java and today is my first dive into eclipse, so needless to say... I am confused
[20:55:09] <rcjsuen> waterfoul: That would depend on which part you are stuck on I guess.
[20:55:31] <waterfoul> I have a language which does not support such a thing and would like to add it
[20:55:40] <rcjsuen> sorressean: You mean you try to run an app then Eclipse crasheS?
[20:56:01] <sorressean> it shows that error, yes.
[20:56:33] <rcjsuen> sorressean: So you mean it doesn't crash?
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[20:56:51] <rcjsuen> waterfoul: You're writing your own plug-in?
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[20:57:01] <sorressean> I mean it shows that exception in the error view... the program does not run
[20:57:11] <rcjsuen> sorressean: Maybe you should restart Eclipse then.
[20:57:15] <sorressean> I have
[20:57:35] <waterfoul> I have a plugin and would like to improve it
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[21:01:34] <marl_scot> anyone know why eclipse would start to eat my CPU 50-120% after some time? (sometimes its 30 mins, other times it can be a couple of days)?
[21:01:55] <ronr_> of course.
[21:01:58] <sorressean> Any ideas what's up with that error?
[21:01:59] <ronr_> it does someething.
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[21:03:43] <marl_scot> helios PHP SR2 20110218-0911 with subclipse
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[21:04:23] <marl_scot> also ram useage is high (75% CPU 69% RAM, when i killed it just now)
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[21:04:30] * ron tries real hard not to react to that.
[21:04:40] <marl_scot> ron u talking to me?
[21:04:48] <paulweb515_> marl_scot: you can find out what it's doing when it goes crazy: ~deadlock
[21:04:49] <Arbalest> In a deadlock? http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/How_to_report_a_deadlock
[21:05:09] <ron> marl_scot: sure.
[21:05:16] <alankila> 69 % of RAM indicates 1 GB of memory on the system
[21:05:34] <alankila> eclipse normally caps around 500 MB for me anyway
[21:06:00] * ron smirks
[21:06:07] <marl_scot> ron, what did i do wrong then?
[21:06:18] <ron> alankila: which language do you develop with?
[21:06:26] <alankila> java. Shouldn't matter.
[21:06:41] <ron> marl_scot: oh. you 'develop' with php.
[21:06:45] <alankila> virtual machines have virtual resource allocation. They use that amount and no more.
[21:06:58] <ron> that's correct.
[21:07:07] <ron> to an extent.
[21:07:18] <alankila> yeah java sure has bunch of other heaps and native code can allocate outside it
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[21:07:34] <marl_scot> ron, the reason it took me a couple of mins to get the version etc. was because i was waiting for eclipse to die and restart
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[21:08:07] <ron> marl_scot: you missed my point. I mock php and anything related to it.
[21:08:34] <marl_scot> ah, so it was the fact that i am a php programmer rather than anything to do with my question then?
[21:08:52] <sorressean> I was curious if someone could help me? when I try to run a hello world program, i get the following: http://pastebin.com/kvitxG0D I try to run it, and that's when that exception is thrown in eclipse.
[21:08:52] <ron> that is correct.
[21:09:00] <paulweb515_> marl_scot: it doesn't ...
[21:09:37] <marl_scot> thats ok then, i think java is rubish so where even!
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[21:10:05] <paulweb515_> marl_scot: he's takin' the mickey out of you ... don't get drawn in :-)
[21:10:22] <zzz_a> anyone here use birt?
[21:10:22] <marl_scot> lol, kinda got that in the end :)
[21:10:58] <ron> paulweb515_: you love me :)
[21:10:59] <paulweb515_> sorressean: try to run what?  is it a java program?
[21:11:05] <sorressean> paulweb515_:  yes
[21:11:27] <sorressean> I hit f11 to run and debug or control+f11 to just run and I get the exception.
[21:11:35] <paulweb515_> ron: I tolerate most people :-)
[21:11:57] <ron> paulweb515_: of course. but me, you love.
[21:12:10] <paulweb515_> sorressean: did you create a launch config for it?  Try going to Run>Run configurations and launch it from there
[21:13:17] <ron> am I the only one who liked The Killing's season finale?
