[00:00:12] <freeaks> i mean, yes i forgot to remove them  ;)
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[00:01:10] <jebblue> actually on the SVNKit thing I was wrong apparently its' from these guys: http://svnkit.com/
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[00:14:24] <freeaks> seems it's working fine now.. thanks all for the help..
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[00:38:34] <brownphysicist> (continuing from previous inquiry where I was cut short by work): Has anyone actually gotten a commandline option such as -Duser.name=<myname \s myemail@myserver> to work?
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[00:41:01] <acron17> hi! i'm trying to create some flat buttons as described here: http://www.java2s.com/Code/Java/SWT-JFace-Eclipse/DemonstratesButtons.htm
[00:41:23] <acron17> but it doesn't work, i just get normal buttons. any ideas why?
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[00:52:01] <pulse00> brownphysicist, yes, i do
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[00:53:17] <pulse00> like this: https://gist.github.com/1023946
[00:55:47] <pulse00> has anyone of you ever hosted an update site on github?
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[01:03:27] <brownphysicist> puls00: Thanks for the update. I found that my shell is still seeing each segment of the string, event inside double quotes. (from the commandline, of course.)
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[09:20:55] <RobotCow> is there a vim plugin for eclipse? i normally use jVi in netbeans but eclipse is recommended for android dev
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[09:25:03] <ronr_> vim plugin?
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[09:27:21] <frogonwheels> RobotCow: unfortunately (as much as I'm a vim fan) vim still doesn't really work as a drop-in part for anything (for fundamental code reasons).
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[09:28:08] <RobotCow> frogonwheels ? netbeans can do it, no reason eclipse shouldn't be able to
[09:28:10] <frogonwheels> RobotCow: although google produced this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/vimplugin/
[09:28:22] * RobotCow looking now
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[09:30:50] <RobotCow> frogonwheels ? i downloaded that. do i install it by dropping it in the eclipse/plugins folder?
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[09:31:07] * frogonwheels has no idea.
[09:32:15] <nitind> Have you tried learning how to use the editors already in Eclipse?
[09:33:02] <RobotCow> i imagine they are like basic editors, less efficient than vim
[09:33:21] <nitind> You'd imaging incorrectly, then.
[09:33:56] <RobotCow> more efficient than vim?
[09:34:24] <nitind> Likely better at dleaing with the languages they're specifically built to work with.
[09:34:32] <ronr_> I wouldn't say it's more or less efficient. It's just different.
[09:35:12] <RobotCow> i will try both, but how do i install this vim jar for eclipse?
[09:36:12] <nitind> Try putting it in the "dropins" folder.  They do far more than color syntax.
[09:40:04] <ronr_> RobotCow: what do you expect the vim editor to provide you that you don't think eclipse' editor will?
[09:40:41] <RobotCow> ronr_ ? command mode
[09:41:01] <RobotCow> ronr_ ? easier to move mouse around with fingers never going far from homerow
[09:41:12] <RobotCow> s/mouse/cursor/
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[09:41:38] <ronr_> not sure what command mode in vim is, sorry.
[09:41:55] <frogonwheels> ronr_: quick navigation, superiour search/replace.     Of course  you'd miss out on a lot of [java] specific stuff, refactring &c.
[09:42:23] <ronr_> I've never had a problem with search/replace.
[09:42:35] <ronr_> as for the quick navigation, it really depends what you mean.
[09:42:52] <ronr_> it's mostly a matter of getting used to things, but I can understand why you're wary of the change.
[09:43:00] <RobotCow> ronr_ ? there's a lot more to vim than can be said in one line
[09:43:09] <ronr_> I don't doubt it.
[09:43:19] <ronr_> though the same goes for the eclipse java editor ;)
[09:43:21] <frogonwheels> RobotCow: I sympathise (I'm a vim user), however I haven't used vim within eclipse..
[09:43:23] <RobotCow> ronr_ ? if you're on a linux/*nix system, you can run the vimtutor command to get an idea about it
[09:44:02] <frogonwheels> RobotCow: but I've only been rediscovering Java recently, so having all that codegen stuff and refactoring that eclipse gives you meant I stuck with it.
[09:44:04] <ronr_> RobotCow: I've used vim, though not vigorously. I do it as a necessity rather than wish :)
[09:44:14] <RobotCow> frogonwheels ? why not give it a try, what you linked me to a minute ago?
[09:44:16] <frogonwheels> RobotCow: despite it being sluggish to respond.
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[09:45:21] <RobotCow> frogonwheels ? hm, that's odd. using the jVi plugin for netbeans doesn't exclude me from having any of netbeans features
[09:46:30] <frogonwheels> RobotCow: assuming jVi is written in java? and actually has proper support for it?
[09:47:37] <RobotCow> frogonwheels ? jvi is written in java. http://jvi.sourceforge.net/ they made it for jbuilder and netbeans, not eclipse =(
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[09:49:31] <nitind> 3 things to learn in Eclipse: Ctrl+Shift+L, Ctrl+3, and in most a text editor, regular Ctrl+L.
[09:49:41] <nitind> If you're coming from a keyboard world.
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[09:52:55] <ronr_> ctrl+3 is awesome.
