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[00:08:34] <fuuubar> hi, i want my RCP app to execute code on starting after the workbench has been initialised.. where is the best place to do this?
[00:08:38] <fuuubar> thx
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[00:24:04] <paulweb515_> fuuubar: There's a post method in WorkbenchAdvisor
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[00:27:29] <fuuubar> thx paulweb515_ i see the postStartup() method.. great! is this better than using the org.eclipse.ui.startup extension?
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[00:39:23] <paulweb515_> fuuubar: in your own RCP app, definitely.  Although in an RCP app, it really doesn't matter as its your app
[00:40:26] <paulweb515_> fuuubar: in general we discourage the use of ui.startup in plugins to the IDE ... there are very few reasons to start up your plugin before a user action, and you don't want to start up a plugin with UI contributions (views, actions, menu contributions) as the framework is free to load all of your contributions after your plugin starts up
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[01:04:02] <fuuubar> paulweb515_: excellent thanks for the clarification !
[01:05:50] <fuuubar> how can i programatically get a particular launch configuration from the set of all launch configurations defined in the workspace?
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[01:19:57] <fuuubar> don't worry, i've now found this! http://www.eclipse.org/articles/Article-Java-launch/launching-java.html
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[02:36:29] <WXZ> paulweb515_: how do I echo my bug?
[02:36:52] <rcjsuen> WXZ: he just means provide the link here on IRC
[02:36:58] <WXZ> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=347878
[02:37:07] <WXZ> I thought it was some kind of bot command
[02:37:30] <rcjsuen> well, you could if you want
[02:37:32] <rcjsuen> ~347878
[02:37:33] <Arbalest> Bug 347878 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=347878 - JDT / Core / 3.7 - PC / Windows XP - NEW / major / - Assignee: jdt-core-inbox - Format source does not work at all on very large projects with multiple non-syntax errors.
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[02:43:40] <paulweb515_> WXZ: thanx
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[04:12:09] <WXZ> paulweb515_: yeah, I did an actual-actual check
[04:12:19] <WXZ> formatting does absolutely nothing
[04:12:44] <cyrus_mc> I have two projects. Project A and project B. Project B requires Project A to compile. How do I specify project A as a library to project B to complete this dependency)
[04:13:16] <WXZ> cyrus_mc: right click your project, go to build path > configure build path
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[04:15:38] <cyrus_mc> WXZ: ok..thanks. I will give that a try
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[04:23:30] <WXZ> holly man, I am pissed off... I just diffed the packages before and after the format
[04:23:41] <WXZ> 550~ files, 0 changes
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[04:30:40] <bobbyz> quick question...if I have a project that uses one top-level ant build.xml that builds multiple separate modules from subdirectories, what is the recommended way to set this up in eclipse in terms of projects and workspaces?
[04:30:53] <fuuubar> can anyone point me to some information on the ways to handle errors in an RCP application? ie: via the log, or StatusManger, or modal dialog prompt or some other mechanism?
[04:31:00] <bobbyz> all of those subdirectories would be using their own build.xml
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[09:27:59] <atx> hello, i've some trouble with GC.setAlpha() it works fine but if i use it to much (say for 2 or 3 figures) my gui gets laggy. i googled it and it seems to be a known problem. any suggestions how to circumvent it?
[09:28:35] <ronr_> wtf is GC.setAlpha()?
[09:29:53] <atx> sorry i meant: Graphics g; g.setAlpha(alpha);
[09:30:26] <atx> org.eclipse.draw2d.Graphics
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[09:35:52] <Trudko> guys is there anythining like spelling error view in eclipse? Or how can I see all spelling errors in eclipse at once
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[09:57:43] <sten> hey
[09:57:54] <sten> how do i set tab width of my own editor in eclipse?
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[10:07:57] <sten> got it
[10:07:59] <sten> ty
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[10:09:46] <Trudko> guys is there anythining like spelling error view in eclipse? Or how can I see all spelling errors in eclipse at once
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[10:21:22] <ronr_> Trudko: asking more than once is a bit inappropriate. nevertheless, I checked it, and I can't seem to find a way to do it. it seems there's the option to do it, but it doesn't work.
