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[00:45:51] <palla> hello :)
[00:45:54] <palla> i have a small problem
[00:46:25] <palla> in my java project, i have the folder projectname/war/WEB-INF
[00:46:35] <palla> in that folder i want to add a folder named classes
[00:46:55] <palla> but, for some reason, whenever i create that folder, it doesnt show up in the package explorer
[00:46:56] <palla> its somehow hidden
[00:47:04] <palla> any hints on how i can get it visual
[00:47:15] <palla> its like the name "classes" is filtered somehow
[00:48:06] <palla> to add to that, i went in to the filters section and unchecked everything
[00:48:10] <palla> still its not visible
[00:48:29] <palla> kinda frustrating because its such a stupid error to be stuck on
[00:48:36] <palla> any hints ?
[00:49:17] <nitind> Output folders are hidden since they're not important.  Focus on your sources.
[00:50:08] <palla> i need access to this folder from eclipse because thats where i need to put struts.xml
[00:50:17] <palla> im trying to configure struts2
[00:50:44] <palla> any way to disable the hiding of output folders ?
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[00:54:34] <palla> is it possible that certain type of project wizard will hide certain folders ?
[00:54:44] <palla> im using the google app-engine as project setup
[00:54:51] <rcjsuen> Projects are irrelevant, it's the view that does the filtering.
[00:55:02] <rcjsuen> If you want a flat file system look, you can use the 'Navigator'.
[00:55:04] <palla> and as it seem to work is that app engine builds the project on their server
[00:55:15] <palla> so maybe thats why classes are not visible
[00:55:57] <palla> thanks will try and find the Navigator
[00:56:38] <palla> rcjsuen: thanx that did the trick
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[00:56:58] <palla> so since i was looking through the "package explorer" i dodnt see the full file system layout
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[00:59:16] <rcjsuen> Well, it filters stuff out (such as the output folder).
[00:59:27] <rcjsuen> altho that can be customized
[01:01:02] <palla> ok, thanx very much :)
[01:01:17] <palla> always nice to get good answers in here
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[01:04:47] <jayjay_> m, I'm getting "Can't rename some/path/maven.123234234" error while checking some project out as maven project in eclipse
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[01:04:57] <jayjay_> any clue what's happening?
[01:05:12] <jayjay_> (i'm using m2eclipse plugin)
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[01:09:35] <NoobFukaire> what OS?
[01:14:25] <trentcreek> What is that HPC plugin for eclipse?
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[01:29:19] <jair> NoobFukaire: finally check this out =) http://paste.debian.net/55206/
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[01:29:41] <NoobFukaire> :)
[01:30:07] <jair> NoobFukaire: I try a couple of versions of java but it was giving me this GCJ warning until I installed the sun java version and works now.
[01:30:40] <NoobFukaire> yeah gcj isn't fully compatible, especially with big apps like eclipse
[01:32:31] <jair> NoobFukaire: I am good to go now! basically what I am trying to get the environment ready for is: 1) learn php, apache, mysql java script 2) create a dynamic web inventory for my projects at work, something on a very basic html or xhtml form with css and all the LAMP environment in the background.
[01:32:52] <jair> NoobFukaire: alright my friend. Thanks again I will be away reading and working  alittle bit on it
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[01:50:05] <jair> exit
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[02:51:03] <Steve_> yo
[02:51:05] <Steve_> i have a new question
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[02:51:20] <Steve_> the folder war/WEB-INF/classes
[02:51:31] <Steve_> is an output folder as someone mentioned earlier
[02:51:45] <Steve_> so, when i rerun my project, it gets cleared out or so it seems
[02:52:03] <Steve_> but, the struts2 framework requires struts.xml to be located in that folder
[02:52:14] <Steve_> aint that kinda problematic
[02:52:28] <Steve_> so each time i rerun my project that file mysteriously disappears
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[02:53:05] <palla> is that the default behavior and can i prevent that file from being wiped ?
[02:53:39] <palla> im using the google app engine project template so i guess that may affect how things are built, the build process seems kinda hidden compared to when using ant for example
[02:53:49] <rcjsuen> Place it in a source folder so it gets copied over. Or so it works with regular Java applications anyway.
[02:54:08] <palla> you just hit "run" and it hosts a server and averything, so it might as well wipe the whole classes folder as well
[02:54:30] <palla> aha
[02:54:32] <palla> nice :)
[02:55:29] <palla> thanx
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[03:01:21] <RenatoSilva> can I edit someone else's attachment in bugzilla?
[03:02:39] <rcjsuen> You can upload new attachments.
[03:02:47] <rcjsuen> You can't just change other attachments though.
[03:02:57] <rcjsuen> That'd be pretty weird imo.
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[03:04:56] <nitind> If you're a committer, you can make limited changes.  The mime type is the big one.
