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[00:13:27] <KWhat_Work> So i have this javascript plugin for eclipse and everytime i save, it just SITS there for like 60 seconds rebuilding the workspace before it saves.  Can i just disable that ???
[00:15:59] <KWhat_Work> i keep disabling the fucking builders and that pos keeps comming back
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[02:11:23] <danomite> does eclipse have code collapsing
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[02:14:21] <njbartlett> danomite: Yes
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[02:14:42] <danomite> how do i turn it on
[02:14:52] <njbartlett> danomite: You don't need to
[02:15:27] <njbartlett> danomite: That is, it's on by default. So unless you've accidentally turned it off, you shouldn't need to do anything.
[02:19:09] <danomite> can i collapse from the context menu in the java editor
[02:23:38] <njbartlett> Don't think so
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[02:40:25] <Krenair> Hey, me again
[02:40:42] <Krenair> Same problem as last time: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10971457/Git%20messed%20up%20Eclipse%20%3A%28.png
[02:40:52] <Krenair> Removed and added the source folder exclusion *.git*
[02:40:55] <Krenair> No change :(
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[02:45:16] <wisemansword>  i see html and css attributs in content asist window (when code auto complete), i use eclipse helios on ubuntu.  and i dont see documention unless i scroll down in content-asist window. css and html codes fill top of the content-asist window
[02:46:12] <wisemansword> i see that problem in pdt plugin
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[03:13:24] <sneakyimp> hello all.  is this a suitable place to ask about eGit?
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[03:25:44] <Aniar> rcjsuen_: thanks for the pointer! (re: #eclipse-linux 4 hours ago that I only just noticed)
[03:36:21] <paulweb515_> sneakyimp: you can ask, sure
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[04:27:43] <sneakyimp> so I'm having problems with eGit.  namely that when i do a file->import... and then select a git repository (my remote, core repos on a server) and import it then the default config values for eGit are wrong and weird
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[04:29:16] <sneakyimp> specifically, 1) when i inspect the contents of my git config, I have a push uri assumed port 29418 even though I had specified port 22 when importing the code in the first place
[04:29:57] <sneakyimp> and 2) remote.origin.push is HEAD:refs/for/master instead of refs/heads/master
[04:30:10] <sneakyimp> i wonder if i'm missing something or whether eGit is really just that bad
[04:30:43] <sneakyimp> sadly, the meaning of these configuration values is kind of greek to me.  i just know that i had to change them port 22 and /refs/heads/master to get my core repository to reflect the changes.
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[04:38:52] <foxeh> Howdy, I am trying to get rt collaboration in eclipse. can anyone help me out?
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[08:17:36] <kefka0> is it possible to have the eclipse C++ editor use smart tabing for spaces, so backspace will go back 4 spaces?
[08:17:45] <kefka0> (pydev editor does this for me)
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[11:31:16] <lisak> guys is there a tool that would validate files regarding some invisible metacharacters ?
[11:31:38] <lisak> I spent 2 hours because of this
[11:31:39] <lisak> java -Dportal.test=generic ????????-Dwebdriver.chrome.driver=/opt/google/chrome/chromedriver ????????-Dwebdriver.development=true ????????-Dwebdriver.firefox.useExisting=true ????????-Dwebdriver.firefox.profile=webdriver ????????-Dwebdriver.reap_profile=true ????????-Dsurefire.useFile=false ????????-Xmx2048M ????????-XX:MaxPermSize=1048M ????????-XX:+CMSClassUnloadingEnabled
[11:31:54] <ronr_> huh?
[11:32:18] <lisak> if you have a xml config file and copy/paste something
[11:32:42] <ronr_> yes?
[11:32:54] <lisak> occasionally there might be some metacharacters that are not decoded properly - not rendered
[11:33:00] <lisak> from copy/paste
[11:33:11] <lisak> and it may lead to what happened to me
[11:33:20] <lisak> what I pasted is a java process from $ps
[11:33:39] <lisak> hard to figure out the reason then
[11:33:39] <ronr_> I have no idea what this has to do with eclipse.
[11:34:07] <lisak> there might be a plugin that can do that
[11:34:21] <lisak> otherwise one must go and use some OS tool to clear them
[11:34:40] <ronr_> it just sounds like an encoding issue.
[11:35:27] <lisak> it is very rare but happens no matter what encoding your OS has
[11:35:41] <lisak> I'm using utf-8 in all soft I use
[11:35:50] <lisak> but it happens anywaty
[11:36:04] <lisak> java is also set to utf-8
[11:38:51] <ronr_> and yet, it still sounds like an encoding issue.