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[09:55:02] <RobotCow> ronr_ ? if you spend all your time or even most of it while using vim in insert mode, then you are definately not using vim the way it was intended and getting none of the benefits of it
[09:55:33] <ronr_> RobotCow: while that may be true, I still think it lacks some visual aspects.
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[09:57:16] <RobotCow> ronr_ ? such as?
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[09:57:32] <frogonwheels> ronr_: I think vim's biggest problem in the face of environments like eclipse, is lack of ability to really integrate into the auto-complete (vim has omni-complete, but it requires a plugin and needs to get info from somewhere) and other rleated context/code/language sensative actions.
[09:57:35] <ronr_> ctrl+t on a class/method.
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[10:03:56] <acron17> hi there! i'm trying to create some flat buttons as described here: http://www.java2s.com/Code/Java/SWT-JFace-Eclipse/DemonstratesButtons.htm
[10:04:21] <acron17> but it doesn't work, i just get normal buttons. any ideas why?
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[10:37:14] <everythingWorks> hey, is anyone using the plugin "findbugs" for java development?
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[10:37:29] <jink> Sure.
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[10:40:28] <everythingWorks> jink: Okay, i got the problem, that "Bug User Annotations" and "Bug explorer" always stays empty!
[10:40:40] <ronr_> that means you have no bugs!
[10:40:58] <everythingWorks> I cant imagine that i write *perfect* code :/
[10:41:05] <jink> ^__^
[10:42:45] <everythingWorks> what would cause something to be displayed there? :D
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[10:45:24] <everythingWorks> Thats what my screen is currently looking: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6559846/fb.PNG
[10:45:56] <everythingWorks> I thought this very slow concatenating would show a "bug" :D
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[10:49:14] <everythingWorks> ah cool it works now. You need to enable it in the project, first -_-
[10:49:14] <everythingWorks> :D
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[10:50:51] <everythingWorks> lol its suggessting even a solution to a problem T_T
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[10:52:24] <jink> everythingWorks: :)
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[10:54:25] <ronr_> this is hell. I have a web project that's spring based, uses maven and gwt. when I try to run it, I get an error, and I have no way of knowing which of the three is causing the problem.
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[10:55:08] <jink> Can't you tell from the error / stacktrace?
[10:55:57] <ronr_> well, of course. it's a spring issue, but could be the combination of it with maven.
[10:56:14] <ronr_> then again, I'm not sure what effect it should have when running directly from eclipse.
[10:56:48] <jink> Yay! \o/  Sounds like fun... :/
[10:57:11] <ronr_> mucho.
[10:57:31] <jink> Good luck.  I'll be fighting svn again, today. :/
[10:57:38] * jink hopes to win, this time around. :(
[10:57:43] <ronr_> wanna fight with git instead?
[10:57:59] <FauxFaux> \o/ git.
[10:58:05] <ronr_> FauxFaux: shh.
[10:58:21] * FauxFaux clinks tea-cups and monocles with ronr_.
[10:58:32] <ronr_> oh god.
[10:58:44] <ronr_> maybe instead you wanna help me resolve my issue? :)
[10:58:56] <ronr_> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1937767/spring-3-0-unable-to-locate-spring-namespacehandler-for-xml-schema-namespace
[10:58:58] <ronr_> that's my issue.
[10:59:03] <ronr_> that can't be the solution.
[10:59:07] <FauxFaux> Maven shade.
[10:59:15] <ronr_> wtf is maven shade?
[10:59:40] <FauxFaux> Spring is stupid and has multiple files of the same name that need to be concatenated for things not to break horribly; maven shade concatenates the files for you.
[10:59:47] <FauxFaux> spring.schemas or whatever it's called.
[10:59:51] <ronr_> so I need to add it
[10:59:57] <ronr_> maven shade, that is
[11:00:00] <FauxFaux> I didn't read your question, though, so this is just conjecture.
[11:00:17] <ronr_> it could be the solution. someone on some forum mentioned something about maven shade.
[11:00:32] <ronr_> I just can't understand why on intellij there's no such issue.
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[11:01:00] <FauxFaux> mvn package explodes then deexplodes all the jars for you.
[11:01:52] <ronr_> okay, I have the plugin definition. should I through it in the parent pom.xml or just the web project's?
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[11:02:13] <FauxFaux> I actively don't care about these kind of issues, though.  The only example I can find is in a non-web project so pass.
[11:02:39] <ronr_> you don't care about such issues because you don't use spring?
[11:02:43] <FauxFaux> jar tf war.war | sort | uniq -c | grep schema
[11:02:53] 
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[11:03:21] <ronr_> so I should throw it in the parent pom.
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[11:03:53] <FauxFaux> I meant the parent pom's parent pom, which is provided by people who care about these kind of things.
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[11:04:59] <ronr_> explain, please? :(
[11:06:13] <FauxFaux> I work for a large software company, there's a whole other team of maven experts (in the dirty build department) to deal with terrible problems like this; we just extend their pom and Some Of The Problems Go Away.
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[11:08:02] <acron17> i now replaced my buttons with a toolbar and toolitems to achieve flat buttons, don't know why i had to do so, but i works
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[11:08:55] <acron17> but the toolitems aren't shown at startup, unless the cursor moves over the empty place (i think that causes a kind of paint event)
[11:09:26] <acron17> so how can i force the toolbar and it items to be drawn at startup?
[11:09:58] <ronr_> FauxFaux: WOOT! It works!
