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[02:20:38] <czakian> Hey there, I recently upgraded to fedora 15 and while running eclipse (galileo and helios) the program crashes with a sigsegv in the java virtual machine.
[02:21:01] <czakian> The crash happens both with sun's jre and openjdk.
[02:21:27] <czakian> would anyone have an idea of where I might start looking to debug?
[02:21:29] <czakian> thanks
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[02:42:00] <xmux> czakian: Try the latest RC of indigo.  That might be the xulrunner problem (SWT browser in helios is incompatible with xulrunner > 1.9.2)
[02:42:51] <xmux> and fedora 15 upgraded xulrunner from 1.9.2 to 2.0
[02:43:52] <xmux> The usual symptom though is an exception rather than a segmentation fault
[02:59:34] <czakian> thanks, i'll give it a try
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[05:04:33] <nbf> time to move to indigo
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[05:42:51] <drthingums> Hello. I'm trying to develop a DOM for a scripting language but I'm stuck.
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[05:47:32] <drthingums> Anybody here?
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[06:00:54] <nitind> ~ask
[06:00:55] <Arbalest> If you have a question, just ask, don't ask if you can ask a question. Skip the "meta-questions" like asking whether anyone uses X also as a precursor to check whether anyone can help you with a problem you have with X. Just ask the real question you have about X.
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[06:10:12] <drthingums> If anyone can help me, please speak up.
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[06:15:29] <drthingums> Hello. I'm trying to develop a DOM for a scripting language but I'm stuck.
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[06:16:19] <drthingums> Can anyone help me or not!?
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[06:24:41] <GhostBear2> Hello. I have fairly simple question here. How can i make Eclipse not to copy all the project files but instead edit source files after i add directory structure into project?
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[06:38:40] <GhostBear> can i get a hint please?
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[06:59:18] <fchurca> Hello. I am trying to install the Cusp development environment in a clean Eclipse Galileo installation in Linux Mint (based on Ubuntu), and am having a couple problems. May I ask here?
[07:00:43] <ronr_> sure
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[07:03:30] <fchurca> Thanks. The instructions given by the author of Cusp tell to copy some folders into "the eclipse features and plugins folders". I have tried copying them into "/usr/share/eclipse/(features|plugins)" and "/usr/lib/eclipse/(features|plugins)" and starting eclipse with "eclipse -clean", but to no avail
[07:04:26] <fchurca> Where should they go? Do I have to make Eclipse update some index?
[07:06:30] <ronr_> hmpf.
[07:06:34] <ronr_> a few things first.
[07:06:47] <ronr_> a. I hate debian-based OSs.
[07:07:00] <ronr_> b. I hate plugin developers who make things complicated.
[07:07:08] <ronr_> now that that's out, let me check something.
[07:07:42] <ronr_> you actually develop lisp?
[07:08:39] <fchurca> i'm trying to learn lisp for a university course
[07:09:49] <fchurca> i have tried slime+emacs, but i was looking for something a bit more comfortable to use
[07:10:01] <ronr_> okay.
[07:10:11] <fchurca> even if it means having to jump through a few hoops
[07:10:41] <ronr_> well, it seems that it's no longer under development.
[07:11:34] <fchurca> there is a branch, lispdev, which i was going to try next
[07:11:42] <ronr_> sec...
[07:12:03] <fchurca> ?
[07:12:25] <ronr_> okay, if you want to make your life a little bit easier
[07:12:50] <ronr_> I'd suggest directly downloading the latest stable version of eclipse from ~downloads
[07:12:50] <Arbalest> Looking for a specific Eclipse version? - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#Where_can_I_get_Eclipse.3F - http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/ - http://archive.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/
[07:13:00] <ronr_> instead of using the one from ubuntu's repos.
[07:13:45] <ronr_> after that, if you use the eclipse marketplace, you can switch to the Yoxos marketplace, and it has the cusp plugin in it, so it'll install it quite easily.
[07:15:42] <ronr_> to be on the safe side, download the eclipse for java developers version.
[07:16:47] <fchurca> thanks; brb
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[07:30:46] <fchurca> how do i "switch to the Yoxos marketplace"?