[21:13:47] <paulweb515_> that's not in my playlist
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[21:13:59] <paulweb515_> however, The Deadzone season 5 and 6 just showed up :-)
[21:14:01] <sorressean> paulweb515_:  you're awesome, thanks. so I gues sthe treeview just determines what type it is (I chose application), then when I run it in future that will use that configuration to run. thanks again.
[21:14:05] <sorressean> paulweb515_:  you're awesome, thanks. so I gues sthe treeview just determines what type it is (I chose application), then when I run it in future that will use that configuration to run. thanks again.
[21:14:47] <sorressean> part
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[21:14:49] <ron> wtf is deadzone?
[21:14:51] <paulweb515_> sorressean: I'm not sure why you were getting the NPE, but now that it's launched it should be
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[21:15:02] <paulweb515_> A TV show based on Steven King's book
[21:15:10] <ron> oi.
[21:15:14] <paulweb515_> It's a little older (from a couple of years ago)
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[21:16:08] <ron> well, I'm not too fond of stephen king, though Haven is mildly entertaining.
[21:16:11] * ron watches too much tv.
[21:21:09] * ron ponders taking the risk of updating to indigo.
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[21:23:54] <reisi> wow nice indigo is out
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[21:55:22] <drei> When running a java program under run configurations.  Under arguments, whats the difference between Program arguments and VM arguments?
[21:55:58] <FauxFaux> One box is for the program, the other is for the VM.
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[21:56:23] <FauxFaux> If you want to pass things to the program, use one box, if you want to pass them to the vm, use the other.
[21:56:34] <drei> FauxFaux, is program arguments will be the same arguments when #java program args
[21:56:42] <FauxFaux> Yes.
[21:56:42] <drei> command
[21:57:23] <drei> Oh okay, sorry FauxFaux for a stupid question but haven't really realized till I asked. Thank you.
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[21:59:18] <drei> Would something with -D in "-Dsun.lang.ClassLoader.allowArraySyntax=true" be a VM argument or an environmental variable?
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[22:07:47] <ron> drei: -D is a vm argument which translate to a System.getProperty property.
[22:08:04] <FauxFaux> drei: A vm argument.
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[22:11:01] <drei> Thanks ron and FauxFaux
[22:11:55] <khismetix> I have a dynamic web project and I am using Helios eclipse to build a project containing several servlets ... when I start the tomcat server within eclipse the servlet is not deployed.. the only way I can deploy the servlet is by dragging build.xml to my ant config and clicking deploy
[22:12:29] <FauxFaux> Are you doing run as -> run on server..?
[22:14:02] <khismetix> let me check
[22:14:53] <khismetix> I am just right clicking on the server and starting the server...
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[22:15:36] <FauxFaux> Do what I said.
[22:15:41] <khismetix> I added the project to the server
[22:15:53] <khismetix> Ok. FauxFaux.. where do I choose that option ?
[22:15:58] <FauxFaux> On the project.
[22:16:28] <khismetix> Ok.. I've tried but...
[22:16:49] <khismetix> I get an error message : the server does not support version 3.0 of the j2ee web module
[22:16:51] <khismetix> spec
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[22:17:21] <FauxFaux> Cool.
[22:17:37] <ron> heh
[22:17:39] <khismetix> so. what does that mean ?
[22:18:02] <ron> that the server does not support version 3.0 of the j2ee web module.
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[22:18:19] <khismetix> tomcat 6 ?
[22:18:55] <ron> you're asking?
[22:19:24] <FauxFaux> A community I'm not part of allows people to end conversations with "coolstorybro" when it's clearly not going anywhere.
[22:19:35] <khismetix> I am just wondering how I get myself out of the pickle with this .. does not support 3.0 of the j2ee web module .. problem
[22:20:10] <ron> either use a server that supports it, or use a different version of the web module.
[22:20:13] <ron> problem solved.
[22:20:29] <ron> FauxFaux: coolstorybro!
[22:20:31] <khismetix> How can I use a different version of the web module ?