[11:40:11] <lisak> of what ? it just happens, some server returns shitty encoded html, I copy/paste it and bum
[11:41:19] <ronr_> make the server return non-shitty encoded html.
[11:41:33] <lisak> omg
[11:41:42] <lisak> copy/paste from the internets
[11:41:55] <ronr_> which one of the internets?
[11:42:01] <lisak> 1
[11:42:13] <ronr_> oh, that's a good internet.
[11:43:39] <ronr_> can you give me a sample internets page you copy and paste that gives you all those ????????? ?
[11:44:56] <lisak> no, I would have to be trying, possibly all day ... but I remember that I copy one of these lines -Dwebdriver.firefox.useExisting=true
[11:45:07] <lisak> and that ctrl + alt + downArrow
[11:45:22] <lisak> and it got into almost all parameters
[11:45:27] <lisak> then*
[11:45:35] <lisak> copied*
[11:45:41] <ronr_> okay, I give up.
[11:45:59] <lisak> using windows ?
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[16:52:45] <ronr_> yeah, yeah, so eclipse on ubuntu is giving you a hard time.
[16:52:48] <ronr_> how did you install it?
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[16:53:58] <ronr_> of course if you'd rather stay mute, that's fine too.
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[16:54:33] <Ourson> Hi.
[16:54:40] <ronr_> Hi.
[16:54:50] <leao> I hope it works this time.
[16:55:02] <ronr_> It won't.
[16:55:14] <leao> why not
[16:55:21] <leao> i bet someone will help me
[16:55:48] <ronr_> if you answer the damn question, maybe it'll even be me.
[16:55:54] <Xgc> leao: Sounds like you need to practice using irc.
[16:56:05] <leao> guys im trying to get this PERL plugin to work in my ECLIPSE (ubuntu)
[16:56:09] <leao> and its not checking the syntax
[16:56:13] * ronr_ facepalms
[16:56:14] <leao> no font colors
[16:56:15] <leao> nothing
[16:56:28] <leao> and fonts are extremely huge
[16:56:43] <leao> im sure it was the right plugin (EPIC)
[16:56:46] <ronr_> Xgc: deja vu much?
[16:57:02] <leao> why are you guys hating people who need help so much ?
[16:57:07] <leao> whats the problem here
[16:57:18] <leao> ffs
[16:57:19] <ronr_> let's try it again.
[16:57:23] <leao> oh yeah ?
[16:57:23] <Ourson> I just made the mistake to update ubuto to 11.04... Hi have a stronge issue ever since : the contextual menu est very slow in the eclipse editor, do any of you know about that ? I'm not so sure if it's an ubuntu, an SWT or an eclipse issue, but it seems undocumented...
[16:57:24] <Xgc> leao: A monologue will get you nowhere quickly.  Try reading instead of just typing.
[16:57:39] <ronr_> how did you install eclipse on ubuntu?
[16:57:48] <ronr_> Ourson: ouch :(
[16:57:53] <leao> oh i didnt see your previous msgs
[16:57:55] <leao> sorry for that
[16:58:01] <leao> anyway i installed it through terminal
[16:58:16] <leao> sudo apt-get install eclipse
[16:58:23] <leao> and it wasnt the helios version
[16:58:23] <ronr_> that's the first problem.
[16:58:26] <leao> the one before that
[16:58:36] <ronr_> download it from www.eclipse.org/downloads instead.
[16:58:42] <ronr_> Ourson: are you using Unity?
[16:59:22] <leao> the one at the top ?  98mb or classic one 170mb ?
[16:59:26] <ronr_> I wonder if there's a factoid for that.
[16:59:30] <ronr_> ~download
[16:59:36] <ronr_> ~downloads
[16:59:36] <Arbalest> Looking for a specific Eclipse version? - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#Where_can_I_get_Eclipse.3F - http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/ - http://archive.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/
[16:59:40] <ronr_> ah, there it is.
[16:59:57] <ronr_> leao: depends on what you're going to develop with it.
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[17:00:19] <Ourson> I disactivated it.... I suppose, and the I apt-get removed it, but, this thing seems hard to completely remove.
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[17:00:30] <Ourson> and then*
[17:00:32] <leao> C/C++, PERL and Java (training level)
[17:00:41] <ronr_> Ourson: right, but which desktop do you currently use?
[17:00:55] <ronr_> leao: so get either the Java one or the C/C++ one.