[03:05:02] <RenatoSilva> ok thanks, and hi
[03:05:20] <nitind> hello
[03:05:45] <rcjsuen> oh mime change, troo
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[03:20:47] <RenatoSilva> I ask this because I have a script attached, but it's for ganymede
[03:21:11] <RenatoSilva> I think the bug is the script's home, I don't want to maintain it here at home or anywhere
[03:22:00] <RenatoSilva> so if no one will never delete it (so that it doesn't disappear from universe), then that's ok
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[03:36:12] <rcjsuen> You could always put it on github or something
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[03:36:48] <RenatoSilva> no account, no interest, besides I don't want it related to me
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[03:37:06] <RenatoSilva> I have it in launchpad.net, but will delete it soon
[03:37:14] <rcjsuen> Isn't it related to you since you attach it to Bugzilla? :o
[03:37:59] <RenatoSilva> it's a bug attachment, not part of "renatosilva's code"
[03:38:22] <RenatoSilva> in github or LP I mean
[03:38:58] * RenatoSilva doesn't like to carry lot of files in his hd or some code hosting
[03:40:34] * RenatoSilva is currently trying to figure out how to get rid of a document he wrote describing how to install a magazine's delphi 4 in windows xp
[03:40:58] <rcjsuen> ?
[03:41:38] <RenatoSilva> some magazine distributed delphi 4 a few years ago, but when you try to install in windows xp, it doesn't work
[03:42:08] <rcjsuen> Seems you really like to stay on the down low / keep your anonymity.
[03:42:25] <RenatoSilva> you need workarounds, which are documented in a local file. Although I may need it, I don't want it
[03:43:00] <RenatoSilva> it's sort of file-cleaning-syndrome
[03:43:26] <rcjsuen> Oh, I thought this was a published document.
[03:43:53] <rcjsuen> Put it on Wikibooks or something then.
[03:44:32] <RenatoSilva> I've found a delphi wiki I could publish and then delete my local copy, but it requires creating some account, bah
[03:45:02] <RenatoSilva> not sure if wikibooks would be a suitable place, they'd probably delete it
[03:45:15] <rcjsuen> The history would still be there if you need it.
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[03:45:25] <rcjsuen> Because right now, only you have access to the document either way.
[03:46:21] <RenatoSilva> when they delete pages, only admins can, internally, see the history
[03:46:31] <RenatoSilva> i.e. afaik
[03:46:32] <rcjsuen> oh, you mean delete thepage itself
[03:46:36] <rcjsuen> then yeah
[03:47:09] <RenatoSilva> and I need a pt-br site, since no one else in the world knows the magazine
[03:47:25] <RenatoSilva> http://delphi.wikia.com/wiki/Delphi_Wiki
[03:48:01] <RenatoSilva> I need some paste bin, but I don't know one that keep the content forever
[03:48:38] <deSilva> pastebin.ca ?
[03:49:17] <RenatoSilva> hi deSilva, I think I know you
[03:49:38] <RenatoSilva> you're from India right?
[03:49:58] <deSilva> nope, a rather different place, Sweden ;)
[03:50:27] <deSilva> but we have spoken before, yes
[03:50:29] <RenatoSilva> well, I'm seeing that there's a new Delphi 2010? Are they using RCP?
[03:50:48] <RenatoSilva> deSilva: maybe because of our same last name
[03:51:03] <deSilva> I suppose so
[03:51:11] <RenatoSilva> I've heard JBuilder at some point of time would migrate to an Eclipse-like platform
[03:51:31] <RenatoSilva> I wonder whether that crap still exists, and if Delphi is also Eclipse-like now
[03:53:20] <RenatoSilva> is pastebin.ca indexed by google? I put some draft code in pastie.org and now it disappeared :(
[03:53:47] <deSilva> RenatoSilva: I don't know
[03:55:08] <RenatoSilva> http://pastebin.ca/1731397
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[04:54:56] <neekers> hi, I just installed nsisEclipse to create nsis installers. I can't seem to figure out how to create a new project. I dont see it listed in projects and I dont see an nsis perspective. Does anyone have any experience with this?
[04:56:11] <neekers> I do see an EclipseNSIS section in preferences so it seems to be installed
[04:57:08] <rcjsuen> neekers: Did you try editing nsi files?
[04:57:50] <neekers> rcjsuen: not yet, I have read the nsis documentation but I'm just creating my first script now
[05:01:09] <neekers> ok, just created an empty project and added a .nsi file. I know see an nsis commands tab at the bottom
[05:01:42] <neekers> god forbid they might create a small tutorial explaining how to start... :)
[05:02:35] <neekers> rcjsuen: thanks
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[05:03:05] <rcjsuen> neekers: You mean on how to write nsi files? Or how to use the plug-in?
[05:03:19] <neekers> on how to use the plug-in
[05:03:37] <neekers> I've found the many tutorials on how to write scripts
[05:03:58] <neekers> and read quite a few of them
[05:04:08] <rcjsuen> neekers: This? http://eclipsensis.sourceforge.net/help/index.html
[05:04:21] <rcjsuen> You might also try looking in the 'Help' menu.