[07:31:25] <ronr_> at the bottom of the marketplace window you have a 'switch marketplace catalog' link
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[07:35:37] <ronr_> found it?
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[07:48:15] <fchurca> how do i find the marketplace window? i've tried the "install new software" window and the available software sites tab from the preferences window
[07:49:26] <fchurca> is it a plugin i have to install first?
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[08:27:59] <drthingums> Hello. I'm trying to develop a DOM for a scripting language but I'm stuck.
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[08:43:44] <ronr_> fchurca: did you manage to install the plugin?
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[08:45:24] <fchurca> i got stuck at installing the yoxos marketplace
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[08:45:55] <fchurca> could install the eclipse marketplace plugin but can't find the yoxos repo
[08:46:18] <fchurca> i have found a yoxos marketplace client tho, was it that that i have to install?
[08:47:09] <ronr_> yeah
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[08:56:21] <fchurca> thanks for your time, but i couldn't install it. maybe the fact that it's almost 0400 here has something to do XD
[08:59:34] <ronr_> maybe.. try again tomorrow :)
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[09:03:25] <fchurca> actually today, but later :P but yes, i think i'll give it another shot
[09:04:02] <fchurca> see you later then! and thanks for your time
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[09:34:10] <jokoon> isnt there a shortcut to fold everything ?
[09:34:19] 
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[09:34:21] <jokoon> )
[09:34:27] <jokoon> fold function blocks
[09:35:45] <jokoon> found it
[09:35:52] <jokoon> ctrl / or *
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[10:05:02] <drthingums> Hello. I'm trying to develop a DOM for a scripting language but I'm stuck.
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[10:11:31] <atx> i'm struggeling to create a command in the context menu, which is only shown if some conditions are met every click. in my attempt: http://pastebin.com/zkNtXNCS my propertytester is only checked when another element is focused
[10:12:12] <atx> since i have a map drawn on a canvas, i want to check it every (right) click
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[10:17:21] <drthingums> Can someone help me out?
[10:19:07] <atx> drthingums: maybe you should provide more information?
[10:19:19] <drthingums> I'm trying to develop a DOM for a scripting language but I'm stuck.
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[10:21:27] <drthingums> More specifically, I'm trying to make a DOM for a scripting language for a 2d game engine.
[10:23:14] <atx> drthingums: hm, i ment more information about your problem and what relates it to eclipse rcp development
[10:25:30] <drthingums> I'm doing for for a plugin I'm writing. I'm writing an editor for this: http://www.ksatechnologyhq.com:1357/
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[11:18:09] <atx> hmm, it seems the conditions for the command are only verified once a new element is selected. but i need to verify it at each click. i have also tried to set it with ICommandService to "enabled=false" but it doesn't get evaluated each time i click
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[11:22:44] <drthingums> Wow, psst seems to having a lot of trouble maintaining its connection!
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[12:55:12] <paulweb515> drthingums: if you want to provide content assist, you need to provide a way to parse your DSL .... so you can tell the difference between a keyword and a type that's provided elsewhere, for example
[12:56:01] <paulweb515> atx: you can request that property testers be re-evaluated using org.eclipse.ui.services.IEvaluationService.requestEvaluation(String)
[12:56:25] <paulweb515> atx: BTW your pastebin goes nowhere
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[13:21:11] <sr_> re
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[13:48:21] <tasslehoff> can one upgrade from 3.6 to 3.7 RC3 using "help->check for updates", or must one wait for a release?
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[13:52:37] <rcjsuen> Unlikely. I guess if you added the 3.7 milestone update sites then maybe it would show up I guess.
[13:53:50] <paulweb515> tasslehoff: I'm not sure that 3.6 to 3.7 is a compatible update.
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[13:54:57] <tasslehoff> ok. so its a manual upgrade then. any way to keep my preferences?
[13:54:59] <paulweb515> tasslehoff: but you can try, add http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/updates/3.7milestones and http://download.eclipse.org/releases/indigo to your Install sites
[13:55:14] <paulweb515> tasslehoff: preferences are stored in your workspace
[13:55:27] <tasslehoff> aha.