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[10:22:06] <Trudko> ronr_: yeah u are right i waited for almost 30 minutes and I saw few more people to join in.
[10:22:23] <ronr_> right, normally you ought to wait a little longer :)
[10:22:32] <ronr_> did you try searching google or the ~forums ?
[10:22:33] <Arbalest> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/
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[10:23:40] <farrukhjon> Hi all help me why in Ubuntu 10.04 Eclipse Galileo does not show the menu icons in New creating Project for example pakage class e.t.c
[10:24:46] <ronr_> can you help me understand why you use Galileo? :)
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[11:34:01] <ljc> Hello, i have just install a plugin to eclipse java EE devlopper.,. Hox can i remove it
[11:34:02] <ljc> ?
[11:34:10] <ljc> I want to remove it now
[11:34:12] <ljc> ?
[11:34:16] <ljc> How can i do this
[11:34:18] <ljc> ?
[11:34:43] <ljc> Hye aany one here ?
[11:35:04] <a0sle> hmm
[11:36:03] <ljc> ?
[11:37:59] <ljc> hey forgot about my question,
[11:38:04] <ljc> resolved now
[11:38:06] <ljc> :)
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[11:53:29] <ljc> Hey, what is the difference between eclipse classic and eclipse for java developpers
[11:53:30] <ljc> ?
[11:54:45] <atx> Since I'm time to time offline I created a StackOverflow question: http://stackoverflow.com/q/6199323/779057 so if you have an idea how to improve my alphablending problem please let me know
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[11:56:11] <Dakylla> hi
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[11:57:00] <Dakylla> I have a project imported from netbeans, and i would like eclipse to use jni datasources declared in META-INF/context.xml
[11:57:15] <Dakylla> hos do i do that please ?
[11:57:37] <rcjsuen> ljc: the downlods page has a link to compare the packages, no?
[11:57:49] <ljc> i dont know
[11:57:55] <rcjsuen> atx: You should try asking on the Eclipse forums if you haven't alrdy
[11:57:56] <ljc> i am there now
[11:58:15] <rcjsuen> well the last time i went there it was there anyway
[11:58:18] <ljc> but i dont find such link
[11:58:20] <ljc> ?
[11:58:39] <atx> rcjsuen: i haven't but thanks for the advice
[11:58:42] <ljc> Could you give the link please
[11:59:28] <ljc> ok
[11:59:33] <ljc> i fond it
[11:59:37] 
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[11:59:39] <ljc> :)
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[12:06:31] <ljc> ok but for what type of use the classic eclipse edition is intended
[12:06:32] <ljc> ?
[12:06:36] <ljc> ???
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[12:12:00] <ljc> ok but for what type of use the classic eclipse edition is intended
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[12:15:51] <bid> hello, where can i get jquery plugin for helios?
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[12:43:55] <ljc> Hello, i am using eclipse for Java EE developpers and i want To add perspective in the IDE for support of SOA and Modeling?
[12:44:04] <ljc> Hwo can i do this ?
[12:44:42] <ljc> Is it by checking the eclipse marketplace
[12:44:44] <ljc> ?
[12:44:51] <ljc> I dont know exactly
[12:45:00] <ljc> but any suggestion please ?
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[12:46:48] <ljc> Anys
[12:46:56] <ljc> uggestion please ?
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[12:51:45] <ljc> I have eclipse for java EE developpers and eclipse for SOA. How can i add the second eclipse to first so i can acces SOA in a separate perspective
[12:51:47] <ljc> ?
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[12:55:10] <ronr_> if they are two different installation, you'd want to install the plugins of one onto the other.
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[13:20:57] <ronr_> can anyone recommend an actionscript editor for eclipse?
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[13:26:33] <Onepamopa> anyone knows how to change color of "comments" and "affected paths" ?
[13:26:49] <Onepamopa> comments is in black, good, but affected paths is almost white, impossible to read
[13:26:59] <paulweb515> Onepamopa: what kind of editor?
[13:27:15] <rcjsuen_> "affected paths"?
