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[00:01:56] <FunnyLookinHat> Ok - so if I installed a new version of Eclipse and use the same workspace - should I delete any hidden files/folders from that workspace to make sure eclipse runs smoothly?
[00:02:18] <paulweb515_> FunnyLookinHat: a new eclipse is supposed to be able to open an existing workspace
[00:02:24] <paulweb515_> FunnyLookinHat: but you can't go backwards
[00:03:04] <FunnyLookinHat> Well - 3.7 (RC4) is crashing on my left and right...  about every minute or so - so I'm going to downgrade to 3.6 - so how should I compensate for that?
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[00:30:31] <paulweb515_> FunnyLookinHat: why is it crashing?  like SEGV?
[00:30:57] <FunnyLookinHat> Couldn't tell you - the entire application just disappears without any error message.
[00:31:06] <FunnyLookinHat> Already downgraded back to 3.6 - seems to be working fine now...
[00:31:16] <FunnyLookinHat> The error logs didn't even mention it
[00:31:33] <FauxFaux> Any hs_err2394782374982347 files lying around?
[00:33:17] <SafetyHazard> How do I add a jar to my project? I want to add miglayout
[00:37:01] <FunnyLookinHat> FauxFaux: err.... I deleted anything that might have been left around to make a smooth downgrade.
[00:37:05] <FunnyLookinHat> i.e. rm -rf .metadata
[00:37:08] <FunnyLookinHat> Sorry
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[00:41:19] <ron> http://www.stealthsettings.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/WindowsLiveWriter/ad36cc2fd6e5_8D5/geek%5B4%5D.jpg
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[03:11:48] <rewolf> how do i rebuild projects with eclipse? it seems to be running the same code
[03:14:18] <deSilva> rewolf: what language are you using?
[03:14:29] <rewolf> java
[03:14:47] <rewolf> java to load a webview
[03:15:12] <deSilva> hmm
[03:15:24] <deSilva> well, you can always try and clean the project and then build
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[03:16:41] <rewolf> what does clean mean btw?
[03:17:10] <rewolf> by the way
[03:18:13] <paulweb515_> rewolf: Project>Clean
[03:18:27] <rewolf> found it
[03:18:48] <airduster> best why to learn eclipse
[03:18:51] <airduster> is to use it everyday
[03:18:55] <airduster> for atleast 8 hrs a day :)
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[07:04:33] <rawbdor> hey does anyone here know the API to find out if there are any problems in the problem view? Or if any markers exist?
[07:06:54] <nitind> rawbdor: Yes, org.eclipse.core.resources.IResource.findMarkers(String, boolean, int)
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[07:08:00] <rawbdor> nitind,  thanks...
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[07:43:08] <nitind> rawbdor: The built-in marker types have their string type constants in IMarker itself.
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[08:51:55] <ronr_> something is messed up with one of my projects.
[08:55:50] <ronr_> my maven compiler insists that the JAVA_HOME points to the jre, even though it points to the jdk. o_O
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[09:27:21] * ronr_ sighs.
[09:27:29] <ronr_> maven manages the project dependencies.
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[09:27:42] <ronr_> the relevant projects are added as dependencies.
[09:27:58] <ronr_> yet it can't find the classes in those projects.
[09:28:07] <ronr_> it auto completes them, but complains it can't find them.
[09:28:09] <ronr_> o_O
[09:28:17] <FauxFaux> CLEEEAN
[09:28:23] <FauxFaux> m2eclipse or sane mode?
[09:28:35] <ronr_> I DID 100000000000000000000 CLEEAAAAAAAANz.
[09:28:43] <ronr_> m2e, of course.
[09:29:02] <ronr_> maybe I should do a complete clean of every single frakking thing.
[09:29:10] * ronr_ dives into cmd
[09:29:11] <FauxFaux> m2eclipse.  Invisible sympathy.
[09:29:53] * ronr_ waits
[09:30:07] <ronr_> okay, mvn clean is done.
[09:30:24] <ronr_> running it on the parent should be enough, right?
[09:31:18] <FauxFaux> You probably want shred -rf ~/eclipse/plugins/*m*2* && mvn clean eclipse:clean && mvn eclipse:eclipse too.
[09:31:30] <ronr_> windows, dude. windows.
[09:31:59] <FauxFaux> Basically the same idea.
[09:32:13] <ronr_> you want me to delete the m2e plugin? :)
[09:32:15] <FauxFaux> s/&&/&/; s/shred/deltree/ or whatever; s/~/%HOME%/
[09:32:25] <lemmy> Can I link the package explorer of one window to the editor of another window (multihead display)?
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[09:33:25] <ronr_> duh, the eclipse cache.