[11:11:05] <ronr_> FauxFaux: thanks for the help.
[11:11:13] <ronr_> And now to the next issue.
[11:12:37] <acron17> ok. ToolBar.redraw() AND ToolBar.update() at the end of createPartControl() resolve that. don't know if it is supposed to be that way
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[11:28:02] <rcjsuen> acron17: It is very weird that your flat buttons don't work.
[11:30:25] <acron17> rcjsuen: yeah. i haven't found any recent issues about flat buttons on the web :-(
[11:33:11] <acron17> in my ViewPart i added them in createPartControl(Composite parent) with: Button btn = new Button(parent, SWT.FLAT);
[11:33:36] <acron17> is there anything else i need to do?
[11:33:51] <rcjsuen> I guess probably not
[11:33:59] <rcjsuen> but i'll have to get back to you
[11:34:13] <acron17> rcjsuen: okay...
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[11:35:41] <RobotCow> frogonwheels ? do you know if there's a way to enable/disable that vim plugin for eclipse without moving that file in and out of the dropins folder and restarting eclipse?
[11:36:04] <rcjsuen> acron17: I guess on Windows 7 they're not really "flat"
[11:36:21] <frogonwheels> RobotCow: haven't enabled it yet. :(
[11:36:36] <ronr_> RobotCow: assuming it's an editor like any other editor, you can choose which editor to open a file with.
[11:36:55] <ronr_> RobotCow: also, try looking at the plugin configuration (assuming it exists).
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[11:38:40] <RobotCow> ronr_ ? thanks, that worked, and i wrote the things down you told me about eclipse's editor in my note taking program
[11:38:49] <acron17> rcjsuen: i'm on ubuntu with eclipse Helios Service Release 2
[11:39:08] <rcjsuen> acron17: flat buttons are what's used in the PDE editors
[11:39:13] <rcjsuen> they should look like that
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[11:39:39] <rcjsuen> i don't know if FLAT makes sense on gtk+, it's been a while since i used linux regularly
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[11:42:06] <winegoddess> im a little confused wheni try todeploy an application to glassfish via eclipse. i get a cant deploy, no classfound for spring framework. thing is i can manually deploy the war file i create.
[11:42:19] <acron17> sorry, stupid question: how do i open an PDE editor? i know its plugin development environment, but whats an PDE editor?
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[11:42:53] <pulse00> acron17, not sure, maybe the editor for plugin.xml/ manifest.xml is meant ?
[11:43:31] <acron17> pulse00: thanks
[11:43:55] <acron17> if the plugin.xml editor is meant: no there are no flat buttons inside
[11:45:07] <acron17> what i want my buttons to look like are the buttons used in the eclipse ui... so these maybe are ToolItems in ToolBars?
[11:45:39] <pulse00> sorry, not much experience with the ui stuff
[11:48:01] <acron17> ok, i think they are, at least my ToolItems look i wanted the Buttons to look like.
[11:48:13] <pulse00> has anyone a hint where to host an update site besides on a private server? i was thinking about github pages, but it doesn't allow large binary files
[11:48:24] <acron17> and i'm fine with using a ToolBar, but i  still have the issue that it is not drawn on startup, only after moving the cursor over the items
[11:49:14] <RobotCow> eclipse shows available methods when i type . after an object and documentation on them. how can i get it to do that with a constructor?
[11:49:32] <ronr_> RobotCow: a constructor?
[11:49:49] <RobotCow> ronr_ ? are you not using eclipse for the java language?
[11:49:54] <ronr_> yeah
[11:50:24] <RobotCow> yeah, i want to see what arguements are expected for a constructor and there might be more than one constructor i can call
[11:51:04] <ronr_> okay, the content assist will give you a list of all possible methods/constructors.
[11:51:08] <RobotCow> new Class(String someargexpectedhere)
[11:51:12] <ronr_> right.
[11:51:36] <ronr_> if you do MyClass myClass = new MyC<content assist>, it'll give you the list of options.
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[11:52:41] <RobotCow> ronr_ ? whats the default content assist key?
[11:52:45] <RobotCow> i haven't changed any of the defaults
[11:52:51] <ronr_> ctrl+space
[11:53:00] <RobotCow> thx
[11:55:30] <RobotCow> ronr_ ? where do you get a list of those keyboard bindings?
[11:55:42] <ronr_> ctrl+shift+L
[11:56:08] <ronr_> tap it twice to see a full list, with the ability to filter through the options.
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[11:57:40] <reisi> do the swt classes send any kind of an event from a super class constructor to for example display's listeners (allowing pre-constructor dependency injection)?
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[11:57:58] <reisi> pre-constructor di *without* aop
[11:58:49] <acron17> ok, when i just add text ( ToolItem.setText() ) the items are visible on startup, when i add an image (setImage() ) the items aren't visible until i move the cursor over them...
[12:00:19] <acron17> acts eclipse lazy here? what can i do about that?
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[12:20:51] <acron17> sorry, has anyone an idea why an ToolItem with an image isn't displayed on startup (but after a paint event occured)?
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[12:22:52] <acron17> the image objects are created by an ImageDescriptor. maybe  this creation is lazy or something??