[17:01:35] <Ourson> Gnome, ubuntu session is start in the classic without effect mode.
[17:01:40] <leao> ookay, i thought i could have them all as plugins in an eclipse
[17:02:25] <ronr_> you could. add them afterwards.
[17:05:03] <leao> ok thanks, adding them through p2 rep
[17:05:09] <leao> hoping for the best
[17:05:23] <ronr_> Ourson: which eclipse version?
[17:06:11] <Ourson> I have the issue with both indigo an galileo
[17:07:07] <leao> oh i forgot to install a JDK or JRE
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[17:07:15] <leao> ronr_ which one would you advise ?
[17:07:26] <ronr_> Ourson: is this your issue? ~330563
[17:07:27] <Arbalest> Bug 330563 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=330563 - Platform / SWT / 3.5.2 - PC / Linux - NEW / critical / - Assignee: platform-swt-inbox - Menu doesn't appear on Ubuntu with Unity desktop
[17:07:40] <ronr_> leao: install the jdk.
[17:08:09] <leao> the opensource one in Software center?
[17:08:29] <ronr_> sure.
[17:09:46] <leao> naah im getting the standard JDK
[17:09:52] <leao> and hoping for the best again
[17:09:53] <leao> lol
[17:10:50] <ronr_> ubuntu gives out openjdk by default. installing the oracle jdk requires more effort.
[17:11:07] <leao> yeah it gives loads of errors -_-
[17:11:15] <leao> okay then
[17:11:18] <Ourson> ronr > no, but I just solved the issue \o/
[17:11:27] <ronr_> Ourson: woot! how?
[17:14:54] <Ourson> It appears that for some reason the ubuntu update broke something with the eclipse bazaar plugin I used. And at each opening of the contextual menu, somes calls to the vcs are made (which I find kind of ugly) and as the vcs is not responsive, a 5-10 seconds lag occurs....
[17:15:49] <ronr_> oi.
[17:16:20] <Ourson> So, It's not a unity issue after all.... that's doesn't change the fact unity is a bug nest....
[17:16:50] <ronr_> unity is hell.
[17:17:07] <Ourson> true.
[17:17:46] <ronr_> I installed it on my media center. after I saw the performance dying, I just changed the logon to xbmc's standalone desktop.
[17:18:54] <Ourson> I clearly don't understand the ubuntu team choice... Is not stable, it's not really intuitive...
[17:19:28] <ronr_> I agree.
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[17:22:10] <Ourson> so I should have stuck with 10.10...
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[17:22:55] * FauxFaux likes Unity, it's much better than Gnome ignoring the segfaults.
[17:22:55] <Ourson> the good thing was to move to indigo... It really improved performances and CDT features :)
[17:23:20] <nbf> man I have to try out indigo
[17:23:28] <ronr_> well, I'm waiting for the official release.
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[17:44:14] <Ourson> And then the work on eclipse 4 begin ?
[17:45:38] <nbf> e4 has been worked on for a while now
[17:46:35] <Ourson> oh nice :)
[17:47:29] <FauxFaux> Topic.
[17:48:47] <Ourson> oh, sorry
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[17:52:34] <tlvb> any eclim users? for some reason when I have two vim windows beside each other I cannot change keyboard focus by clicking the window I want, until I unfocus and refocus the whole eclipse window (eg change and change back window manager worksapace (not eclipse workspace))
[17:53:07] <tlvb> or... now I could... so it is a heisenbug... yay
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[17:55:10] <tlvb> hmm... perhaps the proper thing to ask for would be eclipse/eclim developers ...anyway I can live with it, just wanted to give a heads-up if anyone monitors this channel
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[18:19:14] <lisak> damn all those monospaced fonts are two "wide"
[18:19:33] <lisak> I wish there was possibility to narrow them down
[18:20:45] <FauxFaux> ??? ?? ??? ??? ??? ?? ???? ??? ???????
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[18:22:49] <lisak> isn't this question a little retarded :-) ?
[18:23:06] <lisak> talking about fonts in editors
[18:23:18] <lisak> monospacing is practically mandatory for programming
[18:23:29] <lisak> but they are too wide
[18:24:42] <lisak> especially in java where strongly typed method arguments with some throws exceptions makes methods break into two liners
[18:24:50] <lisak> method definitions
[18:26:19] <dominicdinada> cant find manage connections to uninstall stuff
[18:26:57] <lisak> FauxFaux, there shouldn;t be monospaced font in my irc client
[18:27:09] <lisak> omg it is
[18:27:12] <lisak> wtf
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[18:30:41] <tlvb> tradition? irc were around even when the main computer interface was text based only?