[09:33:30] <ronr_> wait, there's nothing m2e related there.
[09:33:47] <FauxFaux> I want everyone to stop pretending that maven ide integration works at all and to force the maven people to provide a non-terrible api.
[09:34:14] <ronr_> I want myself to get a real grasp of maven instead of just winging it.
[09:34:21] <ronr_> we can't always get what we want.
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[09:37:33] <FauxFaux> But if we try, we get what we neeeeeeeeed?
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[09:38:00] <ron> no. that's fiction. screw the stones.
[09:38:21] <ron> eclipse is building my workspace.
[09:38:25] * ron waits in anticipation.
[09:38:45] <ron> YAY!
[09:38:48] <ron> didn't help one bit.
[09:39:02] <ron> okay, windows installed updates, gotta reboot. maybe that'll help.
[09:39:14] <xea> goo dmorning, speaking of m2e, could somebody please give me some hint if war overlays are supported yet?
[09:40:02] <FauxFaux> Hahahahahahahahaahha war overlays, the bane of my life.
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[09:40:23] <xea> yeah mine too since yesterday
[09:40:48] <FauxFaux> In every single one of our projects, spring's dispatcherservlet goes entirely nuts as soon as you have overlays, and nobody can work out why.
[09:41:46] <xea> hm could you explain that a bit?
[09:42:17] <FauxFaux> Overlays break Spring MVC DispatcherServlet; nobody knows why.
[09:42:40] <FauxFaux> By "breaks" I mean it starts serving the wrong things, or refuses to serve things that worked before, or..
[09:42:49] <xea> oh god
[09:42:55] <xea> that doesnt sound well
[09:43:31] <FauxFaux> Work are actually paying me to sit here and do nothing, maybe I should testcase it.
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[09:44:15] <xea> haha :)
[09:45:02] <xea> so is there a workaround solution to have a shared maven module that contains all the jsp's and other static resources that can be used by other modules?
[09:45:18] <xea> (and may be used with eclipse wtp)
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[09:46:06] <FauxFaux> maven-jsp-compiler and ResourceServlet?
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[09:48:46] <xea> as i see it requires the modification of the web applications but it is not feasible here
[09:48:54] <ron> I'm back. everyone can relax.
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[10:05:06] <ron> HALLELUJAH!
[10:05:17] <ron> FauxFaux: thanks for the tips.
[10:05:37] <ron> now I can get back to my gwt woes.
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[10:33:59] <silare> Hey, I'm trying to set up CDT on Ubuntu using the package in Synaptic, but I don't know what I'm supposed to do after that. Anyone know how to set it up?
[10:37:30] <ron> ah yes, the black screen of death attacks again.
[10:37:46] <ron> silare: don't use the package in Synaptic.
[10:38:01] <ron> unless you *really* like pain and misery.
[10:38:18] <silare> ron: Oh geez. What should I get then? I'm more sadistic than masochistic.
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[10:38:44] <ron> I wonder if there's a factoid for that.
[10:38:46] <ron> ~download
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[10:38:48] <ron> ~downloads
[10:38:49] <Arbalest> Looking for a specific Eclipse version? - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#Where_can_I_get_Eclipse.3F - http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/ - http://archive.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/
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[10:39:11] <silare> ron: In other words, use the stock CDT from the site itself?
[10:39:12] <ron> basically, go to www.eclipse.org/downloads, and get your package from there.
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[10:39:19] <ron> 'stock'. pfft.
[10:39:29] <silare> Well, it's the one that came originally. NOt some deb.
[10:39:33] <silare> So it's the original.
[10:39:36] <ron> there's no difference between the 'stock' and the one in the repo.
[10:39:43] <silare> What's wrong with the repo one then, per se?
[10:39:46] <ron> oh wait, there is one difference.
[10:39:53] <ron> the one from the repo is 2(!!!!!) years old.
[10:40:14] <silare> On that note, my Eclipse is still Galileo, which is old... Is there a PPA or something for newer Eclipse releases?
[10:40:20] <ron> please keep in mind that tomorrow 3.7 is released, so if you can, you may want to hold off to it.
[10:40:31] <silare> ron: ...Indigo?
[10:40:32] <ron> of course it's Galileo. it's 2 years old.
[10:40:39] <ron> Yes, Indigo is released tomorrow.
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[10:41:38] <silare> ron: Hmm... Do yoyu suggest just downloading it from the site itself though, or is there a good repo for it (that isn't 2 years old)?
[10:41:56] <ron> I'm not familiar with any repo, but google is your friend.
[10:42:04] <ron> I see no problem downloading directly from the site.