[22:20:44] <khismetix> can i change it within eclipse ?
[22:21:00] <ron> you see, I'd expect you to ask how you can use a different version of the server.
[22:22:06] <khismetix> Well yes.. I could download tomcat 7
[22:22:23] <FauxFaux> What's the hotkey that tells you which view / editor / bleh is focused at the moment, and gives you pluginy details on it?
[22:22:29] <khismetix> Is there any way around this while continuing to use tomcat 6 ?
[22:22:40] <ron> FauxFaux: with pde?
[22:22:49] <khismetix> I've tried to bring the version back to 2.5 but Eclipse barfs at that
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[22:23:49] <briandealwis> FauxFaux: Spy, Shift-Alt-F1
[22:23:59] <briandealwis> I think
[22:24:16] <FauxFaux> I so totally hit that with my random mauling of meta-keys and 1/2/3/f1/f2/f3, but that's it, thanks.
[22:25:11] <khismetix> Is there any way for me to force eclipse to use version 2.x of the j2ee web module ??
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[22:38:42] <lisak> why there is not the overall configuration stored in ~home/.eclipse ?
[22:39:14] <briandealwis> lisak: because the configuration is stored on a per-workspace basis
[22:39:19] <lisak> so that if one migrates from 3.6 to 3.7, there is this backup / export procedure necessary
[22:39:57] <lisak> but not stuff like plugins installed, update sites, configuration etc
[22:40:45] <briandealwis> that stuff *is* stored in the Eclipse installation (or if that's readonly, in ~/.eclipse)
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[22:46:14] <lisak> thats the point / problem
[22:46:58] <lisak> Export preferences in Java dev edition contain : Java (appearance, code style, compiler) and Keys preferences
[22:47:04] <lisak> but nothing else
[22:47:29] <lisak> + I export the update sites and install the plugins from scratch again
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[22:47:44] <jimi_> How can I work on a remote server without saving local copies?
[22:48:31] * ron senses hackery.
[22:48:37] <lisak> so I suppose all the other configuration is in workspace/.plugins
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[22:49:21] <lisak> .metadata/.plugins
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[22:50:37] <heffner> test.
[22:50:39] <heffner> yay!
[22:50:44] <lisak> but I can't just copy  eclipse/plugins over to 3.7 version .. I have to install all the plugins manually
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[22:52:26] <heffner> i haven't used eclipse in a really long time  and am having problems with the program. it keeps on crashing
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[22:52:58] <ron> crashing is healthy.
[22:53:01] <ron> check the ~logs
[22:53:01] <Arbalest> Looking for your Eclipse logs? The workspace log should be located at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. In Eclipse, try Help > About > Installation Details > Configuration and then choose "View Error Log". If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[22:53:23] <briandealwis> lisak: check the channel FAQ: there's a way to use the update to pull in changes from a different installation
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[22:56:15] <heffner> ahh, i was trying to find the logs
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[22:57:47] <lisak> briandealwis, I don't see that in FAQ
[22:58:56] <briandealwis> lisak: see "How do I copy plugins between Eclipse installations with p2"
[22:59:09] <heffner> ghere is the log
[22:59:11] <heffner> http://pastebin.com/iQFbchaA
[22:59:48] <lisak> briandealwis, do we look at the same http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Eclipse_FAQs
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[23:00:34] <briandealwis> lisak: no, the channel faq is "IRC_FAQ" (see the announcement when you joined the channel)
[23:00:41] <briandealwis> lisak: http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#How_do_I_copy_plugins_between_Eclipse_installations_with_p2.3F
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[23:01:22] <lisak> wow that great, didn't know p2 can do that
[23:01:28] <lisak> that's*
[23:02:49] <lisak> so Export Preferences > All,   export update sites  and this and that should be all
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[23:03:35] <ron> heffner: sorry, can't help you there. maybe someone else could.
[23:03:53] <briandealwis> lisak: generally Eclipse installations are kept separate as not all plugins are compatible between Eclipse releases
[23:03:53] <heffner> any idea how i can help myself?