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[13:27:59] <bid> how can i fix this: "Could not create the view: org/eclipse/wst/jsdt/core/JavaScriptModelException" i installed jquerywtp and this is the result :(
[13:28:47] <FauxFaux> Sounds like you should talk to the jquerywtp guy.
[13:29:12] <bid> yeah, i hope the backup will work
[13:36:12] <Onepamopa> rcjsuen http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/blalf.jpg/
[13:36:36] <Onepamopa> this
[13:37:44] <rcjsuen> I guess that's Subversion.
[13:37:49] <rcjsuen> I don't have that problem, but I use CVS.
[13:38:09] <FauxFaux> It's greying out files not used in this commit.
[13:38:24] <FauxFaux> Uh, files that aren't the current file in the current commit.
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[13:46:55] <kaprasanna> Helios rocks. Much faster. Kudos.
[13:51:18] <Onepamopa> blah, noone about colors ?
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[14:15:22] <bid> jquerywpt is good, the problem was on me. its working fine now
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[14:18:52] <sten> how do i find out the result of the build
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[14:19:04] <sten> at the time of having a post_build event
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[14:43:40] <paulweb515> sten: what does "the result of the build" mean?
[14:43:50] <paulweb515> sten: you mean if there were any errors?
[14:44:00] <sten> paulweb515 exactly
[14:44:11] <sten> paulweb515: i do not want to parse build console
[14:44:18] <paulweb515> sten: use the IMarkers API
[14:44:20] <sten> paulweb515 there should be another solution
[14:44:39] <paulweb515> sten: http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/t/210425/
[14:44:43] <sten> paulweb515 next question: how do i find out the default tab width
[14:44:45] <sten> ?
[14:45:11] <paulweb515> sten: the default tab width of ... what?
[14:45:37] <sten> of the cdt c++ editor )
[14:45:45] <sten> it is actually somewhere in the project - conde style
[14:46:09] <paulweb515> sten: then it will be a preference somewhere for the C/C++ editor
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[14:47:00] <sten> yea, but how do i access that stuff?
[14:47:05] <sten> btw the other solution was findMaxProblemSeverity
[14:47:07] <sten> i think
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[14:49:01] <sten> paulweb515 hm, what is the right way to find that out?
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[15:03:09] <sdgefh> hi all
[15:04:32] <sdgefh> i'm using subclipse with subversion, i have a question about synchronize, it shows with a black arrow with plus inside a folder .settings from my project, can i tell subclipse to skip this every time i synchronize?
[15:05:34] <rcjsuen> Well, you could add it to .svnignore I guess.
[15:06:01] <sdgefh> well let me tell you the whole story
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[15:07:08] <sdgefh> i use eclipse with subclipse plugin for php dev. and i created a new project from subversion using subclipse plugin. Now isn't .settings folder and .buildpath file locals to my own project? and i don't need to commit them so others can fetch my settings when they update
[15:07:13] <sdgefh> do i get it wrong?
[15:08:21] <rcjsuen> That'd depend on whether you want things standardized or not.
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[15:08:32] <sdgefh> yes i do
[15:08:36] <sdgefh> i like standards :)
[15:08:37] <rcjsuen> As an example, though I don't know if it applies for PHP or not
[15:08:44] <rcjsuen> something in .settings/ might say
[15:08:57] <rcjsuen> "All PHP files must start with Company X Confidential licensed blah blah blah"
[15:08:58] <sdgefh> well for php i don't think it matters since there's no compile
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[15:09:04] <sdgefh> oh
[15:09:07] <sdgefh> we don't have that
[15:09:07] <rcjsuen> so anyone that gets your proj and makes a new php file
[15:09:12] <rcjsuen> will have that header auto-gen'd
[15:09:18] <sdgefh> no idea
[15:09:24] <rcjsuen> well, I am merely giving an example
[15:09:33] <rcjsuen> of the stuff you might see, that's controlled by the contents of the .settings/ folder
[15:09:45] <rcjsuen> this is one form of a "standard"
[15:09:53] <sdgefh> so if we don't use anything like that, is it safe for me to tell synchronize to commit my .settings?