[10:42:17] <silare> Been playing with it. But I can't find a repo (eclipse-team is 3.4).
[10:42:22] <silare> *Been playing with Google
[10:42:23] <ron> since eclipse manages its own updates, don't see the advantage of an 'official' installation.
[10:42:36] <silare> ron: Ah, so it'll autoupdate? (I haven't played with Eclipse much yet at this point.)
[10:42:51] <ron> you can set it to notify you on updates.
[10:43:18] <silare> ron: Hmm... In Prefs?
[10:43:28] <ron> yeah.
[10:44:43] <silare> In terms of downloading CDT, would it be Eclipse IDE for C/C++ Developers? Or should I do Eclipse Classic + CDT? I will do both Java and C development./
[10:45:41] <ron> if you need both Java and C then get either the one for Java devs or C/C++ devs and then add the other plugin.
[10:46:05] <silare> So for instance, Eclipse Classic + adding CDT plugin?
[10:46:21] <ron> no. don't get eclipse classic.
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[10:46:33] <silare> Why not? <.<
[10:47:08] <ron> because you need the java development as well, no?
[10:47:28] <ron> I dunno.
[10:47:32] <ron> I don't like the classic.
[10:47:53] <silare> Classic does Java, doesn't it?
[10:47:59] <ron> well, yeah.
[10:48:02] <ron> but I don't like it.
[10:48:08] <silare> No particular reason?
[10:48:19] <ron> well, it doesn't come with EMP installed :)
[10:48:27] <ron> of course it can be added, but still :p
[10:48:43] <ron> and it's much larger than the java ide.. not sure why.
[10:48:52] <ron> probably contains all sorts of unnecessary things.
[10:48:54] <FauxFaux> It ships source and other development crap.
[10:49:15] <silare> I never figured that out, actually... Classic is fatter. ._. EMP = Eclipse Modeling ______?
[10:49:18] <FauxFaux> It's the same thing you get from the adult download page, isn't it?
[10:49:21] <silare> *Project
[10:49:30] <silare> lolwhat/
[10:49:59] <ron> EMP = Eclipse Marketplace
[10:50:50] <silare> <insert obligatory App Store joke here> Basically though, it's a sort of repository of extensions, etc. for Eclipse, right?
[10:51:10] <ron> right. just makes it a little easier finding stuff you may be looking for.
[10:51:30] <silare> Avoiding looking up URLs for the Add New Software stuff?
[10:51:45] <ron> yes. does that for you.
[10:51:49] <ron> less google, more eclipse.
[10:51:49] <FauxFaux> Makes it easier to destroy your happiness with m2eclipse; no idea why ron likes it.
[10:52:12] <ron> m2e is evil on its own. got nothing to do with emp.
[10:53:05] <silare> For Maven?
[10:53:10] <ron> though now m2e has its own marketplace :)
[10:53:28] <FauxFaux> Eclipse Sadism Client.
[10:54:00] <ron> \o/
[10:54:08] <TomTom> you just cant handle it ;)
[10:54:43] <TomTom> killall eclipse is your friend with neverending "building workspaces" or indexupdates ;)=
[10:54:50] <TomTom> we love the m2plugin
[10:55:27] <TomTom> and its sad you missed all the earlier versions of m2plugin... even more fun B)
[10:55:31] <lemmy> You guys should channel your anger into a bug report ;)
[10:55:34] <ron> I like maven's Downloading-the-Internet (tm) phase.
[10:55:53] <ron> lemmy: what would be the bug title? m2e is crap?
[10:56:22] <lemmy> ron: I'm not married to mvn, but that's pretty much the reason of too coarse grained dependencies.
[10:56:48] <xea> you guys just made my day by making obvious not i'm the only one taking enormous amounts of damage from using m2eclipse :D
[10:56:50] <TomTom> maven is really a great thing, i will never ever live without something like maven, but the plugin is lets say sometimes very "bull-ride like"
[10:57:04] <FauxFaux> I'll just continue maintaining my shi^Wpredjudice list: 1) Non-Java languages, including mandroid.  2) Update client.  3) m2eclipse.  4) Weaving service.
[10:57:11] <TomTom> haha
[10:57:37] <TomTom> add the spring tools plugin and even M000r333 fun
[10:57:50] <TomTom> of course with autowiring extension B)
[10:57:52] <FauxFaux> Haven't actually tried that.
[10:57:58] <xea> ah and add the validation service too
[10:58:13] 
[10:58:26] <TomTom> this should be a regular performance test for eclipse :)
[10:58:44] <FauxFaux> 6) Mylyn.