[12:24:41] <reisi> acron17: the little i know is that imagedesc based creation is not lazy
[12:24:48] <reisi> acron17: but sorry, i've never used toolitems
[12:25:00] <rcjsuen> sounds more like it might be a layout problem
[12:25:10] <rcjsuen> if it's a paint problem, alt+tab/alt+tab should show it
[12:27:28] <acron17> reisi: thanks you get me to the idea to check with normal buttons: which doesn't work either.
[12:27:54] <acron17> so the problem is not that the items (or buttons) aren't drawn but the images
[12:28:24] <acron17> rcjsuen: no, alt+tab/alt+tab doesn't show them. how can it be a layout problem?
[12:28:43] <rcjsuen> you can check if it's a layout problem by resizing your view/entire eclipse
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[12:28:59] <rcjsuen> it is also possible this is some bug with swt/gtk+
[12:29:11] <acron17> rcjsuen: but that also triggers a paint event, right?
[12:29:21] <rcjsuen> <rcjsuen> if it's a paint problem, alt+tab/alt+tab should show it
[12:29:28] <rcjsuen> but yes, sure, your OS needs to paint
[12:29:46] <rcjsuen> paint events are sent out a lot
[12:29:59] <acron17> rcjsuen: ok, than it's not a paint problem. resizing shows the images...
[12:32:03] <acron17> rcjsuen: but what do you mean with a layout problem? my toolbar hasn't a layout, should it have one? also the parent composite hasn't one because the toolbar is the only child...
[12:32:32] <rcjsuen> when you change your child controls
[12:32:36] <rcjsuen> the parent is not aware of this change
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[12:33:13] <rcjsuen> item.setImage(image); item.getParent().getParent().layout(true, true); (as an example)
[12:33:17] <rcjsuen> (more extreme measures may be required)
[12:33:29] <rcjsuen> altho this might be pretty extreme already I guess
[12:36:34] <acron17> rcjsuen: that has no effect...
[12:36:50] <rcjsuen> what is this, is this a view toolbar?
[12:36:56] <acron17> rcjsuen: sorry to ask again: should my ToolBar or its parent have a layout?
[12:37:13] <rcjsuen> your tool bar should not have layouts, no
[12:37:23] <rcjsuen> if your toolbar already shows up, it already means its parent has a layout
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[12:38:28] <acron17> rcjsuen: i have subclassed ViewPart and in createPartControl i create a ToolBar with the current parent and than ToolItems with the ToolBar as parent
[12:39:10] <acron17> currently there is no layout at all used
[12:43:20] <paulweb515> acron17: when you create controls under a composite, either you or someone else needs to make sure that composite has a layout
[12:43:30] <paulweb515> acron17: and the child controls can have the matching layout data
[12:43:34] <rcjsuen> well, that's okay for now i guess, for experimenting purposes
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[12:47:24] <acron17> paulweb515, rcjsuen: thank you very much!! with a layout in the parent composite it works. i never would have found out that for myself
[12:48:10] <paulweb515> acron17: to find out more about the different layouts, try the layout article at http://www.eclipse.org/articles/
[12:49:00] <acron17> paulweb515: thanks. i'm using already layouts, the problem was that i wasn't aware that i need to use a layout even if a composite has only one child
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[12:50:45] <acron17> interestingly it works with a RowLayout but not with a FillLayout
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[12:51:23] <acron17> but that's ok for me...
[12:53:21] <acron17> another question: there is no way to tell the SaveAsDialog to enforce a specific file extension, is there?
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[13:11:40] <^M> hello
[13:12:06] <^M> is there any way to hide com.sun.* and sun.* classes from automatcher? :)
[13:14:04] <^M> s/automatcher/content assist/ :)
[13:14:05] <jink> ^M: Preferences -> Java -> Appearance -> Type Filters
[13:14:57] <^M> jink: thanks
[13:15:25] <^M> jink: but the presence of sun.* and com.sun.* and others depends on the eclipse package installed?
[13:15:41] <FauxFaux> Wouldn't've thought so.
[13:16:42] <paulweb515> ^M: some of them are internal implementation details of the Sun JRE libraries, and some can come from using the JDK libs
[13:17:29] <^M> does Eclipse Classic has  com.sun.* etc?
[13:17:41] <^M> paulweb515: ah :)
[13:17:58] <^M> so where can I find JRE with only standard packages?
[13:18:06] <^M> or what it is name?
[13:18:07] <paulweb515> ^M: you can't
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[13:18:38] <paulweb515> ^M: well, maybe OpenJDK doesn't have the sun or com.sun packages ... but even there, I'm not sure
[13:18:47] <^M> okey
[13:19:09] <^M> i guess this is for the unification
[13:19:25] <^M> of java's JREs
[13:19:30] <^M> :)
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[13:19:53] <^M> so the same code could work on diffrent VMs :)
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[13:20:15] <^M> I know understand for it is for :)
[13:20:31] <^M> I know understand for what it is for :)
[13:21:43] <^M> another thing: can I force eclipse to autoimport packages? or is it done automagicly when there is only one proposition?
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[13:24:31] <^M> nope - it is done automagicly
[13:24:35] <^M> I've just tested
[13:25:17] <^M> so, is there anyway to force eclipse to import packages when there is only one proposition?
[13:25:57] <rcjsuen_> create a save action to organize imports if you want
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[13:27:25] <^M> nice tip - thanks :)
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[13:41:50] <pulse00> do feature jars need to be signed manually so users don't get an "untrusted source" warning when they install it? or can this be done from the plugin/feature editor?
