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[00:04:49] <acron17> hi there! i use the the junit plugin to generate test cases. i wonder if there is a way to "update" a test case
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[00:33:36] <mk> any way to mark which methods will be inlined upon compilation?
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[00:48:07] <paulweb515_> mk: don't they have to at least be final methods or static methods?
[00:51:04] <acron17> in the install new software window the main view is empty and remains empty...
[00:51:59] <acron17> for example if i type to search for cdt is see its description in the "Details" but the main view (the list of plugins) is empty
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[00:55:22] <acron17> see an image of the weird behavior here: http://postimage.org/image/12zzbeszo/
[00:57:07] <acron17> installing new software was working with that eclipse installation before. any ideas? (i restarted eclipse already but without luck)
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[01:00:50] <mk> paulweb515_: I think final, though the java vm can inline non-final
[01:01:09] <mk> the thing is, the eclipse debugger does the compilation
[01:01:14] <paulweb515_> mk: but that's the JIT, and that's usually unrolling loops and stuff
[01:02:14] <mk> if you're in the middle of an infinite for loop, inner methods never take effect unless they're in another class, or are static
[01:03:01] <mk> and if you change a value while debug is paused, it goes to the top of the true method (it won't go to the top of the current method, if current has been inlined)
[01:03:49] <mk> I want to make sure that a certain get method gets inlined, but I have no idea if it is or not
[01:04:05] <mk> but eclipse knows. So I'm wondering if there's a way for it to tell me.
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[01:13:57] <paulweb515_> mk: I've never seen any functionality like that.  maybe that information is being returned through the debugging protocol to the eclipse debugger, or maybe the protocol allows for "send a step back" and the JVM says "OK, you're at instruction X now"
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[01:15:20] <mk> alright. Too bad that it's not available
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[01:20:19] <acron17> has anyone an idea why the plugin view inside Install new software stays empty on my computer while there are plugins which should be displayed?
[01:20:47] <paulweb515_> acron17: there's a plugin view inside "Install New Software"?
[01:22:28] <acron17> paulweb515: i meant the view that displays a list of plugins matching your search or all with an empty search. like seen on this screenshot in the center of the window: http://postimage.org/image/12zzbeszo/
[01:22:44] <acron17> paulweb515: how do you call that view?
[01:29:58] <paulweb515_> acron17: it'
[01:30:05] <paulweb515_> acron17: it's a list of features available, not plugins
[01:30:24] <paulweb515_> strange that all of your sites can't find CDT, but try C++ instead
[01:32:17] <acron17> paulweb515: cdt is there. it's just an example, the list stays empty on any search (including an empty search), but i can "navigate" through it using the cursor keys. i can see the details text changing
[01:32:48] <paulweb515_> acron17: are you on linux?  what version of the SDK do you have?
[01:34:12] <acron17> yes i'm on linux. i just upgraded it to 6.24 and rebooted
[01:35:14] <acron17> paulweb515: why do you ask about linux? are similar problems known on linux?
[01:37:58] <paulweb515_> acron17: there can be clipping problems with certain parts of 3.7/4.1  In my case the clipping problem is solved with "GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1 eclipse/eclipse ...."
[01:38:14] <paulweb515_> acron17: try re-launching with that, see if it helps
[01:41:30] <acron17> paulweb515: thanks for the hint, unfortunately it doesn't help :-/
[01:42:04] <paulweb515_> acron17: OK, that's a different problem then
[01:47:12] <acron17> the problem is somehow related to the workspace i use. if i use another one, the problem does not occur
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[01:52:31] <acron17> what happens if a workspace gets corrupted? is there a way to check and repair it?
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[02:02:20] <rcjsuen> workspace is...a lot of stuff, i guess it would depend on what is corrupted
[02:02:44] <rcjsuen> but no there's not like a tool that'll just randomly scan metadata looking for corruption, not that i know of anyway
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[02:14:19] <baedert> hey, I created a custom editor, now I want to compile those files. What do I need? I already have a builder and a nature. google just shows unrelated entries
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[02:19:42] <rcjsuen> builders is what you want
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[02:35:25] <acron17> ok, removing an importing my projects solved my issue
[02:37:36] <acron17> removing .metadata i wanted to say
[02:46:40] <acron17> i asked that before, maybe now someone is online which can help me:  i use the the junit plugin to generate test cases. i wonder if there is a way to "update" a test case?
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[02:47:42] <nbf> baedert: IncrementalProjectBuilder
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[02:50:10] <baedert> yep, I use that one already. I'll have a look at that tomorrow, I'm facing a much bigger problem now :)
[02:52:53] <nbf> :(
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[03:00:53] <baedert> I get these exceptions when trying to start my plugin: http://pastebin.com/LZU5dpqs . the id "vala_plugin.editors.ValaEditor" isn't defined anywhere though
[03:02:47] <nbf> it should be defined in an extension id
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[03:03:51] <baedert> I let eclipse search through my plugin.xml, but nothing
[03:05:10] <nbf> well you probably need to define it ;)
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[03:05:44] <nbf> are you forgetting to call super.createPartControl?