[10:59:05] <xea> mylyn is a part of eclipse that i am satisfied with (so far)
[10:59:09] <ualtin> Hi is there a shortcut to switch to e.g. The PackageExplorer
[10:59:15] <FauxFaux> alt+shift q, p
[10:59:42] <FauxFaux> xea: Turning off focused proposals makes ctrl+space completion about a billion times faster, even if you're not using mlyn.
[10:59:44] <ron> sorry, was away for a couple of minutes.
[10:59:48] <ualtin> FauxFaux, thank you
[10:59:49] <FauxFaux> Not using it at all.
[10:59:54] <FauxFaux> As in, it's disabled, and it still ruins your day.
[11:00:13] <xea> FauxFaux: oh yeah, you just dug up painful memories
[11:00:42] <ualtin> FauxFaux, I can not see the JUnit view in that shortcut.. can I configure that?
[11:00:54] <FauxFaux> ualtin: Window -> preferences -> keys -> search.
[11:01:03] <ron> frak
[11:01:18] <ron> it's like there's no way to get it all to play together.
[11:01:26] <ron> fix one things, something else screws up
[11:02:00] <ron> Caused by: java.lang.Error: Unresolved compilation problems: <-- how the hell do I get that in runtime?
[11:02:18] <FauxFaux> Trivially?
[11:02:28] <FauxFaux> If you ignore the "your code doesn't compile" errors you get that all the time.
[11:02:38] <ron> right. no such errors.
[11:02:51] <ron> not _that_ daft.
[11:02:53] <FauxFaux> m2eclipse has probably forgotten to build your code.
[11:02:55] <ron> a little, sure. but that's too much.
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[11:18:34] <ron> I'm starting to believe that maven is the source of all evil.
[11:18:43] <FauxFaux> s/aven/2e/
[11:19:13] <ron> but I work it all from commandline.
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[11:20:21] <FauxFaux> jarr() { jar tf $1 | tee o && grep '[wj]ar$' o | while read f; do [ ! -e $f ] && jar xf $1 $f && jar tf $f && rm $f; done } # is useful.
[11:20:29] <ron> WAR! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing!
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[11:20:38] <ron> FauxFaux: on linux, sure.
[11:20:50] <FauxFaux> s/linux/posixish/
[11:21:04] 
[11:21:05] * ron glares at FauxFaux
[11:23:03] <ron> gwt compilation takes infinity, and then some.
[11:23:25] <ron> Damn, I'm hungry.
[11:24:27] <FauxFaux> I warned you.
[11:24:42] <ron> about?
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[11:29:24] <FauxFaux> Gwt.
[11:30:19] <ron> You did?
[11:30:29] <ron> I don't really listen to you, you know.
[11:30:40] <FauxFaux> That makes it even easier for me to claim things.
[11:30:50] <ron> that's true.
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[13:23:12] <ron> got it to work, no idea how.
[13:23:17] <ron> onwards to the next problem.
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[13:24:13] <FauxFaux> I told you there'd be more problems.
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[13:26:53] <ron> No, you didn't.
[13:27:01] <ron> this time I listened ;)
[13:27:08] <ciphergoth> Helios under x64 Natty; running jetty:run Maven target in debugger, and trying to step through source code of dependency with debugger.
[13:27:39] <ron> that's a nice little story.
[13:27:41] <ciphergoth> I can see the source in one window, but when it hits the breakpoint, it opens a new window saying "Source not found. Edit Source Lookup Path..."
[13:28:12] <ciphergoth> If I go to edit the lookup path, the source jar is on there.  I press OK, the source *briefly* appears in that window, and is then replaced by the "Source not found" message again.
[13:28:17] <ciphergoth> Whiskey tango foxtrot?
[13:28:26] <FauxFaux> Using m2eclipse?
[13:28:38] <ciphergoth> FauxFaux: yes
[13:28:54] <ron> uh oh
[13:28:59] <FauxFaux> Thanks for playing.
[13:29:03] * ron grins
[13:29:09] <ciphergoth> *siiiiiiiiiiiiigh*
[13:29:23] <ciphergoth> Eclipse + Maven should hardly be off-the-beaten-path!
[13:29:27] <ron> great.
[13:29:30] <ron> eclipse broke down.
[13:29:37] <ciphergoth> I should be using the other Maven plugin?
[13:29:37] <ron> use intellij.
[13:29:51] <ciphergoth> ron: not really the right answer on this channel, is it?
[13:29:55] <TomTom> the "other maven plugin" ?
[13:30:02] <ron> oh, sorry, not eclipse broke down.
[13:30:06] <ron> google broke down.
[13:30:10] <ron> ciphergoth: of course it is.
[13:30:17] <ron> brings out lots of peace and quiet.
[13:31:03] <FauxFaux> Intellij's maven support is just as bad.