[15:09:58] <sten> how can i get from document
[15:10:02] <sten> to containing project?
[15:10:08] <sten> i have the idocument
[15:10:13] <sten> bud how do i come higher?
[15:10:16] <rcjsuen> sten: I don't think you can.
[15:10:29] <rcjsuen> theoretically it could just be a string literal
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[15:11:33] <sten> rcjsuen: well i implement my own editor... and i need to get the default tab with which is a setting for a project
[15:11:35] <sten> hmmm
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[15:11:50] <rcjsuen> well, if you have an opened editor you should know what its input is...
[15:12:58] <sdgefh> rcjsuen, the .settings folder that synchronize shows is inside my workspace in /home/myuser/workspace/project/.settings do you know of any way to make subclipse ignore it?
[15:15:14] <rcjsuen> <rcjsuen> Well, you could add it to .svnignore I guess.
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[15:16:43] <sdgefh> found the folder in navigator, and team->svn ignore
[15:16:44] <sdgefh> thanks
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[15:20:10] <sten> hmmm
[15:20:13] <sten> getOption(DefaultCodeFormatterConstants.FORMATTER_TAB_CHAR
[15:20:19] <sten> is this a clue for you?
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[15:27:00] <sten> :(
[15:27:27] <paulweb515> sten: huh?  You'll have to look through the code to find out what they do
[15:28:47] <sten> paulweb515: but where do i have to start?
[15:28:59] <sten> paulweb515: i am not sure where the standard c editor is :(
[15:29:21] <sten> sten: and how he does know his tabwidth
[15:29:22] <paulweb515> sten: org.eclipse.cdt
[15:29:51] <paulweb515> sten: you can check out the source by using File>Import...>Plug-ins and fragments and selecting "Import from repository"
[15:30:46] <sten> and then all cdt source
[15:30:47] <sten> ok
[15:30:55] <sten> and then, what is the clue for the tabwidth?
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[15:31:02] <sten> it is somehow project dependend aswell
[15:31:42] <paulweb515> sten: I don't know where they store their tab width information ... can you find it on their editor preference page?
[15:31:54] <sten> yes
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[15:32:06] <sten> so i have to start from ui somewhere?
[15:33:24] <sten> paulweb515 hmm i can not find cdt
[15:33:34] <sten> while importing plugins and fragments from repository
[15:33:35] <sten> though cdt is installed
[15:34:20] <sten> i will import the whole code thru cvs
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[16:02:22] <sk4tsh> hello everybody
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[16:06:24] <sk4tsh> Can someone tell me how to add "-std=c99" compiler option globally for all CDT projects?
[16:06:38] <sten> hmm
[16:06:47] <sten> do you use the build system?
[16:06:52] <sten> or own make files?
[16:06:58] <sk4tsh> build system
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[16:07:40] <sten> but it calls make? does it?
[16:08:21] <sk4tsh> uhm i think so
[16:08:57] <Scorpion1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dgv_oT_iJRw
[16:09:03] <sk4tsh> On per project level I can easily set Properties->C/C++ Build-> Environment
[16:10:22] <sten> which one do u set?
[16:10:27] <sten> CCFLAGS?
[16:10:39] <sten> there is a global environment aswell
[16:10:53] <sten> window->preferences
[16:11:06] <sten> c/c++->build>envirnoment
[16:11:07] <sk4tsh> ok
[16:11:18] <sten> u just set CCFLAGS, right?
[16:11:22] <sk4tsh> yes
[16:12:45] <sten> u may do a hack and change CC
[16:12:56] <sten> to "gcc -std=99"
[16:14:35] <sk4tsh> i see...
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[16:28:06] <sten> is there no way to get from IDocument to project?
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[16:28:40] <paulweb515> sten: depends, what's the IDocument?