[18:39:14] <lisak> tlvb, you mean that monocpace fonts originated in terminals, so that is has monospaced font by default ?
[18:39:42] <lisak> the one FauxFaux used spreads all over the line :)
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[19:06:14] <sr___> I am trying to serialize an array list of pojos
[19:06:20] <sr___> any serialization framework advised?
[19:06:41] <sr___> I used XMLEncoder so far but i am having big issues with Joda time...
[19:07:10] <ronr_> ooh... wrong channel, man.
[19:07:20] <sr___> well
[19:07:23] <ronr_> ##java is what you're looking for.
[19:07:43] <sr___> I figured someone would know :)
[19:08:00] <ronr_> I see. Make sense.
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[19:16:41] <oquidave> hello guys
[19:17:13] <rcjsuen> dominicdinada: You need to access your installation details thru the about dialog
[19:17:46] <ronr_> rcjsuen: you know, you really scare me when you do that.
[19:17:56] <rcjsuen> Do what
[19:18:14] <oquidave> anybody used eclipse jdt with jquery support?
[19:18:23] <ronr_> answer people for questions they asked millions of hours ago.
[19:18:42] <rcjsuen> ronr_: it was about 50 minutes ago
[19:18:51] <rcjsuen> But I know what you mean
[19:19:13] <oquidave> or rather the qn is how can make eclipse javascript development tool support jquery javascript framework? thanks
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[19:22:30] <sr___> \
[19:25:20] <oquidave> hello guys
[19:25:29] <oquidave> where can i get this file........org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.core_version.jar
[19:25:48] <oquidave> am told its in plugins but i can see it
[19:26:21] <oquidave> instead i can see this....org.eclipse.wst.xml.xpath2.processor.doc.user_1.0.0.v201005240426
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[21:13:45] <dark3n> Good evening, im having problems... When ever i open the android layout editor in eclipse it crashes, the .metadata/log doesnt contain a crash report, i'm on windows 7 64bit. Any help is appreciated i'm really at the end of my knowledge and pretty frustrated...
[21:17:00] <FauxFaux> Crashes to desktop?
[21:17:16] <dark3n> yes
[21:17:21] <dark3n> windows 7 crash window opens
[21:17:23] <FauxFaux> Look in your eclipse folder for "hs_923742890374234..." files.
[21:17:28] <FauxFaux> Oh, even worse.
[21:17:50] <dark3n> any specific folder?
[21:17:59] <dark3n> c:\eclipse\ doesnt have any files like those
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[21:18:17] <FauxFaux> This is a different kind of crash which is basically unheard of and requires much, much more effort to diagnose. :/
[21:18:34] <dark3n> i don't understand why, it was working fine for weeks
[21:18:44] <dark3n> i didnt update java or eclipse
[21:18:51] <ronr_> does it crash on a new workspace?
[21:18:52] <dark3n> and i believe android neither
[21:18:54] <dark3n> yes
[21:19:04] <FauxFaux> Windows event viewer will have more details on the crash, but nowhere near enough to be useful.
[21:19:10] <dark3n> on any android project when opening the graphical layout editor
[21:19:32] <dark3n> currently downloading the 5th eclipse version to test...
[21:19:45] <dark3n> eclipse classic 32bit will be next
[21:20:03] <FauxFaux> (That doesn't mean you shouldn't look.)
[21:20:24] <dark3n> FauxFaux: which window do you mean?
[21:20:36] <FauxFaux> Search Windows for "event viewer".
[21:20:56] <dark3n> this here probably doesnt help at all: http://pastie.org/2019458
[21:21:20] <ronr_> that's from the event viewer?
[21:21:29] <dark3n> thats from the window that opens when it crashes
[21:21:45] <FauxFaux> That's about all you'd get from event viewer; yeah, it's a segfault in Java.  Viruses? :)
[21:21:47] <dark3n> looking at the event viewer now
[21:21:50] <ronr_> well, it's definitely the jdk.
[21:22:27] <dark3n> which jdk should i choose ?
[21:22:45] <dark3n> i got jdk kit 6 update 25, 32bit
[21:22:50] <ronr_> just reinstall whatever you have, for starters.
[21:22:52] <dark3n> 64bit didnt work either
[21:23:06] <FauxFaux> Something is seriously wrong if this is reproducable across those.