[05:04:29] <rcjsuen> The same content may have been installed in your Eclipse instance.
[05:04:40] <neekers> rcjsuen: yes, that's just what i've been reading
[05:05:14] <neekers> but there is no explanation of how to start, just a description of various parts of the plugin from what i've seen so far
[05:06:28] <neekers> you're telling me to create an .nsi file was really all i needed... they should explain that...
[05:07:03] <neekers> your even
[05:07:53] <rcjsuen> Well, it sounds like youshould be abel to make new scripts from the wizard
[05:07:56] <rcjsuen> (instead of new projects)
[05:08:59] <neekers> you mean the wizard *outside* of eclipse?
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[05:09:34] <neekers> oh wait...
[05:10:00] <rcjsuen> Well, there's File > New... > Other...
[05:10:03] <skullbox> hello is anyone here knowledgeable in adding new prospectives to eclipse in linux?
[05:10:04] <rcjsuen> then go thru that list in the dialog
[05:10:06] <neekers> there is now a EclipseNSIS menu in eclipse now
[05:10:18] <rcjsuen> skullbox: You mean perspectives?
[05:10:25] <skullbox> yes ty
[05:10:36] <neekers> got it.. thanks rcjsuen
[05:11:13] <rcjsuen> skullbox: You write plug-ins to contribute perspectives.
[05:12:02] <skullbox> i installed Galileo and it seems to be bare bones, and wen i tried adding the address for the C/C++ from eclipses main page it keeps telling me i cant install them because it depends on mylene....so i try to install mylene and i gues smylene also requires mylene...im lost
[05:12:51] <rcjsuen> skullbox: What file did you download? Where did you untar?
[05:12:53] <deSilva> last time I installed cdt, I downloaded the .zip and installed it on the SDK edition and CDT was self-contained
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[05:13:11] <gh0st3r> ive got a basic repo with nothing in it on an SVN server, i have subclipse installed in eclipse, now how the hell do i use eclipse? I'm not sure how to create files and then check them into the SVN repo
[05:13:15] <skullbox> rcjsuen, i installed from the ubuntu repos
[05:13:42] <deSilva> gh0st3r: team->share?
[05:14:03] <gh0st3r> deSilvia, where is this team menu? its not on my eclipse :(
[05:14:04] <rcjsuen> skullbox: I don't know how the provisioning system plays with the distro installation I'm afraid.
[05:14:10] <rcjsuen> gh0st3r: Right-click on a project.
[05:14:21] <skullbox> Eclipse SDK
[05:14:21] <skullbox> Version: 3.5.1
[05:14:21] <skullbox> Build id: M20090917-0800
[05:14:26] <skullbox> thats the one it installed
[05:15:21] <skullbox> doesn anyone know of a link that has eclipse with ALL the languages included?
[05:16:04] <rcjsuen> There are a lot of programming languages out there...and no, there isn't one.
[05:16:11] <skullbox> lame
[05:17:07] <gh0st3r> rcjsuen, thanks :) now how do i create files within that project?
[05:17:27] <rcjsuen> gh0st3r: Well, there's a File menu, with a New menu item in it, for you to make new files.
[05:17:43] <gh0st3r> rcjsuen, oh... so its just like a normal thing, not some special subversion thing?
[05:17:54] <rcjsuen> well, making files is one thing
[05:17:59] <rcjsuen> adding them to SVN is a different story
[05:19:18] <gh0st3r> i see... im guessing Team > Commit?
[05:20:34] <gh0st3r> thanks rcjsuen and deSilva
[05:20:44] <neekers> woohoo! just created my first installer... :)
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[06:28:14] <level09> I'm unable to add FTP to my eclipse pdt , it says something about conflict
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[08:27:54] <multiHYP> good morning
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[09:00:13] <multiHYP> if there is any expert on openGL in SWT present, please give me a reply.
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[09:11:28] <adac> How can I restore the default view?
[09:15:57] <multiHYP> Window>Reset Perspective
[09:16:17] <multiHYP> for each part, i.e. Java Browsing, Java Debugging, CVS, SVN, PDT, ...
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[09:26:26] <adac> multiHYP, thx!!
[09:26:31] <multiHYP> np
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[10:12:26] <multiHYP> 1 more day to end 2009
[10:25:37] <multiHYP>  /me lunch time
[10:25:44] * multiHYP lunch time
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[13:48:55] <DukeDave> Hey all, so I haven't used Eclipse in a while. I just grabbed the latest release, " Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers (189 MB)  " for Windows Vista. Eclipse is running fine and I got a "hello world" to execute. However I've installed a couple of plugins ("viPlugin" and "eclipseME") but neither have a section in the preferences window, they *appear* to be installed correctly. Is this a known issue? :|
[13:50:35] <DukeDave> Additional trivia: On the "Eclipse Installation Details" window they are both listed on the "Installed Software" tab, but do not appear on the "Plug-ins" tab.