[16:29:13] <sten> no idea ;)
[16:29:19] <sten> i am hhere    public int getTabWidth(ISourceViewer sourceViewer) {
[16:29:30] <sten> now from sourceViewer i need to come up to project
[16:29:35] <sten> to get its paramteres
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[16:51:24] <sk4tsh> ok thank you sten, it's working
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[16:52:39] <sten> sk4tsh: np ) now just someone needs to help me
[16:53:08] <sten> so i have the object
[16:53:10] <sten> org.eclipse.jface.text.source.SourceViewer
[16:53:39] <sten> from that i need to get up to project =)
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[16:54:46] <nitind> sten: More, do you have any idea where that IDocument or source viewer came from?
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[16:56:55] <sten> nitind: it is the document i view in my editor, it is located in the project
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[16:59:31] <sr___> hey there
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[17:01:57] <sr___> quick question
[17:02:21] <sr___> I want to encapsulate some SWT graphical components into one class easy to use
[17:02:33] <sr___> should this class inherits a Composite? a Control?
[17:02:39] <sr___> what's the SWT way of doing?
[17:03:02] <paulweb515> sr___: most create an object that takes a Composite and then fills in what's needed
[17:03:28] <paulweb515> sr___: but it is acceptable to subclass Composite or Canvas if you really think your object is a widget, as opposed to a functional composer
[17:04:00] <sr___> ok thx
[17:04:05] <sr___> that's what I was looking for :)
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[17:05:15] <rcjsuen> Well, definitely not extend Control anyway.
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[17:07:46] <sr___> ok
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[18:37:50] <RedEyess> Hi
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[18:38:32] <RedEyess> I am using Mac OS X 10.6.7 with Eclipse 3.6 and when I edit a JSP file, Eclipse becomes unresponsive.
[18:38:38] <RedEyess> What's the deal?
[18:38:46] <RedEyess> What can I do to solve this problem?
[18:39:04] <RedEyess> I don't have any additional plugins installed.
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[18:43:24] <RedEyess> I am using build 1.6.0_24-b07-334
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[18:56:02] <paulweb515> RedEyess: ~deadlock
[18:56:02] <Arbalest> In a deadlock? http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/How_to_report_a_deadlock
[19:01:59] <RedEyess> thanks
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[19:07:34] <nitind> You know, or update to 3.6.2 and WTP 3.2.4.
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[19:12:22] <JeffJassky> hey, guys. Is it possible to find/replace instances of a new line?
[19:12:43] <rcjsuen> i think so if you use the regex search
[19:13:00] <JeffJassky> Ah gotchya
[19:13:57] <JeffJassky> Perfect. Thanks, guys.
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[19:59:49] <pulse00> hi there. anyone knows how to  install the web tools' sdk plugin? ie. to extend some wtp editors from within a plugin?
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[20:02:05] <nitind> What have you tried so far, in terms of installing?
[20:02:14] <nitind> It should just be a Feature on the Update Site.
[20:03:40] <nitind> Well, a number of them with Source, Developer Resources, or SDK in their names.
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[20:07:38] <pulse00> nitind, i can only find the "regular" wtp feature in update site (indigo)
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[20:15:38] <nitind> pulse00:
[20:17:23] <nitind> It might be simpler to just download the entire WTP SDK from WTP's download page.
[20:17:30] <pulse00> nitind, i think i got it, thanks
[20:17:49] <pulse00> "WST Web Plug-in Developer Resources"
[20:17:52] <pulse00> i guess thats it
[20:18:48] <nitind> No, that's only for the corresponding WST Web Feature.  Nothing to do with editors.
[20:19:11] <pulse00> ah, i see
[20:19:33] <pulse00> you're talking about this here? http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R3.2.4/R-3.2.4-20110511033327/
[20:19:41] <nitind> Yes
[20:19:45] <pulse00> kk, thanks
[20:20:07] <nitind> Unless you can call out specific editors you're looking at.
[20:21:04] <pulse00> what i'm trying to do is to extend the html editor for a specific templating language
[20:21:12] <pulse00> not sure how hard that is yet ;)
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[20:30:42] <ronr_> sorry for repeating the question but there's probably a different crowd now. any recommended actionscript3 plugins?\
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[20:32:17] <pulse00> ronr_, you mean beside adobes flash builder?