[13:31:23] <ron> the intellij users swear by it.
[13:31:29] <ron> I just swear it.
[13:31:32] <FauxFaux> The intellij users sit inside their rose-tinted bubble and believe otherwise, but I know.
[13:32:38] * ron shrugs
[13:32:44] <ron> I have nothing against intellij.
[13:32:50] <ron> got nothing going for it either.
[13:32:58] <ron> never used it. not planning to use it.
[13:34:01] <xea> intellij has a great vim plugin
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[13:34:27] <xea> if i ever going to switch to idea, the biggest reason will be this
[13:34:45] * ron sighs.
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[13:35:54] <ciphergoth> In the absence of useful advice, I'm trying the other plugin: http://code.google.com/p/q4e/
[13:36:37] <xea> try this instead http://www.eclipse.org/iam/
[13:36:43] <xea> The IAM project is the continuation of Q for Eclipse. Many resources are still only available at the Q4E website.
[13:37:20] <ron> ooh
[13:37:23] <ron> an alternative
[13:39:00] <ron> bah, it's quite inactive.
[13:39:30] <xea> yeah kinda
[13:40:04] <ciphergoth> oh well looks like I got the latest version
[13:41:27] <ciphergoth> but it's pretty broken. *sigh*
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[13:51:55] <ualtin> uhm, is there a way to switch perspektives by shortcuts
[13:52:10] <ron> yes.
[13:52:34] <ualtin> cool thx
[13:53:05] <ron> hmpf. I keep opening the wrong eclipse instance.
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[14:47:18] <CircleCode> Hi
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[14:47:47] <CircleCode> I'd like to have some help on xml validation
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[14:48:36] <CircleCode> I have this doctype definition: <!DOCTYPE window [
[14:48:38] <CircleCode> <!ENTITY % mainDTD SYSTEM "chrome://dcpoffline/locale/main.dtd" >
[14:48:39] <CircleCode> %mainDTD;
[14:48:41] <CircleCode> ]>
[14:48:55] <CircleCode> And it seems eclipse does not like the unknown chrome protocol...
[14:49:05] <CircleCode> can I ignore this dtd?
[14:49:37] <CircleCode> so that eclipse makes validation by using xmlns tag
[14:49:41] <CircleCode> ?
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[15:46:32] <Trudko> guys I am looking for spell check plugin to eclipse I need view with all spelling errors in project
[15:47:18] <xea> doesn't eclipse come with that feature?
[15:47:31] <xea> (preferences/general/editors/text editors/spelling
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[15:49:03] <Trudko> xea it doesnt have one view for all spell. errors and thats useless. I have existing project and I need to check errors in it.
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[15:50:17] <xea> that may be true but you can filter the problems view to show only the spelling errors
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[15:56:42] <Trudko> xea cool idea will check that
[15:59:15] <Trudko> xea you mean in markers view?
[16:05:05] <xea> yes, markers or problems view
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[16:24:52] <Trudko> xea:  i do not see spell check errors there hmm
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[16:26:55] <xea> hm for some reason i remembered that spelling errors are listed there too
[16:28:08] <ron> FauxFaux: I need something cool to take a complex pojo and translate it to a simple dto! (and back)
[16:28:37] <FauxFaux> What's the difference between those tow things in your head?
[16:29:43] <ron> well, let's say I define a comparator for the pojo, I don't need that in the dto.
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[16:31:08] <ron> do I make any sense?
[16:31:51] <FauxFaux> You want to extract interface just the getters?
[16:32:11] <ron> and setters.
[16:32:30] <FauxFaux> Okay.
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[16:33:05] <ron> I really don't want to use interfaces for it though. I'd rather have a proxy object that's hopefully automatically generated.
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[16:38:22] <ron> am I being mocked silently? :)
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[16:39:40] <FauxFaux> Actually I was working (no, really).
[16:39:49] <ron> hehe, fair enough.
[16:39:51] <FauxFaux> I do strongly disagree with your request, though.
[16:40:02] <ron> explain, please?
[16:40:47] <FauxFaux> You appear to want an implementation of an interface that looks exactly like what you have at the moment, except isn't.
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[16:41:50] <juank_prada> hi guys, I'm using Mylyng to sync my bugs from a bugzilla account but when i try to submit a change to a bug i get an error
[16:42:06] <juank_prada> it just says: An unknown repository error has occurred: match failed
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[16:42:25] <ron> FauxFaux: I need a stripped down version of... oh wait.
[16:42:41] <timotei> I am wondering, how can I install jdt.ui source in my eclipse?