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[13:56:05] <FauxFaux> Both of those plugins are rather out of date, iirc.
[14:02:59] <DukeDave> FauxFaux, Hmm, that's the worst case I was fearing
[14:03:48] <FauxFaux> viPlugin is obviously only used by mentally unwell people, and ME asks you to install some Sun Wireless Toolkit which is entirely unsupported (at least, last time I looked).
[14:04:20] <DukeDave> Hmm, "For EclipseME version 1.6.2 and later, Eclipse 3.2 is required."
[14:04:47] <DukeDave> I'm trying to find a sane version number in Eclipse, to no avail :|
[14:05:02] <DukeDave> Ah, 3.5.1
[14:05:20] <DukeDave> FauxFaux, is there a nice alternative to viPlugin you know of?
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[14:05:55] <DukeDave> I found vimPlugin, but it started talking about connecting to a real instance of Vim and I got scared :)
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[14:08:00] <FauxFaux> DukeDave: Sorry, no.
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[14:08:15] <amine> hey
[14:08:38] <amine> is it possible to edit over ftp or ssh?
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[14:13:25] <amine> hey rcjsuen
[14:13:51] <rcjsuen> hi
[14:14:05] <amine> out of curiousity, are you using bell's new fiber optic lines?
[14:14:49] <rcjsuen> No idea.
[14:15:09] <amine> ah ok
[14:15:58] <FauxFaux> amine: RSE supports it for some things.
[14:16:22] <DukeDave> Thanks for your help FauxFaux, I'm going to try reverting to an older version of Eclipse
[14:16:48] <FauxFaux> /o\
[14:20:56] <amine> FauxFaux: well as long as it can create, delete, modify and rename files I'm good
[14:24:55] <amine> plugins are installed in the application, not workspace, right?
[14:24:59] <amine> application directory*
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[14:38:52] <amine> FauxFaux: RSE might just work out, thanks
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[15:11:37] <equivoc> hello everyone
[15:13:21] <equivoc> i'm trying to CVS export a project to a remote server via ssh, but i can't find the option for that. i had that feature in a previous installation, but don't remember the name. anybody knows?
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[15:31:01] <cue8chalk> hey, what's up
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[15:32:23] <cue8chalk> i have a weird issue that i'm trying to troubleshoot. i run the latest stable version of eclipse on ubuntu and i currently run my workspace from a samba share. it works, but it's quirky. when i save files it keeps telling me the file has changed and prompts me to reload
[15:32:44] <cue8chalk> so i figured i'd try mounting an sshfs and loading the workspace from there instead
[15:33:13] <cue8chalk> but when i do that, eclipse seems to ignore my workspace completely. it loads the default eclipse settings and none of my projects are present. i'm not really sure why
[15:33:36] <cue8chalk> i thought maybe i couldn't access .metadata from the sshfs, but when i go into the mounted folder, i don't see any difference
[15:33:53] <cue8chalk> is there any reason why it would work from smbfs/cifs and not sshfs?
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[16:42:43] <rcjsuen> mani123: /msg nickserv help
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[18:08:23] <cmihai> Hi. I'm trying to configure spell checking support for Eclipse (eclipse-cpp-galileo-SR1). I have the "Enable spell checking" checkbox, but under all I have is "The selected spelling engine does not exist". Is this some kind of dependency on Java stuff?
[18:08:56] <cmihai> If so, any idea what I need to get this working? I would like Eclipse to spell check comments and code documentation.
[18:10:39] <cmihai> I assume I'm missing one of the plugins that has the engine (possibly present in other eclipse bundles), just not sure which.
[18:11:30] <cmihai> I would like to avoid installing all the Java / SOA stuff I don't need in this version, and use separate versions for that, as it tends to mess up the plugin updates later on.
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[18:15:14] <cmihai> Guess I'll install WDT & XML, I might just need those anyway and see what happens.
[18:16:27] <NoobFukaire> Are you using sun java? Are you using an official release of Eclipse?
[18:16:48] <NoobFukaire> the spell check thing sounds familiar, I want to say it had something to do with gcj but I can't remember
[18:18:46] <cmihai> Yeah, I'm using the latest Sun JDK, and an official release (C++ version).
[18:19:03] <cmihai> I fixed it by installing Eclipse Web Development Tools and XML/JavaScript.
[18:19:10] <NoobFukaire> ah, cool
[18:19:46] <cmihai> C++ ver was missing depends I guess. I don't like installing every plugin because it breaks plugin updates sooner or later.
[18:20:15] <NoobFukaire> The new eclipse releases are much better about that stuff
[18:20:38] <NoobFukaire> there's a new "package manager" for eclipse, p2
[18:21:34] <cmihai> Neat.