[03:06:08] <nbf> wait my bad :)
[03:06:19] <nbf> I have a common editor class that I was looking ;)
[03:06:20] <nbf> hmm
[03:06:34] <rcjsuen> Are you actually working on the Vala editor or are you just trying to open it?
[03:06:44] <rcjsuen> I think we should establish that first.
[03:07:10] <nbf> he's working on a vala editor
[03:07:17] <nbf> for your extension point (   <extension
[03:07:18] <nbf>          point="org.eclipse.ui.editors">)
[03:07:40] <nbf> do you have an id attribute in your <editor> tag?
[03:07:55] <nbf> I was chatting with him about this in another channel :)
[03:07:57] <baedert> yep, says vala_plugin.vala_editor
[03:08:10] <baedert> actually, that missing id also isn't in my java code :)
[03:09:54] <baedert> hmm, think I got it
[03:10:00] <nbf> what was it?
[03:11:58] <baedert> no idea, I just deleted the runtime-EclipseApplication folder :)
[03:12:25] <nbf> in the future, you can just clean the workspace in the run config
[03:12:39] <nbf> there's an option on the first page by the run config name area
[03:13:20] <baedert> ok, I'll try to remember that, thanks :>
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[03:22:53] <BullShark> has anybody used Saros?
[03:23:03] <BullShark> http://www.saros-project.org/
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[03:33:25] <BullShark> bid, hi
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[08:39:15] <ron> this is uber frustrating.
[08:41:44] <ron> http://prntscr.com/23d6i o_O
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[10:10:34] <dageriv> Where is the setting to enable "syntax check", on save?
[10:10:44] <dageriv> Right now, I have to click build before I see errors.
[10:10:49] <dageriv> (eclipse/CDT)
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[10:46:07] <ron> dageriv: I don't use CDT but go to Window->Preferences, in the filter box type 'save', see what comes up.
[10:46:45] <dageriv> I found it
[10:46:55] <dageriv> it was a checkbox in the preferances
[10:47:11] <dageriv> but it was so hard to find, that i cant find it again
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[10:47:43] <ron> that's why you should use the filter box.
[10:48:35] <aaairc> hello all. when i import a project into my workspace in eclipse, do i want to copy the files? if i do do a copy, when i make changes will it only affect the copy that was imported and not the original file system that i imported? i don't really get why you would want to copy the files, versus just move them completely into the eclipse workspace
[10:49:15] <aaairc> original file system... meaning the existing project
[10:49:27] <aaairc> sorry if this is very basic but i'm using eclipse for the first time...
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[10:55:18] <ron> well, your question is a bit vague. normally if you create a project (for yourself only), you'd hold all the files in the workspace.
[10:55:29] <ron> however, there are situations where you wouldn't do that.
[10:56:08] <aaairc> ron: ok i think i'm good
[10:56:15] <aaairc> ron: thx
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[13:47:31] <PhilipW> Hey, I am running Eclipse on Win 7 64 bits. It seems that my keyboard settings are incorrected, however in other apps, like mirc, they are ok. Any ideas?
[13:48:17] <ron> define'incorrect'.
[13:48:55] <PhilipW> well, the < button gives me ; instead in eclipse
[13:49:14] <PhilipW> i was searching for something like a language bar
[13:49:26] <PhilipW> but in win7 I cannot seem to find it
[13:49:41] <rcjsuen> Do you get that problem in Eclipse dialogs also?
[13:49:43] <rcjsuen> Or just the text editor?
[13:50:31] <PhilipW> Dialogs also, Open file for example
[13:51:06] <ron> right click on the windows task bar->toolbars->language bar
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[13:52:31] <PhilipW> Ron, I tried that, because I remembered it from XP, but I don't have the language bar under toolbars
[13:52:38] <PhilipW> but seems like a win7 related problem
[13:52:48] <PhilipW> i'll try some more googling
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[13:54:24] <ron> PhilipW: on the windows start search type 'region and language' and choose it. go to the keyboards and languages tab and click 'change keyboards' to see the settings.
[13:57:52] <PhilipW> ah
[13:57:59] <PhilipW> didn't help me at first
[13:58:26] <PhilipW> but now I added the language toolbar to the windows taskbar
[13:58:27] <PhilipW> thanks
[13:58:33] <ron> np
[13:59:09] <PhilipW> game of thrones time!
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[14:51:33] <archetype> hi, i seem to have a problem with  x64 helios sr2 (sr1 as well) and memory monitors on a ubuntu linux 11.04 64bit. It does not seem to be able to load the address although same address is in the variable list
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[14:54:24] <archetype> forgot to mention that i am referring to eclipse IDE for C/C++ linux developers. Anyone else has this problem?
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[15:06:00] <ron> archetype: you may have better luck with the ~forums
[15:06:01] <Arbalest> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/
[15:09:52] <archetype> thanks ron. Searched a bit over at forums/bugzilla but did not find anything. Will start a thread there. Thank you
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[16:24:11] <eshan> help : i have launch external launcher using IEditorLauncher . (when a specific file opens from eclipse) . But that file has not open in eclipse  editor ? only it opens in external editor (separate swing application )
[16:24:39] <eshan> is there a way to open that file in eclipse s well ? most probably in xml editor
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[17:12:27] <acron17> hi there! how can i change the default generated code for getter/setters?