[16:42:50] <timotei> I can't seem to find it in the update system
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[16:54:01] <timotei> also, if I "CTRL+T" and enter a JDT type, it won't be able to find it :(
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[16:56:35] <timotei> oh. it seems that the ecilipse SDK contains them
[16:56:36] <timotei> thanks
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[17:03:40] <timotei> oh. ok, so I have: org.eclipse.jdt.ui.source_3.6.2.r362_v20110203.jar
[17:03:51] <timotei> but I can't find/browse the files from within eclipse
[17:03:52] <timotei> any clue?
[17:05:00] <lemmy> Hmm, Google recruiter apparently scan Github. %)
[17:05:57] <lemmy> One of the advantages working in FOSS.
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[17:07:10] <rcjsuen> That's kind of an odd place to farm for talent but I guess whatever works
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[17:07:44] <timotei> weird, and when trying for Eclipse's built-in classes, they work
[17:07:52] <timotei> I'm wondering why jdt source doesn't :(
[17:07:53] <rcjsuen> "built-in"?
[17:08:07] <timotei> well, IProject, Project
[17:08:19] <timotei> CommonNavigator, et al
[17:08:40] <rcjsuen> Not clear to me how you are drawing this line here.
[17:08:58] <rcjsuen> open type depends on the classpath of all opened projects in the current workspace
[17:09:02] <timotei> oh
[17:09:25] <timotei> I'm so stupid
[17:09:30] <timotei> didn't know that
[17:09:37] <timotei> is there an "open type" for outers too?
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[17:11:04] <rcjsuen> ~findclass
[17:11:04] <Arbalest> Looking for a particular class in the Eclipse APIs? http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_How_do_I_find_a_particular_class_from_an_Eclipse_plug-in%3F
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[17:12:37] <lemmy> rcjsuen: Or Github is selling profiles.
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[17:12:50] <timotei> rcjsuen: thanks a lot!
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[17:13:52] <rcjsuen> well, whether you farm manually or it's given to you, it still seems kind of odd to me
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[17:15:52] <lemmy> rcjsuen: don't know how it works, but employers might use a service that accumulates different channels for them.
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[17:16:28] <lemmy> All I can say is that they contacted me on my Github mail address.
[17:17:55] <lemmy> or it's a fake ;)
[17:18:00] <rcjsuen> I've only been contacted thru LinkedIn...but that's kind of what LinkedIn is for :)
[17:18:35] <lemmy> rcjsuen: I received a copy on my Xing address too.
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[17:21:15] <baedert> plugin dev: I'm currently using only one console for all builds together, but I'd like to use getInputStream() to write something to the console. however, MesageConsole doesn't support this, so what else should I use?
[17:23:03] <rcjsuen> Perhaps you should check the getInputStream() API
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[17:52:10] <lemmy> Am I right that NNTP forums need a password even for read only access?
[17:52:30] <lemmy> I'm currently blocked by a firewall.
[17:52:44] <rcjsuen> forums should be readable w/o password
[17:52:46] <rcjsuen> i dunno about nntp
[17:52:52] <rcjsuen> cuz there used to be public archives
[17:53:01] <rcjsuen> but the public archives got removed since the forums went up
[17:53:01] <rcjsuen> i think
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[17:54:13] <nitind> lemmy: Yes.
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[18:01:15] <t3rmInAt0r_> hello guys, has anyone used eclipse with MPI C++ ?
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[18:03:05] <ftc> I certainly like eclipse for java but to be honest i was never a huge fan of the C++ functionality, but its been a while since I tried it...
[18:03:19] <ftc> never tried MPI in it though
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[18:32:33] <juank_prada> can somone help me with a mylyn issue?... im not able to submit changes to a bug from Bugzilla. but i can query and see bugs. What is causing this?
[18:36:21] <lemmy> juank_prada: Your credentials might be gone.
[18:36:33] <lemmy> ... and mylyn cannot authenticate to submit changes.
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[18:37:14] <juank_prada> lemmy: what do you mean by gone?... as I said, i can connect to bugzilla and make queries and see the bugs. only thing i can't do is submit changes
[18:38:31] <lemmy> juank_prada: Happens to me regularly. Mylyn tends to forget your username and password and thus connects to bugzilla as anonymous. So unless your bugzilla instance does allow anonymous access, it's worth checking the repository settings.
[18:40:59] <juank_prada> lemmy: i get this error from mylyn after pressing "submit" button -> Submit Failed: An unknown repository error has occurred: internal error
[18:41:43] <juank_prada> if I click on the error it shows a not so well formed bugzilla page with this message in red: A legal Resolution was not set.
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[18:42:03] <juank_prada> but then I'm setting the resolution to one i created at bugzilla
[18:42:16] <juank_prada> which means its synchronizing fine
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[18:48:53] <juank_prada> anyone?