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[14:20:25] <deSilva> I have a question that is maybe somewhat dumb. I have been tasked with writing some extension to plugin. My first plugin work. I'm using the SDK edition of eclipse, 3.7 RC. So in my workspace I have number of projects that make up this plugin and I know how to launch it (then eclipse loads again with some special workspace). Here is my question, I would like to have access to a normal installation
[14:20:25] <deSilva> of the latest stable version of this plugin where I can use it like a normal user. Can I use the same eclipse installation and same workspace for this or would it cause some problem when I launch my developed version of the plugin or in some other situation? Did you even understand the question? :)
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[14:22:58] <ronr_> that's a good question.
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[14:29:19] <rcjsuen> Well presumably you have a build setup and when you're happy with a build use your nightly update site or whatever and install that "good" version on your sysetm
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[14:37:05] <paulweb515> tasslehoff: I took 3.6.2 and added  http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/updates/3.7milestones to the available sites.  Then a check for updates really did find our 3.7 RC4 build ... it's updating now, I'll find out show successfully shortly :-)
[14:39:40] <tasslehoff> paulweb515: cool :)
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[14:58:56] <paulweb515> and it worked!
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[15:04:29] <tasslehoff> hm. on my system it doesn't see it as upgrades
[15:04:50] <tasslehoff> I can get packages by going to "install new software"
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[16:05:17] <kleopatra> Hello i am using eclipse with cdt plugin, it works quite fine, but when i install the qtintegration plugin, i get no mre code completion for anything but qt. it even says iostream was unresolved but the projects build, but i need my code completion, what can i do?
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[16:10:34] <paulweb515> kleopatra: there aren't a lot of CDT people here ... if you don't get an answer to your question after a while, I would also consider posting in the CDT forum - ~forums
[16:10:34] <Arbalest> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/
[16:10:56] <paulweb515> kleopatra: also asking on the qtintegration user forum (wherever  that is)
[16:11:40] <kleopatra> thx for answer, i dont know whether there is a forum for qt integration and if there is i assume its somewhere at trolltech/nokia
[16:12:24] <ronr_> trolltech? is that for real?
[16:13:14] <nitind> Yes, that was the name of the company that developed Qt.
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[16:14:33] <ronr_> isn't it like saying they're doomed in the first place?
[16:16:36] <nitind> No.  Not at all like that.
[16:17:25] <ronr_> but it's like tech. related to trolls. as in troll-tech. that's... evil.
[16:17:34] <nbf> isn't most of the qt team getting laid off
[16:17:39] <nbf> trolololol
[16:18:07] <ronr_> now you're just acting all Dr. Sbaitso-y.
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[16:25:02] <djMax> So when I hit "Debug", eclipse nicely tries to figure out what class I'm in and run that main. But if there's not a main in that package it appears to kind of be random. Is there a way to stop both these behvaviors?
[16:25:13] <djMax> or behaviors even.
[16:25:37] <TomTom> its not random
[16:26:23] <nitind> djMax: Run/Debug->Launching preference page, Launch Operation group.
[16:27:54] <djMax> thx
[16:28:02] <djMax> yes, assumed it only felt random to me. :)
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[16:59:15] <lahwran> is there a way to exclude files from build when using eclipse with java, but not exclude them from editing?
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[17:00:47] <nbf> whats the indigo update site
[17:00:55] <nbf> I just updated to a rc and no update sites
[17:02:29] <nbf>  http://download.eclipse.org/releases/indigo
[17:04:22] <rcjsuen> Indigo - http://download.eclipse.org/releases/indigo
[17:04:34] <rcjsuen> Though it doesn't seem to be doing anything right now
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[17:09:43] <nbf> :(
[17:09:50] <nbf> is the friends of eclipse stuff working
[17:10:05] <rcjsuen> nbf: You might be shocked to hear but I'm not a Friend.
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[17:10:12] <nbf> *Gasp*
[17:10:27] <nbf> I actually haven't donated yet this year
[17:10:28] <rcjsuen> Call the cops
[17:10:30] <nbf> I did last year
[17:10:41] <nbf> I'm going to but I've been sidetracked all morning
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[17:41:37] <nbf> lets go indigo, lets go!'