[13:42:25] <acron17> i've asked that before, but sadly did not receive an answer: how do you guys use AbstractHandler with the MVC pattern?
[13:42:41] <acron17> are your handlers part of the controller? the view?
[13:43:58] <rcjsuen_> I'd expect the handler to just modify the model.
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[13:44:14] <rcjsuen> well unless it's doing something specific to the view (toggling of filters for instance)
[13:47:37] <acron17> rcjsuen: so you would count them to the model?
[13:47:50] <rcjsuen> I don't know what you mean by "count them to the model"
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[13:49:03] <acron17> rcjsuen: simply spoken, would you add them to your model subdir (suppose you would have one)
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[13:49:23] <rcjsuen> no, probably in a different package
[13:49:30] <acron17> i'm not sure how much actual work my handlers should do
[13:50:23] <paulweb515> acron17: say you were using EMF
[13:51:01] <paulweb515> acron17: so you have your model.  You would write EMF Commands to update your model.  Then your AH would create the appropriate EMF commands and run them
[13:52:02] <acron17> paulweb515: sorry, i thought the AH handles the commands not creates them?
[13:52:54] <rcjsuen> EMF Commands are different from Eclipse commands
[13:53:38] <paulweb515> acron17: platform commands and EMF commands are 2 different things
[13:53:52] <paulweb515> AH handles platform commands
[13:54:13] <acron17> rcjsuen, paulweb515 : ok, than i must read about them. my eclipse plugin books seems to miss them...
[13:54:14] <paulweb515> EMF commands are similar to core Operations (which can also be run from AHs)
[13:54:25] <paulweb515> acron17: well, they're only applicable if you use EMF
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[13:56:24] <acron17> ok, well then maybe back to basics: in my plugin the AbstractHandler must open a ProgressMonitor and run a job within which uses functionality of the modell. i'm a little confused how to organize that
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[14:02:47] <rcjsuen> Perhaps you should do one thing at a time.
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[14:11:07] <ronr_> hmm. it seems that I needed to set up the project as a GWT project after importing it from git. now that I did that, it yells that it doesn't have any GWT SDKs on its build path. The problem is that it does.
[14:11:08] * ronr_ sighs
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[14:14:32] <ronr_> I see. Found the problem. Now to try to find the solution.
[14:14:53] <ronr_> Apparently, maven also adds the gwt libs and it doesn't like that.
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[14:15:32] <magentar> in a team project set .psf what do the hashes represent in the source of the file?
[14:17:26] <paulweb515> magentar: ~pastebin
[14:17:26] <Arbalest> Please paste the relevant information onto a pastebin. The submission will generate a URL which you can then copy/paste back into the channel - http://www.pastebin.ca/ - http://pastebin.com/ - http://pastebin.org - http://ideone.com/ - http://pastie.org
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[14:19:37] <magentar> well it looks like this <project reference="version, URL", projectName, hash, URL;URL....>
[14:20:00] <magentar> i don't know if it's a hash, the value is b08030937e96001013bbc9c0f58324d2
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[14:21:46] <paulweb515> magentar: I need to see an actual example ... that doesn't help
[14:22:42] <ttiicc> Im got 4GB of memory and will only do developing on Eclipse and some websurfing besides it. I'll run a JBoss server on Eclipse to, which values do you guys think I should give XXMaxPermSize, Xms and Xmx
[14:22:43] <paulweb515> magentar: what's in there will matter to your SCM provider (as spec'ed at the top of the file)
[14:22:54] <magentar> ah right
[14:23:02] <magentar> but it wouldnt store my user/pass there would it?
[14:23:08] <magentar> i use subversive svn
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[14:23:39] <paulweb515> ttiicc: mine has -XX:MaxPermSize=256m
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[14:24:18] <paulweb515> I doubt that it would store password info there ... in my CVS one it *could* in theory store user information as part of the cvs info
[14:24:20] <ttiicc> paulweb515: would that be enough?
[14:24:58] <magentar> paulweb515, it looks like this, sorry have to filter out the URLs http://pastebin.com/DDRbxM61
[14:25:11] <paulweb515> ttiicc: to avoid PermGen issues, probably.  You could set your other values to -Xms40m -Xmx768m
[14:25:57] <paulweb515> magentar: can SVN deal with hashes to identify commits (similar to git)?  That might explain them
[14:26:09] <ttiicc> paulweb515: ok so permsize shouldn't be set to higher then that?
[14:26:10] <Galik> Hi. I am trying to get eclipse to use a different compiler to the one supplied by Fedora. I have built GCC 4.6.0 in a local folder and want to use that. Is there some way I can point eclipse CDT at the new compiler or do I need to add the includes and libraries manually and individually?
[14:26:29] <Galik> Using eclipse indigo M6
[14:26:35] <magentar> paulweb515, no i don't think so
[14:27:15] <paulweb515> ttiicc: if you start running into PermGen errors you can up that limit, but heap is the one that you want to make bigger.
[14:27:44] <ttiicc> paulweb515: ok then I'll just give more memory to heap
[14:27:48] <paulweb515> ttiicc: permgen should only need to be increased if you suddenly start loading and unloading a lot of bundles, or install something like IBMs RAD (3500 bundles :-)
[14:28:20] <paulweb515> Galik: wouldn't you reset the compiler to use in the Preferences>C/C++ sections?