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[19:17:37] <fossconn> I bind F2 to commit
[19:17:38] <fossconn> I press F2
[19:17:42] <fossconn> nothing happens
[19:18:26] <fossconn> svn commit
[19:18:55] <rcjsuen> that bug sounds vaguely familiar
[19:18:57] <rcjsuen> check bugzilla
[19:19:22] <fossconn> here http://img1.uploadscreenshot.com/images/orig/6/17113203548-orig.png
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[19:20:35] <fossconn> keywords for bugzilla?
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[19:21:10] <fossconn> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=309074
[19:21:12] <fossconn> this?
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[19:21:44] <fossconn> I'm not sure bugzilla helps me much, I'm not sure how to search it
[19:22:02] <rcjsuen> that bug looks like the one i'm thinking of
[19:23:07] <fossconn> oh great
[19:23:08] <fossconn> :<
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[19:23:19] <fossconn> well thanks
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[19:46:25] <jpitts> is this an appropriate forum for questions re: egit?
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[19:46:42] <ron> sure
[19:46:46] <jpitts> k.
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[19:47:02] <Trudko> guys I have two object of same class and I want to quicklz compare each other netx to each other. I want to compare their vaules...
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[19:47:33] <Trudko> normally I have both objects under each other in debug view and obviously it is hard to compare values if they are under each other
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[19:49:23] <jpitts> I have an eclipse workspace defined over a git repo, and today needed to do some heavy refactoring / moving java files between projects. i see in the egit docs instructions for importing projects from a repo into an empty workspace, but I am not sure how i should deal with having an already populated workspace and "adding" egit to the mix. what is the correct way to configure egit to manage this repository/workspace?
[19:49:40] <jpitts> ( that wasnt clear. i installed egit today )
[19:50:00] <ron> your workspace already contains git-managed projects?
[19:50:14] <jpitts> ron: correct
[19:50:20] <jpitts> before i installed egit
[19:50:48] <ron> that's not a problem.
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[19:51:04] <ron> right click on one of the projects (just to show you how it's done)
[19:51:11] <ron> go to Team->Share Project
[19:51:29] <jpitts> ahh.
[19:51:29] <ron> choose git
[19:51:34] <ron> next
[19:51:41] <jpitts> i have to do this for each project, eh?
[19:51:43] <ron> check the top checkbox
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[19:51:48] <ron> and you're done
[19:52:00] <jpitts> this is going to be painful.
[19:52:01] <ron> right, but you can highlight all the projects and do it for them all together.
[19:52:05] <jpitts> ok good.
[19:52:33] <ron> as long as you check the top checkbox, it'll automatically match the relevant .git for each project.
[19:53:07] <jpitts> and i see it is preselecting the top one by default.
[19:53:17] <jpitts> which also makes me happy.
[19:53:20] <ron> :)
[19:53:50] <ron> once you share the projects, you should see the decorations telling you which files are stored in git, which are new, which are dirty and so on.
[19:53:57] <jpitts> apologies. i remember the team->share command from olden days of svn. its passed out of my forebrain.
[19:53:57] <ron> fairly simple.
[19:54:07] <ron> no worries.
[19:54:26] <ron> that's what they pay me for, anyhow.
[19:54:41] <jpitts> the decorations arent terribly important to me. my primary use case is to have egit manage the refactoring moves for me.
[19:55:21] * ron nods.
[19:55:47] <ron> I've grown to like egit.
[19:55:57] <ron> grown to hate git too.
[19:55:59] <ron> :)
[19:56:31] <jpitts> i got really turned off of ide-based source control a couple years ago, but that may be SVNs fault.
[19:57:25] <ron> I've used subclipse for about a year and didn't suffer much.
[19:58:39] <jpitts> in any case, thank you very much
[19:59:18] <ron> np
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[20:05:14] <jpitts> i do like at a high level seeing which branch I'm in.
[20:05:50] <ron> you can add/change that info, afaik.
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[20:36:05] <juank_prada> when is Indigo being released?
[20:36:22] <rcjsuen> GA tomorrow
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[20:41:55] <juank_prada> rcjsuen: torrents are already available?
[20:42:03] <rcjsuen> I think so.
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[20:48:50] <abhatnag> juank_prada: I think only for friends of eclipse
[20:49:42] <rcjsuen> http://build.eclipse.org/technology/phoenix/torrents/indigo/
[20:49:51] <rcjsuen> knock yourself out
[20:50:08] <juank_prada> yup im already downloading it
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[21:06:03] <briandealwis> Anybody know if Firefox 5 works with the SWT Browser on Windows?  Or what's the latest version of Firefox that works with SWT from 3.6?