[20:33:20] <ronr_> for eclipse, neglected that part :p
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[20:37:13] <ronr_> adobe flash builder isn't free, right?
[20:39:34] <nitind> *shrug*
[20:40:34] <pulse00> ronr_, nope
[20:40:59] <ronr_> oh well.
[20:41:25] <ronr_> just need a simple environment to write some simple actionscript.
[20:42:06] <pulse00> the only free & opensource solution i know is http://www.flashdevelop.org, don't think it's eclipse based though
[20:43:31] <ronr_> well, it may be good enough. thanks for the suggestion.
[20:47:10] <nbf> flash builder is pretty expensive ;)
[20:47:17] <pulse00> indeed
[20:47:32] <nbf> you can use the flex sdk and ant
[20:47:41] <nbf> and add a syntax coloring plugin
[20:48:37] <ronr_> flex sdk with eclipse? or standalone?
[20:48:44] <ronr_> not sure I follow you..
[20:48:50] <nbf> yeah with eclipse from eclipse.org
[20:48:57] <nbf> you can build flash apps with it
[20:48:58] <pulse00> can anyone recommend a startingpoint for extending the WTP html text editor? maybe another plugin which does something similar?
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[20:49:03] <nbf> you get most of the flash libraries
[20:49:32] <ronr_> right, I'm just not sure which flex sdk version I should use, if it matters at all.
[20:49:59] <SirScott> with a shared install where the common configuration and plugins directories are locked down, where would a user's installed plugins go?  ~/.eclipse/plugins/ ?
[20:50:06] <pulse00> ronr_, i think there are a couple of tutorials out there describing how to use the flex sdk without the flashbuilder ide
[20:50:17] <paulweb515> SirScott: somewhere down there ...
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[20:50:49] <ronr_> well, I appreciate the suggestions guys. I can't believe I'm actually going to use actionscript :p
[20:50:49] <BlaDe^> when I try to pull with EGit I get "No value for key branch.master.merge found in configuration"
[20:50:57] <paulweb515> SirScott: probably somewhere like: $HOME/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.6.1_1664091916/plugins
[20:51:12] <BlaDe^> Google says I need to add branch.master.merge=refs/heads/master and branch.master.remote=origin  --- but doesn't say how or where
[20:52:20] <paulweb515> BlaDe^: try http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/m/666758/ (which says the same thing), and they're talking about a better message: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=343638
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[20:53:02] <SirScott> paulweb515: ok, so I'm installing a plugin where that is the case.  It is showing up in "Installed Software", but in the Plug-ins tab, I don't see the plugin's Id, nor do I find it anywhere under ~/.plugins/
[20:53:10] <SirScott> err, ~/.eclipse/
[20:53:19] <BlaDe^> I agree with the report, paulweb515 - I still don't know how to fix it
[20:53:22] <paulweb515> BlaDe^: it says it goes in git specific config ... by file, that would be <repo>/.git/config
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[20:53:44] <BlaDe^> do I edit that manually or within the IDE?
[20:54:04] <paulweb515> SirScott: in my platform dir, there's an artifacts.xml ... check that, it should say where the artifacts are stored
[20:54:14] <paulweb515> BlaDe^: that suggestion is for a manual editing
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[20:54:59] <BlaDe^> ok got it
[20:55:49] <BlaDe^> An internal error occurred during: "Pulling branch master - Project".
[20:55:49] <BlaDe^> java.io.IOException: Unknown repository format
[20:56:24] <BlaDe^> paulweb515: http://pastie.org/private/2obrfjit8mnivbyy1bsbma
[20:56:25] <paulweb515> BlaDe^: where did you clone it from?  Does the origin remote look correct?
[20:56:26] <paulweb515> BlaDe^: in theory, can't you also right-click on the repo (in Git Repositories) and use Fetch... ... that says it allows you to configure a remote repository, which allows you to specify the refs to fetch ...
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[20:56:40] <BlaDe^> I'd like Pull to work - Push works fine
[20:56:52] <paulweb515> BlaDe^: try setting up Fetch... then
[20:57:02] * ronr_ laughs
[20:57:07] <BlaDe^> Fetch is typically for importing from other repos
[20:57:20] <paulweb515> BlaDe^: a Pull is a fetch + a merge ...