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[17:49:13] <djMax> sometimes when I step into a simple accessor method it takes like 30 seconds. Anybody ever seen that?
[17:49:22] <nbf> I'm LOVING the CDT improvements
[17:49:33] <djMax> I bet it's because the file is 33,834 lines long, but still...
[17:49:45] <nbf> what lanugage
[17:50:01] <djMax> Java, sorry.
[17:50:33] <nbf> why do you have a 33k source file
[17:50:36] <djMax> though stepping out also takes a long ass time, which makes less sense.
[17:50:42] <djMax> generated file from a protobuf file
[17:50:48] <nbf> ah been there ;)
[17:50:56] <djMax> i.e. the original file is probably couple hundred lines.
[17:50:57] <nbf> I know there's a way to enable performance mode
[17:51:08] <djMax> performance mode of what? Proto or Eclipse?
[17:51:10] <nbf> which disables a lot of features to get better speed
[17:51:12] <nbf> in eclipse
[17:51:33] <nbf> usually it prompts you when you open a giant file
[17:52:38] <djMax> interesting. Ok, will try to check into that. Suppose I must be able to disable stepping into those classes in the first place
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[17:53:47] <djMax> and yeesh, would it kill somebody to allow autocomplete in the expressions view?
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[17:54:33] <ilyak> What's the best way to update eclipse?
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[18:01:59] <lahwran> I'll ask my question again since it's been about an hour
[18:02:00] <lahwran> is there a way to exclude files from build when using eclipse with java, but not exclude them from editing?
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[18:35:27] <quiel> has anyone encountered a problem (on linux) where eclipse misses right-clicks and menu don't open? it happens sporadically, I'm not sure if it's eclipse or gtk or whatever?
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[18:40:07] <M_Kay> hello i am in search of a tutorial / howto to get eclipse c running on windows 7. has someone a link for me?
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[19:31:03] <paulweb515> lahwran: in the project properties>build path>Source tab, you can exclude certain source from being built
[19:31:18] <lahwran> yes, I found that
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[19:31:32] <lahwran> but it also excludes it from the available files to edit
[19:33:00] <paulweb515> lahwran: in what way?  If you double-click on them they open, right?
[19:33:09] <lahwran> they don't show up in the file browser on the left
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[19:34:08] <paulweb515> lahwran: that's because they're not part of java anymore.  You can open the Project Explorer and see them there, or use CTRL+SHIFT+R to open the resources (they're not types anymore)
[19:35:07] <nitind> Well, not the Project Explorer.  That'll look like the Package Explorer, won't it?
[19:35:09] <paulweb515> lahwran: I'm kinda curious myself
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[19:37:19] <paulweb515> lahwran: I added an exclude pattern, and it turned my second top level package into a folder
[19:37:57] <paulweb515> lahwran: try closing all folders from the '-' toolitem and then select your project and F5
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[20:29:52] <antiguru> What's the best approach to support something like xml:lang in EMF? It seems like this is something that does not really exist in the EMF world, am I right?
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[20:44:59] <antiguru> I am implementing a custom resource for EMF, so what would be the best approach for multi-language attributes (data comes from a triple store), extract just the value for one language, the provided or default one?
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[21:14:15] <LimitedAtonement> I'm having a problem running Eclipse.
[21:14:51] <LimitedAtonement> I'm using Windows XP.  When I start Eclipse, during the splash screen, when it usually shows what modules it's loading, etc., in stead, it just shows the "workbench" but nothing on the workbench works.
[21:14:59] <LimitedAtonement> Loadup times are greater than great, but functionality is lacking.
[21:16:05] <LimitedAtonement> I've tried switching workspaces (because I figured that the workspace got corrupted or something.
[21:16:15] <LimitedAtonement> I was working with Texlipse.
[21:16:32] <LimitedAtonement> I had created a new file to put in my project whose filename matched an existing file in the project.
[21:16:42] <LimitedAtonement> Then, I decided to delete one of them, but it deleted both.
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[21:18:58] <LimitedAtonement> And I think everything was fine...I recreated the original file that was deleted, put the appropriate content in there and rebuild.
[21:19:09] <LimitedAtonement> That's when things went bad.  The build hung.