[18:21:39] <cmihai> Not sure it's working though...
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[18:23:21] <cmihai> Isn't it supposed to look in comments and such?
[18:23:25] <callerten> Is there a way to force editors to keep a few lines visible at the top/bottom above/below the cursor position to provide adequate context at all times?
[18:24:00] <NoobFukaire> spell check? yes I believe it should
[18:26:01] <cmihai> Ah, OK, I see, it only seems to work for my C files, but not for my Perl.
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[18:26:15] <cmihai> I suppose there must be a way to tell it what a comment looks like.
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[18:38:32] <callerten> I just find myself with the cursor at the bottom a lot, and it's frustrating because I don't know what is coming next.
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[18:39:28] <callerten> When I read a book I can see the whole page, which is best; second best is to always give my eyes some context above/below where they are looking.
[18:40:32] <cmihai> Could be because I installed my other environments after eSpell support and when it installed now it broke them.
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[18:47:12] <ralf_e> callerten, sounds like a good idea, but I'm pretty sure there exists no such option in Eclipse there already. I checked the relevant options, nothing there. Have you seen any editor software implementing this? If you have a lot nerve, you could try to implement one yourself though. That way you would stumble upon existing code in that regard for sure :)
[18:49:11] <callerten> I haven't seen an editor do it, but almost all editors bug me by not doing it :)  You are right, I should probably just give it a try and if I get it working submit it upstream; something tells me if it's really worth having then once one editor gets it the rest will fall, just like with communism.
[18:49:13] <callerten> Thanks
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[18:50:47] <cmihai> Hm. Any idea how I could edit the eSpell config?
[18:53:18] <cmihai> I don't suppose there are any EPIC users around? :-)
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[19:00:23] <ralf_e> cmihai, http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2040093&group_id=75859&atid=545277
[19:00:31] <ralf_e> probably the perl text editor has to enable this
[19:00:32] <mheld> I'm trying to change the color of a specific piece of the editor, but I can't figure out what it's called
[19:00:45] <mheld> I've got a line private static final int INSERT_ID = Menu.FIRST;
[19:01:05] <mheld> and I click on INSERT_ID and INSERT_ID gets highlighted
[19:01:08] <mheld> what's that called?
[19:01:33] <ralf_e> cmihai, should be easy to fix if you are comfortable with Java and have the heart to make EPIC a bit better :)
[19:02:35] <d_a_carver> mheld: I believe it's mark occurrences
[19:03:46] <ralf_e> mheld, it's enabled with Toggle Mark Occurences in the toolbar, color can be configured in General > Editors > Text Editors > Annotations > Occurences
[19:04:36] <cmihai> ralf_e: awesome, thanks :-)
[19:04:36] <mheld> does eclipse need to be restarted for it to show up?
[19:05:07] <MrHacks> Error: "Widget is disposed." What does that mean?
[19:05:20] <cmihai> ralf_e: it's rather nice to have spellchecking support in a multinational project, especially when you end up seeing commits like "This other guy can't spell for shit" :P
[19:05:34] <ralf_e> mheld, no
[19:05:56] <ralf_e> for me it gets visible immediately when activating it
[19:06:42] <ralf_e> MrHacks, depends on where it happened. An SWT widget was accessed but doesn't exist anymore. If you're seeing this as a user, it's probably a programming error
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[19:08:00] <MrHacks> Well, I switched JRE libraries to something I recently installed. I'm hoping that now that this is installed, Eclipse will finally let me create a class. Otherwise, I will need to use Netbeans, which is not as good as I remembered it.
[19:09:20] <NoobFukaire> Use netbeans, it's better
[19:09:41] <MrHacks> Netbeans doesn't support Android development
[19:09:53] <NoobFukaire> It's still better, you should use it
[19:09:56] <cmihai> http://e-p-i-c.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/e-p-i-c/org.epic.spellchecker/ looks a bit dusty, heh.
[19:10:20] <rrreimer> Hi all.
[19:10:27] <rrreimer> Who's familiar with the Common Navigator Framework?
[19:10:55] <MrHacks> NoobFukaire, have the doctors ever found that tumor in your head that is making you a trememdous jerk yet?
[19:10:55] <mheld> ralf_e: what about the inital private static final int INSERT_ID = Menu.FIRST;?
[19:10:59] <mheld> initial
[19:11:07] <NoobFukaire> it's not a tumor
[19:11:12] <mheld> it works on the occurrances of INSERT_ID
[19:11:19] <mheld> but not on the initial one at the top of the class
[19:13:55] <mheld> anytime something gets assigned
[19:15:16] <mheld> eh, I'll just use another theme
[19:15:51] <mheld> thanks for the help
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[19:30:52] <rcjsuen> rrreimer: Taking apoll?