[14:28:28] <ttiicc> paulweb515: sorry but what's bundle in eclipse? would subclipse be one?
[14:29:07] <paulweb515> ttiicc: a bundle == an eclipse plugin.  A feature (like subclipse) is probably made up of 2-10 bundles
[14:29:09] <Galik> paulweb515: That's what I'd like to do but I can't seem to find the option
[14:29:48] <paulweb515> Galik: I don't think there's many CDT users here.  If you don't get an answer in a little while, you might want to try the CDT forum: ~forums
[14:29:48] <Arbalest> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/
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[14:29:57] <Galik> It hoped it be like Java where you just point to the JDK
[14:30:12] <Galik> paulweb515: ok thnx :)
[14:30:16] <ttiicc> paulweb515: Thanks for the information, I really learned something new!
[14:30:29] <paulweb515> Galik: I would have thought so, or at least thought there would be a C/C++>Compiler preference page that could be updated
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[14:40:17] <RobotCow> does eclipse have a plugin to make it similar to gobby ( http://gobby.0x539.de/)
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[14:42:11] <rcjsuen> there's ECF and Saros, I know of those two
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[14:51:02] <RobotCow> ok i found this one http://www.saros-project.org
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[14:59:56] <ronr_> nobody here uses the combination of GWT + maven on eclipse? :(
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[15:33:53] <acron17> i want to create a resource in a project, i already have the IPath (from the SaveAsDialog) what do i need to do?
[15:34:23] <rcjsuen> split paths as necessary
[15:34:25] <rcjsuen> get your IProject
[15:34:28] <rcjsuen> spawn IFolders as necessary
[15:34:29] <rcjsuen> make your IFile
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[15:38:50] <acron17> rcjsuen: that seems a bit uncomfortable to me, i see IResource has some copy methods, why doesn't it have a create method?
[15:39:06] <rcjsuen> IFile has a create method
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[15:40:20] <acron17> rcjsuen: just found that out, sorry to bother your
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[15:42:52] <acron17> question is just how to convert an IPath to an IFile (i hope i'm not missing somethings obvious gain)
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[15:44:02] <acron17> i don't understand why SaveAsDialog doesn't return an IFile instead...
[15:44:35] <lisak> is there a tool, that can say which methods within a class are not called from anywhere within a build path ?
[15:44:56] <lisak> something like test coverage but for instant use ?
[15:45:40] <paulweb515> lisak: http://wiki.eclipse.org/Core_Tools
[15:45:43] <rcjsuen> acron17: from the api, it sounds ilke because the containers might not be created
[15:46:05] <paulweb515> lisak: it says v1.4.0 has a "Find Unreferenced Members"
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[15:50:27] <lisak> this plugins seems to be what I'm looking for http://www.ucdetector.org/
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[15:52:53] <r00tkit> Can anyone help me with a doubt??
[15:53:10] <paulweb515> ~ask
[15:53:11] <Arbalest> If you have a question, just ask, don't ask if you can ask a question. Skip the "meta-questions" like asking whether anyone uses X also as a precursor to check whether anyone can help you with a problem you have with X. Just ask the real question you have about X.
[15:53:57] <r00tkit> I want to develop a shared library in eclipse. Especially debug it. Should I write a driver module for that? Or can I do it without writing a driver??
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[15:54:25] <paulweb515> r00tkit: using CDT?
[15:54:32] <r00tkit> yup
[15:57:04] <r00tkit> paulweb515: The situation is I'm developing a plugin as a shred library. The lib will be loaded by the application. So in real scenario I don't need a driver.
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[16:07:16] <eshan> Help : what is the public repository should i mention in my pom.xml file in order  to download eclipse plugins ?
[16:07:35] <paulweb515> r00tkit: I'm not sure what a driver is in this context ... but if you don't get an answer for your question here, you might want to consider asking on the CDT forum: ~forums
[16:07:35] <Arbalest> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/
[16:07:49] <paulweb515> eshan: we don't have one set up yet, at least not correctly
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[16:08:03] <paulweb515> eshan: just what's in the public repo ... but there is a test repo around
[16:08:11] <paulweb515> eshan: are you talking regular maven, or maven/tycho?
[16:08:26] <eshan> regular.
[16:08:48] <^M> Does eclipse has option to add user defined method to all newly created classes?
[16:09:18] <^M> For example I would like to have private void p(String s){System.out.println(s);} to all my new classes
[16:09:34] <paulweb515> eshan: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=337068
[16:09:43] <rcjsuen> setup your code templates so it'll generate it for you
[16:09:44] <paulweb515> eshan: they are working on creating a maven.eclipse.org
[16:10:35] <eshan> paulweb515  :   <groupId>org.eclipse.core.runtime</groupId>
[16:10:37] <eshan> 			<artifactId>compatibility</artifactId>
[16:10:48] <eshan> i have add those things in my pom file
[16:11:09] <eshan> so I need to add a repository
[16:13:08] <paulweb515> eshan: you have to work backwards ... find how they're stored in your repo, and then add them to your pom
[16:13:37] <paulweb515> AFAIK on maven.eclipse.org they're going to be org.eclipse.core/org.eclipse.core.runtime.compatibility
[16:14:06] <^M> rcjsuen: thanks :)
[16:15:25] <eshan> paulweb515 : thanks for the info
[16:15:44] <paulweb515> eshan: I can certainly see some repos at http://maven.eclipse.org/nexus/index.html#view-repositories
[16:16:07] <^M> Another thing can I configure eclipse to automagicly add @SuppressWarnings to main? :)
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[16:18:37] <reisi> hi there! someone once helped me with this script http://pastebin.com/9cFpAEkC to fetch jface dependencies; any ideas if that could be tweaked to download sources as well?