[21:19:27] <LimitedAtonement> Eclipse used 0% processor for a couple minutes but the UI didn't respond.
[21:19:34] <LimitedAtonement> So, I closed it forcefully.
[21:19:42] <LimitedAtonement> Then, when I went to open it, it exhibited this behaviour.
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[21:45:16] <kril> LimitedAtonement: which perspective do you have open?
[21:47:48] <lisak> cbeust, Hi Cedric, eclipse testNG plugin doesn't seem to work properly with custom annotations
[21:48:01] <lisak> don't you know anything about this ?
[21:48:13] <cbeust> lisak: Nope, can you expand? (probably better to email testng-users)
[21:48:44] <lisak> http://pastie.org/2028939
[21:49:03] <lisak> since I added @DataProvArgs
[21:49:17] <lisak> I cannot run tests from Run As...
[21:49:49] <cbeust> mmh interesting, I'll take a look but feel free to send me an email so I don't forget
[21:50:01] <lisak> even if I want to run a Method in Run as... it just doesn't get stuck when choosing the methods via Browse
[21:50:20] <lisak> if I manually type the method name, it runs the entire class
[21:50:40] <lisak> there are no errors, so hard to figure out
[21:52:59] <cbeust> You're saying the Run as menu doesn't appear on such classes?
[21:53:17] <cbeust> OR methods? Or navigator? Or package explorer? Which is why you should send me an email where you give me the full description
[21:53:21] <lisak> if I click Run As
[21:53:26] <lisak> there is only Run configuration
[21:53:32] <lisak> and in Run Configuration
[21:53:45] <lisak> I can't set up execution of a method
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[21:54:11] <lisak> no matter if I use my Template xml or  generated by eclipse
[21:56:09] <lisak> Ok I will, I just investigate a little more
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[22:12:58] <lisak> cbeust, email sent, there is this log right after eclipse starts [TestNGLaunchShortcut] Examining Java element:null
[22:13:24] <lisak> is there a log file for the plugin ?
[22:14:04] <cbeust> No specific file, it just uses the standard log mechanism
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[22:19:49] <lisak> I also update yesterday from a release 1-2 months old
[22:20:24] <lisak> not sure if this is the reason cause I was using just surefire plugin
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[22:42:31] <Hannofcart> hello, I am trying to debug an windows application that was cross compiled using mingw from osx. Now, I don't need to remote debug. I only need to debug the application on Windows itself using gdb, while at the same time being able to browse (not necessarily edit code).
[22:42:32] <Hannofcart> Currently I am using Insight GDB GUI and have also tried Emacs, both of which I find cumbersome. Is it possible to do this in CDT?
[22:42:58] <Hannofcart> If it is, can someone please point me to information about how to do it?
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[23:11:58] <lisak> cbeust, is it not possible to attach a file in the reply ?
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[23:12:18] <lisak> I just reproduced the the test case in a new project and it works there
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[23:14:22] <cbeust> lisak: Feel free to email me directly if the list doesn't accept attachments
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[23:20:37] <binary_crayon> Hello, how can I integrate UDC (Usage Data Collection) plugin to my Eclipse RCP application? thanks!
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[23:27:38] <lisak> cbeust, omg ignore the last message about it not working in the sample project ... it behaved like this because there was already a profile with this class and method
[23:28:53] <cbeust> Ok :)
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[23:46:47] <lisak> cbeust, well for in the Issue project, I narrowed the class down to this http://pastie.org/2029533
[23:46:53] <lisak> and it started to work
[23:47:39] <lisak> but I really don't have any idea what was the reason, it wasn't working after I remove  the parent TestCase, that was full of crap
[23:48:00] <lisak> no compilation errors in any attempt I tried
[23:48:27] <lisak> with this version  Browse for method actually listed the fillOut method
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[23:49:00] <lisak> incredible, won't you consider improving logging so that it would catch problems like this ?
[23:51:14] <lisak> there is just something invisible to us that affects searching for @Test methods
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[23:57:14] <shurane> How many lines of code does Eclipse have? Just wondering...
[23:58:52] <ronr_> That would probably depend on what you call 'eclipse'.





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