[21:23:06] <ronr_> is your os 32 or 64 bit?
[21:23:09] <dark3n> doesnt help, i have already installed 10 different version
[21:23:15] <dark3n> mine is 64bit
[21:23:33] <ronr_> okay, can you install update 24?
[21:23:45] <dark3n> do you have a link?
[21:23:56] <dark3n> 64bit or 32bit
[21:27:53] <ronr_> I have a link for the jre download, not the jdk.
[21:27:56] <dark3n> ok found it
[21:28:01] <dark3n> should i try 64bit or 32bit
[21:28:07] <ronr_> 64.
[21:28:21] <dark3n> ok i removed previous java versions, im gonna reboot
[21:28:23] <dark3n> brb 1min
[21:29:36] <dark3n> re
[21:30:26] <dark3n> im going to install jre-6u24-windows-x64.exe and eclipse-SDK-3.6.2-win32-x86_64.zip now
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[21:30:34] <dark3n> ah dam its jre...
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[21:31:17] <ronr_> https://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_Developer-Site/en_US/-/USD/ViewProductDetail-Start?ProductRef=jdk-6u24-oth-JPR@CDS-CDS_Developer
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[21:31:51] <dark3n> thanks
[21:32:41] <dark3n> hm horribly slow :D
[21:33:01] <ronr_> wait, let me fix that for you....
[21:34:45] <dark3n> hm found it here http://www.filestube.com/cNfQBjgIaEuugW2c4p8cjr/jdk-6u24-windows-x64.html
[21:34:49] <dark3n> should be the same file?
[21:35:20] <ronr_> should.
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[21:35:43] <dark3n> at least maxes out my connection, the sun.com link was around 30KB/s
[21:37:59] <dark3n> installing jdk
[21:39:11] <dark3n> should the Path variable point to JRE/bin or JDK/bin
[21:42:44] <dark3n> set it to jre/bin, installing android adt eclipse plugin
[21:45:17] <dark3n> crash..
[21:46:35] <ronr_> have you checked the event viewer?
[21:47:18] <dark3n> http://pastie.org/2019552
[21:51:14] <ronr_> what do you get when you run java -version on cmd?
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[21:54:57] <dark3n> java version "1.6.0_24"
[21:54:57] <dark3n> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07)
[21:54:57] <dark3n> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 19.1-b02, mixed mode)
[21:56:17] <ronr_> well, I give up.
[21:56:27] <dark3n> thanks anyways =(
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[22:04:33] <dark3n> is there an option to get more debug output from eclipse
[22:04:36] <dark3n> to investigate the crash
[22:04:57] <ronr_> umm
[22:05:13] <ronr_> do you have an nVidia card?
[22:05:22] <dark3n> yes
[22:05:28] <dark3n> two actually
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[22:05:52] <ronr_> and if I tell you 'DisplayLink', does that tell you anything?
[22:06:16] <dark3n> i have read that somewhere but i don't know what it means
[22:06:53] <dark3n> ok i now know what it is
[22:06:57] <dark3n> whats with it ?
[22:07:01] <ronr_> and do you have it installed?
[22:07:05] <dark3n> no
[22:09:58] <ronr_> when did it stop working?
[22:10:14] <ronr_> or rather, when was the last time it did work?
[22:12:14] <dark3n> hm dont know some days ago
[22:12:50] <dark3n> hm
[22:13:07] <dark3n> i think i fixed it but im not sure how
[22:13:24] <ronr_> yay.
[22:17:02] <dark3n> wtf
[22:17:07] <dark3n> its my 3rd screen
[22:17:13] <dark3n> on the extra graphics card
[22:17:15] <dark3n> when i unplug it
[22:17:17] <dark3n> it works
[22:17:21] <dark3n> when i plug it in it crashes
[22:17:22] <dark3n> WTF
[22:18:46] <dark3n> if i start it, then plugin my screen, it works too
[22:19:40] <dark3n> ronr_: any idea?
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[22:30:55] <dark3n> hm...
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[22:47:48] <dark3n> so is this an android eclipse or java bug
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[23:09:50] <futilius> EGit seems to have forgotten that it was managing my project. Any idea what could be causing this?
[23:13:01] <FauxFaux> What happens when you remanage it?
[23:13:25] <futilius> let me try that
[23:14:13] <futilius> hmm it seems to be tracked judging by the "Team" context menu on the project, but all the git operations are disabled and all the little Team icons on files are gone
[23:14:29] <futilius> and no history. basically no other sign of being tracked
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