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[19:36:12] <MrHacks> Well...ecplise is crap. May as well uninstall it
[19:36:23] <MrHacks> I plan to reinstall it from source
[19:36:43] <rcjsuen> I doubt that would help.
[19:36:49] <rhk> good luck
[19:38:03] <MrHacks> It just doesn't want to work at all.
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[19:39:58] <rhk> does anyone know how to make an update site that has working categories? it seems like even when I follow all the steps, some of my categories never show up in the list. The features are there if I turn off the "sort by categories" option.
[19:40:21] <rcjsuen> MrHacks: Did you try downloading a recent mainteance build? I forgot if you did or not.
[19:40:56] <MrHacks> I downloaded it from the Fedora 12 repo
[19:41:19] <MrHacks> To which OpenJDK kept crashing. And Eclipse itself wouldn't let me start any new classes.
[19:41:28] <NoobFukaire> Is there anyway to make the SashForm "handle" 3d
[19:41:40] <rcjsuen> Are you having the problem where the buttons don't get selected but you can select them if you use the keyboard?
[19:41:44] <NoobFukaire> i.e. have a specular color to give the appearance of 3d
[19:41:55] <MrHacks> mouse and keyboard
[19:42:09] <rcjsuen> MrHacks: Did you check your logs for errors?
[19:42:10] <MrHacks> on top of that the program tends to crash
[19:42:11] <NoobFukaire> my sashforms appear "sunken" which makes it appear odd and foreign
[19:42:48] <rcjsuen> for crashes it's hard to determine the cause without VM logs
[19:43:01] <MrHacks> The error logs are always the same. It's for something I really don't have the time to fix
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[19:44:34] <MrHacks> http://pastebin.ca/1728163
[19:45:25] <rcjsuen> That looks like an internal JDT error. Did you try a download from Eclipse.org?
[19:45:37] <MrHacks> Working on that right now
[19:46:11] <MrHacks> I seldom install stuff from source. The process is "make; make-install;" somthing or other?
[19:46:48] <rcjsuen> MrHacks: For Eclipse youjust download, untar, ./eclipse, the end
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[19:47:12] <rcjsuen> Are you getting that problem with a fresh installation? Did you install ADT first?
[19:47:23] <MrHacks> ADT?
[19:47:51] <rcjsuen> The Android tooling
[19:47:55] <rcjsuen> Android Development Tools
[19:47:57] <MrHacks> No, not yet
[19:47:57] <rcjsuen> I believe it's called.
[19:48:04] <MrHacks> I'd like to
[19:48:19] <rcjsuen> Did you try using a new workspace?
[19:48:23] <MrHacks> yes
[19:48:29] <MrHacks> several times
[19:48:32] <rcjsuen> That bug is mentioned by ~244770 but it doesn't look like JDT could reproduce the problem.
[19:48:33] <Arbalest> Bug 244770 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=244770 - JDT / UI / 3.4 - PC / Windows Vista - RESOLVED / NOT_ECLIPSE / normal / - Assignee: jdt-ui-inbox - Problems occurred when invoking code from plug-in: "org.eclipse.jface".
[19:48:44] <MrHacks> even in locations where the path had no spaces in it
[19:48:46] <rcjsuen> Could be aFedora packaging problem but I haven't heard the problem.
[19:49:19] <rhk> it's probably an openjdk issue
[19:49:31] <rhk> eclipse was unstable under openjdk for me
[19:49:41] <rcjsuen> That's also possible I suppose, did not consider that.
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[19:49:45] <MrHacks> Everything eclipse is now uninstalled
[19:50:01] <rhk> until you try the download from eclipse.org under sun's jre, you won't know
[19:50:13] <MrHacks> I have jdk-1.6.0u_17 installed.
[19:50:16] <MrHacks> Eclipse woun't accept it
[19:50:30] <rcjsuen> Define "won't accept it".
[19:50:36] <MrHacks> wouldn't
[19:50:59] <rcjsuen> Right, what exactly does that mean
[19:51:01] <MrHacks> The program would crash because of something openjdk did
[19:52:36] <rcjsuen> Well, I can't really comment without the logs.
[19:54:14] <MrHacks> I can't blame you. I just want the damn thing to work
[19:55:03] <rcjsuen> Don't you have any lying around?
[19:55:27] <MrHacks> If I knew the path, I would post the log
[19:55:39] <rcjsuen> It may be in ~/
[19:55:43] <rcjsuen> or wherever your Eclipse is installed
[19:56:38] <rcjsuen> I would probably still follow rhk's suggestion and give a Sun JRE download a spin though.
[19:56:55] <MrHacks> I've got that part taken care of
[19:57:14] <MrHacks> I plan on putting eclipse in /usr/local
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[20:10:18] <MrHacks> better yet, I'll put it in /usr/lib
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[20:18:20] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[20:18:41] <nitind> ~hi
[20:18:41] <Cpudan80> I've downloaded a java project from my SVN -- and virtually every line of code in the project has errors
[20:18:41] <Arbalest> Welcome! If you have a question, just ask, or take a look at our FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ :) Try typing ~faq to see more FAQs! If you have errors or logs to show, see ~pastebin. If you have screenshots to share, see ~imagebin. If you need to describe your problem, please provide some ~info about your setup. Please be patient when waiting for a response. Thank you and enjoy your stay.