[20:57:28] <ronr_> I think Oracle is trying to bring down the eclipse and apache foundations.
[20:57:37] <paulweb515> ronr_: I saw that :-)
[20:57:49] <paulweb515> BlaDe^: if it can't fetch, it can't pull either
[20:58:49] <ronr_> "first, let's create havoc in the open source community... now, after there are enough splits, let's give it a death blow by taking each major project and 'donate' it to one of the major open source foundations. next - all hell breaks loose".
[20:58:51] <ronr_> heh.
[20:59:32] <BlaDe^> paulweb515 that created a new branch
[20:59:54] <ronr_> the license issue is interesting, though.
[21:00:19] <SirScott> paulweb515: i have multiple artifacts.xml files scattered under ~/.eclipse.  For those that have a reference to my plugin, there's no installed location data, only the URL for the .jar
[21:00:30] <paulweb515> BlaDe^: check out your repo config dir file now ... can you infer the correct keys from what it just created?
[21:00:37] <paulweb515> SirScott: what does the URL look like?
[21:00:49] <SirScott> paulweb515: value='http://eclipse.smartbear.com/5.0/plugins/com.smartbear.collaborator.branding_5.0.5024.jar'
[21:01:10] <BlaDe^> paulweb515 fetch isn't a one-time config you do it every time, so it doesn't save it
[21:01:37] <ronr_> aah.. Adobe Flex Builder is eclipse based. I did not know that.
[21:02:23] <BlaDe^> fixed paulweb515 thanks
[21:02:34] <paulweb515> BlaDe^: what did you have to do in the end?
[21:02:38] <ronr_> paulweb515, now you are fixed.
[21:02:49] <BlaDe^> paulweb515_ as you said, pull = fetch+merge
[21:02:52] <BlaDe^> I had to merge the new branch
[21:02:54] <paulweb515> SirScott: is that the artifacts.xml directly in your .eclipse/platform dir?
[21:03:05] <BlaDe^> i'd like Pull to work, but oh well I can live
[21:03:29] <paulweb515> BlaDe^: oh, but that's the new branch ... I'm not sure that helped with your original pull problem
[21:03:48] <BlaDe^> it hasn't, but it synched my branch so I can push again
[21:03:58] <BlaDe^> before the revisions didn't match so it rejected my pushes
[21:04:00] <SirScott> paulweb515: negative, I don't have a ~/.eclipse/platform dir.  All of the artifacts files are found somewhere under ~/.eclipse/org.eclipse.osgi/bundles/Num/data/someOtherNum/artifacts.xml
[21:04:41] <paulweb515> SirScott: those are just caches of whatever it was doing, not part of your install
[21:04:58] <paulweb515> SirScott: you don't have a .eclipse/org.eclipse.platform* dir?
[21:06:08] <SirScott> paulweb515: nope:  http://pastebin.com/75FbsMnT
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[21:09:13] <paulweb515> SirScott: that looks like some eclipse is using your $HOME/.eclipse as the configuration directory
[21:09:32] <paulweb515> SirScott: did it create a $HOME/artifacts.xml or $HOME/p2 directory?
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[21:10:51] <SirScott> paulweb515: ah, yes, that it did.  $HOME/artifacts.xml has references to my plugin.  for the id, only this type of information is underneath each:  <property name='download.size' value='38627'/>
[21:12:01] <paulweb515> SirScott: anything under $HOME/p2 that looks like a plugin? :-)  The other possibility is that it created $HOME/plugins as well
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[21:12:49] <SirScott> paulweb515: ahh, yes, there is ~/plguins/ and all of jar files are there
[21:13:17] <paulweb515> SirScott: another thing you can do is go to Help>About>Installation Details>Configuration tab
[21:13:32] <paulweb515> SirScott: at the bottom would be an entry for your plugin: "Id: org.eclipse.wst.common.snippets, Version: 1.2.100.v201103281740, Location: reference:file:plugins/org.eclipse.wst.common.snippets_1.2.100.v201103281740.jar"
[21:13:35] <SirScott> paulweb515: oh, but that' sthe weird thing
[21:13:41] <SirScott> it doesn't show up in the configuration tab
[21:13:54] <SirScott> paulweb515: it shows up in "Installed Software" but not in Configuration nor in Plug-ins
[21:14:46] <paulweb515> SirScott: I have no idea why your system is in that state.  When eclipse is installed in read-only multi-user mode correctly, it creates that platform dir, and the configuration/ p2/ plugins etc are all under there
[21:16:13] <SirScott> interesting...