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[21:15:21] <nitind> I think you just volunteered to find out.
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[21:17:13] <ron> \o/
[21:17:36] <ron> I'd check with FF6, but I have no idea what SWT Browser is.
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[21:37:19] <briandealwis> So the answer: SWT only works with XulRunner 1.9.2.18 and not 2.0 or 5.0
[21:37:30] <nitind> What happened to 3 and 4?
[21:37:50] <FauxFaux> I imagine it caught up with the firefox version numbers; thunderbird did a similar jump.
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[21:50:13] <rcjsuen> briandealwis: yeah, they don't have any plans for supporting 2.x and up afaik
[21:50:39] <briandealwis> rcjsuen: given the pain to configure, I don't blame them!
[21:51:14] <paulweb515_> instead we'll play with webkit versions instead :-)
[21:51:23] <paulweb515_> uh, I doubled that up intentionally
[21:51:25] <ron> :(
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[22:12:19] <pulse00> hi all. is there a way to get the version of a specific plugin during runtime?
[22:12:39] <nitind> When's that useful?
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[22:18:29] <paulweb515_> pulse00: you want to know the version of one of your bundles?
[22:18:41] <nitind> pulse00: I assume you can do a Platform.getBundle() and then ask it for its Version.
[22:18:52] <juank_prada> where can i get support on Mylyn?
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[22:20:22] <paulweb515_> pulse00: use org.osgi.framework.Bundle.getHeaders()
[22:21:07] <paulweb515_> pulse00: and org.osgi.framework.Constants.BUNDLE_VERSION
[22:21:09] <pulse00> thanks a lot
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[22:36:59] <nitind> paulweb515_: We don't like Bundle#getVersion() ?
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[22:42:47] <paulweb515_> nitind: I forgot about that ...
[22:45:40] <juank_prada> i keep getting the error "You cannot set a resolution for open bugs." from mylyn when submitting a change to a bug in Bugzilla, what might be causing that?
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[22:54:53] <kesselhaus> someone seen this strange behaviour of 3.7RC4? i have opened eclipse with a D:\workspace (which is also the only shown in the preferences), but when i close eclipse and later start again, it uses some workspace whereever that is located, probably in C:\User\<my_profile>\workspace
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[22:56:04] <ron> this would be an awesome time to discover a critical bug in indigo.
[22:56:20] <nitind> juank_prada: Who's Bugzilla?
[22:56:38] <nitind> kesselhaus: How are you opening it?
[22:56:54] <juank_prada> nitind: seriously?
[22:57:08] <kesselhaus> i go to the eclipse directory and doubleclick on eclipse.exe
[22:57:43] <nitind> juank_prada: Yes.  Mylyn doesn't just connect to *ours*.
[22:58:30] <juank_prada> nitind: sorry buddy, i don't understand.... you just asked me who was Bugzilla....
[22:58:44] <ron> whose. whose, damnit.
[22:59:09] <briandealwis> juank_prada: I think he means: which bugzilla tracker are you connecting to?  Some may have additional rules defined.
[22:59:12] * ron gets cranky when he's tired.
[22:59:34] <juank_prada> oh, got it
[22:59:55] <ron> sorry for being harsh.
[22:59:55] <juank_prada> nitind: its my company's bugzilla installation, an internal one
[23:01:05] <nitind> juank_prada: I think you'll have to check with the Mylyn ~forums or file a bug.  Assuming whatever configuration Mylyn required was done correctly.
[23:01:05] <Arbalest> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/
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[23:02:14] <juank_prada> nitind: is there a particular configuration required?
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[23:03:01] <nitind> juank_prada: *shrug* I never use Mylyn.  But I imagine it has to know your schema to make the right calls.
[23:03:17] <nitind> And I know that can differ between installations.
[23:03:28] <Hamled> I tried to install the vimplugin plugin by just putting its jar file in the plugins directory of my eclipse install (on Windows), and though the plugins.xml file in there clearly shows it defining the editor and preferences classes, Eclipse says that it cannot find them
[23:03:36] <Hamled> Is there something else that I should be doign?
[23:04:11] <juank_prada> nitind: ok, thank you
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[23:16:26] <juank_prada> ok I'm really annoyed with this bugzilla mylyn issue
[23:17:47] <kesselhaus> oh, btw. i guess the colors of views (like project explorer or outline) can not be changed that easily?
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[23:40:07] <paulweb515_> Hamled: you need to use Help>Install New Software and use their update site.  If they didn't provide one, put it in eclipse/dropins and restart with -clean
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[23:46:16] <Hamled> paulweb515_, thanks
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