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[16:19:23] <jink> ^M: Why?
[16:19:55] <jink> ^M: Sounds like a clear sign of Doing It Wrong (tm). :)
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[16:23:52] <paulweb515> reisi: you should be able to add IUs for org.eclipse.jface.source as well
[16:24:43] <reisi> paulweb515: so i need to find out what is the source-iu called for each package? (i was expecting something like attribute sources="true")
[16:25:50] <paulweb515> reisi: no, AFAIK they are separate IUs
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[16:26:14] <paulweb515> reisi: in ecllipse, all of the source plugins are <plugin.id>.source ...
[16:26:18] <^M> jink: I would like to hide ununsed object warrnings in main :)
[16:26:37] <reisi> paulweb515: ok, so i'll just try adding %id%.source, thanks
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[16:27:45] <paulweb515> reisi: yes, that's what I would do
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[16:38:54] <jink> Oh, great.  When you compare 2 projects with each other from the Package Manager, it somehow decides to include the bin directories in the compare, although you don't actually see those in the Package Explorer.
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[16:59:05] <mang> Hello all: I'm trying to read the status bar text using SWTBot. I've read that this is not possible
[16:59:23] <mang> is there a way to do this?
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[17:08:12] <mang> man, getting an answer on IRC is impossible these days
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[17:20:58] <rcjsuen> When you answer a question that nobody knows, then that would be a problem, yes.
[17:21:02] <rcjsuen> er, when you ask :o
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[17:24:06] <mang> maybe so, but even your response took half an hour
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[17:24:20] <mang> and it wasn't helpful
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[17:25:21] <mang> but thanks for answering, anyway
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[17:32:48] <rcjsuen> I could've answered the instant you asked the question. But that wouldn't have been very productive.
[17:33:19] <rcjsuen> If they can't read the text it's likely because it's drawn directly (instead of using a widget).
[17:33:40] <rcjsuen> That would be synonymous with asking your monitor what it's displaying. It doesn't know it's a character, it's just pixels to it.
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[18:25:53] <Echidna> is it possible to prevent people from closing an editor?
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[18:28:56] <rcjsuen> No.
[18:29:24] <Echidna> rcjsuen: at all?
[18:30:19] <rcjsuen> you'd have to use a view instead if you don't want close buttons
[18:30:30] <Echidna> oh
[18:30:40] <Echidna> well its a GEF editor, not sure i have much of a choice there
[18:30:50] <rcjsuen> no you don't
[18:32:41] <Echidna> ok thx
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[18:51:22] <Echidna> rcjsuen: how about a listener that catches the editor being closed and instantly reopening it?
[18:51:31] <rcjsuen> that would be rather annoying
[18:51:34] <rcjsuen> but that could work
[18:51:39] <rcjsuen> you should do it asynchronously though
[18:52:00] <rcjsuen> tho i guess editors aren't the same as views so that might not matter
[18:52:17] <rcjsuen> if your editor is _dirty_ you can have a custom prompt when asking to save
[18:52:25] <rcjsuen> but if it is not dirty you cannot override the close behaviour
[18:52:27] <rcjsuen> just to be clear
[18:52:38] <Echidna> ok
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[18:56:28] <Echidna> rcjsuen: uh whats the method that handles the prompt?
[18:56:51] <rcjsuen> the ISaveablePart2 interface lets saveable parts do custom prompting if desired
[18:58:33] <Echidna> ah thx
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[19:01:06] <Echidna> rcjsuen: overriding promtToSaveOnClose() and just returning 2 (cancel) seems to work
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[19:02:15] <rcjsuen> Echidna: Doesn't your editor have to be dirty
[19:02:28] <Echidna> rcjsuen: yes, it's always dirty
[19:02:33] <rcjsuen> oh
[19:02:37] <rcjsuen> that's an odd one
[19:02:40] <rcjsuen> but anyway
[19:02:54] <rcjsuen> if it works for you then knock yourself out
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[19:05:10] <Echidna> rcjsuen: when the framework is lacking, you gotta improvise =P
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[19:05:36] <rcjsuen> well, if your users don't mind then I guess everyone's happy
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[20:47:59] <dnjaramba> Under SEH Team
[20:48:22] <nitind> eh?
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[20:51:52] <ronr_> plugins can break too easily.
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[20:53:30] <reisi> how come swt.Link sends 0,0 as the selectionEvent's location?
[20:55:16] <rcjsuen> could be a genuine bug
[20:55:19] <rcjsuen> what are you concerned about
[20:56:11] <rcjsuen> if you want the string try using the event's text
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[20:59:28] <reisi> rcjsuen: i don't want the text; i'd like to know the widget relative location where mouse was clicked (like i'd infer from the documentation)
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[21:00:05] <rcjsuen> could just be a genuine bug
[21:00:07] <rcjsuen> does  abutton give you valueS?