[21:18:06] <SirScott> let's say eclipse was installed to /opt/eclipse.  After all of the shared configuration is done, is the proper way to make it a shared config simply 'chmod -R 555 /opt/eclipse/plugins && chmod -R 555 /opt/eclipse/configuration'?
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[21:31:12] <paulweb515> SirScott: AFAIK that's supposed to just work, although normally the root user runs an -initialize flag first.  As long as it's RO for other users, they should get multi-user mode.  I get my info from http://help.eclipse.org/helios/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/misc/multi_user_installs.html
[21:31:17] <paulweb515> gotta run
[21:31:43] <SirScott> paulweb515: yeah that was the doc i was using for guidance.  oh well... thanks for the help!
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[23:10:03] <fisix> why doesn't the eclipse console move the cursor to input locations :S?
[23:11:13] <abhatnag> fisix: input locations?
[23:12:22] <fisix> like lets say i'm making a c++ program and i have cin << myInput;. when the prompt comes on screen, i have to manually click where i can type in the value that goes in myInput...
[23:13:06] <fisix> it's not like a real console which automatically moves my cursor there so i can just type and press enter
[23:16:18] <rcjsuen_> interesting, I thought you could just type anywhere
[23:16:37] <rcjsuen_> It's probably because it's not clear that you want to type stuff in.
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[23:17:54] <fisix> rcjsuen how would i make it clear that i wanna type stuff in? haha
[23:19:16] <rcjsuen_> the text control can't know from a click whether the user intends to type or that the user wants to select/navigate through the text
[23:20:15] <fisix> true, but it should automatically move the cursor to the place where i wanna type, no? unless there's something wrong with my eclipse and it does that for you guys..
[23:20:41] <fisix> *wanna/can type
[23:22:09] <fisix> LOL actually my bad. you can click anywhere and type, it'll just insert the characters where it's supposed to go >___>
[23:23:21] <rcjsuen_> I just tried and yes, it auto jumped for me
[23:23:30] <fisix> good to know
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[23:26:06] <fisix> so the .exe is made in the Debug folder. is the point to compile to some final version folder when done debugging/testing? is there a switch for that?
[23:27:54] <rcjsuen_> I think there's a "Release" or "Releases" folder. But I don't do C/C++.
[23:28:12] <fisix> ohh cool. do u know how to switch to the release folder?
[23:29:12] <rcjsuen_> You must've missed my second sentence. :)
[23:29:26] <fisix> baah it's probably the same though i'd imagine..
[23:29:45] <rcjsuen_> Same as what?
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[23:30:25] <fisix> same for whatever ur coding in. like u just set it in eclipse. not really a c-specific thing..
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[23:30:46] <rcjsuen> On the contrary, there is only a bin/ folder for Java. :)
[23:31:02] <fisix> ohhh really. no debug folder?
[23:31:44] <rcjsuen> If there was one I wouldn't have said what I said now would I. ;)
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[23:31:56] <fisix> >: )
[23:32:37] <rcjsuen> I guess the setup is something like this http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TujYACne0g4/TaFWKAgi3hI/AAAAAAAAR-s/xfFtdjC1IYA/s1600/Screenshot-2.png
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[23:33:49] <fisix> yep. ahh all u need to do is right click the project, c++ build, dropdown debug -> release
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[23:35:23] <fisix> hmmm it doesnt make the release folder though.. and it sets itself back to debug :S
[23:35:46] <fisix> ohh u need to edit and set active
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