[17:12:54] <acron17> i changed that once but needed to delete my .metadata and cannot find the correct preference setting
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[17:18:31] <paulweb515_> Preferences>Java>Code Style>Code Templates
[17:18:36] <paulweb515_> acron17: ^^
[17:18:37] <paulweb515_> bbiab
[17:20:17] <acron17> paulweb515: but there can only the getter/setter body be modified. i want the signature to be changed
[17:21:37] <acron17> in my project private members start with an underscore followed by a lowercase name and i want the getter/setters to omit the underscore and use the capatalized name
[17:22:14] <acron17> like: class A { private int _a; public int getA(){ return _a; }
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[17:22:48] <acron17> i manged to change some settings to achieve this, but as i said i needed to remove the .metadata
[17:24:00] <acron17> i also have a backup of the workspace and imported the Code style > Formatter from there...
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[17:25:49] <acron17> i *think* i remember that i needed to change to template for (private) members and the template for getter/setters names but i dont find them
[17:31:26] <acron17> ok, just found it: Java > Code Style: Fields, Edit, Prefix: _
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[17:47:53] <raven> Hey guys, got 3.6.2 on F15 - and it keeps crashing every 2 minutes
[17:49:07] <raven> Not sure if it's the new Gnome 3, the new GTK lib or myself being incompatible but it's killing me
[17:49:10] <raven> Any ideas?
[17:50:00] <ron> java version?
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[18:53:34] <baedert_> http://pastebin.com/nSHQ3Lxh in line 4, I declare my Builder, which is assigned to my Nature in line 52. But when I go into the project preferences of a project with that nature attached, I see no Builder. any reason for that?
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[18:58:44] <spydon> Hey, does anyone know why some of my tabs with code jumps in and out of some read only mode? The text on the tab gets grayed out and you can't write...
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[20:56:05] <potty> hi eclipse people...
[20:56:27] <potty> I'm really interested in participate as committer of the project.  Where should I start?
[20:56:47] <heinz> producing code?
[20:59:05] <potty> yeah
[20:59:24] <ron> heinz wasn't asking ;)
[20:59:37] <potty> but any idea of which project or how do i join a project?
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[21:00:02] <Dessimat0r> I made a game development IDE using Eclipse for the BBC, but they decided they didn't want it due to the financial recession
[21:00:02] <ron> well, the eclipse foundation has many projects.
[21:00:28] <ron> have you given any thought as to which one you'd want to contribute to?
[21:00:40] <potty> i want to join some project related to java
[21:00:52] <potty> no matter if it is web, desktop or mobile development
[21:01:29] <ron> still many possible projects.
[21:02:01] <ron> http://www.eclipse.org/projects/listofprojects.php
[21:02:03] <potty> well... web development then
[21:02:05] <potty> :)
[21:02:09] <potty> java web development
[21:02:46] <ron> ask rcjsuen ;)
[21:03:10] <potty> rcjsuen, hello may you help me with my issue?
[21:03:37] <potty> ron, but in general... is it difficult to join a project?
[21:03:46] <ron> I wouldn't know.
[21:04:03] <ron> normally becoming a comitter takes time.
[21:04:10] <ron> becoming a contributer is easier.
[21:04:30] <ron> basically, you can look at the opened ~bugs and offer patches to solve them.
[21:04:30] <Arbalest> Eclipse Bugzilla - Open new bug reports and/or enhancement requests https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi / Search for existing bugs and/or enhancement requests https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/query.cgi
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[21:05:23] <potty> I understand ron.  So I have to begin as contributer!
[21:05:47] <ron> right. nobody's going to let you commit code before you prove yourself.
[21:06:18] <ron> or rather, if they do let you commit code before you prove yourself, it's a crappy project and you should run for your life.
[21:06:46] <potty> i get it :)
[21:07:02] <potty> and now i change my question...
[21:07:10] <potty> how do i contribute to the project?
[21:07:21] <ron> and you should be open for criticism. you'll get much of it.
[21:07:30] <potty> that's no problem :)
[21:07:55] <ron> like I said, start by looking at ~bugs - discuss ideas how they should be solved and then offer a patch.
[21:07:55] <Arbalest> Eclipse Bugzilla - Open new bug reports and/or enhancement requests https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi / Search for existing bugs and/or enhancement requests https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/query.cgi
[21:08:10] <potty> ok
[21:08:15] <potty> thanks
[21:08:29] <potty> thank you so much ron and Arbalest !
[21:08:30] <potty> :)
[21:08:36] <ron> good luck
[21:08:39] <potty> wont be the last time you hear about me :)
[21:08:56] <ron> if it helps, I'll probably won't remember your name anyways ;)
[21:09:34] <potty> btw my name is Abdel Martinez, from Panama
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[21:39:46] <baedert_> to plugin development: http://pastebin.com/nSHQ3Lxh in line 4, I declare my Builder, which is assigned to my Nature in line 52. But when I go into the project preferences of a project with that nature attached, I see no Builder. any reason for that?
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