[23:04:17] <ron> sure. hire a developer for you.
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[23:04:26] <briandealwis> heffner: that's not the log that we'd need; we need the one in .../.metadata/.log
[23:04:42] <heffner> oh
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[23:07:34] <heffner> http://pastebin.com/PZweYNLa
[23:07:47] <heffner> briandealwis:  i think that might be the right log
[23:08:36] <ron> oi.
[23:08:39] <ron> that's evil.
[23:08:48] <ron> !MESSAGE Unhandled event loop exception
[23:08:49] <ron> heh
[23:08:51] <briandealwis> heffner: you've got some java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space happening
[23:09:25] <briandealwis> heffner: check the channel faq for things relating to that
[23:09:31] <briandealwis> to PermGen
[23:09:58] <heffner> briandealwis: i have a bunch of stuff installed in eclipse- java, android, clojure.
[23:10:11] <ron> that'd do it.
[23:10:12] <heffner> would deleting the clojure (compiler?) work?
[23:10:14] <ron> uninstall clojure.
[23:10:15] <ron> :p
[23:10:20] <heffner> sweet!
[23:10:22] <heffner> how.
[23:10:25] <ron> no, wait.
[23:10:27] <ron> I was kidding :p
[23:10:38] <ron> I just like to mock people who use clojure.
[23:10:47] <ron> though I much prefer mocking php users.
[23:10:51] <briandealwis> heffner: no, it won't.  check the ~faq
[23:10:51] <Arbalest> Please see the FAQs http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Category:FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/The_Official_Eclipse_FAQs
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[23:12:21] <ron> gnight everyone.
[23:14:26] <heffner> oy
[23:14:31] <heffner> thanks briandealwis
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[23:24:02] <nitind> heffner: How old is that build?
[23:24:50] <nitind> heffner: Packages since Helios have specified a MaxPermSize by default.  It looks like yours did not.
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[23:30:10] <heffner> it's like a year or two
[23:30:36] <heffner> nitind:  sorry about that delay
[23:31:37] <nitind> heffner: I'm guessing two.  The one we put out just today shouldn't have that issue.
[23:31:56] <nitind> heffner: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/eclipse-ide-java-ee-developers/indigor
[23:32:18] <heffner> nitind:  i was going to do this http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_How_do_I_increase_the_permgen_size_available_to_Eclipse%3F
[23:32:47] <heffner> which of the two do you recommend
[23:33:26] <nitind> heffner: If you launch it with your own script, the first, otherwise the second.  Take not that they should be on separate lines.
[23:34:16] <nitind> heffner: But then unless you have a strong reason to stay on that old release...
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[23:36:15] <heffner> what do you mean if i launvh it with my own script?
[23:36:42] <heffner> this is the target to the short cut
[23:36:45] <heffner> C:\eclipse\eclipse.exe -vm %JAVA_HOME%/bin/javaw.exe
[23:36:48] <nitind> A shell script, or .bat file.
[23:36:52] <nitind> (or .cmd file)
[23:37:06] <nitind> Or a shortcut like that.
[23:37:21] <heffner> :)
[23:37:43] <heffner> so you're saying just update the version i have, and that oughta fix it?
[23:38:24] <nitind> Yep.
[23:38:34] <heffner> thanks Nitin
[23:39:00] <heffner> i'll try it.
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[23:51:54] <heffner> nitind:  still there?
[23:53:02] <nitind> heffner: yes
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[23:53:28] <heffner> so i dl'ed what you said, and it was a complete download- it wasn't an update.
[23:53:37] <nitind> Yes
[23:53:47] <heffner> so what i did was i went to HELP ->Check for Updates
[23:53:54] <heffner> would that accomplish the same thing?
[23:54:02] <nitind> Depends on where you started from.
[23:54:25] <heffner> so if i use the new version, do i delete the old eclipse?
[23:54:45] <heffner> sorry- it's been awhile for me....
[23:55:24] <nitind> Yes, after you confirmed that it's acceptable.  Unzip it somewhere new and after you back up the original workspace, use the -data switch to point it at the original workspace.
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