[20:18:51] <Cpudan80> It looks like the JDK isn't setup correctly?
[20:19:07] <Cpudan80> lines like String myString = "1234"; fail because String is not a defined type
[20:19:31] <Cpudan80> all the "normal" things like import java.io.* fail
[20:19:43] <Cpudan80> any idea how to fix that?
[20:21:36] <MrHacks> crap
[20:21:52] <MrHacks> I think it is time to uninstall openjdk
[20:23:19] <Cpudan80> Oh I didnt have the jdk selected
[20:23:21] <Cpudan80> weird ...
[20:24:22] <MrHacks> sorry, I wasn't talking to you
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[20:50:42] <newbie123abc> alo mundo
[20:50:44] <newbie123abc> hello world
[20:51:03] <newbie123abc> how can i hide right scroll bar?
[20:56:49] <rhk> newbie123abc: which right scroll bar? in the editor?
[20:56:57] <newbie123abc> rhk: ypu
[20:57:05] <newbie123abc> rhk: yep
[20:57:33] <newbie123abc> rhk: rules at it right side, too
[20:57:51] <newbie123abc> rhk: yellow markups...etc
[20:59:14] <rhk> I don't think you can hide the scroll bar, but the others might be in Window -> Preferences, then General -> Text Editors
[21:00:03] <rhk> although I don't see an option to disable the markers on the right side
[21:01:23] <rhk> for anyone who might be curious, the problem I mentioned earlier about my categories not showing up was because I was creating a site.xml project, instead of using a p2 category.xml file and the "Export Deployable Features" option
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[21:03:28] <b0red> hi.  How to change the BG color of the editor
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[21:06:22] <MrHacks> well...that was pointless.
[21:06:45] <MrHacks> It's offical: Fedora 12 sucks
[21:07:35] <NoobFukaire> Check out #netbeans
[21:07:38] <MrHacks> The good news is, that OpenOffice.org doesn't use openjdk-1.5.0
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[21:07:56] <MrHacks> correction openjdk-1.6.0
[21:08:45] <MrHacks> The bad news, If I remove 1.6.0, I need to remove 3.7 other packages like tomcat5 and NETBEANS
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[21:09:43] <MrHacks> you would think software developers would have their own little repo independing of the main software distributor
[21:10:04] <rhk> fedora always did have annoying dependency issues
[21:11:04] <rhk> dependency-hell
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[21:11:53] <nemo> Something odd I'm trying to figure out in my attempt to set up eclipse on my new ubuntu karmic 64 bit machine.
[21:12:20] <nemo> Everything seems to be running alright, I can generate ear files, subversive works ok...
[21:13:00] <nemo> I was missing Server->Runtime Environment->J2EE Runtime Library
[21:13:02] <nemo> so I added it
[21:13:25] <nemo> however, while it allowed me to add it, the Edit button was greyed out so I couldn't point it at the j2ee runtime I was wanting to compile against
[21:13:39] <nemo> and the little icon in the list has a red square next to it
[21:14:58] <nemo> it is as if maybe it is missing some component for setting that container up
[21:15:05] <nemo> but I can't figure out what that might be
[21:15:36] <rhk> nemo: if you hover the mouse over the red square does it show a tooltip?
[21:16:32] <nemo> nope
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[21:16:43] <nemo> rhk: no error on stderr either
[21:17:00] <liran> there is an all-in-one Eclipse with all kind of lang's ?
[21:18:24] <newbie123abc> how can i change that poor fonts editor
[21:18:25] <newbie123abc> ?
[21:18:50] <rhk> nemo: sorry, I' don't use the J2EE stuff enough to know much more
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[21:24:22] <nemo> rhk: I tried installing another one as an experiment...
[21:24:23] <nemo>   Missing requirement: Sun Application Servers and GlassFish Servers support 1.0.51 (com.sun.enterprise.jst.server.sunappsrv 1.0.51) requires 'bundle org.eclipse.jst.jee.web 1.0.100' but it could not be found
[21:24:27] <nemo> that doesn't sound good
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[21:24:57] <rhk> nemo: is this from the galileo update site?
[21:24:58] <nemo> I wonder what normally provides that
[21:25:08] <nemo> rhk: there was an "add additional plugins" option
[21:25:15] <nemo> rhk: btw. the gallileo site is super-annoying
[21:25:31] <nemo> there is NO explanation on how to add the general galileo download URL to software update
[21:25:40] <nemo> I couldn't remember what it was and settled for adding a bunch of subsites
[21:25:52] <nemo> I only extrapolated the pattern from a ganymede URL I found today
[21:26:23] <liran> there is an all-in-one Eclipse with all kind of lang's ?