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[21:00:50] <reisi> rcjsuen: didn't check, but i can get the location with a selection listener which is also a mouselistener :)
[21:01:01] <rcjsuen> yes you could do that if you wanted :o
[21:01:15] <rcjsuen> Don't forget that people can select something by hitting the 'Enter' key tho
[21:01:15] <reisi> rcjsuen: looking at the sources there's atleast some fiddling with the selection point, but that isn't really self-explanatory
[21:01:44] <reisi> rcjsuen: hmm yes, then it would be nice if the returned location would be something related to the hyperlink
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[21:09:24] <reisi> i'll put down a TODO for myself to check that once i've upgraded everything to latest.
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[21:31:53] <nitind> Are there weird drawing problems with the Outline view on Cocoa in 4.1 RC4 or is that just me?
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[21:32:34] <paulweb515_> nitind: Tom S or Brian D would know, but I don't think they're around just now
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[21:35:05] <nitind> paulweb515_: Is a view's toolbar supposed to obscure its content?
[21:38:01] <nbf> no
[21:38:13] <nbf> it should push the tab folder's content down
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[21:38:47] <nbf> like it's set to TOP
[21:41:10] <nbf> assuming you mean when the toolbar won't fit in the view at the current width
[21:41:21] <nbf> in the tab area
[21:43:01] <^M> OT/java => does bigdecimal has any limit? Beside the VM's memory limit?
[21:43:54] <^M> I wanted to ask this on #java but it is +i :)
[21:44:17] <^M> (and the documentation isn't clear about it)
[21:46:53] <FauxFaux> ^M: ##java just requires you to register with nickserv.
[21:47:33] <nbf> the channel is worthless anyway
[21:47:53] <grey> How can I unit test an IContentAssistProcessor in an eclipse plugin? I can test the plugin itself with junit and PDE Tools, but I need to have a fixture or mockup for some actual text in an ITextViewer?
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[22:43:51] <vekexasia> hello all, is it possible to display the packages hierarchy as folder and subfolder  ? Right now i've com.exaple and com.example.subpackage as 2 different packages in project explorer. I'd like to nest com.example.subpackage under com.example
[22:44:20] <reisi> can a swt.List or jface.ListViewer be used to create a "lazy" list, which would only keep some of the elements as actual list nodes; i'd like to have an efficient, paged view into a large sql table using these
[22:44:53] <reisi> or tableViewer
[22:46:44] <ronr_> vekexasia: click on the downwards triangle icon on the top right of the project explorer -> package presentation -> Hierarchical
[22:46:53] <nitind> vekexasia: Yes, from the view's local menu, check the Package Presentation options.  But think through why you want it one way versus the other.
[22:46:53] <reisi> wow, nice, ILazyContentProvider
[22:46:56] <vekexasia> thanks ronr_ .. Love you <4
[22:47:28] <vekexasia> nitind: yes. maybe i'll switch back but now it's the best for me :)
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[22:50:55] <lisak> I cannot find formatter for xml editor, is it possible :) ?
[22:51:03] <lisak> where to set it up ?
[22:51:20] <lisak> the typical java/editor/formatter
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[22:52:41] <lisak> I see, its just the formatting section
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[22:54:17] <nitind> eh?
[22:55:41] <lisak> the other editors have the formatter section in preferences, xml editor has only Formatting section
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[22:56:05] <lisak> I overlooked it
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[22:58:36] <nitind> It's not exactly  the most flexible formatter.
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[23:01:50] <freeaks> hi there how do i make eclipse to alway auto select a real android device (if present) when running my project, instead of having to select it manualy and press "ok" each time ?
[23:01:55] <lisak> not counting new features, is there something neat in 3.7 ? regarding java dev ... like performance etc.
[23:03:04] <freeaks> i tryed both manual and automatic (from run configuration > target > dialog)
[23:03:09] <nitind> freeaks: You'll have to check with the ADT documentation, it's not actually from Eclipse.
[23:03:38] <nitind> lisak: You're ruling out new features from being neat?  I think you need to ask in ##java, then.
[23:03:39] <freeaks> nitind, ok tnx
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[23:06:20] <lisak> nitind, this is cool http://eclipsesource.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/screenshot_108.png
[23:07:10] <nitind> lisak: Ah, misread that as 1.7.
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[23:13:28] <dinesh___> hey folks, is there a quick way to do something similar to "svn resolve --accept working *" in eclipse? it seems that i can't get rid of my tree conflict
[23:13:43] <dinesh___> and i can't mix command line + eclipse
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[23:15:03] <dinesh___> weird, it conflicts only when commiting, not when updating
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[23:18:13] <dinesh___> hm actually i managed to fix it using the command line, it's incredibly how bad svn is
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[23:21:18] <alankila> dinesh___: it's not called SUB version control for nothing.
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[23:23:27] <nbf> are the SWT docs no longer indexed by google?
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[23:34:24] <pulse00> hi all. when publishing plugins through a feature, do i need to sign the jars manually, or is there some mechanism provided by PDE to do this? ( to prevent the "unsigned content" warning when installing the feature
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[23:47:41] <FireFreek> Is it possible to check if your eclipse is 32 or 64 bit?
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