[21:27:16] <rhk> liran: not that I'm aware of, but one of the other providers might have something like that (I've used Pulse before, it was pretty good)
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[21:28:20] <rhk> nemo: what download did you originally start with?
[21:28:46] <nemo> WTP - http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/updates/
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[21:29:05] <nemo> rhk: I just tried reinstalling
[21:29:05] <nemo> "Eclipse Java EE Developer Tools" will be ignored because it is already installed.
[21:29:06] <rhk> nemo: no, I mean what eclipse zip file did you start from?
[21:29:08] <nemo> "Eclipse Web Developer Tools" will be ignored because it is already installed.
[21:29:16] <nemo> rhk: heh. I'm using the ubuntu package.
[21:29:25] <nemo> rhk: was what I was using before, too, just under 9.04
[21:29:53] <rhk> nemo: ahh. you'll need to ask the ubuntu people how to install stuff then. my experience was that it's not easy.
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[21:30:15] <rhk> nemo: so I downloaded the eclipse sdk and started from that
[21:30:20] <nemo> rhk: installing stuff works fine now
[21:30:26] <nemo> rhk: using the eclipse built in plugin installation
[21:30:27] <rhk> nemo: (I'm on ubuntu 9.10 too)
[21:30:48] <nemo> what's annoying me is *Eclipse* not making it clear what bundles / URLS to use to add the appropriate plugins
[21:31:01] <nemo> and I can't seem to try a reinstall either, just in case I added the wrong url.
[21:31:38] <rhk> nemo: my experience is that you can install most things you might need from the galileo site
[21:31:53] <nemo> ... once you figure out the URL sure :-p
[21:32:03] <nemo> it is not obvious from the splash page with its big pretty buttons
[21:32:13] <rhk> yeah, it's "built-in" when you install one of the zip files
[21:33:32] <nemo> which is not supposed to be necessary :-p
[21:33:57] <nemo> ah. uninstall is hidden under Help->About Eclipse->Installation Details
[21:34:58] <nemo> anyway, reinstalling using the main gallileo URL
[21:35:10] <rhk> that should help
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[21:36:10] <nemo> didn't help the issue described originally :-/
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[21:38:00] <nemo> 'bundle org.eclipse.jst.server.generic.core 0.0.0' but it could not be found
[21:38:04] <nemo> ah. that sounds important
[21:38:16] <nemo> rhk: you know, it'd help if eclipse mentioned this instead of showing a red square :-p
[21:38:44] <rhk> nemo: file a bug report.
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[21:43:49] <nemo> yay. that did it
[21:43:52] <nemo> was missing the JST stuff
[21:43:57] <nemo> which I got off the Galileo link
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[21:46:26] <rcjsuen> liran: No, there isn't. There are a lot of programming languages, it would be very difficult to encompass them all.
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[22:09:13] <ktlr> is there any one who cant use the update system at now ? because i click anyhow a Next or Install buttons, then there is no happen anything. no exception etc..
[22:09:34] <rcjsuen> ktlr: Does the button look depressed?
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[22:10:58] <ktlr> rcjsuen, yes, then when i out the mouse of button, then the button goes normally, after then i just move mouse on the button just move (no clicked) the button looks like pressed it again
[22:11:10] <rcjsuen> ktlr: Are you on Linux?
[22:11:28] <ktlr> yes
[22:11:34] <rrreimer> re
[22:11:37] <rcjsuen> ktlr: Did you try using the keyboard instead of the mouse?
[22:11:55] <rrreimer> where can I file an enhancement request?
[22:11:57] <ktlr> not yet
[22:12:15] <ktlr> presently try it
[22:12:35] <rcjsuen> ~tell rrreimer about bugzilla
[22:12:35] <Arbalest> rrreimer: Eclipse Bugzilla - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/
[22:14:08] <ktlr> rcjsuen, i dont understand it, has been normally worked
[22:14:18] <rcjsuen> ktlr: You mean the keyboard works?
[22:14:18] <ktlr> it
[22:14:37] <ktlr> i look at the moment
[22:14:57] <ktlr> please wait a minute
[22:15:19] <ktlr> hmm
[22:15:20] <ktlr> well
[22:15:32] <ktlr> yes it is work with keyboard
[22:16:09] <rcjsuen> ktlr: See FAQ in channel topic then.
[22:17:32] <ktlr> http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ  this one ?
[22:18:16] <rcjsuen> Yes, that one.
[22:20:03] <ktlr> Thank you very much. i didnt know about the export
[22:35:09] <rcjsuen> ktlr: Okilydokily. Best of luck with whatever you're working on.
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[22:36:50] <ktlr> thx
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[22:54:30] <rhk> must be quittin' time
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[23:01:58] <multiHYP> night all
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